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Singing While Playing Guitar

author: SocialismCross date: 04/01/2009 category: correct practice
rating: 8.6 / votes: 41 
POSTED: 04/01/2009 - 11:44 am
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ugmung :
yes, very good lesson. reading, singing, and playing are in all different parts of the brain, and you have to be able to bring all the parts together before you're good at doing them all at once. it's like if they were each on a tip of the triangle, your goal is to bring them to the center we're they're all together.

you have to learn how to focus on singing, while retaining the playing on your guitar. it's very tricky and requires A LOT of practice. so start off with really slow songs with a lot of powerchords, like powerpop. haha.

POSTED: 04/01/2009 - 12:07 pm / quote |
dave742 :
or...get a second guitarist :P
POSTED: 04/01/2009 - 07:44 pm / quote |
CodeXANA :
I find it easier to play and sing by playing chords to get a rhythm. Then try and add intricate tabbing later.

Making a comprimise between fingering and quality for vocality is not always the worst choice...

POSTED: 04/02/2009 - 11:00 am / quote |
k3vin70 :
nice
and you put some metallica
nothing else matters in there nice

POSTED: 04/03/2009 - 03:32 pm / quote |
Diyora-x :
thats a really good lesson (Y)
helped a lot since u also used metallica

POSTED: 04/04/2009 - 05:27 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
thanks guys. it'd be confusing if using examples for "singing and playing" of songs people don't even know.
so i thought i'd use metallica for metallica for guitarists is like english to people from planet earth.

POSTED: 04/06/2009 - 04:25 pm / quote |
TripleSixMetal :
Good lesson! I have not found many lessons on singing while playing guitar anywhere... I am practicing James Hetfield and Dave Mustaine style Singing/playing and it can be damn hard some times... Also sometimes the songs that are fairly easy to play are hard to sing at the same time, like King Nothing, but way faster ones like Battery or Master of Puppets are not that hard...
POSTED: 04/07/2009 - 11:13 am / quote |
weekendlobotomy :
any advice for someone with an almost total inability to sing but with gross amounts of enthusiasm to do so...(cant even growl really)...
POSTED: 04/07/2009 - 02:33 pm / quote |
anonamouslyevil :
excellent lesson. i wish this would have been available to me a few years ago.
i started being able to sing/play 2 songs.....

gotta start somewhere.
thanks again.

POSTED: 04/13/2009 - 02:43 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
Hi thanks a lot for all that positive feedback, and obviously you people are more advanced when it comes to singing, there are people talking mustaine and master of puppets ... and growlong techniquues.
I'm more of an acoustic guitar player when it comes to singing. I was just sharing my technique of how to break in a song to sing it.
So, thanks for the feedback.

POSTED: 04/13/2009 - 10:50 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
break a song to sing*
POSTED: 04/13/2009 - 10:51 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
sorry lots of spelling mistakes.

POSTED: 04/13/2009 - 10:51 pm / quote |
David Blackbird :
weekendlobotomy wrote:

any advice for someone with an almost total inability to sing but with gross amounts of enthusiasm to do so...(cant even growl really)...

He kind of explained what to do, play a note on your guitar and try to match pitch. You could also buy a cheap electronic keyboard (like the ones for kids) and try to match pitches with that, and, if you're really out of tune, try singing into an electronic tuner, there are many freeware and shareware tuners available for download. Btw, nice lesson, good job

POSTED: 04/15/2009 - 12:30 am / quote |
Lotsagrapes :
Cool story bro.
POSTED: 04/17/2009 - 04:48 am / quote |
Alienepidemic25 :
dave742 wrote:

or...get a second guitarist :P


honestly what does that have to do with it?

POSTED: 04/18/2009 - 10:47 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
well i think he means, if you can't sing while playing, simply get another guitarist to play, and you sing
POSTED: 04/19/2009 - 04:30 am / quote |
SocialismCross :
I had been playing guitar for almost 5 years, and for the 1st two years, thats all what i could think, i play the guitar, and get someone else to sing ...
POSTED: 04/19/2009 - 04:32 am / quote |
Ckaliban :
Knockin on Heaven's Door by Bob Dylan. It's an easy song with easy chord changes. Start simple. Then move onto Zepplin, Queen, or GNR.
POSTED: 04/19/2009 - 09:56 pm / quote |
manf :
ive been playing guitar for 0ver 20 years and i still find it hard to sing and play guitar at the same time. my singin isnt that good and i dont even know what my tyle is lol plus im realy shy if anyone is listening. im just gonna practice more singing and find the courage to sing louder
POSTED: 04/29/2009 - 07:11 am / quote |
manf :
lol tyle ? i meant style lol
manf wrote:

ive been playing guitar for 0ver 20 years and i still find it hard to sing and play guitar at the same time. my singin isnt that good and i dont even know what my tyle is lol plus im realy shy if anyone is listening. im just gonna practice more singing and find the courage to sing louder

POSTED: 04/29/2009 - 07:12 am / quote |
NagorRoberts :
Yo. does anyone have any tips for me? i really want to sing in my band, but i have two problems. 1 i have really bad nerves, i get nervous about everything, and 2 i have no idea if i will actually have an ability to sing or scream, as due to my nerves i've never tried. Anybody want to help me. thanks. nice lesson bdw. peace. :
POSTED: 04/30/2009 - 08:41 am / quote |
Billy Kochase :
yeah i can keep rythmn while playing guitar but i am not a good singer but would like to be any sugestions
POSTED: 05/01/2009 - 03:10 pm / quote |
scottishmob :
NagorRoberts wrote:

Yo. does anyone have any tips for me? i really want to sing in my band, but i have two problems. 1 i have really bad nerves, i get nervous about everything, and 2 i have no idea if i will actually have an ability to sing or scream, as due to my nerves i've never tried. Anybody want to help me. thanks. nice lesson bdw. peace. :

Here is the dealy-yo. Sing by yourself first. No one even has to be around. You'll get confident in your singing voice enough so that you won't care if anyone overhears you. Then you'll be confident enough to either take lessons or try singing in your band. I reccommend lessons as you can learn bad habits by just singing without them, but you need some confidence before you will be ready for lessons/ Ultimately your choice, hope it helped.

POSTED: 05/01/2009 - 03:17 pm / quote |
mukumuku :
thanks.. but I wonder why faster song is easier to sing with? is our brain is too genius that we just dont notice, because of what-like downgrade of the speed of the song?
POSTED: 05/11/2009 - 04:16 am / quote |
SocialismCross :
well most likely the faster song you were talking about is a song with less complicated measure (bars) for the music notation of the lyrics.
POSTED: 05/11/2009 - 03:50 pm / quote |
Kino666 :
I started my band Triangle of the Lost at the begin of 2009, with me as singer and the only guitarist.
The bassist is on the same level as me if you talk about playing instruments, and he said it would be better to take a singer without a guitar and myself as guitarist and background (second singer), like if we play fast and dificult the singer sings and when we play slower and eassier I will sing, that's what I wanted to. And so we gonna do it, but thanls for the advice, but I had discovered this myself a half a year a go.

But Now we need a good singer, that can make as much sounds as me with his voice (and not an new waved rocker {Emo}), he must be alternative (Like a modern hippie).
But it's hard to find!

Greetz,
Kevin ''Kino666'' van Dijk

POSTED: 05/12/2009 - 06:00 am / quote |
Kino666 :
Most of the time I sing Exactly the tones you hear at the guitar, or a tone that sounds good with it (Like if you play only the E 2 I sing sometimes the tone of A 9) Just try to hear what's right!
POSTED: 05/12/2009 - 06:05 am / quote |
mukumuku :
any remedy for the slower song w/ continuously changing chords? i really knew the song and how to play it, but when the two combine, it is frustrating...
by the way thnks for the reply before.

POSTED: 05/15/2009 - 11:31 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
ummm focus on part 4 of that lesson.
Try to know exactly when you should attack and sing the 1st word ever. and let your hands play as if you forgot about it. If you can't do that 1st time around, keep playing the whole chords progression without singing, once, and over and over, till you don't have to think of it, your hands just do it .

POSTED: 05/16/2009 - 03:14 am / quote |
mth_1127 :
good lesson!!!
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 08:16 pm / quote |
StewieGriffin93 :
i sing along to Under the Bridge. After the intro, the chords/singing start. I got the guitar part down without even thinking of singing it in the future, but I tried it one time and it was pretty spot-on. It's a pretty easy song, so i recommend it nice lesson!
POSTED: 05/24/2009 - 01:32 am / quote |
on3andth3sam3 :
what about creating a sweet rhythm, along with singing at the same time?i find it annoying to sing to the rhythm, but i can't see any other way to do it, any advice?
POSTED: 07/06/2009 - 01:52 am / quote |
SocialismCross :
hey on3andth3sam3, what exactly do you mean by "sweet" rhythm ?
POSTED: 07/07/2009 - 08:50 pm / quote |
wouldyakindly :
Very useful, especially the stuff about mastering lyrics. I'd like a to see a more advanced one though, cause the aspect of singing/playing that is hardest of all is (in my opinion) strumming a more complex rhythm that conflicts with the rhythm of the vocal line; eg, in polly by nirvana.
POSTED: 07/08/2009 - 07:33 pm / quote |
Metalligirl :
hurrrr i wanna be like james hetfield some day, he can sing while playing difficcult riffs and stuff :c
And he doesn't seem to have any trouble D':

POSTED: 07/08/2009 - 08:09 pm / quote |
Metalligirl :
James is a pretty cool guy. Eh plays while singing and doesn't afraid of anything. lmao.
POSTED: 07/08/2009 - 08:11 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
wouldyakindly wrote:

Very useful, especially the stuff about mastering lyrics. I'd like a to see a more advanced one though, cause the aspect of singing/playing that is hardest of all is (in my opinion) strumming a more complex rhythm that conflicts with the rhythm of the vocal line; eg, in polly by nirvana.


thanks for that positive feedback man. I'll post a more advanced thing once i can put stuff in words. thanks

POSTED: 07/09/2009 - 01:15 am / quote |
SocialismCross :
Metalligirl wrote:

hurrrr i wanna be like james hetfield some day, he can sing while playing difficcult riffs and stuff :c
And he doesn't seem to have any trouble D':


i agree.

POSTED: 07/09/2009 - 01:16 am / quote |
Peacemaker551 :
I think the best person i know of who sings and plays at the same time is Daron Malakian from System of a Down...he's ridiculous >.>
POSTED: 08/20/2009 - 11:04 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
Peacemaker551 wrote:

I think the best person i know of who sings and plays at the same time is Daron Malakian from System of a Down...he's ridiculous >.>


well yeah i agree with you, but IMO i like him as a back up singer, but frontman.. i don't think so.. he adds something when he's a backup, but i'm not sure i'd like to listen to that voice for the main thing..

POSTED: 08/22/2009 - 11:37 am / quote |
Peacemaker551 :
Oh, he's great either way i think, but whether he is better as a backup or lead singer doesn't take away from the fact that he sings while playing some crazy guitar lines...i can't sing like him and i can hardly play some of his lines, and he does both at the same time very well lol
POSTED: 08/23/2009 - 09:18 pm / quote |
SocialismCross :
Peacemaker551 wrote:

Oh, he's great either way i think, but whether he is better as a backup or lead singer doesn't take away from the fact that he sings while playing some crazy guitar lines...i can't sing like him and i can hardly play some of his lines, and he does both at the same time very well lol


i have to agree with that, yeah his riffs are crazy and he can still sing along.

POSTED: 08/24/2009 - 07:56 am / quote |
Sed07 :
Good article man Some of the stuff I found useful, like alternating a scale between the voice and guitar and making a chord using the voice. But despite saying that it's not a singing lesson or a vocal training, u do focus on training the voice more than providing techniques or tips to actually sing along while playing. (I mean, u have 3 long parts for vocal training and then 1 short part for singing along, the latter of which is supposed to be the main purpose of the article)
Personally I think the best way to learn to sing along while playing is to first learn to sing the song, then sing while listening to it. Learn to play it, then play while listening to it. And finally learn to play it while singing, and do that while listening to it. At first, it's not gonna work very well, but then occasionally try to sing and play it without listening to it, and eventually it'll work. That's how i usually learn songs. The first song that I learned to sing while playing was Here Without You by 3 Doors Down. It's not easy for a first song, but it helped me a lot in synchronizing my voice to the guitar.
Currently working on Santeria by Sublime, which a really cool song but a little hard to sing to.

POSTED: 09/21/2009 - 10:22 am / quote |
SocialismCross :
Sed07 wrote:

Good article man Some of the stuff I found useful, like alternating a scale between the voice and guitar and making a chord using the voice. But despite saying that it's not a singing lesson or a vocal training, u do focus on training the voice more than providing techniques or tips to actually sing along while playing. (I mean, u have 3 long parts for vocal training and then 1 short part for singing along, the latter of which is supposed to be the main purpose of the article)
Personally I think the best way to learn to sing along while playing is to first learn to sing the song, then sing while listening to it. Learn to play it, then play while listening to it. And finally learn to play it while singing, and do that while listening to it. At first, it's not gonna work very well, but then occasionally try to sing and play it without listening to it, and eventually it'll work. That's how i usually learn songs. The first song that I learned to sing while playing was Here Without You by 3 Doors Down. It's not easy for a first song, but it helped me a lot in synchronizing my voice to the guitar.
Currently working on Santeria by Sublime, which a really cool song but a little hard to sing to.


Well what you're saying is right dude. But i thought that the reason you mess up "singing along" is that sometimes you can't even sing without the guitar, musical wise. For me, i like to have Good singing into 2 dimensions. 1st is the raw material of your voice, 2nd is techinques, if you can get the right notes for example. If you can't get the right notes, you won't be able to sing along an instrument.

POSTED: 09/23/2009 - 11:31 am / quote |
SocialismCross :
And the lesson was kinda going in an ascending direction towards actually singing along. Stuff you gotta do till the practice of singing along, and what you need to do. I Know it's kinda not so much about singing along.
And yeah 3 doors down's here without you was one of the songs i wanted to sing along too bad when i was starting. it took me a while too.

I will check out sublime's santeria.

POSTED: 09/23/2009 - 11:35 am / quote |
Bean92 :
something i find very helpfull if your trying to learn to sing and play a specific song is, to hum the vocal notes without actually saying the words while playing. its a good way to start.
POSTED: 11/04/2009 - 11:55 am / quote |
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