The Devil Wears Prada: 'We Wanted To Make A Heavy Metal Record'

Doing what seems to be a rite of passage for any rock band on the music scene today, The Devil Wears Prada has spent the summer making their mark on the festival circuit. The big event for the metalcore band’s six members was the tried-and-true Warped Tour, which given the changing set times and high volume of bands, could be considered one of the most rigorous festivals. Guitarist Jeremy DePoyster hasn’t minded a little extra work, however, as the tour finally provided him an opportunity to play a good chunk of The Devil Wears Prada’s latest record, With Roots Above And Branches Below.

In a recent interview with Ultimate-Guitar, DePoyster emphasized that the new album marked another step away from being pigeonholed simply as "screamo." After all, it was the band’s mission to embrace more of a full-fledged metal sound than ever before. In this exclusive interview, DePoyster discussed the methods used to accomplish this goal and what kind of role the band’s Christian beliefs played in the songwriting process.

UG: This summer marks another round of the Warped Tour for you. I hear mixed reactions from bands about that particular tour, usually because your set times change day to day and soundchecks rarely happen. What has been your experience?

Jeremy DePoyster: We did it last year, so we kind of knew what we were getting into when we did it this year. I don’t know. It’s definitely one of the hardest tours to do, just because it’s so long – especially at this point in the tour, where you’re kind of getting cabin fever and you’re ready to go home for a little bit. The shows are so awesome that it doesn’t really matter.

Do you think the fans’ enthusiasm for Warped Tour is still in place? Do you notice any difference in the crowds?

When I was a kid and when I was like 15, it seemed pretty much the same. I think it has stayed pretty relevant with whatever is big. A lot of people go, “Oh, it’s not a punk rock tour anymore, blah, blah, blah.” I don’t think that it is too relevant anymore. I don’t think people are really doing it as much anymore, and I think all the bands that are on there are pretty relevant.

"I think all the beliefs come from the lyrics and just the way we live our lives."

With your latest album With Roots Above and Branches Below, would you say that every band member was on the same page as far as what musical direction you wanted to take?

I think so. I think we definitely went into it knowing that almost every band with every record gets lighter or MTV familiar. We were just like, “Screw that. We’re not going to do that. We’re just going to make an even heavier record.” I think at the same time there are more bands doing the kind of style that we’re doing now than when we first started doing it. A lot of them are doing scene core and stuff. We never set out to be a band like that. We tried to be a metal band. For whatever reason, the Hot Topic crowd latched on. We wanted to make a heavy metal record. I think that was the ultimate goal. It was to keep our sound, but make it more of a metal record than it was before.

I had read a quote from one member of the band mentioning that there was an effort to get completely away from the screamo genre and become full-fledged metalcore. Were you particularly bothered by those who pigeonholed The Devil Wears Prada as screamo?

Yeah. I mean…It’s whatever. I don’t really care, but when I think of screamo I think of Hawthorne Heights or something like that. Maybe Chiodos. I don’t feel like our band sounds anything like those bands. We share a lot of the same fans. I don’t think our music is screamo. Metalcore is the perfect word for it, I think. People will go, “Well, there’s singing in it.” I’m like, “I don’t know. Have you ever heard of Judas Priest?” It’s not un-metal to have singing in your music!

I’d like to talk about a few of the songs off the new album. How would you contrast the songwriting process of tracks like “Sassafras” and “Dez Moines”? Did those two particular songs take shape in fairly distinct ways?

That’s actually absolutely right. We wrote “Dez Moines” when we were in this practice space that we rent out that’s basically like a warehouse. We rented a room in it and just set up all our crap in there. That’s where we wrote lots of stuff. I think parts of it were written on demos that we did on various tours. They were just really rough demos. We took that, and then when we went to our writing studio, we shaped that song around those demos. We have two songs called “HTML Rulez d00d” and “Hey John” on our last record. They’re kind of like almost single-worthy. There is just a certain feel to them. We kind of approached that song with that same idea in mind.

“Sassafras” was actually written mostly in the studio to riffs that Chris had written but we never did anything with. We went into the studio and we had 10 songs. I think we actually went in with nine songs, and then we finished writing that one in the studio. “Sassafras” was just actually these riffs that Chris wrote. He scratch tracked them in, and then we changed stuff around. I wrote that progression in it, and then we did that end breakdown thing. That was pieced together kind of in the same way, but in a totally different environment. It was more Chris and Joey, our producer, and then me on a lot of parts.

When you’re on the road, do you have a multi-track recorder set up for demo use on the tour bus?

We do a lot of recording on Logic. I have like a Duet interface and Chris has a Line 6 thing. We’re always demoing out stuff like that. As guitar players, we both always have musical stuff going on. When we go to write the record, we take a lot of things and piece them together into real songs. Even right now, he and I are still writing some other songs, just to have them for when we go to do another record. They’re usually only a minute-and-a-half to a two-minute demo idea of a song that gets totally molded around something really different by the time the record comes around. It’s kind of cool to be able to listen to the demos that you had and then what they turn into. Sometimes you’re like, “What was I thinking?”

"I don’t think our music is screamo. Metalcore is the perfect word for it, I think."

Do you have quite a bit of material leftover from your Roots Above and Branches Below sessions?

I think we probably only have like one or two little demos that we didn’t use on that record, but I know that we’re already starting to write some new stuff. Sitting around on a bus all day, the creative energy starts to flow. I think we’re really trying, even as we write, to do even more metal. I’m still trying to get this CD exposed to as many people as we can before we even do that.

Do you have a pretty straightforward equipment setup for the studio and the road?

Actually, it’s a bit different. It’s modeled the same. On the road, I use a Marshall JCM 800 and a Peavey 6505. Both are going into Mesa cabs. Chris uses a Peavey and a Mesa triple rec going into Mesa cabs. We both have this new Line 6 pedal. I forget what it’s called. It’s like the newest pedal that they have that has all the models on it, but you can turn them off and use it almost as a pedalboard. It has all these delays and stuff. We were going to use the green delay pedal that Line 6 has, but it only has three presets on it, I think.

When we did our tour with Underoath, Tim was showing me this pedal that actually has unlimited presets on it. There are like 1,000 presets or something. So we just turn off the amp models, and then use that as the delay, noisegate, and compressor. We both have an Ibanez TS-9 Tube Screamer. That’s our live setup, which is similar for both of us.

In the studio, everything we did was using that Line 6 POD Farm through cab sims. There’s this other thing – I forget what it’s called – but it basically models a real acoustic environment. We just ran models of the same thing that we use live. It’s also kind of cool because then we could use some Fender models, Soldano models, and stuff like that. We would never have been able to get that much gear. I like to be on a tight budget! I’m not trying to spend a million dollars on a bunch of gear when I already have it at my fingertips. The POD Farm models are so good now that if you have a really good engineer you can make it sound exactly the same.

Are you still primarily using Schecter guitars?

As far as touring goes, yeah. We both use strictly Schecters. Andy uses Fender basses.

Did you experiment with any new tunings on the latest album?

Nothing really unusual. We did a drop D on seven songs. Then we did four songs in drop B tuning. That was something we had never done. Chris and I, we just wanted to sound a little heavier. We were just joking around like, “Oh, maybe we should tune it to B.” Then we were like, “I don’t know. That’s kind of cool.” We actually ended up writing four of them that way.

One song that particularly stood out to me was “Lord Xenu,” which is an obvious reference to the Church of Scientology. Given that The Devil Wears Prada is a Christian band, has the topic of Scientology been a subject of interest/debate for you?

I don’t know. I don’t want to get put on a hit list or anything! Scientology, to me, is kind of a weird thing. I’m all for freedom of religion and stuff like that, but for some reason I think of Scientology as a far stretch from that, requiring all these mass amounts of money to become a member of this religion. Then Lord Xenu and all this nonsense – it just seems silly to me. It’s just kind of a funny stab at it, I guess. It’s really just to kind of make fun of it!

"We tried to be a metal band."

Would you say that the Christian themes are still a driving force of your lyrical content?

Lyrically, Mike said that he wrote the last two records with the intent of saying, “This is who we are. This is what we believe.” He went into this record saying, “We’ve already told you what we believe. If you are going through similar beliefs or similar struggles, here is how we’ve dealt with them. Let me help you with that.” I know that it was a little bit lyrically different for him. Even more so than before, everything is really strongly Christian influenced. As far as the music goes, obviously I’m not like, “Oh, this guitar riff really sounds Christian.” The music is just about music in its art. I think all the beliefs come from the lyrics and just the way we live our lives.

The new album was released on Ferret Records versus the Rise label this time around. Did that allow you more creative freedom?

The only real difference is the amount of resources available to Ferret. They have ties to Warner. Our last ties were to Victory, which is good, but having ties with a major label is awesome. You still get the freedom of being on an independent label, where nobody is telling you what to do, but you still have the resources to get your CD out there to more places. As far as the next record goes, we’ll have more flexibility with producers and stuff like that. We were signed to Ferret a long time before we announced it, but we didn’t really see anything from it until we put out the record. They’ve definitely pushed it a lot and done a lot of cool stuff with it.

Do you have a solid touring schedule for the coming months?

Yeah, we need to go over to Europe, which we’re actually doing after this. We’re doing a tour with Enter Shikari over there and doing our own thing in mainland Europe. We’re doing a full tour over here. Next spring we’re going to do a Soundwave Festival. After that, we’re going to try and do a bigger support tour, supporting a much bigger band so that we can get out to a new audience. I don’t know. We’ll probably just tour the crap out of this record!

Interview by Amy Kelly
Ultimate-Guitar.Com © 2009

Comments

[-tempest-]

i love this band. decent interview.

[CtrlZ]

I liked their older stuff more, I don't mind that they are a christian band, but this album seemed more preachy to me, and less metal. Also it's funny how he can't see that christianity is just as rediculous as scientology haha.

[henkka_potku]

"We tried to be a metal band." LOL
Also, the band name is stupid.
Christian metalcore isn't exactly the genre I would start to play if I started a band

[xicetraex]

Heavy metal? Come the **** on.

[Relativiti]

tdwp rocks! gimme halfffff!

[eyebanez333]

The screaming in their music is decent enough...but the clean vocals sound pretty lame.

[-tempest-]

Relativiti wrote:

tdwp rocks! gimme halfffff!

thats my favorite song off of "roots"

[Noverion]

Never heard them before, so just hit them up on spotify. The first song managed to merge into the second, i think. But I definitely like it. Its not exactly metal, reminds me of a less sophisticated Between the buried and me, which is a definately a compliment. Admire their beliefs as well, then again i am a chrisian so thats a given, but that they dont mind talking about it when especially in the metal setting its easy to get ridiculed, good for them.

[igomoosh]

If you're not a fan...why even bother?

[igomoosh]

You want a hardcore christian band? Look up Impending Doom

[igomoosh]

just a thought here but maybe its called "the devil wears prada" because one they are a christian band and two...why not make fun of satan by insinuating that he wears designer fashions? just a thought.

[Stitches.]

It's just a name,so what? Doesn't make the band any worse and whoever said that Mike is terrible at screaming, fails. He is one of the best vocalists out right now.

[bradyg]

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

[gtdude114]

I'm still trying to figure out why the people that do not like these guys are even on this page, let alone commenting on the interview with the guitarist? I want to know!!

..btw, I love Big Wiggly Style.

[almosthuman36]

I think this band does a good job of being metal, maybe not "metalcore", but definitely some subgenre I'm sure some overcritical prick could tell me.

[multipleofone]

Their first two albums were generic as hell metalcore albums. The guitar work sucks and there is an over reliance in breakdowns.

They progressed so much on this album. While the breakdowns are still present, they're not as rhythmically simple. There are guitar leads which are always great. And there are actually some decent, catchy riffs (a first for TDWP).

This is a really good album

[NemX162]

UG members are too critical, especially if a genre is brought up.

[-tempest-]

multipleofone wrote:

Their first two albums were generic as hell metalcore albums. The guitar work sucks and there is an over reliance in breakdowns.

They progressed so much on this album. While the breakdowns are still present, they're not as rhythmically simple. There are guitar leads which are always great. And there are actually some decent, catchy riffs (a first for TDWP).

This is a really good album

strangly enough i thought the same exact thing about and didn't bother with them for a while. then my friend said the new album was good so i bought it already having plagues and i ended up enjoying plagues more and than the new album

[Rob Hereticae]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

Oh dear god I think that was the greatest troll post I've ever seen.

You sir, get a 5/5.

Checked. Dear god, stop the band flaming already. If you don't like this band, just ignore the article and don't comment on it.

[XenititesX]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

August burns red is much better.

[insomniac38]

Saw em live once and i didn't really care for them. They sound like every other hot topic screamo band out there. They played a cover of still fly by big tymers which i thought was pretty funny. They also autotune the shit out of the clean vocals on their recordings which i can't really stand.

[DaysoftheBlue]

The only reason people call them "Screamo" is because they dont know what screamo is. Theyve always been shitty metalcore

[PissInMyShoeses]

"I think so. I think we definitely went into it knowing that almost every band with every record gets lighter or MTV familiar. We were just like, “Screw that. We’re not going to do that. We’re just going to make an even heavier record.”

I love how he thinks they're being innovative. Every single metal band these days says their new record is heavier than anything they've done.

P.S. every positive comment about this band is a troll

[Tedward]

CtrlZ wrote:

I liked their older stuff more, I don't mind that they are a christian band, but this album seemed more preachy to me, and less metal. Also it's funny how he can't see that christianity is just as rediculous as scientology haha.

wrong. Christianity is a Religion, and scientology is a business.

As much as I dislike elitism and genre-bashing and stuff, I agree these guys will never be "metal". Ever.

In a way I think that their fans are their downfall.

[jerrybeansman22]

"What's this song called? 'Html Rulez D00d'?....Oh yeah, Jesus!!!"

*facepalm*

[CtrlZ]

Tedward wrote:
wrong. Christianity is a Religion, and scientology is a business.

Well they both believe in invisible magical beings and rake in massive sums of cash, so forgive me for being confused about the difference. Anyways, back to the band, I agree they won't ever be true "Metal", but they had some good stuff back before this album as far as christian metal goes. Them and ZAO are the best in that genre, even though ZAO is no longer considered a christian band since their album "funeral of god" pretty much scared all the believers away TDWP probably have a good live show too, even though as someone pointed out, their fans are the worst thing about that scene.

[TisPyon]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

Between The Buried and Me
Protest The Hero...
your welcome

[TisPyon]

igomoosh wrote:

just a thought here but maybe its called "the devil wears prada" because one they are a christian band and two...why not make fun of satan by insinuating that he wears designer fashions? just a thought.

it was a book before the band was made .. just throwing that out there

[Brainfart]

Amen Bradyg! Christian metal Rox satan ass to the ground!

[ReaperWaits]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

That's the funniest ****ing thing I think i've ever, Ever read on UG. Metallica and Megadeth are sell-outs? Yeahh okay.
At least both bands were good for a few years before releasing a crap album each, funny. TDWP seem to have it the other way around.

[Freebird79]

Well if he wants to be considered heavy metal, a good first step would to get rid of those faggy sunglasses and look like a man. Fuck this band, I'm gonna go listen to Endgame...

[Caleb27s]

BBBBEEEEEAAAASSSSSTTTT ive always liked scremo but ive always liked hevy metal more. and ive always liked what they stood for.
ive never relly thought of scientology church like that. he has some relly good points there. what do you think?

[cdek12309]

The uhh band name comes from the movie The Devil Wears Prada, but i think the way they use the name has to do with alot of their songs. liek alot of there songs talk about how bad fashion is, i think what they mean by tht is fashion creates confidence in a bad way and changes people dramatically sometimes. they talk about keeping to your faith and stuff. So basically the name is like saying tht the devil(bad stuff ) and wears prada(fasion in their terms) is just a statement
B.A, Band!!!!

[fretman5000]

how do they think theyre not screamo when they scream in their songs??? thats what screamo is. this band aint even close to heavy metal, no screaming=good tdrp doesnt even know what kind of genre they are. how does anyone like this band? screamo is like modern day disco, its popular to some ppl and a lot of ppl hate it, and itll die off in a decade or so
rock on!

[MetalBass 77]

cdek: not to start a fight or anything but i find your reasoning for their band name to be ironic *if true* If they say fashion is bad then why do they spend the time/money to dye and straighten their hair. also why do they spend the money on stupid bug glasses. once again i dont judge people, but if that band title is true, its hypocrisy in its rawest form.

[romencer17]

bradyg wrote:
I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now,

oh yeah, we all forgot that a bands talent depends on how popular they are!

[MedicalHouse]

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.

[ToxicDonkey]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

lol Leading band in the nation? WTF are you on dude? Nothing against TDWP, not saying I like them, but I can stand them, but still, they are nowhere near the leading metal band, I will name 10 bands that are better AND bigger (in no particular order):
- Lamb of God
- Machine Head
- Metallica
- Megadeth
- Killswitch Engage
- As I Lay Dying
- Mastodon
- All That Remains
- Job for A Cowboy
- In Flames
And I could think of MANY more!

[das_drummer]

is it necessary to bash religon Im not cristian but if some people make songs that other people like (not a big fan of tdwp myself) why argue over religon or music whatever you like you like dont f*cking push your opinion on to other people you come out as *******s

[SideshowRaven24]

PissInMyShoeses wrote:
P.S. every positive comment about this band is a troll

Not true. I legitimately enjoy them as guitar players, and I think the vocals are really good. People are way, WAAAAY to assertive about music these days. Music is art, a form of entertainment. You don't have to like every band, but getting actually PISSED about their style of music just seems ridiculous to me. I'm not defending them, there's no reason to, I'm just saying that there's way too much anger in music fans these days. Moral of the story: if you don't like it, leave it alone.

[rickyj]

MedicalHouse wrote:

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.

lol i would say scientology is a little bit more ridiculous than christianity

[StatutoryMike]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

-Opeth
-Atheist
-Cynic
-The Faceless
-Between the Buried and Me
-Meshuggah
-Psycroptic
-Necrophagist
-The Black Dahlia Murder
-Cattle Decapitation
-Psyopus
-Scale the Summit
-Skeletonwitch

...want more?

[shut_up_n00b]

I'd respect them more if they didn't set out to be "metal". It's just as silly as saying "we're gonna sell for hot topic".

[halfbrainhunter]

People actually consider TDWP screamo?
Real screamo bands are:
-Neil Perry
-Joshua Fit For Battle
- Loma Prieta
-City of Caterpillar
-Orchid
-Saetia
-Pg. 99
etc.

TDWP is amazing by the way. i dont get all the hating on bands on this site. if you dont like their music why click on their article?

[.Joker.]

I really don't know what people can say is wrong with the band? It really doesn't make sense to me lol
But everyone has their opinion
I do have to laugh at "leading the nation" though, but i have to laugh at even more of some peoples lists

[Trayton]

TDWP is One of my favorite bands ever and this new album isnt as good as there others but its still a great album and im glad there getting there religion out and Big Wiggly Style kicks %^$

[BLUEkerl]

I just read a comment that called metaliica sell-outs. that would perfectly fine to say in the time period of 91 to 97. after that they went straight back to metal

[rocnroll4evr93]

Spoony_Bard wrote:

Not gonna lie, this band is pretty awful.

+1.

[nickpenner26]

Firstly I want to say this band is talented, saying they suck and are not "metal" and then listing a bunch of bands, isn't going to change someones mind. If you don't like them fine! But ,you one person, cannot say they suck.
There are no shortages in spiritual debate forums anywhere. but there seems to be a lot of people posting who don't understand what a real christian is, and as a christian I cannot ignore that. looking at Christianity as a religion is not really accurate, this story from the bible will sum it up. In the times of Jesus, there was a crowd of people who were going to have and adulterer stoned to death, as they did back then. Jesus said to them let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. The crowd represents "religion" and Jesus Christ is the only Man who ever lived that did not ever sin.

[In The Mist]

CtrlZ wrote:

I liked their older stuff more, I don't mind that they are a christian band, but this album seemed more preachy to me, and less metal. Also it's funny how he can't see that christianity is just as rediculous as scientology haha.

Take it from a former Catholic, Christianity is no where near as high on the ridiculous scale as scientology.

[DudeI'mOnAlesse]

if you dont like the music, why bother clicking this article to comment on it? i think finding a band you dont like and looking them up just to hate on them is stupid,UNLESS, its a band like brokencyde, that is not music

[bwalter32]

When did these guys become metal? Some people need some schooling.

[metal4ursoul]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

List of better fan bases:
Slayer
cannibal corpse
deicide

Things wrong with your statement:
1. tdwp is not metal, they just said that they were trying to be metal
2. Metalcore sucks

[ty0515]

The Devil Wears Prada is my favorite band but if the decide to become full fledged metal i will have to move on, metal to me is long dirty haired men playing heavy piecey riffs not dudes with black hair and straighteners and skinny jeans.

[BlitzkriegAir]

cant believe theyd compare themselves to Judas Priest, who are they to think they can hold a candle to the metal gods

[Shreddinator666]

insomniac38 wrote:

Saw em live once and i didn't really care for them. They sound like every other hot topic screamo band out there. They played a cover of still fly by big tymers which i thought was pretty funny. They also autotune the shit out of the clean vocals on their recordings which i can't really stand.

That cover was funny as hell.

[HolyDiver1118]

To Romancer17, true true sir. You're comment made me laugh

To ToxicDonkey, very true I definitely agree with your list of metal bands.

I've always hated these guys, but at the same time I want to not judge them and at least be educated about their music. For the life of me, I can not find any Christian-related lyrics in the songs that I've listened to, except for Assistant to the General Manger (i think that's it I don't know for sure though)

[Disturbdkornkid]

"We tried to be a metal band."

And you failed.

[Jon777]

Disturbdkornkid wrote:

"We tried to be a metal band."

And you failed.

Agreed, but that doesn't diminish the fact that they're great musicians and put out some good music.

[DwizzleDizzle]

never liked em...dont kno why anybody does

[KurdtStaley]

Tedward wrote:

CtrlZ wrote:

I liked their older stuff more, I don't mind that they are a christian band, but this album seemed more preachy to me, and less metal. Also it's funny how he can't see that christianity is just as rediculous as scientology haha.

wrong. Christianity is a Religion, and scientology is a business.

As much as I dislike elitism and genre-bashing and stuff, I agree these guys will never be "metal". Ever.

In a way I think that their fans are their downfall.

Wrong Christianity is completely a business. Just because you believe in it doesn't make it any less of one. Many many people are making a living off of Christianity.

[cobainAnselmo]

alright, this band tried to be a metal band?

Just cut off your shitty hair..
Take off your skinny pants..
Add more solos and technicue on your album and get off your screamo singing...

That's a METAL band...

[KurdtStaley]

nickpenner26 wrote:
There are no shortages in spiritual debate forums anywhere. but there seems to be a lot of people posting who don't understand what a real christian is, and as a christian I cannot ignore that. looking at Christianity as a religion is not really accurate, this story from the bible will sum it up. In the times of Jesus, there was a crowd of people who were going to have and adulterer stoned to death, as they did back then. Jesus said to them let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. The crowd represents "religion" and Jesus Christ is the only Man who ever lived that did not ever sin.

Your story makes no sense, and your attempt at an analogy makes less sense. It's people like you who justify level headed people like myself saying Christianity is as ridiculous as Scientology. Perhaps if you said something like "Christianity is about the moral beliefs and the life style choices, whether it's stories are true or not doesn't really make a difference" then someone could take you seriously. But if you believed that you'd have no reason to be Christian because Christian teaching is so horribly ineffective that the moral beliefs get left by the wayside well the delusion and nonsense take center stage.

[Vedicardi]

pretty terrible band. If you want to tell people how to deal with THEIR problems write a book about it?

also epic irony @ christians making fun of xenu

[Shinsen88]

This was their best album yet for sure. Lotsa cool stuff going on. And seriously, this album does lean closer to metal than their previous work. It even says in the interview that it's metal CORE. They're not trying to be Metallica.

Also, lol at the self-righteous people who bash Christianity because bashing it is the trendy thing to do.

[ozzynator]

lol what a joke, the only place these guys will ever be Metal is in there dreams !

[CrossBack7]

Wow, everyone needs to stop being morons here. Personally, I'm not Christian, I still like some of the music and respect the energy they put into it. Who cares if they call themselves "metal" or a bunch of whiny emo fags?

You all say they suck, but don't really give any valid reasons. Somebody said their screaming sucks, which I disagree with, there's much worse out there. Can tell they do probably autotune recording, so I sort of agree there. Yeah, no doubt that they can't compare to Lamb of God, Meshuggah, etc, but take them for what they're worth, damn. . .

Their cover of Still Fly is really fun to play.

[some.will.seek]

Umm, I haven't read half of the posts that are already up, but...

The name, The Devil Wears Prada, is mearly using the statement that 'The Devil is The Angel of Light', i.e That he appears to be your best friend, but he in a disguise and wants you to think that.

Umm, so yeah, the name merely is commenting on the fact that satan dresses up in 'clothing' and makes himself appear good to you.

YAY:- This band is great. Don't pay them out for being Christian guys, they do this because they know that Metal is a genre that needs some saving! They want to show non-christians that Christians aren't all about boring rules and rudiments, and that you can still love God and be in a metal band.

Also, those who are saying 'these guys are a bunch of homo idiots who don't know what metal is.' Get over yourselves...seriously. Who the hell cares? Metal or Not...LISTEN TO THE BLOODY MUSIC.

[jerrybeansman22]

ok i take back anything ive ever said bad about this band...i just got back from a concert and Bring me the horizon takes the cake for "Worst crap ever"...it was like i was watching "Hot Topic: The Band"

[samr_punkrocker]

You guys are ridiculous saying that it's 'ironic' for Christians to pay out Xenu. Scientology started off this century by some random guy. All the money that Christianity 'rake' in goes back into the church, unless there corrupt.
The Devil Wears Prada ARE metal. Everyone just is so obsessed with sub genres. Heavy instruments, played fast. Thats metal in a nutshell.
Now stop arguing, you're the whiney bitches, not them.

Checked.

[good_blink_plan]

henkka_potku wrote:

"We tried to be a metal band." LOL
Also, the band name is stupid.
Christian metalcore isn't exactly the genre I would start to play if I started a band

....so? are we meant to care what genre you'd play if you were in a band? this articles not about you, it's about The Devil Wears Prada.

[screamaimfire99]

great and interesting interview TDWP rule!!!

[Jordmo]

TisPyon wrote:

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

Between The Buried and Me
Protest The Hero...
your welcome

How about The Arusha Accord?
They are waaaay more hectic and technical.

[Jordmo]

ToxicDonkey wrote:

bradyg wrote:

lol Leading band in the nation? WTF are you on dude? Nothing against TDWP, not saying I like them, but I can stand them, but still, they are nowhere near the leading metal band, I will name 10 bands that are better AND bigger (in no particular order):
- Lamb of God
- Machine Head
- Metallica
- Megadeth
- Killswitch Engage
- As I Lay Dying
- Mastodon
- All That Remains
- Job for A Cowboy
- In Flames
And I could think of MANY more!

God. You haven't lived.
There are so many bands out there.
Try 'Throats' 'Trap Them' 'Manuscripts' 'Crocus'

Seriously. So so underrated.

[larrytheguitar]

Since everyone else is seemingly pouring their heart out in the comments, I'll give it a try.

I like this band. And I honestly didn't even know they were Christian until now. Their first album Dear Love, was great. Good, kind of "indie"ish metalcore. Then Plagues came out and the upped the ante a little, and the scream have improved greatly.

With this new album, I'm not a big fan. There's song great tracks, and some horrible ones. The screams changed a bit and I don't like them as much as Plagues, but as far as guitarwork goes, this album is the best they've ever done. And this is a guitar website right?

[samr_punkrocker]

Your a legend larry,

this is a guitar site, and they have amazing guitar parts in their songs.

[Unskathed]

I lol'd pretty hard at the "This riff sounds really Christian!" part.
People need to quit making such a big deal over what bands sing about. You may thinking singing about being a Christian is stupid, but can you seriously tell me that Glen Benton sounds LESS stupid when he sings about Satan?

[Firering56]

I first heard this band on headbangers ball a few weeks ago.
and to me, it was like chewing gum.
Awsome and soft at first then TASTELESS and tough .
This band has no musical talent.
at least to MY ears.
But people of the new generation are exposed to crappy music such as this, and then have no ear for REAL talent.
they think bands like this is heavy metal, but what it really is, (is) unrecognisable lyrics, so distorted by a man who cant sng (or a teenager, whatever the hell he is) and detuned guitars.

I do, however, recognize the guitar work, which is hardly intrquite, and i think it sounds good.
If they were to have a different way of singing, like not screamo and ummm..... what would you callit? growly? and an emo crybaby sing a few parts, mabey replace that kind of singing with someone who has a deeper voice.
And now that ive said what i feel about this band, im going critisize something i saw up there in the article.
i think that Jeremy DePoyster just copared his own singing style to that of Judas Priest.

and the answer to that is
Hell no. Hell Fucking no.

Judas Priest is WAY different from this band.

WAY WAY different.
I dont think i can discribe my frustration towards that .. comment of his.

Priest is reall metal, not fake metal like this band.

i rest my case.

snooch to the nooch

[Metalmangini]

ok first of all they will never be metal they are just gay screamo. 2 if they wanted to be metal they should have picked such a gay not metal name. 3 they dont look metal in the least bit.

[UK4tw]

Christianity is a belief, like Scientology and Atheism are beliefs. In my opinion, I don't think religious based beliefs have much of a part to play in todays society given what we know. I think a lot of bands go down the whole Christianity route because of the potential fan base, especially in America - land of the biggest Christian morons in the world.

TDWP are an average 'metalcore' band to me, not really that interesting. There are many more interesting metalcore bands to listen to e.g. Between The Buried And Me, August Burns Red, Misery Signals (probably the freshest sounding metalcore band around imo).

[EpiExplorer]

some.will.seek wrote:

Umm, I haven't read half of the posts that are already up, but...

The name, The Devil Wears Prada, is mearly using the statement that 'The Devil is The Angel of Light', i.e That he appears to be your best friend, but he in a disguise and wants you to think that.

Umm, so yeah, the name merely is commenting on the fact that satan dresses up in 'clothing' and makes himself appear good to you.

YAY:- This band is great. Don't pay them out for being Christian guys, they do this because they know that Metal is a genre that needs some saving! They want to show non-christians that Christians aren't all about boring rules and rudiments, and that you can still love God and be in a metal band.

Also, those who are saying 'these guys are a bunch of homo idiots who don't know what metal is.' Get over yourselves...seriously. Who the hell cares? Metal or Not...LISTEN TO THE BLOODY MUSIC.

really they just stole the name from a book.. honestly, theres no such thing as originality anymore. Its either stolen from Lord of the Rings or is an amalgamation of words that sound utterly rubbish. 'Iwrestledabearonce' Coulda been a lil' more serious o.O

[handbanana78]

I dont like this band, idk it just not for me i guess;however, I like the interview he seems like a kool guy.

[CtrlZ]

This thread is epic entertainment, thanks guys
Just one of the many reasons I visit this site.

[Adam124]

I don't see why people have to argue if they suck or not? I think they are a great band so that's my lovely comment done for today.

[joshgrwk]

holy shit. time to relax, people. first off, do a bit of research. the book came out, the band liked the name, and used it. THEN the movie came out. no deep reasoning, they just thought it tied in well. promise. this band is okay live, jeremy isn't that good of a singer, your autotune suspicions are correct. but, they still put on a fun show for scene kids to run into each other at. lawl. frankly, i could care less about them. they are just a generic metalcore-screamo-WHATEVER band. there are a million bands just like them. and, the christian thing could be bullshit. maybe not with these guys, but alot of bands are liars. they know by saying they're christian, they have a built-in fanbase (the passion of the christ, anyone?). anyway, tdwp is nothing special, they're like a dokken, or warrant in the 80's. i'd rather hear norma jean.

[joshgrwk]

Metalmangini wrote:

ok first of all they will never be metal they are just gay screamo. 2 if they wanted to be metal they should have picked such a gay not metal name. 3 they dont look metal in the least bit.

oh, and this person is an idiot. that's gay, this is gay, you're gay. good description. and what do you mean LOOK metal? how do you LOOK metal? a car looks metal. there's no set clothing rule in music. but i'm glad there are still people like you who look at a band, and decide that they must suck.

[jrgoalie33]

when he says they're gonna do a support tour for a bigger band to get their sound out to a new audience, i wonder who that band is gonna be? As I Lay Dying would be awesome. They are looking for a more metal fanbase and A.I.L.D. is huge.

[Disarmonia]

Nevermore uses Drop Bb, SumFX.

checkedd

[diefordethklok]

ToxicDonkey wrote:

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

lol Leading band in the nation? WTF are you on dude? Nothing against TDWP, not saying I like them, but I can stand them, but still, they are nowhere near the leading metal band, I will name 10 bands that are better AND bigger (in no particular order):
- Lamb of God
- Machine Head
- Metallica
- Megadeth
- Killswitch Engage
- As I Lay Dying
- Mastodon
- All That Remains
- Job for A Cowboy
- In Flames
And I could think of MANY more!

Hell yea on In Flames!
They've been around since 19 ****ing 90.
Give THEM some props,
instead of listening to whatever the scene ****s tell you is cool, you myspace bitches.

[SumFX]

Disarmonia wrote:

Nevermore uses Drop Bb, SumFX.

lol. good point however they do tend to play some weird progressive stuff alot of the time.
But i tip my hat to you, you got me there, i suppose they are sort of Heavy Metal.

[diefordethklok]

jerrybeansman22 wrote:

ok i take back anything ive ever said bad about this band...i just got back from a concert and Bring me the horizon takes the cake for "Worst crap ever"...it was like i was watching "Hot Topic: The Band"

I just found my new best friend.

[BreatheOver]

Sweet interview, not too crazy about their new stuff, their first record was awesome. These guys put on one hell of a show.

[pierfifteen1]

hahahahahahhahahahahahaha metal?? no way. not ever. no group that identifies them self as a "christian" group will ever be metal. and i'm not saying they have to be satanic, just if you growl about how awesome jesus is, real metalheads are gonna make fun of you. also, anyone who looks like the 1st picture of the guy on this page is NOT in a real metal band.and by the way, for any metalcore lovers that wonder why i'm commenting here if i don't like the band, i saw the headline and found it so pathetic, i had to check it out.

[MetalBass 77]

because metal is ALLL about the looks right some people think metal is just about being "badass" and prob dont even like the music. Cynic is an excellent Prog metal band (1st album had lots of DM influences) and they all pretty much look normal. only 1 member has long hair!!! who gives a s*** what they look like.

[Daydream_Goo]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

This just made me lol thats all.

[Shredder Guitar]

pierfifteen1 wrote:

hahahahahahhahahahahahaha metal?? no way. not ever. no group that identifies them self as a "christian" group will ever be metal. and i'm not saying they have to be satanic, just if you growl about how awesome jesus is, real metalheads are gonna make fun of you. also, anyone who looks like the 1st picture of the guy on this page is NOT in a real metal band.and by the way, for any metalcore lovers that wonder why i'm commenting here if i don't like the band, i saw the headline and found it so pathetic, i had to check it out.

Impending Doom is a christian band, and dont me they arent metal.

And have you seen the guys in Sleep Terror? they look like an 80's cover band. Skin tight colorless Levi's and blank wal mart shirts with pockets on the front. It isnt about looks.

[IDoCocaine]

They really shouldn't try to be metal because, while some is good, the majority of it sucks horribly.

[thricenturion]

They even say that their lyrics are the driving force and say " This is who we are, this is what we believe" exactly why i wont listen to this shit, ABR and AILD doesnt throw that BS out there, on top of that both of them are worth the dollars i pay to see them play. This shit is teenage gaywad bs.

[RockUAway]

Spinal Tap is more metal than this.

Then again, Spinal Tap goes to 11!
(And is totally awesome actually)

[AmpleSteak]

"We tried to be a metal band."

lololololololololol.

[IDoCocaine]

RockUAway :
Spinal Tap is more metal than this.

Then again, Spinal Tap goes to 11!
(And is totally awesome actually)

Hell yeah! Stonehenge is one of the sweetest songs ever.

[Unispex]

Haha we tried to be a metal band... These guys are no more metal than Korn or Limp Bizkit. And, I know how you look shouldn't matter, but... Can you say "homo"?

[Josh Laiho]

Spoony_Bard wrote:

Not gonna lie, this band is pretty awful.

I agree, not only are the vocals very annoying, but the music sucks. There is like no passion in the music what so ever. This band will not be remembered 10 years from now and they aren't metal. The Devil Wears Prada, as well as all that other HxC shit, is just to make jocks think they are metal. It's like Hair Metal all over again...but worse.

IDoCocaine wrote:

RockUAway :
Spinal Tap is more metal than this.

Then again, Spinal Tap goes to 11!
(And is totally awesome actually)

Hell yeah! Stonehenge is one of the sweetest songs ever.

Who the **** doesn't love Spinal Tap?! Stonehenge is ****ing great.

[Andrew C. S.]

Screamo isn't a genre, it's a method of vocalization. It has absolutely nothing to do with the instrumental approach to music. God, people are so stupid. Love the new album, by the way.

[Disturbdkornkid]

Jon777 wrote:

Disturbdkornkid wrote:

"We tried to be a metal band."

And you failed.
Agreed, but that doesn't diminish the fact that they're great musicians and put out some good music.

That is actually basically what it means.

[Andrew C. S.]

Also, everyone who commented on this interview (besides me, of course) is ****ing retarded.

[ilikebass]

SCREAMO R GAY! Faggots is only care about dying hair and flipping it wtfz only good metalz band ever r cannibal corpse n metallica n pantera all bands not those ones r shyt metal is only bands with not gay screamz screams are gay and ho dare any1 in a metal band have a sense of humor **** screamo

Can I be accepted as a legitimate member of the UG community now, or was that too generic?

[Faux~Affliction]

"also, anyone who looks like the 1st picture of the guy on this page is NOT in a real metal band."

I thought metal wasn't about the looks? =P
Being a greasy long-haired fat guy in baggy camo pants isn't required to have distorted guitar and double bass drum beats.
Just sayin'.

[cotton3434]

CtrlZ wrote:

I liked their older stuff more, I don't mind that they are a christian band, but this album seemed more preachy to me, and less metal. Also it's funny how he can't see that christianity is just as rediculous as scientology haha.

Minus the history involved and the association with Tom Cruise, I'd say... meh, not really. But the hypocrisy involved pisses me off a lot of the time...

That said, the first pic looks like he was going for a gay shot. Kudos to him for achieving it...

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

halfbrainhunter wrote:
if you dont like their music why click on their article?

to propagate the hate. duh, halfbrain.

i just youtubed some of their songs. the vocals are so un-metal that it's pointless to try and argue about the music.

[Projject Pat]

The Devil Wears Prada- Gods Not Going To CAre What You Wore Down Here On Earth But Saying The The Devil Wears Prada Your Inferring That He Is Materialistic ( a sin ) So Its Basically An Anti Materialistic Meaning.

[Firering56]

MedicalHouse wrote:

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.

Christianity was the FIRST religion.

And scientology ( as I understand it) believes that aliens souls created the elements, and belive that aliens souls will rise again to some other entity, or whatever.

If you havnt noticed, THEY RIPPED THAT OFF THE BIBLE.

If they could of had a fake religion they should have atleast made it with an original plot.

[chrisrips]

haha you have to submit mass amounts of money to become part of the religion. dude, same with cristianity. im cool with your religion, but at least know what it is

[TheClincher]

I like this band, and I don't really care what others have to say about them...that said, I really enjoyed Roots, and am looking forward to future stuff from them.

[Aerokizzombie]

*insert stack of a stack of lolstacks*

...729 lols for stupid shity band

[Aerokizzombie]

Firering56 wrote:

MedicalHouse wrote:

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.

Christianity was the FIRST religion.

And scientology ( as I understand it) believes that aliens souls created the elements, and belive that aliens souls will rise again to some other entity, or whatever.

If you havnt noticed, THEY RIPPED THAT OFF THE BIBLE.

If they could of had a fake religion they should have atleast made it with an original plot.

christanity cant be first, seeing as it cane from jewishness dipshit. also no religion is really and different from another

*magical guy(s) in the clouds made the universe because people thousands of years ago didnt have advanced science like we do now*

what religion doesnt fit into that description

[DudeI'mOnAlesse]

jerrybeansman22 wrote:

ok i take back anything ive ever said bad about this band...i just got back from a concert and Bring me the horizon takes the cake for "Worst crap ever"...it was like i was watching "Hot Topic: The Band"

i lol'd long and hard at that one

[sg4ever]

Why do people whine about the Christian stuff? Does it really matter? Are going to die if you don't say something? "Oh gosh! My air supply is being cut off! I must diss on the Christians!" or how about, "Oh no! Christianity is being ridiculed! Even though these people won't lose sleep or change after me lecturing them I just gotta!" This is the internet. Everyone gets an attitude online then gets more reserved in real life. Come one. Let's talk about guitars. You wanna talk Jesus, then we can hang out later.

Checked

[Sounds Divine]

PARYWAY DRIVE!!!! =]

[Masterbeefy]

CtrlZ wrote:

Tedward wrote:
wrong. Christianity is a Religion, and scientology is a business.

Well they both believe in invisible magical beings and rake in massive sums of cash, so forgive me for being confused about the difference. Anyways, back to the band, I agree they won't ever be true "Metal", but they had some good stuff back before this album as far as christian metal goes. Them and ZAO are the best in that genre, even though ZAO is no longer considered a christian band since their album "funeral of god" pretty much scared all the believers away TDWP probably have a good live show too, even though as someone pointed out, their fans are the worst thing about that scene.

I just pray that you see a difference one day =]

sg4ever wrote:

Why do people whine about the Christian stuff? Does it really matter? Are going to die if you don't say something? "Oh gosh! My air supply is being cut off! I must diss on the Christians!" or how about, "Oh no! Christianity is being ridiculed! Even though these people won't lose sleep or change after me lecturing them I just gotta!" This is the internet. Everyone gets an attitude online then gets more reserved in real life. Come one. Let's talk about guitars. You wanna talk Jesus, then we can hang out later.

This guy knows what he is talking about!
I love music for what it is, and I love most forms of music. I will admit that this is one of my more preffered bands (August Burns Red are better >.>), but come on guys, music is music and its the passion of most of the people on this site.
Let us not hate =]

[Masterbeefy]

Firering56 wrote:

MedicalHouse wrote:

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.
Christianity was the FIRST religion.

And scientology ( as I understand it) believes that aliens souls created the elements, and belive that aliens souls will rise again to some other entity, or whatever.

If you havnt noticed, THEY RIPPED THAT OFF THE BIBLE.

If they could of had a fake religion they should have atleast made it with an original plot.

Hey scientology is pretty original xD It was originally a book L Ron Hubbard wrote I think. Not too sure, but I think I read that somewhere. Either way xD All glory to my saviour jesus =D

[Untamed_Horizon]

sg4ever wrote:

Why do people whine about the Christian stuff? Does it really matter? Are going to die if you don't say something? "Oh gosh! My air supply is being cut off! I must diss on the Christians!" or how about, "Oh no! Christianity is being ridiculed! Even though these people won't lose sleep or change after me lecturing them I just gotta!" This is the internet. Everyone gets an attitude online then gets more reserved in real life. Come one. Let's talk about guitars. You wanna talk Jesus, then we can hang out later.

It's just stupid how certain bands attach their belief to their music, when its just totally irrelevant to the aesthetic value and artistic quality to what the hell their playing. I like TDWP and all, and think its best for us just to ignore the part where they rant about Jesusland, and just listen to what they have to offer musically.

By the way, sorry to say this, but their stuff is in no means even remotely progressive in the music world. It's just building on fun synth accompanied riffs, catchy lyrics, and epicly angry screams/roars. But we all know this is what makes hardcore music the epitome of awesome. And who the **** even cares what genre they are. Metal or not, they're fun to listen to.

[MetalUpYourRear]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

Umm. No. They are nowhere near the "leading metal band" Hell, they aren't even metal!!!

His singing sucks. Wanna hear a good singer? Geoff Tate. James Labrie. Bruce Dickenson. Midnight of Crimson Glory (R.I.P). Russel Allen. Roy Khan.

And I will not enjoy it for what it is. I will hate it for what it is. Which is homocore.

And before you say, "If you don't like the band, don't comment!" I had to comment, especially after I read how he compared his singing to ROB HALFORD!!!!! NO!!!! Judas Priest is a real metal band. TDWP isn't even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence!!! That's just not right...

[MetalUpYourRear]

Oh, and as for better screamers, I got one for ya! Kevin Freeman of Gnostic. Go listen and be blown away.

[the starchild]

. Christianity is a Religion, and scientology is a business.

Christianity is as big a business as any. Unoriginal story rewrote with new names to sell to the masses to make millions.
I'd say that's a pretty big business.

As for this band...imo...garbage.

And for the guy who mentioned metallica and megadeath selling out...there is nothing wrong with making a living and being on top. Someone has to do it and they are always looked down on for it.
Fact still remains...they keep pumping out good music at twice the age of most.

In a way I think that their fans are their downfall. [/quote]

[the starchild]

Firering56 wrote:

MedicalHouse wrote:

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the
newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep
music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself
as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to
knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.

Christianity was the FIRST religion.

And scientology ( as I understand it) believes that aliens souls
created the elements, and belive that aliens souls will rise again to
some other entity, or whatever.

If you havnt noticed, THEY RIPPED THAT OFF THE BIBLE.
If they could of had a fake religion they should have atleast made it with an original plot.

Christianity the first? Ha!
Have you ever studied religion?
The ideals of Christianity are directly pulled from multiple stories which copied each other long before the bible was put into a book.
Please study the Egyptians for starters...see where that takes you

[jRaHmCePs]

well to make a heavy metal record you might wanna start be tuning your guitar lower than drop D. anyway i reckon TDWP going heavier will be ****ing sick. like brutal breakdowns with keyboard effects and full on pig deep pig squeals. it would be sick

[tothegallows]

Pretty safe to say anyone who puts shit on TDWP really have no idea about this genre.
You're metal kids. Go grow your hair some more and go fornicate to your metal shit. If you don't like TDWP, don't click on the reviews, interviews or news. I'm 99.9% sure it's not about how big they are or what tour they're on, they obviously enjoy making this music so before you start rambling off crap about tours and how big they are in the mainstream, think a little bit.

[Firering56]

the starchild wrote:

Firering56 wrote:

MedicalHouse wrote:

The irony of calling Scientology silly while promoting one of the
newest religions in existence (Christianity)is worth a laugh. Keep
music and religion separate, but if your going to promote yourself
as a bunch of faggy jesus freaks, at least have the coutesy not to
knock other, equally ridiculous, religions.

Christianity was the FIRST religion.

And scientology ( as I understand it) believes that aliens souls
created the elements, and belive that aliens souls will rise again to
some other entity, or whatever.

If you havnt noticed, THEY RIPPED THAT OFF THE BIBLE.
If they could of had a fake religion they should have atleast made it with an original plot.

Christianity the first? Ha!
Have you ever studied religion?
The ideals of Christianity are directly pulled from multiple stories which copied each other long before the bible was put into a book.
Please study the Egyptians for starters...see where that takes you

Just because the Bible wasnt made imediatly, that doesnt mean that Cristianity wasnt first.
Plus, the Bible stories are thousands of years old.

And God Worshiping (Christian God worshiping) were here LONG before the egyptians.

It started off Jewish, in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, it was renamed Christianity.

[Bristlehead]

^^ uhh, Christian God worshiping was not before everything else, you idiot. What the FUCK are pastors/priests whatever telling people today? If you are a Christian you are not a part of some super elitist religion-to-end-all-religions, you are a part of a stupid dated cult that came way later than most other still-established religions, as well as literally ripped off half of their stories from them. Go take a f*cking religion class, your stupid cult church with the huge stage for bands to play on and fun fun fun youth group activities to keep kids believing in god doesn't count.

[Cianyx]

Firering56 wrote:
Just because the Bible wasnt made imediatly, that doesnt mean that Cristianity wasnt first.
Plus, the Bible stories are thousands of years old.

And God Worshiping (Christian God worshiping) were here LONG before the egyptians.

It started off Jewish, in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, it was renamed Christianity.

Where's here?
Let's see:
Jerusalem dates back 4th millennium BCE
Ancient Egypt dates back 11th millennium BCE

Christianity isn't even the first monotheistic religion

[-tempest-]

please go to the only religion and philosophy thread goddammit(to all those arguing/talking abut religion and the likes). this interview is about the band not your beliefs.

[tdfb]

How come, whenever Christianity is mentioned, a massive debate breaks out, usually about how "stupid" it is, or the fact that it's younger than some old paganistic religion that thought the sun was a burning ball of s*** pushed through the sky by a beetle?

Last time I checked, this was ULTIMATE-GUITAR.com, not CHRISTIANS-V-ATHIESTS.com. Try to stay on f***ing topic guys!

The Devil Wears Prada deffinately isn't a metal band, but when I saw 'em last year, they were pretty good considering. I don't have a favourite song by them, and I don't at all fit into their typical demographic, but I reckon there's a heck of a lot worse galavanting about, trying to be a band nowadays.

[happygoblin4000]

Disarmonia wrote:

Nevermore uses Drop Bb, SumFX.

nevermore uses 7 strings tuned down 1/2 step so its actually open Bb

[Shread_6009]

Some thing i heard that i ckuldnt beloeve is that 50% of americans belive christianity is older tha. Judaism, and now i read an argumentsaying christianity is the first religion...

Christianity takes all its stories from the greeks ( cbristmas andtheimage of god) the egyptians, the concept of a monotheisti god and the apocalupse is fromn the persians, the idea of funeralsand religious cermonies from various forms of sun worship, and everything else is extended from the jews.

[ninjagayden777]

igomoosh wrote:

You want a hardcore christian band? Look up Impending Doom

+infinity

Impending Doom are insanely heavy. TDWP are sweet though.

[eetfuk58]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

uhm. leading metal band in the nation besides sellouts?

FALSE.

Lamb of God, As I Lay Dying, Mastodon, BTBAM...? all of which sell more records, play larger venues for more people and generally make much better music than TDWP. I wont state my personal opinion on any of the bands, as noboby actually cares, that was just an incredibly flamboyant and completely wrong statement.

[bluedude426]

TDWP old albums were quite shitty to me.

I how ever like this album.

[Linqua5150]

"when i think of screamo, i think of stuff like chiodos and hawthorn heights"

when i think of the devil wears prada i think of those bands.

"we tried to be metal" EPIC FAIL

and HOW DARE THEY COMPARE THEMSELVES TO THE PRIEST

damn core kids..

[icantbuyafender]

jRaHmCePs wrote:

well to make a heavy metal record you might wanna start be tuning your guitar lower than drop D. anyway i reckon TDWP going heavier will be ****ing sick. like brutal breakdowns with keyboard effects and full on pig deep pig squeals. it would be sick

Okay, Dave Mustain said it best "Drop tunings really just hide the fact that you cant really play."

Wheres the damn melody in all that non rythmic spazzed out No tempo chunking. Sounds like a bowl of rice crispies.

If you are into that crap, you should sell your gear and stand in the middle of a busy highway. Or listen to the music that was first considered heavy metal, and learn how to play.

These Prada losers arent even brutal enough to clean up after a motley crue hotel party.

[VinnyChinny]

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

I've given the record a chance and I can only say I don't like it. I don't like the guitar work not because it isn't technical but because it's weak in terms of musical quality. You can't make music heavier by drop tuning guitars. Just because you sound lower in pitch doesn't mean you sound heavier. As far as vocals goes, it sounds like any other hardcore/emo band vocals. Screaming sounds good at some points of a song. The abuse of screaming today just seems to hide the fact that that person has very little singing capabilities or none at all.

As far as "leading metal band in the nation",you probably got that off of Wikipedia.

[Injuyin]

To those that say he compared his band to Judas Priest:

"People will go, “Well, there’s singing in it.” I’m like, “I don’t know. Have you ever heard of Judas Priest?” It’s not un-metal to have singing in your music! "

Just saying metal has singing in it. No mention of Judas Priest influence there.

[stoneburner655]

igomoosh wrote:

You want a hardcore christian band? Look up Impending Doom

I def. agree. Immpending Doom is about as heavy as it gets for any band out there.

[Whiplash31]

Just look at the picture they have of the the guitarist! And they wonder why there not metal dont make me laugh TDWP sux. By the way for a christian band why the hell do they have devil in there band name! Also to one of the guys that posted before Megadeth may be sellouts to some ppl but they can still make reall kick ass music.

[Ali-b912]

bradyg wrote:
Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

They can't be a metal band if they spend time trying to look nice with their flippy gay hair etc. What you stupid metalcore kids don't get, is that while heavy metal has no stereotype or image, dressing up like some kind of stereotype or image, automatically renders you not metal. Glam metal got the same treatment back in the 80's, so don't act like you're the victims and everyone hates you for no reason. The fact is that you're just as much sellouts as fallout boy.

[guitardude2012]

what i hate about scene kids around my city is they have THE nicest equipment( messa boogie, engl, gibson etc...) and they have not even the slightest idea what the hell they are doing... i witnessed one band whos guitarist had is bass treble and middle on 0....0!! are you shitting me!?!?! they are just in it for the chick and recognition

[Dregen]

halfbrainhunter wrote:

People actually consider TDWP screamo?
Real screamo bands are:
-Neil Perry
-Joshua Fit For Battle
- Loma Prieta
-City of Caterpillar
-Orchid
-Saetia
-Pg. 99
etc.

TDWP is amazing by the way. i dont get all the hating on bands on this site. if you dont like their music why click on their article?

Thank you. Someone in the comments section that's actually smart.

[Dregen]

VinnyChinny wrote:

As far as vocals goes, it sounds like any other hardcore/emo band vocals. Screaming sounds good at some points of a song. The abuse of screaming today just seems to hide the fact that that person has very little singing capabilities or none at all.

Wow, you're ****ing dumb. You can not scream well if you can't sing well, simple as that. I get sick of people "Ohmygosh they just scream all the time it takes no skill and its emo im gunna listen to my metallicaz and methdethz now"

[Misfit-FTB]

igomoosh wrote:

You want a hardcore christian band? Look up Impending Doom

Or As I Lay Dying.

[cdek12309]

MetalBass 77 wrote:

cdek: not to start a fight or anything but i find your reasoning for their band name to be ironic *if true* If they say fashion is bad then why do they spend the time/money to dye and straighten their hair. also why do they spend the money on stupid bug glasses. once again i dont judge people, but if that band title is true, its hypocrisy in its rawest form.

no what they man by fashion i think is a turning away from god, bc one of their songs says "You've surrendered yourself to fashion, come back to your faith, come back to grace." tht song is about conversion and turning back to god, and staying true to jesus and not letting anything get in the way of him and your beliefs. The Songs name is Number Three Never Forget, lol tht sums it up rite there. But i think think its tht or they just rerally lieked the book

[Dregen]

SGDan wrote:

That's bullshit. You emo shit. icantbuyafender said it best. Deathcore is the most original crap I've heard in a long time. Where are the singers that can hit a note on pitch. Not sound like a cookie monster on meth gargling blood. And guitarist that have melody, timing, groove and feeling.

You know why the "sellouts" are as big as the are? it's becuase their songs are meorable and original. I don't give a shit about a "metal band" that preaches to me. No disrespect to their beliefs. But I don't want to hear them scream about. Screaming isn't a talent. IT's a novelty. They all need to grow a pair and be MUSICIANS and stop being *broooootal*. Deep Purple and Sabbath are heavier than them becuase you can feel the emotion. It's spontenity keeps you on the edge. TDWP is formulated shit that will die out in a short time.

Tune up and learn real music shithead.

Saying bands like Deep Purple and Black Sabbath are original and unformulated, that makes me lol so hard.

If screaming isn't a telent, then why don't you give it a shot? I bet you couldn't do it, because it's much harder than you think.

And you say screaming sounds bad, but you give credit to Black Sabbath and Deep Purple for being talented singers. God damn, I can make sounds come out of my arse that sound better than Ozzy's terrible excuse for singing.

Fuck, if you call pentatonic scales, shitty singing, and overall terrible, poorly constructed songs 'real music', then I would've gave up on music a long time ago.

You want emotion, listen to bands like Circle Takes The Square. Thier songs actually mean something, and it's not like Black Sabbath or whatever where I could write one of their song in 5 seconds, including lyrics. Open your ****ing eyes eyes and stop living in your classic rock infested childhood.

[SGDan]

Ok, I listened to that shit band you mentioned and they suck too. And pentatonic scales? Try harmonic minor, hungarian etc. I never even mentioned Ozzy. How bout Dio? And BTW, I CAN scream. Quite well I might add. It used to my place n a screamo band before I quit do to hating the damn music. And I don't think I've ever heard anything as poorly constructed as a "breakdown". Seriously, palm muting open power chords tuned to drop A isn't well constucted. It's lack of playing ability. Circle takes the square has no emotion at all. Try something like Kyuss' song Space Cadet and come back to me. That's emotion if I've ever heard it. I seriously doubt you could write something like Mastodon's The Last Baron. I didn't grow up in the seventies you dumb ass.

IMHO, I don't think I would really mind bands like TDWP (which I didn't for a while) if they're weren't so many of bands that sound the same.

[Dregen]

SGDan wrote:

Ok, I listened to that shit band you mentioned and they suck too. And pentatonic scales? Try harmonic minor, hungarian etc. I never even mentioned Ozzy. How bout Dio? And BTW, I CAN scream. Quite well I might add. It used to my place n a screamo band before I quit do to hating the damn music. And I don't think I've ever heard anything as poorly constructed as a "breakdown". Seriously, palm muting open power chords tuned to drop A isn't well constucted. It's lack of playing ability. Circle takes the square has no emotion at all. Try something like Kyuss' song Space Cadet and come back to me. That's emotion if I've ever heard it. I seriously doubt you could write something like Mastodon's The Last Baron. I didn't grow up in the seventies you dumb ass.

IMHO, I don't think I would really mind bands like TDWP (which I didn't for a while) if they're weren't so many of bands that sound the same.

CTTS may have been a bad example, but I seriously hear something in their music. Classic rock, and the aforementioned bands, I don't hear anything. My dad brought me up on older music, but I grew away from it to what I listen to now.

Maybe the circustances of my life influence what I like to listen to. I honestly prefer screaming to singing vocals, as long as they're done right. I prefer noise and chaos to melody. Emotion is objective.

I should have made clear that I wasn't really standing up for deathcore, I'm not the hugest fan. It honestly all sounds the same to me, bar one or two bands.

But all the other points you've proven me wrong, don't know what to say.

[AstheticsOfHate]

Christianity was the FIRST religion.

And scientology ( as I understand it) believes that aliens souls created the elements, and belive that aliens souls will rise again to some other entity, or whatever.

If you havnt noticed, THEY RIPPED THAT OFF THE BIBLE.

If they could of had a fake religion they should have atleast made it with an original plot.

I could have sworn Christianty is almost an exact replication of Egyptian sun worship... :|

Religion is for the weak. You're on your own, get over it.

[the_burning_one]

ToxicDonkey wrote:

bradyg wrote:

I love how all you guys hate on Prada, like they suck. They're the leading metal band in the nation right now, with the sickest fan base out of any other band today (besides the sell outs, ex. Metallica, Megadeth)

The Devil Wears Prada's music, alone, is the best setup music I've heard out of any other band.

The clean vocals are brilliant, nothing the matter with them, and they are definitely the best singing vocals by a mile.

Mike can hit screaming ranges like none other, and hold out notes that many Metalcore screamers lack. He has the screaming range that not many have.

The Devil Wears Prada is a band filled with pure talent, literally. If you hate them because they wear "tight pants, and v-necks," think past that. Jesus. TDWP owns any band out there today, by a long shot.

Give the new album a chance, and actually think beyond "emo faggots with black flippy hair," and enjoy it for what it is. As they said, they just want to be a metal band, so quit your bitching

lol Leading band in the nation? WTF are you on dude? Nothing against TDWP, not saying I like them, but I can stand them, but still, they are nowhere near the leading metal band, I will name 10 bands that are better AND bigger (in no particular order):
- Lamb of God
- Machine Head
- Metallica
- Megadeth
- Killswitch Engage
- As I Lay Dying
- Mastodon
- All That Remains
- Job for A Cowboy
- In Flames
And I could think of MANY more!

thank you sir. thank you for naming every band that is great.

[nightmares_win]

igomoosh wrote:

You want a hardcore christian band? Look up Impending Doom

impending doom... is NOT hardcore... hardcore would be ... comeback kid... or black my heart... impending doom is yes... christian metal, but its deathcore. just because a band has breakdowns doesnt make them a "hardcore" band.. the genres diversify too much.

[PuRs3l]

Bullet For My Valentine is good Metalcore. Enough said.

Checked.

Cut out the religion debate, that doesn't belong here.

[TheSound]

If they're gonna play music at least learn about genres. Screamo? Hawthorne Heights? Chiodos? Please. Someone tell these guys to learn their genres.

Also, these guys are good? FFS, listen to some better music. Misery Signals, Between The Buried And Me, Every Time I Die, as a few examples.

[SharpObject]

Some people here don't know what metal is..

[Thomasoman]

just saying, comments liike..

ok first of all they will never be metal they are just gay screamo. 2 if they wanted to be metal they should have picked such a gay not metal name. 3 they dont look metal in the least bit.

...reallyyyy make me aware of what metal TRUELY is. Telephone tough guys, just because you don't like something doesn't mean its shit. Lets face it, half the bands you're naming with 'metal credibility' aren't even that technical, and the guys in TDWP could probably play that kind of music if they wanted to. But music is a DIVERSE art form. thats right brutal metalcore elitists, just because something isn't cliche, evil, and 'metalz' doesn't mean the people who play it are faggots.

Oh, also, someone closely examine a bullet for my valentine song and explain how that is 'good metalcore'. Metalcore is a watered down excuse of a genre now. It was cool back when bands like AILD were doing it. Now everyone sounds like everyone else. Your precious -core is worthless to the progression of music. Get over it.

The current, young music scene is DIFFERENT. scenes change. You might see it as gay but I see it as ambitious, pationate, and relatable. That doesn't make it gay. The days of judas priest and maiden and all that are long gone. I suggest you learn to accept this, otherwise you're going to continue sounding like angsty 16 year old tools, which you most likely are because lets face it, thats what UG is.

tl;dr Music changes. Scenes evolve, TDWP aren't the steaming pile of talentless shit they're made out to be. Stop jumping on the bandwagon, it just makes you look like idiots.

Love,
Mike

[-tempest-]

Thomasoman wrote:

just saying, comments liike..

ok first of all they will never be metal they are just gay screamo. 2 if they wanted to be metal they should have picked such a gay not metal name. 3 they dont look metal in the least bit.

...reallyyyy make me aware of what metal TRUELY is. Telephone tough guys, just because you don't like something doesn't mean its shit. Lets face it, half the bands you're naming with 'metal credibility' aren't even that technical, and the guys in TDWP could probably play that kind of music if they wanted to. But music is a DIVERSE art form. thats right brutal metalcore elitists, just because something isn't cliche, evil, and 'metalz' doesn't mean the people who play it are faggots.

Oh, also, someone closely examine a bullet for my valentine song and explain how that is 'good metalcore'. Metalcore is a watered down excuse of a genre now. It was cool back when bands like AILD were doing it. Now everyone sounds like everyone else. Your precious -core is worthless to the progression of music. Get over it.

The current, young music scene is DIFFERENT. scenes change. You might see it as gay but I see it as ambitious, pationate, and relatable. That doesn't make it gay. The days of judas priest and maiden and all that are long gone. I suggest you learn to accept this, otherwise you're going to continue sounding like angsty 16 year old tools, which you most likely are because lets face it, thats what UG is.

tl;dr Music changes. Scenes evolve, TDWP aren't the steaming pile of talentless shit they're made out to be. Stop jumping on the bandwagon, it just makes you look like idiots.

Love,
Mike

pretty much this.

[Charlie4]

Few funny and ridiculous comments on here. First off - there's no such thing as a METAL look.

- Dark eyes (Eyeliner etc)
- Dark nails (Nail paint)
- Long hair (Hair dryers & straightners)

To get this look you need to use these women's products. How is using women's products METAL & Manly?

Metal/Metalcore? Anyone ever heard of subgenres? You kids that say they're not metal are probably the same ones that say Black Sabbath isn't Metal cause they're not brootalz.

Lose the ignorance, free your minds.
PEACE !

[TheSunAlsoRises]

to fretman500 there is a huge fallacy in saying they scream in their songs so they are screamo. what are you talking about? are you saying whitechapel is screamo? what about BTBM? im pretty sure that those bands arent even close to screamo so dont generalize things like tht its idiotic

[travislausch]

Homophobia, religious flame wars, genre elitism...

I'm f***ing BOOKMARKING this s***. I could probably use this as perfect source material in a "why metal fans suck" essay or something.

This made my day, really. If this thread is indicative of what metal fans are, then I want nothing to do with being a "metal fan".

[prunaman]

Guys, hypocrisy breeds both ways. I agree that christians do try to ram christ down people's throats almost to the point of excessiveness but that doesn't mean you have to make people feel like shit because of it. I am a christian. if you are not i will still love you. its a lifestyle, and you have to believe 100% percent in it to do it, but believe it or not there are still some good christians out there. We believe in what we believe and you believe in what you believe. Lets focus on the music for what it is, but there is no point in making people feel like shit in either respective religion. you dont like christians making you feel bad, wouldn't you wanna be the bigger religion?

[hopespaul]

henkka_potku wrote:

"We tried to be a metal band." LOL
Also, the band name is stupid.
Christian metalcore isn't exactly the genre I would start to play if I started a band

yah that's why you're not a successful musician

[ToxicDonkey]

Jordmo wrote:

ToxicDonkey wrote:

bradyg wrote:

lol Leading band in the nation? WTF are you on dude? Nothing against TDWP, not saying I like them, but I can stand them, but still, they are nowhere near the leading metal band, I will name 10 bands that are better AND bigger (in no particular order):
- Lamb of God
- Machine Head
- Metallica
- Megadeth
- Killswitch Engage
- As I Lay Dying
- Mastodon
- All That Remains
- Job for A Cowboy
- In Flames
And I could think of MANY more!

God. You haven't lived.
There are so many bands out there.
Try 'Throats' 'Trap Them' 'Manuscripts' 'Crocus'

Seriously. So so underrated.

Ill have to check them out, the names of those bands make them sound pretty badass lol.

[xvengeancex]

henkka_potku wrote:

"We tried to be a metal band." LOL
Also, the band name is stupid.
Christian metalcore isn't exactly the genre I would start to play if I started a band

I'm sorry, and tell us, what famous constantly touring band are you in, fella?

[lmpguitarist]

There are plenty of better metal bands out there, and these guys obviously don't know what genre they are in. They aren't a heavy metal band no matter how much they say it, they will always be a warped tour band. They have a ton more in common with, say, Underoath or those bands then they do with a band like Killswitch Engage, All That Remains or Shadows Fall (the bands that pretty much created metalcore)

lmpguitarist wrote:

They have a ton more in common with, say, Underoath or those bands then they do with a band like Killswitch Engage, All That Remains or Shadows Fall (the bands that pretty much created metalcore)

Last I checked, it was Converge, Botch, Coalesce, and Cave In (among others) that pretty much created metalcore. I mean, yeah, Killswitch and the like had a big influence on the current wave, but the genre was around long before them.

[JD Blue Venom]

f-cking elitists...

im not a fan of the band but the snobbery on this site is getting stupid, its just seems to be full of underground metal fans lurking around waiting patiently for the next mainstream metal band article to pop up lol