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Old 03-11-2008, 12:48 PM   #1
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John Petrucci's Tone

I love Petrucci's tone but I can't get the right sound out of my pedal and amp.
I'm pretty sure it's because of my small and sh4ty equipment.
I'm mainly looking for his Tone on Glasgow Kiss


I have VOXAD30VT as my amp, and BOSS GT-3 as an effects pedal and a Peavey Wolfgang asd a guitar.

Ok so this is my question, is it POSSIBLE to come really near his tone? Or is there no way with my equipment? I have gotten close, but not THAT close.

And if it isn't possible, what should I get rid of, and what equipment at least should I get to catch his tone?
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:52 PM   #2
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yeah, its easy to get his ton. All you need is about $20,000
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:53 PM   #3
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Old 03-11-2008, 12:54 PM   #4
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The amps he use are Mesa/Boogie stacks, so if there's a Rectifier setting on your amp or pedal, then that would get about as close as you're going to get.
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The amps he use are Mesa/Boogie stacks, so if there's a Rectifier setting on your amp or pedal, then that would get about as close as you're going to get.



Could you explain what a rectifier is?
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:13 PM   #6
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:46 PM   #7
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Nope not even close to true. Maybe for some of the solos.

But to the OP if you have a Road King and a Mark IV you shouldn't have any problem getting his tone
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Old 03-12-2008, 02:52 AM   #8
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Thats not true at all. I know some tone is in the fingers but nowhere near that statistic.

And to get his tone you would have to buy the equipment he uses. Or try and find a high gain amp with a smooth distortion and use high output pickups. And for a lot of his lead he uses the neck pickup.

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Old 03-12-2008, 03:09 AM   #9
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I wouldn't say 90% is in fingers...It does matter, but not to the point where you can't emulate another's tone with the proper gear.

Anyways, on topic. JP has seriously the most insanely good tone, and it is impossible to match it unless you've got like 50 grand to spare. Really. His setup is so ridiculously versatile, and everything is so clean and tight...You've got to have money to make that happen.

To make due with what you've got, I'd just fiddle around until I hear something I like.
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:42 AM   #10
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No, tone is in the gear. Fingers have nothing to do with it.

To the threadstarter: Good luck. A Road King or a Mark IV would be your best bet, depending on which album's tone you want.
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Old 03-12-2008, 04:48 AM   #11
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^ not true either. I would say more like 20 percent of tone comes from the fingers, and 80 percent the gear.
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John petrucci's tone is the best tone I've ever heard. But, as others labeled, you'd need to fork out a huge sum of money to get that tone.
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^ not true either. I would say more like 20 percent of tone comes from the fingers, and 80 percent the gear.


No, tone is all in the gear. Guitarist sound different because they articulate notes differently, but if you gave me Vai's gear, my tone would be exactly the same. At the most, you'll get very minor tonal difference resulting from the angle of the pick, or how far away from the bridge you're hitting the strings.
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:01 AM   #14
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So if he was playing through a Deluxe Reverb it would be 90% there? Okay
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So if he was playing through a Deluxe Reverb it would be 90% there? Okay

Precisely. if john petrucci played a squier through a squier amp it would still sound like john petrucci's tone!
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Precisely. if john petrucci played a squier through a squier amp it would still sound like john petrucci's tone!


No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't sound even remotely similar.
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No, tone is all in the gear. Guitarist sound different because they articulate notes differently, but if you gave me Vai's gear, my tone would be exactly the same. At the most, you'll get very minor tonal difference resulting from the angle of the pick, or how far away from the bridge you're hitting the strings.


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Precisely. if john petrucci played a squier through a squier amp it would still sound like john petrucci's tone!


No, you'd still know it was trooch playing because his playing is distinctive; you can tell if it's him or one of his songs because his solo style is distinctive. If he played through a Marshall it would sound like trooch because you know the way he plays, the tone would be completely different.

TS: He has a stupidly huge rig for live shows and for recording you can forget about getting that tone exactly to be honest, I would just try to find a tone that you like from your amp and stop trying to emulate other people.
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I own both the roadking and Mark IV, can't quite get his tone precisely. The fact that he used 3-4 roadkings at once, and 2 marks at once on top of about $8,000 in effects processors (3eventides+2gforce+dunlop rack wah) He's going to have a hard tone to mimic.

To get something close to his sound you're going to need a pretty snarling medium-high gain to high gain tube amp, Overdrive, and some pretty hot pickups. A peavey 6505+ stack at a local store gave me a similar metal tone to petrucci with the mids boosted. The lead tone was still quite a bit off. Petrucci's lead tone has less gain than the rhythm tone. The rhythm tone is modern channel 4 on roadking (ballsy as it gets) while the lead tone is vintage channel 3, bit sizzlier but not as overall distored, think a pushed marshall (van halen or Joe Satch) tone.

You can pick up 5150 combos, which are simlar amps, IMO, not quite as meaty as the head/cab but overall much better than the Vox, for under $700.
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http://www.mesaboogie.com/gallery_a...list.php?id=124


www.johnpetrucci.com (go to gear on the right side to view his current rig)
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