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Modulation

author: brokenanthem date: 08/13/2008 category: guitar techniques
rating: 7.5 / votes: 10 
POSTED: 08/13/2008 - 07:59 am
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Dr. Clock :
First.
Good lesson.

POSTED: 08/13/2008 - 04:24 pm / quote |
the-leperchaun :
yo this is coompletly off topic but how is that c maj i thoght this was
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POSTED: 08/13/2008 - 06:59 pm / quote |
anupkr :
cool lesson.
POSTED: 08/13/2008 - 10:44 pm / quote |
Gord@k :
[quote=the-leperchaun ]yo this is coompletly off topic but how is that c maj i thoght this was
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Yes that is C-major

POSTED: 08/14/2008 - 12:00 pm / quote |
Nick B :
the-leperchaun wrote:

yo this is coompletly off topic but how is that c maj i thoght this was
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thats CMaj the chord. the lesson was referring to the key of C major (no accidentals, starts on C). you will probably have to learn a good chunk of theory before you can understand the lesson.

POSTED: 08/15/2008 - 06:50 am / quote |
titopuente :
Some good information regarding modulation; I'm interested to see how this will progress. Just going from the article, though, it doesn't seem like you have a correct understanding of modes. C major isn't E phrygian; E phrygian isn't C major. The fingerings might be the same, but fingerings aren't modes. There should be more of an emphasis on harmony, rather than melody, in an article on modulation.
POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 11:42 am / quote |
yao151 :
thats alotta theory...
POSTED: 08/17/2008 - 08:39 pm / quote |
TravuhsWree :
That's not that much theory, I'm no theory whiz... but I think I've seen the worst of it, but this lesson helped, using common chords is something I never learned, I will apply this to my playing, much thanks.
POSTED: 08/20/2008 - 08:48 pm / quote |
beavers333 :
Great lesson. Travuhs - not an extreme amount of theory here, just more or less unfamiliar words .

Brokenanthem, if you are going to do a series of lessons, Id absolutely love a great Melodic Phrasing lesson. Or even just Melodic Control as there isnt a lot to do with melody in these lessons.

Cheers.

POSTED: 08/25/2008 - 10:16 am / quote |
revtfunk :
I have to agree with titopuente...

There are several statements in your lesson with which I cannot agree. Number 1: If you modulate from the key of C to the key of G you are NOT going from Ionian to Mixolydian. You simply modulated.

Now, if a G7 chord is played during a song in the key of C the sound will become Mixolydian, but that is not a modulation. The key did not change. There will be an F natural, not an F#.

The C major scale is C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C = 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
The G mixolydian scale is G,A,B,C,D,E,F,G = 1,2,3,4,5,6,b7,8

I see several online guitar sites with lessons suggesting that where your hand is determines the mode. THAT IS COMPLETELY INCORRECT!

If the chord progression is ||:CM7 | FM7 :|| there is no place you can put your hand to sound mixolydian. The mixolydian sound is a by-product of a dominant chord.

POSTED: 08/27/2008 - 02:22 am / quote |
farcry :
yeah you go from C Ionian to G Ionian, not Mixolydian. Not sure why you said that.... please explain your reasoning.
POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 03:12 am / quote |
farcry :
And saying diatonic to C major in your third last paragraph isn't right. G major is not diatonic to C major, at least not in the world I live in.
POSTED: 09/01/2008 - 03:15 am / quote |
adarsh_cool1 :
i completely agree with 'revtfunk' and 'farcry'..going from c maj to g maj is a complete shift of scale rather than a mode shift..eg in the key of c there can be a g mixolydian however in the key of g the relative mode would be d mixolydian. .
POSTED: 09/06/2008 - 09:09 am / quote |
Corby1888 :
yh....i understand....i can play johnny b goode.....bye
POSTED: 09/13/2008 - 06:18 pm / quote |
ddusandu :
Nice lesson, I'm gonna use it in my songwriting right away :P
POSTED: 09/15/2008 - 03:53 pm / quote |
Jac the frog :
What determines a modulation is the affirmation of the new tonality with the V / I cadence of the new tonality.
your example ( C major with E minor to G major ) is not a real modulation, in fact just /I /III/ V /III /I/ in Cmajor .
For a real( little or "loan") modulation from C major to G major with the E minor as a pivot chord : C major( I of C Maj)/Em(III of Cmaj/ VI of GMaj)/ DMaj ( V of Gmaj)/ Gmaj (I of Gmaj).This example is not a beauty for the ears (VI/V/I ) and because Gmaj is also the V of CMaj the duration of the progression
I/(III/VI)/V/I is too short to escape the "grip" of CMAJ... We should have a "walk" in the tonality of GMaj more time to forget that of CMAJ,and include other chords of the GMaj tonality (preferably outside the CMAJ key ) before confirming by the V / I in GMaj. There are lots of other ways to make modulations and those of the Baroque era are not made like those of the Romantic era for example, but the starting point is the V / I cadence (the equal tempered scale in fact and the modulation on the tonal tempered scale is dead since Arnold Schönberg )

POSTED: 12/02/2008 - 09:10 pm / quote |
Jac the frog :
For those who do not have problems with reading the "Choral Gesange" by JS Bach is a fantastic tool for understanding the links between melody and chords.
POSTED: 12/02/2008 - 09:27 pm / quote |
Elizondo :
cant you just take the dominant of the note you are modulating to and play it as a 7 chord and use that as a transition chord?
so if you are modulating to the key of Cmaj, could you modulate using G7 as a transition chord?

POSTED: 01/01/2009 - 04:57 am / quote |
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