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Learning Music Theory. The Beginning

author: slash_pwns date: 10/06/2005 category: for beginners
rating: 9.1 / votes: 435 
POSTED: 10/06/2005 - 09:17 am
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 comments posted, 22 removed | this article is 94% spam-free
Freepower :
Good stuff, you know my views on this.
POSTED: 10/06/2005 - 09:35 am / quote |
metal4all :
It's very long but worth reading.
POSTED: 10/06/2005 - 02:10 pm / quote |
xtremepunk0024 :
Very long buts looks good and is very useful to read. learnig music theory helped me alot w/ my playing.
POSTED: 10/06/2005 - 04:20 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
slash_pwns pwns
POSTED: 10/06/2005 - 07:00 pm / quote |
shadows666 :
Thank you so much for this lesson! I have been looking everywhere for someone to explain theory in a way that I would understand it!!! Thanks again and keep this good shit coming!!!\m/
POSTED: 10/07/2005 - 05:24 pm / quote |
spazzymagee :
good lesson, i think this is much better than buying books on the subject. cheers dude. long live Zakk Wylde and Guinness
POSTED: 10/08/2005 - 06:14 am / quote |
AnthonyZ Great :
That is not necessary.You can just listen to your favourite songs and just create a chord to play.Music is about creativity.Be natural and play emotionally!Give it a shot!!
POSTED: 10/08/2005 - 07:02 am / quote |
Soma3009 :
Thanks, this is the first lesson on the Site that finally explains how scales work well. All of the other ones just give you some patterns without telling us why. Thanks man, this greatly improved my improvsation.
POSTED: 10/08/2005 - 03:15 pm / quote |
9mmpainpill :
Great lesson. This is the first time i've ever seen this explained to where its actually understandable.
POSTED: 10/08/2005 - 11:32 pm / quote |
9mmpainpill :
HAHAHA Wrong Smiley.
POSTED: 10/08/2005 - 11:33 pm / quote |
viciodk :
slash_pwns: As mentioned before in another thread, you should remember that the vi chord in a diatonic major key, can be extended to _m11(b13) - NOT _m13 due to the b6 of Aeolian

Also remember that the 5th is an optional note for 7th to 13th chords.

And I just hate when people reverse the circle of fifths

POSTED: 10/09/2005 - 08:12 am / quote |
gdm09 :
mr slash_pwns, i love you.
POSTED: 10/09/2005 - 08:12 pm / quote |
DropD_Todd :
This is the best article on music theory yet thanks dude

POSTED: 10/10/2005 - 03:13 am / quote |
guitarshredder1 :
this is bs you copied this i know it
POSTED: 10/10/2005 - 11:13 pm / quote |
ProjectDark :
Wow this is very in depth
and i don't know wtf he talking about:o
any great stuff i gotta print this out

POSTED: 10/11/2005 - 11:15 am / quote |
 
 m 
  :
guitarshredder1
wrote:
this is bs you copied this i know it

No, he wrote it. Don't be a douchebag.

POSTED: 10/11/2005 - 05:53 pm / quote |
 
 m 
  :
chink nigger, you are warned. No more racist comments.
POSTED: 10/13/2005 - 03:40 pm / quote |
Pon :
I havent played guitar for very long but this article doesn't explain concepts well. I've learned much of this elsewhere, explained with more clarity!

Maybe it's a good reference or theory review, but its not for Newbies-- at least not this one.

POSTED: 10/15/2005 - 03:51 pm / quote |
nightside :
HAHA, what a headache i got from readign this!
Maybe i do not speak english fluent, but seem to be ****ed up, so much text, and i don`t undertsand you some times. Every smart person, don`t need this in an own creativity.

POSTED: 10/16/2005 - 12:54 pm / quote |
legions :
VERY good lesson dude, it explains music theory the best out of any of the previous UG lessons.
good work.
and i suppose.
this is not for n00bs.
so HA.

POSTED: 10/17/2005 - 08:04 pm / quote |
hanesh :
hi everyone..i just wanna ask...must we learn classical guitar b4 learning electric guitar??
POSTED: 10/19/2005 - 09:16 pm / quote |
slayerman :
very good, indepth article. I learnt a lot.
POSTED: 10/20/2005 - 09:24 am / quote |
AlexWaterman :
well, learning classical guitar is probably the last thing i would wana do, and i figure playint this on my electric would be the same thing. I also appreciate how legions is applying the cs term 'n00b' to every day life. GJ man.
POSTED: 10/20/2005 - 04:14 pm / quote |
AlexWaterman :
when i get around to completely reading and comprehending this article i am sure it will be extremely helpful

POSTED: 10/20/2005 - 04:15 pm / quote |
Scifischizo4 :
Very good, man. As a musician myself (and Music Education Major), I really have issues with the low level of actual musical knowlage of many guitar players. Hopefully this will help raise understanding of music. And for those few who are all going on about just "listnening and being creative" it helps A LOT if you actually know what you are doing. Granted, sometimes you get lucky, but you can't just randomly play notes and have everything turn out right!

Good job, man, much better than one I made a bit ago, keep it up.

POSTED: 10/23/2005 - 07:19 pm / quote |
Pipan :
What does he mean with "the notes only go to G" in the introduction?

How do I find out what "sharps (#) and flats (b)" is?

POSTED: 10/25/2005 - 11:30 am / quote |
newcomer :
Fu*king awesome information, i'm printing this, i wondered how to get a spanish sound out of my axe.
POSTED: 10/25/2005 - 01:31 pm / quote |
bangyourhead :
Pipan, he means that there are no more notes after G.
Notes: A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#

POSTED: 10/25/2005 - 06:41 pm / quote |
ThoseThreeWords :
9mmpainpill wrote:

Great lesson. This is the first time i've ever seen this explained to where its actually understandable.

POSTED: 10/30/2005 - 11:40 am / quote |
ThoseThreeWords :
great lesson, alot better than my teacher could have given me, got to get round to remembering it all, but goodjob(Y), hats off to you
POSTED: 10/30/2005 - 11:41 am / quote |
learner656 :
This lesson seems to jump from section 10.3 to 11.4 Is there something wrong with my browser? Or are those vital parts missing? Great lesson, don't want to miss out on those sections.
POSTED: 10/31/2005 - 02:00 am / quote |
learner656 :
This lesson seems to be missing its sections from 10.3 to 11.4. Is theresomething wrong with my browser or are they not there? This is a great lesson and i don't want to miss out.
POSTED: 10/31/2005 - 02:01 am / quote |
metal4all :
^you're right u crazy bastard. you're probably the only person that saw that. wow
POSTED: 11/01/2005 - 01:41 pm / quote |
Vantage :
man thanks a lot.....a very great article!
POSTED: 11/02/2005 - 09:53 am / quote |
abigape :
oh man information overload
[Brain melts]

POSTED: 11/02/2005 - 02:56 pm / quote |
clifford13 :
nice one!!!!! 10 stars

POSTED: 11/02/2005 - 11:56 pm / quote |
Johnljones7443 :
Brilliant lesson.

POSTED: 11/03/2005 - 05:08 pm / quote |
benwahballs :
ive stared at this...this monster of a lesson for so long (at a certain part) but my brain continues to not work.
POSTED: 11/04/2005 - 01:29 pm / quote |
one trick pony :
wow... finally a lesson that makes sense and gets me excited about theory,
POSTED: 11/04/2005 - 01:29 pm / quote |
emu_kid :
cheers man
im always looking for theory but can never find anything good
this is tops
wats the diffrence between a tube amp and a normal one

POSTED: 11/05/2005 - 09:30 pm / quote |
DMCrimson :
This is the best lesson ever. Period.
POSTED: 11/07/2005 - 11:39 pm / quote |
gothikchile13 :
Awesome job, I learned a lot!
POSTED: 11/08/2005 - 11:25 am / quote |
dimebag7 :
it was good

POSTED: 11/09/2005 - 05:00 pm / quote |
Scourge441 :
Best. Lesson. Ever.

I still don't get the circle of fifths, though.

POSTED: 11/11/2005 - 05:29 pm / quote |
dneck :
11.0 - Applying #1-9 on the guitar Introduction
11.1 - Applying 'What Intervals and Steps are'
11.2 - Applying 'Understanding the Chromatic Scale'
11.3 - Applying 'The major scale and Triads'

those sections are all missing otherwise this has been really awsome and helpful

POSTED: 11/12/2005 - 12:08 pm / quote |
dneck :
11.0 - Applying #1-9 on the guitar Introduction
11.1 - Applying 'What Intervals and Steps are'
11.2 - Applying 'Understanding the Chromatic Scale'
11.3 - Applying 'The major scale and Triads'

Those sections are all missing. Otherwise this was really awsome and helpful.

POSTED: 11/12/2005 - 12:09 pm / quote |
Lysol :
sweet

POSTED: 11/14/2005 - 06:30 pm / quote |
yoannalover :
Great and cool love it fanx
POSTED: 11/15/2005 - 11:44 pm / quote |
Spacessj :
nice
POSTED: 11/16/2005 - 08:20 am / quote |
Cromok :
i dont understand a thing this guy said....
:3)

POSTED: 11/17/2005 - 02:19 am / quote |
applax :
I understood it until he got to the circle of 5ths then it seemed like he just started taking big logical jumps that people like me who are just starting out on theory really need to be talked through everything
POSTED: 11/17/2005 - 09:59 am / quote |
benwahballs :
the interval reference chart is where im stuck. what if u made the first note a B?!!! try it it doesnt work because with the b2 u cant flatten C. help me
POSTED: 11/19/2005 - 12:41 am / quote |
nab_guitarist :
Strange.: couldnt get the Interval ChaRT!!
POSTED: 11/20/2005 - 08:47 am / quote |
kurt.aint.dead :
wow! awesome crap man! how the hell do you come up with these lessons??
you should get paid for this...or better yet, publish a book!

POSTED: 11/21/2005 - 03:43 am / quote |
ErgoBruce :
dude this is super, helped me loads thx
POSTED: 11/21/2005 - 12:34 pm / quote |
dunno85 :
Sick lesson man, being a music major you really hit the key factors. Bravo
POSTED: 11/21/2005 - 12:50 pm / quote |
wamiq :
hey, where's 11-11.3???
POSTED: 11/21/2005 - 08:11 pm / quote |
wamiq :
hey, where's 11-11.3??
POSTED: 11/21/2005 - 08:11 pm / quote |
wamiq :
oops, sorry for posting thrice. but seriously, where are they?
POSTED: 11/21/2005 - 08:12 pm / quote |
EmeraldICE :
Isn't your Circle of Fifths backwards? Or am I mistaken?
POSTED: 11/24/2005 - 09:46 pm / quote |
EmeraldICE :
Oh, GREAT lesson btw, I'm about half way through and let me tell you, I have been trying to learn this stuff for quite some time now, but this lesson makes it so much easier. I just got a little confused with the Co5, i think it's backwards, but I was able to convert what you said to the Co5 that I know, so it's all good.
Thanks for the awesome lesson.

POSTED: 11/24/2005 - 09:50 pm / quote |
Greenday4Life :
i have been playing for about 3 months and i find this whole thing VERY difficult to follow
POSTED: 11/26/2005 - 05:24 pm / quote |
playerwannabe :
Ahh, yes we can expect all the work to be done for us and we do. These types of sites are not written for those whom already know. It's a place for those people to dumb it down and make it simpler than what they had to learn by. If you can't right an article about music theory for beginers in a manor that will oversimplify it then it probably should not be written for beginners. If you already know music theory then you already know how difficult it can be to grasp so why not oversimplify it if it will help bring this apparently necessary aspect of playing to us noob's. By the way I've been playing for 20 some odd years and just recently wanted to start trying to play good, I want to improvise, you know pick up a guitar and just throw something down and it sounds cool as hell, like Zakk W., so my endevors have lead me to this article as it always leads me to having to learn theory and everytime I try I fail to understand it enough but I keep trudging on and every little bit helps, If I don't understand it from one article I always am able to find it explained differently and it works but the best ones are dumbed down.

to lozzer - sir/ma'am you sound like the kind of music teacher that causes students to quit in the early stages try being a part of the solution.

POSTED: 11/27/2005 - 01:29 am / quote |
slash_pwns :
Thanks for all the comments guys. I'm not really active here anymore, but if you need help DONT PM ME. Send me an email at webmaster@cdesigns-media.net!

lozzer: People come here to learn, as I did. I learned and then I wanted to produce a lesson to convey what I learned at this site alone, in an easy to read format. I made this so people could read it and enjoy it. So can you just fuck off and stop telling people that they're idiots! You have got the be the biggest douche bag I've seen here period. The people reading this are obviously looking for a good resource to learn how to play guitar/music. Stop ruining it for the people who want to learn. Sure you can buy a book, or listen to a teacher, but this is free. If you can find a better beginner's music theory lesson than the one above, then by all means you can continue to troll other peoples writings and put others down. But untill then you can shove it.

And about 11.0-11.3... I'll post the master copy of the lesson (yes... I wrote it) on my site if I still have it.

POSTED: 11/27/2005 - 05:17 pm / quote |
lozzer :
i never said it was bad, i said it was good! LISTEN TO ME!
im not tryin to insult anyone, just sayin youll get more out of a teacher if you find a good one. this is all good but teachers set you targets. that all.
sorry if i came accross arogant, its hard to put a point across when youre just typing. youre not understandin what im sayin so forget it, im not that bothered.

POSTED: 11/28/2005 - 05:14 am / quote |
lozzer :
i never said it was a bad site, a few times i said it was good. LISTEN TO ME!
just sayin a teacher will set u targets if u find a good one. sorry if i came accross arogant, its hard to put a point accross when youre just typing. youre not understanding me so forget it, im not that bothered

POSTED: 11/28/2005 - 05:17 am / quote |
lozzer :
whoops did it twice, you dont have to listen that much, just the amount of one comment.
POSTED: 11/28/2005 - 05:18 am / quote |
RonBurgundy130 :
i'm 14 and don't understand any of this, i think i agree with the guy above, not that its a bad lesson, from the looks of it its a great lesson, i think its something that needs to be explained in person.
POSTED: 11/30/2005 - 04:36 pm / quote |
mglasco :
wow this was the most confusing and poorly written text on music theory I've ever read. Not that you don't know your stuff. I mean I'm pretty good with music theory already but you make things a lot harder than they have to be.
POSTED: 11/30/2005 - 10:09 pm / quote |
showbiz-legend :
you could check out amazon for a book called fretboard roadmaps, it explains a lot of this really well and is nice to have at hand rather than looking on this site. be that as it may this is a really good article and i doth my cap to you sir
POSTED: 12/02/2005 - 12:54 pm / quote |
showbiz-legend :
wrong smiley
POSTED: 12/02/2005 - 12:54 pm / quote |
Oma :
im one of those guys who saw someone playing a so-called 'guitar' and told myself: hey, i think i wanna learn to play a 'guitar'.. and after 4 years of struggling and self-teaching in my room, i must say that beginners here (specially me) are very blessed having this article of yours... THANKS MAN!!

applause!! applause!! applause!!

POSTED: 12/06/2005 - 07:07 pm / quote |
powerhead :
Uhm.... i think you messed up the circle of fifths...

POSTED: 12/08/2005 - 11:54 am / quote |
Hong Siah :
you helped me out a lot dude, with that lesson of yours..and all i can do here is thank you...

*sniff*im so touch*sniff*

lol

POSTED: 12/11/2005 - 02:19 am / quote |
Night_Lights :
what does


_7 and such mean? what is a dominant chord?

POSTED: 12/11/2005 - 08:50 pm / quote |
dime the legend :
man ive spent all my time just reading tabs and learning them but i never new what they actually meant. i mean i think myself that i am pretty decent i can play anything from classic rock to new from country to the blues to funk. but i never knew what any of it meant. thanks man now i have a little better view
POSTED: 12/12/2005 - 01:39 am / quote |
luvarmenians :
I'm not going to read all of that!
POSTED: 12/12/2005 - 03:53 pm / quote |
luvarmenians :
(sorry)
POSTED: 12/12/2005 - 03:54 pm / quote |
arsonite :
Read the whole friggin thing!! I hate people who just skim over things and then complain that they don't understand it. It is a complicated thing, but can be easily learned by actually going through the whole thing and practicing it. Very good lesson.


POSTED: 12/15/2005 - 08:44 am / quote |
flipfox_redoubt :
looks like the whole thing is just another math formula... ;p
*boring/*

POSTED: 12/16/2005 - 10:16 pm / quote |
Dookie_1988 :
I swear that circle of fifths circle is wrong... It looks as if you're saying a 5th from E is A, when A is the 4th in a key of E... B is the 5th...
POSTED: 12/19/2005 - 06:37 am / quote |
Random dude :
This article helped me alot. I likes how there were two differents ways you could learn( steps or intervals ) I also found that mode dictonary very helpful. Good Job
POSTED: 12/20/2005 - 04:56 pm / quote |
notanotherfruit :
well...i knew a lot about how to play...and i've been playing since i was 7 but this actually helpped me bone up on some of the things i forgot...thankx man
POSTED: 12/20/2005 - 07:09 pm / quote |
Bobather_909 :
Musically, good, but I was a bit anoyed to be called a begginner near the start of it all, it just makes you seem big headed, and just before it, you said the guide was aimed at both beginners and people who just want to refresh everything in their heads, sorry, but I just hate bad writing.
POSTED: 12/21/2005 - 06:56 am / quote |
Bobather_909 :
("I will go into each and every one of these so you, the beginner can understand them.")
POSTED: 12/21/2005 - 06:57 am / quote |
HeadBaNGeR1947 :
boo u suc

POSTED: 12/21/2005 - 08:55 pm / quote |
pilotinspector :
huh? im sorry i just had to post
POSTED: 12/27/2005 - 09:23 pm / quote |
sumguy67 :
long but really good
POSTED: 12/28/2005 - 06:18 pm / quote |
acdc fanatic :
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617;fjkdsnfdsnf huh? still stumped

POSTED: 12/29/2005 - 08:49 pm / quote |
Sadam :
Good stuff
POSTED: 12/30/2005 - 09:23 am / quote |
dash_right :
aint yer circle of fifths backwards?
POSTED: 12/30/2005 - 03:40 pm / quote |
Satan6 :
Great lesson man ,really useful!
POSTED: 01/02/2006 - 12:30 pm / quote |
gitarakista :
this lesson must be copied and be pasted to my notepad right now!: grr:
POSTED: 01/03/2006 - 06:13 am / quote |
gitarakista :
ey you must put a summary of this thing... it gets me tired reading this coz its to long. also, explain clearer, anyway keep it up.
POSTED: 01/03/2006 - 07:17 am / quote |
Night_Lights :
ahhhhh its missing some parts!~
POSTED: 01/04/2006 - 12:44 pm / quote |
Guitarded8988 :
a point has been made about teachers being better sources. Although I agree, many posters find themselves frustrated because they do not have the self-discipline to sit down and really try and learn this stuff. My suggestion: younger players who would likely have loads of questions and difficulty translating this into tangible guitar work, seek a teacher if you can afford it. otherwise, this is a great, FREE article on music theory. Although I would debate the fact that it's for beginners. I would say it covers a very broad range of music theory.
POSTED: 01/04/2006 - 08:37 pm / quote |
WhippinPinsta :
Thanks a lot!!!!! This was exactly what i was looking for!
POSTED: 01/05/2006 - 12:25 pm / quote |
blitzballer1 :
wot a tip top article, even tho ur cirlce offifths is backwards...
POSTED: 01/06/2006 - 06:03 am / quote |
Chairoi :
I have been playing for a year now with previous experience of music theory (was in band for 4 years) and this article is simply amazing, thanks alot man, I was very confuse on modes, but you cleared that up fast, however I am still confused on diatonic blah blah blah :3 But VERY good article *bows before slash*
POSTED: 01/06/2006 - 08:13 pm / quote |
Chairoi :
and yes the co5 is backwards ^^ but still accurate
POSTED: 01/06/2006 - 08:14 pm / quote |
Chairoi :
and a tip for modes, if you know how to find the key signature, look at the mode formula so you don't feel like relearning a scale pattern. ex. c in dorian mode is basically a Bb scale except with C as the root note (c d Eb f g a Bb c) same with Locrian mode, it is in the Db key... just start on the C for a C key sounding mode :3 hope that helps anyone
POSTED: 01/06/2006 - 08:16 pm / quote |
slash_pwns :
Hey Guys,

I don't have time to read through all the comments but most of the feedback seems good, thanks! Heres some things I've noticed.

Yes, sections are missing. I'm working on it.

No, the Co5 isn't backwards. It works EITHER way. I learned it this way.

It is very long, but stick it out, it'll be worth it.

And I assure you, it is explained in depth (for whoever wante more explaining.

Also, keep those emails coming, I enjoy reading them and helping!

POSTED: 01/07/2006 - 08:54 pm / quote |
namtetsuya :
I don't understand the whole thing 8(
help me!

POSTED: 01/09/2006 - 05:27 am / quote |
speed_freek :
i dont understand the intervals... a perfect interval inverts to a perfect interval? what does tht mean? wats a perfect interval anyway?
POSTED: 01/10/2006 - 03:51 pm / quote |
jackson_marshal :
I DONT UNDERSTAND THE INTERVALS AT ALL
POSTED: 01/10/2006 - 07:21 pm / quote |
jackson_marshal :
nw i got it thats awesome thanksalot
POSTED: 01/10/2006 - 10:26 pm / quote |
Glennjoe :
Well Done Slash_pwns, This article has been very usefull
POSTED: 01/11/2006 - 01:05 pm / quote |
sixstringz :
Great article, i took a semester of theory in college, and this covers is much better than what was tossed to us in that class. Cheers
POSTED: 01/13/2006 - 04:15 pm / quote |
sevendayloss :
i barely read the introduction but tommorow when i have time im deffinatley reading it
:cheers:

POSTED: 01/13/2006 - 10:42 pm / quote |
california girl :
that was a really good lesson. it was more so general reading, and brushing up for me. i have loads of music books that i spent cash on(if only i had known,lol). im adding this to my favorites. thanks for a good lesson.
POSTED: 01/14/2006 - 01:46 pm / quote |
MeatPuppets22 :
Who gives a ****? This shit sucks the fun out of music and makes it robotic. I would rather suckass at guitar than have a huge ****ing head full of knowledge so I can sit around with all this knowledge and talk to other *******s about it. Fuck theory and **** music. Fuck Joe Satriani, you think Skip James went to music school? If you love music, trully love music, you would play enough to get your own UNIQUE understanding of music, not a text-book understanding.
POSTED: 01/15/2006 - 02:49 pm / quote |
robertreilly666 :
wow that helped alot, i was struggling with theory cos im only just beginging to be interested in how music works and MeatPuppets22 knows nothing.
i bet he has a great "understanding of music"

POSTED: 01/16/2006 - 05:30 pm / quote |
ooblah :
whoaa!!! meat puppet did not just say **** satriani, i dont care if you dont like the article, or you think using the tool of theory isnt for you, but never ****ing put down the satch man. I hope someone hunts you down and sticks a hot poker in your meat puppet. By the way, great article!
POSTED: 01/16/2006 - 10:51 pm / quote |
handlerb :
I wonder what that guy was ****ing out. He had no problem dropping the f-bomb, repeatedly. Either way, Meat Puppets, you are a ****ing idiot. Unique understanding of music? Hey dumbass, unless you want to make up your own version of music theory, there is only one understanding, and its written above.

Oh yeah, and Skip James was taught basic music theory by an older guitar player named Henry Stuckey. I agree with the guy above me, I hope somebody with a cattle prod finds you. P.S. Good article, I recommend beginning guitarists save this page, and refer to it as you get better. Things will start to make sense.

POSTED: 01/17/2006 - 09:28 pm / quote |
slash_pwns :
rofl, and I'm sure you play what sounds good to you? People like you, MeatPuppet make me laugh. You don't even realize you're using this!

Missing sections are on their way!

POSTED: 01/18/2006 - 04:49 pm / quote |
Metallica122 :
WTF?! This makes no sense to noobs, its only understandable if you already kno music theory! It dont explain a thng, complete waste of time for learners
POSTED: 01/20/2006 - 04:23 pm / quote |
powerhead :
EmeraldICE wrote:

Isn't your Circle of Fifths backwards? Or am I mistaken?


yeh. And i think one or 2 things may be incorrect...

Wow, meatpuppets, don't take this the wrong way, but you are seriously naive and missinformed.

POSTED: 01/21/2006 - 07:32 am / quote |
Mortigi Tempo :
it looks good, pity I dont understand any of it
POSTED: 01/21/2006 - 10:33 am / quote |
SGdude452 :
WOW thats frickin long
POSTED: 01/23/2006 - 02:24 pm / quote |
TyphoidSpider :
im pretty much totally new to theory but i think i get most of it. great article.
POSTED: 01/24/2006 - 06:59 pm / quote |
corybott :
good article, but maybe you shouldve mentioned the minor scale before explaining triads because really a minor triad is the 1st 3rd and 5th of the minor scale, not 1 b3 and 5 of the major. No difference really, but it is useful to remember that a regular triad is 135, and relate it to either the minor scale or the major scale.
POSTED: 01/24/2006 - 11:35 pm / quote |
flyblow :
for all those people saying "i think the Co5 is the wrong way round" it is.
POSTED: 01/26/2006 - 09:16 am / quote |
m3cadet :
I still don't get most of this.
POSTED: 01/26/2006 - 05:45 pm / quote |
scottishmob :
What a great lesson. I'll have to read through and memorize all this stuff...
POSTED: 01/29/2006 - 01:52 am / quote |
Sput :
Ok Great article but how do sus4 type chords fit into the equation from above?????

Tnanks,


Sputnik

POSTED: 01/31/2006 - 11:33 am / quote |
alex12 :
hmmm... O_o anymore articles for newbies? can anybody suggest sumthin...? like a book or another thread or whatever..? tnx!
POSTED: 02/01/2006 - 09:46 pm / quote |
Mortigi Tempo :
Mortigi Tempo wrote:

it looks good, pity I dont understand any of it

I retract my statement now that I take the time to look at it for more than 5 minutes it makes perfect sense and is really useful and better than Ive seen in any book so people like meatpupets are horribly wrong

POSTED: 02/04/2006 - 05:01 pm / quote |
Mortigi Tempo :
as for circle of fifths I reccomend working out how to make major and minor scales with steps before looking at circle of fifths but meh
POSTED: 02/04/2006 - 05:20 pm / quote |
wasp2020 :
Meatpuppets, so sorry to ehar all that incredible talent going to waste because you know absolutely nothing about music theory. You will never be able to compose anything of your proper potential or do impressive improvisations and jam sessions, until you at the very least know some simple damned theory. I don't take any lessons either, and one of my worst nightmares is if anything were to happen to me that would take away my playing, but come on.

And Satriani's music is not some robotic series of random notes. Although some of his solos are hard to follow, most of his themes are CATCHY for gods sake. And all while showing exemplary knowledge of music theory. You tell me One Big Rush doesn't stick in your head. Music Theory is there to help you, it's not just for rich snobs who are forced into learning violin or whoever else you think you're more human than, just because you don't learn some simple damn music theory.

POSTED: 02/06/2006 - 08:07 am / quote |
wonko the sane :
I kinda agree with meatpuppets and you others... I've bin playin guitar for nearly a year, and dont know a thing about theory. My friend tells me to learn it, but I dont want to. Everything I get good at, ppl tell me I'm doing it wrong, and want me to learn it the 'right' way... I like just messin about with my guitar, and writin down what sounds good. It's probably the same as above, but havin someone tell me about it suks... Just play around with ur guitars and have fun!!! (no offense to anyone...)
POSTED: 02/07/2006 - 05:50 am / quote |
Dime_1966-2004 :
I've been playing just over a year and have only just decided I really need to learn theory. Now I've just figured out the pentatonic scales and how they work, I've only just skimmed across this lesson and was wondering should I have learnt the major scales before the pentatonic major and minor, or do they follow the same rules?
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 08:22 pm / quote |
Dime_1966-2004 :
HELP ME!!!!!
POSTED: 02/08/2006 - 08:25 pm / quote |
Archon_TheReal :
I'm 18 and I've been playing music for the past 8 years (guitar for 4 of those). I have to say that this stuff is really important. Yes meatpuppets you can say that theory makes you robotic, but that only happens if you suck. Having this kind of knowledge allows you to improvise AND NOT SUCK. Oh and dime, It doesnt really matter. I learnt my pentatonic scales first (cause i used them a lot) and they dont follow the same rules, so whichever way you choose should be fine.
POSTED: 02/13/2006 - 01:53 am / quote |
 
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MeatPuppets22 wrote:

Go study some scales you useless, ...

spam. deleted. if i had caught it earlier ud be warned too.

POSTED: 02/14/2006 - 06:40 pm / quote |
hehepupitre :
I don't get a word of any of this. If someone could create a lesson that actually showed it in terms of fret useage on the guitar itself I'd love them to death. Saying that they're relative because of this fret and this scale blah blah. Let's look at this scale now with the sharps and flats and stuff. **** I don't get that. If you make it step by step, I quote "I don't like to use steps", the only reason you don't do that is because you understand theory. Lots of people don't. I hated this lesson and barely understood a word of it.
POSTED: 02/14/2006 - 07:21 pm / quote |
RustyGold :
slash_pwns...AWESOME JOB MAN. Everything I needed, in a compact, easy to read format.

10/10

POSTED: 02/16/2006 - 08:20 pm / quote |
 
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for specific questions, visit the guitar basics section in the forums. ~UG staff
POSTED: 02/17/2006 - 09:50 am / quote |
mfkr :
Woah what the ****.

Seriously, I couldn't understand any of the first part I read.

POSTED: 02/17/2006 - 11:28 am / quote |
axe o power :
great lesson
POSTED: 02/18/2006 - 06:13 pm / quote |
timmyjbone :
Music theory is is hard to understand, thats all i got to say.
POSTED: 02/18/2006 - 06:14 pm / quote |
axe o power :
this is great i love this lesson. To all you noobys at guitar you should probably have a good under standing of all the notes on the neck and for all you guys whow cant understand this it would help if you printed out this and a neck diagram of all the notes on it and print out all the scales then you should have no problem understanding it.In closing this is one of the most valuable things iv ever ben taught. including"math reading ect."
POSTED: 02/18/2006 - 09:57 pm / quote |
krazy kresta :
Awsome! Great help
POSTED: 02/20/2006 - 09:49 pm / quote |
Jaykib :
Thankyou so much, this will all be going to good use.
POSTED: 02/26/2006 - 07:01 pm / quote |
Duce1973 :
I hate music theory, its dry and hard to read most of the time. Many times its not on a level that total beginners can understand and retain. This lesson is the best that I've seen in both web and book based lessons. Like anything else that is complex, you must read this lesson more than once. Read it several especially areas which are confusing, this will allow you to understand and retain this great information.
I'm very thankful to the author, your time and effort are much ablidged.

POSTED: 03/05/2006 - 08:13 am / quote |
Rosencrantz :
Oh my Hell Thats huge!
I think I'll wait till im at home to read it instead of my German Class.

POSTED: 03/08/2006 - 11:28 am / quote |
mayin :
uhhh.. i don¿t get it. i'm such a noob.. this sucks
POSTED: 03/08/2006 - 04:51 pm / quote |
Chancelor101 :
this is harder than algebra
POSTED: 03/08/2006 - 08:26 pm / quote |
Disturber456 :
i nedd help i need people to email me easy song pls im a beginer. my email is Disturber@AOL.com

POSTED: 03/10/2006 - 04:57 pm / quote |
Leper_messiah :
im a beginner and im confused about major triads and minor triads
POSTED: 03/21/2006 - 07:24 pm / quote |
ourlastday :
dude....love the lesson..best detail ive seen in a lesson, definetly helped me.. perfect 10
POSTED: 03/23/2006 - 06:03 pm / quote |
perfectionist :
i did understand these lessons except the interval guide. damn! please give some examples on other notes cuz u only give example on note C please!
POSTED: 03/23/2006 - 09:17 pm / quote |
Outlaw-theo :
This is just the beginning? Gahhhhh....
Thanks though, this'll help out a lot.

POSTED: 04/03/2006 - 01:06 am / quote |
omgelliot :
you seemed to have explained steps a whole lot better than intervals in my eyes. im sure its all good if you have some background music theory but this isnt for music theory beginners.

you dont make it clear enough if your dealing with chords or notes half the time. it might just be me, ive had a long day.

POSTED: 04/07/2006 - 11:30 am / quote |
 
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POSTED: 04/08/2006 - 09:48 am / quote |
Petersky :
It was and it is very useful ti me
POSTED: 04/08/2006 - 10:03 am / quote |
GNR-4-Ever :
wow.....long. Probably nearly as good as stuff in books.
POSTED: 04/12/2006 - 06:13 am / quote |
Matt_Malmsteen :
Thats a great lesson, I was learning this stuff from a book earlier and this has just, explained it alot better than that.
POSTED: 04/12/2006 - 05:51 pm / quote |
imranoo :
wonderful!!!!!
POSTED: 04/15/2006 - 12:34 pm / quote |
awie666 :
this articel was really good man..this is really helping..:m
POSTED: 04/16/2006 - 11:47 am / quote |
Vantage :
nice article.....i feel stupid now..=(
POSTED: 04/17/2006 - 03:52 am / quote |
frazer666 :
I was bored so i read a newbie kinda article by this guy, who is really good btw, and i learnt a couple of things. but one question when do you ever use traids? i have never used them knowingly myself...
9/10 again

POSTED: 04/17/2006 - 05:04 am / quote |
matt..m :
AAAAHHHH!!!!!...i dont really understand the interval crazyness
POSTED: 04/22/2006 - 08:05 pm / quote |
Darkened-Soul :
Thanks for the lesson.
POSTED: 04/28/2006 - 06:18 pm / quote |
rock_star92 :
i do not understand the intervals thingo its crazy. lol even tho im not a total beginner i still dunno wat ya on about haha
POSTED: 05/05/2006 - 05:10 am / quote |
Santakill :
Thanks dude this lesson helped me so much... it took a while to read and the interval thing was kind of confusing but i liked the chord construction part
POSTED: 05/06/2006 - 05:58 pm / quote |
mfkr :
Lol that was so not for beginers I gave up at the Interval thing.
POSTED: 05/10/2006 - 02:48 pm / quote |
sevendayloss :
this is really good
10 out of 10
its not the best for beginners, but it set me a really good foundation, ive been learning theory for a couple months and that just cleared up so many things

deffinatley worth reading
more theory lessons? please?
:cheers:

POSTED: 05/26/2006 - 09:07 pm / quote |
sevendayloss :
oh and will you please make a lesson thats more in depth of the circle of fifths? more examples etc.
thanks

POSTED: 05/26/2006 - 09:10 pm / quote |
Malakian=God :
Thanks for the gr8 article. Really filled in the gaps in my knowledge!
POSTED: 05/27/2006 - 12:58 pm / quote |
inlovewithmusic :
I understood the whole concept of intervals and steps...but what i think ive confused both together.....lemme take an example to describe my doubt ....

Lets say we are considering the C mojor scale ...to find the notes in the scale...one can apply the formula ...WWHWWWH as uve mentioned in the article ....and doin so ...we get the notes CDEFGABC.

out of these four of the notes are perfect and can be only a major chord - the unison, forth,fifth and octave ie C F G and C the other intervals 2nd 3rd 6th and 7th can be a mojor or a minor chord.


Now this is where i got confused with intervals ...i found notes between 1 and 2 , 2 and 3 and so on with names b2 b3 and so on .....i tht the C major scale can have only the notes CDEFGABC ....but in the table i noticed other notes such as Db , Eb etc coming in between ....can u please explain this to me ?? im confused on which to believe now the steps concept or the intervals one ....

Also ....If we take the C major scale ....unison , forth and fifth are perfect and form the major chords C F and G in the key of C ....and the others ie. 2 3 6 and 7 can be major or minor and form the rest of the key ....my second doubt is...what about the intervals such as b2 , b3 #4, b5,#5, b5 etc ?? do they also form chords in the key ?? are they the ones that form chords such as diminished , augmented ,maj7 min7th etc ??

can someone Please help me out ....been goin carzy trying to figure this out

POSTED: 06/01/2006 - 03:15 am / quote |
Brizanishbro :
very long but very well done

POSTED: 06/01/2006 - 10:18 pm / quote |
donbassist :
woah. and i thought id never learn theory. (grabs bass guitar from corner). nice lesson \m/
POSTED: 06/02/2006 - 11:49 pm / quote |
CHUCK "D" :
Outstanding job!!!!! I havn't been playing that long and you really explained a lot of stuff to me and i really understood. Thanks
POSTED: 06/07/2006 - 01:22 am / quote |
mfkr :
From the start you just go into a load of stuff, that I can't understand about intervals. I gave up at that, so could've been explained better in my opinion.
POSTED: 06/19/2006 - 01:42 pm / quote |
PeterMayhew1992 :
that was such a help as i've been trying to understand thoery for months now. I now understand alot that i didnt before i read it, but i dont get the circle of 5ths, can someone explain clearer? Apart from that, was very helpful
thx

POSTED: 06/24/2006 - 07:55 pm / quote |
Mcassidy42 :
A circled note is the root note of that scale, I don't know much about theory, but I know that.
POSTED: 06/24/2006 - 08:49 pm / quote |
rhcp_s :
guys i don't understand the Interval guid thing can someone please explain it to me
POSTED: 06/26/2006 - 03:03 pm / quote |
Discouraged :
Alot of people complaining about the interval section. =/
In all honesty, once you've all understood and memorized the chromatic scale, intervals become very simple. You have to LEARN them. Music theory is all about LEARNING. The basic foundations of music theory involves LEARNING. You understand? LEARNING. Once you've LEARNT and memorized the basics, you can begin to apply it to form an understanding of the more difficult concepts.
My knowledge of music theory is basic, at best. When I first looked at this article a while ago, none of it made sense. But I grabbed a pencil and paper, and started scribbling down important points, and memorizing them, along with scale formulas and the god damn structure of intervals. -.-
LEARN! Darn it.

Thanks for the article dude. Was a big help.

POSTED: 06/27/2006 - 11:09 am / quote |
Dave2210 :
Very cool. I know know quite a bit that I didn't get before. There are still a few things which I don't understand, although you did explain them well. The only thing I have to say is I think you put the circle of 5th the wrong way round. I thought it was mean to be (going clockwize) C, G, D, A, E, B, F#/Gb etc... But I could be wrong, but I managed to use the circle of 5ths using that consept but I didn't manage to do it the way you showed it. Appart from that it was a big help to me, so thats alot!!!
POSTED: 07/04/2006 - 12:50 pm / quote |
amateur123 :
nice one!
POSTED: 07/09/2006 - 02:08 pm / quote |
ibanezrg120plyr :
thiw is a great lesson and it has helped me alot in understanding scales.
POSTED: 07/28/2006 - 11:44 pm / quote |
ibanezrg120plyr :
this is a great lesson...thnx for taking time to post it

POSTED: 07/28/2006 - 11:53 pm / quote |
*kill'emall* :
if he could make a tab for that interval chart in the beginning, maybe i would be able to understand some of this.
POSTED: 07/30/2006 - 08:04 pm / quote |
BlackWingFreak :
i started guitar 5 years ago so most things are self taught and this helps,even though you have to reread this several times to get some of the things,oh and the interval thing....simple math everything adds up to nine, i got confused with this fact too...memorize the notes with the numbers, Perfect notes are notes that don't have to be inverted (no sharps or flats)ex. P4 (F) and P5 (G) the numbers both add up to 9, but if it starts with a Minor note like Db (2b) will be inverted to Major B (7) because 2 + 7 = 9, and if it starts out with a Major then it'll be the opposite way and become a Minor note....just Math here guys...all comes out to 9.
POSTED: 07/31/2006 - 02:18 am / quote |
Zameera :
I'm a begginer but still don't get
POSTED: 07/31/2006 - 09:44 pm / quote |
Nitro89 :
i still dont get intervals, some1 help?
POSTED: 08/03/2006 - 10:38 am / quote |
Jake100884 :
I'm with BlackWingFreak. You have to re-read some parts but all in all it's great. Exactly what I was looking for.
POSTED: 08/13/2006 - 01:58 pm / quote |
Bored_as_Hell :
this was exactly what I was looking for.
POSTED: 08/14/2006 - 02:11 am / quote |
goosed :
AnthonyZ Great wrote:

That is not necessary.You can just listen to your favourite songs and just create a chord to play.Music is about creativity.Be natural and play emotionally!Give it a shot!!

Ive just gotta say as a musician for 9 years now, and having two parents who are both majoring musicians that this guy is wrong. If you want to actually learn your instrument in depth, then you need to learn your notes, scales, and music theory especially. If you do not then you will not understand a god damn thing. anyways... now that I finished my ranting about nubs at the beginning of the article...

POSTED: 08/16/2006 - 04:38 am / quote |
Dunjma :
this didnt help a bit i just got really confussed
POSTED: 08/20/2006 - 01:28 am / quote |
[Creative Name] :
as said before your circle of fifths is reversed, good review for me
POSTED: 08/21/2006 - 03:59 pm / quote |
Guitar-God-Elf :
i got confused at the intervals could someone help?
POSTED: 08/25/2006 - 08:49 am / quote |
Kandizzle :
This guy did a bad job of explaining everything.
POSTED: 08/28/2006 - 01:43 pm / quote |
Foz :
Dude, I got to about the Triad Section and decided this was worth printing off. I don't know why other people had such a hard time with it. I've been playing guitar for 3 years, and I don't know an ounce of theory, but this looks like it'll be REALLY helpful. Thanks, dude, well done.
POSTED: 09/07/2006 - 08:15 pm / quote |
xtopher_aaron :
readin the part about Co5 i felt like smashin my guitar on my screen man..
i need help wit it

POSTED: 09/19/2006 - 08:52 am / quote |
KGHerman :
Fantastic lesson. 5 stars.

POSTED: 09/27/2006 - 04:00 am / quote |
KGHerman :
My mistake. 10 stars of course...

POSTED: 09/27/2006 - 04:00 am / quote |
AlexLee :
This guide is the best. I have learnt so much from this guide. Really good for beginner! 10/10
POSTED: 09/27/2006 - 08:53 am / quote |
umehmood1 :
hey,i didnt understand that where are C C#/Db D D#/Eb E F F#/Gb G G#/Ab A A#/Bb B C
on a fretboard.please help me out!

POSTED: 10/22/2006 - 06:19 am / quote |
Scythe400 :
Thanks. This lesson really helped me with the music theory. Although I find using the steps instead of the the formulas quite easier.
POSTED: 10/25/2006 - 09:00 pm / quote |
goatgodgarota :
I am new to music theory and some parts of this lesson confuse me...
POSTED: 10/26/2006 - 05:53 am / quote |
thechief99 :
This person is far too ambiguous in his explanations, he says you don't need prior knowledge to this lesson, well upon reading this lesson i think you do, the explanations are too brief and complicated, you need to simplify and explain yourself more thouroughly!!
POSTED: 11/11/2006 - 07:54 am / quote |
tom_sawyer :
this is a good article. at fist, i was so confused but inserting the examples written on tab form below on each article makes it understandable. my advice for those who cannot understand a thing here, this not the article for you because some discussions like chromatic scale is learned through years of playing guitar without knowing it is a scale! you better check this article again if you find it out by yourself.
POSTED: 11/23/2006 - 06:20 am / quote |
luisaceo :
good lesson, though,(as "thechief99" has said), i certenly do not think that a person that has no prior knowledge would of understand any thing of this, it is certenly not for begginers, very good any way-4stars
POSTED: 12/08/2006 - 06:09 am / quote |
PDFHore :
Wow, great lesson! thanks!
POSTED: 12/18/2006 - 02:25 pm / quote |
AznElliot518 :
Good stuff
POSTED: 12/28/2006 - 07:03 pm / quote |
MetalGS3SE :
Wow, one of the easiest to understand lessons on theory I've found. I've been playing a while but this still helped me more than I could have imagined.

Had to read it twice to get a hold on some of it but I have it now. 10/10 bro.

POSTED: 12/31/2006 - 10:58 pm / quote |
Drew/Dawg :
This is amazing! Good job
POSTED: 01/04/2007 - 04:48 pm / quote |
Anthony5555 :
This is seriously the most informative thing I've ever read on the internet regarding music theory. I've been trying to learn music theory for months now and this really ties it all together perfectly.
POSTED: 01/05/2007 - 03:11 am / quote |
gilerguitar :
this is all veri confusing n new to me. being a noob myself, even after rereading it over n over again , i could not understand a single thing he is talking bout. this article is certainli not 4 beginners. but 4 those hu understood tis lesson, wat prior knowledge should 1 need in order 2 understand the lesson completeli?? n where tis info could be attained??? thnx.....

POSTED: 01/05/2007 - 12:53 pm / quote |
FireEMT1820 :
Hey, great article. Very Helpful, I'm going to print it and keep it in a cover to read over and over. To all those who are arguing about music theory: 1. Anyone who bashes one form of learning music needs to get a life. Good tunes is good tunes, don't matter if they were written by Blind Lemon, or Satch. Anyone who has a passion for guitar, right on. 2. I personally don't think learning theory makes you a robot, it opens your mind and broadens you to new notes and ways of playing, and it's all about playing. If you don't learn new ways to play, and you stick with one way and one way only the rest of your life, you are missing out. Clapton has played everything from blues to rock to reggae to soul. Mark Morton from lamb of god plays metal with lamb, but when he is not on the road or recording with them, he plays in an blues & country band. That's just cool. Cat can make his guitar scream real fast and real loud, then make is sing real slow and soft. Music is about one thing: Music. Get over your differences, the whole "Megadeth is better than Metallica" and "Rap isn't music it's trash" and all this mess, and embrace the music for the music. Get over it, grow up, and get a life. But keep the music real.
Mac

POSTED: 01/07/2007 - 04:46 pm / quote |
werty22 :
Good lesson. I've never understood a lot of this before. I would like to know what chords fit in wich key, though.
POSTED: 01/19/2007 - 09:08 pm / quote |
AlchoholicA :
I've been playing for 2 years and I still don't understand 5ths 7ths diminished ad all that crap..
POSTED: 01/19/2007 - 10:49 pm / quote |
TonyRandall :
^ same here man 2 years and nothing, ive been trying to teach myself theory forever...

but this lesson helped me a bunch... either that or it messed me the hell up... im not sure.. i think i learnt from it though... :/

POSTED: 01/24/2007 - 12:35 am / quote |
natuta :
it's ok, thanks for the lesson
POSTED: 02/03/2007 - 01:13 am / quote |
Oke :
seems cool but im still confused
POSTED: 02/06/2007 - 05:20 am / quote |
ROCK.ON :
man I've taken BAND for 5 years, crappy guitar lessons for half a year, and played guitar in general for a year..and i got lost after like 5 minutes of reading
POSTED: 02/18/2007 - 01:02 am / quote |
capt.greenbeard :
A great article indeed, looking to becom a teacher one day and this is exactly what I was needed. Just one question about this (to anyone who can answer it)

How are major sixth and diminished seventh the same note when sharp sixth is a half step above major sixth? That doesn't make sense to me. 6 and bb7 are both listed as "a" on the chart. Its probably right because this guy obviously knows his stuff, I just need clarification.

POSTED: 02/18/2007 - 01:16 am / quote |
risaldon :
Hi guys,

First of all: great lesson. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
I have a question about paragraph 6.1 "extending cords".
The author states the following scheme for extending minor cords to the 13th degree:
_m13: 1 b3 5 b7 (9) (11) 13
my question is: shouldn't the 13th note be lowered in comparison to the major scale (ie b13 instead of 13).
Conversion of the major to the minor scale can be done with three "lowerings". These are: the 3rd, 6th and 7th note of the major scale.
for example:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Fmaj: F G A Bb C D E F
Fmin: F G Ab Bb C Db Eb F
= = - = = - - =
As the 13th note is enharmonic with the 6th note, you see that this note gets lowered.

I'm pretty new at this stuff, so i don't know for sure that this is true. Does someone know the answer?

cheers,

Chris

POSTED: 02/23/2007 - 04:17 pm / quote |
KIDRoach :
This, is a lot of crap worth reading, =)
POSTED: 02/27/2007 - 08:26 am / quote |
garypalys :
I was lost right from the begininng...
POSTED: 03/08/2007 - 04:12 pm / quote |
bassmaniac101 :
This is, by far, the best theory lesson i have ever seen or heard. The only problem was you didn't explain the Co5 to well. I dind't really understand, but i allready knew the major scales, so i was fine. 10/10.
POSTED: 03/14/2007 - 08:20 am / quote |
Hywel Ed :
I liked this, but the section on Co5 was confusing, so I'll try and get a friend to explain it.
POSTED: 03/14/2007 - 05:37 pm / quote |
rimjob :
hey thanks for this i actually know what i'm doing now

it shut my dad up too

cheers

POSTED: 03/19/2007 - 08:16 am / quote |
JL_Shredder :
Thanks Man!
That helped a lot!

POSTED: 03/21/2007 - 07:00 pm / quote |
InsomniaRocks :
The Chromatic scale is a series of 12 notes starting from any note (doesn’t matter which one... You could use D# for all I care)


hah, "for all I care"...cause we all know that D# is the least popular musical note out there

POSTED: 03/24/2007 - 05:31 pm / quote |
lester2215 :
Check out my lesson, the theory of music, its wayy easier, maybe not as good , of course not, but still a nice thing for u ppl who didnt understand
POSTED: 04/14/2007 - 06:15 pm / quote |
 
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POSTED: 04/18/2007 - 03:34 pm / quote |
Tasman :
Looks awesome one day i'll read it thoroughly coz I flicked through it and it was all another language :s
POSTED: 04/22/2007 - 02:03 am / quote |
thesimo :
i was lost half way through 2.0 :/
POSTED: 04/27/2007 - 08:15 am / quote |
thesimo :
i stuck at it and im about to start 6.0. very interesting, time to take a break now
POSTED: 04/27/2007 - 10:44 am / quote |
anticlementous :
Scifischizo4 wrote:
And for those few who are all going on about just "listnening and being creative" it helps A LOT if you actually know what you are doing. Granted, sometimes you get lucky, but you can't just randomly play notes and have everything turn out right!


Yeah, but some people have an ear for what the right notes are and can piece things together without knowing theory. I am not that person : (

POSTED: 05/11/2007 - 04:28 pm / quote |
matt_leach12 :
wow. right a textbook.
POSTED: 05/26/2007 - 08:36 pm / quote |
Phil McCracken :
thanks for trying to help but all it really did was make me even more discouraged from wanting to learn. i finally find something that looks really good on music theory, but i still don't get it. definately not for beginners.

but if someone knows any really good books on music theory PLEASE TELL ME! thanks.

POSTED: 07/05/2007 - 02:21 am / quote |
foretwoone :
I think this article started with good intentions, but it was hard to follow. I got lost at the CO5 stuff. I might try and read up on this more, understanding music theory is an amazing value.
POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 03:02 am / quote |
alexcp94 :
So if we know D has two sharps, then we look at the line here. F# and C# are the sharps in the key of D.
how cdan i know what are the sharps of d!!!! ahh can some one tell me please

POSTED: 07/11/2007 - 01:42 pm / quote |
Ace-o-spades :
My insides are already burning from studying the first few sections. ill continue tomoorow

anyway, this is amazing. This takes u beyond tablature so u can actually learn how to "read" music instead of looking at lines which indicate the string and the number.

POSTED: 07/12/2007 - 10:00 pm / quote |
flaccid james :
lost at 2.1
POSTED: 07/19/2007 - 10:28 pm / quote |
metalmeep :
oh god, uh, i think i get it?
MeatPuppets22 :
Who gives a ****? This shit sucks the fun out of music and makes it robotic. I would rather suckass at guitar than have a huge ****ing head full of knowledge so I can sit around with all this knowledge and talk to other *****s about it. Fuck theory and **** music. Fuck Joe Satriani, you think Skip James went to music school? If you love music, trully love music, you would play enough to get your own UNIQUE understanding of music, not a text-book understanding.
This person is a stupid moron, I thought i'd add

POSTED: 07/22/2007 - 06:21 am / quote |
dontstoprockin :
idk if it's just me but i couldn't really understand this.
i'm totally new at this...
:P

POSTED: 07/23/2007 - 08:25 pm / quote |
flaccid james :
www.theorylessons.com

this seems to help a lot

POSTED: 07/24/2007 - 01:51 am / quote |
Schane :
i say its good lesson, and for the people who do somewhat get it, good! i personally think they should go on and read notes not tabs. reading notes is also good because if you try another instrument, like piano you have some of the notes down already, in a way. but yeah i read notes and i understand music theory, so this lesson aint that bad. though i believe should learn the right way, not the "tab" way, NOT to be mean to anyone
POSTED: 07/27/2007 - 11:30 am / quote |
simonzwaan :
metalmeep wrote:

oh god, uh, i think i get it?MeatPuppets22 :
Who gives a ****? This shit sucks the fun out of music and makes it robotic. I would rather suckass at guitar than have a huge ****ing head full of knowledge so I can sit around with all this knowledge and talk to other *****s about it. Fuck theory and **** music. Fuck Joe Satriani, you think Skip James went to music school? If you love music, trully love music, you would play enough to get your own UNIQUE understanding of music, not a text-book understanding.
This person is a stupid moron, I thought i'd add

I second that
If you love music you want to understand it better

POSTED: 07/27/2007 - 01:23 pm / quote |
sword shredder :
Whew, I've been looking and getting confused at this for over a year, but I've finally managed to get it %100
POSTED: 07/30/2007 - 12:17 pm / quote |
gibson sg1 :
nice work, covers alot of important things.
POSTED: 08/01/2007 - 07:52 pm / quote |
Infatuation :
wow
POSTED: 08/07/2007 - 01:06 am / quote |
ermangelo :
Wow, thanks dude, I was struggling my head off to learn this stuff, thanks for making my job easier.
Very very nice, keep up the good work.

POSTED: 08/08/2007 - 01:04 pm / quote |
KingJustinian25 :
I knew what this stuff is from orchestra but not the purpose of it, good job =)
POSTED: 08/09/2007 - 09:16 pm / quote |
ChrisHecox :
this was a great lesson... and then i read it... and i dont get a word of it
POSTED: 08/13/2007 - 10:33 pm / quote |
josh_oj :
ahhh the circle of 5ths screwed me up
POSTED: 08/17/2007 - 06:44 am / quote |
wyldeshredder :
this is incredible man...incredible...i wish i had found this when i started learning theory,but im gonna go through it and clear it all up..thx man,great article
POSTED: 08/19/2007 - 09:43 pm / quote |
wyldeshredder :
learner656 wrote:

This lesson seems to jump from section 10.3 to 11.4 Is there something wrong with my browser? Or are those vital parts missing? Great lesson, don't want to miss out on those sections.
i see those sections...kinda diguised, but they're in the article

POSTED: 08/19/2007 - 10:17 pm / quote |
wyldeshredder :
MeatPuppets22 wrote:

Who gives a ****? This shit sucks the fun out of music and makes it robotic. I would rather suckass at guitar than have a huge ****ing head full of knowledge so I can sit around with all this knowledge and talk to other *****s about it. Fuck theory and **** music. Fuck Joe Satriani, you think Skip James went to music school? If you love music, trully love music, you would play enough to get your own UNIQUE understanding of music, not a text-book understanding.
calm down there buddy...some of us like to know what we;re doing

POSTED: 08/19/2007 - 10:20 pm / quote |
Darken Rahl :
Wtf is wrong with me. I have been trying to learn this shit for so long. I don't understand like any of this. Every time I try it, I am like ok. Is all this the same if I am tuned to C. What D note are they talking about, there are like 15 of them. Which string are you talking about. What makes a note perfect or augmented. I sit here and get disgusted because this is my dream, this is what I am going to do, and every time I try to ****ing read something about theory, I just want to break down and cry.
POSTED: 08/21/2007 - 02:41 am / quote |
wyldeshredder :
Darken Rahl wrote:

Wtf is wrong with me. I have been trying to learn this shit for so long. I don't understand like any of this. Every time I try it, I am like ok. Is all this the same if I am tuned to C. What D note are they talking about, there are like 15 of them. Which string are you talking about. What makes a note perfect or augmented. I sit here and get disgusted because this is my dream, this is what I am going to do, and every time I try to ****ing read something about theory, I just want to break down and cry.
maybe u should print the parts u would like to learn,and take it to a teacher...it will take a couple weeks,but slowly work through it with a teacher,it will help.dont get discouraged too,it happens to all of us,nobody picked up a guitar and just knew it...keep goin at it dude,a teacher might help...even goin through it with a friend.

POSTED: 08/21/2007 - 08:36 pm / quote |
ooder the cow :
tbh, this is exactly what i need at this point in my playing. Much Kudos is spraying your way from me mr. Slash_pwns.
POSTED: 08/23/2007 - 08:08 pm / quote |
mybsaccownt :
not to take anything away from the author of this one, but those who are having trouble here may benefit from trying this one:

http://www.zentao.com/guitar/theory/

i found it a lot easier to follow

POSTED: 08/28/2007 - 01:14 am / quote |
Guitar_Poet :
your circle of fifths is backwards.
POSTED: 09/01/2007 - 03:00 pm / quote |
I suk at guitar :
music theory is really confusing to me. its not easy to learn by yourself. i havnt got through the whole lesson yet but it really has helped me a lot so far. its the only lesson on theory so far that ive actually been able to understand so thanks a lot.
POSTED: 09/08/2007 - 03:28 am / quote |
Twig Boy :
Wow. I've been playing guitar for about a year now. I feel really bad when I read this. I don't get any of it. i started reading the intervals stuff and I am completely lost.
POSTED: 09/09/2007 - 06:10 pm / quote |
Twig Boy :
Darken Rahl wrote:

Wtf is wrong with me. I have been trying to learn this shit for so long. I don't understand like any of this. Every time I try it, I am like ok. Is all this the same if I am tuned to C. What D note are they talking about, there are like 15 of them. Which string are you talking about. What makes a note perfect or augmented. I sit here and get disgusted because this is my dream, this is what I am going to do, and every time I try to ****ing read something about theory, I just want to break down and cry.


Dude. I feel the exact same. I loooove my guitar more than I love my mommy. And that's alot. But this is like... OMFG WTF???

POSTED: 09/09/2007 - 06:12 pm / quote |
drod700 :
I've been playiing guitar for nine years and have three college semesters of music theory. It takes three months of class and a whole text book to cover all of this material in depth. If you are a beginner don't get discouraged; take this information to a teacher and work through it. One more thing, understanding theory will help you excell. GREAT job man!!!
POSTED: 10/12/2007 - 10:26 am / quote |
Wolfer0624 :
I've been playing guitar for about 2 years dude, and apart from learning some scales which will help me out, this was the most confusing article I've came across. This is more of a basic article than for a beginner to take in all at once. Sorry man
POSTED: 10/27/2007 - 03:40 pm / quote |
palthestud :
The lesson is great but couldnt get the circle of fifths precisely...
POSTED: 10/31/2007 - 05:14 am / quote |
grille :
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE 8 and a half step to the octave .. thats wrong man
POSTED: 10/31/2007 - 06:43 pm / quote |
Ringtone :
This article didn't help at all. It just got me fusterated I was so confused
POSTED: 11/04/2007 - 08:05 pm / quote |
Punkismygod :
me too -^ maybe bit too complicated, but there's no help for that
POSTED: 11/09/2007 - 12:55 pm / quote |
daryle_goh :
in section 6.2 it's stated that if the chord is a b5 the formula changes to 1 3 b5. what if it's a #5? is it 1 3 5 #5 or 1 3 #5?
POSTED: 11/23/2007 - 05:08 am / quote |
nine01n :
i have printed this out and will be studying it for the next few weeks. thank you very much!
POSTED: 12/02/2007 - 03:01 pm / quote |
rockinroll :
i haven't read it yet but this is exactly what i've been looking for, thank's so much for makin this dude!
POSTED: 12/12/2007 - 03:33 pm / quote |
2mins2midnite :
THIS IS THE BEST MUSIC THEORY LESSON ON HERE
POSTED: 12/15/2007 - 10:32 pm / quote |
mkosmy01 :
i started playing guitar not to long ago but when i hear people talking about Am or Adim7 or what have you i had no idea what they were talking about but after reading just a few paragraphs i think i finally understand my guitar and how to play it. thanks for posting this, this was exactly what i needed.
POSTED: 12/16/2007 - 05:37 pm / quote |
damagecontrol77 :
This has to be the most detail music theory/guitar lesson EVER!!!.... for a tab site...It covers like 1-2 years of theory classes at any college/university!

But all of you looking to get into this and don't understand, need to take a music theory class at a junior college. Tution is cheap (although books are expensive) and you could take a 101 course for starters. you probably won't get any instruction for applying this on the guitar, thou.

I have spent minutes, hours, days, weeks, even months learning most of this stuff and I still somewhat suck at it. You're not going understand all of it or any at all just by reading it.

In a class , any of these sections could take one or more class meeting to cover. And even when your're done with it, you still use or review it. So don't beat yourself up if you're reaction is : "wtf is this!". It takes practice just like your guitar.



POSTED: 12/17/2007 - 07:45 pm / quote |
feyk :
would be damn boring for a starter. hahaha
POSTED: 12/19/2007 - 06:43 am / quote |
NOtrab :
i still dont understand anything
POSTED: 12/19/2007 - 07:45 pm / quote |
NOtrab :
wait nvm aha
POSTED: 12/19/2007 - 07:50 pm / quote |
coreybercher :
good shit...
POSTED: 12/19/2007 - 08:23 pm / quote |
Radagascar :
yeah, the first parts are just a big "wtf, how does anyone understand this".
POSTED: 12/27/2007 - 01:42 am / quote |
Radagascar :
MeatPuppets22 wrote:

Who gives a ****? This shit sucks the fun out of music and makes it robotic. I would rather suckass at guitar than have a huge ****ing head full of knowledge so I can sit around with all this knowledge and talk to other *****s about it. Fuck theory and **** music. Fuck Joe Satriani, you think Skip James went to music school? If you love music, trully love music, you would play enough to get your own UNIQUE understanding of music, not a text-book understanding.


that is JUST what i needed at 1 in the morning when i'm dead tired and pissed because it's like reading arabic. that's hilarious!

POSTED: 12/27/2007 - 01:49 am / quote |
fret_catalyst :
A. Nicely done. Helped a lot.
B. **** all you people who rip on those whose lessons you dont like because they got it posted, so it's apparently worth something.

POSTED: 12/31/2007 - 06:47 pm / quote |
kyle8407 :
AAAAAGGHH it makes me want to remove my brains. somebody simplify. musics supposed to be fun
POSTED: 01/04/2008 - 04:58 pm / quote |
dark_bard :
man... hell of an article, i need to learn music theory cuase im the only person capable of writing music in my band... anyone who says it makes music robotic... i dont think you understand music theory... music theory helps you understand what your playing... it doesnt force you to play a certain way, its like math... no matter how you write it, or how you get around to doing it, 2+2 still equals 4, and it helps to know that.
POSTED: 01/05/2008 - 04:42 am / quote |
Viktor Smidy :
Thank you..I finally understand the Co5 and other things...my friend helped me though because she knows lot of things about these things ..but gr8 job...
POSTED: 01/05/2008 - 05:27 pm / quote |
enuenu :
Very comprehensive. Thanks for the effort. However I have to admit it completely lost me early on. I am not a dummy, I have university level education in science. I have been playing by ear for 25 years but am an absolute theory noob. It is the use terminology that confuses me. Here is my first hurdle on page 1, you say "An interval is the space between one note and another." What does that mean, "space"? Is that a fret, a certain number of Hertz, something else? Then the interval guide is shown straight away "What the...." Confused from word go. Sorry, just being honest.
POSTED: 01/09/2008 - 12:07 am / quote |
synysterA7Xrule :
woah, you must have spent ages, but i'm completely lost :S
POSTED: 01/13/2008 - 07:30 am / quote |
rossjohnson87 :
This is hard for me to follow and I've been playing for a while. Like if you had the time it'd probably be real helpful to go through and provide examples on the actual guitar so it'd make a little sense. I've been trying to make a serious effort at learning this stuff and its impossible to find a guide that makes sense, I know this stuff is long already but some definitions of some of the jargon just to give us an idea of would be great. Sort of have that feeling like when a doctor's trying to explain something to you with all these technical terms and you just want to scream at him, "English please."

Still, I can tell you put a lot of effort into this and I do appreciate that. Definitely shouldn't be in the beginners section though haha.

POSTED: 01/22/2008 - 05:13 pm / quote |
4thgeer :
benwahballs wrote:

the interval reference chart is where im stuck. what if u made the first note a B?!!! try it it doesnt work because with the b2 u cant flatten C. help me


Agreed. And also why don't you use the sharp or the flat of the root note? If anyone can answer it would be really helpful.

POSTED: 01/22/2008 - 06:41 pm / quote |
Yeti60 :
i may be wrong, but isn't your circle of fifths backwards?
POSTED: 01/25/2008 - 06:35 pm / quote |
blackreign :
this is all great info. to the people that complain that it's hard to understand, try finding books in the Guitar Grimoire series. Now that is cryptic. I have three of those books (Scales, Chords, Progressions) and the system he comes up with is good, but this is way easier to follow. This is a good reference with words to explain what's going on.
POSTED: 01/26/2008 - 10:17 am / quote |
nghienviec :
Just like b9 is an octave higher than b2


Correct me if I am wrong but, shouldn't this have been "Just like b3 is an octave higher than b2"?

POSTED: 02/08/2008 - 12:25 am / quote |
nghienviec :
4thgeer wrote:

benwahballs wrote:

the interval reference chart is where im stuck. what if u made the first note a B?!!! try it it doesnt work because with the b2 u cant flatten C. help me


Agreed. And also why don't you use the sharp or the flat of the root note? If anyone can answer it would be really helpful.


That's because the root note here is used as a 'point of reference', for other notes to find our there relative intervals you simply shift the whole 'chart' across the neck, trying it on the guitar makes it easier to grasp. e.g. the chart says C to D is a major second, supposed you wanna find the 2nd second from B then it's gonna be B + 2 = C# or B - 2 = A

POSTED: 02/08/2008 - 12:37 am / quote |
xVSxNightmare :

Correct me if I am wrong but, shouldn't this have been "Just like b3 is an octave higher than b2"?


I don't think so. b3 is a STEP (2 semitones.) higher than b2, but the OCTAVE (12 semitones.) is at b9.

POSTED: 02/16/2008 - 10:43 pm / quote |
Funeral Moon :
I've become lost at the Circle of Fifths, with the finding of flats and sharps in key signatures.
POSTED: 02/17/2008 - 01:36 am / quote |
rocker_26 :
this is the greatest lesson on UG but i did have to read through it a few times and learn where the notes are on the neck before it made any sense
POSTED: 02/18/2008 - 11:59 am / quote |
howey :
Great Lesson!
This has really given me somewhere to start on my theory.

POSTED: 03/02/2008 - 05:24 am / quote |
paulybear :
I just started learning guitar like a few weeks ago. Would it be a good idea to learn theory early on, or will it just confuse the hell outta me? haha :P
POSTED: 03/04/2008 - 01:11 pm / quote |
glen_livet :
Circle of fifths is backward from the way i learnt it, but it is still right.
Typos and bad sentences make sections difficult to read and comprehend.
Still, it brings it all together. Read it and read it again, and again, until you get it. GOOD STUFF!

I found another site that helped clarify some of the stuff that didn't immediately click.
http://www.musicarrangers.com/

POSTED: 03/13/2008 - 11:22 am / quote |
ncm414 :
Dude, I am totally lost.
POSTED: 03/13/2008 - 06:34 pm / quote |
getadicted :
I dont get it all right now, but i got to start somewhere, saying ur totally lost is a dumb comment to say, just learn what u can, its a great lesson
POSTED: 03/17/2008 - 11:18 am / quote |
metalist86435 :
there is no way for me to get into this lesson. i know what a flat and sharp is, but the rest throws me off. the explanations are too brief for me
POSTED: 03/23/2008 - 01:46 am / quote |
F8iscruel :
i would wirte all the thnak u's u deserved but im afraid i dont have threemonths to waste, lol. thank because of this i now no how to do scales and chords, im gonna keep reviewing this b/c i need to get it ingraved in my skull however i understood it well enough the first time thru to get my wits about me. thank u for posting this it is very helpful in improving my music.
POSTED: 03/23/2008 - 05:42 pm / quote |
F8iscruel :
ujm is there only one box for each mode or do i combine them
POSTED: 03/23/2008 - 06:22 pm / quote |
Time Seller :
AnthonyZ Great wrote:

That is not necessary.You can just listen to your favourite songs and just create a chord to play.Music is about creativity.Be natural and play emotionally!Give it a shot!!

I lol'ed.

POSTED: 03/29/2008 - 11:39 am / quote |
Punk_Savage :
This is awsome. Thanx.
POSTED: 04/05/2008 - 10:49 pm / quote |
Realturka :
I don't get it at all.
POSTED: 04/10/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
Armagedn :
That's definitely being bookmarked.
POSTED: 04/19/2008 - 09:28 pm / quote |
burningmice :
Im completly lost at 2.1 dont understand this at all .
POSTED: 04/21/2008 - 06:23 pm / quote |
Jawshuwa :
Very good read, very good lesson.
POSTED: 04/24/2008 - 02:23 pm / quote |
MetalheaD_ :
royaly confused! could you explain alittle more simply
POSTED: 05/09/2008 - 10:16 pm / quote |
...A7X... :
Hey, awesome stuff here. It really helped me alot. One question...i got lost when you visualized the "triads"... could you plz explan those out for me. i'm not sure how to read em
POSTED: 05/11/2008 - 10:08 pm / quote |
nuub13 :
Just got my first guitar today. Didn't understand a word of this article. What is it doing in the beginners section? :|
POSTED: 05/18/2008 - 02:04 pm / quote |
Kurikinton Fox :
This lesson isn't really fitted for beginners.
POSTED: 05/23/2008 - 09:51 am / quote |
AngryGoldfish :
Kurikinton Fox wrote:

This lesson isn't really fitted for beginners.


i think this is more dedicated to theory for beginners in a way that its there if you want the whole lot in one go. I woulnd't suggest it for someone who has never picked up a guitar before. Anyone can learn this stuff really, it just takes time. I've been playing guitar for three years and I know quite a bit of theory, but not this much! This still baffles me, but I know I can do it.

POSTED: 05/25/2008 - 09:17 pm / quote |
LaGrange :
Damn great lesson man, Helpin out alot of people >.
POSTED: 05/30/2008 - 12:50 pm / quote |
nappyfretz83 :
too much knowledge to learn before anything practical..i say just learn how to tune, and if you're into it enough, it all comes naturally
POSTED: 06/01/2008 - 02:51 am / quote |
Normozoidz :
I think this lesson is great. The only downside to this lesson is that the steps or the lessons is arranged in a way that it makes a lot of begginers loose their track (Just an oppinion). so can anyone just PM me your ideas on what to learn first?
POSTED: 06/16/2008 - 12:39 am / quote |
shwell :
Great lesson, had to read other sites for the stuff I didn't get at first, nothing unusual about that.
POSTED: 07/05/2008 - 10:31 am / quote |
 
 m 
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lesson has been edited and updated to include a correct version of the circle of fifths, in image form. and some other minor mistakes and typos have been corrected. enjoy.
POSTED: 07/16/2008 - 10:03 am / quote |
scguitarking927 :
god i hardly understood any of that, im gonna reread it again, to see if i get anything else from it.

I'm just not picking up on theory at all... =( This is really frustrating.

I'm sure its great stuff, im just not understanding.

POSTED: 07/17/2008 - 12:46 am / quote |
Patchy13 :
I like this theory thing, but to the simple minded such as me, I don't get jack squat out of it. ._.; I'm gonna try re-reading it later on, but it's quite compliacted....
POSTED: 07/17/2008 - 03:27 pm / quote |
ChemicalFire :
There is just too much here, I lost track after reaching the co5 and gave up. The info is written in a way, where you just get confused...
POSTED: 07/18/2008 - 05:35 pm / quote |
ChemicalFire :
Just want to add, there are too many words in there which are left undefined like inverted, what the hell does that mean in this context, also the thing in the Co5 defiantly made no sense to me, everything is made of sharps, what the hell is going on?
POSTED: 07/18/2008 - 05:51 pm / quote |
Iron_Dude :
Okay, for all of you new to theory, this guide is broken down into sections for a reason. You are supposed to read the first section, and if you don't understand it, reread it. Keep rereading it until it sinks into your head and you understand it all fully. DON'T move on to the next section until you finish reading the previous section. These guides up set up this way for a reason, so you can use it too it's fullest potential.
POSTED: 07/19/2008 - 11:36 pm / quote |
L.P :
your eplanation on diatonics isnt getting through to me... help?
POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 06:31 pm / quote |
Megasmrt :
Iron_Dude wrote:

Okay, for all of you new to theory, this guide is broken down into sections for a reason. You are supposed to read the first section, and if you don't understand it, reread it. Keep rereading it until it sinks into your head and you understand it all fully. DON'T move on to the next section until you finish reading the previous section. These guides up set up this way for a reason, so you can use it too it's fullest potential.

yeah listen to the man

POSTED: 07/25/2008 - 09:28 am / quote |
mightmuffin :
Simply amazing! helped me understand so much more than other lessons have
POSTED: 07/26/2008 - 05:53 pm / quote |
ninja2142 :
Omg this is awesome the diatonic explanation really helped
POSTED: 07/30/2008 - 05:02 am / quote |
indrarai :
aah it's too long anyway it's good
POSTED: 08/02/2008 - 12:05 pm / quote |
Dustybrown :
I didn't understand a darn thing mentioned in that whole article!!!
POSTED: 08/09/2008 - 04:57 am / quote |
aznmissemo :
wow... real long but i learned sooo much it was totally worth reading...
POSTED: 08/11/2008 - 11:08 pm / quote |
drewfromutah :
This cleared up a lot. Thanks.
POSTED: 08/12/2008 - 10:19 am / quote |
ChucklesMginty :
Ahhh so complicated I can't understand any of this to save my life. Forget music, I can play Raining Blood on expert! Joke, great article but my stupid brain can't take any of it in.
POSTED: 08/16/2008 - 05:26 pm / quote |
wobbley :
it's hard to find everything about music theory in one place but this is perfect..thanks
POSTED: 08/20/2008 - 10:29 pm / quote |
rockerskater12 :
what should i learn first because i dont understand any of this crap
i can play guitar though

POSTED: 08/23/2008 - 04:25 pm / quote |
Thnikkamann :
Amazing lesson
POSTED: 08/26/2008 - 08:19 pm / quote |
Fender_Mex-DB#1 :
At first glance this is seems hard to understand, but just keep reading. This lesson makes sense. Take your time on it like you do when you physically practice. Don't think you can shortcut through this one. It's music theory. It isn't easy but is very useful. Start from the beginning and work your way to the end. No reason to rush...learn it. It helped me immensely. I have natural talent and can read tabs and know this and that about theory but never put it all together until going through this lesson. Slash_Pwns you are the shitt!
POSTED: 08/27/2008 - 08:46 pm / quote |
fiztech :
not bad, perhaps needs a little fleshing out around the way you see things and some of the terminology used is a little presumptuious (spelling lol). but overall one of the better ones that will help people who click with this way of seeing it.
POSTED: 09/02/2008 - 08:21 am / quote |
cilaes :
Wow very extensive but I was completely lost from the beginning. "What intervals and steps are" from what I'm getting out of it it's just showing WHAT they are, not explaining. I am possibly missing something but I'm definitely printing this and going to try to make sense out of it. Thanks!
POSTED: 09/14/2008 - 05:22 pm / quote |
cfh0636 :
Great lesson taught it a lot better than my theory professor in college.
POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 05:34 pm / quote |
sarmadical :
Circle of Fifths is messed, he screwed up big time, other than that, CRAZY lesson dude, good way to review my theory again (i forgot it)

the CoF the C# adn Cb being most sharps and flats is wrong, as Cd doesnt exist, and he got the CoF backwards so check out CoF somewhere else people if your confused

POSTED: 09/19/2008 - 08:51 pm / quote |
sarmadical :
*you're
POSTED: 09/19/2008 - 08:52 pm / quote |
sarmadical :
Also, for all the people complaining, i did'nt get any of it, i suggest you go to biggener music site, learn the simple stuff in depth, THEN come back here and read it again and it should make more sense.

This lesson was more of a theory review as he doesnt go in depth to EVERY concept, so for you music begginers, learn you basics thoroughly first!

POSTED: 09/19/2008 - 08:54 pm / quote |
AgentWiggles :
Jesus H. Christ - all these people whining about not understanding it - did you actually take the time to read it in detail and try it out with your guitar? This isn't easy stuff, and you can't learn it by skimming.

And all of you saying theory makes you robotic and that you just "play your guitar": guess what?
You're using theory. Anytime you come up with something that sounds good, whether you like it or not, there's music theory behind it.

This stuff unlocks a whole new world of guitar playing, and if you refuse to learn it, you're not only being stubborn and stupid, but refusing to expand your skill on your instrument.

GREAT lesson.

POSTED: 09/22/2008 - 08:19 pm / quote |
myearshurt :
awesome stuff, easy to understand. the guitar book i have only touches lightly on these topics, so thanks xD
POSTED: 10/10/2008 - 06:50 am / quote |
myearshurt :
what does stacked mean?
POSTED: 10/29/2008 - 02:57 am / quote |
mattiwillohouse :
circe of fifths bit is well complicated. for instance, how can you tell that Eb has three flats just by looking at that picture??

goddam theory!!

POSTED: 11/06/2008 - 04:49 am / quote |
Froboarder :
mattiwillohouse wrote:

circe of fifths bit is well complicated. for instance, how can you tell that Eb has three flats just by looking at that picture??

goddam theory!!

If you go counterclockwise from C, you add a flat to each note you land on. Since Eb is 3 notes away from C, it has 3 flats. Another way to look at it is just by taking the major scale:
Eb F G Ab Bb C D
3 flats. Because of the rule of diatonics, it can't be like this:
Eb F G G# A# C D

POSTED: 11/10/2008 - 04:25 pm / quote |
lukeuh36azabc :
best lesson on the entire site

an essential for EVERYONE!!!!!

POSTED: 11/15/2008 - 10:30 am / quote |
Spudderz :
Am I tho only person to find the part about intervals very vague?
POSTED: 12/10/2008 - 05:55 pm / quote |
tenki :
this is great stuff! you can actually forgive some of his misgivings (if ever he had one), and still pull off some licks up from your own sleeve. you just have to understand what the lesson tells you to do, and see the results for yourself.

KEEP ON ROCKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD!!!Ü

POSTED: 12/26/2008 - 09:20 pm / quote |
gsomej :
Spudderz wrote:

Am I tho only person to find the part about intervals very vague?


I know huh? It confuses me so much. grrr

POSTED: 01/01/2009 - 07:25 pm / quote |
mikes182 :
This helped a lot. I'm still not sure about the whole diatonic section, but other then that this was a big help. I've been playing guitar for a while, but I don't really know anything about theory. This just started me on the right track. Thanks again.
POSTED: 01/05/2009 - 12:21 am / quote |
add_g :
im confused
POSTED: 01/12/2009 - 01:00 pm / quote |
skwisgaar5051 :
really good helped me with some stuff
kinda surprised it be written by a guy who thinks slash is good at guitar

POSTED: 01/19/2009 - 02:41 pm / quote |
blacksurgeband :
gsomej wrote:

Spudderz wrote:

Am I tho only person to find the part about intervals very vague?

I know huh? It confuses me so much. grrr

Yeah I know what you mean, everything makes sense to me except intervals and chords :P

POSTED: 02/17/2009 - 09:12 pm / quote |
decayingdave :
AgentWiggles wrote:
...And all of you saying theory makes you robotic and that you just "play your guitar": guess what?
You're using theory. Anytime you come up with something that sounds good, whether you like it or not, there's music theory behind it.

This stuff unlocks a whole new world of guitar playing, and if you refuse to learn it, you're not only being stubborn and stupid, but refusing to expand your skill on your instrument.

GREAT lesson.

Too Right Mate! Fair doos, if you don't understand this article then there's no need to throw your new toy out of the pram - To me, most of the above is complete gibberish, But I still appreciate that it's merely a complicated tool that I'm yet to understand.

Brilliant article, it's complicated (as all good theory articles are!) but unlike most, this covers EVERYTHING. Awesome.

POSTED: 02/21/2009 - 05:32 pm / quote |
eGraham :
I've been playing for about 9 months now, and I'm just beginning to look into theory. I'm hoping I can expand my knowledge so that I can one day write good songs, that are dynamic. Not just C, D, Am, etc.

Anyway, this is actually my first night of studying it, and I think I understand the creating of chords, but I think I've missed everything else lol!

Anyway thanks for a good lesson, I'll be sure and check back once I'm able to focus a little better.

POSTED: 02/24/2009 - 08:26 pm / quote |
PoopChute :
correct me if im wrong here but the notes and their intervals from any mode is just compared to the major scale. EG.
Major- C D E F G A B C =
W W W H W W W H =
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1

Dorian- C D Eb F G A Bb C =
W H W W W H W =
1 2 3b 4 5 6 7b
Any one see what i mean? because 3rd note is E in the major, its Eb or 3b in dorian. So if a guy goes and makes his own scale and wants to write out the intervals he does it in comparison of the major?

POSTED: 02/24/2009 - 08:39 pm / quote |
pwnagegnome :
i have no idea whats going on, im just going to take a music theory class senior year
POSTED: 03/04/2009 - 10:11 pm / quote |
dxpaintball8000 :
hmmmm didn't really get any of it
POSTED: 03/05/2009 - 07:24 am / quote |
church773 :
Thanks alot, the stuff on making chords helped me alot.
Also you explained the Co5 in a way I understood.

Awesome lesson, 10/10.

POSTED: 03/23/2009 - 04:00 pm / quote |
FryingNemo :
Hey guys, I really want to commit to learning my theory, but it seem like quite a bit to wrap my head around. So, to give me some incentive to do this, how will theory help me? In what ways will it help me create better music?
POSTED: 03/26/2009 - 08:43 pm / quote |
Fzau :
Thanks for the great lesson!
I was completely new to music theory (despite playing guitar for 1,5+ years now) and it really helped explaining how and why everything works. I dedicated two evenings to this lesson and now I understand all of it! Can't wait to apply this to my playing!
Kudos to you good sir!

POSTED: 04/11/2009 - 05:49 pm / quote |
Doc5678 :
One important thing to realize about music theory, is that none of it is new; very little has been added or changed in hundreds of years.

The major scale is as important as the name sounds - everything in music theory is described in reference to it. C Major is the simplest of all keys, having no sharps or flats. All the natural notes (A B C D E F G) are two "half-steps" apart, except E & F and B & C, being just one "half-step" apart.

The notes of C Major scale are: C D E F G A B (C)

POSTED: 04/24/2009 - 07:46 am / quote |
Doc5678 :
Ok the comment I wrote was obviously far too long, I transcribed it to a thread in musician talk forum, if anyone is interested see here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111315 8
POSTED: 04/24/2009 - 08:49 am / quote |
urbanesatan :
cool dude u practically gave a lot of stuff man thx
POSTED: 04/28/2009 - 02:01 pm / quote |
PoopChute :
That mini solo b4 11.5 is perfect for my question. A teacher once told that certain key signatures have X amount of sharps or flats and they follow in order Eg: G major has 1# and its an F# then following the Co5 D has 2 F# and C# etc. But if you write down the notes and play that mini solo the notes are A B C D E F G#, I think thats diatonically correct and when i play it it seems to resolve on the A note so i think its in the key of A with a flatenned 3rd and 6th ( if I'm wrong plz let me know and explain so i may understand). Ok for my question when your trying to make your own scale how do figure out what key its in?
POSTED: 05/04/2009 - 11:50 pm / quote |
akolyte123 :
i see a lot of comments here saying that they dont understand this stuff and that it makes no sense. YOU CANT READ ONE ARTICLE ON MUSIC THEORY AND EXPECT TO UNDERSTAND IT ALL.(sry bout the caps just trying to make a point lol). its just like playing guitar you have to practice at this a lot to really understand. this is honestly not advanced music theory this is still basic it gets so much harder its ridiculous ive been studying for a while now and still have so musch to learn. and those people who say music theory isnt worth are the people who dont understand and dont try hard enough to understand and if you really want to make a career of this you wont get far in music if you dont understand your theory.
POSTED: 05/17/2009 - 11:59 pm / quote |
moonatblack :
OMFGZ LAWL
POSTED: 05/28/2009 - 06:23 pm / quote |
angus_young_32 :
mybsaccownt wrote:

not to take anything away from the author of this one, but those who are having trouble here may benefit from trying this one:

http://www.zentao.com/guitar/theory/

i found it a lot easier to follow


Thank you!!!

POSTED: 07/15/2009 - 05:56 pm / quote |
daniel731 :
Great lesson, thanks!
POSTED: 07/28/2009 - 03:05 pm / quote |
RegentBlack :
Wow, lots of stuff to go through
Especially the Chord Construction helped me alot!
I got it pretty fast´n´easy!
THX for your efforts

POSTED: 07/30/2009 - 04:30 am / quote |
DieGarbageMan :
No offense but you made this far more complicated than it needed to be, i went on another lesson to try and see what it was then come back here and see if i could understand it, and i still couldn't

but its a good guide and keep up the work.

POSTED: 08/10/2009 - 01:32 pm / quote |
mynamesbetter :
I wish you can save lessons

POSTED: 08/23/2009 - 09:48 pm / quote |
fivefiveFIVE :
I feel bad for all you lesser beings who weren't born with a guitar in hand and an extensive knowledge of music theory. Pathetic!
POSTED: 09/23/2009 - 05:38 pm / quote |
fivefiveFIVE :
fivefiveFIVE wrote:

I feel bad for all you lesser beings who weren't born with a guitar in hand and an extensive knowledge of music theory. Pathetic!


Honestly, who needs to learn. Absorbing knowledge is where it's at man.

POSTED: 09/23/2009 - 10:44 pm / quote |
fivefiveFIVE :
This lesson actually really helped me out, It has helped me improve not only with guitar but I can now jam on the piano!
POSTED: 09/29/2009 - 11:02 pm / quote |
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