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The Bangles: 'Why There Aren't More All-Female Bands Trying To Out-Do Us?'

The Bangles: 'Why There Aren't More All-Female Bands Trying To Out-Do Us?'
Here is Ultimate Guitar's interview with vocals/guitars Vicki Peterson of all-female band The Bangles.

UG: Your sister, Debbi, is the drummer of your band - The Bangles. How did you two decide what instruments you wanted to play growing up, and did you always want to be in a band together or how did that come about?

Vicki Peterson: Since a very young age I’d always gravitated towards the guitar (although I also played around with the piano in the living room). Debbi spent her youngest years playing just about every “air instrument” there is, so when my band needed a drummer, she just sat down at a kit and played for real what she’d been pretending to play for years. Seriously, the first time she was on the drums she was able to play them.

With you, was there a definable, what most people would describe, as an “a-ha” moment - when you knew that you had to play guitar?

It seemed as though I had a natural attraction to the guitar. I was young, maybe 6, when I started bothering my parents (and Santa) for a guitar. I think my first true guitar lust was at the age of 9 when I convinced my parents to buy a Rickenbacker copy - my first electric.

Being in one of the most famous and greatest all girl bands to date, has there been any pressure to uphold that status?

I’m just curious as to why there aren’t more all-female bands trying to out-do us? I know you’re out there, ladies, and it’s not easy to be heard. Don’t give up!

One of your biggest hits, “Manic Monday” was written by an amazing guitar player and legend himself, Prince. Being a great guitarist yourself, what was it like to work with another brilliant player?

Prince is a natural, soulful musician. He plays from his gut. I remember happily handing him my Les Paul to play with us onstage - I was too intimidated to do anything but play rhythm behind him!

Do you have any specific rituals or routines that you adhere to before you play a show? If so, would you mind sharing?

I am thankful to Aimee Mann, because someone told us that she eats potato chips before a show - to coat the throat. I love that - it’s the only time I’ll eat chips guilt-free! I do also bash about on the guitar before a show, just to get the fingers moving.

What advice do you have for other aspiring female musicians?

Learn your stuff, know what you want and ask for it diplomatically. Don’t let anyone convince you to do something you don’t want to do.

"Since a very young age I'd always gravitated towards the guitar."

Most of us have heard the term “groupie”, and are aware of the definition. Do The Bangles have any “groupies”, and do you think it is as common to have men throw themselves at you like women throw themselves at men musicians who they admire?

We don’t have groupies, we have stalkers. I’m kidding. Kind of. Men in general don’t behave like the traditional groupie - here’s where we run into true gender differences. Someone could do a whole dissertation on this subject.

Would you consider yourself a “gear head” or are you comfortable playing anything? If so, what specific gear do you favor?

I am most definitely not a “gear head,” although I do have faves and I know almost instantly whether an amp or guitar “fits” me. I have had most of my favorite guitars for years: Les Paul Custom, Fender Strat, Gretsch Country Classic Jr., and the new Bangles signature model Daisy Rock gets played every night.

There are a lot of different ways and approaches to learning an instrument, specifically guitar. For you, do you think it’s better to learn the basics, such as chords, notes, and scales, or to actually learn an entire song first…and why?

As painful as it can be, it’s important to learn some basics first.

There’s a wonderful moment when things start to click and you realize how many songs you can play with just those three chords! Learning a favorite song can be inspiring and may encourage a student to keep trying, but unless the basics are mastered, he or she isn’t going to get much more out of the instrument.

This is a question that every player is asked at some point: Are you primarily self-taught or did you take lessons, and are there any specific methods or techniques have made a significant impact on your style?

That Rickenbacker copy (Electro) guitar I mentioned earlier? That was part of a package deal with a local music store - instrument and lessons. I took guitar lessons for about six months before quitting, but in that time I learned the basics of notation, chords, major and minor scales, and…uh…”Lemon Tree.” I taught myself from then on, perhaps becoming most inspired when the Bangles started playing with other bands in LA and I began the just-make-noise approach to lead guitar.

What state of mind do you find most conducive to creating and performing great music?

Calm, with a shot of adrenaline. Either that or a shot of tequila...

During the time you started playing guitar, there weren’t very many female players to look up to. Who did you look up to, and was it only women or were there men, as well? What/who initially inspired you to pick up the guitar?

It was mainly male musicians at first - the Beatles, Bob Dylan, John Sebastian. I loved Joni Mitchell, but I wasn’t one of the girls at that time who tried to cop her style. I discovered Bonnie Raitt when I was in high school and she was absolutely an inspiration for me.

Do you think it’s a good thing that there are more women in music these days, and do you think it really matters that they’re female?

There have always been wonderful, successful women in music, sometimes behind the scenes, and it seems that every seven years or so, someone focuses on Women In Music, as though it’s an anomaly. That being said, it might be true that there are more women making a mark in music today and I say hurray for that. On some level, it doesn’t matter what the gender is, but it’s nice to have a female point of view expressed in music, isn’t it?

There are definitely more female guitarists in the music scene these days, but it still seems quite rare, do you have a theory on why this is?

It does strike me as odd that this very question was asked of me twenty-five years ago and I’d answered that in the near future it would be a moot point, because there would be so many female guitarists. But here we are. I’ve worked on several theories, but they all depress me. I like to focus on the amazing female guitar players I do know…

Do you ever get bored playing the same songs every night, and do you ever just decide to change some of the parts (for fun) when you’re on stage?

There are so many other distractions and elements going on during a live performance that I’m thrilled when my hands actually remember the parts they’re supposed to be playing. I do have moments in the show that are open to improvisation, and that keeps things interesting…

You have an artist signature series model with Daisy Rock Girl Guitars, what was the process in designing that?

The process was pretty simple actually, if you don’t take into account all the modifications that we’ve made after the first prototype was done. We sat on the floor of the Daisy Rock offices with Tish and some of the staff and sketched and discussed and played a few of the existing guitars. We wanted a guitar that looked great, played great and sounded great. We based the body off the Retro-H model and made changes to the bridge and electronics, designed a new pick-guard shape and went with a Mod black-and-white color scheme. Plugged into one of my stomp boxes, the Bangles’ Daisy Rock can give my Les Paul a run for the money.

"I know you're out there, ladies, and it's not easy to be heard. Don't give up!"

Do you think it’s good that there are more female oriented companies and initiatives in music these days as opposed to when you started playing?

To be honest, I wasn’t sure what to think when I first heard of Daisy Rock Girl Guitars, for example. No one was there trying to make it easier for ME when I was nine…But then, of course, I realized that that’s the whole point. Why not be there with a community and an encouraging environment when a young girl first picks up a guitar? Why should she have to tough it out in the boys’ room? It’s music and that is for everyone. Learning an instrument doesn’t have to be a contest of physical strength, but a show of commitment, tenacity and inspiration.

What is the recipe for The Bangles success and why do you think your band has been able to stick around for so long? Do you have any advice on maintaining a successful career?

I think we were enormously fortunate to have experienced what can only be described as a confluence of good timing, marketing, and material. Which is not a very romantic way of explaining success in the music business, I know, but those seem to be the predominate elements. That, and the possibility that we possess what cannot be explained or deconstructed: chemistry. It just worked with Debbi, Susanna and me the first time we met, and then when Michael joined as our bass player. The fact that people still want to hear the music we made over twenty years ago (and indulge us to listen to newer songs) is nothing but a blessing to me.

What is Vicki Peterson up to these days, what projects are in the works that we should know about?

There is light at the end of the New Bangles’ Record tunnel - we hope to wrap up recording next month and have the new record out next year. We’ll be releasing some sneak listens, so I’d suggest sticking close to the Bangles’ website (www.thebangles.com) for more on that. I’m also going to be participating in the 30 A Songwriters’ Festival in January (www.30asongwritersfestival.com), and have plans to do one or two solo shows in the LA area that month. Oh, and I’m getting new carpeting.

You can get The Bangles' Signature Model Guitar at this location.



By Jennifer Farmer
Daisy Rock Artist Relations
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 09:42 am
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johnyguitar :
Prince is a natural, soulful musician. He plays from his gut. I remember happily handing him my Les Paul to play with us onstage - I was too intimidated to do anything but play rhythm behind him!

Gee why does this statement not surprise me...probably because I dont think I ever heard a guitar solo on a Bangles song.....
You guy should do a story on the Black Eyed Peas since this seems to be the direction that UG is going in.
I really liked the Taylor Swift article a couple of months ago.....

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 10:03 am / quote |
Joshpy :
What a **** you are sir. (Above)
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 10:40 am / quote |
TJ1991 :
Well said, Joshpy. Why do bands need to have songs with guitar solos to be on UG, exactly? Yes it's a guitar website, but HEY, YOU CAN DO MORE THAN SOLO ON A GUITAR.

The Bangles are awesome. I saw them a couple of years ago in a tiny venue, about 100 people there. They've still got it!

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 11:02 am / quote |
Zeletros :
I'm not against females or anything, but somehow I just don't like this.

Most of talented musicians are in fact male, leave it to chance?

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 12:17 pm / quote |
Oddsbodkins :
Walk Like An Egyptian was an essential part of my childhood. (And it does have solos) Never heard another of their songs though.
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 12:39 pm / quote |
BenjaminFields :
johnyguitar wrote:

Prince is a natural, soulful musician. He plays from his gut. I remember happily handing him my Les Paul to play with us onstage - I was too intimidated to do anything but play rhythm behind him!

Gee why does this statement not surprise me...probably because I dont think I ever heard a guitar solo on a Bangles song.....
You guy should do a story on the Black Eyed Peas since this seems to be the direction that UG is going in.
I really liked the Taylor Swift article a couple of months ago.....


I think it's interesting to note that you've listened to every Bangles album and song from the past 22 years. You sir are a closet Bangles 'Super-Fan' It amazes me that you would put down a band you're so obviously familiar with.

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 12:42 pm / quote |
rhoadsboy815 :
My band was just in the maurices music small town band search that was sponsored by them! We came in third. First place would have got to play a show with them. My band's name is Euralea! and the link is www.mauricesmusic.sonicbids.com. Pretty awesome contest and great bands.
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 12:48 pm / quote |
TheSilverBeatle :
They need to check out Tegan & Sara they put all female bands on the past decades to shame. Amazing lyrics, instantly memorable hooks, great voices and harmonies, they've got it all.
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 01:39 pm / quote |
Sandor138 :
I hate when a band feels the need to advertise that they're all female. It's like saying, "There's nothing interesting about our music... but we've got boobs!" I have nothing against women in bands I just wish they wouldn't use it as a gimmick and actually be good at what they do. /rant
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 01:40 pm / quote |
Jesus_Dean :
Never really cared for the Bangles, but "the Go-Go's" rocked.
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 01:47 pm / quote |
Swannie :
"the Bangles Daisy Rock can give my Les Paul a run for the money. "
lol

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 04:07 pm / quote |
rokkit :
never even heard of the bangles. probably why there arent more bands like it?
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 05:08 pm / quote |
Iliekgitaz :
Sandor138 wrote:

I hate when a band feels the need to advertise that they're all female. It's like saying, "There's nothing interesting about our music... but we've got boobs!" I have nothing against women in bands I just wish they wouldn't use it as a gimmick and actually be good at what they do. /rant


I lol'd at this

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 05:09 pm / quote |
vermilion444 :
I'm not a fan of the Bangles really, but I can respect them. I don't think it's so much an issue of them advertising they are all-female as the media focuses on it. If you are asked a million questions about what it is like to be a woman in music and woman this and woman that, what are you supposed to do? Get ignorant with the interviewer, then you'd be called a bitch. I think the interview was pretty good, she had very good answers.
POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 06:18 pm / quote |
vermilion444 :
rokkit wrote:

never even heard of the bangles. probably why there arent more bands like it?


Maybe you are like 12? The Bangles were a pretty popular group in the early 80s. Sometimes it's nice to at least have knowledge of bands other than ones in your favorite genre.

POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 06:20 pm / quote |
Sydal *[LFPE]* :
There is a really good all girl group from Australia, they won a competition with radio station triple j last year to record their debut EP. Their name is Stonefield, everyone should probably check them out


POSTED: 01/18/2011 - 08:19 pm / quote |
BeerChurch :
Suzanna Hoffs /thread
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 12:25 am / quote |
GreenDayFan16 :
.....I've never been a huge fan but I can respect the work they've done. One hit is a lot better than no hits. And to still have very loyal fans this late in their career when they weren't exactly seen as revolutionary or "as good" as other bands in their era is very commendable. Props to the ladies for staying in it.
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 12:47 am / quote |
LGrinningSoul :
As a female guitarist...I found this interview pretty interesting. Yeah, it's a lot harder for females to play guitar in this kind of world. Everyone thinks you're some pansy dipshit who strums a couple of chords and sings. It's hard to get taken seriously.
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 02:17 am / quote |
Pree666 :
What about "Iron Maidens"?They kicked major ass(even though they are a tribute band).UG could have interviewed them for an all female band.
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 02:39 am / quote |
-Annihilation- :
Sandor138 wrote:

I hate when a band feels the need to advertise that they're all female. It's like saying, "There's nothing interesting about our music... but we've got boobs!" I have nothing against women in bands I just wish they wouldn't use it as a gimmick and actually be good at what they do. /rant


Exactly.

POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 05:12 am / quote |
JordanDH :
TheSilverBeatle wrote:

They need to check out Tegan & Sara they put all female bands on the past decades to shame. Amazing lyrics, instantly memorable hooks, great voices and harmonies, they've got it all.

YESYESYESYESYES.

POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 08:35 am / quote |
Grimriffer :
daisy rock ad...
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 08:54 am / quote |
Daburcor :
It makes me sad that the Bangles are so quickly dismissed by so many. They were and are a damn good band, girls or not.

Most people only know stuff like "Manic Monday" or "Eternal Flame" (both of which are damn fine) and have no idea stuff like this exists as well:


Also; The Daisy Rock guitars do sound awesome.

POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 10:19 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
I've never liked the Bangles. Boring music, IMO, and I wish people would stop going bananas everytime they see a set of boobs in music. Just pay attention to the music, goddammit.
Although I will agree with what she said, in that it's different to hear a female's voice and expression in music, and I totally agree with that. There's something about the female voice and writing style that carries something very, well, "feminine" in it. Artists like Norah Jones, Bjrk, Alicia Keys, Amy Lee, Skye Edwards, Tracy Chapman, Anneke van Giersbergen and a whole slew of others have something very special that a guy voice simply wouldn't be able to convey.

Also, Checked.

POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 11:59 am / quote |
BeetusMaster :
Heart already did out-do them, and they came before The Bangles.
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 01:00 pm / quote |
KoK_Guitarist :
I think it's very sexy and hot to see an all female rock or metal bands and we need to see more
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 01:38 pm / quote |
punk_mike_88 :
Sleater-Kinney and Plumtree outdid them in the 90s.
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 04:38 pm / quote |
ginger_snapd_ha :
There are a lot of other female bands that are great... L7, Kittie, The Donnas...
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 04:51 pm / quote |
ridinglightning :
If music is for everyone, why do they try to divide it by having a company that makes guitars oriented for one gender? It's only going to divide the community
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 05:19 pm / quote |
DoteStudios :
Fame is not decided by sex, plenty of women have proven that wrong. It may be harder for you ladies to be taken as rockers, if you don't have the stuff that is. Look at The Runaways!!! They proved that women who blame record companies for their lack of fame are full of shit.
POSTED: 01/19/2011 - 05:45 pm / quote |
Unsaid :
Misread this as "Why aren't other all-female bands trying to do us?"
POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 08:00 am / quote |
JezusLP :
Nice guitar
POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 08:36 am / quote |
Tarsplitter :
TheSilverBeatle wrote:

They need to check out Tegan & Sara they put all female bands on the past decades to shame. Amazing lyrics, instantly memorable hooks, great voices and harmonies, they've got it all.

Great voices...what?

POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 09:21 am / quote |
CoheednRHCP :
BeetusMaster wrote:

Heart already did out-do them, and they came before The Bangles.

Difference between Heart and The Bangles is that Heart wasn't an all female band, just had female band members. Female bands piss me off. They try and sell feminism instead of good music. Fact of the matter is, most rock musicians are male. Makes sense that most famous rock musicians are male.

POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 09:38 am / quote |
_LoveFuzz_ :
[quoteFemale bands piss me off. They try and sell feminism instead of good music.[/quote]

lolno

The male dominated industry forces this as a marketing tool.

POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 01:14 pm / quote |
CoheednRHCP :
_LoveFuzz_ wrote:

[quoteFemale bands piss me off. They try and sell feminism instead of good music.


lolno

The male dominated industry forces this as a marketing tool. [/quote]
Oh come on. You can't honestly say that's not what bands who are strictly all female are trying to do. Producers don't make up bands.

All female bands sell either feminism or sex appeal, and feminism is the majority since sex appeal is dominated by solo artists.

POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 03:34 pm / quote |
BUBBAHENDRIX :
THE GO GO'S HAD GREAT SONGS
POSTED: 01/20/2011 - 08:49 pm / quote |
JordanDH :
CoheednRHCP wrote:

Oh come on. You can't honestly say that's not what bands who are strictly all female are trying to do. Producers don't make up bands.

All female bands sell either feminism or sex appeal, and feminism is the majority since sex appeal is dominated by solo artists.

Bands don't market themselves. There's more than just musicians and producers in the industry. Do all male bands just sell masculism? Your ideas are hilarious.

POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 03:26 am / quote |
Galfadez :
That's terrible grammar UG. "Why there Aren't" lol at least proof read the title
POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 06:47 am / quote |
Primus2112 :
Not a fan, I don't give a damn that Daisy Rock makes "girl guitars" because that sig looks amazing. I'm not even joking, I would play the shit out of that.
POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 09:05 am / quote |
CaliforniaKid :
Anybody here ever buy a Bangles record?
My moneys on "No".

POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 09:37 am / quote |
CoheednRHCP :
JordanDH wrote:

CoheednRHCP wrote:

Oh come on. You can't honestly say that's not what bands who are strictly all female are trying to do. Producers don't make up bands.

All female bands sell either feminism or sex appeal, and feminism is the majority since sex appeal is dominated by solo artists.
Bands don't market themselves. There's more than just musicians and producers in the industry. Do all male bands just sell masculism? Your ideas are hilarious.


Just because a band has only male members in it currently doesn't make it an "all male band." Its just that most rock musicians are male. I'd bet most male musicians would take a female bandmember if they were good enough. No all female bands would, because that's they're gimmick.

And "boy bands" DO follow exactly what I've said about female bands in regards to sex appeal.

POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 11:25 am / quote |
advance2go :
Joni Mitchell and Sheryl Crowe-- the two best female artists
POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 11:45 am / quote |
xharass_natox :
I'm a female guitarist and it's actually quite hard to find talented female band members - there are a lot of ladies out there that start to play instruments then don't get taken seriously ("show us your boobs" "she's good - for a girl lolol"...) and give up. Then the female musicians that try to encourage other women to stay in the game get called feminists.
POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 12:00 pm / quote |
Dakkstar :
I liked their cover of Hazy Shade of Winter. I thought that was a killer version.
POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 12:35 pm / quote |
pwninator123 :
CaliforniaKid wrote:

Anybody here ever buy a Bangles record?
My moneys on "No".

I own one on vinyl.

POSTED: 01/21/2011 - 02:30 pm / quote |
Shreddie-Sharp :
heard of rock bitch?
POSTED: 01/22/2011 - 05:32 am / quote |
Nirvandy :
Warpaint ftw.
POSTED: 01/23/2011 - 01:06 am / quote |
maidenxxxpriest :
I've heard of the Bangles but I haven't heard anything by them. In my opinion The Runaways is the best all girl rock band EVER. Hole is good but not all women.
There are alot of bands that say, have a chick bassist, and that's cool.
Talking Heads, Pixies, Smashing Pumpkins, A Perfect Circle, White Zombie. They all did from one time to another.

POSTED: 01/23/2011 - 09:30 pm / quote |
devinc253 :
Its simple.. Girls don't along well with each other so odds are they would break up before getting much rockin' done
POSTED: 01/24/2011 - 01:36 am / quote |
Daburcor :
CoheednRHCP wrote:
Just because a band has only male members in it currently doesn't make it an "all male band." Its just that most rock musicians are male.
No, that's exactly what it would make them. Your sexist double standard is disheartening.

CoheednRHCP wrote:
I'd bet most male musicians would take a female bandmember if they were good enough. No all female bands would, because that's they're gimmick.
The Bangles' current bass player is a dude. Derrick Anderson has been playing with them the last few years and Matthew Sweet is playing bass on their new record.

POSTED: 01/24/2011 - 04:31 pm / quote |
CoheednRHCP :
Daburcor wrote:

CoheednRHCP wrote:
Just because a band has only male members in it currently doesn't make it an "all male band." Its just that most rock musicians are male.No, that's exactly what it would make them. Your sexist double standard is disheartening.

CoheednRHCP wrote:
I'd bet most male musicians would take a female bandmember if they were good enough. No all female bands would, because that's they're gimmick.The Bangles' current bass player is a dude. Derrick Anderson has been playing with them the last few years and Matthew Sweet is playing bass on their new record.


Session members and touring only musicians font count. Why? Because they're being distanced from the band for sone reason. They advertise themselves an an all female band. A gimmick. Being a band with only male members isn't a gimmick, it's statistics.

I'm not sexist, I'm anti-feminist. There's a difference. I myself have a female bassist in my band. It's ridiculous to call someone sexist because you don't agree with one opinion they have.

POSTED: 01/25/2011 - 08:19 am / quote |
stratmaster15 :
she just sat down at a kit and played for real what shed been pretending to play for years. Seriously, the first time she was on the drums she was able to play them.


of course she could play them,they are drums. Playing drums is not brain surgery...

POSTED: 02/07/2011 - 06:41 pm / quote |
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