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Old 08-17-2014, 03:30 PM   #1
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The MUST HAVE pedal basics.

I am pretty new to pedals and know little about them. What are the basic, "gotta have these" pedals. I have been told that a Boss tuner and Ds-1 are great to have. Also heard great things about the tube screamer. What are some budget friendly pedals, and set ups that are versatile?
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:43 PM   #2
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Are you sure they didn't say tuner and an sd1? I agree with having a tuner and od as the basics to start with (even though I don't have a pedal tuner). After that, a delay would be next imo just cause it'll do a lot more things than other pedals, whatever. I don't think it really matters though, just go buy a pedal you like.
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:44 PM   #3
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there isn't any really, its all preference.

most how ever will have a tuner, an OD, an EQ and a noise gate of sorts
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:45 PM   #4
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I swear we just did this... So recently it might have even been on the same page of this subforum.
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Old 08-17-2014, 03:52 PM   #5
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went to your profile to see what country you're in (don't worry i'm not stalking you), since that affects prices a lot.

it depends a lot on what tones you want, and what the rest of your kit is (for example, if you have a peavey 6505 amp you probably don't need a distortion pedal, unless you just want a different type of flavour of distortion which the amp doesn't do itself).

tuner is probably the obvious one that everyone needs regardless of genre.

there are a few others that i'd say most guitar players could use, but not necessarily all.

for me i'd say an overdrive is pretty handy if you have a tube amp. personally i generally use them as boosts, so either a tubescreamer- or boss sd1-style overdrive is handy for tightening things up, boosting the mids and compressing and adding gain is useful, or a more transparent-type overdrive like a timmy, boss bd2 or something like that if I don't want to change my tone so much.

on the cheap (and this is more based on european prices) the digitech bad monkey is about the cheapest reliable ts-style pedal you can get, and the daphon eod20 is a boss sd1 clone for a bit less (though the sd1 isn't superdear either). for a bit more the ehx east river drive is a ts-type and the hardwire tube overdrive is allegedly a "better" bad monkey (i haven't tried either). for more transparent pedals the digitech screamin blues is a glorified bd2 and that's probably the cheapest reliable one of those you can get.

You have joyo and mooer and guys like that too who have tons of clones of sought-after circuits but there have been concerns about reliability and QC. Sound is good.

for distortion, a boss ds1 is a pretty standard one. Again, for a bit less, teh digitech hot head is a glorified (has an extra bass control) ds1. The ds1 wouldn't be my favourite distortion pedal, though. A lot of people hate them- I don't hate them, for certain very specific things and at very specific knob settings on the pedal they're pretty nice, but at the same time there are other distortion pedals which I much prefer, all the same.

A rat is maybe the best all-rounder distortion pedal I've tried, in that it does a wide range of tones (od at lower settings, fuzz at higher, distortion in the middle) and works with a wide range of amps as its tone/filter control is very wide-ranging (unlike a lot ot pedals which often sound great through one amp and terrible through another). There are other distortion pedals I prefer for specific things to a rat, but for an all-rounder a rat's really hard to beat. I'd say it's a genuine classic pedal. On the cheap, mooer does a clone (black secret) but as I said above, QC is possibly a concern (plus it's not that cheap any more). I've seen some other cheapo chinese-made clones on ebay, I have no idea what they're like.

delay and/or reverb are probably pretty handy almost regardless of genre too, but how much you use them and/or how many features etc. you need will greatly affect how much you need to pay. The hardwire delay and reverbs get a good rep (haven't tried them) for not crazy amounts of money and if you need a fair few features but not the really involved stuff that you might need strymon etc. for. You can get cheaper delays and reverbs but they tend to be either very basic (i.e. sound is fine but they do basically one type of sound and don't have any bells or whistles), or the sound quality suffers.

Most of the other type of pedals are pretty dependent on what you play- fuzz is handy if you play a lot of classic rock, for example, wah is handy for lead and certain types of rhythm (funk etc.), modulation (chorus, phaser, flanger) is nice for adding interest to cleans and also sometimes with dirt but different players have preferences for each type, etc. etc.
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:37 PM   #6
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i'd say a tuner is pretty essential to most players.
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Old 08-17-2014, 04:44 PM   #7
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If learning, a good idea is to get multifx, go over all the effects and pick and choose later in pedal format.
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Old 08-17-2014, 05:06 PM   #8
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Get a ****in Wah-Wah! Its useful in almost every genre!
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Old 08-17-2014, 06:59 PM   #9
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So, if I'm reading this right, you have nothing? If you're completely unfamiliar with effects pedals, go buy yourself a REALLY cheapy Multi-FX unit (I recommend a used RP250 just because it has an expression on it and you can play with some Wah and Volume swells). That way you can get a good idea of what you're going to need. It sounds like a bad investment, but you need to start compiling a list of effects you're going to use and ones you'll never use. After that?

Tuner man. It sounds totally lame and boring, but being in tune is the #1 most important thing when you're playing music. A BOSS TU-2 will work fine. I personally use a Polytune Mini (just because of size) and the Korg Pitchblack is always cool

After that, depending on what music you play, it might be dirt time. Check out Overdrives (Tubescreamer, Blues Driver, Electra, Klon, Timmy etc), Distortions (RAT, Blackstar HT-Dist, DS-1, Jemini, etc), and Fuzzes (Fuzz Face, Tonebender, Univox Super Fuzz, Big Muff, Devi Ever, etc). I just named a few from each category, but it's important to not just call any distorted guitar 'distortion'. There are pretty big differences between the three, and you need to understand them.

After that, it's all about what you need (hell, it's always about what you need. Some guys use no dirt pedals!). Some things to check out: Wah, Univibe, Delay (analog/tape and digital), Reverb, Phaser, Chorus, Flanger, Tremolo, Octave, Vibrato, Compressor, Booster.

Just listen to your favorite guys and figure out what they use. Use that as a starting point to figure out what you want, and watch A LOT of youtube videos (like I'm talking triple digits if you have to) until you find EXACTLY the sound you want. There's seriously nothing worse than dropping a few hundred on a pedal you've been drooling over for months only to find something you like better a week later. You see the same 5 brands recommended for every single pedal. Don't always listen. Sometimes something you've never heard of is going to be the perfect fit, and you should go looking for those gems. 'Related Videos' is your friend on Youtube.

EDIT: Some brands to check out if you're bored:

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Ibanez
MXR
Dunlop
Univox
Mojo Hand FX
Earthquaker Devices
Devi Ever
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Bearfoot FX
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Voodoo Labs
Maxon
Electro Harmonix
TC Electronic
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Wampler
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Mad Professor
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Morley
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Old 08-17-2014, 10:00 PM   #10
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It depends entirely on what you are playing. If you are playing punk you probably just need a boost/overdrive, if that; if you are playing post rock techno mouse music you need a whole swathe of different effects.

Personally I think the DS-1 is a pile of crap; there are any number of better alternatives out there. But again, it depends on what you are playing. You've basically asked, "how long is a piece of string?"

But get a good tuner. I can highly recommend the Korg Pitchblack. Very cheap but work extremely well.
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Old 08-18-2014, 12:33 AM   #11
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If you have no idea what you want, just get a Boss ME-80 and play with it until you get a feel for FX in general.

Even an ME-25 would work.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:18 AM   #14
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If you have no idea what you want, just get a Boss ME-80 and play with it until you get a feel for FX in general.

Even an ME-25 would work.


+1. This is what I've done with the ME-50 and Ive slowly been learning what effects I like.
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Old 08-18-2014, 08:35 AM   #15
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Here is my take on effect pedals.

Make sure that they ad to the sound of the amp tone itself!

Many times the Boss line distortions ruin the tone somewhat but delay, chorus and so forth can be pretty cool. It depends on how your ears are developed of course but good natural amp distortion should be looked at first.

If you good good basic amp tone you like then a boost Like the Ibanez tube screamer or other would work nicely. The tubescreamer are more for leads though. Kirk Hammett have always used one. It is also used on the rhytm on Lightning by Metallica. That took some work though as I read some time ago somewhere.

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If you have no idea what you want, just get a Boss ME-80 and play with it until you get a feel for FX in general.

Even an ME-25 would work.

Or a Zoom G3/5.
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Zoom makes aweSome stuff. Even the G1N as cheap as it is has the Evh and LD distortion patches wHich can be made very good espeCially wIth a tubescreamer.
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Zoom makes aweSome stuff. Even the G1N as cheap as it is has the Evh and LD distortion patches wHich can be made very good espeCially wIth a tubescreamer.


So he should get G1N and buy tubescreamer in front.
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