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Old 11-11-2008, 09:55 PM   #1
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The "How deep do I route my neck pocket/direct mount pickups" tutorial thread.

Okay, heres my method of routing neck pockets, because face it, if you are building your own guitar, the whole 5/8'' deep thing usually doesnt work (not for me anyways)

Basically you need some algebra skills, a digital caliper (12 dollars at Harbor Freight), and some sort of calculator.

First thing is first, you gotta take your measurements, fretwire, fingerboard thickness, neck thickness, and the HEIGHT of the strings off of the face of the guitar body (measure the bridge for that)




Okay so the fretboard thickness is .2455, fret height (dont measure the tang, jus the crown) is .0345, and our neck thickness is an assumed .75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the bridge (make sure you put the saddle at about the middle of its height) is .4135.

so i draw it out...



Now, we have to find X. you add everything on the neck side togeother to get 1.03''.

Okay, so the strings are off of the body .4135'', and the neck is 1.03'' thick, so you would subtract to find the difference and thats your depth, but wait.. you need to account for string action, which is about 1/16'', so lets go for .063'', add that to the THICKNESS of the neck to get 1.093''.

1.093'' - .4135'' = .6795''. Thats your depth of your neck pocket.

Now for the pickups, you do the same thing, except you may want to change your 1/16'' string action for it, depending upon how close you like your pickup to be to the strings, just take your caliper and measure from the bottom of the bracket to the top of the pole piece. I dont think this was on stew mac, stew mac just says "most neck pockets are 5/8'' deep" now 5/8 is pretty close to .6795, but i like to be better than close, and if you have a bridge that sits up a little higher than usual, aka a kahler or a recessed TOM, this will be handy.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:03 PM   #2
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Thanks I'll really remember that method in the future!
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:26 PM   #3
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Here's an idea as well, as i know i had this exact problem with mine, and now need to adjust it as well:



how thick should z be?
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:36 PM   #4
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Great tutorial LP! When I turn your body blank into the hard tail metal machine she will be, I can use this method.

How thick should the guitar 'heel' be?
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:42 PM   #5
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i dont know, doesnt matter too much. an inch, maybe less, maybe more.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:43 PM   #6
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Well, how thin can you go before the heel just breaks under tension?
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:47 PM   #7
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it wont? you want your body at 1 3/4. you shold never have to route your neck pocket deeper than an inch, id imagine.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:51 PM   #8
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Yeah, but you contour the heel in an AANJ style right? Ideally, the thinner the better (to a point) for better higher fret access...

So how much can you carve it?
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^this




























is my question as well.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:42 AM   #10
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Nice tut, man. Just in time for my build (it'll have a hard-mouns middle single coil).
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:47 AM   #11
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id imagine if you kept .5'' youd be safe, i dont see the wood breaking off or anything.
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sounds good.
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:08 PM   #13
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So I need to route the cavity for my TOM bridge before the neck pocket so that I can use it as a measurement?=/
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:20 PM   #14
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How far away from the strings will a pickup pick up sound? I like haveing my pickups way far away from the strings(speedpicking purposes)?
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thanks man will for sure be doing this on my build
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:16 PM   #16
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Yeah, but you contour the heel in an AANJ style right? Ideally, the thinner the better (to a point) for better higher fret access...

So how much can you carve it?

I can't remember what thread it was in but i remember Perry saying that the sides of the neck glued to the sides of the pocket is enough to keep the neck from coming out or whatever from string tension...
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^ You're thinking of how he 'dry' tests the neck pocket; the tightness of the neck in the pocket is enough to hold the weight of the body. No glue, just friction.
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nope...
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:04 AM   #19
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I noticed there are a lot of first builds coming up. This is very informative so I'm giving it a bump.
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I can't remember what thread it was in but i remember Perry saying that the sides of the neck glued to the sides of the pocket is enough to keep the neck from coming out or whatever from string tension...

This is true. But it doesn't cover bolt-ons... However, some troll math tells me that LP's estimate of .5" will be plenty solid when I think about how the force is directed.
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