Hinder: 'The Rock World Is Coming Back To Life'

During the 1990s, most bands opting to carry on the torch of the hair metal days were quickly given the boot by hosts of grunge fans. The change in the music scene was obviously welcomed at the time, but the tide does seem to once again be changing. All-out, dirty rock has nosed its way back on to the radio, and record sales indicate that it’s been a long time coming. Hinder, who won over the public a few years ago with their big power ballads and arena rock, is once again back to give the people what they want. The new record Take It To The Limit is fueled by gritty guitars, sing-along choruses, and plenty of sexually charged lyrics, and Motley Crue veteran Mick Mars even lends his talents to the title track.

While some critics are still upset by the 80’s rock revival, Hinder pays them little mind. After all, the Oklahoma natives have already scored a triple platinum debut album, which is almost unthinkable in the era of downloading. Guitarists Joe “Blower” Garvey and Mark King explained to Ultimate-Guitar recently that they are just as proud of Take It To The Limit, and they’ll be adding another impressive accomplishment to their resume in early 2009: a coveted slot on the Motley Crue Saints of Los Angeles Tour.

UG: Did you want to take a different musical approach with Take It To The Limit? Would you say that you’ve stuck with the traditional rock sound you had on the previous record?

Joe: Oh, absolutely. We went with what we know. With this album we actually had a lot more time writing, and we were able to do our own thing. Our influences definitely stand out on this record. So we had a lot more time to record it, write it, and the whole 9 yards. Everything turned out great. We stuck with the same producer to kind of get the same vibe. Obviously, we kept the drinking involved with everything! It was great. We were extremely proud of the second one.

Considering that your first album was certified triple platinum, did you feel a lot of pressure going into the studio?

Joe: It was always in the back of our minds. But like I said earlier, we had a lot more time to write for this second album and to spend more time throughout the process of recording. We were really able to dial in, as far as tones and the way we were going to set everything up. So we were pretty confident going into this one.

Mark: I think we put more pressure on ourselves than anyone else. The record industry being what it is today, it’s going down in record sales. It’s still very fragile. We sold over 3 million on the first album. What we were told when we first got a record deal was, “Those days are gone, the days of selling a million-plus albums, blah, blah, blah.” We do what we do. I think we put out a great product. We all stand behind it and are very proud of it. Hopefully the people will dig it.

Are you bothered at all by the increase in downloading?

Mark: It doesn’t really bother me. It’s probably because we were blessed to sell albums. It is kind of sad for the people that don’t sell all those albums. Bands just come and go all the time these days. It’s kind of crazy because you never know.

Did Brian Howes (producer on Take It To The Limit) have a heavy hand in the entire recording process?

Joe: Yeah, absolutely. Through every single process he’s always there, which we love. He’s our great friend and we just work well together. We all pretty much have our say and input, but we just tried everything. We had lots of old school equipment in the studio. We were getting those big rock guitar sounds again and big drums and everything like that. We were all, including Brian, right there and hands on, making sure it was the perfect sound or effect for that particular song.

You mentioned that there was “old school equipment.” What were some of the vintage guitars or amps used?

Joe: We had some old school Marshall stacks. I don’t know! I can’t even remember half of the stuff we used now! We had a nice little arsenal of old school Gibson guitars, classic Les Pauls and everything. It just turned out amazingly. I think there were some Led Zeppelin amps that they used or something. We had an arsenal of eclectic equipment and gear in there, along with some classic guitars and everything that just got that perfect, big 80’s rock again.

You have an impressive guest, Mick Mars, who shows up to play on the title track. How did Mick get involved?

Joe: I don’t know. It just kind of happened! He was always a fan of us, and we finally got into contact with him. We were interested in maybe doing some collaborations, so we sent him a song. Unfortunately I didn’t get to go, but a few of the guys went to his house up in Hollywood. They showed him the song, he ripped through it 2 or 3 times, and he put it together. It worked out great. We’re obviously huge fans of him with Motley Crue and everything. It was privilege for him to play on the album.

Were you able to be there for any of the recording sessions that Mick was involved in?

Joe: No. I don’t know what I was doing, but I was pissed! They actually got to go to his house to do the recording, so I was pissed. But I’ll get to meet him eventually!

Mark: We were up in Vancouver still, and Cody and Austin went down to L.A. They were going to work on some of the mixing stuff. I think I was doing keyboards at the time, so I missed out on that, too!

"We stuck with the same producer to kind of get the same vibe."

Who were some of your main influences as a guitarist?

Joe: I would probably have to say that Slash is my number one. Not only can he obviously wail on the guitar, but he’s got such a great feel for the song melodically and the style he plays. Obviously I’m always a big fan of the classic Gibson guitars. It’s just awesome. He was definitely my first influence, but we just kind of grew up listening to all of that and watching them have fun. He’s probably my number one.

Mark: We both have Slash in common. The first time I heard the guitar solo for “November Rain,” I was hooked from that very moment. He’s my number one as well.

There was a time in the early 1990s when guitar solos had decreased and grunge was king of the music scene. Had that pretty much blown over by the time you guy formed the band?

Joe: Yeah, it was ’01. Obviously we were growing up in that time period and were hearing all that grunge crap and everything. But we also remembered before all of that, seeing just how much fun it was to go out to a concert. That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s. It seemed like there were some concerts you left even more depressed than even when you got in.

That was just one of our main things that we wanted to do. We just wanted to bring back the fun. It’s what rock and roll is all about. It’s going out, being crazy, and doing our thing. It’s not an act! Even before we joined the band, we were always party animals and just always trying to live that rock and roll lifestyle. When everything happened, it just kind of kept on going.

What do you say to the critics who don’t really get what you’re trying to do as musicians?

Joe: They can say what they say, but we really just don’t give a shit. Whatever they put in, that’s they’re fucking opinion. We’re having a good fucking time, and our fans are having a great fucking time. If they want to try to continue to make this serious, I don’t think it’s going to last too much longer. The rock world is coming back to life, and they can just piss off in my opinion!

Mark: I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album. What the critics say, I don’t really care about. I actually kind of get online and read as much as I can because it just cracks me up. I don’t think they ever really have anything negative to say. They just say they don’t like it. They’ll say, “Oh, they’ve got big, catchy melodies and big, huge choruses. It sounds like total arena rock, but I don’t like it.” It’s like, “Well, what’s negative? What do you not like about it?”

Is the music usually written during jam sessions?

Joe: Usually what has worked is that Cody and Austin will start out with acoustic guitars. We believe that if the song doesn’t sound stripped down to an acoustic and one vocal, then there’s no sense in continuing on as a full band. So it kind of starts out in that process. Then when they have an idea, they bring it to us and I guess put the icing on the cake per se. We start jamming it out, just making a song the best it can be.

Mark: It’s the 5 of us, and definitely our producer Brian Howes. He was a child of the 80’s, and he definitely helped us with some of the licks. He’s basically the unsung 6th member of the band. We’ll definitely have him help us out because he’s got a great style and looked up to Slash.

Are solos usually worked out pretty late in the game?

Joe: We’ll figure out some stuff in the studio, but some of it just comes out on accident. We’re like, “Oh, that was cool! Do that!” It’s all just a combination of kind of everything and what will fit best with that part or section. I don’t remember some of them because it was late at night and I was hammered. When I wake up the next morning I’m like, “Wow, that did actually sound good!”

Now that the band has experienced financial success, are you able to go out and indulge in an assortment of guitars, amps, and pedals?

Joe: We like to keep it simple most days. I’m not a big guy with all these pedals everywhere. We all like to move around and just keep it fun. We’re pretty simple. Basically I always have Mesa. My main thing is I’m big into Gibson guitars. Well, I’ve always been. It’s great to be able to see what’s new that has come out, on top of what they have in store as far as classic stuff. I think I have like over 20 guitars now. It’s great to just have a full arsenal old school and new school technology around. I mainly have Les Pauls, but I’ve got Flying Vs. I would love to bring it all out, but I know my guitar tech would have a shit fit! That’s the one thing I do take pride in. It’s the guitar and everything that it does.

Mark: I’m not really a gearhead. I don’t have the good ear for getting the sound tweaked in right, and that’s where our producer comes in. He’s awesome of that. I’m more of a composition guy. I enjoy the composition of the song and the melodies.

"I'm more of a composition guy. I enjoy the composition of the song and the melodies."

Do you enjoy experimenting with differing voicing or harmonics? Or do you prefer a straightforward rock sound?

Mark: It definitely doesn’t have to be complex, but I love going the extra mile with certain things. Yeah, I do like messing with the voicings and things. I was actually going to school to get a degree in music performance. I was going to be a guitar performance major, but then I broke my middle finger and that set me back a little ways. I was studying music theory and stuff like that. I love all that stuff now.

How far along were you in school before you broke your finger, Mark?

Mark: I was about 2 years in, but it was kind of a blessing in disguise. I was just totally guitar at the time. After that happened I started playing piano and taking compositions lessons. I apply all those things to the band now. I play most of the keyboard parts on the album. So it all worked out for the best.

Would you encourage young guitar students to study theory first?

Mark: I think it’s different from person to person because Blower and I are totally 2 different trains of thought. He doesn’t know the theory, but he just feels it. Whereas I will be like, “Okay, this is a 6th chord, blah, blah, blah.” I don’t know. Everyone has to find their own way. I’m the only guy in the band who really knows theory and all that stuff, and obviously it’s worked out for the 5 of us. I think everyone just has to go their own path. If you really love music and want to do this thing, I would suggest going to school and studying up on some things. It’s definitely helped me out immensely.

Did you first become interested in Gibson Les Pauls after seeing Slash with one?

Joe: Absolutely. That was definitely a big influence. It’s the look, too, and everything. I’ve always thought that Gibson guitars were the top of the line and the best things ever. I think everybody started out with a Fender or something like that. Then when you get your first Gibson it was like, “Holy crap! This is a top of the line guitar!” From then on, that’s all I wanted. They’re addictive!

I know that you tried out new equipment during the recording of the new album, but do you think you’ll stick with relatively the same setup for future records?

Mark: Honestly, it’s still the same stuff. I actually want to check out some of the new Gibson guitars they’ve got out there, like the Robot Guitar and all that! They say they’re going to put one in my hands, but it hasn’t happened yet. I’m totally a Gibson Les Paul guy all the way.

I just found out today that Hinder is also going to be featured in a comic book.

Joe: Yeah! Wow, I can’t believe how fast this is getting out! I think it was our publicist that had this idea about a comic book. Someone approached him about it, and they had this guy draw up a poster of us. We loved it. So we’re in a very early stage right now. We just met him again today, and we’re going to try and get a story line together. We’re going to have some fun with it and see what everybody thinks. We’re getting pretty creative with it. I think our headquarters are going to be Hugh Hefner’s villa at the top of the Palms! I’ve always wanted to see myself as a toon character, so it’s going to be a fun little project.

Yeah, you know you’ve made it when you have your own cartoon!

Joe: Yeah. We’ve been blessed with everything. It’s been a great thing for us.

Interview by Amy Kelly
Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2009

Comments

[Strato-Massacre]

dude looks like a 13 year old in that picture.

[USCENDONE BENE]

Obviously we were growing up in that time period and were hearing all that grunge crap and everything

I have no respect for this guy now. Slash fan boy bashing the likes of Mike McCready and Kurt Cobain? I can't agree with him there at all.

[ytse Jammer]

Grunge was far more important than these guys will be. A very generic boring band.

[cakeandpiemofo]

There still around eh. What a shame.

[{DSA_Soldier}]

I don’t think they ever really have anything negative to say. They just say they don’t like it. They’ll say, “Oh, they’ve got big, catchy melodies and big, huge choruses. It sounds like total arena rock, but I don’t like it.”

They don't have either. Hinder is a talentless, corporation made, boring rock and roll band.
I was hoping to maybe get some respect for the guitarists by reading this, but I found none.

[joemichaelson89]

i think think he needs to do some more blowing cuz thats al he good at.

good job loser. u want ur hair metal back. cry me a river, u suck, 80's hair metal sucks, and anyone who likes this guy probably blew him.

i mean lips of an angel was a horrible song even from a singer/songwriter's standpoint. and then that shitty solo. i mean wow u can run through the pentatonic scale homo.

and in his argument, it gets me chicks man! so its gotta be good music!

DUDE IF STEVEN TYLER CAN GET LAID ANYONE CAN. ****!

anyone that disrespects a genre only deserves likewise. the music he plays isn't even groundbreaking. its the same old shit all over again. oh cool MICK MARS played on ur album. Mick was one of the most uncreative guitarists of 80's. now, he would have had a statement yngwie played with them, or if Vai payed with them. but they probably think he's a joke also along with the rest of the world who doesnt have a vagina.

what is this world coming too? the 80's are dead. get over it, and blower can keep on blowing.

thank you.

[SoWrongItsMatt]

...Hinder is trashing other bands? How does that work?

[joemichaelson89]

I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album.

i bought them all so i could burn them

lol

[Shabalaba]

joemichaelson89 wrote:

i think think he needs to do some more blowing cuz thats al he good at.

good job loser. u want ur hair metal back. cry me a river, u suck, 80's hair metal sucks, and anyone who likes this guy probably blew him.

i mean lips of an angel was a horrible song even from a singer/songwriter's standpoint. and then that shitty solo. i mean wow u can run through the pentatonic scale homo.

and in his argument, it gets me chicks man! so its gotta be good music!

DUDE IF STEVEN TYLER CAN GET LAID ANYONE CAN. ****!

anyone that disrespects a genre only deserves likewise. the music he plays isn't even groundbreaking. its the same old shit all over again. oh cool MICK MARS played on ur album. Mick was one of the most uncreative guitarists of 80's. now, he would have had a statement yngwie played with them, or if Vai payed with them. but they probably think he's a joke also along with the rest of the world who doesnt have a vagina.

what is this world coming too? the 80's are dead. get over it, and blower can keep on blowing.

thank you.

Sorry but you come

[Shabalaba]

Across as a 10 year old whom cannot construct a argument

I don't see why he was bashing Grunge, doesn't put him in the best of light.

*Sorry for double post, it posted half way through my sentence -.-*

[PedophilePriest]

Well now that the teeny boppers who bought the first album are older,
plan on this record tanking. Oh yeah... and they're already frickin'
cartoons.

[Shread_6009]

jeez these guys have no integrity.

they cannot express their gear other than ``gibsons...because that other guy used them`` and ``old school`` when all the greatest guitars out their are for before they were born.

mick mars...what the ****....

i have m any vies on hair metal, but when toni iommi said himself that he hated all these hair metal bands that came out in the 80`s, maybe you should reconsider your values.

i hate their music...period

comic boooks about them. not only are you hair metal wannabes, your ripping off kiss as well!!!

and besides slash, do you guys listen to anyone else

and they all sound like douchebags in this interview.

i could go on, and im probably gonna get a lot of shit for this, but geez.

[Robbertto]

What a terrible band.

"The rock world is coming back to life"

Probably the most false statement I've ever heard. If anything, the last DECENT mainstream rock died off in the early nineties. Get over yourself Hinder

[Seidenschnur]

Joe "Blower" Garvey. Need I say more?

[DrShreddington]

the rock world is most certainly not coming back to life. the rock world died somewhere around the turn of the millennium, due to bands like this.

[nave890]

grunge crap

please, grunge was better than any of the hair metal corny bullsh**

hinder is terrible

[BlindS!ght]

I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album

You Know, even though that's a lot of cd's sold, 3 ½ million people is not really lot if you think about it(please don't tell me it's 3 million more than I've sold. Believe me I know). It's not like you could just walk up to any random person and expect them to like Hinder, the odds are highly against that happening actually.

I live in Houston which has a population of around 4 million. So the only people I know who like them are teenage girls...

If you say "I don't care what people with real musical taste think, I have a shitload of girls that like my music" (basically what he said), I think that makes you fail as a rock band. Though it does seem that their intentions are to drink and get laid more than making good music. so I suppose in their opinion, they are doing very well... It just kinda sucks for the rest of us that have to endure their shit music.

[DrShreddington]

nave890 wrote:

grunge crap

please, grunge was better than any of the hair metal corny bullsh**

hinder is terrible

Well the grunge portion I have to side with Hinder. Grunge is terrible, and 80s hair metal is brilliant.

[gtmom]

I'll break my silence and post for the firsty time here because I've been dying to say that "Lips of an Angel" is the cheesiest song and Hinder is the crappiest band EVER. I've heard a lot of music in my fourty two years and they get the yuck prize.

[gtmom]

Ok, take out the Y, duh. Ugh, they just suck so bad they frustrate me. It's annoying that anyone listens to them.

[dmiwshicldply]

nickelback is better than these guys, and i thought nickelback was horrible

i have lost all respect for this band just because of the cocky little shits that play guitar that think they are rock gods

[Grungy2425]

These guys are the biggest tools ****ing ever. Its such a joke to even interview them. They all come out as jocks who picked up guitars to get laid,and they dont even know anything about their equipment besides the point that they are all bent on selling 3 mil records! Wow guys way to go brah!! Hahaha and calling grunge crap was just the cherry on the cake. the noise my ass makes when i shit sounds better than anything hinder will ever do...

[USCENDONE BENE]

DrShreddington wrote:

Well the grunge portion I have to side with Hinder. Grunge is terrible, and 80s hair metal is brilliant.

Hahahahahaha

[gruntruck]

They suck. The only song that I can barely listen to is get stoned but after that it is shit. Also thay seem like a right bunch of big heads. Dissing a whole musical genre that was all about sincerity in its music i.e grunge and saying that there incincire shit copycat songs are better. I have lost all respect for them after this. Oh well it won't last anyway.

[Lgndkllr777]

Wow, so much immaturity shown by UGers in this article.

Hinder is not a bad band. They're not groundbreaking, and they're not the best, but still, their music is enjoyable and catchy.

[DrShreddington]

USCENDONE BENE wrote:

DrShreddington wrote:

Well the grunge portion I have to side with Hinder. Grunge is terrible, and 80s hair metal is brilliant.

Hahahahahaha

Im not going to try to persuade you into anything cus music taste is completely an opinion thing, but I for one, find Twisted Sister, Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Van Halen, Judas Priest, etc. all better than anything grunge has spewed out of its rancid belly.

[Bristlehead]

i'm going to suicide bomb one of their concerts

and **** motley crue too

[zombieguitarist]

ytse Jammer wrote:

Grunge was far more important than these guys will be. A very generic boring band.

My thoughts exactly

[artcore]

Mark doesn't seem like a bad guy, but this "Blower" has to be the most pretentious, sorry excuse for a musician I've ever heard of since Axl Rose, and he may even exceed that.

There was a time in the early 1990s when guitar solos had decreased and grunge was king of the music scene. Had that pretty much blown over by the time you guy formed the band?

Joe: ... Obviously we were growing up in that time period and were hearing all that grunge crap and everything. But we also remembered before all of that, seeing just how much fun it was to go out to a concert. That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s. It seemed like there were some concerts you left even more depressed than even when you got in.

That was just one of our main things that we wanted to do. We just wanted to bring back the fun. It’s what rock and roll is all about. It’s going out, being crazy, and doing our thing. It’s not an act! Even before we joined the band, we were always party animals and just always trying to live that rock and roll lifestyle. When everything happened, it just kind of kept on going.

I'd have to say, lack of guitar solos or "virtuosity" (which this guy doesn't even scratch in the first place) on any instrument doesn't diminish the quality of music. At least most grunge bands played for the sake of the MUSIC, not so they could show off and get drunk and laid. He ought to heed his own words: IT'S NOT AN ACT!

On the topic of his solos:

I don’t remember some of them because it was late at night and I was hammered. When I wake up the next morning I’m like, “Wow, that did actually sound good!”

This guy is an utter disgrace to any self-respecting musician - not even knowing what he's doing at the time of playing. What a joker, I hope he screws up onstage.

I can only say I couldn't have thought of a better nickname than Blower for him. I just hope everyone else sees through these guys' purpose in making music and doesn't purchase their next album.

[artcore]

One more thing, realize everyone that these guys are trying to imitate 80's hair metal. I'm not trying to stereotype, but many acts of this era shared the same ideals: money, sex, and alcohol. These guys are only parodying themselves.

[fitterhappier34]

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

[Patty-cakez]

LOL. Joe Blower.

Self-pwn.

[fender456]

cakeandpiemofo wrote:

There still around eh. What a shame.

im right there with you dude, hinder sucks!!!!!

[fender456]

good to know alot of people hate hinder!!!!!

[fitterhappier34]

Patty-cakez wrote:

LOL. Joe Blower.

Self-pwn.

I LOL'ed with intensity.

[fitterhappier34]

It's so fascinating. There were more positive comments on a Fall Out Boy article that I saw a while back. I definitely don't like Fall Out Boy, but damn. That means that Hinder fails harder. Which is obvious. But that's pretty sad. LOL.

[acetherockstar]

fender456 wrote:

good to know alot of people hate hinder!!!!!

yea seriously does anyone like this band besides 13 and 14 year old girls?

[David_Bowie=GOD]

acetherockstar wrote:

fender456 wrote:

good to know alot of people hate hinder!!!!!

yea seriously does anyone like this band besides 13 and 14 year old girls?

dont think so, least no one who listens to good music.

btw, that guitarist needs to shave that pubic hair he calls a beard.

[JezuzFingerz]

Grungy2425 wrote:

These guys are the biggest tools ****ing ever. Its such a joke to even interview them. They all come out as jocks who picked up guitars to get laid,and they dont even know anything about their equipment besides the point that they are all bent on selling 3 mil records! Wow guys way to go brah!! Hahaha and calling grunge crap was just the cherry on the cake.

+9001

[bmxsulli]

Grungy2425 wrote:
...and calling grunge crap was just the cherry on the cake.

ummmmm
its icing on the cake. you put cherries on sundaes.

but good point.

[yankovicfan3125]

Joe Blower, the name suits him.
Anyone else notice the picture makes him look 8 years old?
And his hero guitarist is Slash, that doesn't really help the band at all .
They suck anyway. Grainy heavy guitar sound is good once in a while but their guitar stuff you cant even tell what they're playing.
Hinder sucks.
Another thing, calling Grunge crap is not a good choice if you want to appeal to rock fans. Grunge influenced a lot. And then they say they just go out and have fun at a concert. I believe that's exactly what grunge bands like Nirvana and Mudhoney did, they just screwed around and had a good time.
Screw this son of a bitch, his band sucks.

[Jmoarguitar]

all i read was the title, but i feel it's coming back too, people seem to be getting bored of rap, but i wouldn't have suspected someone from hinder saying it, lol.

[Gormanilius]

fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

I agree. Cept the 80's bands part. They had some pretty good ones too. But i suppose the ones I like for the most part made music in the 90's and 200's as well. I like Europe and a few others.

Checked.

[0h The Horror]

I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album

A lot more people than 3 mil bought Lil' Wayne's new album too. Does that make him good?

[nirvannilee]

TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT
LMFAO
every member of this band is a *****
!
joe blower over there should quit using his guitar to try to compensate for his non-existent dick

[Laddiebuck]

Lol this is amazing. There hasn't been one positive comment yet. Just shows what true music fans think of Hinder and the Blower.

btw, HINDER SUCKS

[SLASH.94]

So if i came out with a band that had a 70's blues-rock vibe to it you'd all hate it because it isnt new. (BTW this is a question to the people in the comments bashing these guys because they are attempting to bring back the 80's)

[imills]

Laddiebuck wrote:

Lol this is amazing. There hasn't been one positive comment yet. Just shows what true music fans think of Hinder and the Blower.

btw, HINDER SUCKS

HINDER'S the WORST BAND EVER

i hope that was bold, just trying to help out laddiebuck

[Dragon Master]

First of all, rock is coming back, but these guys aren't it. In case you noticed, alternative rock isn't grunge anymore. That means that these guys are a mainstream band and are a joke.

[Dragon Master]

Plus, they're a bunch of drunks, jocks, and are more of a country band.

[Shredslayer]

oh please guys, hair metal was far better than that grunge shit, i thought as guitarists you guys would understand that. Any beginner guitarist could make a song as good as anything nirvana made.

However, Hinder can't preach. I suggest they start making some real kick ass songs before they go on about how great their music is.

[Dragon Master]

Shredslayer wrote:

oh please guys, hair metal was far better than that grunge shit, i thought as guitarists you guys would understand that. Any beginner guitarist could make a song as good as anything nirvana made.

However, Hinder can't preach. I suggest they start making some real kick ass songs before they go on about how great their music is.

Then why didn't they?

[SynthSilver]

SLASH.94 wrote:

So if i came out with a band that had a 70's blues-rock vibe to it you'd all hate it because it isnt new. (BTW this is a question to the people in the comments bashing these guys because they are attempting to bring back the 80's)

It's not doing something that's already been done to death that irritates me, it's doing it poorly and sounding like an uneducated tool ("Slash! Les Pauls! Old School! Girls! BEER!!") that make me hate it.

[TunerAddict]

I hope their tour bus drives off a cliff.

[joemichaelson89]

Shabalaba wrote:

Across as a 10 year old whom cannot construct a argument

I don't see why he was bashing Grunge, doesn't put him in the best of light.

*Sorry for double post, it posted half way through my sentence -.-*

baha sir u need to calm down hahah

this was not an argumant if u couldnt tell lol haha i love forums this is great

i was venting hahahahahahahahaha

people these days

[joemichaelson89]

DrShreddington wrote:

nave890 wrote:

grunge crap

please, grunge was better than any of the hair metal corny bullsh**

hinder is terrible

Well the grunge portion I have to side with Hinder. Grunge is terrible, and 80s hair metal is brilliant.

the roflcopters r lollerskating hahahahahah

how about u go back to ur room and cover another blues song like every 80's hair band ok ?

[Y2A 66]

the only reason they sold all of those albums is because of one really cheesy power ballad that a bunch of young girls bought.
They have zero credibility as a rock band...especially after dissing grunge. I think layne and kurt are rolling over their graves wishing they could be here to destroy these bands all over again.

[SlayerOfTheGods]

This band has no right talking about rock, since they are at the forefront of the genre that killed it, sure a scene that labels itself as rock is emerging, but it's just some gay pop with overdriven guitars. The description at the beginning is a disgrace to music and whoever wrote that should be plunged into an outhouse-hole.

[Strato-Massacre]

why do people like this sh*t? i mean, there are tons of bands that have steven tyler and slash fanboys in them, why do these guys get to be famous?most boring solos, sh*tiest melodies, and even chad kroeger writes better lyrics.

[aerogun123]

all u guys thrashing this band are *******s u guys are just pissed cause your pussies and jealous that your bull**** grunge bands aren't as good as these guys this band is no guns n roses but they're better than that sh*t called rap

[Randaman]

44 comments posted, 3 removed | this article is 94% spam-free

...and not any single 1 positive

life is good

[mrjimborinsane]

they sound like 14 year olds bragging about how often they get drunk and get laid. It's not really that big a deal after you turn 18, its just something people do. Maybe if they weren't so hammered all the time they might be able to write some decent songs. "Get stoned" was the only good song, and I really liked it.

How big is UG? Do you reckon these douchebags read these comments? If they do, then guys, don't hate on grunge, Kurt was a musical genious, and yes he did a lot of drugs but he denied it all the time, he certainly didn't brag about it.

It sounds like GNR are the only bad they've ever heard of/listened to. "Oh Slash is my hero, he's the coolest best guitarist like ever" kind of thing. Again they're acting like 14 year olds. Grow up dickwads!

[Dragon Master]

Here's mud in your eye; These guys are tools who just like the partying aspect of rock and roll, not the music itself. Grunge was all about the music, not a lifestyle of decadence that nobody would take up in their right minds. Besides, if you want to play AC/DC-inspired rock, do it. Not hair metal. GNR-inspired rock, do it. Not hair metal.

[Dragon Master]

mrjimborinsane wrote:

they sound like 14 year olds bragging about how often they get drunk and get laid. It's not really that big a deal after you turn 18, its just something people do. Maybe if they weren't so hammered all the time they might be able to write some decent songs. "Get stoned" was the only good song, and I really liked it.

How big is UG? Do you reckon these douchebags read these comments? If they do, then guys, don't hate on grunge, Kurt was a musical genious, and yes he did a lot of drugs but he denied it all the time, he certainly didn't brag about it.

It sounds like GNR are the only bad they've ever heard of/listened to. "Oh Slash is my hero, he's the coolest best guitarist like ever" kind of thing. Again they're acting like 14 year olds. Grow up dickwads!

A-Men. GNR is an awesome band, but there are alot of bands you can listen to. I think that if these guys listened to Jane's Addiction, they'd change their mind about alternative rock.

[lockedandlogan]

If I could choose any group of people to be erased from the planet I would choose Hinder...

Or racists. That's just how low they are.

[DrShreddington]

I think this band would be bullshiting themselves alot less if they renamed their band "Mainstream" and rename their records "Money over music".

aerogun123 wrote:

all u guys thrashing this band are *****s u guys are just pissed cause your pussies and jealous that your bull**** grunge bands aren't as good as these guys this band is no guns n roses but they're better than that sh*t called rap

better than rap? Oh boy, theres an accomplishment for you. And I actually have to disagree. Yes, I can honestly say (with a straight face) that there are (god forbid) rap artists better than Hinder. (I am of course referring to the rappers who sing about something other than just womens bums.)

I think this band would be bullshiting themselves alot less if they renamed their band "Mainstream" and rename their records "Money over music".

[artcore]

oh please guys, hair metal was far better than that grunge shit, i thought as guitarists you guys would understand that. Any beginner guitarist could make a song as good as anything nirvana made.

However, Hinder can't preach. I suggest they start making some real kick ass songs before they go on about how great their music is.

Like I said previously, lack of guitar technicality DOES NOT diminish a song's worth. But that doesn't justify Nirvana, I still think they're a bit overrated.

Fact of the matter is this: I'd rather listen to something like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, or Weezer than reverb-ridden snare and the like on a generic over-produced 80's hair metal song. Some of those songs were so ridiculously cheesy. You can't polish a turd of a song with a guitar solo.

[Viking_Swede666]

SoWrongItsMatt wrote:

...Hinder is trashing other bands? How does that work?

my thoughs exactly.

[.:st.anger:.]

"blower" - yeah that's accurate

[ZAK963]

i guess his nickname is "blower" for a good reason

[football4224]

SlayerOfTheGods wrote:

This band has no right talking about rock, since they are at the forefront of the genre that killed it...

Could not have said it better myself. Hinder is nothing more than another one of the million crappy pop alternative rock bands that was responsible for killing true rock, and yet Blower is declaring Hinder as the revival of 80's metal? Quite ridiculous, and thats not even mentioning that he sounds like a total prick in this interview.

[Th6r6a6sH]

I recently fired a guitarist for over-ego when it came to his participation in a band. He was very cocky, narcissistic, and un-creative in his work. I told him he'd never get anywhere in his music.

Dammit, I should've known he'd join f*ckin HINDER.

But seriously, This attitude has no place in music. Hinder are disgracing us all who play rock for both fun and as a living. I will enjoy a laugh when in a few years they are all back home living in an apartment with their parents or two gay roommates and failing at any attempt at music because of what douches they are.

[bertismydog31]

blower....um..?

[kaizerkhan13]

{DSA_Soldier} wrote:

I don’t think they ever really have anything negative to say. They just say they don’t like it. They’ll say, “Oh, they’ve got big, catchy melodies and big, huge choruses. It sounds like total arena rock, but I don’t like it.”

They don't have either. Hinder is a talentless, corporation made, boring rock and roll band.
I was hoping to maybe get some respect for the guitarists by reading this, but I found none.

same here. apparently this is all mainstream music has to offer now...musics always been a business, but when these guys and the jonas brothers all are thats on the radio...wtf.

[MrYoshida]

If these guys actually sounded like any of the decent/good 80's stuff they seem to love (GNR,etc) then maybe I wouldn't care if they had the 80's hair metal attitude. But sadly, Hinder doesn't sound like anything good, half-way good, or even cheesy good from the 80's.

Come on guys, if you love Slash so much, why don't you learn to play something half as good as he plays?

And you (Blower) seriously sound like Vince Neil bashing grunge, which I find hilarious hahaha.

[Underhand]

all u guys thrashing this band are *****s u guys are just pissed cause your pussies and jealous that your bull**** grunge bands aren't as good as these guys this band is no guns n roses but they're better than that sh*t called rap

I'll admit that rap is some of $#!ttiest music on the planet but hinder is nowhere near as good as those talentless talkers.

[Underhand]

[macmancometh]

UG is awesome.

I've never seen a band get trashed like this in an article. Hinder deserves it completely.

[frozen_sun]

these guys went from simple talentless group to sh*tty talentless shit heads...

[etniesmuzikskat]

who the **** actually likes this band?

[Matetz]

"They can say what they say, but we really just don’t give a shit. Whatever they put in, that’s they’re ****ing opinion. We’re having a good ****ing time, and our fans are having a great ****ing time."

Rawr, I'm so ****in' ****y evil and ****ing shitty angry as ****!

[roundwoundsound]

wow. that piece of shit actually had the nerve to call grunge crap.what a ****ing moron.all they do is write songs about girls,and take after nickleback,and he says that?? ****ing please.anyone on this site is at least 1000x more talented than they are.****ing hinder..

[roundwoundsound]

aerogun123 wrote:

all u guys thrashing this band are *****s u guys are just pissed cause your pussies and jealous that your bull**** grunge bands aren't as good as these guys this band is no guns n roses but they're better than that sh*t called rap

good job of misusing the word jealous. stupid ****.

[UrbanSombrero]

Reading this interview is enough to make you lose all faith in musicianship.

First of all, the sheer magnitude of ignorance exhibited by these morons, along with their inane commentary on the state of rock music past and present, completely overshadows anything meaningful and relevant that an insightful rock musician of today might say. It's almost as if this band is in a psychologically protective state in which their subconscious shuts down higher brain functions to the point where they become blissfully unaware of what they are doing or saying at any singular point in time.

Here in this interview we see yet more affirmation of the prescience held by rock music pessimists who long ago wrote off all hope of the genre seeing reinvigoration any time soon. That such a shameful lack of awareness in regards to rock and roll's historical foundations and subsequent evolution is not only tolerated by the industry but advanced upon is upsetting, if not wholly unforeseen.

[Cianyx]

Mark: I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album. What the critics say, I don’t really care about. I actually kind of get online and read as much as I can because it just cracks me up. I don’t think they ever really have anything negative to say. They just say they don’t like it. They’ll say, “Oh, they’ve got big, catchy melodies and big, huge choruses. It sounds like total arena rock, but I don’t like it.” It’s like, “Well, what’s negative? What do you not like about it?”

He gets off on insults?!?!

[les_paul_01]

Yeah, it was ’01. Obviously we were growing up in that time period and were hearing all that grunge crap and everything

I think everybody started out with a Fender or something like that

does this guy actually have anything to say?

all this seems to be is him trashing anything not directly linked to 80s-era glam metal, which clearly is the be-all and end-all of music.

i thought becoming a better musician meant absorbing as many different styles and tastes as possible, not becoming attached to one style and refusing to admit any other has any artistic credibility.

[dale-banez]

+10 lulz for shitty nickname

[Lou_dog 71]

hahahaha
hinder....

[UrbanSombrero]

Coming back now, let me state pre-emptively that I fully understand all of what I am about to say has not only been said thousands of times before me ad nauseum but is painfully obvious to anyone who might actually read this comment. That being said, humor me here.

For a good example of the preponderance of asshatery of which I spoke previously, look no further than UG, specifically at the Crooked X interview posted previous to this. Jesse Cooper is commanding a great deal more respect from UG commenters after his interview than Hinder has during it's entire life-span by anyone with even an elementary understanding of rock music. As an aside, the fact that this band's life-span encompasses more than a week is a strong sign from the Universe saying that it's given up on orchestrating our evolution and is now shifting it's attention to the amoebas on Perseus 9.

Chalk this garnered respect up to the majority of UG commenters being, we hope, inherently more musically aware than the aggregate public. I respect the young musician for being able to reach beyond his years for inspiration from bands that have at least a passing claim to rock cultural legitimacy. Collectively, the cognitive abilities at Hinder's disposal are tragically ill-equipped accomplish this successfully.

The woeful and all encompassing point is best summarized thusly: Hinder has sold 3 million+ albums while Crooked X has, as far as I know, sold 3. The record industry is wallowing in a state in which bands like Hinder enjoy great success while Crooked X has arguably been treated (until recently) as little more than a novelty, however unfair and backwards this may be based upon their respective merits. It's safe to say Crooked X hasn't registered on the majority of people's radars.

Yet.

I do not count myself among the rock and roll doomsayers; I'm an optimist. Change is coming. Hopefully sooner rather than later so we might enjoy it before being absorbed into the galaxy-spanning hivemind organism of Perseus 9.

[August_Burns]

Lgndkllr777 wrote:

Wow, so much immaturity shown by UGers in this article.

Hinder is not a bad band. They're not groundbreaking, and they're not the best, but still, their music is enjoyable and catchy.

Annoying commercial jingles are catchy. That doesn't mean anything. Hinder is garbage.
Grunge crap? Wtf is wrong with this band, its bad enough that they exist to pollute the airwaves, but trashing other bands? That's ludicrous.

I am SOOOO happy to see that the UG community sees this, because every moron where I live thinks hinder is godly..

[IamGod 666]

UrbanSombrero wrote:

Reading this interview is enough to make you lose all faith in musicianship.

First of all, the sheer magnitude of ignorance exhibited by these morons, along with their inane commentary on the state of rock music past and present, completely overshadows anything meaningful and relevant that an insightful rock musician of today might say. It's almost as if this band is in a psychologically protective state in which their subconscious shuts down higher brain functions to the point where they become blissfully unaware of what they are doing or saying at any singular point in time.

Here in this interview we see yet more affirmation of the prescience held by rock music pessimists who long ago wrote off all hope of the genre seeing reinvigoration any time soon. That such a shameful lack of awareness in regards to rock and roll's historical foundations and subsequent evolution is not only tolerated by the industry but advanced upon is upsetting, if not wholly unforeseen.

+1, minus the psychoanalysis

[pickSlidin]

Hinder, Nickelback,Daughtry and all of those other generic "post grunge" rock bands make me sick. They all try to copy the grunge style, but fail miserably. I think that Blink 182 is and always will be the ONLY good pop-punk band because every other weird named poppunk band nowadays tries to imitate Blink's style but they fail miserably too. "The Rock World is Coming Back to Life", my ass.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

DrShreddington wrote:

nave890 wrote:

grunge crap

please, grunge was better than any of the hair metal corny bullsh**

hinder is terrible

Well the grunge portion I have to side with Hinder. Grunge is terrible, and 80s hair metal is brilliant.

oh yay, another song about trying to screw some chick while the person singing it looks like the chick hes trying to do.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

also, to the article where they said solos were not in grunge, grunge had far better solos than hair metal, many of them might not have been mindless shred but grunge still had better solos.

ever heard of soundgarden, alice in chains, or even pearl jam? just because nirvana didnt have a lot of solos doesn't mean all grunge bands didnt have solos, lots of grunge bands still soloed, and they were still awesome.

anyone who disagrees with me, go listen to reach down - temple of the dog. if you still think that grunge had bad solos you should probably listen to this generic band, because you are a musical retard.

[tyler_coleman]

It’s probably because we were blessed to sell albums. It is kind of sad for the people that don’t sell all those albums.

I didn't mind these guys before, but after this. Jesus.

I do appreciate that somebody other than FOB is getting the flaming this time. And the mods seem to cover their eyes.

[BonezShaker]

pure grunge is the few true rock music left in tis world....

[FinderofNemo]

I like how everyone here hates Hinder. You guys make my day lol.

[the.eliminator]

-----i love how literally everyone hates these guys, i in no way disagree. as for the previous comment praising grunge as the last rock left.....eh.....that i disagree with. metal up your ass my friends

[Harvey_Danger]

UG has restored my faith in humanity.

[Hirvikala]

Harvey_Danger wrote:

UG has restored my faith in humanity.

oh my.. hahahahahaha

[m0o]

pickSlidin wrote:

Hinder, Nickelback,Daughtry and all of those other generic "post grunge" rock bands make me sick. They all try to copy the grunge style, but fail miserably. I think that Blink 182 is and always will be the ONLY good pop-punk band because every other weird named poppunk band nowadays tries to imitate Blink's style but they fail miserably too. "The Rock World is Coming Back to Life", my ass.

first of all nickelback, daughtry and hinder dont really sound grungy at all.. grunge is okay (with the exception of Nirvana which is FUCKING BRILLIANT)

and dude.. blink 182? REALLY?

[littleleo88]

BonezShaker wrote:

pure grunge is the few true rock music left in tis world....

sorry, but no. grunge was for all those people that hardly saw the 80s, who stayed locked in their room with the curtains closed in a fury of masturbation.

on topic, i like hinder - although this guy seems a bit full of himself. doesnt stop them writing good music though.

[Deftones_84]

Worst band ever. It'll all come together this year when Hinder gets their asses boo'ed off stage.

[Shabalaba]

UrbanSombrero wrote:

Reading this interview is enough to make you lose all faith in musicianship.

First of all, the sheer magnitude of ignorance exhibited by these morons, along with their inane commentary on the state of rock music past and present, completely overshadows anything meaningful and relevant that an insightful rock musician of today might say. It's almost as if this band is in a psychologically protective state in which their subconscious shuts down higher brain functions to the point where they become blissfully unaware of what they are doing or saying at any singular point in time.

Here in this interview we see yet more affirmation of the prescience held by rock music pessimists who long ago wrote off all hope of the genre seeing reinvigoration any time soon. That such a shameful lack of awareness in regards to rock and roll's historical foundations and subsequent evolution is not only tolerated by the industry but advanced upon is upsetting, if not wholly unforeseen.

This is exactly my thoughts

pickSlidin wrote:

Hinder, Nickelback,Daughtry and all of those other generic "post grunge" rock bands make me sick. They all try to copy the grunge style, but fail miserably. I think that Blink 182 is and always will be the ONLY good pop-punk band because every other weird named poppunk band nowadays tries to imitate Blink's style but they fail miserably too. "The Rock World is Coming Back to Life", my ass.

Sorry but there is so much fail in this statement. Where does Blink even come into this? Totally different sound to these, and even if you don't like Nickelback they are great song writers, i bet i will get someone who finds it necessary to flame me but i am past caring.

Hinder will die down within a few years, they will never get as big as their egos think

[Cianyx]

Hinder = Songs about screwing a chick = Rap with guitars

[AwesomeDrummer]

hinder guitarist: Yeah, it was ’01. Obviously we were growing up in that time period and were hearing all that grunge crap and everything. But we also remembered before all of that, seeing just how much fun it was to go out to a concert. That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s. It seemed like there were some concerts you left even more depressed than even when you got in.

is he freakin' serious? not only did he bag out another genre (which may i add, was one of the best) but he also goes onto say that in order to have a good time you need to get pissed and laid. That's ridiculous. What a ****wit, i mean, these guys have pretty much stolen music from the influences, and will never cite to be anything more then a bunch of has-beens. Atleast Bands like Nickelback (even if they do imitate) don't go around saying that other genres were crap. stating your opinion of a genre and bagging a genre are two completely different things. If you wish to show your distaste for a genre, do it with respect, for millions more people probably like it than this group of *******s.

[BobSlay]

joemichaelson89 wrote:

i think think he needs to do some more blowing cuz thats al he good at.

good job loser. u want ur hair metal back. cry me a river, u suck, 80's hair metal sucks, and anyone who likes this guy probably blew him.

i mean lips of an angel was a horrible song even from a singer/songwriter's standpoint. and then that shitty solo. i mean wow u can run through the pentatonic scale homo.

and in his argument, it gets me chicks man! so its gotta be good music!

DUDE IF STEVEN TYLER CAN GET LAID ANYONE CAN. ****!

anyone that disrespects a genre only deserves likewise. the music he plays isn't even groundbreaking. its the same old shit all over again. oh cool MICK MARS played on ur album. Mick was one of the most uncreative guitarists of 80's. now, he would have had a statement yngwie played with them, or if Vai payed with them. but they probably think he's a joke also along with the rest of the world who doesnt have a vagina.

what is this world coming too? the 80's are dead. get over it, and blower can keep on blowing.

thank you.

[tanman]

Grungy2425 wrote:

These guys are the biggest tools ****ing ever. Its such a joke to even interview them. They all come out as jocks who picked up guitars to get laid,and they dont even know anything about their equipment besides the point that they are all bent on selling 3 mil records! Wow guys way to go brah!! Hahaha and calling grunge crap was just the cherry on the cake. the noise my ass makes when i shit sounds better than anything hinder will ever do...

I wish I could have come up with something so accurate. Since my brain cannot fabricate such a genius statement, I'll just add this: This guy says he used amps that he thinks Led Zeppelin used "or something." Anyone in a rock band that had the opportunity to use an amp that Jimmy Page once used will not forget it, will be highly excited by it and would be goddamn certain of what they had used. It's clear these imbeciles don't give a f*ck about music. Although, that's arguably clear listening to the "music" they play.

[vans1170]

man, lips of an angel is so romantic
"my girls in the next room, sometimes i wish she was you"
trailer park trash love!!

[VoodooChild15]

I woke up about five minutes ago, so I can't really get myself to contribute anything thoughtful and coherent. These guys are major league *******s, though.

[matsif]

first, I agree with all above negative posts directed at hinder. they suck (or blow as the case may be...) and why haven't the people who complained about rap music being degrading to women complained about these pompous a**holes? its the same thing, cept it has guitars. seriously, hypocrite much?

second, you can't go off and say grunge is crap. grunge is better musically than almost all music from the entire decade of the 80's, let alone hair bands. and to say something that there were no solo's in grunge means you are more ignorant than I thought possible. nirvana is great, but they're not the only grunge band.

the noise my ass makes when i shit sounds better than anything hinder will ever do...

^^quoted for truth, this man has much to teach us

hinder sucks, they will be forgotten after their next album flops because of its crappy music.

[Izzy_Bryce]

USCENDONE BENE wrote:

Obviously we were growing up in that time period and were hearing all that grunge crap and everything

I have no respect for this guy now. Slash fan boy bashing the likes of Mike McCready and Kurt Cobain? I can't agree with him there at all.

now hold on he never took a direct hit at kurt or mike. im a huge nirvana fan but quite frankly i think pearl jam sucks. most of the grunge back then did suck, a bunch of nirvana wannabes. actually yeah i really agree with these guys now.

[Dragon Master]

FinderofNemo wrote:

I like how everyone here hates Hinder. You guys make my day lol.

Anytime you want. I'm obliged. Just give me a call and I'll hate Hinder's music, along with every grunge ripoff band.

If you ask me, Chad Kroeger and Nickelback are just a bunch of macho men who muscle their way into music to get babes. Same with Hinder. They're the exact same band. As for hair metal, there were good and bad bands. These guys fit in the latter category. Guns N Roses were not a hair metal band. They actually defied the trend and made good music. Hinder followed a trend(i.e. Post grunge.)
As I said, if these guys listened to Jane's Addiction, they'd change their minds. I mean, Jane's Addiction sound rock and roll enough and are actually more of a lifestyle band than most grunge bands of the 1990s. They drank, had sex, and did every other thing that most people wouldn't afford to do.

Rechecked.

Keep the comments civil.

[Kastöm]

Attitude wise, these guys don't seem too smart. Possibly one of the dumbest things you could possibly do in an interview is put down an entire music genre, especially when the band making the statement isn't exactly known for any level of originality or virtuosity.

Personally, I'm not exactly a fan of grunge, but if I ever got interviewed about something like that I would just say "I don't exactly like grunge". not say that an entire music genre sucks. Amazing how if you don't think about what you say you can end up making a couple million enemies with one sentence.

[Goatface]

whether you like grunge or not is your own personal taste obviously, but anyone who knows anything about music and good songs has to admit that some of the best written songs of all time came out in that era. I mean Black Hole Sun, Jeremy, Rooster, and of course Smells Like Teen Spirit, just to name a few. Guys like Jerry Cantrell and Kim Thaiyl (however you spell it) can play circles around most of the 80's players.

[nirvannilee]

tanman wrote:

I wish I could have come up with something so accurate. Since my brain cannot fabricate such a genius statement, I'll just add this: This guy says he used amps that he thinks Led Zeppelin used "or something." Anyone in a rock band that had the opportunity to use an amp that Jimmy Page once used will not forget it, will be highly excited by it and would be goddamn certain of what they had used. It's clear these imbeciles don't give a f*ck about music. Although, that's arguably clear listening to the "music" they play.

EXACTLY

[yankovicfan3125]

Wow haha I love UG so much, it's good to now some people still like real music.

They obviously don't know ANYTHING about music, seeing as they don't even know what kind of amps and gear they have. And they like Gibson because Slash used one, wow. Then he goes into crap about how Gibson is better than Fender. If he knew anything he'd realize Fender was used by blues guitarists who don't turn distortion all the way up like him.

Wow I cannot even express in words the idiocy of Hinder. This whole article insults themselves, and it is an interview with them....

Then they clearly don't know what Music Theory is, andhe doesn't answer the question about harmonics.

Total idiots.

[Wilomentena]

his nickname is 'blower' need i say more.....lol

[yankovicfan3125]

May I also add, it sounds like the only guitar terms they know are "Gibson" and "Les Paul" they don't say any other types, except "Fender".

[FlyingPirahna]

If 80's rock was unwelcome 15 years ago, it shouldn't be welcomed again, in an even more dumbed-down form. I don't want to hear shallow songs about sex, I want to hear something with a meaning to it. Or, at the very least, something vaguely original.

[P Burg]

Lmao, I already hated this band enough, but reading this article totally sealed the deal. After the Blowmeister said "grunge crap", I started laughing so hard. Yes, because musical geniuses like Layne Staley/Jerry Cantrell, Chris Cornell, Mike McCready/Eddie Vedder, and Kurt Cobain were pretty worthless. I mean, everyone knows that everything these guys produced was total shit. When I look for high-quality music, I look to bands like Hinder, who are unsuccessfully trying to recreate probably the shittiest genre of music, ever. It's bad enough I have to listen to a bunch of whiny bitches playing Sweet Child O' Mine or Welcome to the Jungle everytime I turn on the radio, now I have bands trying to recreate this garbage? But I mean, when you talk about guitar virtuosos, Slash's name is always the first one mentioned. Everyone knows November Rain is guitar work at its finest. Hell, if Hinder said it, it must be true.

[Sabscope]

I agree with many things he said, except of course you can't dismiss an entire genre so readily - Alice In Chains made some good stuff, but I personally have the opinion that Nirvana weren't actually very talented and their music bores me... so why do they remind me of Hinder? Rock is gunna come back, in a big way. But not because of these *******s. I listened to their music with an open mind - and it blows.

[dfinch10]

I hate gibson/marshall snobs

[Sabscope]

This does no bode well for rock music. I agree that it will come back in some form, something new and hardhitting - but it won't be through Hinder. Now, I'm not a massive fan of grunge, and most people here seem to be, and I think if you want to say it's boring, I can't honestly disagree. That's a personal opinion of mine.
BUT - I agree with everything that's been said about Hinder - they don't know shit. They're not musicians, they're tools. The reason they're big is because they're an unimaginative producer's wet dream - chords, some drums, some singing - and that's it. Mix it all up and you get a song that is so boring it's a wonder they can get to the end of it.

[salsawords]

I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album. What the critics say, I don’t really care about.

What he fails to realize is that most of those people that "dug" it are little girls who won't listen to the album after it isn't cool anymore. They're a crappy trend. I hate grunge and I would rather listen to Alice In Chains than Hinder any day.

[guitarnoobie]

I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album.

What a ****ing moron. Britney Spears has sold millions of albums too. That doesn't mean her music is good. These guys are fake as **** and deserved to be called out on it.

[SMITH05]

Ok UG apparently deleted my comment cuz it was idk, too truthful and mean...wah, cry me a river....so I'll retype it, using less vulgar language

Dear Hinder,

You suck

Sincerely, Music

[Patrick L]

I swear if I have to live through another decade of shitty music I'm going to kill myself...

[gtmom]

Lol! I, too, adore you all for hating Hinder. I don't care what else you like or don't like; if you think Hinder (dorkiest name ever) sucks then you're a-ok. LOL!

[BGrem261]

Seeing that guy in his picture first screamed to me that he should have "I play guitar cause it was the only way for me to get some" tattooed on his forehead! Kept going on about how they partied hard before forming band seems like he is over compensating... and Joe just so you know

Grunge > anything your band will ever amount too...

[djdl]

"The Rock World Is Coming Back To Life"? Not judging by the sound of your band, mate.....

[joemichaelson89]

Mark: I’m not really a gearhead. I don’t have the good ear for getting the sound tweaked in right, and that’s where our producer comes in.

wtf? i mean freakin seriously! this **** doesnt even know what the hell hes doing!

if ur ripping people off with ur music u should at have knowledge about what ur playin! both of these guys are fu ckups i mean seriously.

i can get laid..... and ummmm..... ummm.... we used an amp that jimmy page used..... i think ? ....ummm.....

hey moron it doesnt take a gear head to know what amp he's using, what guitar hes playing, what tubes he is running, what pickups are in the guitar, and how to set up an EQ that u like. the producer shouldnt make ur sound, u shuld make ur own sound u poser.

i mean seriously its like an 8 year old picked up a guitar one day and said i have a les paul... that ummm is kinda like jimmy page's.... and my dad.... um bought me a tube amp! omg im playing tubes! wat r tubes?

these guys are a joke and should seriosuly get their shit together b4 they think they EVER get respect from the guitar community. so what Blower, u sucked some dicks and that y u have the name. and u suck at guitar so dont worry about it.

Patrick L wrote:

I swear if I have to live through another decade of shitty music I'm going to kill myself...

i agree, the only thing that could ever be revived is a 90's alt scene. it was soo creative and just nuts all together.

and whoever made this quote about the 90's not having solos. Billy Corgan could walk all over this guy and alot of guitarists fromt he 80's. and Billy even uses fuzz! sooo much harder to solo with. there is a reason The Smashing Pumpkins were the kig of alternative, its not becuz they sucked either.

the alternative scene was not just Nirvana. kurt cobain was a great songwriter but couldnt play a solo to save his life. RIP kurt.

i mean even listen to black hole sun - soundgarden... its has a pretty intense solo in it also. the best part about alll of these solos is that they are all different. most 80's bands used the same phrases over and over and over and over and over..... hair/glam metal shodl have died alot sooner than it did.

oh and for the record gnr is not hair metal. its rock. period. gnr was breaking away form the hair metal trend. thank GOD Pantera, Death, and At the Gates crushed it and gave metal a better name and put it where it is today.

i hate hinder and their stupid ass band members

[Ironpriest]

I Absolutely love 80's hair metal.
Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Skid Row, Van Halen, all of it! But Hinder isn't 80's hair metal, Hinder is rubbish!

Looks like my band will have to bring the 80's back.

[Ironpriest]

pickSlidin wrote:

Hinder, Nickelback,Daughtry and all of those other generic "post grunge" rock bands make me sick. They all try to copy the grunge style, but fail miserably. I think that Blink 182 is and always will be the ONLY good pop-punk band because every other weird named poppunk band nowadays tries to imitate Blink's style but they fail miserably too. "The Rock World is Coming Back to Life", my ass.

I don't know what your talking about, but Green Day are hands down the greatest pop rock band around.

[joemichaelson89]

Ironpriest wrote:

I Absolutely love 80's hair metal.
Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Skid Row, Van Halen, all of it! But Hinder isn't 80's hair metal, Hinder is rubbish!

Looks like my band will have to bring the 80's back.

if u take out all the other bands but iron maiden. u got me in for 80's revival. Im not a huge fan, but its the only one that wasnt glam. and glam is fail.

[joemichaelson89]

i suppose priest want either

[pinkhaze29]

Since when was grunge an act?

[Bignose]

So uh... why interview such a bland band?

[joemichaelson89]

probably to see them get ripped to shreds

[Grungy2425]

P Burg wrote:

Lmao, I already hated this band enough, but reading this article totally sealed the deal. After the Blowmeister said "grunge crap", I started laughing so hard. Yes, because musical geniuses like Layne Staley/Jerry Cantrell, Chris Cornell, Mike McCready/Eddie Vedder, and Kurt Cobain were pretty worthless. I mean, everyone knows that everything these guys produced was total shit. When I look for high-quality music, I look to bands like Hinder, who are unsuccessfully trying to recreate probably the shittiest genre of music, ever. It's bad enough I have to listen to a bunch of whiny bitches playing Sweet Child O' Mine or Welcome to the Jungle everytime I turn on the radio, now I have bands trying to recreate this garbage? But I mean, when you talk about guitar virtuosos, Slash's name is always the first one mentioned. Everyone knows November Rain is guitar work at its finest. Hell, if Hinder said it, it must be true.

My friend, you can surely make me laugh! LoL! Bravo

[Ignignokt]

This makes me curious. Does UG actually check their articles before publishing them, or are they so desperate that they will publish anything(i.e. this article)?

[Shamanic Rhythm]

How ironic. Hinder, whose singer sounds like a crappy grunge wanabee with his throaty vocals, are paying out grunge.

[mitch311]

This band is a pathetic corporate pop band. When are we going to have some real new rock on the radio rather then this whiny bs for young girls

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Also, this guy's nickname is beyond hilarious.

Joe: "I need an awesome nickname to be a guitar god! Something that'll make me sound like Slash, 'cause he's my hero! Something like... "Ripper" or "Shredder!" Yeah!"

Man at the trademark place: "I'm sorry sir, but "Ripper" and "Shredder" are already taken by a pair of 14 year olds from Japan. I'm afraid all we have left is "Blower"."

[GoToSleep]

An unbelievable statement from "Blower"...Hinder sucks, Grunge rules. Fuck YOU, you can have your millions, suckers of Satan's cock.

[BonezShaker]

Ignignokt wrote:

This makes me curious. Does UG actually check their articles before publishing them, or are they so desperate that they will publish anything(i.e. this article)?

nah, I think UG got pissed to reading this article, so they post it on the website so dat it get bash and flamed by us

[scarfacesuit]

I don't really dig these guys too much, but in response to half of the comments on here, I just have to say that grunge blows.

I'm not even sorry. The grunge movement may have had a great impact in the music industry and all, but the music itself was pretty shitty, especially Nirvana. Kurt Cobain's lyrics (for the most part) were intelligible babble or didn't make sense, and the music completely left something to be desired.

[PuckII]

You know, I'm a pretty easy going listener when it comes to music, considering I'm a picky musician who beats himself up, but after reading all these posts and laughing my ass off, I had to finally register with the site and join in. Of all the groups I dislike today, Hinder ranks up there in the highest echelon.

I can understand not being a gear-head, but how can you not know your amps and sound setup? That is what defines you as a musician, not just playing a few riffs and tell your producer to throw some cool sound in and apply it. Also considering that they "may or may not have used an amp used by Zep" you'd think they would know exactly what it is they used. Reading interviews with Jimmy Page, Slash, Metallica, etc. they can recall what they used on their albums and what songs.

These guys have to be completely in their own little universe if they consider themselves rock revivals. They got nothing on Grunge, I'll admit it, and I didn't really care for the genre, but I will give it the honor it deserves. Cobain was like a new age Bob Dylan almost, and the imprint he and Nirvana along with the other Grunge acts will last longer then Hinder's little blip on the radar. Backstreet Boys only lasted so long, same with Spears, soon the legions of girls will blow their hometown guitarists.

[Smithsc]

"The rock world is coming back to life" I hardly think so, Hinder isnt that bad but bands like them still ruin what was good about rock n roll: talent.

[MuffinMan]

"It’s probably because we were blessed to sell albums. It is kind of sad for the people that don’t sell all those albums. Bands just come and go all the time these days."

Bands like Hinder! Rofl. Worthless ****s.

[rocker20]

omg i hate hinder go kill a kitten or something. ahhhhh, what do u mean rock died. its always been here, slipknot, saliva redemed themselfs with the new album..... okey yea rock world is come back.... totel lie

[rocker20]

Smithsc wrote:

"The rock world is coming back to life" I hardly think so, Hinder isnt that bad but bands like them still ruin what was good about rock n roll: talent.

did u read the article before posting this? read about it the guy dosnt know what the hell hes using, what the hell hes playing nore dose he have any outher lovers then the almighty slash.....

[adslam3]

99.99999% of these comments are so true. hinder is what's bad about music, on various levels (song writing, skill level, originality..etc). i'm an optimist though and i bet something good will happen in the music world and the general public will notice it. and then awful bands (like hinder) will stop popping up left and right. keep your fingers crossed

[bigtimmy]

how can a band that has two guitarists, where one claims to have 'I think I have like over 20 guitars now'... not know shit about what he's using?? how long have you been playing? old school this and old school that.

what a twat. half the people on this site write better shit than they do and they know gear/tone they like.

"I DONT KNOW LOLOLOL I WAS DRINKING.... OLD SChOOL"

[Laid2Rest6661]

There are some truly ignorant ****s on this website. All of you are trashing on Hinder and saying they have no talent, but have any of you ever even ****ing bothered to listen to one of the songs, other than the ones that are on the Radio? I'll agree Lips of an Angel is ****ing gay, but some of the other songs on this album are quite good. Some of the songs have really good guitar work, and makes it quite apparently that they DO know how to play their instruments. Now before you all start ripping on me and saying the I have the musical taste of a teenage girl, like I know will happen, hear me out. My favorite bands are AC/DC, (old) Metallica, Killswitch Enagage, Lamb of God, Seether, and Children of Bodom, among others. I'm an open minded person who can enjoy more than one type of music, and that includes what Hinder writes. Now good day.

[Deftones_84]

Laid2Rest6661 wrote:

There are some truly ignorant ****s on this website. All of you are trashing on Hinder and saying they have no talent, but have any of you ever even ****ing bothered to listen to one of the songs, other than the ones that are on the Radio? I'll agree Lips of an Angel is ****ing gay, but some of the other songs on this album are quite good. Some of the songs have really good guitar work, and makes it quite apparently that they DO know how to play their instruments. Now before you all start ripping on me and saying the I have the musical taste of a teenage girl, like I know will happen, hear me out. My favorite bands are AC/DC, (old) Metallica, Killswitch Enagage, Lamb of God, Seether, and Children of Bodom, among others. I'm an open minded person who can enjoy more than one type of music, and that includes what Hinder writes. Now good day.

You must be a 13 year old girl with ADD if you like this band. Hahahhahaha!

[reaper_x]

*Adds to bashing*

Haha, no really.

If you don't like them, don't comment, simple as that.

I might like them, personally, as they seem cocky.
But they produce some catchy tunes.

That's good enough for me.

[reaper_x]

ABOVE POST:

**I MIGHT NOT LIKE THEM, PERSONALLY.

Sorry for error :l

[alex831]

I expect if I was a clapped out dipshit virgin who lived with my head halfway up my own arse then I would jump on the hate Hinder bandwagon as well.

As it turns out, Hinder are a good band. How do I know this? Well it's not because I like them, which I do, it's because they have sold lots of CDs. And I know, sales doesn't mean they are technically good, or that they have a huge underground following, it just means that they have managed to sell lots.

As a measure of musical success, that's not bad. I mean, I'm sure Hinder really bemoan that fact that they're being trashed by a load of losers on the UG website, but maybe the fact that lots of people still seem to buy their music helps, if only a little.

[slashsnakepit15]

*sigh*....tried to gain some respect for them....found none....just look at the new cd "art"....bunch of tools

[Deftones_84]

Haha. I like how the mood of this topic turned now to people defending the band and telling others not to bash. It must give some of you satisfaction to go against the grain in an attempt to stand out as a smarter person than someone else. It's common behavior for people on the internet to try and establish individuality, nothing original. If you think this band has talent then I should expect this out of you anyways.

[MilesPrower]

Hair Metal wasn't music, it was a fashion statement

[WarpcoreTV]

Hinder blows... Check out this site. The cast video will prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/WarpcoreTV

[Restlesscow]

I had heard their music, didn't like it at all. Reading this i can safely say I don't like them.
Crap band, crap music.
Right. Im off to listen to Pink Floyd now

[piratefdu]

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

[wickbone73]

hahaha, coming from a guy who's bands biggest single was 'lips of an angel', this guy has no cred whatsovever. these guyts are worse than a watered down nickelback

[BonezShaker]

bashh them on thier Myspace !!! GOO !!

[DEATHPANDA]

Alice in Chains were better than Hinder will ever be. Anyone who is a true music fan know this is a fact and will continue to bash Hinder and their worthless efforts.

[Axl_Explosion]

piratefdu wrote:

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

I disagree, fully. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. I always saw music as an escape, a care-free fun time where the "rules" didn't apply. I personally hated the grunge and alternative scene because it just seemed so depressing and hopeless, and I personally see Grunge as the door that Emo walked through. People like Kurt Cobain coming on stage and saying stupid stuff like "Hi, we're corporate sellouts!" was just boring. And then he killed himself and everyone feels sorry for him, I personally think he was an idiot. He had no reason on this earth to be upset about. He had money, he had millions and millions of fans, he never had to worry about anything, but that wasn't good enough. He had this dillusion of being some "tortued soul" instead of just enjoying himself, having a good time, and being thankful for the money and success he had. That's what music lost! You look at 80's bands, these guys were just regular guys doing what they liked, having fun, and playing good music.
I think Hinder is a modern-day version of that, and I think that pisses people off. Everyone is so used to seeing these guys who are 100% business all the time and can, ya know, tell the entire timeline of their guitar sponsors company and can tell you what all they use and they all just take themselves so seriously. It has to be all about the music all the time! THAT, to me, is not what music is about. Music is about having a good time, going out there and having fun, which is what these guys openly admit to doing! I'll admit whole-heartedly that I don't like a lot of their songs, it's not my personal taste, but I don't consider them a bad band. I don't consider them to be the end all be all sign that music is dead now like everyone else on here does. I think these are just a couple guys who are going out there and doing what they like and having fun and, as evidenced in the article, they're not worried about being some musical historian or some technical know-all, they're just out there having fun and playing music. Flame me if you want to, but I think it's unfair for people to give these guys so much flak for not knowing all the ins and outs of their guitar and why they play this and why they use that and blah blah blah when they openly admit that they're not about that.

[Grungy2425]

Axl_Explosion wrote:

piratefdu wrote:

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

I disagree, fully. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. I always saw music as an escape, a care-free fun time where the "rules" didn't apply. I personally hated the grunge and alternative scene because it just seemed so depressing and hopeless, and I personally see Grunge as the door that Emo walked through. People like Kurt Cobain coming on stage and saying stupid stuff like "Hi, we're corporate sellouts!" was just boring. And then he killed himself and everyone feels sorry for him, I personally think he was an idiot. He had no reason on this earth to be upset about. He had money, he had millions and millions of fans, he never had to worry about anything, but that wasn't good enough. He had this dillusion of being some "tortued soul" instead of just enjoying himself, having a good time, and being thankful for the money and success he had. That's what music lost! You look at 80's bands, these guys were just regular guys doing what they liked, having fun, and playing good music.
I think Hinder is a modern-day version of that, and I think that pisses people off. Everyone is so used to seeing these guys who are 100% business all the time and can, ya know, tell the entire timeline of their guitar sponsors company and can tell you what all they use and they all just take themselves so seriously. It has to be all about the music all the time! THAT, to me, is not what music is about. Music is about having a good time, going out there and having fun, which is what these guys openly admit to doing! I'll admit whole-heartedly that I don't like a lot of their songs, it's not my personal taste, but I don't consider them a bad band. I don't consider them to be the end all be all sign that music is dead now like everyone else on here does. I think these are just a couple guys who are going out there and doing what they like and having fun and, as evidenced in the article, they're not worried about being some musical historian or some technical know-all, they're just out there having fun and playing music. Flame me if you want to, but I think it's unfair for people to give these guys so much flak for not knowing all the ins and outs of their guitar and why they play this and why they use that and blah blah blah when they openly admit that they're not about that.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA yea brah your sooooo right! Kurt never had to worry about anything like living in a car,or divorced parents,dropping out of HS and becoming a janitor! Yea bro hes was straight outta Laguna Beach whats he gotta worry about... Omg i realized your username is AXL explosion..Why am i even wasting my time with fools like you...hahaha.

[Axl_Explosion]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA yea brah your sooooo right! Kurt never had to worry about anything like living in a car,or divorced parents,dropping out of HS and becoming a janitor! Yea bro hes was straight outta Laguna Beach whats he gotta worry about... Omg i realized your username is AXL explosion..Why am i even wasting my time with fools like you...hahaha.

Oh wow, you're cool. Way to read my post. That was all in his past. and my parents are divorced too, like more than likely a lot of people's parents on here are (not insulting, it's just with the divorce rate being 50% you've got about a 1 in 2 chance of having divorced parents) and having crap jobs and everything like that. That's all part of life. So what if he had to work as a janitor? So what if his parents got divorced. What makes him different than anyone else? As Christopher Titus said "climb down off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT.
Kurt Cobain was living a life that most struggling artists could only dream of, and for all the influence he had over so many people and all the power he had, his greatest lesson he taught us was that when you get down in the dumps, don't try to make things better. It doesn't matter if you've got more money than most people will ever have in the next 3 generations of their family combined. It doesn't matter if your changing the history of music. No, if you get sad, just blow your brains out. Give up. If I went down the road Kurt Cobain did, I would have practically commited genocide against myself by now.

[Barack Obama]

Who does this guy think he is?!?!?!?!? Hinder is a pop band! And how do you not know the specifics of your gear?!?! What the hell!!!

[Vin2254]

Shredslayer wrote:

oh please guys, hair metal was far better than that grunge shit, i thought as guitarists you guys would understand that. Any beginner guitarist could make a song as good as anything nirvana made.

However, Hinder can't preach. I suggest they start making some real kick ass songs before they go on about how great their music is.

thats not the point *******. how many of those beginner guitarists can write an album full of material? its about song writing. any idiot can sit in his room for hours and learn how to shred. it takes a special talent to write great memorable songs.

[Vin2254]

Axl_Explosion wrote:

piratefdu wrote:

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

I disagree, fully. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. I always saw music as an escape, a care-free fun time where the "rules" didn't apply. I personally hated the grunge and alternative scene because it just seemed so depressing and hopeless, and I personally see Grunge as the door that Emo walked through. People like Kurt Cobain coming on stage and saying stupid stuff like "Hi, we're corporate sellouts!" was just boring. And then he killed himself and everyone feels sorry for him, I personally think he was an idiot. He had no reason on this earth to be upset about. He had money, he had millions and millions of fans, he never had to worry about anything, but that wasn't good enough. He had this dillusion of being some "tortued soul" instead of just enjoying himself, having a good time, and being thankful for the money and success he had. That's what music lost! You look at 80's bands, these guys were just regular guys doing what they liked, having fun, and playing good music.
I think Hinder is a modern-day version of that, and I think that pisses people off. Everyone is so used to seeing these guys who are 100% business all the time and can, ya know, tell the entire timeline of their guitar sponsors company and can tell you what all they use and they all just take themselves so seriously. It has to be all about the music all the time! THAT, to me, is not what music is about. Music is about having a good time, going out there and having fun, which is what these guys openly admit to doing! I'll admit whole-heartedly that I don't like a lot of their songs, it's not my personal taste, but I don't consider them a bad band. I don't consider them to be the end all be all sign that music is dead now like everyone else on here does. I think these are just a couple guys who are going out there and doing what they like and having fun and, as evidenced in the article, they're not worried about being some musical historian or some technical know-all, they're just out there having fun and playing music. Flame me if you want to, but I think it's unfair for people to give these guys so much flak for not knowing all the ins and outs of their guitar and why they play this and why they use that and blah blah blah when they openly admit that they're not about that.

kurt, (im pretty sure) had some kind of disorder that made him pretty messed up in the head. i contribute that to why he killed himself. you can't really judge him for that. was he a good singer? no. good guitar player? hell no. great lyricist? you could say that. but what made him good was his passion and dedication to what he was doing. i don't agree with what he was doing at all. but i respect the passion he put into it.

[piratefdu]

Axl_Explosion wrote:

piratefdu wrote:

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

I disagree, fully. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. I always saw music as an escape, a care-free fun time where the "rules" didn't apply. I personally hated the grunge and alternative scene because it just seemed so depressing and hopeless, and I personally see Grunge as the door that Emo walked through. People like Kurt Cobain coming on stage and saying stupid stuff like "Hi, we're corporate sellouts!" was just boring. And then he killed himself and everyone feels sorry for him, I personally think he was an idiot. He had no reason on this earth to be upset about. He had money, he had millions and millions of fans, he never had to worry about anything, but that wasn't good enough. He had this dillusion of being some "tortued soul" instead of just enjoying himself, having a good time, and being thankful for the money and success he had. That's what music lost! You look at 80's bands, these guys were just regular guys doing what they liked, having fun, and playing good music.
I think Hinder is a modern-day version of that, and I think that pisses people off. Everyone is so used to seeing these guys who are 100% business all the time and can, ya know, tell the entire timeline of their guitar sponsors company and can tell you what all they use and they all just take themselves so seriously. It has to be all about the music all the time! THAT, to me, is not what music is about. Music is about having a good time, going out there and having fun, which is what these guys openly admit to doing! I'll admit whole-heartedly that I don't like a lot of their songs, it's not my personal taste, but I don't consider them a bad band. I don't consider them to be the end all be all sign that music is dead now like everyone else on here does. I think these are just a couple guys who are going out there and doing what they like and having fun and, as evidenced in the article, they're not worried about being some musical historian or some technical know-all, they're just out there having fun and playing music. Flame me if you want to, but I think it's unfair for people to give these guys so much flak for not knowing all the ins and outs of their guitar and why they play this and why they use that and blah blah blah when they openly admit that they're not about that.

Well, I wasn't defending grunge with that statement, I really don't even like grunge. Nor am I jealous of this guys supposed 'success' in life. Nor do I even care enough about this band to even have a specific opinion of their music. How can you say those bands in the 80s who lived decadent lifestyles were thankful of the money they had? Doing what they did is the opposite of thankful, they blew it all on empty pursuits and the fast life, probably hurting a TON of people along the way. This is exactly why I don't like that. And you know what, it shows up in that type of music. It's just empty, passionless music.

[punk_mike_88]

It really says something about someone when their nickname is Blower...

[David_Bowie=GOD]

90s had way better singers than the 80s, and dont say kurt cobain couldn't sing, whether you think he could or not isn't the point, he didn't sing for the only band of the 90s.

layne staley>axl rose

i will say that anyday, and i know they are of different genres, but they are both singers of bands i like from each time, layne just had a much better voice.

lets also not forget chris cornell, eddie vedder, hell even billy corgan sang better than a lot of singers from the 80s.

Vin2254 wrote:

Shredslayer wrote:

oh please guys, hair metal was far better than that grunge shit, i thought as guitarists you guys would understand that. Any beginner guitarist could make a song as good as anything nirvana made.

However, Hinder can't preach. I suggest they start making some real kick ass songs before they go on about how great their music is.

thats not the point *****. how many of those beginner guitarists can write an album full of material? its about song writing. any idiot can sit in his room for hours and learn how to shred. it takes a special talent to write great memorable songs.

THANK YOU! and to the guy who originally said that, wheres your song? If any guitarist can write better songs than nirvana, i wanna hear yours, let us be the judge. Oh you dont have one? Then shut up, even if you do, i really doubt that it even sounds as good as something that this crappy band (hinder of course) wrote.

[Ignignokt]

Axl_Explosion wrote:

piratefdu wrote:

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

I disagree, fully. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. I always saw music as an escape, a care-free fun time where the "rules" didn't apply. I personally hated the grunge and alternative scene because it just seemed so depressing and hopeless, and I personally see Grunge as the door that Emo walked through. People like Kurt Cobain coming on stage and saying stupid stuff like "Hi, we're corporate sellouts!" was just boring. And then he killed himself and everyone feels sorry for him, I personally think he was an idiot. He had no reason on this earth to be upset about. He had money, he had millions and millions of fans, he never had to worry about anything, but that wasn't good enough. He had this dillusion of being some "tortued soul" instead of just enjoying himself, having a good time, and being thankful for the money and success he had. That's what music lost! You look at 80's bands, these guys were just regular guys doing what they liked, having fun, and playing good music.
I think Hinder is a modern-day version of that, and I think that pisses people off. Everyone is so used to seeing these guys who are 100% business all the time and can, ya know, tell the entire timeline of their guitar sponsors company and can tell you what all they use and they all just take themselves so seriously. It has to be all about the music all the time! THAT, to me, is not what music is about. Music is about having a good time, going out there and having fun, which is what these guys openly admit to doing! I'll admit whole-heartedly that I don't like a lot of their songs, it's not my personal taste, but I don't consider them a bad band. I don't consider them to be the end all be all sign that music is dead now like everyone else on here does. I think these are just a couple guys who are going out there and doing what they like and having fun and, as evidenced in the article, they're not worried about being some musical historian or some technical know-all, they're just out there having fun and playing music. Flame me if you want to, but I think it's unfair for people to give these guys so much flak for not knowing all the ins and outs of their guitar and why they play this and why they use that and blah blah blah when they openly admit that they're not about that.

I hope this wall of text isn't repeated again, but it must be replied to. It's not that they didn't know the ins and outs of their gear. It's the fact that they knew basically nothing about their gear. So, stop trying to defend ignorance. This is a website for guitarists, and if an article is going to be published on the main page then it should be about someone who has good knowledge of guitars.
Also, condoning the image of sex, drugs, and rock and roll is ridiculous. Bands that get into that kind of stuff tend to fail, put greater hardships on life, and their music doesn't sound that great to me. Just because someone places focus on the actual music doesn't mean they are 100% business.
I don't really have a strong opinion on Hinder either way, because I haven't listened to much of them. But, the fact that they sell lots of albums does not mean the music is good, just marketable such as some hip hop and pop.
It seems to me like the only reason some people are defending this band is to try and gain an air of greater mature, by going against some of the immature remarks of the band.

[AmpleSteak]

This is retarded... The bassist is sponserd by the best bass company on the market and they treat him like a god giving him free basses that are over 5 grand in stores and they get him custom ones, he can't play for shit...

The rythm guitarist is a fail because hes just like IM HAPPY PLAYING TEH POWERRR CHORDSSs what a loser, hes only in it for the sex. Whatever i would do the same thing if i was him but i would actually learn my craft that im making a living off of...

[Powerchild]

I think you guys are dumb.... this is the greatest band of our era, and you are all wrong. they are soo talented, and... damn. I can't continue to say that with a straight face. This is the worst band I've ever heard in my entire life. you know when you have double track your lead singer's voice on your single that you will be short lived. I think 15 minutes of fame is honestly way too much for this band. they should have been given a hundredth of a second. I hope some more creative geniuses come out of their shells in the years to come. If they don't, then, I will still make music, but I will go deaf on purpose. After all, I think beethoven is one of the few musicians that got it right.

[WhereArtEsteban]

SLASH.94 wrote:

So if i came out with a band that had a 70's blues-rock vibe to it you'd all hate it because it isnt new. (BTW this is a question to the people in the comments bashing these guys because they are attempting to bring back the 80's)

I think the thing is nobody liked hair metal in the first place. Why bring back a style that died over night practically???

I loved reading this so many lulz.

[joemichaelson89]

aerogun123 wrote:

all u guys thrashing this band are *****s u guys are just pissed cause your pussies and jealous that your bull**** grunge bands aren't as good as these guys this band is no guns n roses but they're better than that sh*t called rap

Axl_Explosion :
piratefdu wrote:

That was one of my favorite things to do whenever we’re playing live – seeing the smiles on people’s faces. Getting drunk, getting laid, just overall having a great time, and leaving with a smile on your face. I think it kind of got lost through the 90’s.

This just represents everything that's wrong with music to me, sorry. I don't care if this band sold 1 billion records, that's just an idiotic statement. Why don't you take a time machine back to 80's, cause it's not coming back!

I disagree, fully. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. I always saw music as an escape, a care-free fun time where the "rules" didn't apply. I personally hated the grunge and alternative scene because it just seemed so depressing and hopeless, and I personally see Grunge as the door that Emo walked through. People like Kurt Cobain coming on stage and saying stupid stuff like "Hi, we're corporate sellouts!" was just boring. And then he killed himself and everyone feels sorry for him, I personally think he was an idiot. He had no reason on this earth to be upset about. He had money, he had millions and millions of fans, he never had to worry about anything, but that wasn't good enough. He had this dillusion of being some "tortued soul" instead of just enjoying himself, having a good time, and being thankful for the money and success he had. That's what music lost! You look at 80's bands, these guys were just regular guys doing what they liked, having fun, and playing good music.
I think Hinder is a modern-day version of that, and I think that pisses people off. Everyone is so used to seeing these guys who are 100% business all the time and can, ya know, tell the entire timeline of their guitar sponsors company and can tell you what all they use and they all just take themselves so seriously. It has to be all about the music all the time! THAT, to me, is not what music is about. Music is about having a good time, going out there and having fun, which is what these guys openly admit to doing! I'll admit whole-heartedly that I don't like a lot of their songs, it's not my personal taste, but I don't consider them a bad band. I don't consider them to be the end all be all sign that music is dead now like everyone else on here does. I think these are just a couple guys who are going out there and doing what they like and having fun and, as evidenced in the article, they're not worried about being some musical historian or some technical know-all, they're just out there having fun and playing music. Flame me if you want to, but I think it's unfair for people to give these guys so much flak for not knowing all the ins and outs of their guitar and why they play this and why they use that and blah blah blah when they openly admit that they're not about that.

this must be the band members themselves.

fail.

epicly.

[joemichaelson89]

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[Sloofus]

My friend brought up this interesting point:
The last band to say that rock was coming back was the darkness...

[The Legend 1000]

Listen To me when i state this, this 'hinder' is so far away form the real 80's rock and the REAL ROCK, its untrue, its not bringing a new 'edge' to it its just as bad as most of this 'alternative' shi* we hear today is, and just because they state that theyre like the eighties bands, does not Mean They are in the sligthest. These guys' music is completely different, do you hear a blazing riff powered out by a damn sweet tone on a marshall stack? NO, do hear a lame attempt at said thing, yeah. Do you hear real spiritual feeling and soul in the playing? NO, do you hear stupid lyrics, meaningless music and absolute 'Bum-BO' yeah. Now when people accept that Real Music hasn't made its entrance completely back on the scene i think things'll start to look up because i tell you now, these guys are not the revival of real ROCK, they are another force trying to hold it back. When REAL ROCK comes back, we will all know and trust me, it'll be a proud day for the real ROCKERS out there, a proud day.

[JoshyJordison]

thats some nasty facial hair lol

[The Legend 1000]

I seriously do not mind if people like them, id just like them to stop associating them with real muscians.

[The Legend 1000]

lol yeah mate, nasty facial hair, got nothing on Hendrix's Stash :M:

[joester567]

im glad rocks coming back, as long as there no hair metal, i want a new ride the lightning or ten. and this could be i very the near future with metallica shifting the style back, and gnr finally putting out chinese democrasy

[b-rock34]

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten up! You're getting way too worked up over a group you're not even a fan of! Calm down... relax... take your meds... everything will be fine in your world despite the existence of Hinder.

Besides, you've got lots of scales to practice on your way to becoming the perfect guitar player that we all know you'll be.

[b-rock34]

WhereArtEsteban wrote:

I think the thing is nobody liked hair metal in the first place. Why bring back a style that died over night practically???

I loved reading this so many lulz.

You are very, very wrong on one point. Hair metal was extremely popular in it's day. WAY, WAY more popular than any of todays rock (including Hinder).

In the 80's, these bands were selling out multiple nights in the biggest venues in all of your towns. And their records were regularily selling between 5 and 12 million copies (within a couple of years of release). It was absolutely decadent... these guys could get away with almost anything. They were treated like kings and worshipped like idols.

This is no exagerration. They really were that popular. That's why it went away so quickly... because it became so incredibly popular that it became a formula; with the later bands of the genre merely marketing creations... nothing real about them. People saw thru it, so they stopped buying it and went on to something real.

Also, keep in mind that the hair band era wasn't a short era at all. It started in the late 70's and lasted until around 1990. It had a good 9-11 year run... grunge didn't last that long. In fact, not too much of any music trend has maintained popularity for such a long period of time.

Personally, I like the best of both eras (and music in general). But, I have to call out such a gross misstatement.

[ReefTECK]

HINDER BLOWS. What a bunch of fags!

[Deftones_84]

b-rock34 wrote:

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten up! You're getting way too worked up over a group you're not even a fan of! Calm down... relax... take your meds... everything will be fine in your world despite the existence of Hinder.

Besides, you've got lots of scales to practice on your way to becoming the perfect guitar player that we all know you'll be.

So you never criticize any bands? You criticize people that criticize bands. Sounds like you are the one with PMS. This is a free forum, so we're going to cut Hinder down all we want. Quit being a little girl.

[RageAgnstUrJaw]

Gotta say, I usually enjoy reading these types of interviews, even if it's a band I don't like, because then I get to see their perspective and I often walk away from the article thinking to myself, I still don't dig their music, but I can definitely see their point of view and why it speaks to them , and thus have a new found respect for the artist.

This interview though I didn't get that at all. This "Blower" character sounds like the typical frat boy prick who just needs a good ass kicking in front of a big crowd to set his ego a step back to where it belongs. Doesn't sound like he really gives a toss about the music either, but just loves to soak up the rock star status he has deemed himself with. Shame.

[Th3 Sh4d0w 13]

Wow, the interview said enough... HINDER "BLOWS"

[itsallafacade]

Music in general needs to stop being driven by corporations and marketers. Shame on bands like this for exploiting ignorant teenage girls. If I find a band that I don't like, I don't listen to them. I don't associate with them at all. However, Hinder, and a host of other bands (Tokio Hotel, for one), keep sticking their unwanted noses in my face on MTV and people singing their tunes at school, it's both sickening and disheartening at the same time. It's saddening to see such an inspirational, soulful, and emotional force that means a lot to a lot of people be reduced to these guys. Is this it, planet earth? All the rock you have to offer is this shit?

Rock n' Roll began way before the 80s, but I guess Hinder wouldn't know, as they don't listen to anything else. I find it hilarious, that there are so many different branches and communities in rock, yet there is a sense of camaraderie amongst the disputes when it comes to Hinder's talentless, generic, SELL-OUT music. So go on, Hinder, keep not caring about all of the negative criticism, because nobody cares about you. Enjoy your short lived legacy of teenybob girls and other people that frankly have no idea about music, because if they did, they wouldn't be listening to you.

Fuck it, I'm going to listen to some grunge and punk right now.

And to the people insulting rap - don't. It's unfair to judge an entire genre of music based on the mainstream, I thought the rock community would know that all too well. Rock isn't the only music that's died. Go listen to some old school rap, back when it was about the struggle.

There, my essay is done.

[pinkhaze29]

Axl_Explosion educate yourself before you make stupid remarks... I could rip everything you said apart but I don't have 3 hours to waste...

[itsallafacade]

And at times like these I get pissed at At the Drive-In for breaking up because they were getting too popular. They could have kept honest rock in the mainstream.

[tom1thomas1]

lol its funny that they think they're making the 'rock world come back to life.' They're just another one of these new crappy bands that thinks they're so cool and this is just theyre little fantasy. theyd go weak at the knees next to slash or mick mars, do they know anything before the 80s? lol tryhards. the blower needs to work on his ego. hinders crap

[daveensz]

Wow, I am so glad to see people are thinking like me. I saw Hinder in Omaha last year and it was one of the worst sets I've heard. Unfortunately, they are opening for Motley Crue in February (which I'm also attending), so I'll have to get an extra thick set of earplugs for that. Nothing against them personally, but they relate to the old 80s hairbands as their inspiration, but they are no where close to the likes of Def Leppard, the Crue,or even any of the "White" bands. I would rather listen to fingernails on a chalkboard than Lips of an Angel.

[b-rock34]

Deftones_84 wrote:

b-rock34 wrote:

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten up! You're getting way too worked up over a group you're not even a fan of! Calm down... relax... take your meds... everything will be fine in your world despite the existence of Hinder.

Besides, you've got lots of scales to practice on your way to becoming the perfect guitar player that we all know you'll be.

So you never criticize any bands? You criticize people that criticize bands. Sounds like you are the one with PMS. This is a free forum, so we're going to cut Hinder down all we want. Quit being a little girl.

I'd like to see you call me a little girl to my face.

[b-rock34]

I'm not a critic. I'm a ****ing musician!

[superunknown4]

TunerAddict wrote:

I hope their tour bus drives off a cliff.

I always get sad when I see tour bus and Cliff in the same sentence =[

I disagree. That's to merciful. We have to torture them like they tortured us with them playing Lips of an Angel over and over and over on the radio stations.

[Deftones_84]

b-rock34 wrote:

Deftones_84 wrote:

b-rock34 wrote:

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten up! You're getting way too worked up over a group you're not even a fan of! Calm down... relax... take your meds... everything will be fine in your world despite the existence of Hinder.

Besides, you've got lots of scales to practice on your way to becoming the perfect guitar player that we all know you'll be.

So you never criticize any bands? You criticize people that criticize bands. Sounds like you are the one with PMS. This is a free forum, so we're going to cut Hinder down all we want. Quit being a little girl.

I'd like to see you call me a little girl to my face.

Go cry about it and listen to your Hinder CD's you dumb dink.

[b-rock34]

Seriously dude, you're such a tough guy behind your briliant words. I give anything to be in the same room as you right now!

[Deftones_84]

b-rock34 wrote:

Seriously dude, you're such a tough guy behind your briliant words. I give anything to be in the same room as you right now!

Yeah same room ehh? You, me and my revolver I'd blow your ****ing head off.

[b-rock34]

exactly where do you live?

[astrotrain77]

don't these guys sound more grunge than hair metal?

[Deftones_84]

b-rock34 wrote:

exactly where do you live?

I think it's funny that you have all these fantasies. Do you know where California is, or do you need somebody to point it out for you.

[b-rock34]

I would gladly meet you in person to discuss this whole matter. In fact, I'd love to give you and your revolver a chance. No fantasy...reality

[psychoskin473]

Hinder is a ****ing disgrace to rock and roll. But they are bonafide hair metal and will be playing state fairs in no time. It seems these *******s havnt grown out of acdc since highschool. How dare that mother****er bash grunge it gave true musicians the spotlight for a change for however brief it was. Now you have to be a complete douche (Hinder) or shred like paul gilbert. Its nearly impossible to break in today with all the extreme talent and the over saturation with these mainstream knockoff 80'sbands

[Deftones_84]

b-rock34 wrote:

I would gladly meet you in person to discuss this whole matter. In fact, I'd love to give you and your revolver a chance. No fantasy...reality

I don't meet with sex offenders.

[b-rock34]

Wow, you're a smart one. What you do with that brain of yours. The possibilities are endless.

[joemichaelson89]

Deftones_84 wrote:

b-rock34 wrote:

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten up! You're getting way too worked up over a group you're not even a fan of! Calm down... relax... take your meds... everything will be fine in your world despite the existence of Hinder.

Besides, you've got lots of scales to practice on your way to becoming the perfect guitar player that we all know you'll be.

So you never criticize any bands? You criticize people that criticize bands. Sounds like you are the one with PMS. This is a free forum, so we're going to cut Hinder down all we want. Quit being a little girl.

[joemichaelson89]

Deftones_84 wrote:

b-rock34 wrote:

I would gladly meet you in person to discuss this whole matter. In fact, I'd love to give you and your revolver a chance. No fantasy...reality

I don't meet with sex offenders.

hahahahahaha rofl!

wow i lol'd all day long holy shit

[spoolunking]

I would give up my life to put all 215 ilbs of my weight behind my right fist to knock "BLOWERS"'S jaw off of his face. You my friend are a ***** tool to the max.

[Spartan070sarge]

It is a disgrace to even have these guys on this site.

The singer can't even really sing. Look up a live performance of them. And "Blower" is a tool

They have no right to talk about rock.

[psychoskin473]

people at UG.com stop interview horrible musicians!!!

[joemichaelson89]

i am in total agreement with Deftones_84

ill moderate.

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yeah . Deftones = win . b-rock34 = fail .

first off the deftones are ****ing amazing, and b-rock is getting too worked up and doing death threats. its a forum calm ur shit down.

sorry that all the 90's alt bands werent cover bands that came straight from a bar. i love blazing guitar solos more than anybody i know. but alot of the 80's hair bands were corporate sellouts. notice how we celebrate Iron Maiden and Yngwie Malmsteen music more often than Skidrow, Ratt, and Twisted Sister. Iron Maiden and Ynqwie Malmsteen were MUUUCH more original. hence y they are both still considered Guitar Gods today. The corporate sellouts from the 80's were the reason hair metal died, the market became saturated with over used riffs, big solos, and blues covers (which all sucked in my opinion).

the reason Metal still lives is becuz of these bands ie. Iron Maiden, Death, At the Gates, Yngwie, etc. They were the pioneers of metal "outside of the box"

the reason the population even started to look at Grunge in a serious manner was becuz it was sooooo not-typical. I mean a 4 chord song ie. "smells like teen spirit" was the anthem of the 90's. Kurt Cobain, not even being an AMAZING guitar player made HUUUGE waves becuz of his originality. He didnt stick with what was brought forth. he developed somthing new. more raw. and was the platform for a new era of groundbreaking music. he still played a marshall stack and a ****in strat. he just used it in a way that all of the other sellouts were too afriad to do.

Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins could kill other 80's players with his soloing abilities and originality. i mean most of his songs are built with mannny chords and phrases that, to that point, were not even heard of. the reason 90's alternative got sooo big was becuz of the hair bands failures.

and once again Billy plays with a Marshall Stack and a Strat.

done. period.

hair bands shot themselves in the foot and made one of the greatest eras of music. sorry to tell ya.

if people were not sooo ignorant towards newer forms of music i guess people wouldnt be wanting to shoot other people lol

no offense to ay 80's fans but it did suck..... horribly. notice how all of the original 80's bands are still playing today. ie Megadeth, Ozzy, Judas Priest, etc. even tho Ozzy had some sellout songs the fact that he could still sellout shows in the 90's is amazing! its his original guitar players that made his music worthwhile. even tho Randy Rhoads would be muccch better than Zakk if he was still alive.

and the 90's had some intense solos. some of the best EVER heard. ie settle for nothing - Rage against the machine, Geek USA - smahsing pumpkins, Black Hole Sun - soundgarden.

thanks

[kaizerkhan13]

amazing. even with all the hate and douchebaggery the Pit has to offer, we could all come together and hate Hinder with depreaved ferocity.

Thank you, mighty Blower. For giving us the gift of unity while hating you to the utmost.

[Powerchild]

man... that little back in forth was ****ing awesome. I wish Ultimate-guitar didn't have to mediate the forums- I think that takes the rock and roll out of it. for the record, I think I would definitely have to agree with b-rock's points. Sounds like a cool dude. I mean, I'd rather hang out with a "possible" sex offender (I know you're not dude) than with some guy who really wants to shoot someone over a couple of comments that he completely misinterpreted.

[Forkman]

Wow, I was gonna come in here and rip on Hinder, but I think I'm a little late. I especially lolled at this "Blower" faggot talking about people coming out of concerts depressed in the grunge scene. If people are happy coming out of a Hinder concert, it's because it's FINALLY OVER!

[Mase947]

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fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

[Suav Nitebeest]

Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

You're kidding, right? So you'd prefer over-produced shit, drums recorded in a wind tunnel, cold, calculating corporate generic "rock" to, um, good music?

[wicked_hobbit]

It's not an act? How ironic

[monstertaco]

yeah when he was pumped about his recoded sales its because red-neck/ modern-yawn fans are the only ones still buying into the country/recored lables and salse and havent found the peoples network called dthe internet!

[Ironpriest]

Suav Nitebeest :
Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

You're kidding, right? So you'd prefer over-produced shit, drums recorded in a wind tunnel, cold, calculating corporate generic "rock" to, um, good music?

Dr Feelgood, Shout at the devil, and saints of los angeles are better than any grunge albums i ever heard

[wicked_hobbit]

And damn, I wish I could write like UrbanSombrero

[Deftones_84]

Powerchild wrote:

man... that little back in forth was ****ing awesome. I wish Ultimate-guitar didn't have to mediate the forums- I think that takes the rock and roll out of it. for the record, I think I would definitely have to agree with b-rock's points. Sounds like a cool dude. I mean, I'd rather hang out with a "possible" sex offender (I know you're not dude) than with some guy who really wants to shoot someone over a couple of comments that he completely misinterpreted.

So you don't want UG to mediate the forums but the whole reason I got into that argument is because that b-rock guy told everybody to settle down and stop ripping on Hinder. He was, in a way, mediating the forum. I think you outta go back and read, and maybe your concept will correspond.

[bambi89]

im from the u.k. and these guys may be bad but they are better than the current wave of talentless indie bollocks (such as the pigeon detectives, scouting for girls and the wombats) who are currently raping the ears of Britain. watch out you guys in the US, when this crap comes over to you, you will all be reaching for your hinder cd's. if only i was joking

[The_String_Man]

Ironpriest wrote:

Suav Nitebeest :
Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

You're kidding, right? So you'd prefer over-produced shit, drums recorded in a wind tunnel, cold, calculating corporate generic "rock" to, um, good music?

Dr Feelgood, Shout at the devil, and saints of los angeles are better than any grunge albums i ever heard

what? saints of los angeles better than nevermind?

[AdenZerda]

Came for the Hinder bashing, was not disappointed. I love you guys.

[jimm, ey?]

AdenZerda :
Came for the Hinder bashing, was not disappointed. I love you guys.

We love you too! ^_^

Hinder are like nickelback, cept even worse (possible?)

[Guitar Z-neous]

ytse Jammer wrote:

Grunge was far more important than these guys will be. A very generic boring band.

dam right, these guys dont deserve to even have an opinion on grunge

[Bert_Hastings]

bands like hinder are not making the rock world come back to life. they are making the SHIT of the rock world come back to life

[kr2254]

haha if these idiots are bringing back 80's hair metal then where the hell are the guitar solos, and not to mention their singer sounds like a grunge singer. Its like their saying that grunge sucked but were basically a s#!tty grunge band

[David_Bowie=GOD]

Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

you could have at least mentioned good bands from the 80s....

[yankovicfan3125]

What do you say to the critics who don’t really get what you’re trying to do as musicians?

Joe: They can say what they say, but we really just don’t give a shit. Whatever they put in, that’s they’re ****ing opinion. We’re having a good ****ing time, and our fans are having a great ****ing time. If they want to try to continue to make this serious, I don’t think it’s going to last too much longer. The rock world is coming back to life, and they can just piss off in my opinion!

LOL idiot.
The rock world pretty much died the second you guys released an album. Your "fans"? Teenage girls wouldn't know music if it crawled up their asses.
Face it cockblower. A bunch of teenage girls doesn't count as a fanbase. Go ask a REAL MUSICIAN what they think of your band. If I hear Jimmy Page or Eric Clapton compliment you, I'll be amazed!!!! You tell everyone but your fans to piss off, but you don't have any real fans...

[geeve420]

I was coming in to bash a little myself but.....Well I think every way of bashing these ass ****s has been done, so I walk away and thank you for the many laughs. Oklahoma is very disapointed to say they are from here, Woody Guthrie is rolling in his grave.

[fitterhappier34]

Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

LAUGH, LAUGH, LAUGH.

[deathmagnetic]

I'd like to see this "blower" get raped by Gaahl from Gorgoroth.

[deathmagnetic]

I think the teenage girls that listen to Hinder are as much of the problem as the band itself. Get them listening to Satriani or Opeth!

[artcore]

Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

Ummm, you may not know, but Phish is a jam band, not a grunge band. Trey Anastasio of Phish could not only solo better than any of the guys of those bands, but he can compose a lot better too.

I suggest you give a good listen to the bands you think less of, Mase947. An excellent musician ought to have an expansive repertoire, and to obtain such you should listen and play a variety of genres.

[Rockstar_450]

"Blower" that's accurate...

I don't hate hinder but this guy is a muso with a bad attitude. Pretty dumb to think that more people currently watching the music scene would like 80's hair metal over grunge

[cnc4c34]

Hinder has no reason to make music, because they don't write music that has meaning. I don't know why he rips on grunge when Alice In Chains and Pearl Jam were both great bands. Soundgarden too.

[fitterhappier34]

artcore wrote:

Mase947 wrote:

\fitterhappier34 wrote:

I'm not a big fan of grunge, but I do enjoy bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden a trillion times more than any "hair band." Let alone some stupid 80's rock tribute band called Hinder. I can't believe anyone would hate on the 90's. The 90's also had Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish, and more. No 80's hair "metal" band can compare to all of that. So keep on blowing Hinder. Keep on contributing to the pollution of popular music these days.

Ratt, Poison, Motley, Cinderalla > Radiohead, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, R.E.M., Phish

Ummm, you may not know, but Phish is a jam band, not a grunge band. Trey Anastasio of Phish could not only solo better than any of the guys of those bands, but he can compose a lot better too.

I suggest you give a good listen to the bands you think less of, Mase947. An excellent musician ought to have an expansive repertoire, and to obtain such you should listen and play a variety of genres.

Thank you, good sir.

[urdad]

god these guys are idiots...

[Regression]

0h The Horror wrote:

I don’t really have to say much because there are at least 3 ½ million other people that dug it and bought the album

A lot more people than 3 mil bought Lil' Wayne's new album too. Does that make him good?

Generic argument, however replace Lil' Wayne with a grunge band and it would be a good one. Plenty of grunge bands outsold them, yet they aregue their music must be good if it has sold 3 1/2 million.

And I saw someone bash Nickelback; I understand why people dislike them, but they are alot better than they get credit for. The drummer and guitarist aren't to bad, not sure about the bassist or whatever.

[nmcollins05]

Empty music is back! Glam Metal was so innovative...The lyrics especially took a lot of effort and thought. The numerous, mostly irrelevant solos that we lost in the recent years have been greatly missed. Now average guitarists can show us again how much time they have practiced their scales, while having their shirts off. Out come the cave dwellers and pods to bang their heads. Most of which will counter this argument by claiming holding up "bullhorns" and simply claiming with their greatest intuition that Hinder and the like just ROCK so super hard!

[Ilikecakefarts!]

First of all nmcollins05 is a royal douche but he is right.

Secondly I love chocolate icing in my butthole! and then I love to fart it out! Yay!

go to cakefarts.com Yay!

[imrickjamesn00b]

SLASH.94 wrote:

So if i came out with a band that had a 70's blues-rock vibe to it you'd all hate it because it isnt new. (BTW this is a question to the people in the comments bashing these guys because they are attempting to bring back the 80's)

No we just hate hinder cuz glam metal sux

[clinbabvu2]

Fucking mall demons. These people are corporate cocksuckers. they must be aliens sent to make the rest of us REAL rock loving people understand that our music is truly better than this crap. yes my music is better than yours if this is the "music" you listen to. Grunge was crap? If he only meant nirvana than yes I agree.

[clinbabvu2]

o and one more thing Rock is coming back to life? really? if that's the case then why are you here to kill it again.

[INDIE4LIFE]

"gettin drunk gettin laid" ... anyone who wants to pursue a career in music for this purpose is a f'ing douchebag.

Also I'm pretty sure that Beck could do a guitar solo than this "Blow" character. I wish Thurston Moore and Josh Homme would team up and kick his ass. long live good music.

[artcore]

clinbabvu2 wrote:

o and one more thing Rock is coming back to life? really? if that's the case then why are you here to kill it again.

Haha, that's been said quite a few times in quite a few ways here, but you take the cake for wording it the best.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

wow, people still posting here.

id just like to say that glam metal sucked, glam rock of the 70s was awesome though, they are two completely different things, i hate it when people throw the two together, dont think ive seen that yet but i just thought id say that.

i dont think the 12 year old girls that listen to them know what they are trying to do, they just want to listen to this band they saw on mtv. if a band ever brings it back(which i hope doesn't happen)hinder definately wont be the ones doing it.

[guitarrob11]

this is hilarious, i don't think I've read one positive comment on this..lol not saying i like these guys cuz i think we all know they suck ass.

[DeathOn2Legs]

90s suck, 80s win, end of story alternative lovers!

[.:!j.man!:.]

They should post every single responce here into hinders mailbox.

[Grungy2425]

DeathOn2Legs wrote:

90s suck, 80s win, end of story alternative lovers!

hahahahhaha you still go to bed in spandex?

[UnsungPlayer42]

GLAM=GAY L.A. METAL

[joemichaelson89]

deathmagnetic wrote:

I think the teenage girls that listen to Hinder are as much of the problem as the band itself. Get them listening to Satriani or Opeth!

deathmagnetic wrote:

I think the teenage girls that listen to Hinder are as much of the problem as the band itself. Get them listening to Opeth!

win.

period.

[joemichaelson89]

UnsungPlayer42 wrote:

GLAM=GAY L.A. METAL

win.

[Year Zero]

These guys are like Nickelbacks younger brother, and that is not a good thing.

[chughes737]

Hinder sucks large donkey balls

[Force Reaver]

Slash should sue hinder for even mentioning his name. Its a sad day when shitty bands like this make it out into the mainstream while smaller bands that actually produce good music get left behind in the dust. Joe Blower should get his last two ribs removed so he can bend down and blow himself

[Thrash_fire666]

every song they sing is about the same thing "oh my girlfriend dumped my talentless ass" its so repetitive i hate it.

[geeve420]

Why is this interview still up? Is there no worth while interviews to post UG?

[CptRevell]

I saw an interview on VH1 waaaay back when they were the "Artists You Should Know" thing. They seemed much more down to earth then, saying things like "I just love playing guitar, love making rock songs, etc."

They just come off as tools here. And the main thing that offends me, is the lack of knowledge about their gear. Not knowing what year the gear/guitars are from, not knowing the gist of how to create good tone, it all seems very fake to me. I am nigh obsessed with gear, and tone, and music, and just recently this summer got up enough cash to get a vintage bass. It makes me sick guys like this can just make generic radio songs, and then just get given guitars. 20 vintage Les Pauls? To a guy who doesn't even really care about tone? This makes me frown.

[scott43]

Apparently we didn't have enough glam rock in the 80s. THANKS HINDER!

[scott43]

Apparently we didn't get enough glam rock in the 80s. Thanks Hinder and MTV!! You really make the radio an enjoyable thing to listen to.

[scott43]

I'll post as many times as I want... haha

[insurgentsteve]

Robbertto wrote:

What a terrible band.

"The rock world is coming back to life"

Probably the most false statement I've ever heard. If anything, the last DECENT mainstream rock died off in the early nineties. Get over yourself Hinder

Muse is the last ray of light..... i hope hinder all die of alcohol poisoning one night while they're high fiving the frat kids that listen to them.

[acoustielectric]

This band sucks, and I don't want "hair metal" back. Rock is not coming back and never will because hinder helped kill it!

[acoustielectric]

CptRevell wrote:

I saw an interview on VH1 waaaay back when they were the "Artists You Should Know" thing. They seemed much more down to earth then, saying things like "I just love playing guitar, love making rock songs, etc."

They just come off as tools here. And the main thing that offends me, is the lack of knowledge about their gear. Not knowing what year the gear/guitars are from, not knowing the gist of how to create good tone, it all seems very fake to me. I am nigh obsessed with gear, and tone, and music, and just recently this summer got up enough cash to get a vintage bass. It makes me sick guys like this can just make generic radio songs, and then just get given guitars. 20 vintage Les Pauls? To a guy who doesn't even really care about tone? This makes me frown.

I agree. They probably think the stuff looks cool.

[Dragon Master]

Deftones_84 wrote:

b-rock34 wrote:

Some of you guys need to seriously lighten up! You're getting way too worked up over a group you're not even a fan of! Calm down... relax... take your meds... everything will be fine in your world despite the existence of Hinder.

Besides, you've got lots of scales to practice on your way to becoming the perfect guitar player that we all know you'll be.

So you never criticize any bands? You criticize people that criticize bands. Sounds like you are the one with PMS. This is a free forum, so we're going to cut Hinder down all we want. Quit being a little girl.

Yeah, man. I mean, seriously, rock is back, but it's not coming from Hinder, that's for sure.

[impropagation66]

And I thought the Cryptopsy interview was bad... Hinder really did "take it to the limit" with this interview. Then again, they always do. You know you've made it big when you have the producer create your guitar tone, etc. :p

[Blower_Crue]

Laddiebuck wrote:

Lol this is amazing. There hasn't been one positive comment yet. Just shows what true music fans think of Hinder and the Blower.

btw, HINDER SUCKS

Hey his names not The Blower its Blower and does it really show? Because im pretty sure Hinder had a 3x platinum debut album and they didnt stop there so why waist your time bashing them,they dont care....and why read this if you hate them?

[Ron Mexico]

Hinder is talking shit about grunge? That's rich, especially seeing that Austin Winkler sounds like a drunken grizzly bear impersonating Eddie Vedder. Bands like Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc. were WAY more talented than Hinder could ever hope to be. And the statement that "people walked out of concerts more depressed than they walked in" is full of shit. If he's ever bothered to listen to Soundgarden, then he'd know how retarded that statement is.

[Blower_Crue]

Strato-Massacre wrote:

dude looks like a 13 year old in that picture.

Well that 13 year old girl is busy living the life of a rockstar and making a name out of himself. and yet your the one sittin around critisizing some rockstar for the way he looks. Some people need to just get a life and get laid...