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Old 06-21-2008, 07:11 PM   #21
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Awesome thread for all us Pagey fans. I don't know if there's a way to give points like there is for contributions but you def. deserve many of them for all this work, especially putting together all the pics.

I have some info/circumstantial evidence to add regarding the Dragon tele:

While the Tele was drilled for string through, it was def a top-loader bridge. You can see that its a top loader in many pics and that it has holes drilled i think from the supershow portion of the DVD (not sure on that one). Another thing, from what I've read, it wasn't the body that was refinished by one of his "friends" but the neck. Jimmy didn't like how that turned out and decided to "retire" the body. Then the neck was later used on the Botswana Brown telecaster with the B-Bender. If you look at the picture of the Botswana Tele from the Oakland '77 show, the neck is a very unnatural color, and to me, it would make sense if that is what happened.

From everything I've heard this Tele was a late 58 or 1959 model, due to the fact that tele's were top-loaders at that time.

I'm currently building a tribute Dragon tele which you can check out my thread for.
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:23 PM   #22
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^ That guitar is awesome RicardoB, the dragon tele is probably my favorite Page guitar. Looking forward to see how it turns out, i've thought about buying a cheap telecaster kit and making it look like Jimmy's but I lack the talent and time.

Looking forward to the finished project, i'm sure it'll sound great.
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Old 06-21-2008, 11:10 PM   #23
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Awesome thread for all us Pagey fans. I don't know if there's a way to give points like there is for contributions but you def. deserve many of them for all this work, especially putting together all the pics.

I have some info/circumstantial evidence to add regarding the Dragon tele:

While the Tele was drilled for string through, it was def a top-loader bridge. You can see that its a top loader in many pics and that it has holes drilled i think from the supershow portion of the DVD (not sure on that one). Another thing, from what I've read, it wasn't the body that was refinished by one of his "friends" but the neck. Jimmy didn't like how that turned out and decided to "retire" the body. Then the neck was later used on the Botswana Brown telecaster with the B-Bender. If you look at the picture of the Botswana Tele from the Oakland '77 show, the neck is a very unnatural color, and to me, it would make sense if that is what happened.

From everything I've heard this Tele was a late 58 or 1959 model, due to the fact that tele's were top-loaders at that time.

I'm currently building a tribute Dragon tele which you can check out my thread for.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...ad.php?t=850808


The Botswana Brown Tele had a maple neck on it during 1977 that's why it might have looked so different to you, I need to go back and add that. That maple neck had the string ferrule in a different location as well so it's definitely not from the Dragon Tele. Supposedly the rosewood neck that was later added in 1979 was the neck from the Dragon Tele, certainly looks like it might be it. The story about the body being painted by some roadie definitely seems to be just a story. I can't remember the guy's name, maybe an old tech of Jimmy's, but he said Page had the body from the Dragon Tele stored away.

As far as the year goes, I always heard the top loader bit lasted through 1960. John Owen, a bandmate of Jeff Beck purchased the guitar new in '61 before giving it to Beck who would later give it to Page in 1966. There were definitely top loaders in '58 and '59 like you said. Someone on another forum brought up the neck size too, making it seem more like a '60 or '61.

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It took me almost half an hour to read that!

But man was it awesome! Also interesting for me, since I did a CROTM on JP way way WAY WAY back and didn't have anywhere this much info.




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Actually with the revival of the CROTMs...

I'm thinking about doing one myself! Of Eric Clapton (early days). Considering I know a lot about it, why not? I'll make one JUST as good!
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:27 PM   #26
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^ Ah this will be interesting, might as well have one of us do Jeff Beck while we're at it.
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thats awesome man, good on you for taking the time to put it together =D
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:53 PM   #28
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Old 06-22-2008, 05:06 PM   #29
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Very nice Whole Lotta Led and can't think of anyone better to do it than you.

I love that B-Bender Tele.

I bet I know what that other forum is. I doubt I have any photos that you do not already have.

Thanks!


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Old 06-22-2008, 05:07 PM   #30
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I think this should be stickied.
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^I tend to agree
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You should write a goddamn book on this subject. Nice one.
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:19 PM   #34
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That was awesome. Thanks for that.
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PM the mods!

Say that I have one I can do too! I'm getting farily far on it! However my writing has been halted....


With the arrival of my iMac! So I have to transfer it here and keep on writing.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:13 AM   #36
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I agree that it should be stickied. Very detailed and well written. I don't know what it takes, I guess it is a mods descision. With the O2 show last December and rumors of a reunion tour it seems fitting to do it now.

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Old 06-24-2008, 05:56 AM   #37
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Looks like someone stickied it! to whoever did it!
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:10 AM   #38
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Holy ****, now THAT is a guide! Awesome stuff man.

The white strat puzzles me. It doesn't have the pickguard with the screw between the neck and middle pickups, and so it's not a 62ish model. But it's got a 3 ply pickguard, so it isn't a 52ish one either. And is it just me, or does that neck look like flamed maple?

I THINK it might be a newer strat.. Perhaps some sort of deluxe type?
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Awesome stuff. Kinda shocked the AC30 wasn't mentioned for anything specific. My friend got a newer ac15cc a few weeks ago, it's amazing how Page-like it sounds.
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I dont like Led Zeppelin or care about them in any way to be honest, but you sir deserve a huge pat on the back for this article!

You did a great job!
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