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Old 07-21-2014, 01:58 PM   #1
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Sampling and Loops

Hey guys

I'm bored of writing my own music so I was wondering if you could help me. I've been listening to stuff like this



and I know it's made up of Brian Eno samples but I can't find anything cool to use so i was hoping maybe you guys would have some ideas about who's music to steal? Also, making up drumbeats just seems really long winded and pointless when there's loads of loops around - do any of you know where i could get some?
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:18 PM   #2
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I would recommend sampling the drum beat from Synthetic Substitution over any of Chopin's nocturnes, and then adding various nature sounds, such as streams, animals, rain, and wind. This would create a very unique sound that I think many people would enjoy.

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Old 07-21-2014, 02:32 PM   #3
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Hey guys

I'm bored of writing my own music so I was wondering if you could help me. I've been listening to stuff like this



and I know it's made up of Brian Eno samples but I can't find anything cool to use so i was hoping maybe you guys would have some ideas about who's music to steal? Also, making up drumbeats just seems really long winded and pointless when there's loads of loops around - do any of you know where i could get some?



LOL, nice troll attempt.

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Old 07-21-2014, 02:41 PM   #4
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LOL, nice troll attempt.


That's all he does. Almost every single one of his posts is trolling in some way.
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:41 PM   #5
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you don't need to quote the whole OP

i've been thinking about stealing this, how do i do this with theory?



also if i do will my song be legitimate?
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:42 PM   #6
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That's all he does. Almost every single one of his posts is trolling in some way.

i'm encouraging discussion about important things for a change
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:45 PM   #7
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i'm encouraging discussion about important things for a change

If you're all about change and innovation(as your hate of traditional theory suggests), etc, why do you encourage recycling old material by means of sampling. Don't you think making things from scratch has higher changes of being truly ORIGINAL?
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If you're all about change and innovation(as your hate of traditional theory suggests), etc, why do you encourage recycling old material by means of sampling. Don't you think making things from scratch has higher changes of being truly ORIGINAL?

Here are two great songs, that are completely original, that use sampling techniques.




Both songs are unique and original, and yet could not be possible without sampling.
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define original

then ask whether it's possible with sampling
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:50 PM   #10
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Old 07-21-2014, 02:52 PM   #11
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Regardless of if the OP was posed in a troll-y way, this is still a discussion worth having, because it constantly gets brought up, and this is the musician talk forum.
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See you guys, it's not really trolling. His sincere opinion towards sampling has spurred further discussion towards important aspects of musical innovation that have been neglected by this forum.

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If you're all about change and innovation(as your hate of traditional theory suggests), etc, why do you encourage recycling old material by means of sampling. Don't you think making things from scratch has higher changes of being truly ORIGINAL?


Not necessarily. Playing an E chord on a guitar really does not have any different effect than sampling an E chord played on a guitar. It can be beneficial to sample instead considering the endless compositional possibilities of sampling technology.

Obligatory example of original music made through sampling that we're all familiar with:
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you don't need to quote the whole OP

i've been thinking about stealing this, how do i do this with theory?

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also if i do will my song be legitimate?

Alva Noto



The interesting thing about this debate to me is the joke I posted in the other thread that went ignored. But basically, in the classical world, you do this and it's called quotation and you're a brilliant postmodernist. For some reason when you do this with pop music you're a hack.
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:14 PM   #14
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The interesting thing about this debate to me is the joke I posted in the other thread that went ignored. But basically, in the classical world, you do this and it's called quotation and you're a brilliant postmodernist. For some reason when you do this with pop music you're a hack.


I noticed but I didn't have anything to add.

I appreciate you.
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Old 07-21-2014, 03:25 PM   #15
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DJ culture was the first artistic avante-garde within popular music that ‘recodes modern
technology’ (Poschardt 1998: 358)
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What does "recode modern technology" mean?
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i think in context it meant going ham on a turntable haha
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Old 07-21-2014, 04:04 PM   #18
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Turntablists are great because they double as samplers and percussionists (for lack of a better word).

What do all the anti-sampling people in this thread think of a nice DJ scratching solo?

Also wow, look at all these illegitimate musicians being hacks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_quotation

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well even i think they're bloody awful
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Who are "all the anti-sampling people in this thread" though?
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