The4thHorsemen

here's mine, but I don't know how to make it into a midi file.

does this abide by the rules?

edit: I guess I'll try to explain how I wrote it. I mostly just tried to find a way to play those notes that didn't sound completely ******ed, then I added in the choir ahs a tritone above to give it a creepier atmosphere, and then added in that galloping drum to give it a little something extra.

For the second part I actually did something not completely stupid, I decided to just take all the notes from those random ones, got rid of the A# and made a scale, then I used this to come up with that riff, and added the galloping drums in again. When I revisited the main idea I kinda took it and just changed around the rhythm and put it in 9/8.

For that weird little outro thing I thought "hm, I bet I just used minor triads for those notes and played it in a weird way it would sound fucked up and creepy... let's see what it sounds like." so I tried it, kinda liked it in an extremely add way, and left it.

what do ya'll think? to me it's kinda *shrug* idk. I'm just proud of myself for being able to come up with something remotely musical out of that.

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Experiment #1.zip (1.0 KB, 76 views)

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branny1982

that sounds quite cool actually!

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Galvanise69

With this riff, is still horrible.

Archeo, or somone else, can you tell me if Im breaking any rules?

As far as writing this, the main thoughts were

Chromatic Run should be fast, I didnt want to hang onto the cromatic tones, as the last times I had tried, it sounded pretty bad.

The first long note was the D, the B - D being a minor third interval, wchich sounds "normal" not atonal.

Harmonized the G# - A - C bit in thirds, G# being on the bottom, added a Major 3rd harmony on top, being B# (C) which worked like-wise for the first and third note.

The A- G# harmony was passed over pretty quick, plus there was drums and guitar underneath.

With the G# - F# - F bit.

Thought of it was Ab - Gb - F

Put it in Db Major, and applied sixths harmony, which sounded alright, ending on a Minor 6th.

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Archo Idea.zip (901 Bytes, 48 views)

Freepower

Some of you guys have done beautiful work (the composition of destiny, particularly, was full of destiny and reminded me a little of Steve Vai - actually, would you mind if I covered it sometime?). It makes me feel a little bad that I did such a lighthearted and strange piece.

Ah well, might do another. I realised at the very end I'd missed a requirement. Which made me feel pretty stupid. I probably missed others, it never rains. However, I'm pretty happy with this.

Here's what I wrote as I composed -

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archeo project.zip (13.6 KB, 88 views)

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Ead

damn freepower, that's absolutely diabolical very cool to listen to. I'm pretty impressed with your funky interpretation of the theme, that part I love. The ending was great, it gave me a chuckle lol. Your variation of the theme made me think of how Atheist mixed some jazz and metal elements on the Elements album.. kickass album..

anyway, I second that everyone else upload midi files as well, for those who don't have GP. I do, but a lower version so I can't hear everyones.

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PSM

You're like the guy that was in my Atonal Theory class that, no matter how the teacher and other students tried to explain it, kept coming back and arguing that "there is such a thing as factually good and bad music, and this is clearly bad music, or just not music at all."

Open up your mind a little bit, dude. Clearly you've never studied or had any sort of real experience with serial or atonal music.

sock_demon

You lost me at Rudess.

Yes he used his Jew magic to divert my attention.

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demonofthenight

There are some things that are inheritly bad in music. Extremely chromatic lines are one of them. If you dont force it (with alot of effort) to sound good and resolve, its going to sound like crap.

And I agree with your friend. Atonal music is either really, amazingly good (schoenberg and... nope just schoenberg) or so horrible that your ears will bleed (everyone other than schoenberg).

I might have a go when I get around to it. Chances are I'll be pretty busy doing nothing.

J.A.M

Nice. I think I'll fiddle with variations, including going into 6/8 from 4/4, maybe try retrogrades and inversions of the melody; perhaps trying something like Rachminov's Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, 18th variation(?)

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Archeo Avis

Counter argument: Liquid Tension Experiment - Paradigm Shift

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RCalisto

^ period

ps: ead's song, just ****ing rocks.

Archeo Avis

I just listened to Ead's composition. I really enjoyed that chord progression. I might have to try to incorporate it into one of my works somehow. From 1:01 onwards was just fantastic.

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PSM

You're missing the point. Everything you just stated is your opinion and will vary from person to person, just like the impression certain music has on someone will vary from person to person. You will get people arguing that rap is "bad" music, or someone who likes rap might argue that country is "bad" music, or someone who likes metal might argue that classical is "bad" music. But what it all comes down to is that everything is opinion.

Go to a region of the world where microtonal music is the norm and you'll probably think that all of their music is "bad". Meanwhile, they'll think the same thing about the bands and composers YOU like. It's all opinion and what our ear is trained to hear (or open to hearing).

To state that a piece of music is "good" or "bad", or to state that a certain technique or phrase or idea in music or composition is "good" or "bad", is to state an opinion, not a fact.

My argument to you would be to PROVE to me that an extremely chromatic line is "inherently bad" in music. A fact can be proven, so you should have no problem doing so. But coming back with something along the lines of "just listen to this song" will only be proving my point because, in my opinion or someone else's, that song or phrase just might sound good, even if you think it's the most godawful noise you've ever heard.

PSM

Oh yes, and you DON'T agree with my friend because in his opinion, ALL atonal music was horrible, bad music, including Schoenberg, Berg, Webern, and the other major atonal/serial composers.

GuitarMunky

^what's good or bad is always a matter of opinion. BTW I dont think most composers say.... "hmmm I really have to do something chromatic"..... and then force it to work. its more likely that they use their ears to create something that sounds good to them (not forced at all).... and it just happens to be chromatic....... or whatever.

btw EAD, I really like what you did with yours. It sounds like you used your ears rather than just theoretical concepts alone. I could listen to yours all the way through, and to be honest I wasn't expecting many, if any to be something Id want to listen to (no offense intended). nice!

gonzaw

The funny thing is, most of the piece is in Db major (at least the ending), but you didn't put Db/C# in your rules

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Archeo Avis

I didn't put any key in my rules. It doesn't concern me what key you use.

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Ead

thanks for the compliments, fellas
GuitarMunky: I'm glad you liked it and thought it sounded more like an ear piece instead of a theory peice, because that's what I try to aim for when I compose. I might pick a scale or something, like for my 'other theme' I guess you could call it, I wanted to have the b6 in there. I wasn't really conciously thinking strictly in harmonic major, I just picked up my guitar and the melody came out.

and yea, the way I interpreted the notes brought my last chord in the theme to Db major, and to me it sounds like it resolved there so I expanded on it.

I think that chord progession is instantly likeable I realized why it sounds so familiar.. its a slightly different version of a short jazz thing I came up with that's in my profile.

sadly I've run out of steam I really want to add more but I have no idea what to do with it now. I might try jam something up later

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RCalisto

so... has everyone forgot about this?