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Old 11-28-2007, 10:33 PM   #81
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Could the 2nd chord be F#11b13 ??
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:33 AM   #82
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Nah, think of it as being closely related to the first chord....
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:18 AM   #83
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Can someone explain me why the Bb trumpet's G sounds like an F??

I guessed it would be an A because Bb's sixth is G and C's sixth is A... and a piano is tuned in C!


Hurlz, a colleague of mine plays the trumpet, this is the only reason i know, but it would seem that Brass instruments (or just trumpet?) are most commonly of the Bb variety.
This means that if you play a C then the actual note in concert pitch is a whole tone lower. Hence "Bb trumpet" which is relative to concert C.

I think the sheet music is usually written to compensate for this.

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Old 11-29-2007, 11:13 AM   #84
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I never got why they do that, until just now (and only shakily). Am I right in thinking of it as a guitarist playing in an alternative tuning (D, here), so that if you play a C note/chord shape as it would be in E standard, it comes out as the new tone (Bb) instead?
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:13 PM   #85
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a Bb trumpet is tuned to Bb forever, it is not an alternate tuning...

anyway.

if we are naming the 2nd chord close to the 1st, then i will say C#m6/b9

i dont know if that exists though.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:19 PM   #86
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Yep, that's what I wanted
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:56 PM   #87
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name this person who cameos on my jam 3 entry-
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:27 PM   #88
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:40 AM   #89
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:34 PM   #90
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New chord?
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:03 AM   #91
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Old 12-03-2007, 05:56 AM   #92
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Sorry, but I'm only really just learning advanced stuff but must you use the lowest note as the chord. E.g with the last set of chords could it actually be A#dim+11 and A#dim+b11
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:11 AM   #93
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you dont always have to use the lowest tone, but in a situation like that i dont see any reason not to.
Inversions will mainly be implied within a melodic progression, whereas in the situation where we are just naming chords for the fun of it, there is nothing to imply that the chord is, in this case, diminished.
It is more often than not at the discretion of the poster.

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----------4---6-- --4---6---6---6-- --6---6---4---6-- --4---6---6---8-- --6---8---4---6-- --4---6----------
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:18 PM   #94
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Absus, Bb-7, Db7, Bbsus4?
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Old 12-03-2007, 04:46 PM   #95
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you dont always have to use the lowest tone, but in a situation like that i dont see any reason not to.
Inversions will mainly be implied within a melodic progression, whereas in the situation where we are just naming chords for the fun of it, there is nothing to imply that the chord is, in this case, diminished.
It is more often than not at the discretion of the poster.

Anyways, on with the game-

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----------4---6-- --4---6---6---6-- --6---6---4---6-- --4---6---6---8-- --6---8---4---6-- --4---6----------


Ab7sus4 (Absus)
Bbm7 (Bb-7)
Db7
Bbm add11/Eb

Wouldn't Bbsus4 be comprised of Bb, Eb and Db? The last chord has Eb, Bb, Db and F, unless I'm totally incorrect.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:07 PM   #96
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i was looking for a different 4th chord.

they are all taken in root position.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:54 AM   #97
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Urm. Eb7sus2?

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Ab7sus4 (Absus)
Wouldn't Bbsus4 be comprised of Bb, Eb and Db? The last chord has Eb, Bb, Db and F, unless I'm totally incorrect.

I don't think i was thinking when I wrote it. I should have said Bbmin add11.

Bbsus4 would be:
1 4 5 = Bb Eb F. The Db would be the minor third.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:32 AM   #98
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yeah, i guess thats right.
i was looking for Eb9, but the lack of third obviously makes it more ambiguous than i appreciated.
sorry about that.

I was trying to show how common barre shapes create different chords with the root on the 6th and 5th string respectively... ideally, i should have made it diatonic, but it didnt seem feasible.

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I'm buried in coursework at the moment so i haven't really the time. Sorry guys.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:51 PM   #100
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I'm buried in coursework at the moment so i haven't really the time. Sorry guys.
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Yeh i here you A levels suck...

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E 7 7 5 B 1 7 5 5 G 2 7 5 5 D 1 5 5 A 2 E


And the last chord is a nice rootless one
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