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Old 10-07-2007, 10:31 AM   #1
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Ska N00b thread:

Hopefully this will decrease the overflow of ďWhat ska bands should I listen to?Ē Thanks to neidnarb11890, element4433, and StreetLight3989 putting this all together.


Overview:
Ska started in the 50ís combining Caribbean mento and calypso with American jazz and rhythm and blues. It is characterized by a walking bass line, accented guitar, or piano rhythms on the offbeat, and in some cases, jazz-like horn riffs. In the early 1960s, ska was the dominant musical genre of Jamaica, and it was also popular with British mods. Music historians typically divide the history of ska into three periods: the original Jamaican ska scene of the 1960s, the 2 Tone ska revival that started in England in the late 1970s, and the third wave ska movement, which started in the 1980s.

Sargasm's Edit: There was a thread asking about the word "Ska" itself, so I figured I'd add a little bit of information about it. The word "Ska" is pronounced to rhyme with "spa." There are two prominent theories on the etymology of the word itself. (Nobody knows for sure which is true.) Some say it comes from the phrase "Love Skavoovie," which was a greeting used in Jamaica at the time, notably by Cluet Johnson who was an early Ska bassist. Another theory is that "ska, ska, ska, ska" was an onomatopoetic way people would describe the syncopated rhythm of the music.

First wave/Creation
The people of Jamaica began buying radioís and listening to American jazz, blues, and R&B in the 40ís. They began creating their own forms of these genreís, playing chopped guitar beat, walking bass line, jazz horns, piano, and drums in 4/4 time. Ska was immediately popular in Jamaica. It was after all Jamiaca's first indiginous original music sound.


Bands:
Laurel Aitken
Prince Buster
Desmond Dekker
Clement "Coxsone" Dodd
Don Drummond
The Ethiopians
Justin Hinds
Judge Dread
Byron Lee & the Dragonaires
The Melodians
Jackie Opel
Millie Small
Derrick Morgan
Eric "Monty" Morris
The Paragons
Lee "Scratch" Perry
The Pioneers
Duke Reid
Ernest Ranglin
Rico Rodriguez
The Skatalites
Symarip
Toots and the Maytals
The Wailers



Second Waves/Two Tone:
In the late 70ís musicans in Britain began mixing Jamaican ska with the the speed and aggression of punk. The lyrics were about racial harmony when racail tensions were high in England. 2 tone didnít last long though. Ska shows attrached two groups of people; The Skinheads and Rude Boys. Skinheads were/are working class people, while Rude Boys were rich and wore fancy clothes. There were constant fights between these to groups and clubs stopped booking ska bands.

Bands:
Bad Manners
The Beat (also known as The English Beat)
The Bodysnatchers
Madness
The Selecter
The Specials (known at some points as The Special AKA)
Special Beat


3rd Wave:
In the 80ís bands influenced by influenced by 2 tone began to form. Third wave ska music often features brass instruments and a heavily-accented offbeat; a characteristic that was also prevalent in the second wave of ska. Southern California was the central hotspot for third wave ska, although the genre has spread around the globe. Bands began combing the tradition ska sound with pop punk. Several third wave ska bands have played in a traditional 1960s style though. Third wave ska reached the peak of its commercial success between 1995 and 1998.

Bands:
The Allstonians
The Aquabats
Area-7
Athena
Big D and the Kids Table
Blue Meanies
The Bruce Lee Band
Buck-O-Nine
The Busters
Capdown
Catch 22
The Chinkees
Critical Mass
Dance Hall Crashers
Five Iron Frenzy
Goldfinger
Hepcat
The Insyderz
Johnny Socko
King Django
King Prawn
Leningrad
Less Than Jake
Let's Go Bowling
Mad Caddies
Mephiskapheles
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Mustard Plug
No Doubt
The O.C. Supertones
The Pietasters
The Planet Smashers
Reel Big Fish
Ruder Than You
Save Ferris
The Scofflaws
Ska-P
Skankin' Pickle
Slightly Stoopid
The Slackers
spunge
Streetlight Manifesto
Suburban Rhythm
The Toasters
The Uptones



Third Wave Sub Genre - Ska Punk/Ska-Core:
Ska punk combines punk and ska, ska-core combines ska with hardcore. Ska punk is characterised by faster tempos, guitar distortion, onbeat punk-style interludes (usually the chorus), and nasal, gruff, or shouted vocals. The more ska-influenced style of ska punk features a more developed instrumentation and a cleaner vocal and musical sound. The common instrumentation includes guitar, bass guitar, drums, saxophones, trombones, trumpets and/or other brass instruments, and sometimes an organ.

Bands:
Operation Ivy
Choking Victim
Link 80
Against All Authority
Hub City Stompers
Citizen Fish
Common Rider
Suicide Machines
Voodoo Glow Skulls
Fishbone




Links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ska
http://www.potentbrew.com/skaregdu.html
http://www.bluejuice.org.au/subpage12.html
http://web.fccj.edu/~ivanhoof/ska/
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~dab/ska.html
http://www.reggaemovement.com/History/historyska.htm
http://www.superskank.co.uk/ska_history.html
http://www.skasummit.com/
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Old 10-07-2007, 10:42 AM   #2
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nice, any chance you guys can replace my history teacher haha i didnt know some of this stuff, pretty interesting ^_^
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Old 10-07-2007, 03:11 PM   #3
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Nice, I'd like to see a nice list of ska bands separated from the punk list like I asked for a year and a half ago =P
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:42 PM   #4
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Well unless you want to sort through hundreds of bands and make a seperate ska list, then go ahead. The purpose of this thread is to give a brief introduction as to what ska is for n00bs.
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Old 10-07-2007, 05:49 PM   #5
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OK here's the rest

Justin Hinds
Judge Dread
Byron Lee & the Dragonaires
The Melodians
Jackie Opel
Millie Small
Derrick Morgan
Eric "Monty" Morris
The Paragons
Lee "Scratch" Perry
The Pioneers
Duke Reid
Ernest Ranglin
Rico Rodriguez
The Skatalites
Symarip
Toots and the Maytals
The Wailers

Second Waves/Two Tone
In the late 70ís musicans in Britain began mixing Jamaican ska with the the speed and aggression of punk. The lyrics were about racial harmony when racail tensions were high in England. 2 tone didnít last long though. Ska shows attrached two groups of people; The Skinheads and Rude Boys. Skinheads were/are working class people, while Rude Boys were rich and wore fancy clothes. There were constant fights between these to groups and clubs stopped booking ska bands.

Bad Manners
The Beat (also known as The English Beat)
The Bodysnatchers
Madness
The Selecter
The Specials (known at some points as The Special AKA)
Special Beat

Ska punk/ Ska-core
Ska punk combines punk and ska, ska-core combines ska with hardcore. Ska punk is characterised by faster tempos, guitar distortion, onbeat punk-style interludes (usually the chorus), and nasal, gruff, or shouted vocals. The more ska-influenced style of ska punk features a more developed instrumentation and a cleaner vocal and musical sound. The common instrumentation includes guitar, bass guitar, drums, saxophones, trombones, trumpets and/or other brass instruments, and sometimes an organ.
Operation Ivy
Choking Victim
Link 80
Against All Authority
Hub City Stompers
Citizen Fish
Common Rider
Suicide Machines
Voodoo Glow Skulls
Fishbone


3rd Wave
In the 80ís bands influenced by influenced by 2 tone began to form. Third wave ska music often features brass instruments and a heavily-accented offbeat; a characteristic that was also prevalent in the second wave of ska. Southern California was the central hotspot for third wave ska, although the genre has spread around the globe. Bands began combing the tradition ska sound with pop punk. Several third wave ska bands have played in a traditional 1960s style though. Third wave ska reached the peak of its commercial success between 1995 and 1998.
The Allstonians
The Aquabats
Area-7
Athena
Big D and the Kids Table
Blue Meanies
The Bruce Lee Band
Buck-O-Nine
The Busters
Capdown
Catch 22
The Chinkees
Critical Mass
Dance Hall Crashers
Five Iron Frenzy
Goldfinger
Hepcat
The Insyderz
Johnny Socko
King Django
King Prawn
Leningrad
Less Than Jake
Let's Go Bowling
Mad Caddies
Mephiskapheles
The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Mustard Plug
No Doubt
The O.C. Supertones
The Pietasters
The Planet Smashers
Reel Big Fish
Ruder Than You
Save Ferris
The Scofflaws
Ska-P
Skankin' Pickle
Slightly Stoopid
The Slackers
spunge
Streetlight Manifesto
Suburban Rhythm
The Toasters
The Uptones
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i kinda wish we all had a penis and vagina instead of buttholes

i mean no offense to buttholes and poop or anything

Rest in Peace, Troy Davis and Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis and Eric Garner and Mike Brown

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Old 10-07-2007, 06:11 PM   #7
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Can you put the links in the first post Christina?


BTW thanks for letting us do this
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:17 PM   #8
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Alright, all editted together!

No, thank you for writing all that stuff up. Whenever you guys wanna throw stuff like this together, don't be scared to ask me. As long as it's going to encourage discussion or educate someone about punk/ska, I will always be cool with it.
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Well unless you want to sort through hundreds of bands and make a seperate ska list, then go ahead. The purpose of this thread is to give a brief introduction as to what ska is for n00bs.


I was kidding

I see there is a nice list now. I like it.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:23 PM   #10
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^Joey I was going to ask for your input last night but, you left the chat too soon.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:38 PM   #11
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Nice work element. It took us so long to think of ska punk.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:53 PM   #12
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i like it...
im just starting to get more into ska
and i needed some stuff to check out
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i like it...
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Good, thats what this thread is about. Most people will recommend two tone and fist wave.
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so far i dont really have any 1st or 2nd wave stuff, mostly 3rd wave and ska-core
so im deffinetly gonna start checking some of these bands out
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Cool. I recommend The Specials, The English Beat, The Slackers, and The Skatalites
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Looks pretty good. Those "wAt R sUm GuD sKa BaNdS" threads are annoying.
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Nice work, guys. *-) I like it, it sums everything up very nicely.



By the way, who would you d00dz say was the first third-wave band? The Dance Hall Crashers released their first record in '89, making them the oldest band I listen to that has that third-wave "silly ska" sound. As far as I know, DHC predates Mustard Plug, Reel Big Fish, Big D, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.

So who kicked off the whole thing?
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Nice work, guys. *-) I like it, it sums everything up very nicely.



By the way, who would you d00dz say was the first third-wave band? The Dance Hall Crashers released their first record in '89, making them the oldest band I listen to that has that third-wave "silly ska" sound. As far as I know, DHC predates Mustard Plug, Reel Big Fish, Big D, the Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.

So who kicked off the whole thing?


The Toasters, they started in 81'.

They have a two tone sound but they ARE third wave ska.
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The Toasters, they started in 81'.

They have a two tone sound but they ARE third wave ska.
Joey's right its The Toasters
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