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Old 01-22-2013, 01:37 AM   #1
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Requirements of being an instrument teacher

So yeah, I figured if I can't get a real job (I haven't given up, just in case) I could give bass lessons occasionally. However, I've only been playing for 3 years and don't know if I'm "qualified". So what do you guys think? What is necessary to teach kids music?
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:41 AM   #2
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Let's just say I wouldn't pay money for lessons from somebody who has only been playing 3 years.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:42 AM   #3
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More than 3 years experience, unless you have been doing nothing but playing and studying for those 3 years.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:42 AM   #4
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:44 AM   #5
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Let's just say I wouldn't pay money for lessons from somebody who has only been playing 3 years.


This, pretty much.

Good theoretical knowledge, years of experience in a variety of musical settings (performance, band experience, recording experience etc), good communicative skills and a willingness to tailor lessons to an individual student's needs, as opposed to 'cookie-cutter' style teaching.

Those are what I look for in a teacher. I don't really care if they can shred, or if they're technical gods. In fact, I've studied under teachers like that and they seem to spend half the lesson showing off their chops and not teaching.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:48 AM   #6
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Reading comprehension.
As in, being able to recognise that The Pit is an off topic subforum and this should be asked in Musicians Talk.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:49 AM   #7
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Reading comprehension.
As in, being able to recognise that The Pit is an off topic subforum and this should be asked in Musicians Talk.


I thought about that, but then I thought about how many other threads I see similar to this fly in the pit so whatever.

I think I have a far greater music theory knowledge than other people who have been playing 3 years however, you guys are probably correct and this is probably a bad idea.

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Old 01-22-2013, 01:50 AM   #8
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I thought about that, but then I thought about how many other threads I see similar to this fly in the pit so whatever.

Sure, but many of of mods and regulars in MT have experience as instrument teachers, and I've seen (and asked) questions like this being answered there many times.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:54 AM   #9
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You could probably give lessons to kids as long as you're a halfway decent bassist and no-one would know any better. 3 years is pushing it though, I feel like you could only be so good.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:00 AM   #10
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It doesn't matter how good you are (within reason- you gotta be better than your student) as long as you have good communication skills. Being able to explain things in a way a kid can understand is more important than any technical feats that might impress him. Being able to motivate him to practice (by making lessons/learning fun) is the second most important thing. You need to know the basics really well (ie don't pass on any bad habits to students).
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:36 AM   #11
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If you can't even put in the work it takes to get a job, what makes you think you'd take the time to teach someone properly? Or effectively?

Also, do you have any credentials?
songs?
videos?
decent set-up?
gear for the student to play?
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:38 AM   #12
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If you can't even put in the work it takes to get a job, what makes you think you'd take the time to teach someone properly?

Who says that he isn't putting effort? It's not easy.
Besides, using your own skills to become self-employed when you can't find work is a great idea.
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Who says that he isn't putting effort? It's not easy.
Besides, using your own skills to become self-employed when you can't find work is a great idea.

It was implied by his original post.

It's a good idea when your skills are credible.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:47 AM   #14
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scam all them hopeless kids, teach them easy acdc songs
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It was implied by his original post.

I don't see how you interperet that.
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And it's a good idea if it's something you want to do. You'll find out pretty quickly if you are up to the task, and you will only really become a 'credible' teacher when you have experience teaching.

Besides, I don't know TS's situation but if he needs money it only makes sense to try to exploit any skills he might have as far as he can.
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I don't see how you interperet that.

And it's a good idea if it's something you want to do. You'll find out pretty quickly if you are up to the task, and you will only really become a 'credible' teacher when you have experience teaching.

Besides, I don't know TS's situation but if he needs money it only makes sense to try to exploit any skills he might have as far as he can.

You can be credible by actually having live and studio experience and recorded examples of your playing.

If a person is looking for lessons do you think they will just go with someone who doesn't even have examples of their playing versus someone who does?


Also, TS how much do you initially plan on charging?
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The standard is like $20 an hour, no? If I did go through with this I'd probably charge 10 though. Judging by what you guys have said however, I won't be doing this.
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The standard is like $20 an hour, no? If I did go through with this I'd probably charge 10 though. Judging by what you guys have said however, I won't be doing this.

I didn't mean to discourage you.
Just trying to give you real things you need to think about.
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You can be credible by actually having live and studio experience and recorded examples of your playing.
If a person is looking for lessons do you think they will just go with someone who doesn't even have examples of their playing versus someone who does?

They will go with the person who has a good reputation as a teacher (ie if a friend recommends them), and one who doesn't charge too much for lessons. Having recordings or a flashy website with a list of credentials is not necessary, but could be useful for reeling in students if you have a lot of competition. In my area, there is not a lot of competition when it comes to bas teachers.
You just need to make yourself look like you know what you're doing in any ads you put up, and think about offering a free first lesson to encourage people to try you out.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:57 AM   #20
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One of my buddy's does lessons and told me that the only thing kids are really looking for these days is to play songs from their favorite band. They'll come in with sheet music for Red Hot Chile Peppers or something and want to learn it.

His strength lies in the ability to quickly pick up a song, so all he really does is study it at home, learn it, and then teach em it. If you can pick up songs quickly in different genre's, you are ready at a basic level to get started. Each person is different of course.
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