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Old 09-29-2008, 02:47 PM   #1
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I was wondering what`s more important to the music world nowadays...

Style: Meaning drummers like lars Ullrich or guitarists like kirk hammet dave mustaine etc. which arent the best in world at there instrument but still have that unique way of playing that amaze people like me... especialy live!!!!

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Perfectionism: Meaning musicians like yngwie malmsteen mike portnoy etc. which kick major ass on there instrumeant but just dont Give you that "Holy ****" moment if u know what i mean.... I've seen all of these guys live and i find metallica and megadeth way better the technical guys and bands.

Well I'd like to here some opinions on that, that would be cool...

P.S. I might have ****ed up some words cause my english isn't the best cause I'm from germany.






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Old 09-29-2008, 02:52 PM   #2
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one word, ...........Substance
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:53 PM   #3
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what do u mean with substance?
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:54 PM   #4
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lars -> doesn't have style, he just sucks

kirk hammet -> wank E minor with your foot on a wah wah pedal

dave mustaine -> he does good riffs, he's

yngwie -> wank harmonic minor scales and do ninja kicks

mike portnoy -> just pure unadulterated awesome


there is worse technical wank out there than yngwie and dream theater


edit: ooh, substance, yeah, I'd say that
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:57 PM   #5
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i know it was just an example cause i've seen these guys live....
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:59 PM   #6
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Technicality with style. Trivium, Megadeth, Dream Theater, etc. Lot of good stuff. At the moment, I'm trying to be a good player and not bother about attitude, but once I'm good, I'll start doing some awesome moves!!!
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what I mean by substance is, for example.. two guitarist can play the same riff.. one may sound technically perfect.. but the other is emotional, both physically and tonally. Emotion invokes Emotion, and a great musician has more than just technical prowess, he's able to connect w/ you through music..

perfect example of someone who has no substance.. Yngwie
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lars -> doesn't have style, he just sucks

kirk hammet -> wank E minor with your foot on a wah wah pedal

dave mustaine -> he does good riffs, he's

yngwie -> wank harmonic minor scales and do ninja kicks

mike portnoy -> just pure unadulterated awesome


there is worse technical wank out there than yngwie and dream theater


edit: ooh, substance, yeah, I'd say that


my toughts exactly
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:03 PM   #9
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exactly what i mean :Thumbs up: @Jshawk
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perfect example of someone who has no substance.. Yngwie


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what I mean by substance is, for example.. two guitarist can play the same riff.. one may sound technically perfect.. but the other is emotional, both physically and tonally. Emotion invokes Emotion, and a great musician has more than just technical prowess, he's able to connect w/ you through music..

perfect example of someone who has no substance.. Yngwie


Yngwie is alright

this is no substance:
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what I mean by substance is, for example.. two guitarist can play the same riff.. one may sound technically perfect.. but the other is emotional, both physically and tonally. Emotion invokes Emotion, and a great musician has more than just technical prowess, he's able to connect w/ you through music..

perfect example of someone who has no substance.. Yngwie


how dare!
black star and far beyond the sun has loads of "substance" and has emotion
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has anyone got a band with perfectionism and substance, and not trivium cause they sound like all other 14 yr old metal bands
i mean like wintersun etc
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Yngwie is alright

this is no substance:






Excellent Example.. I'll stand corrected !
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:17 PM   #15
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I was wondering what`s more important to the music world nowadays...

Style: Meaning drummers like lars Ullrich or guitarists like kirk hammet dave mustaine etc. which arent the best in world at there instrument but still have that unique way of playing that amaze people like me... especialy live!!!!

or

Perfectionism: Meaning musicians like yngwie malmsteen mike portnoy etc. which kick major ass on there instrumeant but just dont Give you that "Holy shit" moment if u know what i mean.... I've seen all of these guys live and i find metallica and megadeth way better the technical guys and bands.

Well I'd like to here some opinions on that, that would be cool...

P.S. I might have ****ed up some words cause my english isn't the best cause I'm from germany.


Well you are part of the "music world" as much as anyone here. So the real question is: whats important to YOU.
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:26 PM   #16
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Well, their style has to come from somewhere, whether their guitar tone, their dynamics, phrasing, whatever (improvisation or not).

Yngwie and others may play with more "technique" (nowadays only means playing faster and cleaner though), and may not enphasise dynamics and phrasing, making them sound not as interesting as others who do....
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Well you are part of the "music world" as much as anyone here. So the real question is: whats important to YOU.


Well i already said what is improtant to me. Substance as they named in the first post.... but i wanted to know what the majority thinks.
Because it seems to as if Technique is becoming more important than true substance.
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Well i already said what is improtant to me. Substance as they named in the first post.... but i wanted to know what the majority thinks.
Because it seems to as if Technique is becoming more important than true substance.


power chords are as big as ever
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:45 PM   #19
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tech=/=substance

and really, I dont give a sh*t how good, technical, or flashy you are. Just make that sh*t rock. Thats all that matters
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Just make that sh*t rock. Thats all that matters


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Just make that sh*t rock. Thats all that matters


I had to quote that twice because in my book that is all that matters.
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