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A socially liberal society 24 75.00%
An economically liberal society 8 25.00%
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:01 AM   #1
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What is more important for humanity?

A socially liberal society (personal freedoms etc.), or an economically liberal society? You can only pick one.

Discuss.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:02 AM   #2
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doesn't matter, people are going to flourish and people are going to die horribly either way.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:04 AM   #3
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Important for what end? Short sighted hedonism or future stability? The 2 are almost always mutually exclusive
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:12 AM   #4
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I don't trust free markets so the other one
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:12 AM   #5
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can i get an answer that doesn't include 'liberal'?
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:16 AM   #6
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I actually don't get the question now that I think about it. Isn't it inherently loaded to pit social freedoms against free market capitalism? Cuz like, that's one view. Because the two aren't mutually exclusive if you believe in a free market (which I don't, but still).
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:17 AM   #7
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:19 AM   #8
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I'd rather have social liberalism as economic liberalism/individualism in general is ridiculous. One may limit and balance them, but freedom to oppress and exploit, and monopolise on that, needs to be crushed. Basic human rights and the safe freedom to love who you love, think what you think etc should be held as sacred, and right now they are not.

EDIT: yeah not sure what I was thinking with 'both', dont mind me.

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Old 07-11-2015, 11:20 AM   #9
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I actually don't get the question now that I think about it. Isn't it inherently loaded to pit social freedoms against free market capitalism? Cuz like, that's one view. Because the two aren't mutually exclusive if you believe in a free market (which I don't, but still).

This, a lot of people think that you can achieve both through one of the answers.

And can I get a more specific definition of 'social liberty' please. Social liberty would be good enough to name what I think is most important but I doubt I'd agree on what it means with most of the people who might choose the answer.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:28 AM   #10
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:35 AM   #11
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And can I get a more specific definition of 'social liberty' please. Social liberty would be good enough to name what I think is most important but I doubt I'd agree on what it means with most of the people who might choose the answer.
social liberalism usually refers to social justice, does it not? It's about granting freedom and equal rights without it being imposed by a dictator or oppressive regime.

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Old 07-11-2015, 11:35 AM   #12
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A socially liberal society (personal freedoms etc.)

We can't be trusted with too much freedom, we'll all kill each other
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An economically liberal society?

We can't be trusted with a liberal economy because we won't do whats best for humanity's existence.

So neither. Let's die.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:37 AM   #13
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We can't be trusted with too much freedom, we'll all kill each other

We can't be trusted with a liberal economy because we won't do whats best for humanity's existence.

So neither. Let's die.

Yea, let's get out money's worth out of them nukes.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:56 AM   #15
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Why can't we have one, but not the other?
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Why can't we have one, but not the other?


Because otherwise there is no discussion to be had
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Because otherwise there is no discussion to be had

Shouldn't have asked a question that poses a false dichotomy then.
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Bleesed are the cheesemakers.
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:52 PM   #20
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Interesting question. In interpreting the answers you have to bear in mind that liberal has a different definition in the US to the rest of the world.
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