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Old 09-05-2007, 03:41 AM   #1
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Here's my sweet project! It's a violin-looking-semi-hollow-hard tail-HH solid body electric.

Specs:
-Walnut carved top
-Hard Ash Body
-Maple Neck
-Ebony fretboard
-book matched (4 times) cocobolo veneer for headstock that has some sexy white sapling to contrast with the very dark old wood.

-Two Humbuckers (thinking about duncans)
-3 rotary switches that allow me 84 different pickup combinations (including phasing, parallel, series, coil splits etc!
-volumes and tones for both pickups
-24 3/4" scale length
-Gold TOM bridge
-Gold stop piece
-Gold Rotomatic tuners
-white plastic pu rings
-white binding over top, fretboard and headstock




Heres what I have so far, I'm getting there slowly. I swear, I'm spending 10x more time researching and studying than building!








I'm gonna bookmatch that cocobolo (with sapling) to make a headstock veneer!


I've done a little more, I'll get those pictures soon!

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Old 09-05-2007, 04:25 AM   #2
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looks awesome cant wait to see the rest
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:11 PM   #3
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I'm so pleased with the neck, not to brag but I didn't know rasps and sand paper could get something that smooth. And it was alot easier to round the neck than I thought it would be.


Starting the neck pocket with a forstner. Any tips on how to get glue squeeze out out of the f-hole? Or the electronics cavity for that matter?
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:05 PM   #4
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Very classy.

Itll look great when its finished.
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:14 PM   #5
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Very inspired idea, good build so far. Waiting for more!
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Old 09-07-2007, 04:58 PM   #6
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Color scheme, woods all natural. Any thoughts for good stains/oils/nitros for the walnut, ash, maple and ebony? Can I leave the ebony untreated?
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:27 PM   #7
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Yes, you should leave the ebony untreated unless it has stripes that you want to darken. If you want to darken the ebony, then there are special products from Stewart Macdonald specifically for this.

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Finishi...d_solvents.html

I can't personally reccomend anything, though, because I don't buy from them.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:07 AM   #8
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Mmmmmm, that looks fantastic!
Very classy looking. 84 pickup combos will be crazy.
And you say its a semi-hollow solid body.... Do you have any pics of the ash body routed before you put the walnut top on?
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:39 AM   #9
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Very nice! It'll look even more beautiful after you apply the finish.

Can you describe how you did the truss rod? And the hollowing of the body? Details man!

Also, as far as removing the glue from the F hole and electronics cavity, how to treat the Ebony, etc., wait for or PM Calum, Algee, or the more experienced builders for thoughtful advices.

And don't be shy about uploading more pics.

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Old 09-08-2007, 12:14 PM   #10
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WOW! that looks great. just like those violin basses The Beatles played on. Keep it up!
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:17 PM   #11
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Mmmmmm, that looks fantastic!
Very classy looking. 84 pickup combos will be crazy.
And you say its a semi-hollow solid body.... Do you have any pics of the ash body routed before you put the walnut top on?



Oh you had to ask... no... I don't. I'm seriously pissed at myself, but I kind of wanted to keep the project moving so I didn't wait till I found my camera, big mistake. Maybe someday I might take an x-ray of it, that'd be cool! Basically it's just the whole left side routed all the way up and down, a spots routed away under the horn (air tight though), and a crap load is routed for the electronics. I also routed wire channels for the pups.

And about this looking like the beatle's bass, do you really think so? Because I searched and searched for a similar guitar, and that bass was the only thing that came close, but I dont think it's that similar at all. I'm actually very very surprised to not see anything like the old school stringed instruments, because peeps are always trying to be old school. Ah well, I'm original

About posting more pics: I don't own a single tool for doing this work so I'm limited by how much time the dude whos helping me can offer usually a few hours a week


So heres the real question:

Do I carve the top with a router (the wings technique)?

or

Do I carve it with a belt sander (the stationary kind)?
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:52 PM   #12
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i carve tops with carving tools. ill try to give more detail later if your interested.
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:13 AM   #13
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absolutely, but keep in mind i have limited tools
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Old 09-09-2007, 09:51 AM   #14
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i dont know about the routing, but how are you doing 84 pickup combinations? you gotta post a wiring diagram!!
and heres the bass i meant:

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Old 09-09-2007, 01:15 PM   #15
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Its PGM700-ish also
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:50 PM   #16
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Get out of here, it's nothing like the bass

For the pup combo switching, I'm using 6 pole rotary switches and some schematics I got off http://alexplorer.net/guitar/mods/rotary.html . That website has loads of neat electronics stuff, check it out.

I also have a wiring question. I want to be able to have volume and tone controls over each pickup individually, but the nature of the wiring schematic I'm using will make it so that each 4 conductor humbucker will be wired up however I want (IE phasing, series etc.), and then output through 2 leads, ground and hot. But for phasing options, hot and ground may sometimes switch roles. So I need a volume and a tone knob for that, but I want it to be so that the pots only affect the intended pickup, unlike many gibsons. I'm thinking about having a 3 lug pot (of course) where one pup lead goes to an outside lug and stops, the other lead goes to the other lug and continues on, and the pot outputs through the center lug.

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VOLUME pickup side pot output side ----------------------o o---------- ----------------------o---------- TONE pickup side pot output side ----------------------o o---------- o | = <capacitor | ----------------------o----------
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:18 PM   #17
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Yay! F-Hole! Looks Cool
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Old 09-09-2007, 03:26 PM   #18
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I like paul gilbert's better for some reason but this is so full of class I want to screw it.
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Very nice! It'll look even more beautiful after you apply the finish.

Can you describe how you did the truss rod? And the hollowing of the body? Details man!

Also, as far as removing the glue from the F hole and electronics cavity, how to treat the Ebony, etc., wait for or PM Calum, Algee, or the more experienced builders for thoughtful advices.

And don't be shy about uploading more pics.




Truss rod:
I got a thin 10 ft board of maple, cut it down and laminated 3 pieces for the neck. Unfortunately, it wasn't quite tall enough to put on a 13 degree headstock, so I cut off an angled piece and glued it back like countless tuts show how to do. Then I took the neck, set up a table saw, and just pushed it through the table saw to make the truss rod channel.


Electronics Cavity:
A free handed diagram, a jig saw and a drum sander on a hand held drill.

Cavities:
I drew everything out on the ash like bridge, stop piece and fretboard to know where my cavities couldn't go. Then I drew out the contours I wanted the cavity to follow, and used a round over bit to cut that line into the wood. I needed 2 passes to make that groove deep enough that I could follow it with a template follower bit. Then, that idea for some reason didn't work, so I had to free hand the cavity into the ash with a router. It sucked because the cavity in one spot was a little bit wider than the base of the router so I really had to just free hand it with out the bas even supported.

I'm realizing that building a guitar for the first time is really just a learning experience. I'm spending so much more time researching and fixing mistakes from oversights, or planning out different steps in the construction process.

Good luck if youre gonna build a guitar!
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:51 AM   #20
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That looks pretty sweet!

My friend has a Kent 12 string that has a violin body, they are interesting guitars.
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