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Any thoughts? I know it doesn't matter. I'm not even close. I was just wondering.

Yeathatwasme

fast

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The_Crumpet

at least 50 notes per second

FallenSaint

This should clear things up.

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this isn't the pit. serious replies please or don't post.

I was thinking something like 10-12 nps would be where shred would start.. like I said, I don't know though.

restless_thrash

To the point where the noobs in the beginners forum say, "OMG something beyond a chord progression!"

Really, just until you think it's fast. Don't compare yourself to Michaelangelo batio. That makes me want to put the guitar down and cry.

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z4twenny

i wouldn't say that fast, but could be. fast enough to be quick lol, i don't know why it matters though. i've had people tell me i "shred" but i don't think i do, especially in line with what the guys on here think. i wouldn't sweat it. play what you wanna play how you wanna play it whether its fast or slow and remember its there to make the song sound good, not just go a million miles an hour.

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GuitarMunky

+1

there is no "official shred speed".

To me, music isnt about stats, its about expressing something. The statement: "look how fast I am" is incredibly immature. cliche, and boring IMO.

Ubertron

I can play those exercises you know :P

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White_Devil

It doesn't really matter two much about speed, just as long as its technical. But i would say for a simple picking run, around 10nps +

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GuitarMunky

what does that = in musical terms?

z4twenny

^ well if you break it down mathematically it works out like this

10 nps x 60 sec/min = look at me i can play fast

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Slaytanic1993

Well, I prefer to play at a slightly accelerated heartbeat (roughly 90 something bpm) when I write songs. It makes my stuff seem more soulful. If you want to write something like a jackhammer go ahead, we're not stopping you. That's why music is expression...do whatever the hell you want, if you can play like MAB...daymn (just in technicality's terms) if you can do more of a bluesy, feel-based, or a jazzy interlude even more daymn (I think emotive solos are better than shred, but whatever your slice o' pie, so be it)

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Zaphod_Beeblebr

You should just go away now, shred can be emotive; it all depends on the listener.

To be honest for me "shred" starts at about 11-12 notes per second but it doesn't start becoming technically impressive until at least 13-14 nps. However like most people have said, shred on it's own doesn't mean anything, you've got to have some sort of meaning to it or it's just showing off.

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z4twenny

^ yeah, im not saying don't, i'm just saying play what works for the song. if thats playing incredibly quick then do it. im just saying measurement by nps is irrelevent.

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Avedas

Just like people who think there's a certain set speed limit on shredding. The definition of shred is playing at a fast tempo.

Pretty much sums it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shred_guitar

bangoodcharlote

10 nps is considered pretty quick. If you can play 15, that's better. The really fast stuff is around 15-17 nps and the stupid fast stuff is 18-20 and faster.

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GuitarMunky

NPS = you can express yourself more easily ? how so?

bangoodcharlote

If you ever find yourself needing to play fast, lots of time spent practicing will allow you to play and not restrict you.

It's not that hard. Here the formula, assuming x/4 time, x being any positive integer, and the quarter note getting the beat (no compound time!)

Number of Notes to a Beat=A
Tempo=B

NPS=AB/60

So, if you want to know how fast 16th notes are at 150bpm, multiply 170 by 4 (16th notes are 4 to a beat, not 16!) and divide by 60.

4*150/60=10nps.

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