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Old 01-25-2008, 01:57 PM   #21
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I have an old Kramer knocking around. I painted it for an art project, and now it just needs assembling. Got a Bill Lawrence to shove in the bridge and some Floyd Rose to go on it. FR-II I think, even though it doesn't say it anywhere on it, but it'll do. Once it's assembled I'tll have cost me like 30 in total
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Old 01-25-2008, 02:38 PM   #22
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I like Kramers but for 80's sound I like a Les Paul better because my favorite 80's players mostly used Gibson.

The amps most big players of the 80s used were Marshalls. Most of the bigger players used plexi series Marshalls and the older models. The JMP series was big as well.

There are a lot of different 800 series models. The one thing most people used was a Boss overdrive (not distortion) pedal to drive the amp.

The piece everyone wanted back then was the MP-1 by ADA. It was a tube preamp that a lot of the bigger players used. The other units that were popular were the Alesis Quadraverb and the Yamaha SPX-90. These were really studio units but suited the guitar tones of the time. Eventide processors were very expensive but were pretty popular.

As time went on the later 80's players really preferred Soldanos and Metaltronix amps. The former are still popular. The latter were designed by amp guru Lee Jackson and were pretty amazing. Both Lee and Mike (Soldano) started out as guys that worked on Marshalls.

Some other processors that were big were the Digitech GSP-21 & Twin Tube. These came with cool footswitches and presets by awesome players (KK Downing, Bruce Kulick, etc...).

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Old 01-25-2008, 05:09 PM   #23
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Going back to Richie actually - a Marshall JCM800 head, and any generic old (the older the better) Fender cab. Gives the most gorgeous tone. For hard rock, just turn everything up all the way to 10 and you're good to go, basically. For metal, it helps to have an additional artificial distortion pedal too, but keep it on a pretty light setting.


Would a JCM800 combo work? Head+Cab is a bit much for just my bedroom ^_^

What do you use?

I mean on their 1995 tour he was using Fender amps and getting so much distortion, don't know how he does it :\

I know he uses a DS1 but they get flamed on these forums.
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Old 01-25-2008, 05:36 PM   #24
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Be careful using an old Fender cabinet with a JCM 800 if it has original speakers. Marshalls run a lot louder then Fenders and if you have a 100 watt model it could be bad for it.
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:22 PM   #25
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Quick question: How versatile are these guitars?
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:40 PM   #26
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Big Kramer fan here, I've got 4. A 1985 Baretta Reissue, 2 1984 Pacer Imperials, and a 1985 Pacer Imperial that I'm putting back together.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:45 PM   #27
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Quick question: How versatile are these guitars?


To prove these were versitile these are the folks I could THINK OF that played these

Eddie Van Halen (VH)
Mark Kendall (Great White)
Elliot Easton (CCR, The Cars)
Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi, Heather Locklear)
John Stamos (The Beach Boys)
Erik Turner (Warrant)
George Lynch
Richie Sambora
Steve Stevens
Gene Simmons
Joe Satriani
John Bon Jovi
Sam Kinnison
Steve Vai
Dweezil Zappa
Rick Neilson
Elliott Easton

Buck Dharma
Vivian Campbell
Peter Frampton
Scotty Hill
Stanley Jordan

Howard Leese
Ron Wood
Kasim Sulton (Joan Jett)
Paul Dean
Reb Beach
Brad Gillis

Jeff Watson
Mark Miller (Sawyer Brown)
Nancy Wilson
Dave Hope (Kansas)
Jimi Bell
Rachel Bolan
Benji King (Scandal)
Billy Squier
Tim Bogert
Alex Belov
Richie Scarlet
Steve Buslowe (Meatloaf)
Peter Briquette
Eric Bloom BOC
Eric Britingham
Jeff Labar
Jan Ianenkov
Joan Jett
Chris DeGarmo
Frank Carillo
Scotty Hill (Skid Row)
Michael Lardi (Great White)
Billy Childs
Ricky Byrd
Trevor Bolder
Mick Ronson
Eddie Ojeda (Twisted Sister)
Glen Burtnick
Randy Jackson (Zebra)
Dave Amati
Bobby Bandiera
Adam Bomb
Gerald Carboy
Larry Hansen
Michael Fath

Jay Jay French
Cain Roberts (Alice Cooper)
Liz Chizm
Justin Clayton
Falicia Collins
Mick Mars
Thaddeus Castanis
Jeff Golub
Kenny Dubman
Barry Dunaway
Marshal Grant
Ray Moulton (Billy Cobham)
Rick Defonzo
Randy Dorman
Bernard Edwards
Ian Hill (Judas Priest)
Doug Wimbish (Rolling Stones)
Lenny Colton
Joe Franco
Rick Harper
Julian Lennon
Jerry Hensley (Johnny Cash)
Lol Creme
Steve Lynch
Keith Mack (Scandal)
Scott Metaxas (Prophet)
Tracii Guns (Guns & Roses)
Andy Timmons
Ted Nugent
Duff McKagan
Carmine Rojas
Robert Parissi (Wild Cherry)
Don Kieselbach
Dave Kiswiney
Mark Mendoza (Blackfoot)
Nile Rogers
Chuck Jacobs Kenny Rogers
Nick Moroch (Lenny White)
Hank Williams, Jr.
Rick Pierce (Q5)
T. M. Stevens
Derek Holt (Climax Blues)
Randy Rand
(Autograph)
Paul Pesco (Madonna
Keith Richards
Dee Snider
Jimmy Ripp (Yoko Ono)
Joe Perry (Aerosmith)
Dennis Pepa (Death Angel)
loyd Rose
Nancy Wilson (Heart)
Michael Ray (Wendy O)
Michael Rutherford
Snake Sabo (Skid Row)
Derek St. Holmes ( Nugent)
Chris Oliva (Savatage)
Kim Simmonds (Savoy Brown)
John Siegler (Roger Daltrey)
Phil Sousan (Billy Idol)
Nikki Sixx (Motley Crue)
Steven Van Zandt
Bob Wootton (Johnny Cash)
Keith Scott (Bryan Adams).
Peter Sears (Starship)
Alex Such (Bon Jovi)
Leslie West
Wayne Parker (Glass Tiger)
Greg Lake
Jon Butcher
Dave Meneketti (YNT)
Gary Talent
Michael Wilton (Queensryche)

etc...

Tom Anderson was their head designer and the Kramer Elliot Easton looks a heck of a lot like a TA



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Old 01-25-2008, 09:05 PM   #28
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Old 01-25-2008, 09:42 PM   #29
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i just got a second hand karmer striker, its a lovely guitar, but i restringing it today and it was a bloody nightmare, can any of you offer tips on restringing them?
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:05 PM   #30
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Would a JCM800 combo work? Head+Cab is a bit much for just my bedroom ^_^

What do you use?

I mean on their 1995 tour he was using Fender amps and getting so much distortion, don't know how he does it :\

I know he uses a DS1 but they get flamed on these forums.
For the '95 These Days tour (the one that is on the 'Live From London' video/DVD, aka Best. Guitar solos. EVAH), it did come down to the DS-1, as far as I can tell. I used one with some small Fender combo amp some time back and it came pretty close tonally, so I figure that's what it is on that tour; Fender amp (any of them; in my experience, most Fender amps and cabs all sound the same, it's the preamps and heads that make all the difference with Fender) and a DS-1 pedal, job done.

Of course it helps if you have the same pickups as him too. Off the top of my head I don't remember the exact pickups he was using on that tour (I know it wasn't actually the same as the ones in his signature Strat back then), but they were really very hot, or at least the bridge humbucker was. My Jersey Star's stock pickups aren't actually quite hot enough to get the '95 tone.


And this may sound repetitive, but for something that can comfortably fit in a bedroom? Again, just go right to Fender, and have a nice distortion pedal on-hand (not overdrive; he used overdrive when using his '59 Les Paul on the 95 tour, but when he was using the strat and double neck, it was distortion, and throughout the earlier days, he used distortion exclusively; for the newest albums though, I'm pretty sure it's overdrive for everything). Fender do a truckload of decent combo amps, the more you pay the nicer they get, just take your pick based on what your price limit is - you can't really go wrong.


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Old 01-26-2008, 12:07 AM   #31
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Would a JCM800 combo work? Head+Cab is a bit much for just my bedroom ^_^

What do you use?

I mean on their 1995 tour he was using Fender amps and getting so much distortion, don't know how he does it :\

I know he uses a DS1 but they get flamed on these forums.


A Boss DS-1 is a good pedal. It pretty much hasn't changed since it first came out. I used to like it, then hated it and now like it The problem I found is through a solid state amp it sounds like crap which is why I think maybe it gets a bad wrap here. Most try it on a solid state amp and go meh dont like it. Through a tube amp though thats another story, you can get many tones out of it. I guess that would be the biggest difference.
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:49 AM   #32
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Does anybody know if a Pacer-1000 is any good? I found one in my local pawn shop for $150. Its cream colored, has chrome hardware, has a LFR, has 1 vol knob, and 1 slanted humbucker at the bridge. It looks almost new too, but I though pacers have been out of production for a while. It also has a maple neck and banana/hockey stick headstock.
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:52 AM   #33
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The problem I found is through a solid state amp it sounds like crap which is why I think maybe it gets a bad wrap here.
That's the same for everything though. SS amps never handle distortion or overdrive well except at very, very low levels, and even then they're nowhere near great. Any guitar and any pedal will always sound worse through a SS amp than a tube amp.
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Does anybody know if a Pacer-1000 is any good? I found one in my local pawn shop for $150. Its cream colored, has chrome hardware, has a LFR, has 1 vol knob, and 1 slanted humbucker at the bridge. It looks almost new too, but I though pacers have been out of production for a while. It also has a maple neck and banana/hockey stick headstock.


Check out vintagekramer.com

If I remember correctly, in the 80's the Pacers were the USA made models but theres no such thing as a Pacer-1000. Focus-1000 was an 80's Kramer made in Japan. Maybe they got the names mixed up?
Does it look something like this?


Here's a link for more info
http://www.vintagekramer.com/focus.htm

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By the way where is this pawnshop? If you don't decide to get it do they have a website address? I'll buy it or buy it off you
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^Its in Mississippi, and they don't have website address I think. I'd be surprised if they did.
I'm almost certain is said Pacer-1000. I held it and played it and all that fun stuff.
It looked like the one in the pic except it had chrome hardware. And I think a hockey stick headstock but then again those two headstocks are similar and I could have mistaked it.
And I've already checked that website.

I'm really wondering if this is a good guitar cause I have already missed out a old 80's kramer that was $100, and only needed a few things fixed up.
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I'd get it just for the fact that it looks like its a Japanese made Kramer from the 80's and $150 but thats me. Though you did give me a good idea to go and check pawn shops in my area :P Thanks
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