Hinder: 'The Second Album Will Be The Girls Getting Over Hinder'

For the past two years, the road has been home to US rockers Hinder. With a multi-platinum selling album under their belts in the form of Extreme Behavior and hits singles in Better Than Me, Lips Of An Angel and Get Stoned, Hinder are now bona fide rock stars.

Hated by the critics (who really don’t get it) and loved by their fans and the music loving masses, Hinder are nothing but your perfect good time, rock and roll band. And the guys are also the coolest and nicest guys you could hope to find in this tough, ego stroking music business. It is a rare thing to find rock stars without egos.

The group is on their final legs of their current two year world trek and one which will soon rap up in the United States. On the band’s recent stop over in Australia, Joe Matera met up with two of the group’s members; Mark King (guitar) and Mike Rodden (bass) a day before their show in Melbourne. Read on as the boys open up about their wild times on the road, their success and their plans for the follow-up to Extreme Behavior.

Ultimate-Guitar: It has been estimated that the band has performed over 700 shows since September 2005. Would you say that is a fair estimate?

Mike: Yeah probably, it does sound right.

That is a lot of shows and a lot of time spent on the road in the two year span, how have you managed to keep your sanity intact?

Mike: We drink a lot.

I’ve heard you also seem to get up to a lot of pranks out on the road like there was an incident recently involving “nut sacks” and staples?

Mike: Yeah we were out on tour with Nickelback for awhile and Chad Kroeger who likes to throw money around, suggested we staple Blower’s nut sack to my butt! And we did. But in retrospect it probably wasn’t the best idea as it was pretty gross.

How much did Chad pay you to do that?

Mike: $160

So Chad loves doing this sort of thing?

Mike: Yeah, we even lit Blower on fire a few times for Chad too. He really enjoyed that. We really hurt Blower a lot you know.

I know that for a fact as the last time I caught up with him, he showed me all the scars of your handiwork.

Mike: He’s probably got more now! (laughs)

What about the pranks you have pulled on other bands that you’ve toured with?

Mike: Well actually it had to do with Blower again. On the Staind tour that we were on, Blower pulled out his nuts onstage. And we hosed them down with hair spray and then lit them on fire during the segment where Aaron was playing an acoustic thing. And we went out and did that in front of him. But hey, we gave Aaron some pyro effects for his set! (laughs) We are always doing stupid shit like that.

You’re finally nearing the end of this very long tour?

Mark: After we get back from Australia we will have a short run in the United States and then we will begin writing album number two.

Mike: We go into the studio come January, 2008.

"Our guitar sound was pretty weak when we first started so I'm glad we actually tweaked it when we did."

How is the next album coming along, is there a lot of pressure on you in the wake of the success of Extreme Behavior?

Mark: I wouldn’t say pressure as I’m really excited about it personally. I think we’ve got a really good start for it and some really good songs written so far. We have got about six or seven songs written. I think this second album is more like…where the first album is Hinder getting over all the girls and stuff, the second album will be the girls getting over Hinder.

Mike: We’re going to go with 15 songs and then pick 11 or 12 for the album.

Are any of them being currently being performed live?

Mark: Yeah we do one acoustic number called Thing For You and one titled Haven’t Lost You with the full band.

Austin [Winkler, vocals] and Cody [Hanson, drums] usually are the backbone of the songwriting process, how does the process evolve once they bring the songs to the rest of the band?

Mike: When we’re out on the road we have an extra dressing room where we set up a PA and we will go in there and they will kind of show us acoustically what they kind of have so far. Then we will sit down and just kind of start jamming it all out. And it progressively gets better and better as it develops and the song goes to where we like it to go.

Mark, do you share some of the leads with Joe?

Mark: He does most of them. I’m just happy to play rhythm and power chords.

What is your live set-up like?

Mark: The rig I have is a Mesa Boogie Stiletto and I have three guitars with me; a Gibson les Paul GT, which is beautiful and is my main baby. I actually used that guitar on the Lips Of An Angel and Better Than Me videos. And I’ve got a Sparkle Burst Gretsch and I have a Gibson Silver Burst which basically is, instead of being a Sunburst, it has this silver color that goes to a black and it looks really cool. So those are my three main guitars that I have out on the road with me. I don’t use any effect pedals.

Mike: I play through Mesas also as far as amps and cabs go. For basses, I have a bunch of them but when on the road I mainly use Spector basses and usually a five-string. They [Spector] treat me right and they give me a lot of cool shit. They actually just gave me a custom one that they had specially made. It is silver and it has our logo angled down on the bottom.

How do you think your guitar sound has evolved since the first record and now that you been on the road non-stop?

Mark: Our guitar sound was pretty weak when we first started so I’m glad we actually tweaked it when we did. I think we’ve really got it set a year ago when we were on the Nickelback run. We just sat there in a room and just tweaked it and I would tape a white strip on the knobs and I would slowly tweak it from there. I probably annoyed the hell out of all the other bands because I was playing big open chords all day long, but we just nailed it finally there and then. We had to just sit there and do it though.

So what do you consider the highlights of the whole tour so far?

Mike: Picking on that guy right there! (looks to Joe Blower as he walks into the room) It is fun. Actually he just got “heartbeat” tattooed on his nut sack about a month ago while we were on the Papa Roach and Buckcherry tour. The Papa Roach guys had a tattooist artist out with them and so we came up with the bright idea. And he [Blower] was sober when he did it which was really weird.

Mark: Another highlight is that we got to play with Aerosmith last December. It was awesome. The first CD I ever bought was Aerosmith’s Big Ones and to get to share the stage with them was a dream come true.

Mike: Also to be able to play shows every day and the fact that we’re playing for 15,000 to 18,000 people sometimes is amazing. And the way the shows have progressed and not only with the crowd size which is a big part of it, but also their reaction to our progression as a live band. We’re getting better and better and better at what we do and it is cool because you can see the progression. And that is a highlight for me.

"We go into the studio come January, 2008."

In what ways do you think success changed you?

Mark: I think I just have more money now. I don’t think as people we have changed at all. We are still the same boys from Oklahoma.

Mike: We haven’t changed a damn thing. It is more in the way people perceive us and act around us now that has changed. Like when I go home I catch shit from all my friends, like I’ll go out and they’ll go “oh a rock star”…you know they’re just giving me shit for no reason. So it is the people around us that have changed.

The last time I spoke to Blower, he told me that if Hinder could back in time to 1987, they could out do Motley Crue in the sex, drugs and drink department?

Mike: We’d definitely give them a run for their money. But I would say they’ve got us on the drugs and shit but I think we could drink them under the table. We would give it a damn good shot that is for sure.

Mark: That is a bold statement we’re making.

Mike: Yeah.

Do you think that Hinder were born in the wrong generation then?

Mike: It is probably better that we are of this generation because if we were hanging out back then funny enough, I’d be a junkie.

Why are there so different versions of Extreme Behavior?

Mark: We just do different promotional things like we do stuff with Walmart and Best Buy back home. Actually a re-release is coming out this week here in Australia of our album and it has a DVD with it called You Can't Make This Shit Up. The DVD is awesome because it captures all the shit backstage, all the girls and everything. And it has got extra bonus songs on it and a full live show all on DVD.

Finally can you share with us one unknown fact about yourself that may surprise your fans?

Mark: That my dad is a preacher. I don’t think a lot of people know that.

Since he’s a preacher, how does he cope with you being on the road and with all the tales of debauchery?

Mark: He is one of the biggest Hinder supporters around. Ever. Like if we go out, I’m like “Dad don’t tell any one what I do” and he’s like, “he’s my son and he’s in Hinder”. I’m like, “Oh my God”.

Mike: I don’t want to put too much out on the table but I piss my bunk a lot. I guess when I’m hammered I’ll wake up in a wet bunk every once in a while.

Mark: It only has happened about four times in the last month.

Mike: Yeah it’s been pretty heavy lately. (laughs)

2007 © Joe Matera

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Comments

[Rhythm__Guitar]

Hated by the critics (who really don’t get it) and loved by their fans and the music loving masses, Hinder are nothing but your perfect good time, rock and roll band.

I stoped reading there.

[broken fusion!]

I love how he mentioned that guys nuts like 100000 times

[blacktop_21]

Hinder are the cancer that is killing the ideals that rock 'n' roll was formed on many many years ago. They are a pathetic excuse for a rock band.

However I respect that they understand & have admitted to the fact they are only another mass-produced modern day rock band & more than likely will be condemned to the bargain bin within 18 months & also the only personal satisfaction they can EVER hope to achieve from their "music" is getting laid by groupies.

I am disappointed in Ultimate Guitar for even posting this shit but at the same time I am not surprised, as there nothing that any of us can do about the "popularity" of these cheesy, clichéd ridden outfits nor the influence of posting something about them presents.

[titsmcgee852]

i cant believe they call themselves the bad boys of rock

[the_bi99man]

The only reason hinder sells so well is because they're freaking pop-rock. Anything that gets play on the pop radio station is almost a guaranteed platinum record these days. At least bands like Nickelback and Linkin Park get play on the pop stations and the rock stations. The real rock radio stations won't even touch guys like Hinder... and Daughtry... oh god... Anyways I stopped reading when their guitarist (I use the term loosely) mentioned that he has a Les Paul Silverburst (and then went on to explain what it looks like as if the people reading an interview on a guitar website wouldn't know). That ******* isn't fit to even touch the choice guitar of the great Adam Jones.

[Mr. Altoid]

Hinder just wish they were Motley Crue.

[Kinderfeld]

I'd be embarrassed if someone announced that I was a member of Hinder in public, too =P

[tehbensonzorz]

ive never listened to them but the interview makes em seem like pretty cool guys.

[Sixpack5001]

well, sure beats that emo shit

Checked.

[underwater_lad]

These are the kind of things that drive people like me to suicide.

[werty22]

The group is on their final legs of their current two year world trek and one which will soon rap up in the United States.

Wrap up.

[jpast]

That ***** isn't fit to even touch the choice guitar of the great Adam Jones.

So true so true. How many answers pertained to music and how many pertained to nuts??

[mchugh92]

how does this have anything to do with music? he talks about blowers nuts through the entire ****in interview!!! i dont wanna hear about some guys nuts!!!!

[raihidara]

*sigh*...whatever happened to originality in rock?

[soulphonate]

Hinder...More like Hindon't... Beats me. These guys are so unbrutal that it's brutal. The interview wasn't very good either (on both ends). Also, Motley Crue would do some lines and drink these guys under the table. I have a sour taste in my eyes now.

Checked.

[Stonewall X]

No egos, eh? So then why did they claim in an earlier interview that they "bring the fun back to rock 'n' roll"?

Paying someone to staple their nuts to someone else's butt is not a prank. If they woke up in that position, it would be. Either way, though, it's gross and stupid and I can't believe they decided to share that with us.

Kinderfeld wrote:

I'd be embarrassed if someone announced that I was a member of Hinder in public, too =P

^^^^
Haha. Good one!

[mp3stalin]

wow. chad kroger is a bet-a-holic acording to this.

[shoebox_of_lies]

its kinda like theyre trying to do the whole Blink-182 immature but funny thing, except they're not actually funny. And staple your balls to some guy's ass? Come on, can you spell T-O-O-L? (not the band, as in the kind of person you use)

[laxslinger]

Regardless of what the 12 year-old virgins on this site think, these guys are getting paid very well to live the dream. Be a hater if you want but we'd all love to be doing the same thing.

[hoppo90]

when any of u mugs who have bin slating Hinder produce some shit worth any airtime and i hear it on the rock station, then u can say something. But until that point shut up as they are clearly better than you! These guys have produced some decent tracks and theyre a good band. nuff said

[mr kipling]

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned that one of them has wet himself four times in the last month. That isn't exactly cool or fun,to be honest.

[edibledevilboy]

Ageed - they're unoriginal. and very mainstream poppy... but i really like a couple of their songs, still.

but i'll only buy the albums of artists that i feel are innovative in some way. Hinder aren't included

[Shabalaba]

Yeah wet the bed, i mean thats pretty sad, nothing to be proud of

[soulphonate]

hoppo90 wrote:

when any of u mugs who have bin slating Hinder produce some shit worth any airtime and i hear it on the rock station, then u can say something. But until that point shut up as they are clearly better than you! These guys have produced some decent tracks and theyre a good band. nuff said

When a band goes public and depends on the public, the public are the ones who are allowed to have the opinions. If someone put out an equally popular album and had an opinion on these guys, it would be the same as anyone with ears or a taste for good music would have. I don't get your point in thinking that just because someone has success at something than they should exclusively be allowed the right to form an opinion. Lame. Don't suppress the people's voice. Also, "decent tracks" does not apply to these guys (opinion).

[staind_dust87]

How come a band today can rip off every good band from the 80's and then call them selves original? And how are they "Bad Boys Of Rock" when the only thing there known for is a bunch of pussy ballads? god, I hate this band.

[Jawkster]

this is one of those bands that are seriously doing it just for the money. Some other bands do it for the money and because they like making music. Real bands do it for the music.

[Elohel]

mr kipling wrote:

I'm suprised no-one has mentioned that one of them has wet himself four times in the last month. That isn't exactly cool or fun,to be honest.

It's not cool or fun, but it's XTR3ME3 BR00TAL METAL.

Also, whoever told Hinder it was cool to mix hair metal with post-grunge needs to be nicely reminded they don't have a clue on music.

[Fieldy477]

Hinder, there are so many bands that are "so much better than you"

[Pr0az]

I like them...better than half the other rock music out. The song "Get Stoned" was badass.

[Harvey_Danger]

laxslinger wrote:

Regardless of what the 12 year-old virgins on this site think, these guys are getting paid very well to live the dream. Be a hater if you want but we'd all love to be doing the same thing.

No, I really wouldn't. Drugs, drinking, and *****s do not = rock star.

[dirtymexican863]

Nickelback 2.0 = Hinder

Which is by no means a good thing

[rebreh]

Hinder is just a rip off of creed(just compare them for a little) To me they are what little girls listen to. They are just a quick pop rock fad

[DR_SH]

Personally I've got nothing against them. I bought their album a few months back, but it was nothing special. There's 3 maybe 4 good tracks on it..... there living the rock and role dream, but their music lacks a little of the muscle that you'd expect of a rock band.

[rockr09]

I thought he played a Les Paul Goddess (chuckle)

[HurricaneSG]

they are nickelback 2

[Insomnia57]

Man, its bands like these that are killing rock, they sing meaningless songs that get them famous....thats not the way to do it.

[Insomnia57]

It's not cool or fun, but it's XTR3ME3 BR00TAL METAL.

Also, whoever told Hinder it was cool to mix hair metal with post-grunge needs to be nicely reminded they don't have a clue on music.

heheh, nicely done

[noitisnt6]

i met the lead singer, and he is a dick, they arent nice at all.

[MidnightHours]

In winnipeg ticketmaster had to give the tickets away because nobody was buying them. They still couldnt fill the half bowl with free tickets. That's just funny. Plus they said in the paper that the singer was wearing the same clothes that he wore the show before and the last time he was here. Sick.

[ghoulsnightout]

i dont understand why people think that because you get on the airwaves your a good band. this is the exact thinking that has made the music these days suck ass and its like...cool music for 40 year old men going through a mid life crisis or something "im 40 and still cool" and overly hormonal 14 year old girls. watch theyll be the next one busted for messin with underaged chicks...and boom there goes their rock n roll dream haha so much for the sex and drugs

and who would wanna bring back half assed hair metal ballads? hair metal was terrible haha

[adslam3]

hinder's a shit band and this interview proved it. more talentless losers in the spotlight...
and, laxslinger, i don't think anyone on this site would want to trade places with these guys, no matter what. imagine waking up each day knowing your music is pure garbage? i'll take a non-rockstar life any day

[Hellraiser33]

I saw these guys live last year and they are coming again to my city, which is a relatively small city. The only good band that has came here in the past 10 years is Motley Crue. I think they like to go to small towns like mine because they know that EVERYONE will go because we NEVER get any kind of rock concert so people will settle for anything, and this is what gets them popularity.

[Stonewall X]

laxslinger wrote:

Regardless of what the 12 year-old virgins on this site think, these guys are getting paid very well to live the dream. Be a hater if you want but we'd all love to be doing the same thing.

Uh, no. I don't care if I never make a dime playing my music. I'm just doing it because it's something I love doing. Hinder might wanna try that sometime.

And actually, I'm almost 20, thank you very much

I agree with Harvey_Danger. Doing drugs and getting drunk does not make a rock star. I happen to think those are a waste of time and money, not to mention life.

[dpdogg]

as ashamed as i am to say this, hinder is a great rock band. sure, "lips of an angel" sucks completely. But listen to songs like "room 21" or "bliss". they are great, catchy songs with good licks. better than most of what's played on rock radio these days.

[Heaviside]

Hinder f***in blows, agreed, perhaps maybe even why they named their guitarist Blower. As far as unoriginality goes, count the songs where vocalist Austin Winkler doesn't wine about a girl leaving him.... oh wait there are none. Bad boys of rock my ass, until they get off the topic about a whiny b*tch crying over his lost love they'll never even come close to the likes of Aerosmith or Motley Crue. Yet why do they keep comparing themselves to bands like that? Right, because they don't have big egos....

[dpdogg]

heaviside-are you implying that aerosmith and motley crue don't have loads of love songs...take a listen.

[Heaviside]

Hey dpdogg, I'm implying that Aerosmith and Motley Crue have more than just love songs.... (Dude Looks Like a Lady, Sweet Emotion, Sick as a Dog, Dream On, Roadrunner, Back in the Saddle, Smokin' in the Boys Room, Wildside, Livewire, Kickstart My Heart, Toast of the Town.... the list goes on) Oh hey that one backfired and just in case you don't think I've listened enough, I've also seen both of those bands. Sooooo anyways, my point has been made right, loud and clear dpdogg!

[Agony098]

This is exaclty why I've stopped reading the forums.

Music is all about opinion, either you like the way a band sounds or you don't. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean that they suck. There are so many people that go "Fuck that band, they suck...disgrace to music...no talent..."
...Personally, I think it's ridiculous how there are so many idiots that have nothing better to do than hate on bands they don't like.
If you like a band, awesome, listen to em, do your thing. If you don't like them, don't listen to them and shut the **** up.

MUSIC IS ALL OPINION, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ARGUE ON WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT ISN'T

[cakeandpiemofo]

People still talk about Hinder?

Wow

[Jamah]

The only reason hinder sells so well is because they're freaking pop-rock. Anything that gets play on the pop radio station is almost a guaranteed platinum record these days. At least bands like Nickelback and Linkin Park get play on the pop stations and the rock stations. The real rock radio stations won't even touch guys like Hinder... and Daughtry... oh god... Anyways I stopped reading when their guitarist (I use the term loosely) mentioned that he has a Les Paul Silverburst (and then went on to explain what it looks like as if the people reading an interview on a guitar website wouldn't know). That ***** isn't fit to even touch the choice guitar of the great Adam Jones.

Yeah...what color is silverburst anyway? What a joke?

[Jamah]

...i meant 'what a joke!!'

[dpdogg]

heaviside-i understand that aerosmith and the crue don't only write love songs...but a good chunk of their songs ARE love songs...and you can't fairly judge hinder as a band who just writes love songs, after all, they only have one album out. point taken, but my point should also be taken, whether you like hinder or not.

[Heaviside]

Trust me dpdogg, I've given them a fair trial, after buying Hinder's debut due to all the hype and listening to it through, I believe I can make judgement on it's originality. There is only ONE topic throughout the album, (with the exception of "Room 21"), and that is losing love. Thematically it is unroginal, I've taken your point, believe me but at this point what I maintain is not an opinion but a fact. Thematically all of their songs as of right now are lost love songs, debut album or not, it's still lyrically unoriginal.

[dpdogg]

didn't claim that it was original. with the exception of a few bands, nothing is original anymore. but end of argument. both points taken. have a good day.

[stoneburner655]

not my favorite but definately better than the emo crap.

[scarfacesuit]

I kind of like these guys. I mean, their music, in my opinion, isn't too bad, but I have a very broad taste in music, so don't flame me too much here.
Bad boys of rock they may not be, but they sound like a bunch of cool dudes regardless.

[Hobo279]

Sixpack5001 wrote:

well, sure beats that emo shit

my thoughts exactly xD

Chill with the Flaming/Spamming.

Checked.

[mobious128]

I used to have a girlfriend that listened to hinder. Whem we broke up, I cried tears of joy, Cause I would never have to listen to that $hit again. Ya know how hard it is to bone to "Lips of an Angel"?

[ce12872001]

I really can't fathom how anyone would enjoy their music at all...I mean its really just completely awful. There is not a single tiny bit of anything that could be considered talent in any of their "music".

[3 days grace14]

Stonewall X you are absolutly right {and I am not kissin ass} drugs and booze dont make rock it makes dumass stapling his nuts to to a bandmates ass and yeah they are trying to be nickelback and they dont got shit sorry to you hinder fans out there but you aint never heard ROCK

[3 days grace14]

my girlfriend likes them though so I play her lips of an angel so I understand guys in this postition

[jpgr9900]

wow they are sooooo good.....not! somebody seriously needs to burn all the members of hinder

[Jondy]

I don't think I've ever had to hear any of their crap. I don't listen to the radio. Gave up on it a couple years ago.

[Fishermann]

mobious128wrote:
I used to have a girlfriend that listened to hinder. Whem we broke up, I cried tears of joy, Cause I would never have to listen to that $hit again. Ya know how hard it is to bone to "Lips of an Angel"?


That is friggin' hilarious!

[Death_Bat_6661]

Hinder = Shit

they are an embarrassment to all things mildly rock and or roll

they are poisoning the airwaves with their poser tripe and should be exterminated for actual "talented"(a word that seems to escape radio DJ's these days) bands and musicians to take their rightful place on the charts

[opiate666]

this band blows and shouldnt have made a record in the first place.

[psilocyndreams2]

i would have to say that hinder is one of the worst bands ever, maybe even worse than limp bizkit. and i would take that whiny pseudo-emo shit over this any day. at least that garbage is catchy.

[backtobasic]

I saw this band live with Buckcherry and Papa Roach. Hinder was headlining, but Buckcherry and Papa Roach put on really good shows and I got my money worth. Then Hinder came on and they were so boring and only sang two songs I recognized. That was after six songs so me and my friends left. I head their new stuff and it sounds the same as the old. I knew it was time to go because they cover "born to be wild" because it was a "popular" Nascar song. I hope I never hear them on the radio again.

[thatoneday]

I'd do anything to be as rich as they are. They seem to be having fun...so let em play to their audience.

[codeezie]

and by the way, hoppo, as an aspiring musician, i'd have to say that getting played on a modern rock radio station in this age is not exactly one of my main goals. Sharing the airwaves with hard rockin' acts like Hinder, Daughtry, Buckcherry, and other similar knock offs, while appealing, just isn't what I strive for.

[Aerotides]

i hate radiofilth like these guys.

two weeks after their single was on the radio, everyone in the world forgot about hinder.

I wish it would stay this way.

[Paroxysm]

To everyone, a life of poverty as a musician or the life of fortune as a pop star? Be honest now.

[clincher09]

"loved by their fans and the music loving masses"

lol

I'm ashamed that they are from my city

[_Marooned_]

"The DVD is awesome because it captures all the shit backstage, all the girls and everything"

That guy sounds like a tool.

[deus ex machina]

"I think this second album is more like…where the first album is Hinder getting over all the girls and stuff, the second album will be the girls getting over Hinder."

Are they finally coming out of the closet?

[b_raden21]

i love how everyones comments are about hinder sucking dick. i agree. they're giving the backstreet boys a run for their money on the pop charts.

[noahray]

Aerotides :
i hate radiofilth like these guys.

two weeks after their single was on the radio, everyone in the world forgot about hinder.

that is such a lie, their shitty songs still invade kmart radio daily, as if working at kmart didn't suck enough already.

hinder is the most generic ripoff band i have heard in years. if you're into boring, whiny, ballsackless shitlike this i really pity you...

[thereverendsoup]

I didn't think it was possible to be more banal and derivative and just all-'round terrible than Nickelback, but these guys did it.

[coolblu2]

Hinder may not be classic rock or heavy rock but they are still Rock they're music is great but some of their lyrics are a bit immoral these guy are giving life their best they are living the dream of a musician all you who mock this band are either really fussy with the music you listen to or jelous that they are out in the world doing what they love to do and getting paid well for it I just wish they'd do a concert in Auckland New Zealand

[Fieldy477]

Agony098 :
This is exaclty why I've stopped reading the forums.

Music is all about opinion, either you like the way a band sounds or you don't. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean that they suck. There are so many people that go "Fuck that band, they suck...disgrace to music...no talent..."
...Personally, I think it's ridiculous how there are so many idiots that have nothing better to do than hate on bands they don't like.
If you like a band, awesome, listen to em, do your thing. If you don't like them, don't listen to them and shut the **** up.

MUSIC IS ALL OPINION, MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE TO ARGUE ON WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT ISN'T

Obviously you didnt stop reading forums...

[Fieldy477]

On the other hand. I do agree with you, Agony098. If it werent for opinion, all music would be the same. But in my opinion, hinder is not a good band.

Apparently you guys don't realize that I said no flaming/spamming. :P

Checked.

[friendly fire]

I think you mods should give us users a break on the flaming. I mean come on.

[friendly fire]

Actually I can't stop there. I'm not really that concerned about their awful music as I've only heard it two times on radio and I don't really listen to radio much.
What concerns me is that they don't deserve it. Their arrogance and stupidity has really come shining through in this interview. They appear to be in it almost entirely for the lifestyle, which they pull off with absolutely no wit or charisma whatsoever. I also get the impression that their self indulgent wank about all the girls and drink is exaggerated so they can feel cooler about themselves.
As far as guitar playing goes, the only thing I learnt from reading this interview is that this twit only plays 'powerchords' (from his own words), and he uses no effects pedals. There are plenty of great bands that don't use any effects but I somehow think this guy could really use some.
I honestly cannot believe that any users on this site would like this band. Its simple in the worst possible way.

[evilmetalboy]

rebreh wrote:

Hinder is just a rip off of creed(just compare them for a little) To me they are what little girls listen to. They are just a quick pop rock fad

no way dude. at least creed had Tremonti. he can shred like a motherf*cker. hinder's "guitarist" just plain sucks ass.

[evilmetalboy]

Sixpack5001 wrote:

well, sure beats that emo shit

i'm not exactly sure about that. i mean, emo bands can be just as cheesy, but at least some of them can write decent lyrics and/or music. don't get me wrong; i'm not too big on emo, but at least some (very few, of course)emo bands put a lot of thought into their music, instead of just focusing on what will sell (which is what the rest of them do).

[guitarpimp67]

i dont see any of you on stage playing the music you wrote and having mass followers. piss off

[Riot Act]

the first two paragraphs are absolute bull...

[MXNAD348]

werty22 wrote:

The group is on their final legs of their current two year world trek and one which will soon rap up in the United States.

Wrap up.

glad im not the only one who caught that, haha. and as for the emo thing, I'm not spokesperson for emo, but at least it's not cookie-cutter radio pop-rock and some of it actually takes some creativity and talent. Emo bands usually have decent lyrics that require thought and at least being passionate about making the music, sounds like the only thing Hinder is worried about is impressing chicks-which is pretty pathetic. Just my $.02. I don't particularly listen to either, but if I had to choose, I'd leave Hinder on the rack.

[Whereistheline]

I have just one question. If all you guys hate Hinder so much and think they're music is crap why did you read this interview in the first place? I olny read the interviews of bands that I like/am intersted in.

I don't think I've ever had to hear any of their crap.

If you've never heard it then how do you know it's crap?

[guitarpimp67]

write your own stuff and try to sell me that its not crap... they obviously did something right to be where they are... and untill i hear you doing it, dont give anyone crap. and about the emo stuff... whos trying harder to impress, think about it

[MXNAD348]

guitarpimp67 wrote:

write your own stuff and try to sell me that its not crap... they obviously did something right to be where they are... and untill i hear you doing it, dont give anyone crap. and about the emo stuff... whos trying harder to impress, think about it

i don't play guitar to sell millions of records, i play because it's fun and something to improve at and something i really like to do. what they did "right" is make a bunch of lame songs with generic radio-safe lyrics and progressions that hardly tap into any sense of depth or creativity; shallow, uninteresting songs that don't spark anything or evoke any feeling or provoke any thought, as good music should. Bands like this are like a one-size-fits-all shirt; by making music that they think will be ok for everyone, it doesn't REALLY fit anyone well. It's all a matter of opinion though, and that's my opinion. As for the emo's, I really don't see where you are coming from.

[Aerotides]

noahray wrote:

Aerotides :
i hate radiofilth like these guys.

two weeks after their single was on the radio, everyone in the world forgot about hinder.

that is such a lie, their shitty songs still invade kmart radio daily, as if working at kmart didn't suck enough already.

hinder is the most generic ripoff band i have heard in years. if you're into boring, whiny, ballsackless shitlike this i really pity you...

Agreed. And good use of ballsackless.

[c_rider1726]

to everyone who blasts hinder F*** off! Hinder is played where i'm from more on the real rock stations than the pop rock ones. God Damn it seems like no one can have success or a little fun these days without everyone calling them sell out pussies cuz they're jealous of the success. Get a f*in life the_bi99man what have you written that's on ANY radio station?

[mannyfresh]

yes!!!!!
man it's kik a$$ that you guys see through this bullsh** band.
These guys are just adding to the music wasteland that is "rock" nowadays.

[MrDURPEEDURP]

Vains Of Jenna > Hinder

both with that old Motley Crue gen. style...
cept Vains Of Jenna has the look and better songs...
so yeah.

this was a waste of time reading though, i thought Hinder was gonna turn from bleh to a hardcore or hardrock or metal album

[clincher09]

guitarpimp67 wrote:

write your own stuff and try to sell me that its not crap... they obviously did something right to be where they are... and untill i hear you doing it, dont give anyone crap. and about the emo stuff... whos trying harder to impress, think about it

So you're aaying since millions of people like them they are good? I guess that means since millions of people smoke it's healty for you, right?

[dudewithapen]

I lke 'em This is coming from a goober who is into death metal and 80's guitar wizards like Vai, Satriani, Petrucci, Timmons, Lynch, etc. Sometimes music doesn't have to be 100% original to be a good listen. How many guys Winkler's age sound like him, though? He's really got a unique voice or his age bracket, considering most kids his age are a bunch of emo...insert word here.

[PMAC01]

Hey all you whiny pro-opinion people or talentless Hinder fans! Why don't you wake up or shut up already. Geez. This article is read by Hinder-hating, hard-rocking, guitar-loving fans of this site in a vain attempt at hoping that this band could totally change for the better. But apparently they are not going to. They are just as hypocritical and retarded as they are being portayed as in all the posts that bash them. And, if you want to tell me to get my songs on the radio and stop being jealous, I will tell you to stop being a poser-wannabe like Hinder. Some of us haven't gotten our big break yet, or do not have ambitions to go public or famous. I'm of the second type. So shove it up your ass with all your wimpy, rock-killing, music-xeroxing attitudes.

Dragonforce, Drist, Guns and Roses, Black Sabbath, and many such bands are the ones that rule! Not stupid Hinder, not self-repeating Nickelback, not Blink-182 rip-offs, or any other talentless bands you guitar wannabes want to support. Go learn how to really play and appreciate music you bums.

[guitarmanzac]

Rhythm__Guitar wrote:

Hated by the critics (who really don’t get it) and loved by their fans and the music loving masses, Hinder are nothing but your perfect good time, rock and roll band.

I stoped reading there.

yeah haha. this band sucks. "im just happy playing power chords and rhythm." thats what i call boring.

[FinderofNemo]

PMAC01 wrote:

Hey all you whiny pro-opinion people or talentless Hinder fans! Why don't you wake up or shut up already. Geez. This article is read by Hinder-hating, hard-rocking, guitar-loving fans of this site in a vain attempt at hoping that this band could totally change for the better. But apparently they are not going to. They are just as hypocritical and retarded as they are being portayed as in all the posts that bash them. And, if you want to tell me to get my songs on the radio and stop being jealous, I will tell you to stop being a poser-wannabe like Hinder. Some of us haven't gotten our big break yet, or do not have ambitions to go public or famous. I'm of the second type. So shove it up your ass with all your wimpy, rock-killing, music-xeroxing attitudes.

Dragonforce, Drist, Guns and Roses, Black Sabbath, and many such bands are the ones that rule! Not stupid Hinder, not self-repeating Nickelback, not Blink-182 rip-offs, or any other talentless bands you guitar wannabes want to support. Go learn how to really play and appreciate music you bums.

You win

[Set-Abominae]

Definitely not a fan. And to the mods: why are articles about bands like this posted, if everyone knows it's just gonna degenerate into a massive flame-fest?

[dieselmac]

What a bunch of drug addicts. Maybe they'll get hit by the Gaithers Bus

[SL!!!]

Worst band ever. They make nickelback look good...hahahaha, just kidding, they're bad but no one could do that.

[SL!!!]

thatoneday wrote:

I'd do anything to be as rich as they are. They seem to be having fun...so let em play to their audience.

Hurray for standards. /sarcasm.

[the.spine.surfs]

I have their cd. I kept it only because the boobs on the cover make it a cool drink coaster.

friendly fire wrote:

I think you mods should give us users a break on the flaming. I mean come on.

Why? So then someone else will come on and flame you back? That makes loads of sense. As long as you have reasoning behind your opinion and don't say "omg t3h suckzors c0cK!!!", you'll be alright.

Checked.

[evilmetalboy]

dudewithapen wrote:

I lke 'em This is coming from a goober who is into death metal and 80's guitar wizards like Vai, Satriani, Petrucci, Timmons, Lynch, etc. Sometimes music doesn't have to be 100% original to be a good listen. How many guys Winkler's age sound like him, though? He's really got a unique voice or his age bracket, considering most kids his age are a bunch of emo...insert word here.

on the voice thingy... it's not that hard to sound like him. just eat a sh!t load of cheese and try to take a dump and sing along to the "Extreme Behavior" album while you try and force your constipated bowels to cave in. obviously, no one wants to sound like a constipat3d old man when they sing, so of course no other rock singer sounds like him...

[Cresspo]

well, i have absolutely NEVER heard any of their songs but it CAN'T be any worse then all the computer ''musik''. I mean like come on: what would you prefer to listen? Trance, dj's or other crap or at least some power chords?

[No_Quarter]

wow..... Hinder actually play their guitars??
(if thats what you call it)

[deadlyMETAL]

werty22 wrote:

The group is on their final legs of their current two year world trek and one which will soon rap up in the United States.

Wrap up.

I saw that, too. lol

[SabbathBeatles]

Bad Boys of Rock? from what I can tell from this interview or other true stories, they weren't "bad". Unless they were talking about their music. then they would be right.

[BennyStruggle]

Hinder is so good. They aren't generic and sappy at all. I can't understand why people would dislike Hinder..I mean? What is so wrong with them? Other then the fact they are the type of people where if you meet them you have a urge to kick them in the head. Wannabe rock stars. They will never be cool.

[BennyStruggle]

This interview was full of classics like this :
Mike: I don’t want to put too much out on the table but I piss my bunk a lot. I guess when I’m hammered I’ll wake up in a wet bunk every once in a while.

Mark: It only has happened about four times in the last month.

Mike: Yeah it’s been pretty heavy lately. (laughs)

what a joke...

and this piece of gold here ;

Mike: Yeah, we even lit Blower on fire a few times for Chad too. He really enjoyed that. We really hurt Blower a lot you know.


Chad Kreugers lackies?? Thats like the lowest of the low.

[rock_foreverr]

"It's good to come home once in a while and see your friends and family, but when you're used to getting hammered and blasting music on a bus with 20 girls, going to your nephew's T–ball game gets really boring. Like, how do people do this?"

"Dude, I'm ****ed up out of my mind right now. I'm trying desperately to sober up. I've been drunk for 24 hours straight. We had to get up at five this morning, for a radio interview in Dallas. So instead of going to bed, me and Blower stayed up all night and drank. We finally went to sleep around four. Then we woke up an hour later and started slamming Jäger bombs. But we pulled it off: We did the interview, played a couple of songs and went right back to doing shots. We're pros!"

"Turns out there's not a whole lot to do in Mobile, Alabama. We went to the mall for a while, but they kicked us out for playing baseball in a K·B Toys store. Then we just made the best of it and got annihilated at Applebees. Finally, around 11, we got on the bus and headed for Boca Raton. I hear it's a big retirement destination. Hopefully they'll be a lot of granddaughters there."

"You know, people sometimes ask if I ever got tired of getting wasted and hooking up with random chicks — don't I want something more out of life? To be honest, I don't care what they think. Nothing about my job sucks. I'm 24, young, and I'm stupid. I can't ask for anything more."

The quotes above are from interviews that Hinder did while on tour. Wow rock and roll gods all right! and all around nice guys! ----Translation----STDs, no future, alcoholics, and *******s to boot! Keep living the dream, i guess? Oh yeah, "We're Pros!"

[rock_foreverr]

Oh yeah and Chad Kroeger likes balls i guess!

[METALHEAD 91zb]

These guys are ****ing irritating. I could't imagine what their girIfriends think. "I date guys who staple their nutsacks to their legs!" "I can go no lower than these morons."

[rock_foreverr]

We have our own Jager-machine! We're Hinder! Yeah! Uhhhhh! We're rock star badasses! Nut-sack stapling and peeing the bed from getting wasted! Yeah! We're pros! Slay chicks and drink jager-bombs! That's our motto! Oh yeah, and we are all around nice guys right? FAGGOTS!

[rock_foreverr]

on the voice thingy... it's not that hard to sound like him. just eat a sh!t load of cheese and try to take a dump and sing along to the "Extreme Behavior" album while you try and force your constipated bowels to cave in. obviously, no one wants to sound like a constipat3d old man when they sing, so of course no other rock singer sounds like him...

Thats the best comparison I've heard yet! Oh i love all of us Hinderback haters! Its great!

[the boogieman]

"bona fide rockstars" my ass

these guys are a pathetic excuse for a band. they're nothing less than a slightly watereddown nickelback

[the boogieman]

^nothing more^** sry typo

[mrjiggyfly122]

rebreh wrote:

Hinder is just a rip off of creed(just compare them for a little) To me they are what little girls listen to. They are just a quick pop rock fad

no

[AR/ES]

being that this is a guitar site hinder won't be popular personally im not a fan but they are making alot of money to do **** all and its time people get over that every band isn't going to be the next zepplin and even when zepplin was huge there was alot of shitty music selling lots of records

[southy_11]

Holy Crap ok you faggots out there that don't think hinder's real go listen to that whole album and you'll think it's forreal rock-n-roll. the part of the album that got popular was the poprock crap like lips of an angel. which i don't doubt with this flippin generation of hip hop and rap which is GAAAAAYYYYY. the rest is what reminds me of the 70's and 80's real stuff.

[August_Burns]

Sixpack5001 wrote:

well, sure beats that emo shit

Lol, what did you write that comment just after you cam in from hunting with you're 15 children? Go drink too much and beat your wife.

[DanteLord]

^^agreed.

i really don't care at all about hinder, and i've grown to hate them after their thing against grunge... which is weird considering their music kinda leans in a grungy direction, albeit a shitty one.