Hurt: 'People Compare Us To Pink Floyd For Some Reason'

Receiving comparisons to Pink Floyd is something that would likely send waves of fulfillment through many musicians. So when Hurt guitarist Paul Spatola hears such a comment he’s a little stunned – particular since Floyd is not necessarily one of his main influences.

He was more likely to put on a Led Zeppelin or Van Halen record, even though Hurt has gained a name for itself as an atmospheric, often moody band. On the band’s latest release Vol. II, you get everything from female gospel singers to effects-laden, grandiose arrangements, and it’s fairly easy to see why the Pink Floyd comparison pops up so frequently.

Although most of the songs were written by singer J. Loren Wince years before Spatola began to add his own input, the guitarist told UG that the band as a whole made the decisions in the studio. Spatola’s personal touch is heard throughout, whether through a dobro, lap steel, or a traditional electric. Should you get the opportunity to see Hurt live, you’re also likely be treated to Spatola using a violin bow on his electric guitar, channeling his inner Jimmy Page.

UG: There are quite a few epic songs on Vol. II. Did the band go into the studio with the intention of writing larger-than-life songs?

Paul: Loren, our singer, he had written a lot of these songs a long time ago. That’s why there is Vol. I and this is Vol. II. Most of this stuff was pre-written. So with the exception of “Ten Ton Brick,” which was something me and him collaborated on, and the song “Aftermath,” which is like the companion piece, everything else he had. From where he had it when he first had these songs as demos, we’ve grown as a band. We said, “We’re going into this making this the best that we possibly can. We don’t want to limit ourselves to anything. If we want to use a banjo or if we want to get some chick singers, let’s do it.”

We took a lot of ideas from everybody that was involved, including the producer and all the band members. “You know what I think would be really good here? Let’s try this.” We would try it and if it didn’t work, we wouldn’t use it. If it worked, we’d use it. We asked our manager and people that are really close to use, “What do you think? Is this just ridiculous that we’re doing this? Does this sound good?” The response was usually good.

A lot of people compare us to Pink Floyd for some reason. We don’t sound like that, but just the nature of the songs and where they go and the arrangements. It’s not just a simple verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus out type thing. We try to make the parts of the song fit the lyrics. So if there is something that he wants to scream, it should be heavier. We don’t try to fit it into any certain formula for the record or whatever it is.

Did the record label embrace that attitude?

We actually got really lucky with the label, as far as they really had no involvement in any of the making of it! We got really lucky with the first one. They signed us after our first record was recorded. So they didn’t change anything on it. They said, “Okay.” They just took it and put it out. Same thing for this one. We just went ahead and recorded it and turned it in, and they said, “Yup.” We weren’t sitting in the studio, having a visit from the A&R guy or something.

On the band’s website, there is some talk that the recording process wasn’t always “smooth sailing.” I take it there were some rough patches along the way.

There were. Obviously, when you’re sitting in a studio for 6 months with the same people, they can get on your nerves. One person wants one idea, and the other person doesn’t. So we kind of butt heads a little bit. The producer is like, “Listen, I know what I’m doing! It should go like this.” “No, it doesn’t go like this.” But we got through it and everybody at the other end is completely happy and satisfied with it. No one is disappointed that they didn’t get their way. We get to go on tour and do what we love to do.

The primary song that you co-wrote, “Ten Ton Brick,” stands out as being one of the true rock tracks on the album. Did you come up with the original riff that got the whole thing started?

Yeah. We kind of did a bunch of songs that are a little more mellow and not as heavy as the first one. We needed something that was a little more upbeat and stuff on the album to break it up, so it doesn’t get boring to listen to.

We were on the Alice In Chains tour and we were sitting in a hotel at Myrtle Beach. I had that riff, and he came in and played the idea that eventually became the chorus of the song. He played it like it was a really slow thing, so I just started playing the riff to it that I had. I said, “That will work great to the sort of thing I have.” I kind of made it a little heavier and took it from there. He had vocal ideas, and we worked on it up until we were in the studio recording it. It was something that we always had that we were constantly working on. Most of the other stuff he had pre-written, so it didn’t need too much work.

Did you write that main riff on an acoustic?

Yeah, we wrote it all on acoustic. We’ll be in hotel rooms and on the road all our gear is packed up in a trailer. So we had our acoustic stuff out for when we do radio stuff. So we just ended up using acoustics to write most of our stuff. As soon as you hear it, it just sounds like it should be acoustic. But then you’ve got to plug it in and try it!

"Our singer had written a lot of these songs a long time ago."

“Summers Lost” goes in a lot of different musical directions. Considering how elaborate it is, did it take the most time to write?

He had that for a long time, and I’ve heard many different variations of it. There was one where it was all slow, and then one that was all heavy. I guess he just kind of broke it up and said, “This should be here and that should go there.” When we got together and started playing it as a band, I think we ended up finding out where it should be heavy and where it felt right, where the screaming shit is going to be or where it’s mellow.

Are you playing an acoustic slide on it?

Yeah, I’m playing that on a dobro actually.

When did you decide that the dobro was the right instrument for that song?

I had originally done slide stuff on that. Going into this, we had figured we were going to try a bunch of different instruments. So we tried a bunch of things. We got a banjo, which we ended up using on “Alone With The Sea.” We had a dobro, which we used on “Summers Lost” and “Alone With The Sea.” We’ve got a lap steel on “Assurance.” We just got a bunch of different things that we tried to make the record sound a little bit more broad.

So had you experimented much with the banjo or dobro much before making Vol. II?

I’ve played them before, but it wasn’t anything I had planned on using. So we rented it and I was kind of having to get used to it again. While we were doing other stuff, I would just sit and play it a little bit, getting back into seeing how an instrument actually works and what I can do with it, what I can contribute to the song. There were times that I used it in songs where it just didn’t really work out or where we edited out.

I read that you were originally a piano player. Is that true?

Yes. I still am, actually. I play piano on the record and I play keyboards live. I started playing piano when I was 5. So I’ve been playing that longer than I’ve played guitar.

When did you decide to pick up the guitar?

I guess maybe about 15 years ago. I taught myself how to play. After playing piano, it was really good because it got me used to music theory, chords, and all that kind of thing. The agility of my fingers made it easy for me to just pick up the guitar. At that point, I was listening to Led Zeppelin and Van Halen and all that stuff, and I said, “I want to play guitar!” So I just kind of taught myself how to play guitar.

You mentioned earlier that people have compared your music to Pink Floyd. Are you a fan of the band?

I do like Pink Floyd. I wasn’t like a huge Pink Floyd fan ever. I mean, I like them a lot. I think The Wall is great. Dark Side is great. Actually, all of their stuff is really good. I’m just not really into the real mellow…I never really put it on just to listen to it.

There are some very cool effects that you hear on Vol. II. At the beginning of “Alone With The Sea,” what’s making that low, bellowing sound?

It’s supposed to sound like a whale kind of thing. I think that was done on a cello. I don’t even know! That was something that was recorded like years ago, and we just kind of imported that into it. Live, I do it on guitar. I do it on a guitar with a violin bow.

That’s some great Jimmy Page action.

Yeah. It sounds actually pretty similar to what’s on the record.

Is your setup for the studio basically the same as your live equipment?

No! (Laughs) Not really! A lot of the versions of the songs are completely different because there is so much going on with the record, and there is only 4 of us. But the things that are standout points on the record, people are like, “Wow, that’s really cool.” I think we shouldn’t leave it out of shows. We should find a way to do that live.

Obviously, in like “Talking To God” there’s a bunch of chicks singing gospel kind of stuff. Well, we can’t do that live. But anything else we do as close as we can. We’ll take whatever steps we can to do it live. We’ll use the violin a lot. I play banjo a lot. I play the keyboards and try to cover as many things as we can.

Do the guitars and amps usually stay the same, though?

For the most part, I use the stuff that I use in the studio. We rented some random gear here and there just to get different effects on things, like smaller amps and stuff. Vox and stuff like that, just to get some of the clean tones. But I go out with a Marshall and a Bogner. I used that on the record predominantly with Les Pauls.

Have you always preferred Les Pauls?

Yeah. I play a couple different Les Pauls. I have a Les Paul Baritone that I use on the record and just a couple of standard ones. I used a lot of other stuff, too, on the record. I used an ESP on some things. I used some older Gibsons, too. I used a Flying V and like a ’68 SG. A bunch of random stuff.

Loren plays the ESP, which has a brighter tone to it. I use Les Pauls, which is like a heavier, darker sound. So the mixture is good. He uses completely different equipment than I do. He uses Mesa Boogie and ESPs, so we sound good together. It’s not like the same guitar.

"When you're sitting in a studio for 6 months with the same people, they can get on your nerves."

Will there be a Vol. III?

I don’t want to say no for sure. It’s definitely not going to be the next one that we’re going to do. We’re definitely going to move on from that. This was a collection of stuff that he had prior. We wrote a bunch of new stuff, and we have a lot of stuff ready to go. So we’re going to do something completely different. Then sometime maybe in the future when we feel like we’ve got stuff that’s similar to this kind of thing again or we want to go in this direction again, we’re not leaving it out. But it’s not like a plan right now.

Is your newer material more rock-oriented like “Ten Ton Brick”?

No, not really. That’s just a random thing that just ended up working out great.

There’s a quote from J. Loren stating, “Hurt’s music has the power to save lives.” Can you sense that feeling from the fans?

I do. We get that a lot. A lot of people come up to us after shows and say that, or they’ll put in on their MySpace or our message board and say something like that to him. I guess for a lot of people, the lyrics parallel their lives and they really connect to that stuff – which is great. Those are fans that are really hardcore fans and they support us. It’s great. He says that because he gets a lot of that feedback.

There’s a section on Hurt’s message board where your tablature is also discussed. Do you visit that forum?

I check it occasionally. I mean, I’m not a big computer person, so I’m not really on the computer often. Every once in a while, I’ll go up there, check it out, and see what’s going on. I’ve seen some of the tablature and some of it is pretty close. Not exact, but pretty close!

Are you ever tempted to post a comment about the correct way to play your songs?

No, I prefer if people just try and figure it out. The more they play along with it, they’ll figure it out. There is really more than one way to play it. It’s just that I put my fingers in different spots. But yeah, it’s pretty close.

What’s in store for Hurt in the year ahead?

We’re touring up until Halloween. I don’t know what the plan is after that. We were planning on recording a DVD because we had recorded a bunch of stuff from the last tour. We had recorded a bunch of clips from us in the studio. I don’t know if this is actually going to happen, but we wanted to release Vol. I and Vol. II together as like a full set with a bunch of B-sides that didn’t make it on the record. We would include those, some acoustic performances from radio, some live performances, and some DVD footage. So you could buy both records and get an extra disk. That was our plan. We’ll see what happens.

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Comments

[\m/Torin\m/]

never heard of this guy... lol

[eetfuk58]

i can see why people would compare them to pink floyd.

floyd is soo much better though.

[Comeback Kiddd]

We dont need no education

[DropDeee]

I hate the way the singer moves his mouth.. and it's London 'BOMBS', not London 'Bow-ms'. Grr!!

[thereverendsoup]

I've actually never heard of them, but I listened to one of their songs, and they're pretty much just more radio rock garbage along the lines of Hinderback or whatever.

[Jester.Race]

I got their CD Vol. I for free, and never listened to it until I saw them up on this site and realized they weren't just a shitty indie band. They are alright, distinct singer, which is always nice.

[easthatred]

thereverendsoup wrote:

I've actually never heard of them, but I listened to one of their songs, and they're pretty much just more radio rock garbage along the lines of Hinderback or whatever.

This persone is into indie hell emo while were at it. Dont pay attention to him.

[Octtwe88]

They only play the rock songs on the radio which sucks cause those are usually the worst songs on their albums.

[adslam3]

never heard of them...hmm

[thereverendsoup]

easthatred wrote:
This persone is into indie hell emo while were at it. Dont pay attention to him.

I can also spell and form coherent sentences. What does that say about us relative to one another?

[darkside0418]

dude what are you guys talking about? This band is freakin' awesome!!!! They are godly and are one the best bands ever. They are perfect live and really delve deep into the emotional realm of the human mind. Their lyrics are very poetic. Everyone can find something in their albums to relate to. Sure their stuff isn't normal or mainstream but it is musically ingenious and purely amazing. So don't go around judging other bands before you get to hear them. now pink floyd is great dont get me wrong but there is no way they can be better if they arent even in the same genre or category! Now if you need to know a band that truly sucks its gotta be Fall Out Boy or Hawthorn Heights or watever.

[All0utR0ck]

I agree. Actually listen to the rest of this bands material before you write them off as another Nickelback of Hinder...because this band, honestly, is a million miles from sounding like either. The closest comparison I have heard that this band sounds like is Tool but even that is a little farfetched. They are one of the most original bands out there right now, along with Muse. Give 'em a listen they are worth it.

[Reebokanonymous]

Yeah I only know "Falls Apart" and "Ten Ton Brick," but I think I could really like this band. Does anybody know where I could listen to some of their other music before I buy an album?

P.S. - Did you hear about Hawthorne Heights? Their guitarist just died. I doubt that they would read this thread, but come on.

[ib4n3zz3r]

Great band, great live show. Their music is actually really, really diverse, unfortunately that doesn't really show for any band if all you're gonna do is listen to the singles and then write them off as a "Hinderback" band.

[SpooneyMallard]

thereverendsoup wrote:

easthatred wrote:
This persone is into indie hell emo while were at it. Dont pay attention to him.

I can also spell and form coherent sentences. What does that say about us relative to one another?

It says nothing. The fact remains that you're into "indie hell emo".

[Sephirangel]

Hurt are an awesome band with some really powerful stuff! loom at "Rapture" for instance; i believe it was a true event which happened in the singers life.

[BullonParade]

a lot of people say theyre just another radio rock band, but theyre a lot better than that. the singles they release give you that impression though, the rest of the album is brilliant.

[Shpongled]

Honestly I think Hurt are a very crappy band. I can't believe Josh Ansley left Streetlight Manifesto to be in this band.

[thereverendsoup]

I dig Pink Floyd. And I dig Led Zeppelin. But honestly, this band's singer is annoying, their lyrics are typical alternacrap, and aside from some pretty interesting song structures and the occasional half-assed "experimentation," really don't sound a lot different from most crap on the radio. Comparing this band to legends is laughable.

And you're damn right I like indie rock. I also like metal, pre-1994 emo, classic rock, pre-1970's country, and I know crap when I hear it. This is definitely crap.

[Jesse99999]

thereverendsoup wrote:

I've actually never heard of them, but I listened to one of their songs, and they're pretty much just more radio rock garbage along the lines of Hinderback or whatever.

Because one song, probably a radio single even, is enough to judge a band.

[thereverendsoup]

Jesse99999 wrote:
Because one song, probably a radio single even, is enough to judge a band.

I listened to all the songs they had up on their MySpace shortly after posting that. I'd say I called it pretty accurately.

[vasil]

one of THE bands!!

[emr_steelmech]

All0utR0ck wrote:

I agree. Actually listen to the rest of this bands material before you write them off as another Nickelback of Hinder...because this band, honestly, is a million miles from sounding like either. The closest comparison I have heard that this band sounds like is Tool but even that is a little farfetched. Give 'em a listen they are worth it.

Agreed, they were pretty killer opening for AIC at The Rave. Good live show...kind of mellow chill rock.

[el57]

thereverendsoup wrote:

Jesse99999 wrote:
Because one song, probably a radio single even, is enough to judge a band.

I listened to all the songs they had up on their MySpace shortly after posting that. I'd say I called it pretty accurately.

Yup, hurt pretty much blows folks

[The Necromancer]

Weakest band name ever. But I'll give them a listen in a few minutes.

[The Necromancer]

Yep. Not that good.

[MonsterOfRock]

Who? Who dares compare this band with the almighty Floyd??? And yes, weak name. Only thing I get reminded off from it is the NIN song.

[Gunpowder]

IMO, they're decent, but they are no Pink Floyd. To me, not really worth much more than one or two listens.

[LT.Willshire]

Honestly I think Hurt are a very crappy band. I can't believe Josh Ansley left Streetlight Manifesto to be in this band.

He's like my cousin through marriage, or something like that, dead serious

[ready2breakdown]

Yeah I checked them out a while back and I really just couldn't get into them. I like just about all the bands that they tour with though! lol. But I really wasn't liking their singer and some parts of the music felt so redundant.

I don't know it all just didn't flow right to me...

[ooblah]

Im not a huge floyd fan but at the same time...its pretty big when you say people compare you to them, you better make sure your music follows up.

[Bogiez]

nothin like floyd!. More disturbed meets days of the new, meets alice in chains, meets early tool.

[StringsofBlack]

The Necromancer wrote:

Weakest band name ever. But I'll give them a listen in a few minutes.

Haha i was gonna say the same thing. I havent heard a whole lot of their music, but its a pretty sucky name for a band. How bout making a new band called Pain.

[PinkFloyd071]

I know Floyd (hence the name); Hurt is not at all like Floyd. Just because your use the atmospheric sounds, female gospel singers, and 'effects laden grandoise arrangement' doesn't mean you're at all like Floyd. You need something you don't see too much of today...INNOVATION!!!...Thats what made Pink Floyd great.

[dwightyoakamfan]

Ok i just listened to a few of their songs and it made me vomit that people are comparing them to pink floyd.

[Nole07]

great is probably one of my fav bands now. i first heard of them on xm radio, on Squizz, and loved them and just recently saw them in knoxville, tn live. it was ****ing awesome. and to the comment that hurt is pretty sucky name for a band. what the hell is a pink floyd anyway? i mean thats a pretty sucky name i think. oh well, let the flames begin

[Nole07]

great is probably one of my fav bands now. i first heard of them on xm radio, on Squizz, and loved them and just recently saw them in knoxville, tn live. it was ****ing awesome. and to the comment that hurt is pretty sucky name for a band. what the hell is a pink floyd anyway? i mean thats a pretty sucky name i think. oh well, let the flames begin

[darkside0418]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA YOu guys make me laugh you know that? i cant believe i used to be one of you closed minded mainstream suckers who determined music by certain things. now That I've changed and realy opened my mind to very diverse music I can truly judge the validity of a band. All you guys do is go and listen to one type of music and try and categorize everything else and if it doesnt fit then you throw it out. Or if it sounds different and you really havent experienced it then you do the same. I want yall to think about that and then tell me I'm a liar (and if you do then you are just avoiding the truth cuz idid the same thing). Hurt is not a weak name becuause it is what they are about, theyy adress the hurt in peoples everday lives and tell everyone that its normal and that they could get through it. It is truly sad that the music community of today is very picky and not opened minded...no wonder its so hard for new awesome bands like these to take off...you guys need them to be megadeth or metallica rendition or repeats but why have the same stuff. Pink floyd did the same thing. they knew that being different would get them noticed and thats what hurt is doing...i bet none of yall would of thought of the things they did..so ya'll really need to lay off and stop beating down their name. and in case you didnt notice i defend my bands (liek hurt, creed, and nickelback) which everyone apparently hates. so dont get me started.

[AiCPearlJam]

I met these guys before and after an Alice in chains concert last year. I ate lunch with the bassist at Burger King before the show and he saw me get quite angry when they tried telling me I ordered a BK Chili. He joked about it after the show and they signed a 2 song acoustic demo after the show for me. They are ALL very cool and very nice people and they are going to be big, such a great show for an opener to my favorite band.

[SL!!!]

i used to be one of you closed minded mainstream suckers who determined music by certain things... i defend my bands (liek hurt, creed, and nickelback)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh wow. Are you serious? Hahahahah, good God you're a joke.


Compared to Pink Floyd huh? With that look of intense thought and that soul patch i would have compared him to a total douchebag. Hahaha.

[jables23092]

over the past year Hurt has become one of my most favorite bands...they are absolutely amazing! I don't really understand why people are into hating bands that make music that makes it to the radio either. It has become cool among this community to hate mainstream stuff for no reason...i mean come off it guys, you can like more than one type of music and you dont have to belittle people who can enjoy the most complex or the most simple of songs/artists

[NosferatuZodd09]

pink floyd and zeppellin bore me like hell, i'd prob piss on their graves if they were all dead

[StringsofBlack]

NosferatuZodd09 wrote:

pink floyd and zeppellin bore me like hell, i'd prob piss on their graves if they were all dead

Any credibility you might have possibly had is now nonexistent. Congratulations.

[uberphreak]

NosferatuZodd09 wrote:

pink floyd and zeppellin bore me like hell, i'd prob piss on their graves if they were all dead

Yeah you're a ****ing wonderful person.

I've never heard of Hurt, but this article makes me want to go check them out

[Shihonage]

Hurt are anything but mainstream 'radio rock'. Take a listen to 'House Carpenter', 'Summer's Lost' & 'Alone With the Sea'. The main difference with Hurt to any other band I've come across, really, is the emotional intensity and how much they give when it comes to live performances and even on recorded versions. Half othese songs, from what I gather, are all about the singer's life. Not made up 'alternicrap'. And that's where the name comes from: it's simple, and that's it. These guys aren't lacking technical talent either - the lead singer can play pretty much any stringed instrument save for a harp. Heck, he plays Danse Russe live with a violin and sings at the same time, which can't be easy.

[WH15P3R]

Hurt are great, their first album was nearly flawless.

They had all the moods, they just kick major ass.

[WH15P3R]

and I agree, House Carpenter is a great song.
I listened to that for like 3 days straight...

Also I listen to Forever a couple of hundred times.

They are just great.

[dieloony2]

you wish

[OP1UM]

if anyone else says they're no pink floyd i'm gonna crap myself.they never compared hurt with pink floyd.they only drew a resemblence in the guitarists style.Hell big difference.

[HellrzngPinhead]

How do people compare them to Pink Floyd? They're just another terrible band in the vein of Earshot in that they're just watering down Tool's leftovers, who by the way, regardless of how much I like Tool, is nothing more than a modern day Pink Floyd.

Hell, when you finally get to the bottom of it, Pink Floyd sucks and is horrendously overrated anyways.

[/V\ojo/V\aster]

ya, i don't know this band, but i think before u get mad at the comparison to pink floyd, the guitarist himself said 'A lot of people compare us to Pink Floyd for some reason. We don’t sound like that,...' and i don't think anyone here compared them yet, just somebody made a comment once, probably some1 like Nole07 who doesn't understand certain things.

It has become cool among this community to hate mainstream stuff for no reason

that is probably because mainstream stuff all sounds the same and can be described by the word boring

[mantyce]

Nole07 wrote:
what the hell is a pink floyd anyway? i mean thats a pretty sucky name i think. oh well, let the flames begin

Clown. Pink Floyd comes from two blues musicians from years past....Pink Anderson and Floyd Council.

If you were just kidding around, not funny. If you honestly didnt know that, get your head out of your ass and learn some music history, asshat.

[Confetti]

darkside0418 wrote:

dude what are you guys talking about? This band is freakin' awesome!!!! They are godly and are one the best bands ever. They are perfect live and really delve deep into the emotional realm of the human mind. Their lyrics are very poetic. Everyone can find something in their albums to relate to. Sure their stuff isn't normal or mainstream but it is musically ingenious and purely amazing. So don't go around judging other bands before you get to hear them. now pink floyd is great dont get me wrong but there is no way they can be better if they arent even in the same genre or category! Now if you need to know a band that truly sucks its gotta be Fall Out Boy or Hawthorn Heights or watever.

I wanted to laugh but this comment was just sad >.

[Oli-The-Strange]

darkside0418 wrote:

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA YOu guys make me laugh you know that? i cant believe i used to be one of you closed minded mainstream suckers who determined music by certain things. now That I've changed and realy opened my mind to very diverse music I can truly judge the validity of a band. All you guys do is go and listen to one type of music and try and categorize everything else and if it doesnt fit then you throw it out. Or if it sounds different and you really havent experienced it then you do the same. I want yall to think about that and then tell me I'm a liar (and if you do then you are just avoiding the truth cuz idid the same thing). Hurt is not a weak name becuause it is what they are about, theyy adress the hurt in peoples everday lives and tell everyone that its normal and that they could get through it. It is truly sad that the music community of today is very picky and not opened minded...no wonder its so hard for new awesome bands like these to take off...you guys need them to be megadeth or metallica rendition or repeats but why have the same stuff. Pink floyd did the same thing. they knew that being different would get them noticed and thats what hurt is doing...i bet none of yall would of thought of the things they did..so ya'll really need to lay off and stop beating down their name. and in case you didnt notice i defend my bands (liek hurt, creed, and nickelback) which everyone apparently hates. so dont get me started.

Dude, get your head out your ass. You may think how broad minded your music is but judging from some of the ones you wrote down, it doesn't look at all broad. And don't go saying how people suck of mainstream, because maybe the reason they are mainstream and not some indie balls is because they are worth listening to.

Plus, your list of bands to defend are pretty mainstream. Bloody "Indie" crowds...

[ChazBcWarlock]

HURT kickass

[ReeseKillsHIV]

Well...I'm enjoying all of you asshats arguing, and all that jazz, but, on topic...I saw these guys live early last year with Staind. They were pretty much amazing live.

[Confetti]

darkside0418 wrote:

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA YOu guys make me laugh you know that? i cant believe i used to be one of you closed minded mainstream suckers who determined music by certain things. now That I've changed and realy opened my mind to very diverse music I can truly judge the validity of a band. All you guys do is go and listen to one type of music and try and categorize everything else and if it doesnt fit then you throw it out. Or if it sounds different and you really havent experienced it then you do the same. I want yall to think about that and then tell me I'm a liar (and if you do then you are just avoiding the truth cuz idid the same thing). Hurt is not a weak name becuause it is what they are about, theyy adress the hurt in peoples everday lives and tell everyone that its normal and that they could get through it. It is truly sad that the music community of today is very picky and not opened minded...no wonder its so hard for new awesome bands like these to take off...you guys need them to be megadeth or metallica rendition or repeats but why have the same stuff. Pink floyd did the same thing. they knew that being different would get them noticed and thats what hurt is doing...i bet none of yall would of thought of the things they did..so ya'll really need to lay off and stop beating down their name. and in case you didnt notice i defend my bands (liek hurt, creed, and nickelback) which everyone apparently hates. so dont get me started.

This is even more funny then the first post ^^

And to Hurt.
Hurt hasnt been able to make a record that would go beyond average. One of the most hyped bands in the 21 century and its been all for nothing.
They dont even have a song that would take them from the averageness that they seem to bee dwelling in.

Comparing them to Pink Floyd is a nother big joke in their tale. Pink Floyd was and still is one of the most influential and daring bands in musical history.
Most great bands dont even compare to them and Hurt isnt even great. Hurt is just average.

[Shikari Hybryd]

Some of you people on here really haven't got a clue...
You think Hurt are hyped?? How comes hardly anyone in the UK has heard of em??

They are in a word...AMAZING. The structure of the songs are genius, the vocals are passionate, the musicianship is virtuoso and don't get me started on how phoenominal they are live. If you think this band is "jus anova radio gardbige band" then quite frankly, you can go **** yourself. Now let's hear some positive feedback from people who actually have music taste, eh?

[benenov]

easthatred wrote:

thereverendsoup wrote:

I've actually never heard of them, but I listened to one of their songs, and they're pretty much just more radio rock garbage along the lines of Hinderback or whatever.This persone is into indie hell emo while were at it. Dont pay attention to him.

I'll take indie over hinderback anyday thanks

[farcry]

they're not bad, but I don't hear much of pink floyd in their music at all. Tool is closer to floyd than these dudes.

[DingoDance]

These guys are AMAZING.

[Confetti]

Shikari Hybryd wrote:

Some of you people on here really haven't got a clue...
You think Hurt are hyped?? How comes hardly anyone in the UK has heard of em??

They are in a word...AMAZING. The structure of the songs are genius, the vocals are passionate, the musicianship is virtuoso and don't get me started on how phoenominal they are live. If you think this band is "jus anova radio gardbige band" then quite frankly, you can go **** yourself. Now let's hear some positive feedback from people who actually have music taste, eh?

So you are saying that your musical taste is something so great that peoble that dont like Hurt cant just understand?

I bet that people in the UK would know them if they paid interrest in music media. Not MTV but some of the magazines and shows. Hype mostly doesent come from the average people. It Usually comes from magazines and record labels marketing. In Finland they are not that big and still many people know them.

You need to grow up.

I have a wide musical taste from mainstream to alternative and i find them to be lame. No positive feedback if the band deserves none.

[ib4n3zz3r]

You need to grow up.

I have a wide musical taste from mainstream to alternative and i find them to be lame. No positive feedback if the band deserves none.

Well, I may have misinterpreted this, and I hate to start a shit storm, but... Are you saying your musical taste is so great that because you don't like them, you feel they don't deserve the hype?

[Confetti]

ib4n3zz3r wrote:

You need to grow up.

I have a wide musical taste from mainstream to alternative and i find them to be lame. No positive feedback if the band deserves none.

Well, I may have misinterpreted this, and I hate to start a shit storm, but... Are you saying your musical taste is so great that because you don't like them, you feel they don't deserve the hype?

Well if i take a moment in time to think about their album then yeah they dont deserve the hype.

The previous guy said that you have a bad musical taste if you bash this band and that made him ignorrant.
What does your comment make you? Well not that ignorrant but still.. You actually tought what i meant. He didnt.

And im not saying that i have a good musical taste when i dont lissen to them. He ment it in the opposite way.

Shikari Hybryd wrote:
Now let's hear some positive feedback from people who actually have music taste, eh?

That was just stupid in my books.

I am a critic in a big way, but dont think my musical taste is great because i dont like this or some other band he somebody mentioned.

[Findinghomer]

i cannot believe you guys are comparing HURT to hinder and nickelback...! you clearly do not own any of their albums.. and do not know music. Hurt is probably the best band out there right now, and arent getting the credit they deserve because they are NOT played much on mainstream radio

[dpdogg]

hurt is brilliant...so much better than other newer rock bands.

[CousticStrangla]

I just chedk them out on Myspace and I'll be ok if I never have to hear 'em again.

[CousticStrangla]

Nothing but yet another generic rock band with a generic name. 'sigh'

[toxgoboom]

i realize that beauty is in the eye of the beholder or whatever, but i gotta say it. **** you, CousticStrangla. Fuck. You.

[masterchief614]

CousticStrangla wrote:

I just chedk them out on Myspace and I'll be ok if I never have to hear 'em again.

CousticStrangla wrote:

Nothing but yet another generic rock band with a generic name. 'sigh'

exactly what i was thinking lol. i gave a listen to all thier songs on myspace....leppelin,van halen, and floyd? BWAHAHAHAAA.....yeah....that funny.

[LynchMobster]

darkside0418 wrote:
i defend my bands (liek hurt, creed, and nickelback) which everyone apparently hates.

Yea man. I think Hurts pretty decent. They are definately unique. And as for everyon hating Creed and Nickelback, i just dont get it. well actually chad kroegers lyrics annoy me, but the music can be pretty good at times. But for creed, it doesnt make sense. Stapp is a great singer and Tremonti is a great guitarist. They wrote very quality music. I dont know how people can say they didnt. And this is coming from a guy who has a very broad musical taste.

[blueskid99]

hurt is some pretty good stuff.what i want to know is why everyone crucifies mainstream music.most people seem to class mainstream artists as "sell-outs" and call them talentless.probably most of them are forgetting that most mainstream artists were underground at one point as well.if you seriously want to talk "indie",go find some amazing underground band-and if this "kickass" indie band is as good as everyone says it is,that band will probably wind up mainstream one day too.everyone seems to deem indie rock as good music,but that's not always true.grow up and stop being pissed off that your band hasn't been signed.

[lounge act]

Well, I just listened to "Rapture," and I don't care who its supposed to sound like, I didn't like it at all. I'll check out more of their songs, but if they all sound anything like that one, then I won't like them at all.

[Reebokanonymous]

AiCPearlJam wrote:

I met these guys before and after an Alice in chains concert last year. I ate lunch with the bassist at Burger King before the show and he saw me get quite angry when they tried telling me I ordered a BK Chili. He joked about it after the show and they signed a 2 song acoustic demo after the show for me. They are ALL very cool and very nice people and they are going to be big, such a great show for an opener to my favorite band.

Hey your favorite band's AiC, too? That's cool. What songs do you suggest for this band? Oh, and do you have an account on AiC's official website?

[Confetti]

ib4n3zz3r wrote:
and I hate to start a shit storm, but...

Have to say this is one thing that i hate about people commenting on other bands on UG.
The comments are usually at the level of Youtube.
And Thats not o good thing!

Why cant anyone make a decent conversations about bands without bashing the other opinion,
and calling them F****rs??

[MoonWise]

NosferatuZodd09 wrote:

pink floyd and zeppellin bore me like hell, i'd prob piss on their graves if they were all dead

Well, expect them - and me - to piss on yours.

[lildrummerboy]

When I hear comments like NosferatuZodd09's , I cringe and wonder, how long before music ignorance consumes us all?

[darkside0418]

Oli-The-Strange wrote:

Dude, get your head out your ass. You may think how broad minded your music is but judging from some of the ones you wrote down, it doesn't look at all broad. And don't go saying how people suck of mainstream, because maybe the reason they are mainstream and not some indie balls is because they are worth listening to.

Plus, your list of bands to defend are pretty mainstream. Bloody "Indie" crowds...

Confetti wrote:

This is even more funny then the first post ^^

And to Hurt.
Hurt hasnt been able to make a record that would go beyond average. One of the most hyped bands in the 21 century and its been all for nothing.
They dont even have a song that would take them from the averageness that they seem to bee dwelling in.

Comparing them to Pink Floyd is a nother big joke in their tale. Pink Floyd was and still is one of the most influential and daring bands in musical history.
Most great bands dont even compare to them and Hurt isnt even great. Hurt is just average.

dude yall really need to look around and see what Im talkin about...i said i had a broad taste in music and I do but the bands i listed like creed,hurt, and nickelback are the ones most hated (and for no reason too!) if you really wana kno I'll listen to stuff anywhere from JOb for a cowboy to architecture in helsinki or from Johny Cash to some rap and r& b. even stuff like Hurt to porcupine tree. so yes I do have a broad music range but if you'll get your head out of your ass then you'll see that i clearly said that I will defend my bands... i never said these are the ones i listen to most...geez you guys are truly blinded by your own idiocy XD you guys are truly sad...and i also find it funny you say my comments are funny but i can swear you think its funny cuz you dont want to hear the truth....

oh and thanks for the backup LynchMobster at least you seem to understand.

[rocker91]

Contrary to the singles Hurt actually does some very non-mainstream material in many of their other songs. I'm not sure about the Floyd reference, but they are most definitely worth a listen.

[Mental Hop]

\m/Torin\m/ :
never heard of this guy... lol

Very funny. I had the same thought.

[dewitt]

'People compare us to Pink Floyd for some reason'....I know one good reason. I heard this song of their's on the radio, 'Falls Apart', and the beginning of that song was exactly like the beginning of 'High Hopes' by Pink Floyd. The church bell sounded like a different kind of bell, and it was on piano with Floyd as it was played on guitar by Hurt, but regardless it is a blatant ripoff of the beginning of 'High Hopes' ....might I add neither song is very cool.

[Confetti]

darkside0418 wrote:
dude yall really need to look around and see what Im talkin about...i said i had a broad taste in music and I do but the bands i listed like creed,hurt, and nickelback are the ones most hated (and for no reason too!) if you really wana kno I'll listen to stuff anywhere from JOb for a cowboy to architecture in helsinki or from Johny Cash to some rap and r& b. even stuff like Hurt to porcupine tree. so yes I do have a broad music range but if you'll get your head out of your ass then you'll see that i clearly said that I will defend my bands... i never said these are the ones i listen to most...geez you guys are truly blinded by your own idiocy XD you guys are truly sad...and i also find it funny you say my comments are funny but i can swear you think its funny cuz you dont want to hear the truth....

oh and thanks for the backup LynchMobster at least you seem to understand.

And again your comment is nothing but ranting for your own musical taste and helps nothing to your cause.
Its not about that everyone hates those bands its because i just don like Hurt that much.
All i can hear from you is blind hype.
Rather then trying to understand that you ranting doesent make me any more of a lover or a hater of Hurt.
You just cant understand that your opinion but in that way that you use isnt worht shit.

[Kyuss_]

hurt are one of my fav bands, vol.1, vol.11, blackmarket ep, the consumation and the re-consumation are all terrific albums, they plain jus kickass, and they whoop pink floyd, sorry guys they realy do lol. everybody has their own opinion and imo HURT are awesum and beat pink floyd hands down.

[SL!!!]

jables23092 wrote:

over the past year Hurt has become one of my most favorite bands...they are absolutely amazing! I don't really understand why people are into hating bands that make music that makes it to the radio either. It has become cool among this community to hate mainstream stuff for no reason...i mean come off it guys, you can like more than one type of music and you dont have to belittle people who can enjoy the most complex or the most simple of songs/artists

It's because in order for music to be on the radio it has to fit certain specifics and since the VAST majority of radiostations are controlled by clearchannel there is little difference in music. It has to be very watered down. And then people only hear of new bands or what's "cool" through radio. If you're content with that capitalist spin on art, that's fine, i guess, but you're just really missing out on so much more.

[darkside0418]

You know what I dont get is the fact that I am not trying to stereo type or be high and mighty but i dont count one way as being open minded....i really think that you just need to review a band critically before you judge them I'm sorry if for some odd reason you think what I'm saying is stupid or judgemental. But I am very into music and it is my passion in life. Being related to Johny Cash and even having music played around you all ur life can have taht effect. but you guys need to back off...becuase even though it may seem like i'm badgering for your opinion (which im not) i'm actually badgering your quick and bad judgement...so dont go beating me down for my point of view...

[darkside0418]

and who are the romantics?

GO CREED BABY!!!!!

[Confetti]

darkside0418 wrote:

You know what I dont get is the fact that I am not trying to stereo type or be high and mighty but i dont count one way as being open minded....i really think that you just need to review a band critically before you judge them I'm sorry if for some odd reason you think what I'm saying is stupid or judgemental. But I am very into music and it is my passion in life. Being related to Johny Cash and even having music played around you all ur life can have taht effect. but you guys need to back off...becuase even though it may seem like i'm badgering for your opinion (which im not) i'm actually badgering your quick and bad judgement...so dont go beating me down for my point of view...

And you are really quick to jugde my opinion to be wounded in a quick impulse. If You read what i have posted i have sayed that i actually lissened the albums.
Yeah that makes you kinda look that you are trying to be high and mighty

[R_U_READY?]

if u dont know this band, LISTEN TO RAPTURE gr8 song

[LedFloyd79]

u cant compare anyone to pink floyd... not saying this band is bad or good but u just cant in my opinion

[cynkobei]

This entire band proves that they are a good band, good musicians create controversy!! (With their music, not their other actions *coughFOBcough*)

[cynkobei]

This entire thread**

my bad...

[Angelicc]

And you are really quick to jugde my opinion to be wounded in a quick impulse. If You read what i have posted i have sayed that i actually lissened the albums.
Yeah that makes you kinda look that you are trying to be high and mighty

Confetti...You can hardly spell and sound like a complete idiot. Go troll around on youtube or wherever else you get off trying to sound smart to random people on the internet. As for Hurt...they are decent.

[malthusiandrill]

Nothing like floyd. How is it bands that are actually similar to old bands never get the credit?

[Confetti]

Angelicc wrote:


And you are really quick to jugde my opinion to be wounded in a quick impulse. If You read what i have posted i have sayed that i actually lissened the albums.
Yeah that makes you kinda look that you are trying to be high and mighty


Confetti...You can hardly spell and sound like a complete idiot. Go troll around on youtube or wherever else you get off trying to sound smart to random people on the internet. As for Hurt...they are decent.

And what makes me sound like an idiot?
That comment just made you sound like an idiot.
Making conversation's doesent make you an idiot, and about my spelling? Are you living such a pitiful live that you go around internet checking peoples spelling?
Idiot.

[ethanw]

uhhh first no one compares to floyd thats impossible.
and second these guys well honestly i dont know who they are but either way i still bet their no floyd. people shouldnt compare bands of now to bands back in the day cause its a different time now

[darkside0418]

Dear CONFETTI just shut your mouth

If you are going to say something, say it correctly or don't say it at all. You try to act smart, but you are just sounding stupid because you judge everything everyone does. So, you ought to quit being a hypocrite and get together what you want to say before you put it on the computer.

[Kibakichi]

Arguing over the internet is just like the special Olympics. Even if you do win, you're still retarded.

It's just a band with spectators with different opinions. Like any other band. Personally, I like the band, BUT. It's just an opinion, not a fact that you can scientifically prove with mathematics and chemical processing.

And the dude never compared their music to Floyd. Other people did. Don't see why people are bagging on them just because some other people said that they sound like Floyd (I wouldn't know, but from what I've heard, they're two very different bands).

Now can we please just stop arguing? This is worse then reading fangirls' comments saying "OMG HE'S SO SEXY" on music videos on Youtube.

[Moses L.]

and to the comment that hurt is pretty sucky name for a band. what the hell is a pink floyd anyway? i mean thats a pretty sucky name i think. - Nole 7

Pink Floyd is actually a band name derived from two other musicians whose names I can't remember now. But, whatever the band name, a group should be judged by its music and not solely what they've named themselves.

[darkside0418]

dude just leave me to my battles.....but yea evrything is an opinion and i wil fight to defend mine just so ya kno but "OMG" ur hilarious....

[Confetti]

darkside0418 wrote:

Dear CONFETTI just shut your mouth

If you are going to say something, say it correctly or don't say it at all. You try to act smart, but you are just sounding stupid because you judge everything everyone does. So, you ought to quit being a hypocrite and get together what you want to say before you put it on the computer.

And please if you can explain just how im being a hypocrite if i say my own opinion against yours?
And just how i am trying to act smart?

If you really have something relevant to say you should say that or say nothing at all.

This conversation has had nothing to do with Hurt.

[darkside0418]

Dear dude,

[darkside0418]

Dear Dude,

First of all your opinion is invalid and everything you say is negative.....and it really doesnt help your point....and yea whenever you say something it either doesnt make sense or it's filled with errors and sounds stupid all together. So how about learning grammar and spelling...
Oh this is relevent because you just keep baggin on me and it really needs to stop....and if you want it to deal with HURT then here we go.
Hurt is freakin' awesome!!!! They are godly and are one the best bands ever. They are perfect live and really delve deep into the emotional realm of the human mind. Their lyrics are very poetic. Everyone can find something in their albums to relate to. Sure their stuff isn't normal or mainstream but it is musically ingenious and purely amazing.

so there ya go...happy? thought so...

[darkside0418]

and i sent you some mail dude....

[darkside0418]

no response in a long time..well it looks like i won this battle of brains...

[ANTI-COLLATERAL]

I have no interest in getting caught up in your childish arguments, but I have to say that HURT's music is extremely beautiful and inspiring to me. It has got me through a lot of things and moves me in a way no other music can. I think that HURT are a band that take some time to sink in, so perhaps those who don't like them should try to be open minded and give this band a chance, but I also realise that people have different taste and this isn't everyone's thing, so saying people who don't like it have bad taste is just silly. It is difficult for me to understand how someone can get the same kind of subtle beauty and intense emotion from something like nickleback, and likewise how someone can not get those things from HURT, but people have different tastes. People like different things. For god's sake, if all the members of all the bands you liked were into the same stuff, their music would be rip offs of that stuff, no? It's the difference in taste that inspires artists to be original and unique and to create something genuinely inspiring, and as such we should respect people's different taste.

[darkside0418]

well thats what i do...clearly....he he eggs.....

[skinneh]

I love hurt!

[webbster87]

love this band they are better than pink floyd! they are what i call a true rock band, because they don't care what they play as long as it sound right and kick ass! FUCK YOU if you say they suck and are lame!

[darkside0418]

right on brothers...

[FargoDog]

darkside0418 wrote:

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA YOu guys make me laugh you know that? i cant believe i used to be one of you closed minded mainstream suckers who determined music by certain things. now That I've changed and realy opened my mind to very diverse music I can truly judge the validity of a band. All you guys do is go and listen to one type of music and try and categorize everything else and if it doesnt fit then you throw it out. Or if it sounds different and you really havent experienced it then you do the same. I want yall to think about that and then tell me I'm a liar (and if you do then you are just avoiding the truth cuz idid the same thing). Hurt is not a weak name becuause it is what they are about, theyy adress the hurt in peoples everday lives and tell everyone that its normal and that they could get through it. It is truly sad that the music community of today is very picky and not opened minded...no wonder its so hard for new awesome bands like these to take off...you guys need them to be megadeth or metallica rendition or repeats but why have the same stuff. Pink floyd did the same thing. they knew that being different would get them noticed and thats what hurt is doing...i bet none of yall would of thought of the things they did..so ya'll really need to lay off and stop beating down their name. and in case you didnt notice i defend my bands (liek hurt, creed, and nickelback) which everyone apparently hates. so dont get me started.

Dude I completly agree. Apart from creed. They really do suck. Badly. AlterBridge is immense tho. But Creed?No. Nooooo.

Wait, we're on about hurt! Hurt rule.

[webbster87]

YO their new album will be out April 7, 2009!! HELL YEAH, ROCK ON HURT!!!

[The_lizard_king]

not pink floyd, not saying their shitty. Just saying they don't sound like the floyd.