Bullet For My Valentine: Stepping To The Next Level

Once you cut through the thick Welsh accent, you can hear that Michael Paget has some interesting things to say. The band’s last album, The Poison, will soon be replaced with a newer album that Padge and his band, Bullet For My Valentine, are currently working on.

But it was still a bit early to talk about that future record, so here, the guitarist spoke about The Poison and the music he makes.

Ultimate-Guitar: The Poison was the band’s first real album. You’ve done a lot of EPs and various recordings, but what does it feel like to have that first full-length done?

Michael Paget: I think we had 1 or 2 maybe ideas for songs on The Poison, but we didn’t have any actually going into the studio. So we kind of wrote everything in a rehearsal room. We pretty much recorded it. We did an EP before The Poison, so we recorded all those songs for the EP. We kind of ran out of songs, so we had to write all new ones for The Poison. It just came together. We worked with Colin Richardson before on the EP as well. He knew exactly what we, as a band, were after. I think we knew as a band what we were after.

What were you after musically as a band?

Just a balls-out British heavy metal band. I know we still have Iron Maiden and they’re around today, but we hadn’t had a good British band for a while. We kind of flew the colors really.

Do you fashion yourself after Iron Maiden?

I would definitely say they were an important influence on me. I think there are a few of the boys in the band who were definitely influenced by Maiden and love all the stuff they’ve done. So yeah, we’re all, I think, yeah.

As you’re writing the music, did you want to express a range of musical ideas?

Yeah. Me and the singer and the other guitar player, we really enjoy a lot of old school guitar work and guitar stuff. So we really wanted to touch on the old school guitar work and techniques and stuff. And also employ in the harmonies and the melodies as well. Just huge choruses and just a certain way we kind of write songs. We all kind of know what’s gonna come next. Once we’re at that point, we all kind of know what’s going to come next. We’re all kind of on a level and stuff, which is really cool and easy to work with.

How do you work up songs in terms of parts and construction?

A song is usually from a guitar idea, like a guitar part. Say, for instance, I come up with a guitar part or Matt comes up with a part, we go to the back of the bus and then we kind of arrange something so we have a verse and a chorus. Then we take it into the rehearsal room and kind of make a song of it as a band, fitting in and playing all sorts of ideas and stuff. Once we’re kind of happy with it, then we go into demo it. We will just record it locally and find out what kind of has to change for the re-recording. That’s pretty much it. The music, we concentrate really, really hard on the music first. Then Matt writes and puts the lyrics on later on.

How did “Four Words (To Choke Upon)” come about with all of the orchestrated guitars?

It definitely would start with drums first. The boys would kind of work out a tempo, then Moose will go in and track the drums. Then it will probably be main rhythms, the chunky, heavy guitars. Usually we’ve mixed overdubs and bass together, so everyone just gets a go every now and then. No one is waiting for any of the rehearsal. We kind of do the drums and the main brunt of the guitars, then the overdubs and solos with the bass, then vocals last.

How many tracks of guitars are on any given song?

Usually there are 2 rhythm guitars, either side of left and right. If there’s a lead line, if it’s harmonized, then it’s 1 lead line, 1 harmony guitar.

How do you decide upon who plays lead?

Usually if I play the solo, then I play the harmony. If Matt plays a solo, you play the harmony. Whoever’s solo it is, they will do whatever they do.

Do you usually work out certain parts live?

Yeah, just to make it easier for Matt because he sings and plays. So if there is a trickier harmony, then I’ll take that one while he does the easier one to take the pressure off him.

You sing as well, correct?

I kind of…yeah, I kind of sing and harmonize and scream and whatever.

Do you like singing?

Not personally, no. I’d rather not. I’d rather just play guitar.

How would you describe the differences between you and Matt as guitar players?

We’ve kind of worked out over the last 2 years that I kind of do the more wigglier stuff, the solos and stuff. Matt’s going to concentrate more on the rhythm parts and stuff. He’s a really, really good rhythm player. So we’re kind of finding our place in the band, which is cool.

In “Tears Don’t Fall,” there are some great picking parts. Does that kind of part get changed around when you’re in the studio?

The intro riff to “Tears Don’t Fall,” that was like really old because we were a band for like 7 years before Bullet For My Valentine. The intro riff, it’s been around for years, but it was in a different key.

That song was on an EP, right?

I’m not sure. I don’t think it was, no.

My apologies, man.

That riff was around for ages. We kind of wrote the song and it had big choruses and stuff, and we needed like an intro riff or a verse type of riff. I just kind of transposed it down into A and it worked. Sometimes it’s great because you can find the guitar parts and just piece songs together, which is great.

So this is a song that had its origins several years ago.

Yeah.

On the picking part and delays, are you in the studio with Colin, running through different pieces of gear?

Oh, yeah. Definitely. Colin has to play every piece of equipment before recording. That’s the good thing about Colin. He really does try everything that he’s got in the studio, just to get the best sound.

Talk a little about the main guitars and amps that you were using on the record.

I think the main guitar was actually an ESP Eclipse with the EMGs. I think we used a Peavey 5150 head with an Ibanez Tube Screamer. That’s pretty much it, I think.

That’s kind of your sound?

I would say that’s the Bullet sound, yeah.

"We really wanted to touch on the old school guitar work and techniques."

How would you describe that sound?

I think we really wanted the guitars to sound as heavy or as close to Burn My Eyes, the Machine Head album.

So you used that album as like a sounding board?

Yeah. It was definitely mentioned. We wanted the guitars to sound as heavy as those ones.

And Colin obviously knew exactly what you were talking about?

Yeah. He gets into his guitar tones, which is totally cool with us.

Are you much of a “guitar guy,” trying out new guitars and new sounds?

Yeah. I don’t think I’ve actually found my sound at the moment, but I’m constantly looking out and playing things in the link in the chain. Yeah, I guess I’m going to keep looking. You stumble across a new Ampeg or something and you’ve got to give it a go just to see what it sounds like.

What kind of gear have you been experimenting with?

I think we tried like a bass wah, but we tried it with guitar. It’s got like different frequencies. The bass has like total different frequencies, so on certain things, it can really roar. It’s kind of cool. It can only work with certain things, you know, but that was a laugh. I really want to try and get into whammy pedals and stuff.

Did you actually use the wah wah on some of the tracks?

No, we tried it on the new record, but it didn’t kind of work out. It was a really cool sound, but it didn’t kind of work out. We found another one that kind of beat that.

You do use a wah wah pedal, though?

Yes.

Isn’t there a wah solo on “Tears Don’t Fall”? Is that you?

Is it the second solo?

I think so.

No, I do the first solo and Matt does the second first half of the solo. I think it was a wah wah on the second half.

You are actually working on a newer album?

Yeah, we’ve actually recorded most of the music and we’ve just got a few little guitar parts to put down and all the vocals.

So The Poison is an old record for you now at this point?

Pretty much, yeah!

Does the new record have a title yet?

Not at the moment. I don’t think any of them have any working titles at all.

Are you working with Colin again?

Yes.

Can you sense that it’s a step forward for the band musically?

Definitely, yeah. I know we’ve only done two, but the confidence on the record really shows through as musicians obviously because it’s only the music that’s done so far. But yeah, we’re really proud of it. We’ve come leaps and bounds, so it’s great to see, to compare. So it’s really cool. It’s a lot more upbeat, up-tempo, a lot more metal songs on there. It’s rockier, so hopefully it won’t disappoint.

You say it’s more metal and rockier than The Poison. How would you describe the music on The Poison?

I would say it was part of a progression. I think we’re still growing as a band. So I think The Poison was a great record, but I think what we all know now is that I’m sure we’re capable of more. It’s not that we dislike The Poison.

You’ve toured with Guns N’ Roses and Metallica. Now you’re playing Wembley?

Yeah.

What is that going to feel like?

We could all probably retire when we get done with that show. Every time that I think about it, I get butterflies and stuff! Just walking out on Wembley Stadium, it’s just crazy.

Did you listen to Metallica and what they were doing as guitar players?

Definitely, yeah. We’re all huge fans of Metallica.

In your mind, what made Metallica so much more special than all the other bands?

Probably the songs. I think in my era, it was kind of the Black album. So I kind of got into Metallica with that album. But yeah, I think it was the songs and just the heaviness of it. It was just like unheard of at the time.

Have you had a chance to sit and talk with any of the guys in Metallica?

Yeah, Lars came into our dressing room on the first Metallica show back last year and introduced himself and kind of had a chat with us all. He was a really cool guy, a nice person. We also saw him in Holland. No! Denmark, it was. He came straight down to us and he was really cool again.

Have you met any of Iron Maiden?

Yeah. They took us out on tour. Yeah, they would pop in by the dressing room regularly. They were really cool guys also.

Did you get to talk guitars or music with them?

We were all probably shaking in our boots at the time because it was Iron Maiden! It was all just like dribbling and stuff!

That has to be pretty meaningful, to play with your heroes.

Yeah. There’s not really words for it, is there? It’s just a total dream come true. How many kids want this dream, you know? I would never disrespect it.

There is something about British and Welsh bands about their approach to music that’s different than the American approach. Do you have any idea why?

I couldn’t put my finger on the exact thing. It’s got to have something to do with the culture and you know what I mean. They listen to the same music, but it’s different ways of life. That’s my only explanation really. They’re drinking different beer! Different brand of beer.

Were you a Judas Priest fan?

No. Moose was more of the Judas Priest. I was more of the Iron Maiden.

In your mind, what made those 2 bands so different?

Honestly, only in the last couple of years I’ve actually started listening to Priest. I never really heard or knew much about them until then. Yeah, it was a really weird thing. It’s quite strange. It’s really baffled me. I never had known much about them.

Did Sabbath, Purple, or Zeppelin do anything for you?

No. It was a bit before my time. Probably more now than anything I appreciate the music back then. I’m getting back into the old stuff. But not at the time. No, I think it was well before my time. That was more like my dad’s stuff.

Are you part of a movement of music that may have the same impact that Maiden did?

I hope so. I don’t want to blow our own trumpets.

Are there any new bands that you’ve heard or been touring with that intrigue you?

Everything seems to have been done in the music industry. It’s really hard to find something that’s original these days. So I don’t know. I wouldn’t say there is much out there at the moment.

My favorite song on the record is “All Things I Hate.” The acoustic guitar is incredible. I do like it when Matt does the clean vocal – it sounds more musical to me and shows me how proficient you guys are as players and songwriters.

We’re just aiming to write classic songs, songs in general that stand out. So we’re always bearing that in mind when we’re writing them.

"We've recorded most of the music for a new album and we've just got a few little guitar parts to put down and all the vocals."

So the fact that a song has an acoustic guitar is cool.

Yeah. Whatever serves a song, you know?

Is that you playing the acoustic guitar?

No, not on “All These Things.”

On “Room 409,” you can hear that you’re de-tuned. Is that a part of what you do?

Yes. On The Poison, I think we used drop tuning on most of it. On all of the songs, I think. I think that’s going to change on the new album. It has changed, definitely.

Are you dropped to a D-tuning?

Yeah. We’re going to be in standard D on the new record.

The last song on the record has a lot of clean guitars. How did you create those?

I think it was just a Boss chorus. It was available and it was right at the end of the session, so we changed studios as well. It might be a Roland Jazz…I’m really not sure. We had to fiddle about and we got a nice tone. I can’t really remember what we used.

Will you be bringing some new guitars to the new record?

Yeah, I think we used ESP on parts. For the majority, it was a Gibson Les Paul Raw Power. We also used Gibson 25th Anniversary 335, which is really, really cool.

What’s that like playing a hollow body versus the ESPs and stuff?

Well, we actually used the clean tones and stuff. It worked out really, really well and it was an awesome tone. Really nice.

Did you use to play a Flying V?

Yeah, I still do. It’s an ESP DV8 Flying V.

Have you always played a V?

Yeah. I’ve always felt comfortable with a V. I just like metal-looking guitars.

Was there anyone you saw using a V specifically?

I don’t recall. I just generally like them ever since I started playing guitar.

What are the plans for the band this year? You’re finishing up the record?

No, we’re about to start a 2-month tour of America. We have our last day of rehearsal today. After that, we go back to the UK to finish what goes on the album.

2007 © Steven Rosen

Comments

[St.Anger666]

Good!:P

[FreedomFighter]

He seems slightly bored with the interview.

But nice one anyway.

[thekingofparis]

I think most people would like to know more about the new album than what this guy thinks about the difference between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.

And please, research before you do the interview and save a lot of time.

[[I Buy Peace]]

Yea he does seem bored with the interview, sounds like he wasn't going in depth with his answers

Hope that there new album is good, sounds promiceing

[Escape_Artists]

Lol Emo-Metal

[Lethal.7]

terrible English...

[metalguy001]

FreedomFighter wrote:

He seems slightly bored with the interview.

But nice one anyway.

haha lol i know what you mean

[Shabalaba]

I think Bullet are pnly going to get bigger, you can tell from the poison that these guys have aot of talent. I just missed on The Poison tour so i can't wait for tis album to come out and go see them

[Shabalaba]

*only

[Pingis_Or_Death]

I bet he hasn't washed his hair in a decade...it looks disgusting

[ckmma]

no offence, but that review could have been a lot better, I mean they have a new album coming out and they talked mostly about the old one... until about half way through he sounded like he didn't notice they are recording one

[doomnight]

Yeah he seems to kinda get a tad pissed off about half the way in... Probably 'cause that was such a long interview... BTW, who from UG actuall interviews all these bands?

[VanPhoeniX]

DUDE!!!People don`t care about his hair .We care about music they play.I he is REALY booooored.

[Bongofdestiny]

They say most of their influence is from maiden? they sound nothing like iron maiden they scream maiden don't, theyr'e emo maiden arent, they sing about women beating iron maiden don't, they have a very high gain guitar sound iron maiden don't, they sing like boys iron maiden sing like men the list goes on - not that i don't like bullet but it had to said

[Ibzman]

Not bad. I saw BFMV on Maiden's last tour and definitely not what I like the most but he was pretty good at playing guitar. Hope their new album is better than the stuff they did.

[LiamIsGod]

Bongofdestiny wrote:

They say most of their influence is from maiden? they sound nothing like iron maiden they scream maiden don't, theyr'e emo maiden arent, they sing about women beating iron maiden don't, they have a very high gain guitar sound iron maiden don't, they sing like boys iron maiden sing like men the list goes on - not that i don't like bullet but it had to said

Bullet For My Valentine aren't an emo band. Listen to Saves The Day.

Where on Earth do they sing about women beating? Get a grip.

Being heavily influenced by someone doesn't mean you need to sound exactly like them, as much as Trivium would have you think otherwise.

[chuckschuldiner]

WO0HOH LAWL L3TZ JU^^PDAFUKUP ON "SOUND LYKE DA 80Z" TR!V!UM BANDWAG0N!!11

[a7xsoad]

LiamIsGod is blatently a legend and the only one in this emo shit-pit who knows what he is talking about

[a7xsoad]

and if they are not an emo band theyre AS GOOD AS EMO in my eyes in other words SCUM and pretty suckish. Yeah Yeah KEEP ON FUCKIN' WISHIN YOULL BRING BACK THE 80's YOU'VE GOT A LONG WAY TO GO BFMV MACHINE HEAD or SLAYER still do a better job of that.

[Nirvana4eva]

completely agree with everything LiamIsGod said, bullet are definetely not emo !!!

[MetalUpUrAss]

I have a feeling their next album is gonna be a really good metal record. The Poison had metal influences as well as punk influences, but if they tune standard D and he says that they progressed, then it will probably be a metal record. Their really talented, so I can't wait to see what comes out of it.

[TeenBite]

Not a metal band. However hard they try to tell people they are, they're not.

I was highly disappointed with their album. The only good songs on it were the few they ported from the EP, and even then they weren't good enough songs to warrant all the scene kids going ape for them.

[uberphreak]

LiamIsGod wrote:

Bullet For My Valentine aren't an emo band. Listen to Saves The Day.

Where on Earth do they sing about women beating? Get a grip.

Being heavily influenced by someone doesn't mean you need to sound exactly like them, as much as Trivium would have you think otherwise.

Yeeah, pretty much. BFMV isn't emo and you can hear the influences when you listen to the harmonized parts.

TeenBite wrote:

Not a metal band. However hard they try to tell people they are, they're not.

I was highly disappointed with their album. The only good songs on it were the few they ported from the EP, and even then they weren't good enough songs to warrant all the scene kids going ape for them.

It isn't just 'scene kids' that like them. What exactly, may I ask, makes them 'not metal'?

[a7xsoad]

SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.

[a7xsoad]

harsh. Blunt. but true.

[corey3815]

Well, i heard Scream, Aim, Fire in Columbus two weeks ago....it kicked ass.

[Deliriumbassist]

a7xsoad wrote:

SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.

If Bullet are emo, then how come they tour with Metallica and Iron Maiden instead of Jimmy Eat World and Saves the Day?

[Dr.Tomahawk]

Deliriumbassist wrote:

a7xsoad wrote:

SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.

If Bullet are emo, then how come they tour with Metallica and Iron Maiden instead of Jimmy Eat World and Saves the Day?

Because they are trying to look all Heavy Metal because its hXc but in reality they are just the latest Kerrang fad. A great portion of thier fan base is young girls who, if you were to ask them what other bands they listen to, would mention the likes of MCR and The Used.

[Deliriumbassist]

[QUOTE=Dr.Tomahawk]Because they are trying to look all Heavy Metal because its hXc but in reality they are just the latest Kerrang fad. A great portion of thier fan base is young girls who, if you were to ask them what other bands they listen to, would mention the likes of MCR and The Used.[/QUOTE]

WTF? I'm not a fan of BFMV. However, it's quite blatant that they AREN'T emo. They may not be NWBHM either. So what if a great portion of the fan base are young girls? A lot of metalheads (like myself) love classical music. Does that make Bach and Beethoven metal? So what if they're a Kerrang fad? That shouldn't take away from the fact that they are talented musicians who are doing well for themselves, and more power to them for it.

The genre a band belongs to isn't dictated by who their fans are.

[rolemodel47]

BFMV rocks!!!! i don't care what people say about them....they are one of my favorite bands!!!

[hells bassist]

not emo but kinda like not hard metal but metal and women beating wtf?

[david_safc]

[quote=a7xsoad]SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.[/quote]
Yeah because avenged sevenfold (a7x) are soo metal...retard. At least bullet dont wear mascara and nail varnish like that faggot synyster gates.

[Dr.Tomahawk]

david_safc wrote:

[quote=a7xsoad]SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.

Yeah because avenged sevenfold (a7x) are soo metal...retard. At least bullet dont wear mascara and nail varnish like that faggot synyster gates.[/quote]
ERM... YES they do.

[badhabit000]

well looks like he gonna be playing in this tuning

low to high D,G,C,F,A,D good thing im use to palying in that tuning from all that remains

[metalhammer79]

Bullet for my Valentine is the future of metal, the have an amazing abillity to write songs

[Dr.Tomahawk]

Deliriumbassist wrote:

[QUOTE=Dr.Tomahawk]Because they are trying to look all Heavy Metal because its hXc but in reality they are just the latest Kerrang fad. A great portion of thier fan base is young girls who, if you were to ask them what other bands they listen to, would mention the likes of MCR and The Used.

WTF? I'm not a fan of BFMV. However, it's quite blatant that they AREN'T emo. They may not be NWBHM either. So what if a great portion of the fan base are young girls? A lot of metalheads (like myself) love classical music. Does that make Bach and Beethoven metal? So what if they're a Kerrang fad? That shouldn't take away from the fact that they are talented musicians who are doing well for themselves, and more power to them for it.

The genre a band belongs to isn't dictated by who their fans are.[/quote]
I never once said they were emo, my point was they were not Heavy Metal as they claim so much to be, they have a lot of pop-iness to them. My comment regarding thier fan base was just meant to draw comparisons between BFMV and any other pop-ish mainsteam Kerrang fad band. Thats all. I like classical music too, i wasnt trying to state that a band is defined by its fan base, however undenyably there are trends.

[VanPhoeniX]

Ok. Tell me one thing.People who doesn`t like BFMW - WTF are you doing here?BFMW is not emo but but and not HEAVY metal band .Just fresh metalcore band.

[Lucifer1805]

I'm a fan of bullet but i'm not overly obsessed with them. Sure their a great band to quite an audience of people,whether the majority being 'scene kids' or people who listen to whatevers the latest kerrang fad. and beating women.seriously I can think of one thing that whoever said that meant which would be hit the floor off the poison. ok,so they may have a verse about beating/raping a woman but that doesn't mean thats what they're about. bullet seriously have some talent and if you can't see that then let people enjoy them at least.its retarded to classify them as emo or any other kind of music because so far all their songs are different. those who don't like BFMV at least appreciate that they're liked by more than just people following fads or 'little girls' or 'scene kids'

[Walkin'Basser]

" Yeah. We’re going to be in standard D on the new record."

I loled

[last_biscuit]

Walkin'Basser wrote:

" Yeah. We’re going to be in standard D on the new record."

I loled

I fail to see what you laughed at there.

[last_biscuit]

^^In case you're confused by what I just said, standard D means DGCFAD, whereas drop D is DADGBE and drop C is CGCFAD. So his answer made complete sense and you laughed at a perfectly normal thing...

[Noverion]

Dr.Tomahawk wrote:

Deliriumbassist wrote:

a7xsoad wrote:

SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.

If Bullet are emo, then how come they tour with Metallica and Iron Maiden instead of Jimmy Eat World and Saves the Day?
Because they are trying to look all Heavy Metal because its hXc but in reality they are just the latest Kerrang fad. A great portion of thier fan base is young girls who, if you were to ask them what other bands they listen to, would mention the likes of MCR and The Used.

you think they chose to play wiht metallica? you dont just say "yeah i feel like supporting metallica, ring em up and tell me we are", metallica chose them to play wiht htem and have said they liked them alot in interviews and stuff, obviously kirk and james are "young girls who, if you were to ask them what the other bands they listen to, would mention the like of MCR and The Used".

while there not metal there not emo either, theyre like, . i dunno i lableed them as hardcore/metal/emo on itunes, i think that as close as i can see really, at least the make it work decently though, pretty decnet band, could be better though.

[ready2breakdown]

1. WTF does it matter who listens to their music. They're doing it for them, and not the "scene." The scene accepted them. They didnt jump any bandwagons, they were one of the few pioneers for what they do.
2. HOW MANY EMO BANDS HAVE YOU SEEN TOUR WITH METALLICA AND G'N'R? I'm just curious.
3. Can't wait to hear the new stuff. The Poison was excellent when it was good and mediocre went it wasn't, so I'm sorta split about how the next ones gonna be. I guess time will tell.

[ready2breakdown]

and wtf does it matter what genre they are? It metalheads that bitch so much about genres that make metal pointless. NEVER in music has their been a genre with so many exceptions to its rules and definitions for it should be, yet when ever its a band that YOU dont like, YOU deem it as not metal. They are from the UK, so obviously their perception of pop music and other genres is totally different than the US.

To my the poppy side of them is more 80's glam and hair metal than pop itself. But WTF does it matter, they make music they wanna hear, so deal with it. And I know they're gonna be huge with bands like metallica and gnr backing them, its a fact.

[burn the stars]

Emo is a genre of rock music. Since its inception, emo has come to describe several independent variations of music, linked loosely but with common ancestry. As such, use of the term has been the subject of much debate.

In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the Washington, DC music scene of the mid-1980s. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the DC scene and some of the regional scenes that spawned from it. The term emo was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and strongly emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and, slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the term emo began to reflect the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason put forth a more indie rock style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic in nature than its predecessor. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles.


now that ive given you all a lesson, maybe youll stop bitch about things you know nothing about.

[Sweetooth24]

most of you guys comments are so stupid and are just made up to cause a rise. Who cares what they are considered. I'm not even a big fan of them but they deserve respect. They are a pretty succesful band and I highly doubt any of these people that talk mess about random bands in forums have room to talk. You all probably have crappy bands in your moms basements

[greendayguitar]

I have a question?

Who cares if they're emo, or metal, or metalcore, or faggots, or whatever? If you like the music, just listen to it. Who cares about the label. There's no need to argue over it. They are a little emo, yes. Are they an emo band? No. Give it up already. This is as bad as people arguing about Green Day using no more than 4 power chords.

It's music, and personal opinion. Stop arguing, and just listen to it if you want to.

[sp0ckr0cks]

They aren't emo and the matter is settled, but i do think they are AWESOME.

[the1]

Does the interviewer even know who they are?? He didn't do his research! BFMV rock though, and Padge is awesome. You may not like the music, but they are seriously talented for young guys.

[Teufel]

badhabit000 wrote:

teuful

u an go phuk urself u dumb shit ass crack


bfmv arent faggots like ur fall out boy band shit face

Really? Wow, they sure retain that "certain" sound.

[наppy наиds]

who the hell cares if you say they ain't metal?

get a life. it's good music

[наppy наиds]

yeah, what greendayguitar said

[Cied Shredder]

badhabit000 wrote:

teuful

u an go phuk urself u dumb shit ass crack


bfmv arent faggots like ur fall out boy band shit face

Yay for kindergarten grammar skills and making yourself look like an idiot!

For real though, I'm kind of excited about the new album. I didn't really like the first one a whole lot but from what he's said it looks like they've got a lot to go on.

[youllcallmedadd]

thekingofparis wrote:

I think most people would like to know more about the new album than what this guy thinks about the difference between Judas Priest and Iron Maiden.

And please, research before you do the interview and save a lot of time.

for sure

[Steriogramrules]

FAAARK i cant wait for this album...loved the poison and their EP....and true they should ask more about the album...like WHEN IT MIGHT BE COMING OUT SO I'M NOT BROKE AT THE TIME

[Steriogramrules]

btw what the hell is the difference between a heavy metal band and a "metalcore" band? WTF just call it rock or metal

[xx619xx]

metalcore is i think a sub-genre of emo =\

[zerodeck]

burn the stars wrote:

Emo is a genre of rock music. Since its inception, emo has come to describe several independent variations of music, linked loosely but with common ancestry. As such, use of the term has been the subject of much debate.

In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the Washington, DC music scene of the mid-1980s. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the DC scene and some of the regional scenes that spawned from it. The term emo was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and strongly emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and, slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the term emo began to reflect the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason put forth a more indie rock style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic in nature than its predecessor. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles.


now that ive given you all a lesson, maybe youll stop bitch about things you know nothing about.

lol funny to see an agitated emo, everyone can see the difference between emo and good music, sorry to say buddy, but I don't accept emo music in the rock or metal category, have fun listening to it, I know I won't

Steriogramrules wrote:

btw what the hell is the difference between a heavy metal band and a "metalcore" band? WTF just call it rock or metal

yup too many terms, I agree, every band has it's own sound (except the emo-ones, never could hold the difference between panic at the disco! and fall out boy lol, and then that change of pace/from first till last shit, god I hate the time when I had the one emo-girlfriend after the next) so it's dull to give them each their own name, just call it: rock, metal or punk, then it's enough for me

Can you sense that it’s a step forward for the band musically?

Lol, what a dumb interviewer, as if Paget is going to say: No, we're totally going backwards to the years when we had even less talent.

What were you after musically as a band?

Just a balls-out British heavy metal band. I know we still have Iron Maiden and they’re around today, but we hadn’t had a good British band for a while. We kind of flew the colors really.

The guy finds himself the best British metalband sinds Maiden? god I think I'm going to puke. What about Motörhead, Venom, Def Leppard, Blitzkrieg,...
I dislike this guy now even more

[Walkin'Basser]

last_biscuit wrote:

^^In case you're confused by what I just said, standard D means DGCFAD, whereas drop D is DADGBE and drop C is CGCFAD. So his answer made complete sense and you laughed at a perfectly normal thing...

heh sorry about that.
I thought he meant that the standard tuning of a guitar is with a low D =P

[v2kv]

burn the stars wrote:

Emo is a genre of rock music. Since its inception, emo has come to describe several independent variations of music, linked loosely but with common ancestry. As such, use of the term has been the subject of much debate.

In its original incarnation, the term emo was used to describe a subgenre of hardcore punk which originated in the Washington, DC music scene of the mid-1980s. In later years, the term emocore, short for "emotional hardcore", was also used to describe the DC scene and some of the regional scenes that spawned from it. The term emo was derived from the fact that, on occasion, members of a band would become spontaneously and strongly emotional during performances. The most recognizable names of the period included Rites of Spring, Embrace, One Last Wish, Beefeater, Gray Matter, Fire Party, and, slightly later, Moss Icon. The first wave of emo began to fade after the breakups of most of the involved bands in the early 1990s.

Starting in the mid-1990s, the term emo began to reflect the indie scene that followed the influences of Fugazi, which itself was an offshoot of the first wave of emo. Bands including Sunny Day Real Estate and Texas Is the Reason put forth a more indie rock style of emo, more melodic and less chaotic in nature than its predecessor. The so-called "indie emo" scene survived until the late 1990s, as many of the bands either disbanded or shifted to mainstream styles.


now that ive given you all a lesson, maybe youll stop bitch about things you know nothing about.

Dude, you didn't teach anyone a lesson, you just went on wikipedia, looked up emo, and copied and pasted it into your reply. I dunno, maybe you could have explained it well in your own words, but instead you've made yourself look just as bad as any of these idiots who think emo is Fallout Boy and MCR, and who think BFMV is good...

plagiarism = bad!!

[TooFast]

I know we still have Iron Maiden and they’re around today, but we hadn’t had a good British band for a while.

Judas Priest anyone?

[Septerra]

This guy is a moron.

[burn the stars]

never said i wrote it= not plagiarism.

[Punk2Guitar]

God , they're not emo. (altho I think they could have made some lyrics less cheesy... like Suffocating under words of sorrow)

But the riffs are great , nice catchy solo's.

If you compare these guys to the 'hot' emo bands and you think they're the same. quit playing guitar plz? if you can't notice anything different about the music instead of the fans.

Hell I actually know quite some emo-girls that listen to Pantera, metallica etc. Now...we should call them freakin' emo bands too? judging a band by who listens to them is just so stupid.

[Seth Shadows]

D Standard huh?. before they were Drop C. Nice change.
D Standard > All.

Anyway. this seems like a good record. Ill buy it.

[alliwant]

I really like BFMV but I hate anyone who cries about genres and stuff *cough*metalheads*cough*. If you don't like it, don't listen to it but don't slag off other people for liking it. Where's the love?

Pff, you guys make me sick.

[Logan_B]

wow the guy cant remember what stuff he used on his songs. Must not be very into whats goin on

[Logan_B]

Hell I actually know quite some emo-girls that listen to Pantera, metallica etc. Now...we should call them freakin' emo bands too? judging a band by who listens to them is just so stupid.


Oh well its not such a loss cuz Pantera and Metallica really arent as good as everybody says. Like....2 minute intros in Metallica....COME ON

[under the heel]

why does it matter?

Being emo does not have any thing to do with the music you play.

You can't make fun of them if you can't do better, and i seriously doubt you can play better than Synister. Fag or not.

[guitarhero230]

new albums gonna be awesome thru and thru and who cares about genres either, i think the whole genre system is retarded its getting so friggin specific that by next year every band will have their own genre and the whole system will fall apart (exaggeration)

[leftintheashes]

I agree with Guitarhero230. every band has their own sound. Why do we even have to label them as a certin genre?

[misfitchik666]

greendayguitar and alliwant > RIGHT ON!! who cares what the label is? if you like it then so be it! i love bfmv n so do aload of my friends- i also like a selection of other music [misfits being 1 band]
also agree with guitarhero230

[The Eyebrow]

metal has branched out so much, yet many people think that they aren't a metal band because BFMV have included "emo" lyrics and whatnot. and like it was said before: metallica, the gods of metal, chose Bullet to play on their tour. Total Guitar said that BFMV would be the next metallica, if Trivium hadn't already taken the title.

'nuff said.

[epicold]

i dont give a crap waht anyone says, the rythm parts matt does are what got my into Bullet. Page is also great on his screaming parts and solos, great stuff im looking forard to a more oldschool album,

[zerodeck]

The Eyebrow wrote:

metal has branched out so much, yet many people think that they aren't a metal band because BFMV have included "emo" lyrics and whatnot. and like it was said before: metallica, the gods of metal, chose Bullet to play on their tour. Total Guitar said that BFMV would be the next metallica, if Trivium hadn't already taken the title.

'nuff said.

the answer is simple: BFMV is popular so metallica chooses them to play with them on their tour so the could get a bit popularity back, for example:

2 years ago Metallica had to play TW Classic, no they can play Rock Werchter back (TW Classic is just Rock Werchter version for older people)

under the heel wrote:

why does it matter?

Being emo does not have any thing to do with the music you play.

You can't make fun of them if you can't do better, and i seriously doubt you can play better than Synister. Fag or not.

1) I know tons of people that play better then Synister, seriously I do
2) emo has everything to do with music, how would you else explain emokids listening all to the same music?

alliwant wrote:

I really like BFMV but I hate anyone who cries about genres and stuff *cough*metalheads*cough*. If you don't like it, don't listen to it but don't slag off other people for liking it. Where's the love?

Pff, you guys make me sick.

Metalhead are the last to say something about genres, and besides, ever heard of freedom of speech? if I hate something, I say it

Where's the love? Bush used it to bomb iraq you bloody hippie (hate bush myself, but also hate hippies:p)

burn the stars wrote:

never said i wrote it= not plagiarism.

yet you also didn't mentioned you didn't write it yourself

Greetz,
zerodeck

But to sum things up: there are those who like emo, those who like BFMV (sometimes those people are also emo), those who hate emo and those who hate BFMV (I belong to the last 2)

[The Eyebrow]

so you're saying that BFMV are more popular than metallica? hmmmm....

listen, i have better things to do with my time than argue with self-obsessed arrogant people, which this page is full of. it's people like this, jumping at the chance to slag of a band and its fanbase, that has made the UG community unfriendly, make that very hostile, and has driven away many a good tabber. instead of forcing your views on others about a band, why not try discussing the (few) good points about them you like, or something like that. I don't care anymore. i'mnot gonna read anything on this page again, so there's no point in telling me how "gay" i am.

[zerodeck]

never said they were more popular, Metallica just added them to their tour to work on their image

and you can call me arrogant or self-obsessed or whatever, I just like to discuss bands, no harm in that, the UG community is critic and that's important these days with the loads of crappy bands, don't just accept everything you hear, have some criticism of your own I say, saying that UG is very hostile is like saying Jimi Hendrix was not the greatest and most innovative guitar player in the world: a ridicilous thing to say

we never drove any good tabber away, check: 130 new tabs on may 26th

and if you seriously want to be called gay, go walk in the local mall wearing only a thong and a rubber ball in your mouth, that should do the trick

[bananasislegend]

if BFMV is emo, would that constitute maiden as indie?

because thats what people seem to be implementing

[bananasislegend]

Seth Shadows wrote:

D Standard huh?. before they were Drop C. Nice change.
D Standard > All.

Anyway. this seems like a good record. Ill buy it.

d standard is dgcfad
drop c is cgcfad
would that really change them from hardcore to metal(or howver else you would choose to label them)?

[muuso_'tarist]

I agree with The Eyebrow. this kind of talk does make it unfriendly, its all attacking others because of their taste in music. Zerodeck, i agree that yes you do have freedom of speech, but personally i think that you are abusing the right by being so degrading and almost descriminatory of other's taste in music. and as i happen to fall in the 'young girl' category i would like to make it known that i think the used and MCR are mainstream. personally not my thing, im into stuff like killswitch engage, a7x, BCE,Trivium and stuff not the used and mcr. please try not to generalize, its insulting. BMFV rock and that is my oppinion. feel free to privatly disagree.

[LucasGtrGod]

hmm i think their music is okay, but the singer's really annoying, slightly gay, very emo (when he sings he does sound just like many other emo singers) voice is what turns me off

[TheFearWithin]

i prefer stuff like trivium to bullet, bullet always occured to me as a more girlie band,
i saw a video of them live and most of the crowd were teenage girls
whereas trivium have more moshing material
i'll probably get slagged off but who cares

[joe295159]

emo...does their emo lyrics affect their metal riff anyway? cause u can't denied that most of their riff are metal

[guitarhero230]

TheFearWithin wrote:

i prefer stuff like trivium to bullet, bullet always occured to me as a more girlie band,
i saw a video of them live and most of the crowd were teenage girls
whereas trivium have more moshing material
i'll probably get slagged off but who cares

go to google videos and search either bullet live at graspop or wall of death

[epicold]

even if its metal, having shitty things like "im so alone" , and other god awful emotional crap just crud up the music. it'll turn a heavy riff into a sappy typical piece of emo scream-art (paget's screaming still rocks though),
NO control was ok, because it had few emo moments and more crunchy riffs that emo lyrics could of dirtied.
(talking about emo forced me to use three different words for poop[4] because thats what it is nowadays)why cant that just fade out alredy?

[Paperwings12]

Why do u make such a big deal if a band is emo i mean calm down.Why do people hate emo's???.Gawd,...
but Rise Against still bets all,4sure.

Stop ****ing arguing.

Checked/De-Spammed.

[genresrforposer]

Dr.Tomahawk wrote:

Deliriumbassist wrote:

a7xsoad wrote:

SORRY IT WAS BONGOFDESTINY who was correct..... LiamIsGod is obviously not god he cant define the similarites between EMO and Bullet HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You call them metal but they are hardly metallica are they. Just overgrown emos thts wht they are.

If Bullet are emo, then how come they tour with Metallica and Iron Maiden instead of Jimmy Eat World and Saves the Day?
Because they are trying to look all Heavy Metal because its hXc but in reality they are just the latest Kerrang fad. A great portion of thier fan base is young girls who, if you were to ask them what other bands they listen to, would mention the likes of MCR and The Used.

God I love the irony of that argument.

"Girls love 'em, they must be total FAGGOTS!"

I have no real opinion on BFMV's genre. I can see where the emo label is coming from given "Tears Don't Fall"'s lyrics (they are somewhat nauseating) but I do like their guitar solos so meh.

[Jawshuwa]

LiamIsGod wrote:

Bongofdestiny wrote:

They say most of their influence is from maiden? they sound nothing like iron maiden they scream maiden don't, theyr'e emo maiden arent, they sing about women beating iron maiden don't, they have a very high gain guitar sound iron maiden don't, they sing like boys iron maiden sing like men the list goes on - not that i don't like bullet but it had to said


Bullet For My Valentine aren't an emo band. Listen to Saves The Day.

Where on Earth do they sing about women beating? Get a grip.

Being heavily influenced by someone doesn't mean you need to sound exactly like them, as much as Trivium would have you think otherwise.

"Room 409" touches on woman beating; girlfriend cheats on guy, guy goes manic on girlfriend and guy she screwed around with. Something like that.

I had something else to say, but after reading all of the comments, I just chuckled to myself.

[Waterboy799]

they're a pretty good band, their lyrics are a bit on the emoish side, but that's ok, they still make some good music

[Set-Abominae]

Somebody give this man an award for his multiple facial expressions.

[Orc]

Set-Abominae wrote:

Somebody give this man an award for his multiple facial expressions.

Trudat

[ReeseKillsHIV]

Everyone talking about emo: you have probably never listened to actual emo music, and you hate it because it's cool to hate.

Stop being d-bags, kthx...
And this band is metalcore, with some thrashy riffs,NOT emo at all. I really like them, can't wait for the new record.

[Gorilla Fingers]

Really don't dig them or bands like Avenged Sevenfold...I dunno why, its something about the music that just doesn't have that soul. Its something I gotta find in the music I listen to...a sense of not just talent or a catchy riff/beat but a sense that whats goin' on is actually a reflection of the person.

[zerodeck]

ReeseKillsHIV wrote:

Everyone talking about emo: you have probably never listened to actual emo music, and you hate it because it's cool to hate.

Stop being d-bags, kthx...
And this band is metalcore, with some thrashy riffs,NOT emo at all. I really like them, can't wait for the new record.

we KNOW the bands not emo so please stop saying it, terribly anoying, read the whole thread before you post, and please, I listened to emo too much and still not like it (had 3 emo girlfriends) bands like Panic! Change of Pace, Red Jumpsuit Apparetus, Fall Out Boy, From First To Last,... that shit, there's a reason why so many people hate it, and I hate emo's (after dumping that last emo chick) give me the real guitars!

[zerodeck]

muuso_'tarist wrote:

I agree with The Eyebrow. this kind of talk does make it unfriendly, its all attacking others because of their taste in music. Zerodeck, i agree that yes you do have freedom of speech, but personally i think that you are abusing the right by being so degrading and almost descriminatory of other's taste in music. and as i happen to fall in the 'young girl' category i would like to make it known that i think the used and MCR are mainstream. personally not my thing, im into stuff like killswitch engage, a7x, BCE,Trivium and stuff not the used and mcr. please try not to generalize, its insulting. BMFV rock and that is my oppinion. feel free to privatly disagree.

Why do it privatly? thats the good thing of new media, you can say things to all the world (or at least people who live far from you lol)
and whats that crap about generalizing? you just generalized by calling mcr and the used mainstream (which I don't disagree)
and I'm not discriminating, can't help it I hate emo and if people are discussing emo, I give my opinion, I also hate r&b, rap, techno, pop,... (actually everything except classic music, jazz, blues, rock 'n roll, rock, punk and GOOD metal)

[Lucifer1805]

OK.Loads of people commenting on here criticising the band and ok,they've got a right to dislike whoever the hell they want. If you dislike it so much though,think for one second dammit. Why waste time moaning about bands you don't like to people who like them instead of,i don't know,possibly enjoying the music you wanna listen to and talking to people who share the same kinda music. I'm one of those guys who just gets p***** off with twats whining about how crap a band is. NOBODY MAKES YOU LISTEN TO THEM. Piss off somewhere else where people might appreciate your opinion instead of just getting pissed at you for slagging them off when to be fair,your complaining about how crap a band are when they're making money doing what they enjoy and travelling around the world sharing that. Seriously,got a better job than going places and sharing your talent with the world then tell me that cus seriously,people like Zerodeck (not just you,your just the one I mainly remember cus of your longass comments that are replies to other people) you're wasting time moaning about opinions not facts. Not everyones gonna like bullet,not everyones gonna buy their next album but more people are gonna consider accepting their music than accepting your negative opinion where all you do is bitch about what you don't find appealing. Why bother even going on an interview,reading it and everyones comments and then wasting more time moaning,get a ****ing life man. I haven't read all comments but most of it involves whining about someone slagging them off. Thats fair,someone slags something off you like you defend it cus thats human nature but damn,starting an argument to get people to hate you. Its just pathetic. Anyone reading this who talks shit about Bullet For My Valentine and their fans on a comments page ABOUT them is retarded. I know some smartarse is gonna come back at this with something to do with proof of their intelligence or skill or whatever. Truth is,I don't care,you're all people on a website,a minority being losers who spend most of their time bitching to people they don't know personally about music. Probably mentioned this already but ending with a question. Those of you who have said negative things about BFMV or the fans such as people saying they are crap.Why bother going onto an interview about a band you already dislike? Thats all I want an answer to. Thats my rant over for now but seriously,some of you whinging R'tards need to grow the **** up.

[SpeedCacophony]

wow, if you actually LIKE this 'music', you're all idiots. ABSOLUTE IDIIOOOOOTTTTTSSS. this is not even metal, not even close to music. People declare them as "shredders", christ, i'm a bassist and i can shred and sweep faster than them(although i am pretty damn fast, OH YEAH!) It is absolutely souless. Try listening to classical music, which makes you beg the question: will these guys be understood and appreciated in 2-300 yrs time? NO. They're not exactly "emo", whatever that generalisation means; which i abhor, but they're not exactly talented either. But "we all have a right to freedom of speech", which sucks 'cos it lets people like me be arrogant to IDIOTS like you lot. Ah well... i'm probably going to get banned after this anyhow.

[The_Man_IV]

Stepping to the Next Level?? I hope that means Suicide

your allrdy past the Cutting and all that EmO Shit..

[gsr2k6]

Lol saying if you like a certain kind of music your a idiot actually makes you the idiot. I dont even like this band, I think any band like them is kind of pathetic but to each his own.

[6sic6_blank]

I'm not a big fan with the lyrical content they use. Though I'll give them credit for being skilled musicians. But like in Suffocating Under Words of Sorrow, I just feel as if it's been said before, and a common thing in lyrics... To sum it up, it doesn't appeal to me.

[ShredGuitar9]

How ordinary was that interview, not on micheals behalf, but on the behalf of the interviewer.

Arent interviews surposed to be the interviewers asking the interviewees? about their latest album/tour. Not making dumb comments about their view of the band, (which noone cares about by the way) getting their facts mixed up and making comments about the band (not asking questions) which leads to the person being interviewed HAVING to take the interviewers opinion, or it would have lead to an awkward situation in which the interviewer would look like a real c**k. He didnt even ask when the album is coming out or anything.

On another note, cant wait til their new album comes out and they tour in Australia. Sounds Great.

[SynysteR7]

If someone can reply to this with a thread on UG where not one person shits on what the topic is about, I will mail you $200.

Why don't you all shut the hell up and commit suicide. Some say they suck some say they don't. They're opinions, shut up.

[zerodeck]

you say we each have our own opinion but we have to shut up? still trying to deny yourself the band is s*cky?

[guitarguy421]

MACHINE FUCKING HEAD!!!!

[duke2446]

man they are amazing i saw them live with all that remains it was one of the best shows of my life

[rusrec00]

whats funny about this whole thread is that it started with an intelligent conversation about how unexcited the guy sounded and then it turned into a retardfest about metal by people who dont even qualify to open for BMV. Seriously guys metal, emo, thrash, punk, SKA....who gives a F. lets all be glad that solos are back and harmonies on dual guitars...These guys are good, and I expect they will get better. lets praise them for keeping hard fast aggressive music where it belongs...in the foreground. I spent way too many painful years listening to pop and rap, so I dont care what you call it jsut make sure its loud and fast.

[falconxev]

I second that rus.

[katazuki]

as long as they dont stop the solos and the screaming im happy.

[DanOfTheNorth]

He doesent remember what pedals he used or anything. its like he isnt even in the band. how can you be in a band and not know every thing about your music. anyway the interview was boring as hell. but bfmv rules. all you fags that say they suck are just jelous because you suck.

[KenMasters]

Why interview someone like him? i would cheerfully punch him in the face. in addition to that, he seems quite lost in the interview. Amateur born, amateur remains. listen to some real music, guys!

[tbarrettl]

katazuki wrote:

as long as they dont stop the solos and the screaming im happy.

Yeah the "The Poison" song is quite impressive and I really like the Solos and the Drumming is good for a Debut album's song.
The rest of the LP shows promise also.

[fauker13]

these dudes kick ass theyre awsome keep up the solos

[james@1]

emo means emotional so isnt all music ? p.s i love metal

[dio_dude]

I dont see the next album being any different to this one. I like the fact that they are trying to bring back 80's metal, thats cool, but with their whiny blink 182 voice it'll be hard. there hearts are in the right place but their vocal chords are up shit creek.

[boyan89]

cant wait to hear it boys and dio_dude its not whiny theres songs on the album about Ripping A Bully Apart and Going To War and i dont think there is gonna be any more melodic romance themes as the guys evens said! anyways cant wait for it The Poison was a classic!

[Habs]

Im not a fan of BFMV but they have very good songs and they arent emo or whatever .. Im tired of people saying ooh they arent metal they suck blah blah.. Look at CANNIBAL CORPSE they are so "TRUE METAL", they sing about killing,raping and all that shit and his singer is a ****ing nerd and a retard that plays World of Warcraft all day and acts like a fucing 8 year old boy talking about Pokemon.. give me a break.