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Neo-Classical Metal Music

author: Donkey Fly date: 10/03/2007 category: music styles
rating: 9 / votes: 58 
POSTED: 10/03/2007 - 07:32 am
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soulphonate :
Cool article. Should help develop some shredders.
POSTED: 10/03/2007 - 11:42 am / quote |
webbster87 :
i love classical sounding stuff on guitar! It just cool to play! I like the article kind of short though!
POSTED: 10/04/2007 - 12:29 am / quote |
sk8rMeTaLhEaD27 :
you got most of this from wikipedia.
POSTED: 10/10/2007 - 09:55 pm / quote |
Neebster :
excellent
POSTED: 10/14/2007 - 09:29 pm / quote |
nido :
I like neo classic, some useful stuff here..thanks for sharing....
POSTED: 10/17/2007 - 03:20 pm / quote |
Ian_Hendrix :
finally something besides vibrato that makes me glad I play violin and guitar.
thank you so freaking much.

POSTED: 10/18/2007 - 04:21 pm / quote |
Corman15 :
Very good, thanks for the lesson!
POSTED: 10/20/2007 - 01:23 pm / quote |
Saycheeze :
Very helpfull! 10x man!
POSTED: 10/20/2007 - 04:50 pm / quote |
Caressing Death :
Great lesson but you should deal more with the fundamentals of classical music that can be used in neo-classical music like counterpoint, and harmony.
Maybe a little part on violining and dynamics.
Also, give some examples of how to apply pedal points and the various techniques.

POSTED: 10/21/2007 - 10:45 am / quote |
Altinibanez :
nice lesson
POSTED: 11/08/2007 - 06:34 am / quote |
Scoobie_Snack :
A great lesson mate. I'm new to neo-classical and this was enough info to get me started, not too hard to get results from and presented in a very coherent way. Thanks for posting it!
POSTED: 11/08/2007 - 06:46 pm / quote |
webbster87 :
do you really got to play that fast 120 bpm! That's crazy to me! i can't play that fast!

POSTED: 11/16/2007 - 02:59 am / quote |
ParkerScks :
you got most of this from wikipedia.

lol but still good article

POSTED: 11/21/2007 - 03:14 pm / quote |
ParkerScks :
btw one more thing people shuld really lisen to Paganini if you can get a hold of any of his pices erm i cant i have 3 of them but its crazy the dude is like well fastest stuff iv ever herd seriosly that kid was nuts
POSTED: 11/21/2007 - 03:17 pm / quote |
eetfuk58 :
nice work.
POSTED: 11/28/2007 - 10:33 am / quote |
sharpshootr55 :
Really good article, though i would have liked to have seen some mention of Jason Becker, but that's just my opinion.
POSTED: 12/02/2007 - 02:48 am / quote |
Donkey Fly :
Yer, there are alot of people i missed out of this article. If you really want to develop your playing and stufff you should really look into all the composers and guitarists in the style that you can.

I didn't even know this got accepted. Glad to see you like it.

POSTED: 12/04/2007 - 09:23 am / quote |
sTx :
webbster87 wrote:

do you really got to play that fast 120 bpm! That's crazy to me! i can't play that fast!


That's why metronomes have variable speeds.

POSTED: 12/05/2007 - 01:31 pm / quote |
chrillen :
Dude thats a really good lession. Thanks 4 it xD
POSTED: 12/10/2007 - 09:17 am / quote |
tatertot13 :
dude this is the best lesson I've ever read thank you so much it's helped me alot keep doing wwhat you're doing!
POSTED: 12/11/2007 - 01:39 pm / quote |
samtberg :
The fact that Rhoads took time to learn theory aswell as just 'shredding' really set him apart from any of the guitarists from the past 40 years.


Is this to say NO guitarists until Rhoads used theory? I've haven't heard anything so preposterous for some time!

POSTED: 12/17/2007 - 10:23 am / quote |
death_metalhead :
it's true...most of this is from wikipedia...not too much original theory other than a few licks...not badly organized though...
POSTED: 12/17/2007 - 02:51 pm / quote |
damagecontrol77 :
death_metalhead and caressing death are right...

if you want to play this type of music, it's very important to study up on some theory to fully understand it. All those composers were very talented and knew how theory works, hence you get these truely awesome pieces.

My advice is to take a theory class at your local junior college and start from there. Not everybody is as 'gifted' or 'talented' as some crazy ass player who play this without any instruction or knowledge. Your average joe (like me) has to practice/study his ass off to one day play a Bach piece on a classical or electric guitar. ( almost there thou!) :]

Also you may want to listen to classical guitarists play or learn their methods of playing like Andrés Segovia (some say he put classical guitar on the map for good).But this would mean that you have to learn to read music.


POSTED: 12/17/2007 - 07:07 pm / quote |
Floyal :
Very good lesson the licks sound quiet nice am kinda using them with some improvisation
POSTED: 12/29/2007 - 04:16 pm / quote |
spartan 118 :
samtberg wrote:

The fact that Rhoads took time to learn theory aswell as just 'shredding' really set him apart from any of the guitarists from the past 40 years.


Is this to say NO guitarists until Rhoads used theory? I've haven't heard anything so preposterous for some time!


No, I think he was just implying that he was the first true 'shredder' that knew a lot of theory rather than picking it up and hitting random notes really fast.

POSTED: 12/30/2007 - 09:46 am / quote |
ironwolg :
damagecontrol77 wrote:

death_metalhead and caressing death are right...

if you want to play this type of music, it's very important to study up on some theory to fully understand it. All those composers were very talented and knew how theory works, hence you get these truely awesome pieces.

My advice is to take a theory class at your local junior college and start from there. Not everybody is as 'gifted' or 'talented' as some crazy ass player who play this without any instruction or knowledge. Your average joe (like me) has to practice/study his ass off to one day play a Bach piece on a classical or electric guitar. ( almost there thou!) :]

Also you may want to listen to classical guitarists play or learn their methods of playing like Andrés Segovia (some say he put classical guitar on the map for good).But this would mean that you have to learn to read music.


i agree, and some people are only gifted with technique, and not a great ability to learn and understand music theory(that would be me). i would give the same advice and encourage all people who wish to learn neo classical to learn classical guitar and to learn how to read music(i'm working on that right now). it's certainly not easy to convert from tab to music but keep practicing on it, it'll all pay off when you can take any peice of music and play it for your friends

POSTED: 01/11/2008 - 11:19 pm / quote |
ironwolg :
webbster87 wrote:

do you really got to play that fast 120 bpm! That's crazy to me! i can't play that fast!


don't sweat it, just work on speed for a while until you can. i reccommend John Petrucci's Rock Discipline. it deals a lot with speed, plus you get great warm up advice and it helps you everywhere else. i just wish there was a music theory section but i guess this is mainly a technique video

POSTED: 01/11/2008 - 11:24 pm / quote |
human panda :
cool lesson
POSTED: 01/29/2008 - 05:16 am / quote |
Miracle_Man :
your tab from Malmsteen's Far Beyond the Sun is wrong. The strings are shifted up by one on the middle line, for example the 7th fret on the B should be a 7th fret on the G
POSTED: 03/07/2008 - 01:06 pm / quote |
Miracle_Man :
Good lesson overall though
POSTED: 03/07/2008 - 01:06 pm / quote |
Ardie japanese :
I think this cool!!!
Thanks for your info!!!!


POSTED: 03/08/2008 - 09:41 am / quote |
bulletrocks522 :
I cant understand what a circle of fiths is. "key signatures are added to each segments in intervals of a 5th. If you move clockwise in 5ths around this circle, you will find that each major scale differs from the preceding scale by only one note. In each case, the subsequent major scale is formed by raising or sharpening (#) the note on the 7th degree (the leading note) by a half step/semitone." I dont understand any of that part. Can someone explain to me what it means to someone who knows some theory, but not to much?
POSTED: 03/29/2008 - 01:37 am / quote |
donfeliz :
anyone else catch the black star lick? awesome lesson btw
POSTED: 04/21/2008 - 08:08 pm / quote |
G.J. :
just what I was looking for, I'm gonna go and have hours of fun!
POSTED: 05/13/2008 - 06:09 pm / quote |
draceul :
well this is something kinda new for me, and 120 bpm for half the stuff up there isn't that hard thats about how fast i can play caprice 5 from Paganini. I've checked out the caprice 5 on here but its only like the beginning.
POSTED: 05/23/2008 - 11:25 pm / quote |
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POSTED: 05/27/2008 - 09:05 am / quote |
JulianxTx91 :
Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but the transcription of the Melodic Minor Scale is incorrect as the 7th isn't raised in its first appearance when played acsending.

The scale reads: 245-24-124-124... etc.

It should read: 245-24-134-124... etc.

Hopes that helps clear things up.

POSTED: 06/24/2008 - 07:06 pm / quote |
JulianxTx91 :
Also, as I've read on, the Harmonic Minor Run is incorrect.

The run reads: 91112-91112-111214-101214... etc.

It should read: 91112-91112-101113-91113... etc.

Sorry, I feel like I'm being abit pedantic now, haha.

POSTED: 06/24/2008 - 09:29 pm / quote |
RSlove :
Excellent I also love the part were you explained how the metal genre relates to the classical style.
POSTED: 07/16/2008 - 10:17 pm / quote |
Dimebag Dave :
This does not help. Most of this is what people already know about neo-classical metal, as opposed to teaching us how to compose such a thing on guitar.

Giving a few examples of neo-classical playing a neo-classical guitar player it does not make.

POSTED: 07/20/2008 - 10:39 pm / quote |
Skylargann19 :
Very very interesting, however I'm sure that he was just explaining what exactly Neo-classical music was, becaues it was more of a definition than a lesson with some very good theory bits (the harmonic minors and melodic minor diagrams were very nice, and kind of helped clear that "what the hell are those numbers for" kind of deal that new guitarists have)...So very well done, I enjoyed reading it. Good job.
Dimebag Dave wrote:

This does not help. Most of this is what people already know about neo-classical metal, as opposed to teaching us how to compose such a thing on guitar.

Giving a few examples of neo-classical playing a neo-classical guitar player it does not make.

POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 10:42 am / quote |
scoobydoo_666@h :
thanks this has been a really big help =] ive learnt a new style and now im writing my own stuff using this =]
POSTED: 07/24/2008 - 09:38 am / quote |
hitman_47 :
Brilliant man! Love this stuff. Seriously! Love classical and love shred!
POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 01:09 pm / quote |
mMetalmaniac :
Come on everyone who wants to play Neo classical metal, we need a lot more shredders out there. We need more people to play like bands in the 80s. Because everybody and I mean everybody played like this. Not many bands play like this today, but they're still cool but I would recommend people to study their scales and more techniques, because we need to come above all this new music like rap and other music like that.
POSTED: 01/21/2009 - 08:53 pm / quote |
Tengatu Man :
mMetalmaniac wrote:

Come on everyone who wants to play Neo classical metal, we need a lot more shredders out there. We need more people to play like bands in the 80s. Because everybody and I mean everybody played like this. Not many bands play like this today, but they're still cool but I would recommend people to study their scales and more techniques, because we need to come above all this new music like rap and other music like that.

practice scales more! todays music sucks! lol
but yea i agree

POSTED: 01/23/2009 - 09:27 pm / quote |
mMetalmaniac :
Tengatu Man wrote:

mMetalmaniac wrote:

Come on everyone who wants to play Neo classical metal, we need a lot more shredders out there. We need more people to play like bands
in the 80s. Because everybody and I mean everybody played like this. Not many bands play like this today, but they're still cool but I would recommend people to study their scales and more techniques, because we need to come above all this new music like rap and other music like that.
practice scales more! todays music sucks! lol
but yea i agree


Finaly Someone who agrees with me thanks man.

POSTED: 01/26/2009 - 01:26 am / quote |
Funeral Moon :
Does anyone know what piece the Paganini style lick is from? I know I've heard it somewhere.
POSTED: 02/02/2009 - 07:22 pm / quote |
rejmond :
Playing Neo-classical metal means the ultimate knowledge for music and guitar and the base for playing is that you really got to listen classical music first.the article is O.K. nothing special, but in the end for playing Malmsteen,Ulli John Roth(nobody mentiones him WHY???)and ofcourse the classical masterpieces you just have to feel the music.
POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 08:39 am / quote |
moonatblack :
Amazing.You should check out Luca Turrili from Rhapsody of Fire.Not the fastest,but his knowledge in Neo Classical music is amazing.And he can creat the most inspiring melodies you will ever hear.
POSTED: 03/15/2009 - 09:39 pm / quote |
ZeroChan :
Question: Is there a correlation between the chord progression that he showed with the Circle of Fifths? I don't see it. (Am Dm G C F B E Am). Explain please?
POSTED: 05/29/2009 - 11:51 pm / quote |
asystemdown :
ZeroChan wrote:

Question: Is there a correlation between the chord progression that he showed with the Circle of Fifths? I don't see it. (Am Dm G C F B E Am). Explain please?


Im trying to learn more about progressoins myself, but I think I can help. This progression is based off of an A Aeolian scale which is not mentioned. It is actually a progression of fourths until the movement between F and B, which is the tritone interval he talked about, and then back to a movement of fourths until it rests on the tonal center at A. If you moved purely in fifths or fourths you would run into a lot of notes that don't fit well with that particular scale. B major is one chord in the progression that isn't actually part of the A Aeolian scale; B should be diminished, but with the use of the harmonic minor scale this chord fits nicely.

POSTED: 07/03/2009 - 10:04 pm / quote |
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