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Jazz Chords

author: coffeeguy9 date: 09/22/2006 category: chords
rating: 8.9 / votes: 66 
POSTED: 09/22/2006 - 04:52 am
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SethMegadefan :
Well, I like the concept of this lesson a lot. I really do. I'm not too big on jazz chords yet, and this is seriously a rock solid awesome guide to a bunch of stuff I've been meaning to learn. So I thank you for that.
However, it would've been nice if you would've explained more on how to use these chords, as opposed to how to just form them. Like, you explained what notes a dominant seventh chord has, yet explained no theory as to where you'd use a dominant seventh chord. For instance, if you're in the key of C, which dominant seventh chord would you use? G7, because it's the fifth of C. In many instances, you could've pointed out things like that, or so I personally thought.
Other than that, this was still a great lesson. I really got a lot out of it. Nice job; 9/10.

POSTED: 09/22/2006 - 05:04 pm / quote |
LeveLHeaD69 :
its good
POSTED: 09/22/2006 - 06:05 pm / quote |
get-born :
3rd

very, very helpful...

POSTED: 09/22/2006 - 08:49 pm / quote |
5:15_Whofan :
could have been more in depth. i hope you do that at a later date. maybe some inversions or differences in voicings and names. 8/10
POSTED: 09/23/2006 - 01:09 am / quote |
Caseguitar :
nice i liked the delta chords.
do atonal clusters next time

POSTED: 09/23/2006 - 04:30 pm / quote |
ElephantMan4563 :
THANK YOU!! I've been looking for a good Jazz chord lesson for a while!!!
POSTED: 09/26/2006 - 10:37 am / quote |
wasp2020 :
Excellent! I was just looking for a jazz chord lesson!I'm trying to get through an online jazz lesson (type it in google, it's a huge one, first thing) - but it's hard to grasp some of the progressions as it doesn't give you tab (which is very useful when trying to distinguish 9ths and 7ths and 13ths etc... apart from each other in different voicings). So thanks.

But yeah, considering that, I think you should have included some uses for the chords too. That and your second last paragraph dragged on a bit. But excellent 9/10

POSTED: 09/26/2006 - 01:06 pm / quote |
cmonfeelthenoiz :
just to throw this out there, if you break down any 6 chord, it coresponds to a 7th chord.

for instance, c maj6 is an inversion of a min7, and so on.

POSTED: 09/26/2006 - 04:13 pm / quote |
cmonfeelthenoiz :
C maj6 is an inversion of A min7.

sorry.

POSTED: 09/26/2006 - 04:14 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
Checked.
POSTED: 09/28/2006 - 07:44 am / quote |
595Metallica595 :
very helpful thanks a lot

POSTED: 10/14/2006 - 07:47 pm / quote |
kennethdave :
Hey its a good lesson, been wanting to get somethin different instead of playing rock, metal and blues...by the way, i can't seem to find your other article, identifying intervals?
POSTED: 10/16/2006 - 03:19 am / quote |
kennethdave :
Oh yeah found it, its under the columns....
POSTED: 10/16/2006 - 03:21 am / quote |
Brandon_leigh :
I'm gonna print it, put it in my favorites mail it to all my friends and learn some jazz :p
yayy!! Thanks a lott :d

POSTED: 11/12/2006 - 04:27 am / quote |
mis.po :
Just two remarks on the Cm9 diagram:

-10-
-8--
-7--
-8--
-10-
-8--

1) it requires too many fingers
2) it lacks the minor 3rd which makes it a minor chord

thus the more realistic fingering would be:

-10-
x----
-8-- (E flat)
-8--
x----
-8--

Both G's are omitted here, making it even more "jazzy"

POSTED: 11/13/2006 - 08:43 pm / quote |
Les__Paul__630* :
uhhhhh yeah cool
POSTED: 11/17/2006 - 04:41 pm / quote |
coffeeguy9 :
mis.po: I have no idea what I was thinking... wow thats bad, I use the second voicing I mentioned almost 95% of the time.
POSTED: 11/17/2006 - 11:21 pm / quote |
MAINCORE2 :
Wow! i never thought the jazz cords were so easy once you know the basics when i first herd jazz i was confused i guess im an ediot if i thoght it was hard.
POSTED: 12/05/2006 - 07:43 pm / quote |
floutist :
While this is a sweet lesson, some of your fingering/layout of the chords use one too many notes (as mis.po previously stated).

For example: When you finger the Fmaj7, off the E string, the A string is muted.
Fmaj7:
--
-1
-2
-2
-x
-1
--

I

POSTED: 01/13/2007 - 12:57 pm / quote |
joeyramoney :
a "doubly flat seventh" is a sixth. maybe you could have given a few pointers as to how to use these chords.
POSTED: 01/20/2007 - 04:37 pm / quote |
joeyramoney :
For example: When you finger the Fmaj7, off the E string, the A string is muted.
Fmaj7:
--
-1
-2
-2
-x
-1
--


um, no you don't. you still need a fifth for a maj7, and muting a string you can play has no advantage.

POSTED: 01/20/2007 - 04:40 pm / quote |
coffeeguy9 :
You don't "Need" a fifth in a chord, it gives the chord no definition unless it is diminished.
POSTED: 01/21/2007 - 12:04 pm / quote |
mis.po :
The simplified version posted by floutist is perfectly sufficient. All 4 notes (for Fmaj7 there is a nice mnemonic FACE) are included, with the fifth on B string.

I would also add this Fmaj7 variation on the 5th fret:

-5--
-5--
-5--
-7--
-8--
x---

POSTED: 01/22/2007 - 07:43 pm / quote |
musiclover2399 :
Very very excellent lesson!
POSTED: 02/03/2007 - 01:31 pm / quote |
EnderO77 :
Very cool lesson... can i use it on my drum kit?
POSTED: 02/05/2007 - 05:28 am / quote |
patmann3 :
^dude its not called ultimate GUITAR for nothing you know!
POSTED: 02/09/2007 - 12:12 pm / quote |
floutist :
um, no you don't. you still need a fifth for a maj7, and muting a string you can play has no advantage.


The string is muted as a result of the fingering of the chord.

POSTED: 02/18/2007 - 03:35 pm / quote |
grunge_kid :
well you do need a 5th if your playing diminished or aug chords other wise it would be a minor or a major ...i think, dont hold me to it these are just my thoughts
POSTED: 04/17/2007 - 06:01 am / quote |
Peanut1614 :
Umm you dont need a fifth for maj7 chords? And muting strings can have an advantage is you want to remove, for example, the fifth to give the chord a less 'filled out' feel.
POSTED: 05/27/2007 - 05:54 pm / quote |
AiryckD :
Your lessons are great!! I really hope you write more! A Jazz Chord Part II would be a welcome addition.
POSTED: 06/08/2007 - 09:15 pm / quote |
Grimme :
Thanks.
POSTED: 06/27/2007 - 07:04 am / quote |
GuitarMunky :
for your Major 7th chord voicings: A jazz player would practically never play the voicing you gave. The root is generally avoided in the melody on a maj 7th chord. Also Jazz guitarists more commonly use 4 note voicings and their inversions. If you took out the 1st string and the 5th, you would then have a more commonly used maj 7th jazz voicing. While the chords you list have the "correct" notes in them, they are not presented in a way that is consistant with how jazz players would play them.
POSTED: 07/29/2007 - 01:30 pm / quote |
fatboy1969 :
outstanding lesson thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and talent i learned
POSTED: 09/01/2007 - 11:25 am / quote |
paynee89 :
Wow - i understand all that but applying it to the guitar will take me ages, i play trumpet currently and have jus picked up the guitar... great lesson though - hope i'm that good in a few years. Haha
POSTED: 10/26/2007 - 03:33 pm / quote |
flaccid james :
in the minor 7th chord section, shouldnt that last chord (8888xx) be A#m7 and not a Cm7?
POSTED: 11/29/2007 - 09:45 pm / quote |
coffeeguy9 :
^Nope, the seventh is in the bass in that chord.

Btw guys, some of the chord shapes aren't meant to be played exactly how they are written here, more like to show you where certain intervals would be. like that first maj7 voicing, its impossible and impractical, but still you can use it to find a voicing that fits. I mean, it's jazz, make it your own.

POSTED: 11/29/2007 - 10:31 pm / quote |
miller30times :
kind of sort of confused but expected when i just learn regular chords...lol and i only have 5 figures not 12 or so...well it looks like u need 12 figures alot of frets to be held at once...i'm such a nob..but i'll just keep playing reading, studing playing some more reading some more and i'm sure i'll get it all some day...only been playing for 4 months shrugs oh well
POSTED: 02/17/2008 - 11:26 pm / quote |
eaglemike :
this is nice, helped me alot with some stuff ive been trying to work out for a few weeks now... thanks!
POSTED: 07/11/2008 - 01:21 pm / quote |
allislost :
@coffeeguy9

The first maj7 voicing is not impossible. I've been playing that chord in some progressions and it sounds good.

But i do admit that the other voicing provided in the comments is easier to play.

BTW i just found this page... so yeah...


POSTED: 09/26/2008 - 01:55 am / quote |
Thrasher_09 :
I hate the augmented fourth interval, it just damages the whole chord.
POSTED: 10/13/2008 - 07:54 pm / quote |
Punk Poser :
6th Chords and 13th chords are not the same thing. 6th chords are chords with the MAJOR 7th being replaced by the 6th. They can not be used in place of a 7th chord, only a major 7th. 13's can be used in the place of the 7th chord and both have the minor 7th. Also, those barre voicings you provided are not sufficient as jazz chords. Furthermore, your advice is not sufficient for big band guitarists and obviously you still have trouble reading charts because you aren't doing it correctly.
POSTED: 01/10/2009 - 01:19 pm / quote |
quo :
thanks man this really helped me out
POSTED: 01/18/2009 - 04:55 am / quote |
coffeeguy9 :
Punk Poser wrote:

6th Chords and 13th chords are not the same thing. 6th chords are chords with the MAJOR 7th being replaced by the 6th. They can not be used in place of a 7th chord, only a major 7th. 13's can be used in the place of the 7th chord and both have the minor 7th. Also, those barre voicings you provided are not sufficient as jazz chords. Furthermore, your advice is not sufficient for big band guitarists and obviously you still have trouble reading charts because you aren't doing it correctly.


Someone certainly fails to read my comments.

The chords I gave were shapes, not voicings. Sorry for the confusion. You only have to play a few of the notes in some of the shapes I made. The Maj7 one for example, you don't need to play all 6 strings, maybe just the 6th, 4th, and 3rd strings to fill out the chord as needed.

And I assure you, I can read big band music sufficiently. Probably better than you.

POSTED: 04/10/2009 - 10:39 am / quote |
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