Fall Out Boy's Joe Trohman: 'My Best Thing Is Putting On The Best Live Show'

With an ever-growing myriad of music awards and platinum records to their credit, Fall Out Boy persistently delivers their brand of melodic punk rock to elated audiences worldwide. Joe Trohman, guitarist for the popular Chicago based band, subsists for the live experience. Known for his energetic stage antics, especially his signature spin known as “Trohmania”, his number one goal is to get out there and put on the best live show possible. The recently released CD/DVD “Fall Out Boy - Live In Phoenix” is temporarily appeasing fans while the band uses the summer of 2008 to record their next studio album.

Below is Brian D. Holland's recent conversation with Joe Trohman, in which he talks about everything concerning himself and the band. He talks enthusiastically about the new Joe Trohman signature Washburn WI26 guitar as well.

Brian D. Holland: “Live In Phoenix” was released on April 1st. That’s a CD and a DVD, Joe?

Joe Trohman: Yes, it’s a CD and DVD. The DVD has the show and some extra footage on it. It was recorded at one show on the Honda Civic tour in Phoenix. We actually made sure we played really well that day. [Laughing]

Joe, in 2005, “From Under the Cork Tree” went on to platinum status, selling more than 2.5 million albums in the US alone. In February, 2007, the band released “Infinity On High” to major chart success. It reached number 1 on the Billboard top 200, selling 260,000 copies the first week. The first single, “This Ain’t A Scene, It’s an Arms Race”, reached number 1 on the Pop 100 and number 2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Has the fame fully sunken in yet?

It’s weird. I think it’s different for all of us. With Pete, and some of the things he’s chosen to do, he’s definitely made himself more of a bonafide, all-around celebrity, which is cool, but totally his thing. For everyone who grew up with him, including myself and the rest of the band, we all knew he was destined to be that kind of dude. Patrick gets bugged a lot, honestly, because he’s the front man of the band. It’s impossible not to. I’ve noticed it a lot lately when I’ve been going out. But I just don’t go out a lot.

That was going to be my next question. Do you miss the privacy and the freedom you once had?

I definitely miss it to an extent. But I’ll tell you exactly how it is. For me, the things I do to entertain myself outside of the house revolve around people who, although they might listen to Fall Out Boy, are not of the age where they know what all four of us look like, our stats and stuff. I think that would happen more often if I went to malls and stuff like that. The other day I went to a Japanese restaurant and then to Target, and I got bugged. But just last night, I went to a jazz bar. Nobody bugged me there. So it all depends upon where I go to hang out. It’s never that bad. Honestly, most people are like super cool, and they’ll just come up to me and shake hands, and that’ll be it. But it rarely gets out of control.

How’s the relationship with Island Records going?

That’s a loaded question. Let’s just say that we’re able to keep a lot of things within our control, which I think is very important. That’s the type of band we are. We build ourselves up, so we’re never going to relinquish control, or too much control. The labels are taking a beating, or beating themselves. You’ll see some wild changes soon. I think we all will. But things have been alright for us. Things are going fine.

I had heard that you were involved in an acting routine recently, for a movie or something.

Yeah. We did this kind of all-star cast comedy thing. There were a lot of cameos. One of our friends, Seth Green, kind of got us in this movie. They were looking for us to be in it, and then Seth was like, “Well, I know those guys. So I’ll hit ‘em up.” He asked us, and we were like “Totally.” We had some improv lines with Seth, and now we’ll see what gets cut up and used. We did some performance scenes, which was pretty much like taping a music video and playing to a track. I had a lot of fun; I love hanging out with Seth. He’s such a rad guy, and we just sat around drinking beers. It was a good time. It could be a really funny movie. It’s based around the scenario of Amish children, and when they reach a certain age. They’re given the opportunity to go out and experience the world, to see if they want to be Amish. That’s what it’s based around. The script said “Untitled Teen Road Movie”, so, we’ll know the title when everyone else does.

What were the circumstances that got you into playing guitar?

It was probably the same stuff that gets every person into playing. When I was a kid, my parents got me into piano, viola, and trombone. They were the three instruments I went through. The moment I started playing trombone, which was the last one before guitar, I knew I wanted to play guitar really badly. I was a huge Metallica fan, and I’m really into Slash. I’ve always thought he was the coolest dude, and like the greatest guitar player. He’s awesome, and I love the fact that he did everything himself. He made the world of guitar fit around him, rather than him fitting around the world of guitar, which I think is really cool. I think I remember watching that Metallica “Live Shit – Binge and Purge” box set. My grandmother bought it for me. I remember watching that and thinking, yeah, that’s what I want to do. My grandpa gave me this old beat up guitar, and I started playing that. My dad gave me the opportunity to play the guitar if I was really serious about it, so he bought me a guitar and an amp made by Barkley. The combination was about 100 bucks. That’s how I started really, when I was about nine or ten.

I noticed that in the song “Thriller”, you do get into kind of a thrash metal sound.

Yeah, the chugs and triplets. Andy used to be in this metal band called Race Traitor. It was a cool band. They had a part like that. Patrick told Andy that we should use that, so he did kind of a bastardized version of it. You could kind of say that Andy wrote the part originally, in this weird way.

But so many different styles of music have influenced us individually and as a band. I think heavy metal is there. It’s not always the most predominant factor in Fall Out Boy, but it’s definitely there. Andy and I are huge metal heads.

"If people want to call us emo, that's totally cool."

Do you consider Fall Out Boy’s style to be emo, or do you want to stay clear of that?

That’s another loaded question. None of us are pissed about it. If there’s a conception of that then it’s a misconception. It’s weird, but when I was getting into punk rock and hardcore when I was younger, emo was like Fugazi. It was these weird bands that were almost like post hardcore or post punk bands. Many were really political. Emo had to do with how they would vocalize, not the way in which it refers to our music. If people want to call us emo, that’s totally cool. We started out as a pop punk band, because we were very much interested in giving the band a sound like Green Day or The Descendents, but I think we’ve turned into a rock band. Some of our lyrics are definitely emotional, but some Zeppelin lyrics are pretty emotional, too. You could call them an emo band as well. [Laughing]

There are too many subgenres in music these days. They tend to confuse more than anything else.

And it ruins things for people, because if it has that tag on it, regardless if it sounds like that or not they’ll never go and find out what it really sounds like. To be labeled [quote unquote] “emo” is sometimes very apropos, because there are a bunch of bands that actually sound like carbon copies of each other. But again, that’s music, so.

Talk a minute about recording. What’s your process for recording guitar in the studio?

For our last two records, one of the big things we’d do is go to a place where we could go through a bunch of cool gear, like a lot of cool heads. We’d grab some cool guitars, old Les Pauls, some Telecasters. We use this cool guitar called a Giffen a lot. We used the Washburn on the last record, one of my custom Idols. It just sounded great.

We usually do drums; we get them out of the way. Then we’ll start on some bass and some rhythm guitar. Patrick and I will trade off on rhythm and lead. It’s never a conscious thing; it’s just whoever is playing what. So I’ll play the rhythm on a certain song, and Patrick will lay down his stuff afterward. Or vice versa; he’ll lay down the rhythm and I’ll come in and do the lead. For me, it’s always a relatively quick process, usually a week or two and I’m totally done with everything I need to do. It’ song by song, I guess.

Talk about the writing process.

It started out pretty messed up like any band. Most of the music is written by Patrick. I write a lot on my own, and I’ll send a lot of it to Patrick, which he’ll use in songs that work. Pete writes the majority of the lyrics. Once Patrick kind of gets what he needs between himself, me, and Pete lyrically, we’ll bring it to the band for record pre-production. Then we’ll hash out the songs as a band.

That’s pretty good. It’s like a whole group process.

Yeah. It’s definitely a group process. The thing that fucks up bands a lot is when everybody wants to do everything. We were never like: You’re designated this position and you’re designated that. We’ve designated ourselves certain general positions, like I write a tiny bit, but my best thing is getting out there and putting on the best live show possible. That’s been my number one goal personally. You can’t judge a band until you see them live really. Sometimes it makes people love bands they hated.

Patrick’s a very prolific writer. He’s a one-of-a-kind kind of guy. You’ve got to let him do his thing. You don’t want to get too up in his grill, sort of speak. He always wants me to write little parts and riffs and then email them to him. That’s where the technology comes into play. I do a lot of garage band recording and then send him what I really like; even some stuff I might not like as much, the reason being that he might like it more than I do.

Is there a particular comfort zone on the guitar you like to stay in, maybe for vocal range, any particular keys?

I’ve tried to make myself comfortable with most of the fretboard as possible. I like pentatonic scales because I’ve always been a big Tony Iommi fan. I play along with those a lot. I grew up playing a lot of heavy metal; I’m probably better at that than playing Fall Out Boy. [Laughing] It’s definitely where my comfort lies. I’ve tried to make myself someone who can play a decent variety of stuff. I’ve even made myself learn things that I didn’t want to learn, a kind of picking or playing that I just never would’ve gotten into otherwise. It’s made me an all-around better player.

What started your signature onstage spin, known as “Trohmania”? Does it get tiresome after a while?

Yeah. [Laughing] That’s what the kids started calling it. It’s totally a great workout, for a guy who never works out. I’ve always been going pretty nuts onstage. After the first couple of Fall Out Boy albums I kind of figured out what I wanted to do and started going nuts. There’s a lot of spaz inside of me. I know people don’t want to see it throughout the day, so I figure, why not unleash it all onstage. That’s what I do. I think the spin thing came from watching other people kind of do their versions prior to that. I kind of put my own, without the pun, “spin” on it. It just turned into my own thing. A lot of people think I’m spinning around twice as many times as I actually am, or twice as fast as I feel like I am. I like that people like it. It got to the point where people like it so much that I try not to do it too many times throughout a set so I won’t tire it out.

Do you ever get dizzy from it?

Sometimes. But it has gotten to the point where I think I know how to position my head with my body. I then follow my movements so I don’t get dizzy. I used to get really dizzy, and land pretty weird sometimes. I don’t know; I try to throw that in with a lot of jumping off of things and flailing my body around.

"… my best thing is getting out there and putting on the best live show possible. That's been my number one goal personally."

Do you use a remote system on the guitar when doing that?

Yeah. I use a wireless. We’re all on wireless units. I used to use a cable, but it was a nightmare. Someone who worked for the band would have to come out and unwrap the cable as fast as possible in the middle of the songs.

I read something last year about the use of animals; the orangutans, monkeys, and chimps in the video “Thanks fr th Mmrs”. Did the animal rights group have that all wrong?

Yeah. They were making a big thing out of nothing. First off, those chimps and orangutans get treated better than the ones in zoos. They’re loved, and they’re taken care of much better and cleaned much better. And they’re only allowed to work a certain amount of time every day. Plus, we had someone from Animal Protection there the entire time, making sure everything was cool. It’s really weird that people got pissed off about that. Those animals were treated quite well, probably better than most humans, and definitely better than animals in the zoo.

Our fanclub in New Zealand adopted a kiwi bird and named it after me. I really wanted to go to the Auckland zoo to visit it, but they blacklisted me because of our video. I was like, “What the fuck is your problem? You keep animals inside a cage.”

Our drummer is vegan and a peta supporter. We’re all animal lovers, so we’d never hurt an animal.

Talk about touring, the good points about it and the bad.

Good points, well, I love playing the shows. That’s why we do it, and it’s satisfying pretty much every night. I love trailing out in a group that’s like family. It’s like a weird troop of carnies. We’re really weird guys. We only make sense to each other, and it’s fun. When you tour for like six or seven years straight, it gets daunting after a while. You end up missing home, the normal scene, structure. You miss being in the same place every day. I think that’s more or less what it is. I don’t mind traveling on the bus so much because I sleep really well on the bunks, but flying and staying in hotels really sucks. You get sick all of the time, and you know hotels, they either blast the air conditioning or there’s no air conditioning. You get one or the other.

I was reading this interview of Tony Iommi, I think in Guitar World or something. I don’t really remember. But he was talking about the same thing. He said, “I love playing shows, but I hate all the flying and staying in hotels.” It’s like the worst part.

Talk about hobbies or leisure time activities. Are there things fans might be unaware of that you like to do, maybe when you’re not playing guitar?

Some of it I keep under wraps, because it’s stuff that I do want to unleash eventually. Definitely some side music stuff, though it’s totally for fun right now. It’s been kind of a secondary outlet that will never take precedents over Fall Out Boy. I also like to cook. I’ve been really getting into cooking, actually trying to cook properly, and properly prepare meals. Things like that. I’ve been drawing ever since I was a kid, so I do a lot of that. I always consider buying a canvas and doing some acrylic paintings, but I never get around to doing it. I put myself out there a lot, so a lot of the kids that do my blog kind of know what I’m into.

Where have the best audiences been for Fall Out Boy so far, where you’ve garnered the most acceptance, the liveliest as well?

Yeah, totally! Obviously, Chicago’s great. I can’t discount Chicago; that’s number one right there. Second to that, New York City has been good. It’s always been a great place for us. There are so many places here in the states that are awesome. Southern California has always been pretty cool. Boston has been awesome, too. All our east coast shows have been incredible. Australia, surprisingly, is amazing! The acceptance we’ve gotten over there is just awesome. Our level of success over there has been huge, and the crowds are amazing. New Zealand has been similar. They’re almost a little crazier that the Aussies. Japan’s really cool. We did a show in Moscow last year that was incredible. We did a European festival run last year, and every show was just amazing. By the time we hit stage the crowds were huge. It was the first time Fall Out Boy had done the festival thing, hitting Germany, Austria, playing all the different festivals. The reception was amazing. And it was cool, because I got to watch Dinosaur Jr. every night, because we did all those shows with them. I love J Mascis. He’s such a good guitar player.

Let’s talk a bit about gear, and your signature Washburn guitar. I know you once played a Les Paul as well, and a Telecaster ’63 Relic.

I did play a ’63 Relic. Before people cared about FOB I played a lot of Les Pauls and Les Paul Juniors.

Now you’re endorsed by Washburn. You actually play a few different ones. You have your signature, the WI26. How is that?

I love it. I played a lot of Washburns because it took a while to put this one together. I wanted something that was going to be a real quality guitar, something that would look and sound nice, but wouldn’t cost too much money. You know those Les Pauls and SGs that they made that were like 5 or 600 dollars? I have one of those upstairs. I wanted something like that. It’s the type of guitar I feel a beginner could buy, too, and not feel weird about buying it.

I saw a price tag of about $420 dollars. Is that right?

Yeah.

"Andy and I are huge metal heads."

That’s pretty good.

It’s great! It’s a set [maple] neck guitar, so it’s one piece. It has the custom pearl [keyhole] inlays. The pickups are awesome, the WB630s [high-output humbuckers]. It gets cool distortion, very similar to a Duncan.

And it has the VCC (voice control contour) coil-splitting system.

Yeah. You can actually get some use out of the tone knob, which is actually a pretty cool thing. I’ve been using it more and more lately when playing live, especially because I A/B between a Bogner Uberschall and an Orange Rockerverb. They’re both really cool, but completely different tones. So it’s cool to throw that tone volume down when I’m on the Orange, but to boost it back up to get that humbucker sound again.

So, you can easily go between the sound of a loud humbucker and a single coil pickup with that guitar.

Absolutely. And it’s cool. It’s not like a half assed piece of technology. It works. You know, I didn’t want to have too much electronics going on, but I thought that would be a really nice feature. And if you don’t want that, you don’t have to do it. You can go in and disable the tone knobs if you know how to do that. You can also use it as I developed it, kind of like a road dog guitar. You can play it live and it’ll do what it needs to do, and there’s no frills. And it looks nice. I kind of based it on two guitars of two different colors. The black one is based on a ’69 Les Paul Custom that I have, and the white one is based on a Studio that I have.

The signature Washburn is a basswood body?

Yes.

Lightweight?

It’s pretty light, yeah. If you’ve noticed the custom shop Idols, they’re pretty thick bodies, and pretty heavy. So I wanted something with a thin body, yet without compromising the tone. I think we were able to achieve that because there’s definitely no compromising going on. Even when we’re traveling, and we have to use rental gear, I plug this guitar in and it sounds just as good as any other guitar. I’m actually really happy with it. I didn’t know at first how people’s reactions would be, because it’s a very simple guitar. But I think people appreciate the simplicity, and I think it looks good aesthetically. And it feels real nice when you play it. I’ve gotten great feedback from people, especially when I was at NAMM. I did signings and interviews there, and I saw some press of my guitar, and it was really positive. I’m very pleased that people are able to see the same things that I see.

What’s on the horizon for you and Fall Out Boy?

This summer we’ll be getting into pre-production for a new record. As you know, we have the live DVD out. We’ll be doing some one-off shows here and there, but nothing tour wise, as of yet. As I had said, I have some side music that in some point in time in the future, maybe we’ll release it or maybe we won’t. So I’m not telling anyone to keep a look out or hold their breath. But if they see it, don’t be surprised. But for FOB, working on a new record is pretty much it. We have tons of new demos, and they sound awesome. That’s what we’re all focused on doing right now.

Would you like to say anything to your fans?

Our fans rule! I hope they’re alright with being a little more patient, because I think it’ll be worth the wait. And as far as my guitar goes, people will soon be able to go out and check it out, and perhaps buy it if they want. I should be doing some promos and stuff at places. Our fans can look out for that; I’ll do some signings, maybe some clinics as well. Also, if they want to get a hold of the guitar beforehand, they can go to my website: empireoftherepublic.com for preorders.

Interview by Brian D. Holland
Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2008

Joe Trohman Signature Washburn WI26: Photo1, Photo2

Live in Phoenix on Amazon

Fall Out Boy website

Empire Of The Republic website

Comments

[randyaintdead82]

ha, i didnt know this guy liked cool stuff like metallica and gnr. if he ever does side project he should make a thrash metal band, that would be sick. im not into fob so he better get going on it.

[blajano]

I used to hate this band because of the emo style, cause you know, they look emo. But that Beat it cover is just great xD

[Its_Rock77]

wow, already a bunch of idiots who don't know what they're talking about.

It's kinda cool that Joe almost knows what real emo is. and hopefully, he'll have a more prominent guitar sound on the next album.

[stradivari310]

Wow, this guy is cool. That was really a great interview. I can't wait to hear whatever they come up with next!

[lazlow325i]

great interview.

[JordantheAxe]

Immature kids are going to be posting retarded comments, I can see it coming.

[bowdowntomono]

Wow. Good interview.
I wonder what the emo-haters are going to find in there to throw at Fall Out Boy.
Just let them get on with their music. Some of us like them.

[michal23]

I like it how everyone has a name except for the drummer xD

[Led_Zeppelin992]

People are giving away signature guitars far too easily these days.

[mathieupM13]

I used to hate Fall out boy but lately i've been listening to a lot of their music and they are a very good band

Awesome interview

[Fritz621]

^ lol i kinda think hes getting screwed if he played metal and now hes playing this... its like if tiger woods went and played putt putt golf lol

[cakeandpiemofo]

Good interview nice to know someone besides Pete Wentz can talk in Fall Out Boy.

[phobiafreak949]

Whitby_Wizard wrote:

how dare he compare zep to emo trash

as soon as i read that in the article, i predicted a million responses like this one ^^

all he was saying is that if people are going to label a band as "emo" based just on emo lyrics, then led zeppelin could have been emo. he wasnt calling zep emo, he picked the least emo band he could think of just to further prove his point. im not a FOB fan, but this seems pretty cool

[phobiafreak949]

^ this guy** ^

[Cutlass_253]

I'm not a huge fall out boy hater, but I can't stand his tone. Its just so weird and stringy, to me it sounds like he's playing on rubber bands half the time. I think it was more pronouced on their older albums, but I just remember listening to them and thinking "wow, it sounds like this guys playing a rubber band guitar with the overdrive cranked."

[Prince Albert]

JordantheAxe wrote:

Immature kids are going to be posting retarded comments, I can see it coming.

exactly

[GoodCharloteSux]

Seems like a really nice guy, I never had a problem with this band. People like to having bands they can pick on because of their poppy sound. Fall Out Boy actually are great musicians. They just understand the point of melody. I'm not a fan but, I respect them.

[CrabSoldier X]

i think if it wasnt for the singer sounding like a retarded vacuum and pete wentz being the biggest fag and disgrace to bassists on the earth, fall out boy would be a decent band. this guy and the drummer should just split and form their own gig.

[Freebird79]

Prince Albert wrote:

JordantheAxe wrote:

Immature kids are going to be posting retarded comments, I can see it coming.


exactly

meh

[mchugh92]

this guy seems a bit more mature than wentz, dont get me wrong, i hate fob, but the only reason i hate their music is cos a talentless tool like pete is a part of it, he cant play bass, simple, when you watch him live its as if he is playin a completely different song to the others, he plays the right notes yeah, but he rarely stays in time, and his strumming technique is messed up, the rest on the other hand have some talent, stump is a pretty good singer, joe seems like a better guitarist than he lets on, and andy is a pretty good drummer, they should kick pete out and get a BASSIST, not someone who has nothing going for him except his good looks, and their lyrics are very cheesy, but i suppose thats pop rock for you =/

[AAAAAAAAAARGH]

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my.

[flea878]

Im not a huge FOB fan (and i think Pete Wentz is an attention seeking boob who relies on looking pretty rather than a real ability to play bass), but the guitarist in this interview just seemed like a genuinely nice guy who had no delusions about their style, just fairly modest really.

[Shabalaba]

I still dont like FOB but this guy seems like a down to earth nice guy

[SOUPerman432321]

wow, this is the only fob artical i have ever seen without the whole thing being a bunch of kids who listen to disturbed and think they listen to metal bashing on emo.
i like disturbed but thats not metal, not even close. but anyways srry but i love fall out boy, their songs are really catchy. I mean of course i dont listen to them for their musical skill, but they have good songs.

[Mr. President]

Thrash metal on thriller? What are they smoking? The song is nothing of thrash.

[Bailean]

AAAAARGH wrote:

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my.

You have to admit slash is a great guitarist plus there really can't be a greatest guitar player in my opinion its all preference. Joe seems like a nice guy i'd like to hear an album recorded with a Les Paul.=)

[Bailean]

From fall out boy i mean
obviously

[ordinary_story]

So has he kissed Pete Wentz or not??

[duncang]

Great guy.

Great band.

[WhyLater]

Focus on live shows? Really?

I mean, I can stand Fallout Boy's albums. But they were at Voodoofest last year when I went, and man... it was the worst live performance of any band anywhere ever. And it's not like, oh, things didn't go well. It's like they didn't care, they've sold millions of albums, why should they try at this show?

I guess that was more Wentz and Patrick, though. If this guy's worried about live shows, well, he's not in the best company. They make me sick.

[kaizerkhan13]

mchugh92 wrote:

this guy seems a bit more mature than wentz, dont get me wrong, i hate fob, but the only reason i hate their music is cos a talentless tool like pete is a part of it, he cant play bass, simple, when you watch him live its as if he is playin a completely different song to the others, he plays the right notes yeah, but he rarely stays in time, and his strumming technique is messed up, the rest on the other hand have some talent, stump is a pretty good singer, joe seems like a better guitarist than he lets on, and andy is a pretty good drummer, they should kick pete out and get a BASSIST, not someone who has nothing going for him except his good looks, and their lyrics are very cheesy, but i suppose thats pop rock for you =/

well said. i dnt really hate fob, theyre just not my thing lol. at least they seem pretty cool

[mikko_9119]

FOB is cool... lately i've been losing interest in them since IOH came out, but i hope he does start a side project.... that would be awesome

[sirregj]

mhhh he seems alright...maybe if he actually played lead once in awhile i would respect him (watch any live video. pat is playn lead -- WHILE get this singing main vocals) and joe is just bein a tard spazin all over the stage/im sure he has talent,but he sure as hell dont show it. -_____-

[thedude97]

I saw a live performance on MTV. This guy was terrible.

[BrainScan]

FOB is cool if you're like 15. Other than that, they're really thin live and I've seen them on two different tours. I don't think the guys in the band are *******s or anything like that, I just think they're way overrated.

[JRowe3388]

I have some respect for Joe and Andy. Pop rock isnt my thing, but they do a good job as far as pop music goes. Their cover of Beat It was good.

[Pliant]

I respect him.

[--ATREYUROCK--]

Ha. Sell Out Boy 'punk'
They used to be alright...

Joe is cool tho
Didn't know he was a metalhead

Wentz is a bit of an arsehole...

[DaveGilmour1189]

--ATREYUROCK-- wrote:

Didn't know he was a metalhead

alright i don't want to flame fallout boy. But liking post-Black Album Metallica doesn't make you a metalhead.

[slann101]

DaveGilmour1189 wrote:

--ATREYUROCK-- wrote:

Didn't know he was a metalhead



alright i don't want to flame fallout boy. But liking post-Black Album Metallica doesn't make you a metalhead.

im not stnading up for him but....neither does liking pre black album metallica.

[axefreak129]

im starting to think i only hate FOB because of pete wentz. this guy seems okay, and i cant help loving some of those crazy falsettos the singer does.

[pyritmann]

from under the cork tree actually had some good songs, that were a bit punk, but IOH was just absolute crap pop. disgusting

[ApeOfJustice]

Not a fan of Fall Out Boy at all but this guy sounds pretty cool. Pretty level headed and seems to have a well rounded music taste (from listening to Metallica and Sabbath to hanging out in jazz bars).

[thegrungyhippie]

I really don't like fallout boy, but this guy is cool.

[punk_mike_88]

"Some of our lyrics are definitely emotional, but some Zeppelin lyrics are pretty emotional, too. You could call them an emo band as well."

He's got a good point. If emo means emotional, doesn't that mean everything is emo since music is suppose to express emotion? Anyways, good stuff, never would've suspected him to like Metallica or GNR or anything like that.

[samerika]

this guy is cool, i used to be a big fan a few years ago, i still went to see them the other day.

[jokefeat]

This one's great, there's more people defending fob than atacking it as they usually do.
FOB is a good band, ZEP is da bomb tough

[eetfuk58]

seems like a decent guy but i still dont think he can play guitar worth a flip.

[ripjoestrummer]

BrainScan wrote:

FOB is cool if you're like 15. Other than that, they're really thin live and I've seen them on two different tours. I don't think the guys in the band are *****s or anything like that, I just think they're way overrated.

Not necessarily true, fall out boy sucks in my opinion, and I'm 15. Very emo sounding and they can all suck my dick for all I care. On the other hand, this guy seemed alright.

[SL!!!]

punk_mike_88 wrote:

"Some of our lyrics are definitely emotional, but some Zeppelin lyrics are pretty emotional, too. You could call them an emo band as well."

He's got a good point. If emo means emotional, doesn't that mean everything is emo since music is suppose to express emotion? Anyways, good stuff, never would've suspected him to like Metallica or GNR or anything like that.

Yeah...it used to be a cool branch of punk, sort of a response to the hardcore punk break-off, but now since the term has hit mainstream it's just gotten ridiculous. ... And i'm surprised this hasn't turned into a flame-war about Fall Out Boy, that' kind of a nice change. Haha.

[Anlino]

Fallout boy ain't really my kind of music, but this guy seems quite alright and down to earth for someone who was reached that kind of success.

[cLA172]

JordantheAxe wrote:

Immature kids are going to be posting retarded comments, I can see it coming.

Immature musician are going to post retarded comments

[GnikNus]

axefreak129 wrote:

im starting to think i only hate FOB because of pete wentz. this guy seems okay, and i cant help loving some of those crazy falsettos the singer does.

this

[gu1tar4lyf3]

its cool to see another side of FOB, this guy seems more real than pat and pete...i hope some of his influences show through next time they write

[Draken]

I like fall out boy they make music that's nice, simple and fun...what more could you want? Joe does seem nicely down to earth.

[Aziraphale]

Seems like a very cool guy. I actually enjoy FOB, I don't have any of their music but they've made some catchy tunes. People have always been hating on pop artists, trying to be all non-conformist and rebellious and whatever, but judging from the comments here maybe people have finally gotten a bit fed up with all the pointless FOB-flaming.

[tragic82]

im not a fan of fob, but he seems ok. to everyone expressing incredulity that trohman is into heavy-ish bands, pete wentz used to be in a metalcore band... doesn't stop him being a bit of a tool tho...

[Lefty7Stringer]

Bailean wrote:

AAAAARGH wrote:

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my. You have to admit slash is a great guitarist plus there really can't be a greatest guitar player in my opinion its all preference. Joe seems like a nice guy i'd like to hear an album recorded with a Les Paul.=)

no i don't have to admit, he plays catchy lines that arent hard at ALL.

[kmceric1004]

and 'puttin on best live shows'..ur in a wrong sorta band, bud

[Lefty7Stringer]

the greatest guitar player.

this guys really funny, great joke joe

[samm12]

okay, i;m not gonna diss this guy, because he seems pretty cool, but i hate fall out boy. they just suck. this guy doesn't, but he gets no chance to shine, so i've never really been able to isolate a spot where he is just going good. they should have him do some solos, or at least a solo on a song.

[duncang]

kmceric1004 wrote:

'andy and i are huge metal heads' lol giv me a bloody break..wat a massive bs he givs.. FOB is one of the most mainstream-tainted biproduct of sellout crap dat ive heard in my musician life. his quote rite there sickens me, as a real metalhead. if u were rly a metalhead, u wud've quit dat sellout biproduct band ages ago. wat a bser..

I'm not even gonna bother with this.

[AngerIsAGift06]

i disagree with calling a band by a genre if that genre hadn't been invented in their heyday.

[Gus Pablo]

I have no problems with Joe Trohman at all. He's a pretty talented guy, as are most of the rest of his band. If the fellow on bass decided to take some actual lessons instead of relying on his looks and his connections, I'm sure the result wouldn't be a half-bad band.

[mikko_9119]

Draken wrote:

I like fall out boy they make music that's nice, simple and fun...what more could you want? Joe does seem nicely down to earth.

i agree with this

[littlebigjames]

I like fall out boy they make music that's nice, simple and fun...what more could you want? Joe does seem nicely down to earth.

+1

[Eklund]

"Not compromising the tone"? And he chose a basswood body?

[F8iscruel]

i just had a thought about wentz... hes the same as sid vicious
i absolutly hate FoB, i think panic at the discos alright tho

[SamRidings]

faggot

[fagelamusgtr]

I never really liked FOB, but I have to admit, he and Andy are pretty cool. And believe it or not, Andy is a sick drummer.

[Shread_6009]

i hate pete wentz, cause he does nothing good to the band, but this guy and the drummer sound pretty cool. its fgunny how pete wentz is milking the emo label for all its worth, but the rest are avoiding it at all costs.

[Shread_6009]

BTW FOB as a whole is garbage

[philjay]

EVERYTHING IS COOL.

This guy sucks at interviews lol

[Kingsway96]

Whitby_Wizard wrote:

how dare he compare zep to emo trash

it was a joke stupid

[shut_up_n00b]

kmceric1004 wrote:

'andy and i are huge metal heads' lol giv me a bloody break..wat a massive bs he givs.. FOB is one of the most mainstream-tainted biproduct of sellout crap dat ive heard in my musician life. his quote rite there sickens me, as a real metalhead. if u were rly a metalhead, u wud've quit dat sellout biproduct band ages ago. wat a bser..

You have to be a tool to call yourself a metalhead really. And if you have to quit your band because it's getting some success, then I guess Led Zeppelin should've broken up when they became semi famous.

[MusicalMinority]

Fall Out Boy fan? Not by a long shot. I hate them.

This dude? Doesn't seem too bad. Friendly, knows his music, and is very down to earth and reasonable.

[recliner33]

I'm not a fan of fall out boy one bit, but at least he has alot of good influences. I'm a big Tony Iommi and Dinosaur Jr. fan myself. It's just too bad that I don't see any good influences in fall out boys music. Maybe I would like his music more if he did a side project or something without patrick stump or pete wentz.

[nathantayloryes]

there isnt as many people attacking fall out boy in this article as there usually is, thats good.

[ChikiChikiwa]

Isn't it weird how people in these comments changed they're opinion on this guy just because he listens to metal?

Cool interview. *thumb up*

[!normajean!]

im not into their music and i cant stand pete wentz but this guy actually seems like a cool dude. he's not a douchebag like pete.

[NorfIrIon]

ChikiChikiwa wrote:

Isn't it weird how people in these comments changed they're opinion on this guy just because he listens to metal?

Cool interview. *thumb up*

One's choice in music usually says alot about them.

[disturbedidiot]

kmceric1004 :
'andy and i are huge metal heads' lol giv me a bloody break..wat a massive bs he givs.. FOB is one of the most mainstream-tainted biproduct of sellout crap dat ive heard in my musician life. his quote rite there sickens me, as a real metalhead. if u were rly a metalhead, u wud've quit dat sellout biproduct band ages ago. wat a bser..

really dude.i checked out ur profile.far from metalhead dude.....

[Black Revolver]

Freebird79 wrote:

"You could call Led Zeppelin emo" Well...I guess you could call Fall Out Boy a steaming pile of cat shit

AHAHHA

[RainyMonday]

I don't know why everyone is so crazy about pete. I've always thought Joe was better looking. =)

[Its_Rock77]

why didn't they use a current picture of "beast man joe."

or did he get his caveman hair cut?

[whitebluesboy]

kmceric1004 wrote:

'andy and i are huge metal heads' lol giv me a bloody break..wat a massive bs he givs.. FOB is one of the most mainstream-tainted biproduct of sellout crap dat ive heard in my musician life. his quote rite there sickens me, as a real metalhead. if u were rly a metalhead, u wud've quit dat sellout biproduct band ages ago. wat a bser..

Actually dude they all used to be in hardcore bands and their drummer did some fill-ins for Earth Crisis. But I gess slipknot n all da other favourit bands u listen to are WAY mor hevy than dat. Get wif it.

[whitebluesboy]

I don't know why everyone here as such a masculinity complex and uses every excuse they can to be an e-thug and hate on a band that plays simple, fun, and yeah even pretty catchy songs. You know practically half of you classic rock nostalgists and thrash metal wannabes would trade places with him in a heart beat. So don't hate him cuss you ain't him.

[Gsh]

mchugh92 wrote:

this guy seems a bit more mature than wentz, dont get me wrong, i hate fob, but the only reason i hate their music is cos a talentless tool like pete is a part of it, he cant play bass, simple, when you watch him live its as if he is playin a completely different song to the others, he plays the right notes yeah, but he rarely stays in time, and his strumming technique is messed up, the rest on the other hand have some talent, stump is a pretty good singer, joe seems like a better guitarist than he lets on, and andy is a pretty good drummer, they should kick pete out and get a BASSIST, not someone who has nothing going for him except his good looks, and their lyrics are very cheesy, but i suppose thats pop rock for you =/

For a guy who hates Fall Out Boy you sure know a lot about them.
Listen people;
If you like a band that everyone loves to hate don't be embarrassed. OWN IT. Be an individual.
If you don't like a particular band don't listen to their music. Don't disrespect others who do like it.

[ApeOfJustice]

I WISH I COULD SPIN ON STAGE THEN MAYBE ONE DAY I TOO WILL BE FAMOUS

[Dithindious]

Does UG post stuff about Fall Out Boy just to watch the comments turn into flame wars just for the laughs? I would HATE to moderate anything like this. That being said this ones turned out ok. Maybe people are maturing to the point where internet arguments no longer get them off...

[Callum89]

ApeOfJustice wrote:

I WISH I COULD SPIN ON STAGE THEN MAYBE ONE DAY I TOO WILL BE FAMOUS

I lol'd

[mikko_9119]

Dithindious wrote:

Does UG post stuff about Fall Out Boy just to watch the comments turn into flame wars just for the laughs? I would HATE to moderate anything like this. That being said this ones turned out ok. Maybe people are maturing to the point where internet arguments no longer get them off...

i think it would be fun haha

[SleepyHollow]

he seems like an alright kinda guy. shame he plays in a lame band hahahahahahaa

[MustangMan311]

Really great band. Great pop music, seem like nice dudes, minus Wentz. I enjoy them.

[whosamerica]

Greg_2390 wrote:

Freebird79 wrote:

"You could call Led Zeppelin emo" Well...I guess you could call Fall Out Boy a steaming pile of cat shit

LMFAO, too true.

Terrible, terrible shit. Terrible musicians, terrible lyrics, terrible rythem, terrible music.

yep. cuz you're world renowned and famous right?

[whosamerica]

at least he gives credits where its due. fugazi and the descendants are where pop punk started.

[justine0393]

alucardmik wrote:

i hate pete wentz so. so. so. so much.

so do we lol

this guy seems humble for me..

nice interview gj

[SOUPerman432321]

kmceric1004 wrote:

'andy and i are huge metal heads' lol giv me a bloody break..wat a massive bs he givs.. FOB is one of the most mainstream-tainted biproduct of sellout crap dat ive heard in my musician life. his quote rite there sickens me, as a real metalhead. if u were rly a metalhead, u wud've quit dat sellout biproduct band ages ago. wat a bser..

i might be wrong, but i dont think you know shit about metal. have you ever heard of municipal waste,sea of treachery, or gravewatcher? What about parkway drive, your from their country right? You think because you have all that remains and shadows fall on your profile you are metal, not saying those arent metal bands but you have slipknot as your picture, slipknot blows, theyre like the FOB of 'metal'. Im not trying to claim i know a lot about metal,i dont, but stop being a ****ing close minded retard, i listen to music, not a specific genre, just music, if i thinks its good ill listen to it. Also another friendly word of advice, using lyk dis and wif doesn't save a whole lot of time, and it just makes you look like a douchebag.

[Megallica666]

meh i dont like Fall out boy, but Trohman seems like a good guy

[Havenspear]

Seems like a pretty down to earth dude. At least he knows what emo is...I wish he was the spokesman, so much more...not Pete Wentz?

[guitarnoobie]

I've heard Trohman improvises a lot during the live concerts. I have a feeling that FOB doesn't really want to play this music but they do it because it makes money.

[devinbryndel]

disturbedidiot wrote:

kmceric1004 :
'andy and i are huge metal heads' lol giv me a bloody break..wat a massive bs he givs.. FOB is one of the most mainstream-tainted biproduct of sellout crap dat ive heard in my musician life. his quote rite there sickens me, as a real metalhead. if u were rly a metalhead, u wud've quit dat sellout biproduct band ages ago. wat a bser..

really dude.i checked out ur profile.far from metalhead dude.....

How does them being mainstream effect the music they listen to? loser

[Avedas]

He said "triplets"....

*MASSIVE FACEPALM*

Checked.

[Regression]

Lefty7Stringer wrote:

Bailean wrote:

AAAAARGH wrote:

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my. You have to admit slash is a great guitarist plus there really can't be a greatest guitar player in my opinion its all preference. Joe seems like a nice guy i'd like to hear an album recorded with a Les Paul.=)


no i don't have to admit, he plays catchy lines that arent hard at ALL.

lol wut. I know Slash isn't incredible technically, but I'd like to see you play the solo for Paradise City, if it isn't hard at all, then I'm sure you won't make any mistakes.

I'm surprised there has been very little flaming. I don't think UG realises/realised that pretty much all the band were in pretty heavy bands before Fall Out Boy and that Joe introduced himself to Patrick after hearing him talking about Neurosis. Yeah they have decent taste in music.

[Track-Runner]

"Our fanclub in New Zealand adopted a kiwi bird and named it after me. I really wanted to go to the Auckland zoo to visit it, but they blacklisted me because of our video. I was like, “What the **** is your problem? You keep animals inside a cage.”"

Lol, i didn't know that.
theres like barely any of those birds left, why the frick did they name one after him?

He's a good guy though, people need to stop bad mouthing Fall Out Boy.
Classic case of penis envy really...

[SchitzoJoe]

Thank God for this interview.

Now people can stop hating on FOB so much. I was expected loads of immature, retarded comments, but man, UGers aren't that close-minded.

[BGrem261]

He looks like Frodo... anyways he seems like a cool guy... now Pete Wentz... how did he get a sig bass...

[Neon D-von]

I know people have already said this a bunch but I still can't get over the fact that people aren't hardcore bashing FOB for about the first time, on UG, in history. That's awesome though. I have all of FOB's albums and they really are a good band. I think listening to their older stuff made me respect them a lot more, they really are pretty talented...except for Pete. I'm not gonna lie, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree that Pete is a tool lol If he is a good bassist, he hides it well. He's also the only reason that anyone associates them with being emo as well. They would do well to get a new bassist. That might cause them to lose their 14 year old girl fan base but it would work wonders for their "musicians who appreciate legitimate, good music" fan base (which would be the group I put myself in).

[StewieGriffin93]

F8iscruel wrote:

i just had a thought about wentz... hes the same as sid vicious
i absolutly hate FoB, i think panic at the discos alright tho

lol i was thinking the same thing...
"kind of like that guy from the sex pistols!"
haha.

[W0576680]

Whitby_Wizard wrote:

how dare he compare zep to emo trash

Fail.

[inspire007]

fob..... ZZzzzzzZzzzz

[Aziraphale]

SpellCaster wrote:

I think that this guy Joe Trohman should not be allowed to play guitar, he is an embarrassment to all guitarist. The guitar is made to play more than just continuous power and octave chords over the course of 3 minute songs with lyrics that lack basic logic and theme. It saddens me to see such people even touching the guitar and more importantly saying the names of such great people as Slash and Tomy Iommi and saying those people are their idols while lacking basic knowledge of their work. I really hope that Joe Trohman would put his guitar on eBay, find a nice and quiet place away from society and blow his head off with the biggest gun he could ever find.

Snoore....

[okaykiddo]

SpellCaster wrote:

I think that this guy Joe Trohman should not be allowed to play guitar, he is an embarrassment to all guitarist. The guitar is made to play more than just continuous power and octave chords over the course of 3 minute songs with lyrics that lack basic logic and theme.

What the ****. What right do you have to judge if a person should play guitar or how they play the guitar? Music is subjective and so is the guitar playing associated with it, get ****ed f00l.

[Pingis_Or_Death]

randyaintdead82 wrote:

ha, i didnt know this guy liked cool stuff like metallica and gnr. if he ever does side project he should make a thrash metal band, that would be sick. im not into fob so he better get going on it.

LOL, agreed.

[NielsWho]

Nice interview

[Joelbassman]

I registered just to post on this thread.

The_Raven...seriously. Who gave you the right to decie who is worthy to be deemed a guitarist or not? it's completely ironic that you're embarassing yourself and your so called 'true guitarist'.

I personally am a bassist and play a lot of guitar. I know the major and minor scales and their respective modes. Do I ever use them no? So stfu about theory that most people with even a little bit of talent don't need to write a decent song.

I agree with anyone who thanked UG for this thread. Finally Joe said hat a lot of us had wanted to sayall along. As for labels/genres, I'd abolish them if I could, they just cause too much frustration and confusion. Instead of talking about then listening to music, how about we reverse it, we'd all experience a lot more music.

Haha if I had a dollar for every time someone posted 'down to earth'. I'd be richer than all of FOB put together. But totally agreed.

[hugh20]

The_Raven wrote:

okaykiddo wrote:

SpellCaster wrote:

I think that this guy Joe Trohman should not be allowed to play guitar, he is an embarrassment to all guitarist. The guitar is made to play more than just continuous power and octave chords over the course of 3 minute songs with lyrics that lack basic logic and theme.


What the ****. What right do you have to judge if a person should play guitar or how they play the guitar? Music is subjective and so is the guitar playing associated with it, get ****ed f00l.

lol total fail, u cant just play guitar to be a guitarist

he IS a complete embarrasment to all true guitarists of the universe. and damn right, fifth and 8th chords arent frking enough in any guitarists vocabulary. whats that? he doesnt even know the major scale? IM NOT SUPRISED!

You don't have to play guitar well to be good, you can be crap but talented and write catchy, fun tunes or riffs.

[Henkdemachtige]

@ joelbassman last part. LOL that was funny

@ the people who say joe isnt a guitarist.

Please think before you post he isnt a gutiarist, i don´t see you guys playing in a band in front of thousands of people do i? Also you dont need thos scales and stuff to make songs. And not everything needs to be Metal, there are people who like other style of music made by just powerchords. By the way, alot of metal is powerchords to so don´t go: Ooh metal 4 lyphe n pwrchrds fr us we pleh only kewl 1337 gitahr stff.

[SlashNX]

not trying to be funny... but i find it surprising that although fall out boy seems to be on every tv screen and magazine cover... i still dont recognise his face... i guess if its not pete or the singer.. i just dont recognise them.

[KingSquall802]

great guy, too bad he's on FOB.
FOb sucks.

[stradivari310]

guitarnoobie wrote:

I've heard Trohman improvises a lot during the live concerts. I have a feeling that FOB doesn't really want to play this music but they do it because it makes money.

This is actually true.. both him and Patrick improvise often during their live shows.

[gabehutch]

JordantheAxe wrote:

Immature kids are going to be posting retarded comments, I can see it coming.

immature kids are fallout boys demographic

[wildchild6660]

Not that I've got a problem with FoB or anything but calling then Pop Punk is stupid. They're most definitely emo.

[food&liquor]

This guy doesn't seem that bad. I don't respect him purely because he likes metal or whatever, but because he just seems real about what people think about them and what Fall Out Boy are all about. Not that I love FOB. I don't hate them though. Man this comment is pointless and going nowhere.

Yeah.

[raoulruby]

i don't know how people can say they have sold out? they're style has been consistent pretty much for all 4 of there records, but i forget with some people if a band has success then they have sold out. how stupid. And they clearly do have talent otherwise they would not be selling records. But fare enough Wentz is a bloody crap bass player.

[morello_man]

Welcome to moron country. I'm a thrash and death metal kid and FOB are awesome. Open your minds people.

[duncang]

The_Raven wrote:

okaykiddo wrote:

SpellCaster wrote:

I think that this guy Joe Trohman should not be allowed to play guitar, he is an embarrassment to all guitarist. The guitar is made to play more than just continuous power and octave chords over the course of 3 minute songs with lyrics that lack basic logic and theme.


What the ****. What right do you have to judge if a person should play guitar or how they play the guitar? Music is subjective and so is the guitar playing associated with it, get ****ed f00l.

lol total fail, u cant just play guitar to be a guitarist

he IS a complete embarrasment to all true guitarists of the universe. and damn right, fifth and 8th chords arent frking enough in any guitarists vocabulary. whats that? he doesnt even know the major scale? IM NOT SUPRISED!

What's an '8th' chord?

[stradivari310]

wildchild6660 wrote:

Not that I've got a problem with FoB or anything but calling then Pop Punk is stupid. They're most definitely emo.

Emo no longer exists in the same form that it originated from. FOB isn't one of the bands (Rite of Spring, Fugazi, Sunny Day Real Estate), nor is it directly influenced by them. So obviously they aren't emo.

[TjGk]

Seems like a pretty cool guy. Still can't stand their music, but he's alright.

[la5ley]

I've never really understood how you can do all these sub group classifications. I don't think they are emo, so they have lyrics that are considered "emotional". well isnt that really how all music is based, no one calls metallica emo, but they have some songs such as St. Anger that seem pretty emotional, and im not tryin to diss metallica i love them.. anyways.. Ive seen fall out boy in concert and they do rock out their show is awesome and joe thorman is really good and has great stage presence i recommend them. He does seem pretty cool

[FenderMaster]

Does anyone actually know what emo is these days?

[mikko_9119]

Surprised this is still on the main page

[Kapalen]

Oh also, just because you have a consistent sound doesn't mean you haven't sold out. It just means you've always been a sellout, which is a type of person not an act, that would be they "soldout".

[icedmaple]

Someone else who registered just to comment...


Troh really is as down to earth and articulate as he seems, here. He has been in Fall Out Boy since he was about sixteen and the band actually formed after he asked Pete - who was in Chicago hardcore bands at the time - to form a metal band with him, which never really worked out. At sixteen years old this guy was touring with Arma Angelus, who were all way, way older than him.

One of this guy's best friends, now, is Scott Ian, whose music he grew up listening to. If he had a real opportunity to nerd out about the bands he's into, maybe some of the kids here would stop whining and posturing about what bands are metal and who has the right to like or play metal, and get over it a little.

For what it's worth, most of the band's adult fans (and there are a lot of us) also wish that Wentz would shut up for a second and let Joe and Patrick handle the promo. They would certainly have less of a negative reputation, because - as this interview has shown - when the spotlight is on the others you see a whole new side of Fall Out Boy.

For those who think Patrick isn't genuine, check out his website (PatrickStump.com) and check out his blog. He's a really sweet, down to earth, self-deprecating kid. He and Joe probably aren't an awful lot older than many of the kids posting here.

Even if you don't like the music - and you're more than entitled not to - give the other boys a chance before tarring them with the same brush that people tar Pete with. And if you never really have checked out their older stuff, give it a go. You might be surprised.

[icedmaple]

Moshmom wrote:

What a total idiot.

You could call Led Zepplin emo, but then you should be refferd to a Psychiatric Institute.

but the guy did mention som decent bands in the interview. maybe some of you FoB fangays should go listen to them THEN try and stick up for Joe's "Guitar Skills".

Congratulations on just failing at life.

[Lefty7Stringer]

duncang wrote:

The_Raven wrote:

okaykiddo wrote:

SpellCaster wrote:

I think that this guy Joe Trohman should not be allowed to play guitar, he is an embarrassment to all guitarist. The guitar is made to play more than just continuous power and octave chords over the course of 3 minute songs with lyrics that lack basic logic and theme.


What the ****. What right do you have to judge if a person should play guitar or how they play the guitar? Music is subjective and so is the guitar playing associated with it, get ****ed f00l.

lol total fail, u cant just play guitar to be a guitarist

he IS a complete embarrasment to all true guitarists of the universe. and damn right, fifth and 8th chords arent frking enough in any guitarists vocabulary. whats that? he doesnt even know the major scale? IM NOT SUPRISED!


What's an '8th' chord?

an octave chord

[Lefty7Stringer]

Regression wrote:

Lefty7Stringer wrote:

Bailean wrote:

AAAAARGH wrote:

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my. You have to admit slash is a great guitarist plus there really can't be a greatest guitar player in my opinion its all preference. Joe seems like a nice guy i'd like to hear an album recorded with a Les Paul.=)


no i don't have to admit, he plays catchy lines that arent hard at ALL.


lol wut. I know Slash isn't incredible technically, but I'd like to see you play the solo for Paradise City, if it isn't hard at all, then I'm sure you won't make any mistakes.

I'm surprised there has been very little flaming. I don't think UG realises/realised that pretty much all the band were in pretty heavy bands before Fall Out Boy and that Joe introduced himself to Patrick after hearing him talking about Neurosis. Yeah they have decent taste in music.

I'm reasonably certain I won't

[sardonicgoat]

i'm torn because i actually thought they were a decent band, but with Wentz as their spokesman they seem to stand for everything that is wrong with music(untalented musicians, music for music's sake, guys wearing mascara(sp), music with no passion or creativity). Another thing that makes me not like them is how absolutely overplayed they were and possibly still are(i stopped listening to the radio years ago). Other than that they seem like they could be a band worthy of a purchase. What's funny though is that according to a majority of the people who've posted here, it doesn't matter if you've got talent as long as you listen to bands we think are cool.....that's so freakin stupid. I mean if you like good music of course you'll be a fan of bands like Sabbath and Metallica and "some" GnR. That in no way validates a musician as "cool" or talented. Heck i wish the fact that i'm into SRV and Mars Volta and Pantera and QOTSA and blah blah blah blah blah made me a talented musician, but it doesn't. Natural ability and PRACTICE does!!!!

[Lefty7Stringer]

Joelbassman wrote:

I registered just to post on this thread.

The_Raven...seriously. Who gave you the right to decie who is worthy to be deemed a guitarist or not? it's completely ironic that you're embarassing yourself and your so called 'true guitarist'.

I personally am a bassist and play a lot of guitar. I know the major and minor scales and their respective modes. Do I ever use them no? So stfu about theory that most people with even a little bit of talent don't need to write a decent song.

I agree with anyone who thanked UG for this thread. Finally Joe said hat a lot of us had wanted to sayall along. As for labels/genres, I'd abolish them if I could, they just cause too much frustration and confusion. Instead of talking about then listening to music, how about we reverse it, we'd all experience a lot more music.

Haha if I had a dollar for every time someone posted 'down to earth'. I'd be richer than all of FOB put together. But totally agreed.

talent doesn't allow you to write "good" songs.
catchy music is just music that is simple enough to stick in your head.

[k00kie M0nster]

blajano wrote:

I used to hate this band because of the emo style, cause you know, they look emo. But that Beat it cover is just great xD

Wait... are you joking???

[identityxcrysis]

First, I'd like to point out to the person who was making fun of him apparently not knowing the major scale. He was talking about pentatonic scales, so I'd imagine he knows the major scale.
But anyway
As much as I hate Fall Out Boy, I have always liked their guitarist, there was just something that said "This guy should get out, and form a GOOD band" This interview just kinda proved it a little more.

[ferretface]

I love how people are like "I hate FOB, but I love this guy!".

I am a fan of FOB, but I hate Pete Wentz. Doesn't mean I have to hate their music though.....

[shadowsfallmang]

The guys in Fall Out Boy don't piss me off and neither does their music but holy shit.. their fans do.

[kennyvspenny]

good stuff. great band.

[CowboyUp]

Nice to see somebody besides Pete Wentz giving an interview. This guy seems pretty cool, though I don't know if I'd buy his signature guitar. I'm not at all into his tone.

[pnkr0cker]

mchugh92 :
this guy seems a bit more mature than wentz, dont get me wrong, i hate fob, but the only reason i hate their music is cos a talentless tool like pete is a part of it, he cant play bass, simple, when you watch him live its as if he is playin a completely different song to the others, he plays the right notes yeah, but he rarely stays in time, and his strumming technique is messed up, the rest on the other hand have some talent, stump is a pretty good singer, joe seems like a better guitarist than he lets on, and andy is a pretty good drummer, they should kick pete out and get a BASSIST, not someone who has nothing going for him except his good looks, and their lyrics are very cheesy, but i suppose thats pop rock for you =/

You've got it all wrong. pete wasnt elected bassist for his talent of base. he makes the lyrics (which are very clever) so they cant kick him out. he also raises excitement at the concerts.

and to Shadowsfallmang, yea some fans suck at supporting fall out boy, people who dont generally like fob probably did a better job than the fans on this one lol.

[genresrforposer]

I find it interesting that metal influences bands like these, as it's about as far off from metal you can get.

This guy seems cool.

[christherock101]

Im not a huge fan of FOB but i like some of their earlier stuff but this guy seems cool enough for me. Really good interview, Fall Out Boy should let him handle some more interviews instead of freckin Pete (No im not gonna start bashin the guy but i will admit that he gets annoying after awhile). Maybe Joe, Patrick, and Andy will start a side project.. cuz that would kick ass

[guitar_hero543]

bad band but i didn't know this guy was a metalhead, he shouldn't be wasting his talents and doing guitar spinds with a pop band, he should do his own thing and make a metal band. powerchords arent hard to play, whether you're doing it live or not, so it doesnt mean anything for this guy to be good live when he's playing easy FOB riffs....he should do his own thing, make a metal band..or at least hard rock band, make difficult riffs and get some respect from fellow musicians....cause right now with FOB, he's not getting any, all he's getting is little girls screaming with the occasional homosexual couple at FOB's concerts, i could learn to respect him as a guitarist if he quit, him and the guitarist, out, new metal band starts up, FOB ends, everyone's happy. he sounds like a better, smarter guy than the others in the band. not gonna lie.

[guitar_hero543]

ouch, shoulda proof-read that..the grammar stinks.

[DiMeTiMe]

um....FOB?

ya...pretty metal...heh

[guitar_hero543]

oh, and i accidentally said him and the guitarist...i meant him and the drummer.....man i gotta go back to sleep here

[delizio37]

Led_Zeppelin992 wrote:

People are giving away signature guitars far too easily these days.

i agree..shit i should start stringin some serious power chords together and crank my volume and maybe ill get a signature guitar

[+the betrayal+]

see what I really dont like is when people say fall out boy are a bunch of emo faggots or something, but they're actually really cool people, this interview for instance, people call Joe really pointless in the band cause he just plays power chords all the time, but he makes a good majority of the lead stuff too, so is he really that ponitless?

oh god I'm bored lol....

[Violent_Angel15]

Dude, Joe, yopu have some bad ass grandparents. Sherioushly dude, your grandma buys you 'Live Shit' for your birthday and you grandpa gives you a guitar? Niiiiice bra'!

[Violent_Angel15]

Oh and btw, will everone stop bitchin' about Joe. I'm not huge fan of him, but just stop. Grow up.

[dale-banez]

They were looking for us to be in it, and then Seth was like, “Well, I know those guys. So I’ll hit ‘em up.” He asked us, and we were like “Totally.”

the mind of a teenage girl in the body of a grown man....





lulz

[Arrived+Dparted]

i despise this band, but after reading this interview, i can respect at least the guitar player. and another interesting fun fact. pete wentz used to be in a hardcore band with Rise Against's Tim McIllrath.

[mitch311]

He seems like an alright guy but hes an absolutely useless guitarist

[pinktuxdude]

goodness gracious kids.

bands dont get big by not being musicians.

besides. who can measure the amazingness of music? Can the simple not be cool? is amazing measured by complexity?

If its fun, sounds good, and make you wanna tap your feet, what difference does it make.

Funny little kids. music is fun.

nice guy. good band. the end.

[hide_the_beer]

Well at least this one seems all right.
He seems to know what he's talking about, and, well, awesome. I really, really dislike FOB but I can respect this guy.

[JFSJ513]

Man, I hate reading all comments from people who just hate FOB for no reason. There are lots of great bands that I don't necessarily like (for example: MCR, ACDC, John Mayer trio, and many other bands that my friends love) but I don't just complain about them all the time. They're still good at what they do. Personally, I like FOB, although I agree that if Pete wasn't writing lyrics, they should've gotten a better bassist.

[hunta7989]

pinktuxdude wrote:

goodness gracious kids.

bands dont get big by not being musicians.

besides. who can measure the amazingness of music? Can the simple not be cool? is amazing measured by complexity?

If its fun, sounds good, and make you wanna tap your feet, what difference does it make.

Funny little kids. music is fun.

nice guy. good band. the end.

It doesn't matter how simple it is really but sometimes bands these days don't even sound like they are trying. How many times can you listen to the same riffs and the songs in the same key you know? Its kinda like the blues in the way that all of the progressions are practically the same, but at least most blues songs threw something musically complex in there(usually a guitar solo though). This guy could be one of the most talented guitarist(most likely just an average player) in the world but rarely ever does he seem to want to show that. For me a the difference between one pop band and the other is the lyrics, and well FOB lyrics are really childish. I don't know which one of the members write the songs but they need a hardcore lesson in literature and poetry and such. Other than that, untill this guy shows me how good he is I will gladly leave FOB cds on the shelf at walmart.

[whitestrat279]

there first album was actually pretty good. now theyre an over-produced studio band.

oh and i think a lot more people would like them if pete wasnt in the band. hes the only guy who gets bashed and sometimes rightfully so. but then they would lose their primamry fan base, 13-18 girls. oh well thats just my opinion.

[Joelbassman]

Lefty7Stringer wrote:

Joelbassman wrote:

I registered just to post on this thread.

The_Raven...seriously. Who gave you the right to decie who is worthy to be deemed a guitarist or not? it's completely ironic that you're embarassing yourself and your so called 'true guitarist'.

I personally am a bassist and play a lot of guitar. I know the major and minor scales and their respective modes. Do I ever use them no? So stfu about theory that most people with even a little bit of talent don't need to write a decent song.

I agree with anyone who thanked UG for this thread. Finally Joe said hat a lot of us had wanted to sayall along. As for labels/genres, I'd abolish them if I could, they just cause too much frustration and confusion. Instead of talking about then listening to music, how about we reverse it, we'd all experience a lot more music.

Haha if I had a dollar for every time someone posted 'down to earth'. I'd be richer than all of FOB put together. But totally agreed.


talent doesn't allow you to write "good" songs.
catchy music is just music that is simple enough to stick in your head.

Define good? It's all subject to opinion. Yeah there's technical, which I'm sure all you metal heads consider 'good'. But technicalilty doesn't necessarily equal a good song.

No one wants to hear you solo for ten minutes over every single key at 340 bpm.

And I personally think you need to have at least a little talent to write a song that someone else will like.

[i_r_guitar]

i don't really like the band they are to "poppy" sounding but the guitarist sounds like an awesome guy i also love slash and think he is the best

[jesse141034]

WhyLater wrote:

Focus on live shows? Really?

I mean, I can stand Fallout Boy's albums. But they were at Voodoofest last year when I went, and man... it was the worst live performance of any band anywhere ever. And it's not like, oh, things didn't go well. It's like they didn't care, they've sold millions of albums, why should they try at this show?

I guess that was more Wentz and Patrick, though. If this guy's worried about live shows, well, he's not in the best company. They make me sick.

dude what were you listining to they played an awesome show maybe you were listing to the smashing pumpkins or sinade o'connor at the time.

[MatthuB94]

thats awesome, I had know idea he was into metalica and slash. And as a guitar player myself, simple, great quality guitars are the best, especially when they are light weight.

[mdlarry7]

"We actually made sure we played really well that day. [Laughing]"

lol, shouldnt a performer do that everytime?

one thing i will give fall out boy is a knack for amazing melodies

[MarchOfTheDead]

so you hate fob. but you read the article.
you post 'i hate fob' and expect everyone to love your opinion.
you bash them because they write 'simple' stuff. let me tell you they don't.
if you understood simple things like how incredible patrick's vocals are maybe you'd take your thumb out of your ass. and yes, i am a metalhead too, so theres no point in calling me an emo.
I've gotta say, i love the fact that joe seems so laid back about not being mr popular like wentz. joe seems like a cool guy.
speaking of slash, his autobiography is really interesting.

[guy_tebache]

pinktuxdude :
goodness gracious kids.

bands dont get big by not being musicians.

Not that i wouldnt usually agree, but what about the monkeys?

mdlarry7 :
"We actually made sure we played really well that day. [Laughing]"

lol, shouldnt a performer do that everytime?

Shows how much experience you've had performing dude

[Myxer]

pretty cool guitarist.
slash is pretty average when it comes to playing guitar i've seen way better guitarist its his style that people love mostly. I hope there new album has better music not saying that there music is bad just not really my style

[Aziraphale]

Lefty7Stringer wrote:
talent doesn't allow you to write "good" songs.
catchy music is just music that is simple enough to stick in your head.

Haha dude, come on. Ever heard of Stevie Wonder, Steely Dan, or even ABBA? Their songs are catchy as hell but they're still very complex.

If writing hits was as easy as you make it out to be, you would be doing it right now, and we'd all have heard of you. Writing an alt-picked triplet lick is easy, modal improvising can be taught from a book, but writing songs that are "cacthy"... that's an inexact science and whether it's hard to play or not is completely irrelevant.

You need to learn a few things about what it means to be a musician man.

[Zertuche]

Wow, Fall Out Boy and "best live show" in the same sentance.

[PastaOfMuppets]

Seems like a really cool guy, my lead singer keeps telling me I look a bit like him before he got his facial hair, haha.
I like all of them as people except Pete Wentz (though I wish Andy wasn't a PETA supporter because I can't stand them).
The first couple of albums are pretty good but since then their music has got boring and now I just switch the channel when one of their new videos comes on.

They all were in pretty heavy bands at one point though, here is a video of Pete on vocals for Arma Angelus. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tiNESs6X21A

Oh, and on a side-note the band Joe was talking about, Racetraitor (Andy's old band) were the subject of a song by the metalcore band Botch. It's called C. Thomas Howell As The "Soul Man".
Google the lyrics to it or something.

checked.

[everythingevil3]

I think its safe to say that we can all agree that pete wentz absolutely sucks, and pretty much ruins fall out boy for most people.

i mean imagine the potential of this band if they brought in an actual bass player? it could be amazing

[guitar_hero543]

the band has no talent, and if they do, they sure ain't showin' it cause all i'm hearing is power chords with bass riffs consisting of about 4-5 different notes...end of story

[strumdoggy]

< power chords with bass riffs consisting of about 4-5 different notes > That sounds to me like the way rock music always was. It's not rocket science. It's rock!

I think some of you should get a life. If you don't like the band then don't pay them any attention. But don't knock them for being a hundred times more successful than you'll ever be. Joe sounds like a great guy to me.

[whitebluesboy]

you know he reads these right?

[guitar_hero543]

i never said he wasn't a good guy, maybe not great guy, you'd have to be a poser to play for FOB, but a good guy, ok i'm cool with that. rock has NEVER been power chords with bass riffs of about 4-5 different notes, led zeppelin's guitar was always catchy yet you'd look at the tabs and it'd be something special, not just power chords, peter frampton was the same, the guess who were the same, GN'R were the same, VR are the same, the trews are the same and so on and so forth. don't tell me about rock, especially if you're saying FOB is rock.....k just to let ultimate-guitar know, i'm not flaming i'm just on a quick rant to defend true rock from being put into the same category as FOB...just to let you guys know...you're welcome, lol

[guitar_hero543]

whitebluesboy...nobody cares if joe trohman reads these...i can say mean things about somebody right in front of them and not really care about it, and neither do they actually.

[forsaknazrael]

michal23 wrote:

I like it how everyone has a name except for the drummer xD

Actually, he mentions him in the Article, if you were reading, as Andy.

anyway, good article, hopefully changed some people's minds about FOB. They don't bring teh br00ts, but they're a fun band, and they're good guys.

[Bassatron]

This man can barely play his instrument.

[superstud_zat]

FOB should really let Joe loose on the guitar, thats one thing the band lacks and really think they should work on, more solos and wicked licks yo!

but i have heard some of joes "real" guitar work, and hes pretty good

[boyan89]

the guitarist is cool but the band is terrible and if he listened to Metallica why not start a metal band instead of crap

[guitar_hero543]

exactly boyan, exactly

[Aziraphale]

guitar_hero543 wrote:

i never said he wasn't a good guy, maybe not great guy, you'd have to be a poser to play for FOB, but a good guy, ok i'm cool with that. rock has NEVER been power chords with bass riffs of about 4-5 different notes, led zeppelin's guitar was always catchy yet you'd look at the tabs and it'd be something special, not just power chords, peter frampton was the same, the guess who were the same, GN'R were the same, VR are the same, the trews are the same and so on and so forth. don't tell me about rock, especially if you're saying FOB is rock.....k just to let ultimate-guitar know, i'm not flaming i'm just on a quick rant to defend true rock from being put into the same category as FOB...just to let you guys know...you're welcome, lol

So unless you look at the tabs, you don't notice any difference? Besides, classical music has been around for hundreds of years, why can't rock be allowed to evolve and update in the same way? What you referred to is past rock, FOB is present rock, it's all a continuing evolution.

[dio_dude]

i used to like them ALOT but then came metal lol, so now i listen to sodom and kreator more than these guys. Patrick has a really good voice, original, too bad that PATD ripped him off. Andy and Joe have talent, they know what they are doing, and then comes Wentz. He's just there to look pretty i suppose. Why doesn't Joe at least solo in FOB songs? Or why can't andy add some solo's aswell? couldn't hurt.

[jetfuel495]

Aziraphale wrote:
What you referred to is past rock, FOB is present rock, it's all a continuing evolution.

this=win

[Captain Insano]

I have respect for this man, He knows his emo.

On a side comment, Since when is this guy in the band. I have never seemed to notice him.

[Paul Carbonella]

Best live show?

The one where they stand in one spot and play songs exactly how they are on the album?

[Zanon]

just look at you all, bashing music all over the place, music is music not some kind of competiton which i think most people turn it into just because its not a shredfest with blastbeats all over the shop.

If you actually listen to fall out boy their music is well structured and its very catchy i like most of it, although when i saw them they were a bit bland, however they played an akon rendition and their thriller cover = WIN
this is comming from a prog / metal fan open your eyes for a change. You must have listened to other music such as reggae bob marley wasnt exactly a technical master but i bet most of you appreciate the music and actually like it...

[guitar_hero543]

Aziraphale wrote:

guitar_hero543 wrote:

i never said he wasn't a good guy, maybe not great guy, you'd have to be a poser to play for FOB, but a good guy, ok i'm cool with that. rock has NEVER been power chords with bass riffs of about 4-5 different notes, led zeppelin's guitar was always catchy yet you'd look at the tabs and it'd be something special, not just power chords, peter frampton was the same, the guess who were the same, GN'R were the same, VR are the same, the trews are the same and so on and so forth. don't tell me about rock, especially if you're saying FOB is rock.....k just to let ultimate-guitar know, i'm not flaming i'm just on a quick rant to defend true rock from being put into the same category as FOB...just to let you guys know...you're welcome, lol

So unless you look at the tabs, you don't notice any difference? Besides, classical music has been around for hundreds of years, why can't rock be allowed to evolve and update in the same way? What you referred to is past rock, FOB is present rock, it's all a continuing evolution.

no actually its not present rock, sure its contemporary but its not rock, its pop, rock is the trews, VR, foo fighters, or weezer...there arent many bands these days that can play actual "rock" FOB is a pop band for wannabe kids and overhyper 14 year old girls....end of story

[guitar_hero543]

and i can certainly tell the difference without looking at the tabs....so shutup and come back when you know what you're talking about

[guitar_hero543]

and i wasn't talking about classical music i was talking about ROCK, rock hasn't been around for hundreds of year.....wow guy, are all FOB fans this retarded?

[strumdoggy]

< rock has NEVER been power chords with bass riffs of about 4-5 different notes, led zeppelin's guitar was always catchy yet you'd look at the tabs and it'd be something special, not just power chords, peter frampton was the same, the guess who were the same, GN'R were the same, VR are the same, the trews are the same and so on and so forth. don't tell me about rock, especially if you're saying FOB is rock.....k just to let ultimate-guitar know, i'm not flaming i'm just on a quick rant to defend true rock from being put into the same category as FOB >

You're obviously not very educated in the area of the history of rock. FOB are a punk based band, and punk music has always been fairly simple theoretically. There have been many great sounding rock and punk bands throughout history. Prog and technical ability aren't always a factor. AC/DC, mind you, have always gotten by on power chords and simple bass and guitar riffs. Most rock bands have. Don't confuse technical ability with sounding good; many progressive bands have nothing but technical ability on their side, and it does nothing to make them sound 'good'. FOB have been great at least for getting a younger generation into rock music. They may not be your taste, but their platinum records prove that others like them. Learn to be a mature rock and guitar fan by listening to what you like, without having to insult what you don't like. Just because you're not passionate about them doesn't mean others aren't.

[guitar_hero543]

and i wasn't talking about classical music i was talking about ROCK, rock hasn't been around for hundreds of years.....rock has evolved some, but FOB IS NOT ROCK, get that through your head, ok? are all FOB fans this retarded?

[tmwtp]

Bailean wrote:

AAAAARGH wrote:

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my.
You have to admit slash is a great guitarist plus there really can't be a greatest guitar player in my opinion its all preference. Joe seems like a nice guy i'd like to hear an album recorded with a Les Paul.=)

that'd be interesting.

[guitar_hero543]

tmwtp wrote:

Bailean wrote:

AAAAARGH wrote:

Slash? The Greatest Guitar Player? Oh my.
You have to admit slash is a great guitarist plus there really can't be a greatest guitar player in my opinion its all preference. Joe seems like a nice guy i'd like to hear an album recorded with a Les Paul.=)

that'd be interesting.

actually that'd be a disgrace to a les paul come to think of it.

[snaaake]

I don't think anyone has gotten over Fall Out Boy flaming, I just think it happens on articles about Pete Wentz more because he's an *******, and this guy isn't.

[BenFoffenbock]

Good call strumdoggy

[dannyboy1992]

have you noticed most people are saying

"quit fall out boy, play in a metal band"

maybe he plays in fall out boy cas he actually likes it and doesnt think metal is the supreme genre of music

[eperk84]

He just called Led Zeppelin an emo band. Die Fall Out Guy Die!

[farhan_zul]

fall out boy used to be hardcore band years ago...

[strumdoggy]

< He just called Led Zeppelin an emo band. Die Fall Out Guy Die! >

He said that Zep has emotional lyrics, using them as an example - meaning that a band isn't 'emo' just because they have emotional lyrics. Try and pay attention.

[Aziraphale]

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Aziraphale wrote:

So unless you look at the tabs, you don't notice any difference? Besides, classical music has been around for hundreds of years, why can't rock be allowed to evolve and update in the same way? What you referred to is past rock, FOB is present rock, it's all a continuing evolution.


no actually its not present rock, sure its contemporary but its not rock, its pop, rock is the trews, VR, foo fighters, or weezer...there arent many bands these days that can play actual "rock" FOB is a pop band for wannabe kids and overhyper 14 year old girls....end of story

guitar_hero543 wrote:

and i can certainly tell the difference without looking at the tabs....so shutup and come back when you know what you're talking about

guitar_hero543 wrote:

and i wasn't talking about classical music i was talking about ROCK, rock hasn't been around for hundreds of year.....wow guy, are all FOB fans this retarded?

Quote 1: FOB is mostly pop, I'll agree to that. There are definately elements of both rock and punk in there aswell though, such as distorted guitars and loud and fast drums, not usually associated with pop.

Quote 2: I was simply asking. You were the one who said you had to look at the tabs to make the distinction, not me.

Quote 3: *smacks forehead* That was my point. Classical music has been evolving for hundreds of years, so I was asking why you won't let rock music do the same, as it's only been around for about 50 years. You ain't that good with the reading are you? I won't call you a retard though, I'll let you figure that out by yourself...

[Shikari Hybryd]

Well Infinity on High was shit (in my opinion) so that can only mean the next album will be better =p
Anyways, Joe is a very talented guitarist.

[MX4Life]

The first sentence made me decide to not read the rest of the entire article.

[oneblackened]

!normajean! wrote:

im not into their music and i cant stand pete wentz but this guy actually seems like a cool dude. he's not a douchebag like pete.

Agreed. I say they should fire Pete the attention seeking boob (just had to use it) and hire a decent bassist (I.E. one that doesn't just randomly play root notes off time >_>

[Morning_Star53]

i find it ironic on how FOB apparently values putting on a good show, when all i've ever heard about their shows is they have a tendency of goin on stage so drunk they cant play

[arcanus trexor]

Morning_Star53 :
i find it ironic on how FOB apparently values putting on a good show, when all i've ever heard about their shows is they have a tendency of goin on stage so drunk they cant play

it's ironic how FOB apparently values putting on a good show, when their music is shallow unoriginal pop garbage.

[KevVin]

Andy and Joe are great guys, actually. Patricks kinda lame and Petes a tool though, I honestly think a thrash side project would be really cool.

[HemlockCocktail]

axefreak129 wrote:

im starting to think i only hate FOB because of pete wentz. this guy seems okay, and i cant help loving some of those crazy falsettos the singer does.

I'm sure that's about the only reason you can hate FOB. It's almost just because I play bass that I have a personal vendetta against Wentz, but everyone else in the band seems alright.

Protip: the lyrics that everyone seems to be bashing, are primarily Wentz's fault...see a coincidence?

[mikko_9119]

I'm surprised this is still up

[ghostofhendrix]

This guy seems pretty cool, shame he plays with a bunch of douchebags...*cough* Pete Wentz *cough*.....

[CokeRox]

randyaintdead82 wrote:

ha, i didnt know this guy liked cool stuff like metallica and gnr. if he ever does side project he should make a thrash metal band, that would be sick. im not into fob so he better get going on it.

No...Just no... He seems cool enough I guess, but I would love to kick the Pete Wentz character right in his girl pants.

[strumdoggy]

I think the fact that Pete is dating Jessica Simpson might be making a few of you boys quite jealous. lol!

[Trommel]

What a bunch of fruits the guys in this band are.

[peaceonearth52]

most of you guys (most) are posers, and probably are sticking up for led zeppelin just because you think they are cool, and think you are cool listening to them where there are a bunch of other good bands to listen to, like AC/DC (jk)

[guitar_hero543]

Aziraphale wrote:

Quote 2: I was simply asking. You were the one who said you had to look at the tabs to make the distinction, not me.

Quote 3: *smacks forehead* That was my point. Classical music has been evolving for hundreds of years, so I was asking why you won't let rock music do the same, as it's only been around for about 50 years. You ain't that good with the reading are you? I won't call you a retard though, I'll let you figure that out by yourself...

uh-huh..yep, suuure, if rock has evolved into bands like FOB then i would not be listening to rock anymore...thankfully it hasnt and its a lie to say it has, examples of how rock has evolved over the years are bands like weezer, jimmy eat world is a good one, lost prophets even...there are bands that can play actual rock, FOB isn't rock, it isn't the modern result of the evolution of rock, it never will be, they're a little kid's band that plays music that should be listening to by little kids along with hannah montana and hillary duff. different types of rock have come up and evolved in different ways, but the TRUE rock sound still remains the same and can be found in bands like the trews, audioslave, foo fighters, VR of course...RHCP still have a kick ass sound, the tragically hip, the killers, maroon 5 has the blues/rock style which has been missed for awhile...

those are just to name a few. FOB has come from fake punk rock, pop, and more fake punk...they're in a league of their own and all other true rock bands and bands that belong to different genre's of rock can laugh at them because FOB doesn't have it...they just...don't. I'll stick with my true rock because its the only thing that can satisfy my music taste....you can keep to your girly music if you want, i ain't gonna stop you.

and btw i didnt say i needed to look at the tabs, look who's talking about the not reading posts thing...i said somebody can look at the tabs and realize they're something special, that doesnt mean the music on its own isnt special...who can honestly say that the music for stairway to heaven isn't special material?...i sure can't say it.

sry for the wall of text everyone..

[Glam-Hammer]

pretty hilarious people moan about them being mainstream and poppy yet dont release all the big and 'hard-ass metal bands' they listen too have sold records via being mainstream.

Metallica is just as mainstream as anything FoB.

Nothing wrong with selling your music.

[Dallinisrad]

randyaintdead82 wrote:

ha, i didnt know this guy liked cool stuff like metallica and gnr. if he ever does side project he should make a thrash metal band, that would be sick. im not into fob so he better get going on it.

doesnt surprise me. gay bands like gay music

[JessicaGonzo]

I bet this guy has the most talent in the band.

[killboypowerhed]

oh my gosh has nobody noticed this? the offspring's singer's real name is Bryan Holland! I cannot believe that has not been picked up on

[Aftertime]

i think they somehow have a chance to redeem themselves by making something good, instead of listening to what the producers want

[FadedHartBeat]

mathieupM13 wrote:

I used to hate Fall out boy but lately i've been listening to a lot of their music and they are a very good band

Awesome interview

You should listen to their older albums: From under the cork tree &&
Take this to your grave.
They are 2 sick-ass albums =]

[FadedHartBeat]

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Aziraphale wrote:

Quote 2: I was simply asking. You were the one who said you had to look at the tabs to make the distinction, not me.

Quote 3: *smacks forehead* That was my point. Classical music has been evolving for hundreds of years, so I was asking why you won't let rock music do the same, as it's only been around for about 50 years. You ain't that good with the reading are you? I won't call you a retard though, I'll let you figure that out by yourself...


uh-huh..yep, suuure, if rock has evolved into bands like FOB then i would not be listening to rock anymore...thankfully it hasnt and its a lie to say it has, examples of how rock has evolved over the years are bands like weezer, jimmy eat world is a good one, lost prophets even...there are bands that can play actual rock, FOB isn't rock, it isn't the modern result of the evolution of rock, it never will be, they're a little kid's band that plays music that should be listening to by little kids along with hannah montana and hillary duff. different types of rock have come up and evolved in different ways, but the TRUE rock sound still remains the same and can be found in bands like the trews, audioslave, foo fighters, VR of course...RHCP still have a kick ass sound, the tragically hip, the killers, maroon 5 has the blues/rock style which has been missed for awhile...

those are just to name a few. FOB has come from fake punk rock, pop, and more fake punk...they're in a league of their own and all other true rock bands and bands that belong to different genre's of rock can laugh at them because FOB doesn't have it...they just...don't. I'll stick with my true rock because its the only thing that can satisfy my music taste....you can keep to your girly music if you want, i ain't gonna stop you.

and btw i didnt say i needed to look at the tabs, look who's talking about the not reading posts thing...i said somebody can look at the tabs and realize they're something special, that doesnt mean the music on its own isnt special...who can honestly say that the music for stairway to heaven isn't special material?...i sure can't say it.

sry for the wall of text everyone..

Why the f*

[guitarded222]

i personally dont mind the band, some of their stuff is kinda cool. im not saying they are the most talented bunch of guys out there but lets face it, simple is better...sometimes (smoke on the water for example)

[Tango616]

whosamerica wrote:

Greg_2390 wrote:

Freebird79 wrote:

"You could call Led Zeppelin emo" Well...I guess you could call Fall Out Boy a steaming pile of cat shit

LMFAO, too true.

Terrible, terrible shit. Terrible musicians, terrible lyrics, terrible rythem, terrible music.


yep. cuz you're world renowned and famous right?

renowned for crappy playing and whining about uselesss hit into a mic pretending your a metal head XD

[diamondstars*]

I like Joe, it's a shame that he doesn't get as much recognition at the others...bless him!It's nice to know that he wants to put on a good show for the fans...infact, Joe actually kinda inspired me to play guitar! ha ha =D

[diamondstars*]

btw, the agree with FadedHartbeat, Take this to your grave is probs one of my fave albums by FOB

[BabySlayer]

All Of You Who Criticize FOB, Call Them Fake Punk, Girly, Anything Of The Sort. Broaden Your Musical Tastes And Actually Listen. You Say Their Not True Rock And That They're Unoriginal By Comparing Them TO Music That Sucks Enough To Not Be Able To Be Caompared To Anything But A Steaming Pile Of Cow Dung(Such As Hilary Duff And Hanna Montana).They Can Indeed Be Compared To Led Zeppelin By, Not Their Musical Style Or Skills, But By What Their Music Is About. Screw All You Uneducated Hicks

[BabySlayer]

uh-huh..yep, suuure, if rock has evolved into bands like FOB then i would not be listening to rock anymore...thankfully it hasnt and its a lie to say it has, examples of how rock has evolved over the years are bands like weezer, jimmy eat world is a good one, lost prophets even...there are bands that can play actual rock, FOB isn't rock, it isn't the modern result of the evolution of rock, it never will be, they're a little kid's band that plays music that should be listening to by little kids along with hannah montana and hillary duff. different types of rock have come up and evolved in different ways, but the TRUE rock sound still remains the same and can be found in bands like the trews, audioslave, foo fighters, VR of course...RHCP still have a kick ass sound, the tragically hip, the killers, maroon 5 has the blues/rock style which has been missed for awhile...

FOB Is Indeed True Rock. And Is More Original Than Any Of the Bands That You've Got Listed. Just Another Example Of Your Ignorance And Stubborness To See Past What You Think Is Real Music. Grow A Brain