Pete Wentz: 'People Want To See Videos That Are Still Exciting'

It’s no secret that music videos have been put on MTV’s endangered list over the past decade. If you were able to experience the music channel’s heyday in the 1980s and early 1990s, then the fact that shows like “The Hills” and “My Super Sweet 16” are the main attraction likely leaves a foul taste in your mouth. If you’re hanging on to the hope that MTV might return to its golden days, Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz might just be able to help.

As someone who grew up watching legendary videos like Michael Jackson’s “Thriller,” Wentz (like many of us) wanted to see that kind of creativity back on the small screen. After brainstorming with MTV, he developed FNMTV Premieres (Fridays, 8 pm ET/PT), a new show that is dedicated to both music videos and live performances. To ensure that it’s keeping with the times, a big chunk of the show is dedicated to audience feedback, whether that means simply rating videos or actually uploading your own taped response. Wentz told Ultimate-Guitar that there were a few kinks that needed to be worked out after the June 13 debut show, but he hopes that FNMTV Premieres will finally give artists and record labels a reason to put time, money, and creativity back into music videos.

UG: It’s admirable that you’re attempting to revive interest in music videos with your new show FNMTV Premieres. Was the show your idea?

Pete: It’s not a particularly original idea, videos on TV. I think that’s been an idea that a lot of people have had and a lot of people that watch MTV have had. I guess I pushed for it really hard, but at the end of the day it was up to MTV to kind of decide if they were going to back it and go full force with it. They could have buried it and put it on the backburner. They didn’t have to put it on Friday nights, and the set is gigantic. They didn’t have to do all that, so I have to give credit where credit is due. Pretty much everyone – individually and collectively at MTV – is really shooting for this show. They’re really trying to do everything they can to make it work, so I have to give credit to them.

You had the premiere back on June 13 and it looked like the crowd was very much into it. Was it pretty much what you expected?

I didn’t know what to expect. I got pretty nervous, I guess. The crowd was a lot crazier than I expected! They go nuts! It’s like being at a concert. Getting people to quiet down and not yell is impossible. We’d have to be in a studio, and people are excited to see these performances and these videos. To try to tell people to be quiet or go over here, it’s impossible to do. It’s like lighting a fuse and trying to put it out. That was crazier than I expected.

A major part of the show is audience participation. Did that run smoothly the first time around?

It was my idea to have some type of feedback and have people rate the videos. That raises the bar. So if they’re going to bring their video to the show, they’ll bring the best video they possibly can. I think it goes along with any number of things, like people texting. That’s the nature of culture, having this instant gratification in this text message democracy.

The interesting thing is – and this is completely honest – I expected in the room that people text messaging would really make it a positive-type of feedback just because we had the star there and it was in the heat of the moment. Last week people didn’t really necessarily understand the criteria completely. There was a big mix of responses. There were okay, medium, bad and good responses on top of that.

This week we kind of described the criteria better and we had it online before they were able to submit their videos. So this time, of 400 people, 300 people voted and really voted based on how the video was. I think each week that will probably get better. On July 4, we go live and people all across the country will be able to vote. We’re not going to make or break anybody. For the most part, they’re already known or have been making cool videos before. So I think that it won’t be like that. At the same time, I think people on a video show want to see cool videos. If you put up a video next to “Smells Like Teen Spirit” or “Thriller,” people want to see videos that are still exciting.

"Getting people to quiet down and not yell is impossible."

There hasn’t been a whole lot of reason for artists to put much effort into actually making videos with MTV playing less and less of them. If FNMTV goes over well, do you think that we’ll see bands raising the bar in terms of the creativity in music videos?

I really hope so. I think even more so it’s for the people at labels. They’re like, “Well, it doesn’t matter what kind of video we put out. It’s just going to premiere on this website or whatever, or it will get played in the late-night hours on MTV2 or something.” More than that, I think people still have big ideas. You can do really cool things with not a whole lot of money. As an example, the Vampire Weekend video was shot just on one camera shot that was continuous for the whole video. It was kind of like Wes Anderson and I don’t think it was all that expensive. It’s inspiration for the bands and director as well.

Can you recall some of the first videos that had a big effect on you in your early years?

Yeah. The whole “November Rain” series with Guns N’ Roses. Obviously, “Smells Like Teen Spirit.” Jay-Z’s “Big Pimpin’,” that was a great video. I think the early White Stripes’ videos were really interesting, really great. Michael Jackson put out great videos all the way from “Thriller” to “Leave Me Alone,” when he called out everything that everybody was saying about him. I think that blink-182 had a lot of great videos. The video for Green Day’s “Basket Case” was great. There’s been a ton of iconic videos in the last 20 years. Everybody points out a-ha – that was a great video!

What were some of the bands or musicians that inspired you to pick up the bass by their music alone?

Probably Duff from Guns N’ Roses. I think I was interested in the bass because my friend was already playing the guitar. Green Day and bands like that, I guess. Originally growing up, I was first into them. Then I got into Jimmy Buffett and Michael Jackson, Guns N’ Roses and Metallica. There was death metal like Deicide, Cannibal Corpse, and bands like that.

Did you ever see yourself eventually playing in a band like Deicide?

Yeah, I was in a bunch of bands that were kind of bad versions of them! I guess we were pretty good, though!

I saw that in April of 2007 you released the Signature Squier Precision Bass.

Yeah! I gave one to Lil Wayne last week on the show. He’s been playing a lot of guitar lately, so I decided to give him one.

What was it about the Squier that delivered the specific sound you needed for Fall Out Boy?

I was really into the JP-90, which was cool. I like it because it was really light and the neck was really fat. The only thing different about it was the wiring. I didn’t really like the pickups, so I switched out the pickups and put in the Seymour Duncan ones. The thing about the Squier is that it sounds great. I’ve played it on our records and on a couple songs now.

A lot of times people have to put a price tag on sound. I think that the great thing is that if you can get a good sound and it can be a bass where people can grow into, it’s an important thing. The thing I want to do is inspire younger people who are like, “Maybe I should try this out.” I was interested in Mark Hoppus’ bass growing up.

Sometimes people will switch their guitar or switch their amp, and then they use a process that’s kind of impossible to figure out. They use very specific creative ingredients to get their sound, and we didn’t try to do that. We wanted to give people the key to the castle to be able to kind of do it.

"We're not going to make or break anybody."

Do you tend to tweak things in the setup a little bit for each song to create a different sound?

It’s pretty consistent. I like a metallic, overdriven bass that is kind of heavy. So on Take This To Your Grave and From Under The Cork Tree, there is a pretty specific sound with the guitars for the most part. This was a little more rhythmic and played with the bass drum. It was more with the rhythm section now. We’ll change the distortion or the sound of the song in general. There will be times when there will be fingerpicked ones. For the most part it’s a pick and a heavier sound. On the songs that are more acoustic-sounding, there are times when I played with felt picks. I actually had the ones that Tom Petty’s bass player used, and it gives it a different sound. On the bass itself, there is only one knob for the volume and it’s always turned up.

You’re probably quite busy with FNMTV Premieres, but is Fall Out Boy currently at work on a new album?

Yeah. At the end of the day, Fall Out Boy is the most important aspect of my life and career. I realize that the only reason anybody gives me any attention for anything else is because of Fall Out Boy. That’s the thing that is most precious to me and that’s the thing that will always top everything else. If it’s a TV show or a magazine or whatever, Fall Out Boy is the most important part of that.

I keep reading in interviews that there will be a folk element to the new record. Is that true?

I don’t know really where that came from, if it was more of a lyrical element to the record. I don’t know. I feel like anytime before your record comes out, if you say anything it becomes the thing that is saturated everywhere. So I think someone at some point said, “Oh, there’s going to be a folk element.” It’s going to still be a Fall Out Boy record. It will be different, but it won’t be that different.

Interview by Amy Kelly
Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2008

Comments

[Pingis_Or_Death]

It’s going to still be a Fall Out Boy record. It will be different, but it won’t be that different.

Well of course, they still want to sell millions of records don't they? And I don't think they'll be doing that if they put out a folk record. That's why they're going to stay to their radio-friendly pop-punk roots for ever.

[zerodeck]

Did you ever see yourself eventually playing in a band like Deicide?

Yeah, I was in a bunch of bands that were kind of bad versions of them! I guess we were pretty good, though!

this is a joke right?
I actually got a little respect for him and the whole FNMTV thing, but this can't be true...

[Regression]

zerodeck wrote:

Did you ever see yourself eventually playing in a band like Deicide?

Yeah, I was in a bunch of bands that were kind of bad versions of them! I guess we were pretty good, though!


this is a joke right?
I actually got a little respect for him and the whole FNMTV thing, but this can't be true...

He did play in some heavy-ish bands before Fall Out Boy. Off the top of my head, he did vocals for Arma Angelus, and the Rise Against frontman guy was in the band to I think.

[Muse=Rock]

themightygooch wrote:

How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.

+1

[TTwoo]

I gave up on MTV a long time ago.

[musefanatic]

themightygooch wrote:

How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.

He inspired me to play bass so I could be shitloads better than him...

[Fi-Fi]

Muse=Rock wrote:

themightygooch wrote:

How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


+1

+2

[Noverion]

Wow, interesting to see that he used to do some death metal!
I dont really like the guy, but people take the whole thing way too damn far, hes just a musician trying to make money right? Trying to make a living

[Retro Rocker]

If I want to watch a video that's exciting I'll sit down with some Star Wars.

[jimmyhotpants]

why won't they just give up??

[adslam3]

i gave up on mtv a loooong time ago, but if he got them to actually play music and instead of bad reality tv, then he might gain a few possible respect points

[Era_ForThe_Deaf]

I did catch part of that FNMTV thing when it aired (only because it was something to watch in HD) and while i have a tiny bit of respect for him because of it, don't be expecting any really good music on there, just the same stuff that's on the radio. And I love how he says "FOB is the most important thing in my life" although he just got married and has a kid on the way.

Checked!

[AwesomeDrummer]

meh. just leave it.

[RenegadeDave]

I want to watch music videos that don't feature the "music" of Fall Out Boy.

[samerika]

nah the FNMTV is still a good idea i think.

[FunkasPuck]

tl:dr, but no pete, people want to hear MUSIC that is still exciting. barring 14 year old girls, most actual MUSIC fans couldnt give an ha'penny jizz about the ****ing videos...

[the1]

I don't see why people shit on him and FOB so much. There really are worse bands out there... The thing is a good idea.

[ethan is hot]

MTV is a piece of shit i cant remember the list time i saw a music video and not a shitty as "reality" show. the only show they ever put on there that was good was jackass other than that MTV sucks

[Bellz06!]

to be honest i wanna see videos that have something to do with the music and the song.. it dont make sense to me if someone has like a hate song and they are sat snogging someone all the way through it or something.

[Bellz06!]

ethan is hot wrote:

MTV is a piece of shit i cant remember the list time i saw a music video and not a shitty as "reality" show. the only show they ever put on there that was good was jackass other than that MTV sucks

+1

[Cheesepuff]

Pete's in it for the money and fame, and he's doing a damn good job of it while making some catchy tunes at the same time. You gotta respect that.

[metal4ever6328]

Im sick of seeing this guys face...EVERYWERE!!!

[__Ronnie__]

I HATE Pete Wentz, but I have to give him credit for this. Now, I just hope they don't play shit music videos.

[JRowe3388]

Say what you want about FOB, but I'll give this to them. Their music videos are pretty entertaining.

[JordantheAxe]

People go to far with their hate for him. I have respect for them but I don't like their music. They're good for what they are: a pop punk band.

[jammyninja]

I can't see how levelheaded people who read this interview can slag Pete off. He wants to give kids a decent sounding bass without having to go through some trial of fire amp tweaking and setting up, and whether he achieves it or not at least he has good intentions.

[Xeus]

I think im gonna speak for a lot of people on UG that i dont particularly like the music of Fall Out Boy but i think hes doing a good thing here. Even if MTV does die at least hes trying to get bands out there

[God'sFlesh]

Sure this might make more music on MTV but there will still only be gay mainstream shit like Fall Out Boy on the channel.

[GeekInThePink]

*facepalm*

[trencher]

they're making tons of money. i just wish that they use that moolah to improve.

[TheZookeeper]

Too many people on UG talk out of their arses.

Why are they asking how he can inspire anyone to pick up a bass 'when he can barely play the damn instrument'?
Two words... Kurt Cobain.

Again!

[stradivari310]

GeekInThePink wrote:

*facepalm*

I got a warning last time I did that on a FOB article.. just so you know XD

On a more constructive note, I think Pete has finally had a good idea for once in his life. Maybe he actually does deserve more respect..
But seriously, FOB is one of the better pop-punk bands around, especially since they bend their genre just enough to stay interesting. And almost all of their videos are creative and entertaining.

[Neon D-von]

^ Lolz good point...He gained some respect from me after reading the interview, I'll say that... Somebody mentioned Timmy C. and Flea earlier, those are like my two favorite bassists but they aren't punk (admittedly thought I think Pete is a fairly crap bassist). If this dude can put out a decent instrument to get people started though, more power to him...and if he could stop wearing make-up, that'd be great too...

[Powerpro]

It's sad that the first and only term that comes to mind when MtV is ever mentioned is PATHETIC.

[mikko_9119]

I hope this MTV thing works out...

At the end of the day, Fall Out Boy is the most important aspect of my life

Wait... isn't he married?

[slayer_rule_\m/]

was mtv actually good before i was born or during my childhood when i didnt know what mtv was?

[VintageZen]

mikko_9119 wrote:

I hope this MTV thing works out...
At the end of the day, Fall Out Boy is the most important aspect of my lifeWait... isn't he married?

yeah to pathetic Ashlee Simpson

[mikko_9119]

slayer_rule_\m/ wrote:

was mtv actually good before i was born or during my childhood when i didnt know what mtv was?

it was very good... had great music. Now it's just alot of pop and rap. There are still some good gems or whatever on there... but nowhere nears as good as it was back in the day.

[tomathy]

themightygooch wrote:



How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.

dont forget les claypool

or victor wooten

[rattlehead924]

Regression wrote:

He did play in some heavy-ish bands before Fall Out Boy. Off the top of my head, he did vocals for Arma Angelus, and the Rise Against frontman guy was in the band to I think.

yah Tim played bass for them, Pete did some screaming in Fall Out BOy's old material

[whiteraven119]

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.

[weemansyndrome]

stradivari310 wrote:

GeekInThePink wrote:

*facepalm*
I got a warning last time I did that on a FOB article.. just so you know XD

On a more constructive note, I think Pete has finally had a good idea for once in his life. Maybe he actually does deserve more respect..
But seriously, FOB is one of the better pop-punk bands around, especially since they bend their genre just enough to stay interesting. And almost all of their videos are creative and entertaining.

+ pi

[ShaDoW0lf]

Whenever someone tries to do something good, shitty bassist or not, I give them a clean slate. Simple as that. Of course, this excludes anything extreme like killing people, but yeah, Wentz, if you can turn MTV around, I'll grant you a little respect. As for those reality shows, whoever brought those in needs to be forced to watch them... again, and again...

[Mojo89]

any one who wants to be on mtv is a turd! sell out coproarte cock suckers- not muscians go on mtv come on now! very few bands that show up on mtv are worth a shit

[severed-metal]

So far he's done the same videos. It's either about a girl, or about a dream. That has original written all over it.

[Sylvanus]

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.

That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special musically though.

[Craigadams93]

Sylvanus wrote:

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.


That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special musically though.

...ok we don't hate Pete Wentz as a person... his bass lines are like beginner

[whitenoise1313]

tomathy wrote:

themightygooch wrote:



How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


dont forget les claypool

or victor wooten

Don't forget John Myung either. Dave Ellefson or Cliff Burton should also be mentioned

[mikko_9119]

Yeah, Pete isn't a great lyricist or a bass player from what we've heard, but you never know. Eventually, they might actually surprise alot of people... he may know more than people give him credit for...

[whiteraven119]

[quote=Craigadams93]
...ok we don't hate Pete Wentz as a person... his bass lines are like beginner[/quote]They're pop-punk. I don't really expect the bass lines to be anything terribly great.

I probably messed up the quote tags there... here's hoping I didn't.

[thefoldarsoldar]

Yeah! I gave one to Lil Wayne last week on the show. He’s been playing a lot of guitar lately, so I decided to give him one.

I choked on my Chex Mix.

[TehShiz]

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.

[quote]Craigadams93 wrote:

Sylvanus wrote:

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.


That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special m

[messiah01]

That picture of him makes me want to punch him in the face

[TehShiz]

Oh wow. Internet lagged and i quoted the same thing twice >.>

Sorry.

[TJM2482]

Fallout Boy IS one of the reasons why MTV sucks. MTV hasn't been good in over a decade, when are people going to realize that it's never going to get better.

[Red33]

FNMTV plays the same videos over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

[Raijouta]

Yeah! I gave one to Lil Wayne last week on the show. He’s been playing a lot of guitar lately, so I decided to give him one.

Oh wow.

[whitestrat279]

Its good that he is getting MUSIC Television (since that is what MTV stands for those who are fooled by their "reality" shows) to play music instead of those horrible actors on the Hills.

But he shouldn't have his own signature bass. Or be inspiring others. But he is doing something productive.

[pigmaggots]

Craigadams93 wrote:

Sylvanus wrote:

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.


That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special musically though.

...ok we don't hate Pete Wentz as a person... his bass lines are like beginner

Play for the song.

He doesn't need his own signature bass though, thats just silly

[Renfordoggz]

TheZookeeper wrote:

Too many people on UG talk out of their arses.

Why are they asking how he can inspire anyone to pick up a bass 'when he can barely play the damn instrument'?
Two words... Kurt Cobain.

Kurt Cobain inspired me to pick up guitar...and actually he can play guitar much better than Pete WEntz plays bass not to mention if you see the video of Kurt playing bass he's actually better than this Pete guy.

Pete Wentz has just got a little more respect from me cos he's trying at least and from what he's saying it seems he listens to a variety of music..

[CrabShrapnel]

I swear, UG puts articles with this guys face on it just so they can ban people for commenting. In the legendary words of Admiral Ackbar: "It's a trap!"

[jcpunkrock]

why the hell are you comparin pete wentz with kurt cobain, kurt's a legend and pete well, pete wears too much make up and can barely play bass

[AnoKid09]

Retro Rocker wrote:

If I want to watch a video that's exciting I'll sit down with some Star Wars.

+100,000

[broken fusion!]

i know one way he can help, and it's by driving his tour bus off a cliff

CrabShrapnel wrote:

I swear, UG puts articles with this guys face on it just so they can ban people for commenting. In the legendary words of Admiral Ackbar: "It's a trap!"

Trap for what?
Banning people is not fun at all.You just follow the rules,No spam/flame.

[isabiggles]

Pete Wentz: 'People Want To See Videos That Are Still Exciting'


I'd like to see a video of him jumping off a cliff. Now that's entertainment.

[rocnroll4evr93]

tomathy wrote:

themightygooch wrote:



How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.



dont forget les claypool

or victor wooten

yes, but still no one has yet to mention GEDDY LEE!!!!

God'sFlesh wrote:

Sure this might make more music on MTV but there will still only be gay mainstream shit like Fall Out Boy on the channel.

+1

[rocnroll4evr93]

isabiggles wrote:


Pete Wentz: 'People Want To See Videos That Are Still Exciting'


I'd like to see a video of him jumping off a cliff. Now that's entertainment.

+100000.99999

[cm_punk_fan]

go emad for your last statement there...
but i don't really like FOB's music(especially the infinity on high cd) but they do have a few songs that i will listen to. i'm glad someones gonna try to save MTV even if it will turn out to fail horribly at least he's trying... and you don't relize how much of an ass-hat someone can make of themself until you read comments from articles like this

[tomathy]

whitenoise1313 wrote:

tomathy wrote:

themightygooch wrote:



How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


dont forget les claypool

or victor wooten


Don't forget John Myung either. Dave Ellefson or Cliff Burton should also be mentioned

also stanley clarke

and i suppose that one from rancid

AND JACO! how could i forget him?

nikki sixx should also be included

[Aplanken]

tomathy wrote:

whitenoise1313 wrote:

tomathy wrote:

themightygooch wrote:



How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


dont forget les claypool

or victor wooten


Don't forget John Myung either. Dave Ellefson or Cliff Burton should also be mentioned

also stanley clarke

and i suppose that one from rancid

AND JACO! how could i forget him?

nikki sixx should also be included

stop naming all bassplayers in the world... any dickhead can play better then Pete Wnetz... the dude should be hoggtied!

[jakehendrixman]

PETE WENTZ IS SUCH A TOOL

[David_Bowie=GOD]

Sid Vicious played bass better than pete wentz, and he couldnt even really play it at all.

[0h The Horror]

musefanatic :
themightygooch wrote:

How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


He inspired me to play bass so I could be shitloads better than him...

Got a bass? If so, you're already shitloads better than him.
Anywho, I'm considering we all boycott UG until they stop posting bullshit interviews of this... I can't even come up with an insult. The first 7 articles were enough, just let this ridiculous little boy band die off for ****'s sake.

[RandyVanhalen13]

sombody tell UG that the majority of UG users who arnt fags dont want to hear about bands like fall out boy

[mrbiscuits315]

As far as I'm concerned, the only good thing that came off of MTV was beavis&butthead.

[boyan89]

or Mtv2 headbangers ball Fob dont make good music videos they are all crappy

[boyan89]

im saying MTV 2 Headbangers ball is good where as Fob aeren't and have no creativity in music or videos

[mibe]

"People Want To See Videos That Are Still Exciting"
naaaa... bullshit

[Jayez]

dammit UG stop interviewing this guy

[Bellz06!]

AnoKid09 wrote:

Retro Rocker wrote:

If I want to watch a video that's exciting I'll sit down with some Star Wars.


+100,000

lol +100,001

[Pauldapro]

Jayez wrote:

dammit UG stop interviewing this guy

+1

RandyVanhalen13 wrote:

sombody tell UG that the majority of UG users who arnt fags dont want to hear about bands like fall out boy

I'm not a fob fan,too.
Somebody has told before and answer was:
Just Don't Read IT!

[vermilion444]

The funny thing is, this article doesn't really have much to do with Fall Out Boy. All he's saying is he wants music videos to be creative and come back. He didn't say he wanted MTV to play his band's shit only or that it would only be music he liked.

I don't like the band's music (it's not my style), but I don't hate the guy. What's the point? So he's not technically good at the bass. Big deal, millions of people love his songs and adore him and I don't know any of you.

[mikko_9119]

^ I agree... If you don't like the band, then you really have no reason to come here and bash them. Just go somewhere else

[duncang]

boyan89 wrote:

im saying MTV 2 Headbangers ball is good where as Fob aeren't and have no creativity in music or videos

You can be, uh, wrong about their music all you like, but it's a tad dense to claim that they have no creativity in their videos. I mean, they aren't anything groundbreaking but they're definitely entertaining and well made.

[Black Star]

boyan89 wrote:

im saying MTV 2 Headbangers ball is good where as Fob aeren't and have no creativity in music or videos

Headbangers Ball is far from being any better than FOB, and I'm not even a fan of them.

I respect Pete Wentz for this. People can say whatever they want about him, but anybody who's willing to help get bands out there already earns a tremendous amount of respect.

[slayer_rule_\m/]

mikko_9119 wrote:

slayer_rule_\m/ wrote:

was mtv actually good before i was born or during my childhood when i didnt know what mtv was? it was very good... had great music. Now it's just alot of pop and rap. There are still some good gems or whatever on there... but nowhere nears as good as it was back in the day.

k its just that i heard a lot of stuff about it always being bad, then again i like punk rock,so im bound to be against eveything :P jk

[isabiggles]

I'm not a fob fan,too.
Somebody has told before and answer was:
Just Don't Read IT!

It takes up space for good bands that could have been interviewed though.

[caught22]

I'm not a fan of his music, but I admire what he's doing.

[adfrocker13]

fall out boy couldnt play for there life's live

[guitaringnathan]

he's trying to bring back videos but it'll still be crappy pop and rap. But i really wish ug would feature more inspiring people, the guys who make you wanna pick up your instrument and be the next big thing, and I really feel like giving up on guitar when I see pete wentz interviews cause he can barely play the bass, he can barely get the pick to even hit the string.

And to whoever mentioned kurt cobain, go listen to in utero, there were some riffs and a few solos that were genius. dont bring him down to pete wentz level.

[eetfuk58]

yeah i think the only reason 99% of the people here read crap about fall out boy just to make fun of it and see why its taking up so much space on their favorite guitar site. but really...this guy can not play bass worth a crap. mtv sucks because they play sh*t from bands like fob.

[eetfuk58]

guitaringnathan wrote:

he's trying to bring back videos but it'll still be crappy pop and rap. But i really wish ug would feature more inspiring people, the guys who make you wanna pick up your instrument and be the next big thing, and I really feel like giving up on guitar when I see pete wentz interviews cause he can barely play the bass, he can barely get the pick to even hit the string.

And to whoever mentioned kurt cobain, go listen to in utero, there were some riffs and a few solos that were genius. dont bring him down to pete wentz level.

amen. AMEN.

[potatoguitar]

There Was Once A Time When MTV Was Good, For Instance, THE EIGHTIES, When There Were The Dire Straits, Vinnie Moore, Iron Maiden, Metallica And Some More, If You Want Almost Decent Music, I Recommend Some Scuzz (Channel 364)

P.S. Pent Wentz Is A Douche

[SerpentineVIVIV]

Yeah, I was in a bunch of bands that were kind of bad versions of them! I guess we were pretty good, though!

....wow, talk about insulting good death metal...and frankly, the girl can't play bass. I could play better, and I barely play bass.

[xTrueTillDeathx]

musefanatic wrote:

themightygooch wrote:

How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.

He inspired me to play bass so I could be shitloads better than him...

+384702897430289764

[icekold23]

I say bring back Arma Angelus. One of the only reasons I stayed in the area for so long. At least do one song at a show or something. Yeah other than that I'm good. I don't watch tv that much so...

Seriously though Arma Angelus was one of the best things that ever happened back when I looked up to Pete.

[ripjoestrummer]

MTV will never go back to its golden days because music will never go back to its golden days. screw wentz.

[Darky49]

lmao lets all be real cool and bash fob. but then secretly listen to them.. oh man, here comes anotehr barage of comments denying it!

[madman_ariel]

TheZookeeper wrote:

Too many people on UG talk out of their arses.

Why are they asking how he can inspire anyone to pick up a bass 'when he can barely play the damn instrument'?
Two words... Kurt Cobain.

+1
but i dont like FOB music at all
and i love nirvana
but you're right there!

[Nddesh]

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.

while you were writting this you hopped to get a Private message from him i guess?

Pete Wenz sux.. even without him in FOB ..they would sound the same.. most of his bass line are hidden by the drummer.. so he can put off his amp in a show and no one would notice..

[adam.on.fire]

MTV is disgusting and the fact that he's co-operating with them just shows how much of a money grabbing prick he really is.

[mosh_rocker2006]

Pretty sure i want to hear music that is exciting! I could care less about people like Fall Out Boy making videos so they can see how cool they look. It all starts with the music...and if you can't make it there then you're screwed in my eyes.

[matred06]

could this guy be wearing any more make up?

[RunawayKaren]

Nddesh wrote:

Pete Wenz sux.. even without him in FOB ..they would sound the same.. most of his bass line are hidden by the drummer.. so he can put off his amp in a show and no one would notice..

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that...I'm not going to try and pretend like like only I can decide what's good and bad music(like most people on this site)...But I can't bring myself to respect this guy.

[discountking]

TheZookeeper wrote:

Too many people on UG talk out of their arses.

Why are they asking how he can inspire anyone to pick up a bass 'when he can barely play the damn instrument'?
Two words... Kurt Cobain.

bahahaha what's tard

[tangled]

Why are they asking how he can inspire anyone to pick up a bass 'when he can barely play the damn instrument'?
Two words... Kurt Cobain.

You need to off yourself as quickly as possible.

So does this fallout boy queer wearing eyeliner. MTV is an insult to musicians and humanity as a whole.

[sum1udunno]

I can't believe UG actually posted this interview. It's basically an invitation to an all-out flame session at Pete Wentz.

[KKING911]

I agree with him on this.

[AtreyuVT]

the1 wrote:

I don't see why people shit on him and FOB so much. There really are worse bands out there... The thing is a good idea.

This.

[Melodic_Rocker]

^^^^brand* not band lol

[Set-Abominae]

Am I he only one weirded out by this mans mouth? It sticks out at you...

[XSider]

I don't like them either, but guys. Relax. You cannot hate him this much.

[Mrlw]

Melodic_Rocker wrote:

Pete Wentz and FOB are nothing but sell out corporate tools with shitty music that never evolves or changes with new albums. of course he would be playing a squier, a crummy band only n00bs use. i wouldnt mind if FOB disappeared from the earth altogether... god they suck

Can you actually say you've heard all their albums and not just the singles because every album they have has a very different sound to the last despite keeping within the genre

[dieloony2]

i'd rather hear exciting music.

whatever happened to credibility?

[aznmetalhead93]

If you’re hanging on to the hope that MTV might return to its golden days, Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz might just be able to help.

I stopped reading after that.

[Gibjian]

wow. i actually have some respect for fall out boy now.

[Melodic_Rocker]

Mrlw wrote:

Melodic_Rocker wrote:

Pete Wentz and FOB are nothing but sell out corporate tools with shitty music that never evolves or changes with new albums. of course he would be playing a squier, a crummy band only n00bs use. i wouldnt mind if FOB disappeared from the earth altogether... god they suck


Can you actually say you've heard all their albums and not just the singles because every album they have has a very different sound to the last despite keeping within the genre

yeah i bought from under the cork tree and infinity on high for some stupid reason, then i saw them on the window of department stores and in commercials for best buy... thats why theyre sell outs all they care about is money and not making good music

[Fly, Marlowe]

[quote=Melodic Rocker]Pete Wentz and FOB are nothing but sell out corporate tools with shitty music that never evolves or changes with new albums.[/quote]

Yeah, you clearly have never listened to them.



At any rate, Fall Out Boy may have sold out, but at least they're being creative about it. Feel free to dislike their music, but that doesn't mean it's "bad". It may be simple, but it's catchy as hell. All you, with your 'holier than thou' additudes as you pass judgment on music sound pretty stuck up and ridiculous.


And really, in this article, Wentz is doing 2 things:
1. Bringing music back to MTV.
2. Trying to make accessible basses

^sounds good to me.

[Melodic_Rocker]

apart the their corporate sell outiveness their music is generic punk/emo crap thats overplayed and loved by every pseudo rebel that think they know what rock is

[Chozz]

TTwoo wrote:

I gave up on MTV a long time ago.

+Infinity

I've also given up on Kerrang.

[Fly, Marlowe]

...by every pseudo rebel that think they know what rock is

hypocrite much?

[Melodic_Rocker]

how so???

[Shaned]

im lucky...if i want to see videos of the music i like i watch headbanger's ball

[xothefancykid]

personally, i'm a fan of fall out boy. i mean, they're not the GREATEST band i've ever heard, but they're good at what they do. granted, wentz doesn't really play bass all that well and trohman's guitar isn't always tuned well, but it sounds good when it's put with the other songs, so it's fine with me.

but to all of you fob haters: i'm guessing you've never heard any of the band members' side/past musical projects?
pete wentz was in arma angelus, a band that is much more hardcore than fall out boy.
joe trohman has a website where he posts guitar riffs he makes, and trust me, the riffs are pretty insane. and patrick stump sometimes joins him in his riffs, a prime example being their guitar riff challenge.
and andy hurley was in racetraitor, and listens to a lot of metal.


in all honesty, if wentz WASN'T in fall out boy, i'm sure a good majority of you would give the man some respect for what he's doing. you shouldn't bash a guy for trying to make a music channel more about music just because he's in a band you hate. it's pretty stupid.

[Tumble-weed]

Fi-Fi wrote:

Muse=Rock wrote:

themightygooch wrote:

How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


+1

+2

+300,000!!!

[Matt4mayor]

I love how you people think you are so big and bad by bashing Pete, his bass, and his wife when in truth, you are the people who probably have no musical ability at all, and you have no wife or girlfriend at all. Pete can play well enough for FOB to make s-loads of money and he loves wat he does which is more to say for you lame people working dead end jobs.
Love Ya Pete!

[bi-ah!]

pete wentz playing death metal?
XD
anyways MTV stands for music television...which i have always found ironic becasue there is never any music on it...and when there is...it is mainstream rap and rock that is basicly stuff the music industry creates, packages, and sends to mtv, nothing origonal, technical, soulful, melodic,or anything. if MTV wants to know what this generation thinks of them, all they will get is a big middle finger in their face.

[The Tyler]

Pingis_Or_Death wrote:

It’s going to still be a Fall Out Boy record. It will be different, but it won’t be that different.
Well of course, they still want to sell millions of records don't they? And I don't think they'll be doing that if they put out a folk record. That's why they're going to stay to their radio-friendly pop-punk roots for ever.

whats wrong with that?

[Laces Out Danny]

I realize that the only reason anybody gives me any attention for anything else is because of Fall Out Boy.

Soo true

However I appreciate him doing the FNMTV stuff

[DennisIsAwesome]

who watches mtv..no i!

[therealltrain]

this show will most likely suck. however pete wentz KICKS ASS! along with the rest of FOB!!!!

look how many comments are on this article. he's obviously doing something right! hahahahaha

[qwerty_555]

JRowe3388 wrote:

Say what you want about FOB, but I'll give this to them. Their music videos are pretty entertaining.

And they all star Pete Wentz. All he does is plays the bass, and even at that he's not very good. Patrick Stump never really gets recognition as the lead singer.

(I'm not a fan of FOB by the way)

[joshua029]

um... I would rather watch mud dry then FOB videos...

[therescue06]

TTwoo wrote:

I gave up on MTV a long time ago.

+1

[NorfIrIon]

Doesn't seem like that bad a guy as far as the interview goes. A little faggish, yes, and I still hate his music, but not a horrible guy at all.

[whitebluesboy]

He would have been 5 when thriller came out...

[Hergiswi]

Matt4mayor wrote:

I love how you people think you are so big and bad by bashing Pete, his bass, and his wife when in truth, you are the people who probably have no musical ability at all, and you have no wife or girlfriend at all. Pete can play well enough for FOB to make s-loads of money and he loves wat he does which is more to say for you lame people working dead end jobs.
Love Ya Pete!

I love how you get off to defending celebrities on the internet. You're a waste.

[reaper846]

too bad his idea of an exciting video involves sodomy

[whitebluesboy]

I like fall out boy's tunes and I think he is a famous bassist but I often question bass endorsements for pop punk guitarists.

[archangelseren]

sure do!

[dvd_dq]

i don't c any metallica or guns & roses influence in his playing.

[ENZO_]

as long as they dont play fob videos it should be good

[TheClincher]

i think everyone should quit bitching about how pete wentz sucks, etc...he's actually doing some good, for once. i never thought i'd ever say this, but +1 to pete wentz for doing this.

[pnkr0cker]

qwerty_555 wrote:

JRowe3388 wrote:

Say what you want about FOB, but I'll give this to them. Their music videos are pretty entertaining.

And they all star Pete Wentz. All he does is plays the bass, and even at that he's not very good. Patrick Stump never really gets recognition as the lead singer.

(I'm not a fan of FOB by the way)

first of all, patrick is camera-shy. second of all pete wentz usually shows the most energy in the band besides joe. besides pete should be more known for his clever lyrics, not his bass skill

[MonsterOfRock]

I'm a guitarist. But when I first picked up the bass, I was better than him.

(*on topic*, good idea for a programme, but probably a bad idea, as we all know.)

[Toxtoth_O_Grady]

I don't like FOB, but this shows at least some good intentions. It'd be nice to see MTV playing music videos again.

[pnkr0cker]

Melodic Rocker]Pete Wentz and FOB are nothing but sell out corporate tools with shitty music that never evolves or changes with new albums.

dude heres a summery for each albums sound.

take this to your grave- indie, pop-punk, alternative

from under the cork tree - rock, alternative, pop

infinity on high- r&b-ish, rock, pop-rock

if you listened to their songs that werent on the radio you could easily say they are creative. most people dont like them anymore because their new album sound so much more different than their old stuff.

mainly what im trying to say is, dont judge them by their songs on the radio because they generally sound totally different than their other songs.

[m1chael w0rkman]

Craigadams93 wrote:

Sylvanus wrote:

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.


That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special musically though.

...ok we don't hate Pete Wentz as a person... his bass lines are like beginner

No.
I hate Pete Wentz as a person. He does nothing but sell his own image and try to make it look like he actually gives a crap about the music industry. When the music industry stops having pop-punk bands at the top of the charts again, he'll abandon ship and probably start a clothing line.
Guys In Girls' Pants Apparel. Or something like that.

/rant.

[[travis]]

Craigadams93 wrote:

Sylvanus wrote:

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.


That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special musically though.


...ok we don't hate Pete Wentz as a person... his bass lines are like beginner

I'm more on the "Pete Wentz sucks, period." side.

[HemlockCocktail]

jakehendrixman wrote:

PETE WENTZ IS SUCH A TOOL

Don't drag Tool into this one...

XSider wrote:

I don't like them either, but guys. Relax. You cannot hate him this much.

Mention Pete "Lightning" Wentz in the Bass Forum if you really want to see new levels of hatred...

I can forgive simple bass lines if they fit the music, I can forgive a bassist wanting to be the focal point of the music video as a bassist (it IS against the norm after all), I can forgive him for Ashlee, she is kinda hot...but I can't forgive his severe U.S.I. (Unwarranted Self-Importance). His manner would be more suited with musicians far better than Wentz. The songs are catchy, and they've made it, I'll take nothing away from them, but it does anger me that someone with marginal talent makes it while friends and members here @ UG still get passed up and have to settle for crappy 9-5 jobs.

[HemlockCocktail]

I'll amend my last statement, even better musicians would no carry the sheer levels of douchebaggery and U.S.I. that Wentz has...so that makes me doubly mad...

[shadow__666]

At least for once Petey is actually trying to do something OK. Sure it may not work so well in practice, but at least his intentions aren't bad.
Sure, he isn't a great bassist, but if some 12 year old girl decides she wants to play bass because of him and get his stuff cause she can easily make his sound who really cares? More kids playing instruments is a good thing.
I'm not a FOB fan, and I hate Petey's guts usually but for once I think he's doing something right. Credit where credit's due.

[saad_nirvana]

That's why they're going to stay to their radio-friendly pop-punk roots for ever.

fallout boy is NOT punk in any sense unless you want to count the ripp off basic chord changes or the wannabe nirvana instrumental destruction at the end of their videos

[wildchild6660]

zerodeck wrote:

Did you ever see yourself eventually playing in a band like Deicide?

Yeah, I was in a bunch of bands that were kind of bad versions of them! I guess we were pretty good, though!

this is a joke right?
I actually got a little respect for him and the whole FNMTV thing, but this can't be true...

Ha ha. I doubt he even knows who deicide are. I have no problem with FOB but that sound like a fukin lie.

[fcukinghostile]

He inspired me to play bass so I could be shitloads better than him...

+11111

[dannyboy1992]

i think this is a great idea

and maybe he can play bass well but just doesnt want to

mayebe

...

Checked!

[--Holy--Diver--]

"If you're hanging on to the hope that MTV might return to its golden days, Fall Out Boy bassist Pete Wentz might just be able to help."


what a complete joke.

[Slashified]

this is just another attempt of the emo's to gain power over the world

[--Holy--Diver--]

^^^haha emos on world domination.haha

[the1]

Holy crap this place is full to the brim with elitists.
FOB play simple pop punk. There's nothing wrong with that!!

I like the way everyone is like "MAKEUP=GAY!!" Yet NOONE gives Alexio Lahio any shit...

Pete has some okay bass lines e.g. Grenade Jumper and Grand Theft Autumn. He isn't great by any means but he's still better than nothing. Plus he does write some good lyrics...
People need to realise that there will always be mainstream music. At least FOB give people an accesible route into the rock world.

[wilson 595]

as long as music still sucks, mtv will suck.

[GuitaPlaya]

MTV never was good, they have always played shitty music. Kudos to the Dead Kennedys for pointing that out over 20 years ago.

[Detonation]

the1 wrote:

Holy crap this place is full to the brim with elitists.
FOB play simple pop punk. There's nothing wrong with that!!

I like the way everyone is like "MAKEUP=GAY!!" Yet NOONE gives Alexio Lahio any shit...

Pete has some okay bass lines e.g. Grenade Jumper and Grand Theft Autumn. He isn't great by any means but he's still better than nothing. Plus he does write some good lyrics...
People need to realise that there will always be mainstream music. At least FOB give people an accesible route into the rock world.

Because Alexi Laiho is god compared to pete wentz and ya mtv will always suck now, i even dont like to watch headbangers ball all that much anymore they dont even play decent death metal or w.e

[TheSoupDragon]

m1chael w0rkman wrote:

Craigadams93 wrote:

Sylvanus wrote:

whiteraven119 wrote:

I don't understand how you people can be such jerks about this guy. So you don't like Fall Out Boy's music, that's good for you. You don't have to go and smear Pete Wentz's name every single chance you get.

There's a slight chance he's actually going to READ a few of these comments and you people who are bashing him probably realize this. I'm willing to bet he's going to just sit there and laugh to himself at the people who think it's "cool" to say he and Fall Out Boy are failures.

If he does see this particular comment, I hope he realizes that there are still people who don't jump on the "I-Hate-Pete-Wentz" bandwagon, who realize that he could actually be a pretty cool guy in person, despite what the entire internet would say.


That's actually a good point, not saying I like fall out boy though because I haven't even heard any of their songs. I did see a few of his bass tabs and it looks like he isn't anything special musically though.

...ok we don't hate Pete Wentz as a person... his bass lines are like beginner


No.
I hate Pete Wentz as a person. He does nothing but sell his own image and try to make it look like he actually gives a crap about the music industry. When the music industry stops having pop-punk bands at the top of the charts again, he'll abandon ship and probably start a clothing line.
Guys In Girls' Pants Apparel. Or something like that.

/rant.

He does give a crap about the music industry, you just refuse to believe anything positive he does.
His band plays a genre of music you don't like, get over it.
He'll probably continue playing pop-punk because maybe, just maybe, he enjoys it.
Oh, and he does have his own clothing line; Clandestine Industries.

[mikko_9119]

pnkr0cker wrote:

Melodic Rocker]Pete Wentz and FOB are nothing but sell out corporate tools with shitty music that never evolves or changes with new albums.

dude heres a summery for each albums sound.

take this to your grave- indie, pop-punk, alternative

from under the cork tree - rock, alternative, pop

infinity on high- r&b-ish, rock, pop-rock

if you listened to their songs that werent on the radio you could easily say they are creative. most people dont like them anymore because their new album sound so much more different than their old stuff.

mainly what im trying to say is, dont judge them by their songs on the radio because they generally sound totally different than their other songs.

so true... the songs on the radio are nothing compared to the better songs on the album.. before you critisize them as sell out, listen to their older stuff. their newer stuff on the albums- basically anything not on the radio.

[rattlehead924]

Hergiswi wrote
I love how you get off to defending celebrities on the internet. You're a waste.

and you getting off on trashing them is any differant

[LegsOnEarth]

sorry Wentz, MTV died a looong time ago!

[superstud_zat]

oh oh, Geddy Lee FTW

and pete does kinda suck, but i like FOB

[smalRaptor]

Hate to break it to you guys, but Kurt Cobain was a pretty average guitar player. I'm a huge Nirvana fan, I have most of their albums. It was his creativity that made him great.

[pyritmann]

smalRaptor wrote:

Hate to break it to you guys, but Kurt Cobain was a pretty average guitar player. I'm a huge Nirvana fan, I have most of their albums. It was his creativity that made him great.

lol a few of their three? (2 major label)

but yeah your right, as dumb as it sounds you dont need to be good at your instrument to make good music. and NIRVANA is a good example. Kurt Cobain wasnt the best guitarist, krist novoselic wasnt the best bassist, and dave grohl wasnt the best bass player, but they had great ideas and are still one of the best bands ever!.

Not That im comparing Pete Wentz in any way to Kurt Cobain, Pete wentz is a disgrace to music and he doesnt have any good ideas left. I liked a couple of fOBs old songs, but only the more punkish ones though. At least he's trying to redeem himself with all this mtv stuff but mtv is lost forever.

[fastlanestoner]

yeah they play videos on this show...but they're all rap. mtv will not change. ever.

i like fob.

[reignofrock]

its really sad that a member of fall out boy is leading anything, cmon, they really really are no talent hacks merely seeking money and fame. its a sad day when the music world has to look to people like this

[Nathan_393]

Aplanken wrote:

tomathy wrote:

whitenoise1313 wrote:

tomathy wrote:

themightygooch wrote:



How can this guy inspire anyone to play bass, when he can barely play the damn instrument?
Look to Tim Commerford and Flea for inspiration not this ****.


dont forget les claypool

or victor wooten


Don't forget John Myung either. Dave Ellefson or Cliff Burton should also be mentioned

also stanley clarke

and i suppose that one from rancid

AND JACO! how could i forget him?

nikki sixx should also be included

stop naming all bassplayers in the world... any dickhead can play better then Pete Wnetz... the dude should be hoggtied!

i was waiting for somebody to mention Jaco. That dude should be number one on the list.

[flamingmarble27]

oh god.

[fret13]

completely off subject (kinda) but i think tis safe to say that if anyone is going to revive the old MTV thing, it would be a Blink reunion... but then again... think of all the other things that would lead to...

[dutch5367]

Now if Pete Wentz wasn't married to Ashley Simpson would anybody even know who he is? I mean I don't like Ashley Simpson anymore than I like Pete Wentz, but honestly couldn't even told you what band he was in till I read this article.

[pnkr0cker]

^^^ dude pete has been known for fall out boy since from under the cork tree! why would people be bashing his band instead of his wife? and thats been public for a few months now so thats too soon to make that assumption, you just arent filled in (which really isnt a bad thing because the people who bash fob havent given a real technical fact without being a smartass of how they suck)

[B]C [R]ich :
does anyone find it somewhat strange, how homo bands such as fallout boy and panic at the disco that have very little skill(if any), horrible lyrics, and if not the GAYEST music videos of all time are pushed upon people by radio, tv etc, as opposed to incredibly talented bands like slayer, lamb of god, pantera or any one with real talent, how come i dont see them on MTV or never hear them on the local radios? I mean come on, enough of my generation are frail little wus's, these sort of bands aren't helping that at all either. Matt Heafy of Trivium said it best, this world needs to be enlightend with some better music.

dude! yea those bands are great, (especially pantera, their music is so awesome!) but first of all they are a totally different genre, and second, they arent demanded by the majority! now if your talking about a metal station then that would be a valid argument.

[MetalBassist93]

Regression wrote:

zerodeck wrote:

Did you ever see yourself eventually playing in a band like Deicide?

Yeah, I was in a bunch of bands that were kind of bad versions of them! I guess we were pretty good, though!


this is a joke right?
I actually got a little respect for him and the whole FNMTV thing, but this can't be true...


He did play in some heavy-ish bands before Fall Out Boy. Off the top of my head, he did vocals for Arma Angelus, and the Rise Against frontman guy was in the band to I think.

whoa
arma angelus has a pretty good sound lol
didnt expect that all haha

[.:Metal Boy:.]

thing is that, well he plays what he has to for the music, its not like he needs to play super complex bass lines because that would just clog up the music and make it alot less accessible to the public, and if i were making a heap of money from playing catchy songs that people likes then i'd keep doing it. Not everything has to be hard to play, it is pop-punk after all :p, pete wentz is still a bit of a glory hog but i dont think he really deserves all the flak he gets, he also writes some catchy lyrics and some occasionaly bass lines that get stuck in your head like dance dance.

[brighteyes577]

ok guys just think about it..
they have to make a NEW mtv for MUSIC
because the current mtv, (which is supposed to be MUSIC TV!!)
doesnt have any music!

how retarded is that
and yeah pete wentz blah blah blah
i dont like him that much but whatever

[decaydance_rokk]

Pete Wentz has his own clothing line; it Clandestine Industries.
and seriously he can play bass better than half of you guys. he has been playing for at least 9 years if not more.
And Fall Out Boy is a really amazing band that puts together stuff that means something to them and I am sure they don't give what you guys think of them.

Just stop trying to put them down because all your doing is wasting your time.

By the way not many guys can pull of eyeliner and some girls can't either, and pete pulls it off better than half the girls in the world can. it doesn't matter what they wear.

Its the message they are trying to get across. and they are trying to get something across. you just can't hear it because you stuck-up, narrow-minded people can't clean the ****ing earwax out of your ears.

[Ravenblacktear]

Well, I may not have much faith in MTV anymore, but I must say that if Pete can get some music back on the station, I will be at least a little bit happy.

I can say more about what people have said in response to this, but I don't really feel like arguing. I'm sad to see that people can't read an interview without the thing breaking down into insulting an individual. I hate alot of bands, but I don't take my precious time to flame them. You are all musicians, and as musicians, you are in it to make music and to express yourself. When you have millions of musicians around the world making music, you have alot of different languages for the same concepts and the same feelings. It is all relative. It is like Poe and Twain. In, my opinion, Poe was such a magnificent writer, but I hate Mark Twain's writing for the most part. But I don't sit around all day flaming Mark Twain or saying that people who read Mark Twain are idiots. People just see things differently, and that is what's wonderful about music, or any form of self-expression. Don't insult a musician because they don't play the music that you like or they don't play amazingly complicated riffs. Maybe that's just how Pete wants to play. Some people want to play super complicated, fast, shred-speed riffs , and that is fine. For example, Satch is an amazing musician and I love Alexi from Children of Bodom as well as Sinister and Vengence from Avenged Sevenfold, but that is just how they want to play and that works for them. They get their point across and they really inspire me, but a really simple piece can be just as expressive as a complicated piece. Maybe something gets lost in translation between the musician and the listener, but as Einstein taught us, EVERY perspective is on equal terms with EVERY other. And if you really don't understand what I'm saying, then you really need to take time and think about what music REALLY is.

Oh, and it's quite ironic that I took the time to write that long winded thing when I was the one to complain about people waisting their time with posts, but oh well, if I get my point across, I'm happy.

[Lauri]

VintageZen wrote:

mikko_9119 wrote:

I hope this MTV thing works out...
At the end of the day, Fall Out Boy is the most important aspect of my lifeWait... isn't he married?
yeah to pathetic Ashlee Simpson

perfect couple

[Neon D-von]

While people have been tagging on amazing bassists names to the list, I might as well add:

Geddy Lee
Dirk Lance

[jokefeat]

I don't get it, what's wrong with my super sweet 16?

[Benjibum]

Lol saying he cant play bass is like saying Mike Dirnt cant play bass or Tom Delonge cant play guitar... For all we know, they might be better than buckethead, but their music doesnt call for it.

Millions of record sales means you are generally selling to stupid people ie. twelve ear old girls. the dont wanna hear slap bass solos and whatnot.

Having said that, he might be utter shite for all i know

[MetalBassist07]

decaydance_rokk wrote:

Pete Wentz has his own clothing line; it Clandestine Industries.
and seriously he can play bass better than half of you guys. he has been playing for at least 9 years if not more.
And Fall Out Boy is a really amazing band that puts together stuff that means something to them and I am sure they don't give what you guys think of them.

Just stop trying to put them down because all your doing is wasting your time.

By the way not many guys can pull of eyeliner and some girls can't either, and pete pulls it off better than half the girls in the world can. it doesn't matter what they wear.

Its the message they are trying to get across. and they are trying to get something across. you just can't hear it because you stuck-up, narrow-minded people can't clean the ****ing earwax out of your ears.

Um...wow...now that I know how long he's been playing, HE REALLY SUCKS. To be playing that long and to be that bad is pretty sad. I played at his level my first 6 months of playing.

[MetalBassist07]

For the bassist of a band, one who has zero skill, to be the face of the band....yea...it doesn't say much for the band.

And I really don't see how telling everyone that he has his own clothing line, that we wears make-up better than chicks, and that he actually has been playing for a long time defends him at all. lol

[WhereArtEsteban]

jimmyhotpants wrote:

why won't they just give up??

Because they're successful.....

[pnkr0cker]

.:Metal Boy:. :
thing is that, well he plays what he has to for the music, its not like he needs to play super complex bass lines because that would just clog up the music and make it alot less accessible to the public, and if i were making a heap of money from playing catchy songs that people likes then i'd keep doing it. Not everything has to be hard to play, it is pop-punk after all :p, pete wentz is still a bit of a glory hog but i dont think he really deserves all the flak he gets, he also writes some catchy lyrics and some occasionaly bass lines that get stuck in your head like dance dance.

you probably wont even be noticed cause what you say is the exact reason why he plays easy stuff. i cant imagine fob with crazy bass lines lol.

another thing, hes probably not that bad because ultimate-guitar themselves chose to interview him!

Wentz told Ultimate-Guitar that there were a few kinks that needed to be worked out after the June 13 debut show, but he hopes that FNMTV Premieres will finally give artists and record labels a reason to put time, money, and creativity back into music videos.

[Tin_man]

jokefeat wrote:

I don't get it, what's wrong with my super sweet 16?

Hahaha! +1

I have no faith in Pete Wentz. It is POSSIBLE to keep your sound (if you want) and actually write intelligent music. CCR wasn't complicated music, but at least they tried. Pete's been playing for what...? 9 years, someone said... How pathetic is that? If he really cared about his fans OR the music, he would invest a lot more time into making music instead of manufacturing it. You want to know why most people on this thread think FoB sucks so bad? Because they're nothing special. Sure, they're catchy, but that doesn't matter in the long run. Catchiness is only a part of being one of those timeless bands (usually...). In 25 years, no one will care who Fall Out Boy was, because they don't push themselves to anything. They'll be rich and happy in 25 years, yeah, but their contribution to the world will be several CDs full of 30+ minutes of emptiness and catchy fluff. I think anybody can make good music. It just disappoints me that no one seems to try anymore. There is hope for FoB. Not much, but...

[Guitard 1988]

Although the music they play is crap, at least it's music. I'd rather watch music videos by shitty bands over any episode of the hills any day!

And you never know a person's playing potential. Just look at John5. A lot of the stuff he played with Manson is very easy and simple but he's one hell of a guitarist! I'm not saying that Wentz is going to be the next Claypool or anything, just that he may have more tricks up his sleeve than you think...

[vermilion444]

Jdwcomic wrote:

one word Guyliner saying that any guy who wears eyeliner is an emo fag it looks dumb as f*** I wouldnt get caught DEAD wearing ANY make-up besides going to the midnight premeire of a comicbook movie

I love the homophobes on this board. Not only is it lame to hate on someone for that, but it's hypocritical. When's the last time you saw Ozzy without makeup? Kurt Cobain used to wear makeup, Alexi Laiho wears makeup. I don't see anyone flipping out being all "Fags! Buncha queers!" Get over it. Just b/c you're insecure with your sexuality doesn't make THEM gay for throwing on a little eyeliner. I didn't realize this message board was for dumb redneck jocks, I thought it was for people that love and appreciate music and guitar in particular.

So you don't like his band, so what? If every band sounded the same (ie. your favorite band), how ****ing boring would that be? Learn to respect other people's opinions, seriously. It's not worth getting all worked b/c people like a band you don't find appealing.

[Captain Insano]

He has gained a small amount of respect from this in my eyes. I still loathe him though.

[restless_thrash]

I hope he doesn't commit suicide on tv.

[restless_thrash]

that said, a very admirable effort.

[bendystraw]

people still want to see interesting and exciting things? i had given up on our boring youth! alert the media!

For everyone that keeps commenting on how much Fall out boy sucks, the articles not really about Fob, it's more about the show he's producing. Just trying to save you guys from getting warned.

[gareno]

is it just me or does pete wentz look like a monkey

[bassm29]

honestly, i do not understand why UG keeps putting up these articles on Fall Out Boy. If you have any instrument background you realize how bad todays "bands" really are. Im sick and tired of these commercial jackasses like panic at the disco and fall out boy. I can not begin to understand how people can like these types of "bands". Three chords in the whole song and bitching about a break up. I apologize for flaming these guys, but this had to be said.

[original=punk]

Noverion wrote:

Wow, interesting to see that he used to do some death metal!
I dont really like the guy, but people take the whole thing way too damn far, hes just a musician trying to make money right? Trying to make a living

He did metalcore.

[mikko_9119]

original=punk wrote:

He did metalcore.

and i think he was just a replacement when they played live... never recorded

[superunknown4]

I respect the idea...but I hate the band with a passion. My reasons are stated above this comment.

[pnkr0cker]

I have no faith in Pete Wentz. It is POSSIBLE to keep your sound (if you want) and actually write intelligent music. CCR wasn't complicated music, but at least they tried. Pete's been playing for what...? 9 years, someone said... How pathetic is that? If he really cared about his fans OR the music, he would invest a lot more time into making music instead of manufacturing it. You want to know why most people on this thread think FoB sucks so bad? Because they're nothing special. Sure, they're catchy, but that doesn't matter in the long run. Catchiness is only a part of being one of those timeless bands (usually...). In 25 years, no one will care who Fall Out Boy was, because they don't push themselves to anything. They'll be rich and happy in 25 years, yeah, but their contribution to the world will be several CDs full of 30+ minutes of emptiness and catchy fluff. I think anybody can make good music. It just disappoints me that no one seems to try anymore. There is hope for FoB. Not much, but...

you make a good point, but think about it, look at their image that is portrayed. their songs that actually have good talent are all the other songs on their albums. but society wouldnt ever allow them to be at the top because no mater how much more musically inclined they got, people still wouldnt like them.

[fendertelechick]

Whoever said nirvana only has 3 records is wrong.
Bleach, nevermind, in utero, insecticide, muddy banks of the wishkah, and the later released unplugged, as well as the post mortem box set and sliver: best of the box. Add to that the videos and DVDs that keep surfacing (read: that keeps money in courtneys pocket) and you've got a lot of well crafted material to choose from.

[fendertelechick]

Also I agree with everyone who isn't a fan but won't slam. Peace and love on a musical scale, man. Let's end musical prejudice today. Maybe then the gas prices will go down.

[jv_music]

jackass and rob & big FTW! other than that mtv is more like MEANINGLESS.TELE.VISION. Even when they do play videos like at 4am the stuff they play aren't even great. VH1 plays better videos when it DOES play them, but other than that they sold out too. ocassionally VH1 has some cool documentaries and stuff.

[jv_music]

and he get's a +1 for banging ashley simpson.

[JoeMiller]

Hahaha
You wanna no the funny thing?
Pete Wentz is now working for the very Corporation he's Rebeling against

Tell Me thats not funny.

[Exxol]

man.. i dont even like women that have that much mascara on...
hey do you guys think it'll help my band if i slap on some makeup?

[Seidenschnur]

Good for Pete!!! He's the Kurt Hammett of our generation!!!!

[lokster]

MTV only plays mainstream songs and will never do otherwise (the only "metal" played on the entire program is at midnight since most of the regular viewers are asleep by then)

Only thing getting played nowadays is mainstream garbage ala 50cent, BFMV and Fallout Boy. If Pete Wentz wants to make a real diffrence he should murder his entire band and do us all a big favor.

[JFSJ513]

I know this is an old comment, but this is directed to the zookeeper: Are you suggesting that Kurt Cobain inspires people to play bass? Or are you saying that he couldn't play his instrument either, and that fact that it was guitar is irrelevant? Anyway, I hate Peter Wentz, like FOB. I think they have an excellent singer, and if Pete wasn't writing their lyrics, I would want them to kick him out. He sucks at bass and likes to draw attention to himself, even though he's the weak point in the band. If he wasn't there, FOB would have a great concert where they would just play and not have all sorts of filler crap where Pete gets to talk.

[ThePlanFan]

I'm Not Really A Fan Of FOB... Or Pete...
But Respect To Him For Trying To Get MTV To Do What It Was Made For...
Instead Of Showing Shit Like The Hills Or My Sweet Sixteen.
I'd Rather Listen To Music I Don't Like Than Those Shitty Programmes....

You guys never stop.
61 comments have been removed...
It's enough!

[Tin_man]

pnkr0cker wrote:


I have no faith in Pete Wentz. It is POSSIBLE to keep your sound (if you want) and actually write intelligent music. CCR wasn't complicated music, but at least they tried. Pete's been playing for what...? 9 years, someone said... How pathetic is that? If he really cared about his fans OR the music, he would invest a lot more time into making music instead of manufacturing it. You want to know why most people on this thread think FoB sucks so bad? Because they're nothing special. Sure, they're catchy, but that doesn't matter in the long run. Catchiness is only a part of being one of those timeless bands (usually...). In 25 years, no one will care who Fall Out Boy was, because they don't push themselves to anything. They'll be rich and happy in 25 years, yeah, but their contribution to the world will be several CDs full of 30+ minutes of emptiness and catchy fluff. I think anybody can make good music. It just disappoints me that no one seems to try anymore. There is hope for FoB. Not much, but...


you make a good point, but think about it, look at their image that is portrayed. their songs that actually have good talent are all the other songs on their albums. but society wouldnt ever allow them to be at the top because no mater how much more musically inclined they got, people still wouldnt like them.

You may be right. I will invest some time in to checking out what is actually on their albums. Admittedly, I like "Thnx Fr th Memrs" or whatever... I think the strings are good. I just have to, on principle, keep myself from thinking that catchy music is good music. That is only true some of the time.

Also, no more comparing Panic at the Disco to FoB. The lead singer from Panic (while a mediocre vocalist) plays, like, 8 different instruments. I think FoB may play 4. Total.

[Metal_Rich]

MTV had golden days?

Haha! Good one!

[jaybe2k4]

my personal opinion about Pete Wentz and Fall Out Boy aside... why do people hate on him for wearing eye-liner? tons of rockstars did, and still do, wear make-up and eyeliner. Kurt Cobain, Billy Joe, Ozzy Osbourne, Dio, Keith Richards, Bret Michaels, Freddy Mercury (ok, maybe that's not the best example), anybody ever in a hair-metal band (hell, Dimebag Darrell used to wear ****in make-up) just to name a few. My point is, if you're going to bash the guy, at least do it for something that makes sense

[identityxcrysis]

Pingis_Or_Death wrote:

It’s going to still be a Fall Out Boy record. It will be different, but it won’t be that different.
Well of course, they still want to sell millions of records don't they? And I don't think they'll be doing that if they put out a folk record. That's why they're going to stay to their radio-friendly pop-punk roots for ever.

Weren't there roots more of a straight up punk sound then they used to be? Right before they got famous?

[LedRoseShredder]

whoever says this group is pop punk/punk is wrong, there's nothing punk about today's so called punk bands like Sum 41, Blink 182, Plus 44, Green Day, it's all alternative pop mainstream, I hope there are people here who know what true punk is: DEAD. And, well pete cant be an inspiration, cause he sucks at the freakin instrument, but then again there's Sid Vicious...what am I doing, comparing that emo to that legend.

[LedRoseShredder]

Seidenschnur wrote:

Good for Pete!!! He's the Kurt Hammett of our generation!!!!

Do you mean Kirk Hammet or Kurt Cobain? WTF?

[LedRoseShredder]

For the last time, people, this aint pop punk, it has nothing to do with punk music, its alternative rock/pop/pop rock/emo rock,

[One Way Ticket]

Whats this? People like excitement? God ****ing dammit, UG picks the worst quotes.

[jthm_guitarist]

Is he wearing makeup in those pictures?

[stringmagician]

God damn, you could put Pete's picture on anything and UG will slag on it


Anyway, that MTV show is probably the coolest thing I've heard in a long time, good work Wentz

[Nightmare_xxx]

Man, the pete wentz flaming is getting old. I hate the guy for what he's done to the image of bassists in bands, and I'm no fall out boy fan, but to be honest, this is a good idea.

MTV seriously needs more actual music on it, and less spoiled californian kids whining about how their ferrari came in the wrong colour

*checked*

OMG, calm down for GOD'S SAKE.

[kyleblackflag]

mtv did two good things ever
Beavis And Butthead
and Jackass

end of story

[kyleblackflag]

fendertelechick wrote:

Whoever said nirvana only has 3 records is wrong.
Bleach, nevermind, in utero, insecticide, muddy banks of the wishkah, and the later released unplugged, as well as the post mortem box set and sliver: best of the box. Add to that the videos and DVDs that keep surfacing (read: that keeps money in courtneys pocket) and you've got a lot of well crafted material to choose from.

3 studio records is obviously what they meant jagoff

[flea878]

I actually found one thing in that interview fairly respectable, where he said that FOB is the most important thing, not other projects that he recognises are only possible because of band success. Whether you really like FOB (personally, im not a huge fan), or even if you like Pete Wentz (personally, im not a huge fan), its nice to see that he does attribute his own success to music, not the other off-shoots of his celebrity career.

[Boy About Town]

Cheesepuff wrote:

Pete's in it for the money and fame, and he's doing a damn good job of it while making some catchy tunes at the same time. You gotta respect that.

... No you don't.

[nathantayloryes]

MTV2 has a great selection of music videos to it.
especially that 120 minutes thats on at night time, 2 hours of songs with no adverts, in my opinion MTV2 is the best music channel

[isabiggles]

Video + music shouldn't exist.

Can someone actually tell me the point of making a video except for commercial purposes?
And no, it isn't to tell a story. If the music and lyrics can't do that for you then i give up on you.

[Våd Hamster]

Nobody can save MTV. Stop beating the dead horse I say.

[Tin_man]

tmwtp wrote:

i like how all you haters comment on how he's a bad bassist as if it's really that difficult of an insrument to play.

Haha... I laughed... But it CAN be difficult. All the people listed above (for no real reason...) have crafted some pretty intense bass lines. Geddy Lee, especially; that man is insane.

You know, I've been thinking about it, and I really don't understand the point of music videos... They really serve no purpose anymore, and using Thriller as an example is misleading, because its one of a kind. I sort of agree with what isabiggles said up above. The music should be able to tell a story if it needs to. I really just don't know how much time a band should spend on making music videos. There are definitely more important things... Like making music. Spending more time on the actual music than something produced for MTV that shows the band standing around in the rain playing their instruments for 80% of its duration. Now, if a band decided to take the video thing and get REAL creative with it, like, make sometihng as a counterpart to an album... That might be neat. Maybe.

This is about MTV not FOB!
I wonder how you guys hate Pete Wentz and let him ban you from UG for a while.

Don't flame/Don't spam - End of story.

[isomniac19]

Wow this interview surprised me. Usually he's one of the most annoying people in the music industry. But from reading this, i think he knows a little more about music than people give him credit for. And i'm glad that he's using the attention the music business gives him to make something productive. Maybe know some good punk or alternative bands can get videos on MTV instead of the freakin realitie shows and rappers with their f**kin escalades

[Confetti]

This is the on thing that made me worry

but he hopes that FNMTV Premieres will finally give artists and record labels a reason to put time, money, and creativity back into music videos

So big record companys will use money not only to make big budjet videos but use a lot of money to get the play time on MTV. Well it's been like that for decades but not as much as it is today. No one gives air time for the smaller company eith less money. *sigh*

[Santeria420]

Ravenblacktear wrote:

Well, I may not have much faith in MTV anymore, but I must say that if Pete can get some music back on the station, I will be at least a little bit happy.

I can say more about what people have said in response to this, but I don't really feel like arguing. I'm sad to see that people can't read an interview without the thing breaking down into insulting an individual. I hate alot of bands, but I don't take my precious time to flame them. You are all musicians, and as musicians, you are in it to make music and to express yourself. When you have millions of musicians around the world making music, you have alot of different languages for the same concepts and the same feelings. It is all relative. It is like Poe and Twain. In, my opinion, Poe was such a magnificent writer, but I hate Mark Twain's writing for the most part. But I don't sit around all day flaming Mark Twain or saying that people who read Mark Twain are idiots. People just see things differently, and that is what's wonderful about music, or any form of self-expression. Don't insult a musician because they don't play the music that you like or they don't play amazingly complicated riffs. Maybe that's just how Pete wants to play. Some people want to play super complicated, fast, shred-speed riffs , and that is fine. For example, Satch is an amazing musician and I love Alexi from Children of Bodom as well as Sinister and Vengence from Avenged Sevenfold, but that is just how they want to play and that works for them. They get their point across and they really inspire me, but a really simple piece can be just as expressive as a complicated piece. Maybe something gets lost in translation between the musician and the listener, but as Einstein taught us, EVERY perspective is on equal terms with EVERY other. And if you really don't understand what I'm saying, then you really need to take time and think about what music REALLY is.

Oh, and it's quite ironic that I took the time to write that long winded thing when I was the one to complain about people waisting their time with posts, but oh well, if I get my point across, I'm happy.

Thats not ironic, its hypocritical. And you didn't get a point across, you just went off on a pseudo-intellectual rant, name dropping Poe, Twain and Einstein as if they were rock stars you've slept with. Do you actually think anyone took the time to read that long squirt of verbal diarrhea?

[sanitarium424]

Gibjian wrote:

wow. i actually have some respect for fall out boy now.

i have less respect for them...and i thought it couldnt get any lower that what it was.

[Confetti]

Santeria420 wrote:

Ravenblacktear wrote:

Well, I may not have much faith in MTV anymore, but I must say that if Pete can get some music back on the station, I will be at least a little bit happy.

I can say more about what people have said in response to this, but I don't really feel like arguing. I'm sad to see that people can't read an interview without the thing breaking down into insulting an individual. I hate alot of bands, but I don't take my precious time to flame them. You are all musicians, and as musicians, you are in it to make music and to express yourself. When you have millions of musicians around the world making music, you have alot of different languages for the same concepts and the same feelings. It is all relative. It is like Poe and Twain. In, my opinion, Poe was such a magnificent writer, but I hate Mark Twain's writing for the most part. But I don't sit around all day flaming Mark Twain or saying that people who read Mark Twain are idiots. People just see things differently, and that is what's wonderful about music, or any form of self-expression. Don't insult a musician because they don't play the music that you like or they don't play amazingly complicated riffs. Maybe that's just how Pete wants to play. Some people want to play super complicated, fast, shred-speed riffs , and that is fine. For example, Satch is an amazing musician and I love Alexi from Children of Bodom as well as Sinister and Vengence from Avenged Sevenfold, but that is just how they want to play and that works for them. They get their point across and they really inspire me, but a really simple piece can be just as expressive as a complicated piece. Maybe something gets lost in translation between the musician and the listener, but as Einstein taught us, EVERY perspective is on equal terms with EVERY other. And if you really don't understand what I'm saying, then you really need to take time and think about what music REALLY is.

Oh, and it's quite ironic that I took the time to write that long winded thing when I was the one to complain about people waisting their time with posts, but oh well, if I get my point across, I'm happy.

Thats not ironic, its hypocritical. And you didn't get a point across, you just went off on a pseudo-intellectual rant, name dropping Poe, Twain and Einstein as if they were rock stars you've slept with. Do you actually think anyone took the time to read that long squirt of verbal diarrhea?

I did and from what i got from you post is that you didn't.

[washburn0c03]

Confetti wrote:

Santeria420 wrote:

Ravenblacktear wrote:

Well, I may not have much faith in MTV anymore, but I must say that if Pete can get some music back on the station, I will be at least a little bit happy.

I can say more about what people have said in response to this, but I don't really feel like arguing. I'm sad to see that people can't read an interview without the thing breaking down into insulting an individual. I hate alot of bands, but I don't take my precious time to flame them. You are all musicians, and as musicians, you are in it to make music and to express yourself. When you have millions of musicians around the world making music, you have alot of different languages for the same concepts and the same feelings. It is all relative. It is like Poe and Twain. In, my opinion, Poe was such a magnificent writer, but I hate Mark Twain's writing for the most part. But I don't sit around all day flaming Mark Twain or saying that people who read Mark Twain are idiots. People just see things differently, and that is what's wonderful about music, or any form of self-expression. Don't insult a musician because they don't play the music that you like or they don't play amazingly complicated riffs. Maybe that's just how Pete wants to play. Some people want to play super complicated, fast, shred-speed riffs , and that is fine. For example, Satch is an amazing musician and I love Alexi from Children of Bodom as well as Sinister and Vengence from Avenged Sevenfold, but that is just how they want to play and that works for them. They get their point across and they really inspire me, but a really simple piece can be just as expressive as a complicated piece. Maybe something gets lost in translation between the musician and the listener, but as Einstein taught us, EVERY perspective is on equal terms with EVERY other. And if you really don't understand what I'm saying, then you really need to take time and think about what music REALLY is.

Oh, and it's quite ironic that I took the time to write that long winded thing when I was the one to complain about people waisting their time with posts, but oh well, if I get my point across, I'm happy.

Thats not ironic, its hypocritical. And you didn't get a point across, you just went off on a pseudo-intellectual rant, name dropping Poe, Twain and Einstein as if they were rock stars you've slept with. Do you actually think anyone took the time to read that long squirt of verbal diarrhea?


I did and from what i got from you post is that you didn't.

Nicely done Confetti

[David_Bowie=GOD]

Im not gonna bash pete wentz, im just going to say that he and his band wont be the only thing to get music videos back as the majority of what airs on mtv. If any band does that, it wont be them. I dont think one band could even do that. MTV has been going downhill for a long time now and its not gonna stop. I mean they only show like 4 hours of music per day now to start with.

[Addicted2Chaos]

In the 80's and early 90's MTV would play like 10 or 15 videos str8, barely any commercials. you could actually have parties and leave MTV on as your play list. it was all good shit too. van halen, aerosmith, motley crue, guns n roses, ac/dc, sabbath, maiden, priest, ratt, megadeth, alice, SRV, metallica. and they had manly shows like Beavis and Butthead which would ****in' roast bands like fall out boy half the time, and i loved every minute of it. MTV will never be that again.

[pnkr0cker]

washburn0c03 :
Confetti wrote:

Santeria420 wrote:

Ravenblacktear wrote:

Well, I may not have much faith in MTV anymore, but I must say that if Pete can get some music back on the station, I will be at least a little bit happy.

I can say more about what people have said in response to this, but I don't really feel like arguing. I'm sad to see that people can't read an interview without the thing breaking down into insulting an individual. I hate alot of bands, but I don't take my precious time to flame them. You are all musicians, and as musicians, you are in it to make music and to express yourself. When you have millions of musicians around the world making music, you have alot of different languages for the same concepts and the same feelings. It is all relative. It is like Poe and Twain. In, my opinion, Poe was such a magnificent writer, but I hate Mark Twain's writing for the most part. But I don't sit around all day flaming Mark Twain or saying that people who read Mark Twain are idiots. People just see things differently, and that is what's wonderful about music, or any form of self-expression. Don't insult a musician because they don't play the music that you like or they don't play amazingly complicated riffs. Maybe that's just how Pete wants to play. Some people want to play super complicated, fast, shred-speed riffs , and that is fine. For example, Satch is an amazing musician and I love Alexi from Children of Bodom as well as Sinister and Vengence from Avenged Sevenfold, but that is just how they want to play and that works for them. They get their point across and they really inspire me, but a really simple piece can be just as expressive as a complicated piece. Maybe something gets lost in translation between the musician and the listener, but as Einstein taught us, EVERY perspective is on equal terms with EVERY other. And if you really don't understand what I'm saying, then you really need to take time and think about what music REALLY is.

Oh, and it's quite ironic that I took the time to write that long winded thing when I was the one to complain about people waisting their time with posts, but oh well, if I get my point across, I'm happy.

Thats not ironic, its hypocritical. And you didn't get a point across, you just went off on a pseudo-intellectual rant, name dropping Poe, Twain and Einstein as if they were rock stars you've slept with. Do you actually think anyone took the time to read that long squirt of verbal diarrhea?


I did and from what i got from you post is that you didn't.

he wasnt ranting he was comparing. its called an analogy. people on this site are ignorant and closed minded. people who flame and bash fob sound like retards cause they have no clue.

[pnkr0cker]

Addicted2Chaos :
UG should grow a set and not send me warnings for cursing. the only person who commented on what i said agreed with me anyways. Pete Wentz is awful. why is he featured so often?

well not only was it posted, but UG interviewed him themselves so obviously you dont know what your talking about.

[..NEM..]

Renfordoggz wrote:

Pete Wentz has just got a little more respect from me cos he's trying at least and from what he's saying it seems he listens to a variety of music..

Yeah, +1

It's cool that he listens/listened to death metal.

[xXxNiCkxXx]

pete u rock man!

[Addicted2Chaos]

pnkrocker. wtf are YOU talking about? the original comment i made about pete was deleted becuase it was aparently too vulgar. so you dont even know what im saying in that last comment. besides, UG is like MTV, whoever's popular, they'll interview. Pete Wentz is garbage and 99.99% of the ppl who come on this website agree.

[gr33nday1946]

Addicted2Chaos wrote:

pnkrocker. wtf are YOU talking about? the original comment i made about pete was deleted becuase it was aparently too vulgar. so you dont even know what im saying in that last comment. besides, UG is like MTV, whoever's popular, they'll interview. Pete Wentz is garbage and 99.99% of the ppl who come on this website agree.

if hes popular, than obviously more than 0.01% of ppl like him...

[raoulruby]

Yeah Pete might not be the best bassist out there but when any of you have your own multi platinum record selling band, your own tv show, clothes line, record label and whatever else this guy has then bitch about him, but the fact is he has done bloody well for himself as have the rest of Fall Out Boy, its not like they just got big overnight it wasn't really until they released there 3rd album that they became popular, so give the guy a brake.

[elvisrules333]

emad m :
This is about MTV not FOB!
I wonder how you guys hate Pete Wentz and let him ban you from UG for a while.

Don't flame/Don't spam - End of story.


actually this is about pete wentz wanting to change MTV. Which means its about pete. pete is in FOB. which means this is related to FOB. JOKE!!! (well, idk if thats a joke but if i post another "uncool" comment im banned)

[lilscooter11]

Respect for wanting better videos out there, but couldn't they start with their own? One of the things that stopped me being a FOB Fanboy and discover much better music was the fact all their recent videos play the music, then midway through stop and have some silly sequence. This can happen up to 8 times. I watch music tv to essentially listen, and watch secondarily.

I had a similar gripe with Metallica One, but at least it has a true purpose behind the voice, plus they do have a full music version of the video too.

Videos I like at the moment include Himsa - Big Timber and Serj Tankian - Empty Walls as they prove a little bit of thought goes a long way!

[padgea7x]

pete from fob is a jerk. he can't play bass he probaly gets joe to make riffs fo him. he doesn't know how to make exciting vids it's always the same he's got to have a frickin dream in the vids. BFMV and A7X make better vids than fob. But it's not about the vids is it? It's about the frickin song! And Pete culdn't make a frickin kick ass song in a million years!

[heavyprog]

Do you know why people stopped giving a crap about MTV's music videos? The whole music portion has gotten a lot shittier since the early 90s. The only scene that still has some character is the metal scene and most of the people in it are dinosaurs (e.g. Machine Head, Dream Theater, Megadeth).

[mrbounce]

hmm let me see:

doesn't think a good bass tone should be based on how rich you are
CHECK

wants to put better videos back into music television
CHECK

100% admits that FOB is the only reason why he's popular and has influence
CHECK

what the **** is your problem, guys?

[DarkDallasNight]

Good for Pete besides for being married to Ashlee Hotass Simpson

[GNRAGE_2010]

Matt Freeman>Pete wentz

[isabiggles]

Hitler > Pete Wentz

Take that back. Hitler is just worse.

[schizz]

Noverion wrote:

Wow, interesting to see that he used to do some death metal!
I dont really like the guy, but people take the whole thing way too damn far, hes just a musician trying to make money right? Trying to make a living

He's not a musician though, he's an advertisement.

[schizz]

gr33nday1946 wrote:

Addicted2Chaos wrote:

pnkrocker. wtf are YOU talking about? the original comment i made about pete was deleted becuase it was aparently too vulgar. so you dont even know what im saying in that last comment. besides, UG is like MTV, whoever's popular, they'll interview. Pete Wentz is garbage and 99.99% of the ppl who come on this website agree.
if hes popular, than obviously more than 0.01% of ppl like him...

Teenage girls (and boys of course) like him, not people who like music.

[Santeria420]

Confetti wrote:

Santeria420 wrote:

Ravenblacktear wrote:

Well, I may not have much faith in MTV anymore, but I must say that if Pete can get some music back on the station, I will be at least a little bit happy.

I can say more about what people have said in response to this, but I don't really feel like arguing. I'm sad to see that people can't read an interview without the thing breaking down into insulting an individual. I hate alot of bands, but I don't take my precious time to flame them. You are all musicians, and as musicians, you are in it to make music and to express yourself. When you have millions of musicians around the world making music, you have alot of different languages for the same concepts and the same feelings. It is all relative. It is like Poe and Twain. In, my opinion, Poe was such a magnificent writer, but I hate Mark Twain's writing for the most part. But I don't sit around all day flaming Mark Twain or saying that people who read Mark Twain are idiots. People just see things differently, and that is what's wonderful about music, or any form of self-expression. Don't insult a musician because they don't play the music that you like or they don't play amazingly complicated riffs. Maybe that's just how Pete wants to play. Some people want to play super complicated, fast, shred-speed riffs , and that is fine. For example, Satch is an amazing musician and I love Alexi from Children of Bodom as well as Sinister and Vengence from Avenged Sevenfold, but that is just how they want to play and that works for them. They get their point across and they really inspire me, but a really simple piece can be just as expressive as a complicated piece. Maybe something gets lost in translation between the musician and the listener, but as Einstein taught us, EVERY perspective is on equal terms with EVERY other. And if you really don't understand what I'm saying, then you really need to take time and think about what music REALLY is.

Oh, and it's quite ironic that I took the time to write that long winded thing when I was the one to complain about people waisting their time with posts, but oh well, if I get my point across, I'm happy.

Thats not ironic, its hypocritical. And you didn't get a point across, you just went off on a pseudo-intellectual rant, name dropping Poe, Twain and Einstein as if they were rock stars you've slept with. Do you actually think anyone took the time to read that long squirt of verbal diarrhea?

I did and from what i got from you post is that you didn't.

The closest thing he made to a point could be summed up as "different strokes for different folks." But no, he had to drag Poe and Einstein into it over the course of some hundred words. If you're a pretentious half-wit thats fine, but don't dirty the names of great minds. And please don't subject the rest of us to your ranting.

[dangerdan92]

i cant believe people would actually stick up for this guy??... i mean come on i know local musicians that have shred everyday at local bars for the past 20 years that actually know there instrument and that have gone to berklee for there instruments and here comes this pop punk homo totally throwin musicianship down the shitter gettin rich and all this shit on mtv.. i totally agree with addicted2chaos.. and im also tired of seein the girls in my school looking at those ****in teen magazines and gettin off too pete wentz sayin hes awesome and talented but they laugh at me when i have joe satriani and john petrucci on my binder because they think that joe satriani and john petrucci are ugly??? yeah that pisses me off cause i didnt think musicianship was based on if your hot or ugly!!

[Confetti]

dangerdan92 wrote:

i cant believe people would actually stick up for this guy??... i mean come on i know local musicians that have shred everyday at local bars for the past 20 years that actually know there instrument and that have gone to berklee for there instruments and here comes this pop punk homo totally throwin musicianship down the shitter gettin rich and all this shit on mtv.. i totally agree with addicted2chaos.. and im also tired of seein the girls in my school looking at those ****in teen magazines and gettin off too pete wentz sayin hes awesome and talented but they laugh at me when i have joe satriani and john petrucci on my binder because they think that joe satriani and john petrucci are ugly??? yeah that pisses me off cause i didnt think musicianship was based on if your hot or ugly!!

Yeah! The only true reason for laughing at John Petrucci is his total lack of originality.

Every single musician has a point that is laughable, but that is not a good reason to rant about it all over the internet.
Not even Pete Wentz. When the guy does something good he should be braiced. Like trying to get music back on MTV. I personally hate his music and the image that he has greated for the band. Doesn't mean that everybody likes to hear me bitching about it in every article he pops out.

[Addicted2Chaos]

if no one said anything, than nothing would change.

[24fretsftw]

Everyone seems to pick faults with this guy, I have no problem with him, and I don't like FOB. He's just a bassist in a band.

Now he's being victimised for apparently being bad at bass? How the hell do you know that? His music only limits his bass to certain levels, outside of the band, I'm sure he's a hell of a lot better. Average rhythm guitarists will play basic boring progression after progression, yet they are usually still talented at playing the guitar. I feel the same goes for Pete.

And hey, like Addicted2Chaos said, if no one said anything, nothing would change, good on him for trying to get MTV back to its golden days.

[XxPunkMafiaxX]

Fuck MTV, Fuck Pete Wentz, both are utter piles of shit on our modern society, but at least someone finally has stood up and said "Fuck this shit, we need more videos on MTV." i bet most people here bashing him would do the same thing, but arent famous enough so it wouldnt work. so all of you shut the **** up and think about that...then follow each other to an actual FOB forum and bash them there
....i may join you

checked. quit bitching, it is annoying. if he is trying to put music back onto MTV, we, as musicians, should get behind that idealism.

[KasanDude]

TTwoo wrote:

I gave up on MTV a long time ago.

This.

As far as bass playing goes, I think Mark Hoppus is a thousand times better than Wentz. For one, he doesn't play just root notes all the time. For another, he actually looks cool playing the instrument.