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Lostprophets: 'We Just Got Bored With Playing Heavy Music' |
| artist: lostprophets |
date: 12/02/2006 |
category: interviews |
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Wales natives the Lostprophets have ushered in a new era by adding a little more of the pop genre into the mix for their latest release Liberation Transmission – and they are confident it is a musical progression. For a band that has been known to do covers of everyone from Duran Duran to Justin Timberlake, the jump to a more pop-oriented style hasn’t been foreign territory. While reaction from their fans has been mixed to the new sound, Liberation Transmission still debuted at #1 on the UK album charts back in June. Guitarists Mike Lewis and Lee Gaze recently talked to Ultimate Guitar writer Amy Kelly about how the latest record was a result of trying out a new writing methods and essentially becoming bored with playing a heavier style of rock.
UG: Liberation Transmission is a departure from the usual sound of the band. What influenced the change?
Mike: We had been listening to the same kind of thing at that point, usually like Joy Division, The Police, The Jam, The Clash. Old stuff like that. I really changed the way I played the parts. I always was like playing guitar as kind of like a punk tune. I’ve always played the guitar that way. I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music. We had done 2 albums of it and it was just a natural progression, really. It was just kind of the way we went. Our drummer (Mike Chiplin) left also and that kind of changed things. He would play drums when we jammed. That was a little different. It was just like a natural thing for this record.
Lee: I definitely think we’ve progressed. We used to be a lot heavier. I think the heaviness comes in a different way now. It’s heavy in one way, but it’s not in another. Heavy can be a lot of things. I think any band that doesn’t do a lot of things stays the same and grows old quickly.
 | | "It's just the kind of band that we are. We're just kind of always evolving." | What was the reaction from fans to the new record?
Mike: Mixed. Some people were open to the progression. A lot of our fans have been with us since the beginning. Some listen to stuff like Bloc Party and Arctic Monkeys, so they kind of appreciate where we were going with it. Then there were people who loved our first record and that will always be their favorite record, which is understandable. Some people like a certain thing. They don’t like change. Unfortunately, I think that we’ll always be evolving and we’ll always be changing. We’ve done 3 records now, which every record has sounded different than the last. I have no doubt that our next record will probably sound different as well. We realize that it’s just the kind of band that we are. We’re just kind of always evolving.
Lee: Mostly things have been good. The fans that are really fans tend to grow with the band. Then you always have the people who get hooked on a single or whatever. I think generally things are good. These songs go down as well live as the older stuff, which is cool.
The change has seemed to pay off, given that your latest record hit #1 on the UK charts.
Mike: It was pretty cool. We’re not a band that cares about charts and that kind of thing. The scene we come from is kind of punk rock. We don’t care about that stuff like that. With our first album, we couldn’t believe it when we sold like 10,000 records. It’s pretty unbelievable for us.
I understand that Mike was originally the bass player in the band. Is that true?
Mike: Yeah. Ian (Watkins, vocals) and Lee kind of started the band from like an old band that they were in. They had a guy playing bass and they kicked him out. I was like, “I’m a guitar player and I can play bass. Maybe I’ll come down and jam with you guys, help you write some songs.” I was in a band another band at the time. We had all the songs written eventually, so it was just kind of like, “Well, I’ll just stay in the band.” Then we met Stuart (Richardson, bass) and he was a bass player. He joined and then I went back to playing guitar.
Do you feel most comfortable playing the guitar rather than the bass?
Mike: Yeah. I had always wanted to play guitar. I fooled around on the bass or whatever, but I played guitar since I was like 13 or 14. It’s always what I wanted to play. When I was 14, I was into Metallica and Anthrax and Megadeth, and I always wanted to be a guitar player.
Lee, how old were you when you picked up the guitar?
Lee: I think I was about 15 or 16. I started late, really.
 | | "We used to be a lot heavier. I think the heaviness comes in a different way now." | Were a lot of your friends already playing?
Lee: Yeah, there was a bunch of kids in school that played and they were amazing. I always wanted to be a drummer. Unfortunately, I couldn’t fit a drum set in my bedroom at my parents’ house. They ended up getting me a guitar and I was like, “Well, second best thing.” And I pretty much never went back.
There was a bit of a backlash from some fans about the length of time it took to make the last record. Did the band try to speed the process along?
Mike: We just kind of realized it took us a long time to make a record on the last one. We did try to, but with our drummer leaving and stuff, it kind of really set us back. Then we found out that we were gonna work with Bob (Rock, producer). We had to wait for Bob to finish his project he had been working on. But with our next record, we really, really want to be conscious that it’s like, “We’re going to write in a month. We’re gonna record it in a month.” We want to just go in there and write. It’ll be like, “Fuck it. Let’s just go in, write 10, 15 songs. Record those and that’s it.” We want to kind of take it back, strip it back more.
What did Bob Rock bring to the new record?
Lee: He just likes getting us to sound really good and play really well as a band together like any good producer. He definitely has a lot of good ideas of what would sound cool. When you get a producer like that, it’s like an extra member of the band. They have a perspective on everything that you can’t have because you’re way too involved with being in the band. We had to sacrifice a lot of things that we really liked, but it was like, “Well, it’s Bob Rock! He’s got a better track record than us!” He’s really cool to work with.
What kind of advice did Bob offer?
Lee: He’s one of the most brutally honest guys that ever lived. He’s gonna tell you if he doesn’t like it or if it’s shit. It depends on the part. He’s very honest and there’s no bullshit with him, and I think that is cool. We didn’t give him any and he didn’t give us any.
With the change in the band’s sound, have you also changed what equipment you use?
Mike: The guitars, generally, from this record to the last record, they sound a little bit different on the record, but I think that’s just due to the production with what Bob used. I used a Bogner Uberscall and there was some other stuff. The producer has this amazing collection of amps and guitars. He has like old Marshalls and just amazing stuff that sounded awesome. I use PRS guitars, Singlecut. They sound awesome. Bob has an amazing collection of vintage guitars all of that stuff to record with.
Lee: I ended up finding in love with Soldanos. I have one of those that’s like a custom SLO 100. It has like the extra knobs and stuff on it. Then I use a Fender Twin, a Jazzmaster, and a Tele is my third weapon of choice. I have a huge pedalboard, but I’m not using as much of it as I used to. The MXR phaser is probably my number one favorite. There’s just one knob or one button, and it sounds so cool on everything.
Did you find one particular guitar in Bob’s collection that worked well for you?
Mike: He had this 70’s Les Paul. We used that on a lot of the stuff on the album. I think that was the main guitar I used. It sounded amazing.
 | | "I think we're gonna wait to put out a DVD until we can put like live stuff with candid stuff." | There’s an incredible intro on “Town of Hypocrisy.” How did you and Lee work out the parts on that one?
Mike: That’s one of my favorite songs on the record. That song totally changed in the writing process. It started off as almost a Chili Peppers-esqe ballad. We changed it up a little bit. Up until we were mixing the record we were like, “It needs something.” So we got the track, which is eventually the way the song was gonna get mixed. That week it was getting mixed. We sat there and we were fucking around and just came up with that riff. That du-nuh-nuh, du-nuh-nuh. We just kept messing around and came up with a new riff. Then we were like, “That’s awesome!” I was just playing my guitar and came up with a lead line over it. So we just kind of came up with it after we had Indian take-out one night. We laid it down the next morning. I like it because it came together last-minute, right at the end. It’s exciting when you come up with stuff like that.
Do you come up with a lot of your songs like that?
Mike: We’ll change things a lot. But sometimes we’re just like, “Okay, that’s it!” For better or for worse sometimes, right up until the song is mixed it’s like, “Oh, let’s change this vocal. Let’s add this guitar part.” Sometimes it works out for the best, sometimes it doesn’t. But we always mess around with stuff right up to the end.
Lee: It depends on the song. There are some songs that are pretty much pre-written before we get in. Like maybe I’ll have all the guitar parts, lead parts, or vice versa. And we just go from there. If everyone’s happy with it, then we don’t have to change it. But then on the other songs, we maybe just jam it out live. We always play something a little different and only come together on the choruses. If you’re gonna have 2 guitar players, it’s kind of pointless if you both do exactly the same thing.
What made you decide to not include as many interludes on the latest album?
Mike: We kind of felt like we had done it for two albums. We don’t want to do because people expect us to do it again. It was like, “You know what? We’ve done it now. We’ve done it for 2 records.” We kind of just wanted to do a straight album.
Do you feel your live show has changed at all over the years?
Mike: It’s exactly the same, really. We haven’t really changed anything. It’s the way it always has been. Live, the record is going to come across a little bit heavier, a little bit different.
Do you use the same equipment on stage that you do in the studio?
Mike: Pretty much. I think it’s like the guitars come across a little bit heavier live maybe. It just comes across that way. We play the songs a little bit faster live.
 | | "Live, it's exactly the same, really. We haven't changed anything." | Is it true that your new drummer Ilan Rubin is around 17 years old?
Mike: He’s 18 now. He’s just on tour with us. He’s not actually in the band, in the band. He’s an amazing drummer, just phenomenal. We got along with him great, but we have yet to write songs together. You kind have to wait until you try and write songs together to see if it truly fits. When we start writing songs next year we’ll know whether he’s like the guy to be in the band. You know, it’s kind of like you want to date someone for a while before you get married to them kind of thing.
You’ve done a wide assortment of cover songs over the years. How do you all decide on what songs you’ll cover?
Lee: We don’t do covers unless we absolutely have to. And then when we do have to, we’ll kind of get together and decide. We usually tackle the pop side of it like Duran Duran, The Cure, Justin Timberlake. It’s usually something that people wouldn’t expect to played in a rock band.
Do you have a cover that is your favorite to perform?
Mike: I think The Strokes’ one is fun because we didn’t change anything on it. It was kind of like, “Let’s just do a song that’s out right now. Just cover it and do it completely straight.”
Lee: I don’t really enjoy doing them. It’s somebody else’s song. We spend all this time learning that, and I would prefer to be learning our own songs.
Are you planning on making a live DVD in the future?
Mike: We’ve thought about it. I don’t know. I think we’re gonna wait to put out a DVD until we can put like live stuff with candid stuff, a lot of videos and everything. Put it all in one package. It seems a lot of bands these days just put out a DVD because that’s the thing to do. We want to wait. We’ve got a shitload of tapes!
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116 comments posted, 48 removed | this article is 71% spam-free |
Andy_guitarist
: cool interview, i cant wait for the next album, and hopefully they will bring a DVD out!!POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 09:31 am / quote |
WhiteLightning
: yea nice interview, ididnt know ther original drummer left th ough...POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 09:40 am / quote |
turbonegro
: | I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music. |
And thats why they went from good > suckPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 10:04 am / quote |
ordinary_story
: hoping the new record is DIFFERENT from LT and similar 2 SS..he hePOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 10:15 am / quote |
mushroom2
: I just saw these guys live last night and they were ****ing amazing i can't wait for the next album i hope they do something similar to fake sound of progressPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 10:28 am / quote |
guitar_man_guy
: I don't care if their next record sounds like SS or FSoP, aslong as it doesn't sound like LT.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 12:19 pm / quote |
sandroes
: going to see them next week, I can't waitPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 12:32 pm / quote |
xrawrockkillsx
: nice interview... good job clearing things up...POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 12:40 pm / quote |
skindred
: Lostprophets: 'We Just Got Bored With Playing Heavy Music'
so out of all the different types of rock and metal genres out there, you picked emo??POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 12:47 pm / quote |
Bristlehead
: God..... their music wasn't really even heavy before... and now it's just dumb. There's too many interviews and random drama with this band when they aren't good at all. If I hear the standing on the rooftops... roofy rooftop rooftop standing on top of a roof whatever song again I'm going to kill myself.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 12:52 pm / quote |
alliwant
: I like all the stuff they've done so far. I don't care if people say they've sold-out. You should like a band for who they are. Generally I don't like particular bands, just genres so as long as I like the sound of it, I'll buy it. Seeing them in Edinburgh tomorrow, so should be beltin'.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 01:16 pm / quote |
jharv23
: shinobi vs. dragon ninjaPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 02:07 pm / quote |
Millertime85
: Looks like im done caring to hear their new stuff because their heavy stuff is the only stuff i can listen to from themPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 02:17 pm / quote |
evening_crow
: ^^^So...you're saying that we should like a band for who they are, yet you only like genres? WTF?POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 02:18 pm / quote |
Reaperchris13
: turbonegro wrote:
I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music.
And thats why they went from good > suck |
damn right, I wanna go to their concert, just so I can go to two concerts in a row. and beleive me, the first one will be better. Dragonforce, oh yes.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 02:26 pm / quote |
WaveCaster97
: So if they are pop now does that mean they sound exactly the same as they used to? I'm not saying their older stuff was bad if I never liked it I wouldn't have read this article, but to consider it "heavy" is kind of a joke.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 02:58 pm / quote |
lordpaco18
: to everyone who doubts lostprophets needs to listen to Start Something, THAT is their best record, although LT is good tooPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 02:59 pm / quote |
whatamidoinhere
: I didn't like LT...but seein as they're tryin so hard to convince everyone that they changed naturally, rather than sold out...I'll wait to see what the next albums like. If the natural change seems to disappear once they find a style that makes them more money then I guess we'll know for surePOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 03:26 pm / quote |
duncang
: They were never heavy.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 03:35 pm / quote |
Discouraged
: skindred wrote:
Lostprophets: 'We Just Got Bored With Playing Heavy Music'
so out of all the different types of rock and metal genres out there, you picked emo?? |
Thats where the money's at. ^_~POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 04:04 pm / quote |
aebers79
: duncang wrote:
They were never heavy. |
Go listen to The Fake Sound of Progress (the cd), yes, they werePOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 04:07 pm / quote |
Dirtydeeds468
: Sellouts to the highest degree. Basically every album they've made has been catering to the genre that was biggest at the time.
'Progressing' my ass.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 06:03 pm / quote |
sukisuki5dolla
: turbonegro wrote:
I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music.
And thats why they went from good > suck |
couldn't have said it better myself!POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 06:09 pm / quote |
Justice-For-All
: So instead they wanted to sound like a little whiny kid like the rest of the emo bands out there. These guys define Sellout.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 06:21 pm / quote |
blinkguitarist5
: damn im sick of hearing the term "emo." they didn't turn emo. they just got lighter in mood and didn't want to scream or shit like that anymore. i love the lostprophets and i'll always be a fan.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 07:03 pm / quote |
civildp1
: wasn't their a UG news piece a couple of months ago where they were talking smack about the arctic monkeys? Interesting that Lostprophets are now comparing themselves to the arctic monkeys.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 07:05 pm / quote |
pataldo
: turbonegro wrote:
I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music.
And thats why they went from good > suck |
full marksPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 07:09 pm / quote |
Y.D.P.B.C
: civildp1 wrote:
wasn't their a UG news piece a couple of months ago where they were talking smack about the arctic monkeys? Interesting that Lostprophets are now comparing themselves to the arctic monkeys. |
Well, yes and no. They were blasting Artic Monkeys because they feel they didn't earn their success through hard work, i.e years on the touring circuit, etc. But the comparison is in guitar sound, as in: "jangly".
Not that I'm standing up for them, LT was the disappointment of the year for me. Good enough album I suppose, but I just expected more..POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 07:40 pm / quote |
ITSTIMETOROCK
: got bored playing heavy music? pff they weren't heavy. buncha sissies they are.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 08:02 pm / quote |
RockMusicFan
: Wow weird, when I was reading the A Town Called Hypocrisy part, that song came up from my iTunes shuffle. Anyways, I love Lostprophets and love all three of their albums. I just hope the new will be heavier. They still have it in them, considering they recently perfomred We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan in the US.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 08:48 pm / quote |
Rize
: Haha, out of all types of rock, they pick the shittiest of them all. "Emo". Sad. Very sad.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 08:52 pm / quote |
catchy phrase
: | We had to sacrifice a lot of things that we really liked, but it was like, “Well, it’s Bob Rock! He’s got a better track record than us!” |
That is why things started to suck. If you like it, keep it.POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 09:08 pm / quote |
ibanez87
: Wait a minute, THEY played heavy music at one time?POSTED: 12/02/2006 - 09:19 pm / quote |
m
: duncang wrote:
They were never heavy. |
They were a helluva lot heavier than they are now :p
CheckedPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 09:20 pm / quote |
mr.sublime
: yeah, and i have to say their best album was Start Something, even though it wasnt that heavyPOSTED: 12/02/2006 - 09:24 pm / quote |
dertjoe
: [quote]Bristlehead wrote:
God..... their music wasn't really even heavy before
your saying FSOP diddnt have heavy songs, sure it wasnt death metal but alot of the songs had a much heavier soundPOSTED: 12/03/2006 - 12:42 am / quote |
ownedmatt
: Your all idiots The Fake Sound Of Progress the first album. If thats not heavy, nothing is.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 04:09 am / quote |
Reages
: They get a lot of money from this album, and they like it and so they suck, new music is shitty, money is everything now..POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 07:23 am / quote |
Rolo
: wot a load of bullshit..they didn't get bored otherwise the drummer wouldn't have left after he realised the band were becoming poppy, and their second album wasn't album, they're first was (and they're only decent album by the way). You didnt stop playing heavy music because u got bored, you stoppe because you sold out and went all emo-pop rock..you lost a load of fans and gained a load of emotional teens..well done lads lolPOSTED: 12/03/2006 - 07:47 am / quote |
Rolo
: *sorry their second album wasnt heavy is what i meant to say!!!POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 07:48 am / quote |
Scarlatti
: Hmm, i loved LostProphets and i still do... POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 08:43 am / quote |
no1joel
: They definitely put on a heavier spin when they play their new stuff live, but still their old stuff kicks the newer stuff's ass. Except 4 AM forever solo, that's their best guitaring.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 09:40 am / quote |
McCheese
: AAAHHHHH!!! For god's sake! Theyre not friggin emo!!!! At least know what emo is before you start shouting your mouths off and calling every band out there emo!
And I agree with dirtjoe. They never said they were death metal or anything they just said they were heavi-er.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 09:57 am / quote |
edibledevilboy
: It's not that it's poppy that it's bad - pop can be good. it's just the songs on the new album are all shockingly bad. i'll admit that there's the odd really nice part (/\/\/\ the 4am solo indeed) but was a major disapointment - typical that their worst album is the one they get recognized most forPOSTED: 12/03/2006 - 10:03 am / quote |
hiro0911
: god,if they were jst for the money there r so many other kind of genre to go to arent there..dis bands is a real band no doubt.not all bands stick to one kind of music THEY AINT SELLOUTSPOSTED: 12/03/2006 - 10:10 am / quote |
m
: Stop arguing so much. "They're heavy." "No they aren't!" Yes they are!" etc.
You can debate it, but give some reasons to your arguments please.
Checked.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 12:27 pm / quote |
PunkRocka182
: Lostprophets r amazin!! i enjoy there old nd new stuff, depending on what mood im in. i saw them live the utha day in plymouth and they RULED!!!POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 02:01 pm / quote |
Abe
: Well, that explains the sound change.
What about the image change, eh???POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 02:03 pm / quote |
Toms' anominous
: damn their still great you hear em live, just awesome i went with someone who doesn't really like em and she says their better then her fave. their new stuff may have more pop like lyrics but they still play it heavy live.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 02:15 pm / quote |
gegeeag
: I loved LT, but i also hope the new album will be more FSOP/SS ish. I Couldn't care less what they look like...they changed their style a bit, so what, everyone does, ever think he maybe just likes having long hair? As for this selling out crap, i hate that phrase, they've been playing Top Of The Pops since FSOP ffs. As long as they keep playing music i love, i'm happy, and i'll listen to it regardless of what they look like. There's so many dickheads about these days that jump on the bandwagon and call everone a sell-out so they look cool...and i bet 99% of them secretly couldn't give two shits, they probably listen to Greenday.
lostprophets rock.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 02:38 pm / quote |
Drowning!Waving
: hey people get a grip...the music business is about making money not making sure that *you* still like it. They spent big money getting bob rock onboard and he delivered. No 1 in the UK means everyone get paid. That's what really matters my friends not if they are "heavy" or "emo" or whatever.
What sells is whats good. Get over it, and welcome to the machine...POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 03:54 pm / quote |
Felkara
: Felkara wrote:
Reaperchris13 wrote:
turbonegro wrote:
I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music.
When are you seeing DF? The 13th of December?
And thats why they went from good > suck
damn right, I wanna go to their concert, just so I can go to two concerts in a row. and beleive me, the first one will be better. Dragonforce, oh yes. |
Sorry, the code went screwey with me, I'd appreciate it if a Mod deleted my previous post.
I like Lostprophets, even if Watkins seems like an arsehole - I'll listen to all of their music nonetheless. I have to say though, Everyday Combat is a fun song to play!!
But yeah, their early stuff was completely better and I'd say better. LT is more userfriendly but I'm not one to care about genres so I don't care about their change in style. I have to say, Lee and Mike seem like really nice guys. I envy my drummer, he's seeing them this Saturday in London.POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 04:54 pm / quote |
m
: I deleted it for you POSTED: 12/03/2006 - 05:28 pm / quote |
matth05
: I saw these live last night, amazing. Apparenetly they were in ASDA (The UK's WalMart) before hand. How amazing is that? lolPOSTED: 12/03/2006 - 05:57 pm / quote |
METSOAD
: well their "boring-heavy-music" is by far their best work, Songs like Shinobi Vs Draginninja Wake Up and We Are Godzilla You Are Japan really are much better than the annoyingly catchy songs like Rooftops and Can't Catch TommorowPOSTED: 12/04/2006 - 03:01 am / quote |
Shredder XXX
: Yeah, it's a fair arguement that it seems like they're "selling out". But for christs sake guys, these fellas are not emo. Dude it's just simply modern rock it changes, deal with it! And if ya don't wanna, don't listen to it, no one's forcing you to. I've listened to all of these dudes' records and all I can see is a natural progression, and you'll find that the next record will be yet another step up for them.POSTED: 12/04/2006 - 08:29 am / quote |
Chiefwiddler
: Looks like the Kerrang-driven scene is on to another swing...this time away from Emo and on to pop music! It always fascinates me how Kerrang is supposed to be about heavy music, but they always manage to avoid it!POSTED: 12/04/2006 - 11:31 am / quote |
Scarlatti
: Hmmm, I loved lostprophets, And I still love lostprophets 
Just a new style doesnt need to mean it's bad 8o|POSTED: 12/04/2006 - 12:05 pm / quote |
danos1204
: Well I guess all I have to say is I agree with the people that say they are selling out. Now I hate the term selling-out BUT in this case it seems obvious to me: if one likes to play a certain genre of music and works they ass off to get signed to a record label and put out albums and all that, how the hell do you get bored somewhere along the line? Obviously you would have a strong passion for the music you make and I think in this situation like others have pointed out, they wanted more money so now they changed music styles. I don't think they just got bored. When I play my guitar and get bored I stop playing, I don't start learning ****ing NSYNC songs (I'm not saying that they did learn those songs I'm just trying to prove a point)POSTED: 12/04/2006 - 12:36 pm / quote |
sharpshooters
: u guys rock! all ur albums rock . keep up the gd work skippersPOSTED: 12/04/2006 - 02:56 pm / quote |
m
: Checked.POSTED: 12/04/2006 - 03:42 pm / quote |
Physh
: everyone seems to forget that making music is their job, the way they make a living. if you had a chance to increase your income, while still doing what you love, it would be dumb to not take it.
the band will change, whether you like it or not. i thought their first two albums were better, but i still give them props for making another solid album. debuting #1 in the UK isn't too shabby. POSTED: 12/04/2006 - 08:51 pm / quote |
ShaDoW0lf
: There's nothing more to say. They want people to like them, and they don't believe that their roots have a large enough fan base (or pump enough cash out) to hold them up. I disagree with Physh tho. The whole problem is this "make money > playing what you like" mindset. LostProphets have lost faith in their old fans, because the money isn't rolling in like other bands and THEIR fanbases, so they are trying to cash in on the other fanbases which pay better, draw better crowds and boost their egos. I wonder if they really DO like playing emo music.. I bet they don't, whether they admit it or not.POSTED: 12/05/2006 - 04:00 am / quote |
Reages
: still, they could play songs like Our Broken Hearts and that Push Out The Jive thingy (not this shitty emo stile or whatever), those songs are really fantastic and i just don't have a ****in idea how to play them.POSTED: 12/05/2006 - 08:18 am / quote |
Reages
: btw, METSOAD you have the point POSTED: 12/05/2006 - 08:19 am / quote |
sam4
: I think there new album was really good(apart from rooftops) and im really into all genders of rock music and i think lostprophets becoming more indie is a good thingPOSTED: 12/05/2006 - 11:19 am / quote |
Tortiss
: jharv23 wrote:
shinobi vs. dragon ninja |
amenPOSTED: 12/05/2006 - 07:49 pm / quote |
CrossBack7
: Jesus kids maybe they really did get sick of heavy the whole time. . .Cut 'em some slack. Those who don't adapt die, so get the hell over it.POSTED: 12/05/2006 - 08:02 pm / quote |
TheJim
: Ok first off watch the use of the genre term 'Emo', i dont remember hearing one lyric about them slitting thier rists, neither are they constantly screaming
Second, im a huge LP fan and although i love FSOP... LT was still an anamzing, and with the solo in 'Everyday Combat' solo being worth of Slash as well as '4:AM forever' i would not call them a failure, they said they want to go back to their roots in a recent interview, e.g 'Fake Sound Of Progress'
Now think how hard it was for LP, they hadnt released an album in a long time and to keep with the 'evolution' of the music scene they needed something new, and they got #1 in the charts, sorry with FSOP and SS never got that, plus they broke America on tour.
I seen them live this year in July and they where nothing short of phenominal, im also seeing them next year in April. Now stop slating the band and get a life ppl. Lostprophets 'still swing the old way' POSTED: 12/05/2006 - 08:20 pm / quote |
Ex'sAndOh's
: Tortiss wrote:
jharv23 wrote:
shinobi vs. dragon ninja
amen |
indeedPOSTED: 12/06/2006 - 05:11 am / quote |
HellRazer
: First off i've got SS and LT and i just recently bought their albums. Start Something was great but Liberation Transmission is pathetic as the new ECW.Ok the singles Rooftops and Town Called Hypocrisy are good but apart from them and about 3 other songs, LT is nowt but f*cking emo trash. Pathetic. And to Shredder and anybody else that doesn't think it's emo, listen to songs Gotta Date with Hate, Everybody's Screaming, 4am Forever and that Broken Hearts, torn up letters crap just to name a few. They may be catchy but they are embarrassing to listen to because they are such self pitying,whiny b0llocks. Im not a fan of pop (not the new sh1t anyway) but i'd rather listen to mushy love songs from Celine Dion or Britney than this crap. I was actually thinkin about buying FSOP but after this shambles i think i'd rather turn me back on themPOSTED: 12/06/2006 - 05:55 am / quote |
HellRazer
: And anyway LP stands for Linkin Park, not Lostprophets.Lostprophets are 1 word, so 1 initial. Pointless maybe, but correctPOSTED: 12/06/2006 - 05:57 am / quote |
Formalities555
: I think they are all right...I can't see how the Police, the Jam, etc. influenced their albums though....POSTED: 12/06/2006 - 11:44 am / quote |
Sorceres_Knight
: LT was not the sound i was expecting even being a fan of this band(i wanted something like fake sound of progress), but i admit i really like this album.
I don't know why but i like the mix of sounds they did.
This is the 3 album, they are growing as a band and i think they are trying to get their on style and they are on it, i can´t wait for their new album, after all i'am a lostprophets' fan 
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m
: checked!POSTED: 12/06/2006 - 11:24 pm / quote |
CrossBack7
: Easy. . .Play the same stuff for years and it gets old even if you love it. People hate their jobs after 20 years so it's the same concept. . .gotta switch it up to stay interested.POSTED: 12/07/2006 - 04:10 pm / quote |
HellRazer
: How can half you people call yourself fans of lostprophets. True fans will stick by them, no matter what they decide to do. You cant be a fan if you like them, then hear there new stuff which they seem to like playing, then they just instantly suck.
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So for instance if Slipknot and Metallica changed from heavy metal to goddamn emo, u wud still like them?( I don't think u would. POSTED: 12/08/2006 - 05:08 am / quote |
br4vw
: Mike and Lee seem alright but from other reviews ive read the singer is an arrogant cock head - I dont particularly like the big jump they have taken from their old stuff to this - and the new image they are trying to portray has them looking like the millions of other bands out there - hmmm "Market youth the uniform, make us all fit in" well it seems the market has them in a tight fitting uniform...POSTED: 12/08/2006 - 06:19 am / quote |
br4vw
: having said that the new album still 'sounds alright'POSTED: 12/08/2006 - 06:22 am / quote |
nissan_gtr409
: Anyway people to sum this all up, they are not EMO, and are not SELL-OUTS, i agree with most that fsop/ss was better than their latest album, but like hellrazer sed if u are a fan, u'll just get over it an wait for their next album, if not then F**k off u shudnt be writing comments, and the latest album isnt that bad i just think we expected too much of them, wanting them to release a harder rock album maybe?, i see this as a dfferent progression whether they did it for money or wateva, they kno wats good, theres nothing wron with targeting other fan bases, aslong as u stay tru to ur original fans, so they havent done too bad..looking forward to the next albumPOSTED: 12/09/2006 - 12:24 am / quote |
rustic_metal
: RhysxCore wrote:
How can half you people call yourself fans of lostprophets. True fans will stick by them, no matter what they decide to do. You cant be a fan if you like them, then hear there new stuff which they seem to like playing, then they just instantly suck.
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theyre a band. not a football team.POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 12:58 am / quote |
AEnemia
: HellRazer wrote:
How can half you people call yourself fans of lostprophets. True fans will stick by them, no matter what they decide to do. You cant be a fan if you like them, then hear there new stuff which they seem to like playing, then they just instantly suck.
So for instance if Slipknot and Metallica changed from heavy metal to goddamn emo, u wud still like them?( I don't think u would. |
You're saying that like it didn't happen. :P (Okay, they didn't necesarilly turn emo, but they both went down the shitter. Then again, Slipknot was kind of in the shitter from the start...)POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 01:27 pm / quote |
the_random_hero
: Well, looks like Bob Rock has ruined another of my more-liked bands POSTED: 12/09/2006 - 05:41 pm / quote |
m
: CHecked.POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 03:43 am / quote |
HurricaneSG
: LP is still awesome and LT is a decent album.. SS and FSOSP are good too though.. Lt is just a bit differentPOSTED: 12/10/2006 - 11:14 am / quote |
Alex The Red
: That's really lame. Why don't bands learn that POP isn't a worthy genre of music. Instead it would of been better to have gone prog. POSTED: 12/10/2006 - 06:13 pm / quote |
Sorceres_Knight
: Well, looks like Bob Rock has ruined another of my more-liked bands
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you are right, it's all his fault, make him bleed XDPOSTED: 12/11/2006 - 12:10 pm / quote |
IceRock
: turbonegro wrote:
I think the band just got bored with playing heavy music.
And thats why they went from good > suck | L loved there music but it is geting boringPOSTED: 12/11/2006 - 04:19 pm / quote |
Reages
: rustic_metal wrote:
RhysxCore wrote:
How can half you people call yourself fans of lostprophets. True fans will stick by them, no matter what they decide to do. You cant be a fan if you like them, then hear there new stuff which they seem to like playing, then they just instantly suck.
theyre a band. not a football team. |
Rofl DDD I agreee they are band and i like their music not their guitars or drums or smth else POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 05:48 am / quote |
m
: checked alright okay?POSTED: 12/12/2006 - 09:06 pm / quote |
Jeff Manthei
: ...they werent really that heavy. (this is comming from a death metal guitarist.)POSTED: 12/13/2006 - 01:57 pm / quote |
Muppet
: LOL! "His name is Bob Rock so he must be better than us, therefore we do what he says." Lame.POSTED: 12/13/2006 - 04:24 pm / quote |
AngryGuitarist
: When were they EVER considered HEAVY? i liked there last cd and i'll admit that, but for heavy stuff i would think of sepultura and Death...POSTED: 12/13/2006 - 09:53 pm / quote |
samirpai
: you know those bands that when they first come out, they have something fresh and original, but then they just kind of give up and come out with new albums that are "evolved" and no one really gives a shit but instead argue about it in online forums, so the bands are eventually forgotten? yeah...POSTED: 12/14/2006 - 12:01 am / quote |
Reages
: listen to My handsome life of swing or We are godzila you are japan, or A thousand apologies, OR Star something, even Kobrakai is pretty heavy song...POSTED: 12/14/2006 - 04:24 pm / quote |
chocl
: Rolo wrote:
wot a load of bullshit..they didn't get bored otherwise the drummer wouldn't have left after he realised the band were becoming poppy, and their second album wasn't album, they're first was (and they're only decent album by the way). |
Wrong. The drummer, Mike Chiplin, left because the band was taking up all his time and keeping him away from his wife and children.
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guitarist41
: gmikey222 wrote:
when did they ever play heavy music to begin with? |
cos they liked itPOSTED: 12/16/2006 - 02:14 pm / quote |
wayne barber
: THEY AREN'T EMO!!! They just didn't want to shout out at every ****er they see!!
LP are ace and all ways will be!!!POSTED: 12/16/2006 - 05:04 pm / quote |
Dracharon
: all you guys that say lostprophets have gone crap, **** you! they are brilliant! i have been with lp ever since i was young, and i will always support them! i loved SS and FSoP, but LT is absolutely ****ing awesome too! i think lostprophets are brave for going again the crowd, not caring wat anybody thinks! they want 2 do something different, thats for them 2 decide. not us! we either support them or we dont, but dont say they suck becuase THEY made the descision 2 change! LostProphets Forever!POSTED: 12/16/2006 - 06:13 pm / quote |
Reages
: Dracharon wrote:
all you guys that say lostprophets have gone crap, **** you! they are brilliant! i have been with lp ever since i was young, and i will always support them! i loved SS and FSoP, but LT is absolutely ****ing awesome too! i think lostprophets are brave for going again the crowd, not caring wat anybody thinks! they want 2 do something different, thats for them 2 decide. not us! we either support them or we dont, but dont say they suck becuase THEY made the descision 2 change! LostProphets Forever! |
But their new music is shitty. compare for example Hello Again and Everybodys screaming. LOL. everybodys screaming like eurovision song, poor lyrics and music. ...no words..POSTED: 12/17/2006 - 05:17 am / quote |
m
: Checked.POSTED: 12/17/2006 - 05:20 pm / quote |
subsonic7
: It totally depends how you look at it. If it was only the bands musical direction which changed i'd say fair enough, every band has the right to evolve and experiment. But when a band totally changes their image, hair styles, clothes, instruments etc, i'd say that was selling out & changing to be popular according to what's in fashion. I think they're playing a dangerous game because they don't do 'emo' as well as MCR and they can't do indie at all. Personally i think they're a great band but i think they're faking it lately and they're losing fans and respect.POSTED: 12/18/2006 - 06:34 am / quote |
set.me-free
: they never played heavy music u shit headPOSTED: 12/18/2006 - 10:54 am / quote |
Reages
: set.me-free they played heavy music before, listen to the songs which i have mentioned above. And i agree they are losing fans and especially respect :|POSTED: 12/19/2006 - 07:32 am / quote |
FEDS-91
: Ugh. LT did nothing for me. I really didn't like much of the singing on FSOP, SS I thoroughly enjoyed. Unless they steer back that direction, they're lost on me.POSTED: 12/21/2006 - 10:08 pm / quote |
the00rocker
: ...i thought they were pop...
jeeze they suck... POSTED: 12/30/2006 - 05:43 pm / quote |
WARLOCK81789
: they got bored huh?.... well i liked them before they came out with L.T because it just felt a little more real not to mention their original drummer was much better their old look and old music i had more respect for and they look a bit fruity nowPOSTED: 01/06/2007 - 09:24 am / quote |
Shabalaba
: WARLOCK81789 :
they got bored huh?.... well i liked them before they came out with L.T because it just felt a little more real not to mention their original drummer was much better their old look and old music i had more respect for and they look a bit fruity now |
I do agree with the look thing bacause they used to look reely kwl but now they do look a bit gay, but cant't catch tomorrow is goodPOSTED: 01/13/2007 - 03:05 pm / quote |
Vintage_Axe
: so many of you are saying they went into the genre for the money. they didn't at all. In a Kerrang article recently LP were interviewed about how they must be millionaries with LT, and they replied they only have just about the money they need to survive and get them through..... and also their pop, not emo.... and start something and FsoP was extremely heavy POSTED: 05/29/2007 - 01:22 pm / quote |
XVentura
: Bands should be liked/disliked for their music. That's where the buck stops. For me, LT is shit is musically. I don't care how they dress, whether they're gay, whether they say they're pop or whatever. The only thing that concerns me is what they sound like and what music they produce. SS was really good, my favourite album of that year, but LT is just a pile of shit. Anyway, just wanted to get in the fact that bands should be liked for their music, not anything else.POSTED: 06/05/2007 - 06:41 pm / quote |
macca1551
: jesus christ, there an amazing band, its possible to like all 3 albums. there new album aint emo and to be honest not all of start something and fake sound of progress were heavy, and stop disliking them for there genre.....genres r bullshit! listen to the music like it or hate it stop whining! they rock!POSTED: 07/29/2007 - 08:42 pm / quote |
dant-33
: lostprophets are amazing
the change was great... they still play their old stuff live anyway... take reading last year for eg.. closing with shinobi... they are great!POSTED: 02/16/2008 - 09:11 pm / quote |
-tempest-
: yMcCheese wrote:
AAAHHHHH!!! For god's sake! Theyre not friggin emo!!!! At least know what emo is before you start shouting your mouths off and calling every band out there emo!
And I agree with dirtjoe. They never said they were death metal or anything they just said they were heavi-er. | POSTED: 04/08/2009 - 06:56 am / quote |
-tempest-
: ^didn't. mean to post that, sorryPOSTED: 04/08/2009 - 06:57 am / quote |
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