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Old 12-19-2014, 07:27 PM   #1
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Heavy black metal bands?

I'm looking for black metal bands that are more along the lines of death metal or classic black like Venom. Can never find any, the bands I know of just aren't heavy enough for the name black metal gets. Everyone is always talking about how extreme it is but there are never any bands other than Venom I like. Recommendations? and I know, Venom isn't extreme that's just the one I know of that I like a lot
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:32 PM   #2
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1 - Black Metal and Death Metal are different genres... so you can't have Black Metal that is Death Metal. You have Blackened Death Metal which is a cross between the two.

2 - Venom isn't "classic Black Metal" they were a Speed Metal band, just because they coined the name that doesn't make them black metal.

3 - Rec Thread.

Do you really want to listen to Black Metal at all? If you can't enjoy Transylvanian Hunger the genre might just not be for you. Black Metal has never been "heavy" fast and aggressive, abrasive and hateful yes.

Heavy. Not so much. Heavy is not the be-all-end-all of Metal.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:43 PM   #3
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:11 PM   #4
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2 - Venom isn't "classic Black Metal" they were a Speed Metal band, just because they coined the name that doesn't make them black metal.


Actually they can be considered as being among the progenitors of the genre, in the first wave category. Maybe you should consult the rec thread yourself.

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First Wave Black Metal

The first wave of Black Metal consisted of various disparate bands who took the ideas presented in Heavy Metal and Speed / Thrash Metal one step further. This marked the formation of the underground. The pioneering bands and notable works in this genre are as follows:

Bathory - s/t ~ The Return ~ Under the Sign of the Black Mark ~ Blood Fire Death
Blasphemy - Fallen Angel of Doom ~ Blood Upon the Altar
Bulldozer - The Day of Wrath
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales ~ Emperorís Return ~ To Mega Therion
Hellhammer - Satanic Rites ~ Apocalyptic Raids (1990 A.D.)
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Mercyful Fate - Melissa ~ Donít Break the Oath
N.M.E - Unholy Death
Root - ZjevenŪ / The Revelation ~ Hell Symphony
Sarcofago - INRI ~ Rotting
Sodom - Obsessed by Cruelty ~ Persecution Mania
Venom - Welcome to Hell ~ Black Metal ~ At War With Satan
Vulcano - Bloody Vengeance
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:19 PM   #5
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I'd disagree thoroughly with that.
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:24 PM   #6
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:43 PM   #7
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Venom is definitely black metal. They paved the way for speed, thrash, death, and other types of metal genres. And damn, I'm not sure if I "even want to listen to the genre" yet because I don't know many bands from the genre. By the way, I never said heavy was the be-all, end-all of metal

Thanks for the recommendations I got
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:57 PM   #8
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whoops i actually read ur OP and this is probs not what u want

u want dad metal soz cant help
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Venom is definitely black metal. They paved the way for speed, thrash, death, and other types of metal genres.


huh.
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same but im not about to be like cray cray sam cos i dont care so imma drop it
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yeah me neither, the regs can deal with this. I'm sure they got dis shit on lock.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:27 PM   #12
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If you like Venom then you should probably try Bathory, Bulldozer, Celtic Frost, and early Sodom. Evil speed metal sounds like what you're looking for, but someone mentioned Beherit and they might peak your interest along with some others from the rec list.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:33 PM   #13
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My favourite part of this thread so far is when the OP said that Venom are definitely black metal (despite sounding basically nothing like the majority of black metal) and then admitting he doesn't really know many black metal bands.

Cuz you'd think you'd want to actually listen to some black metal before pretending to know what is is. Maybe that's just me.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:44 PM   #14
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It's pretty common for most people to call Venom black metal. From them having the look of black metal to people like Sam Dunn touting them as the first ever black metal band, and them influencing a fair amount of extreme metal themselves, it's pretty understandable. Hell, even the guys in a lot of the "second wave" consider them the true black metal bands and all that.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:52 PM   #15
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They aren't prototypical OF Black Metal though, that's my point. Yes they influenced the genre, not gonna argue that, but everyone I've spoken to has called it Thrash, Speed or Heavy Metal. Listen to Venom and then Darkthrone or Summoning or Burzum and the similarities are mainly thematic, not sonic.

So if you're going into Black Metal having only really listened to Venom and assuming that Black Metal sounds like that... well it just isn't gonna work.
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:55 PM   #16
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Meh. At the end of the day, we know what kind of bands he's talking about, so we can give recommendations accordingly.



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Old 12-19-2014, 10:50 PM   #17
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How about Strapping Young Lad, though most call them extreme metal.

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Old 12-19-2014, 11:15 PM   #19
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Old 12-19-2014, 11:28 PM   #20
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Venom is definitely Black Metal.

They still suck dick though and I stand by that belief.

OP, try Ildjarn, Diocletian and Conqueror if you're not a pussy

Black Metal isn't really meant for what you are asking, though. but you seem to be wanting a first wave kind of sound, which is relatively easy to find.

Beherit and Blasphemy are good suggestions as well.
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