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The Ultimate Metal Guide |
| author: Unregistered |
date: 07/01/2005 |
category: music styles |
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In counteraccordance to the metalcore lesson, I am writing this lesson to cover everything not covered by that guy. I am an all around player, playing anything from blues/bluegrass to metal to classical. Whichever genre I decide to play, I will find the best guitar players in that particular genre and chase his dream until I have mastered his style. In the following text I will be examining the techniques of guitar players such as John Petrucci (Dream Theater), Adam Dutkiewitz (Killswitch Engage), Willie Adler and Mark Morton (Lamb Of God), and various others. This is nothing other but a piece together puzzle for you to use to make your own jams. Ðave fun with it. To me, the coolest part of metal music is the intensive use of pinch harmonics, but in this lesson I will use examples fit for the occasion. Take this piece from Lamb Of God's "Laid To Rest" for example. *= pinch |-------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------| |-2-2-2-2------2-2-2-2--------2-2--2--------------------| |-2-2-2-2-3b*--2-2-2-2-3b*----2-2--2-2-3-2-5-4-3--------| PM------- ------- ------ Unlike most uneducated guitar players who first learn this type of harmonic, these dramatic interludes are perfect for riffs with integral drum and bass lines to make them stand out from the rest of the music (as if they dont already). It doesn't take a lot of planning to hit the right note with these, but the wrong bending or finger vibration may throw off the pitch, so be careful when adding a measure with pinch harmonics. As the metalhead stated in the metalcore lesson, another great, and widely used, part of metal is hammer on/pull off methods. Yeah yeah, I'm sure you advanced guys are whining about how you already know this. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you didnt know, the variation of these fissures that you use directly influences the mood you observe while writing/listening to this music. I have a couple of examples of different variations of hammer on/pull offs that might just make the one riff you cant quite get right, a little more appeasing to the ears. The first example is taken from "In The Name Of God" by Dream Theater. Dream Theater may not be considered metal, but John Petrucci's riffs have got badass metal influence period so STFU! Fig. 1 Fig. 2 |-----------------------|-----------------------|------------------| |-----------------------|-----------------------|------------------| |-----------------------|-----------------------|------------------| |-----------------------|-----------------------|------------------| |---7-(7)---7b8r(7)-5-8-|-7---------2h3h5p3p2---|-7----5h7h8p7p5-8-| |-0-------0-------------|---0-(0)-0-----------0-|----0-------------| That is the best example of original, conventional hammer/pulls I can imagine. But there is, however, another variation that appeals to me, in which you must pause after the first note, then hammer and pull quickly afterwards. This variation is seen in alot of melodic, rhythmic solos, such as this which, in fact, is in the same song. |--------------------13h16h17p16p13----16h17h19p17p16-----| |-15p13-----13h15h17---------------h17----------------h18-| |--------h16----------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------| |---------------------------------------------------------| |-17h19h20p19p17---| |--------------h21-| |------------------| |------------------| |------------------| |------------------| Lets see. The metalhead said something along the lines of "In every metal song there is a 'breakdown' in which there is a long progression of palm muted notes." Hmm, other than the fact that it is usually not a "breakdown," but rather a toned down part of the song to set a certain mood, that is somewhat true. On the other hand, nowadays, atleast with the good bands, these pieces arent really used that much. There is just alot of thrashing, really active guitar. Also, all these notes are usually not muted. Alot of the time there is multiple open E muting or if it's dropped down, then some open D or C# muting, and then some various other notes which must be picked very cautiously. Sometimes these parts of the song are not concentrated on the guitar so much as other instruments in the band. The metalheads example was rather dull, considering that the bands he used arent so strong in guitar abilities. Lets see. I will use this example from "Vida Infra" by Killswitch Engage. |---------------------------------|----------------| |---------------------------------|----------------| |---------------------------------|----------------| |---------------------------------|-5--3-1-0-1-3-1-| |-5---------------5-------6-------|-5--3-1-0-1-3-1-| |---0-000-0-000-0---000-0---000-0-|-5--3-1-0-1-3-1-| PM... The metalhead, not surprisingly, didnt have much soloing capabilities. I will just give a few examples of some techniques and you can pick and choose. The first thing I would like to cover is trills. Trills are the s--t! Tapping is the s--t! If you have ever listened to Metallica before they became s--t, you would know that. One of the most worthy and infamous examples of trills and tapping is in the third solo from "One" by Metallica. T = Tap using edge of pick p = pull off finger or pick E-19p15p12--19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-| B-----------------------------------------------------------------| G-----------------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T E-19p15p12-20p15p12--20p15p12-20p15p12-20p15p12-20p15p12-20p15p12-| B-----------------------------------------------------------------| G-----------------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------------|
T T T T T T T T E-20p15p12-20p15p12-----------------------------------------------| B-------------------19p15p12--19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-| G-----------------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T E-----------------------------------------------------------------| B-19p15p12-19p15p12-19p15p12-20p15p12--20p15p12-20p15p12-20p15p12-| G-----------------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T E-----------------------------------------------------------------| B-20p15p12-20p15p12-20p15p12-20p15p12-17p13p10--17p13p10-17p13p10-| G-----------------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T E-----------------------------------------------------------------| B-17p13p10-17p13p10-17p13p10-17p13p10-17p13p10-18p13p10--18p13p10-| G-----------------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T E-------------------------------------------------------| B-18p13p10-18p13p10-18p13p10-18p13p10-18p13p10-18p13p10-| G-------------------------------------------------------| D-------------------------------------------------------| A-------------------------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T T T T T E---------------------------------------| B-17p12h14-17p12-17p10-17p12-17p10-17p8-| G---------------------------------------| D---------------------------------------| A---------------------------------------| E---------------------------------------| T T T T T T T T T T T T E----------------------------------| B-17p10-17p8-17p7-17p8-17p7-17p5---| G----------------------------------| D----------------------------------| A----------------------------------| E----------------------------------| E------------------------------14-14-14-| B-/12-12-12--12-12-12--12--12-----------| G---------------------------------------| D---------------------------------------| A---------------------------------------| E---------------------------------------| E-15-15-15--17-17-17------------17-17-17-17-| B---------------------15-15-15--------------| G-------------------------------------------| D-------------------------------------------| A-------------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------------| E-22^24-------22^24----22^24~|~\---------------15-----| B----------------------------|--------------/17--------------| G----------------------------|-------------------------------| D----------------------------|-------------------------------| A----------------------------|-------------------------------| E----------------------------|-------------------------------| E-17p15---------------15h17p15-------------| B--------17-15-17-19-----------17-15-17-19-| G------------------------------------------| D------------------------------------------| A------------------------------------------| E------------------------------------------| E-15h17p15-------------15h17p15-------------15-| B----------17-15-17-19------------17-17-19-----| G----------------------------------------------| D----------------------------------------------| A----------------------------------------------| E----------------------------------------------| E-17p15------------15-17p15---------15h17----| B--------15-17-19------------17--15----------| G--------------------------------------------| D--------------------------------------------| A--------------------------------------------| E--------------------------------------------| E-19p17p15-----19p17p15-----19p17p15------19p17p15----------| B----------15-----------15------------15------------15------| G-----------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------| E-19p17--------19p17--------19p17---------19p17p15----------| B----------15-----------15------------15--------------------| G-----------------------------------------------------------| D-----------------------------------------------------------| A-----------------------------------------------------------| E-----------------------------------------------------------| E-------15-------15-------15-------15-| B-18^20----18^20----18^20----18^20----| G-------------------------------------| D-------------------------------------| A-------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------| E-18^19-15-------15-18^19-15-------15-| B----------18^20-------------18^20----| G-------------------------------------| D-------------------------------------| A-------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------| E-19p17p15-17----17p15----15----------| B----------------------19-------------| G-------------------------------------| D-------------------------------------| A-------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------| B-19p17p15-17-----15h17p15\13--15-----| G-------------------------------------| D-------------------------------------| A-------------------------------------| E-------------------------------------| E------------------------------------------|| B-13h15p13\12--13-----12h13p12----12-------|| G------------------------------14----14p12-|| D------------------------------------------|| A------------------------------------------|| E------------------------------------------|| E------------------------------------------------------------| B------------------------------------------------------------| G-14p12----12----12--14^-14^-14^--14^16-14^16-----v14p12-----| D-------14----14------------------------------------------14-| A------------------------------------------------------------| E------------------------------------------------------------| E---------------------|--------------|---------------------------| B---------------------|--------------|---------15^----------15^--| G-12-----12-----------|--------------|---------15^----------15^--| D----14------14-13-12-|--------------|-17--17--------17--17------| A---------------------|-14-13-12-10~|---------------------------| E---------------------|--------------|---------------------------| E---------------------------|-------------------| B---------15^----------15^--|-17^-v-^-v-^-17^v^-| G---------15^----------15^--|-17^-v---v-^-17^v^-| D-17--17--------17--17------|-------------------| A---------------------------|-------------------| E---------------------------|-------------------| Lots of tapping and trills, but most metal music doesnýt have all that. Mostly metal, if you get really hardcore metal like old Slayer and all those old style metal bands, they just do alot of shredding. Thatýs where metalhead's theory comes into play.
A lot of scales and bends and all that. The only thing he forgot to mention was the strategic placement of bends in order to keep them in tune with the song. Random bending is a no! Random piecing of scales together is a big no! Think this shit out you dumb shits! It's not that hard. Figure out where the scales piece together, and where the bends sound good, and where to drop down an octave. If you can drop an octave in your scales in a metal song, you have got it made. If you dont like this lesson I don't give a f--k! How about that? Good luck to all who this may help. To all that would like to thrash this lesson b/c of a typo or something, go fuck yourself, b/c you have nothing else to do but thrash someone elses work to make yourself feel better. Take a lesson from me. I didn't thrash metalcore guy who wrote that other lesson. I skillfully corrected his mistakes.
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121 comments posted, 40 removed | this article is 75% spam-free |
slash_pwns
: So... You wrote this just so you could make the 'metal head' look bad?POSTED: 07/01/2005 - 08:45 am / quote |
Kappa
: Boy, you're gonna get flamed big time for categorizing Lamb Of God and Killswitch Engage (though Killswitch Engage are cool) Metal.POSTED: 07/01/2005 - 01:20 pm / quote |
ctb
: Looks like just a bunch of tabs here It was quite bad.POSTED: 07/02/2005 - 05:13 am / quote |
thesmartguy50
: hmmm... well, the main problem I tink would be the fact that the lesson isnt really comprehensive... he just kind of threw it together, i think... and yeah, i can't believe you categorized Lamb of God metal, no matter how great they may sound. I won't vote, simply because I may be missing something, and its not very fair to put down this guy, as hes learning from us just as much as us from him.POSTED: 07/03/2005 - 01:34 am / quote |
mortiis999
: this was crap. you tabbed out the one solo *A - F'ucking_ gain*POSTED: 07/03/2005 - 08:05 am / quote |
Ricko
: 10 for the time you took to write this 0 for the teachingPOSTED: 07/09/2005 - 03:02 pm / quote |
jazzguy75
: I'd vote it bad, it wasn't a lesson, it was a brainstorm. And what's with all you guys getting pissed by calling Lamb of God metal? What is it then?POSTED: 07/10/2005 - 09:15 pm / quote |
ThrashDemon
: what is lamb of god?its metalcorePOSTED: 07/14/2005 - 01:12 am / quote |
commonlerror
: the lesson sucked but cause of your little thrashing speach at the end i'll give you five stars if that's all that will make you happyPOSTED: 07/14/2005 - 08:53 pm / quote |
The Powerslave
: Does the 'core' at the end matter hugely? Its still basically metal, as opposed to punk, blues or pop? It wasnt a bad lesson, just not great. 2.5-3 stars.POSTED: 07/15/2005 - 01:12 pm / quote |
Spanner
: You basically badly explained my lesson, how the hell are these people going to learn if you dont explain anything to them, you just labelled a few techniques and tabbed a few examples, it is important to clearly explain these things to beginners, as they like to know what they are doing. Plus it is a bit ridiculous the way you rae merely trying to spite a UG member, which I notice you are not yourself.
1 star!!!, please make future lessons better!!!POSTED: 07/16/2005 - 02:54 pm / quote |
Spanner
: Damn im a bad typist, that "rae" should be "are"POSTED: 07/16/2005 - 02:56 pm / quote |
Jack3n665.5
: Metal core matters only to those who listen to metal, because theirs so many sub genres for those of, unlike my dad who know Anthrax isnt a video game (that is a classic, I have no idea how he guessed that one)POSTED: 07/22/2005 - 02:34 am / quote |
Jack3n665.5
: Oh he heard the music and thought it was a video I was playing, not heard the name or seen an albulm cover, which I could understand.POSTED: 07/22/2005 - 02:35 am / quote |
xLonExWolFx
: dudes... metalcore derives from hardcore. BUT I guess we could categorize it as metal.. I mean, it is very close to thrash, for example. so I don't understand why are you guys all pissed with the "you called them metal" thing... oh yeah, saying killswitch engage is metal... that's a big NO!
and you didn't explain anything, but hey, good try! POSTED: 07/22/2005 - 09:45 am / quote |
abigape
: i like metal but i dont like thisPOSTED: 07/25/2005 - 05:37 am / quote |
slashdude666
: killswitch engage are ***in metal
oh yeah, this lesson sucks ass POSTED: 07/27/2005 - 12:55 pm / quote |
Spanner
: Emmm, this is the comments, section isnt it?POSTED: 08/02/2005 - 12:12 pm / quote |
mcbradntasha
: i like your effort to try bro. i wouldnt catagorize killswitch in metal....lamb of god eigther....but its cool...id give you a 3 or 4 out of 10 cuz you tried.POSTED: 08/17/2005 - 04:30 pm / quote |
big_d_ibanez
: if killswitch engage and lamb of god aren't metal, what are they? (please real answer, not just "ur a dumbass")POSTED: 09/15/2005 - 12:17 pm / quote |
Megatron
: This is a good lesson if you ignore the pretentiousness, it's well explained in the author's mindset, but darkness clouds his judgement at the end, and it all grinds into s h i t at the flick of his fingers..... ..
I can understand getting pissed off at elitist ***tards, if they actually said anything to you; but your presumtuous, pretentious tirade about us all being dumbshits for whatever reason was wrong.....and for your info, I did find this helpful and gave me ideas, but you ruined it by basically writing an article with the mindset of "Wow, I don't like this 'Metalhead' fellow, so I'm going to make a topic belittling and berating the metal scene and to show my holier than thou attitude to guitar playing, just so I can make him feel bad and take the piss out of a bunch of people I'm supposedly trying to help."
One of the main rules of teaching/tutoring, is to have respect for your pupils as you should expect the same back- going off on a tangent and deciding to get angry without any given reason, provocation or even just cause was irresponsible, and defeats the purpose of creating a lesson.
Inspire- Don't Belittle.
Respect- Don't Talk Down.
Aim- Come out of a lesson with feelings of Achievement
Teach- Don't Chastise.
Educate- Give knowledge, not vindictiveness.
IRATE- Only be that way if it's necessary; there's too much hate in the world only to be added to senselessly.
It's that simple.....
So, bottom line is to have respect, teach well and for gods sake show a wee shade of empathy and humility and you may well write a very good lesson someday.
On a sidenote- I've been playing guitar for close to seven months now, and I'm progressing.....I love metal music, and understand everything you have already said about soloing, but to say;
"The metalhead, not surprisingly, didnt have much soloing capabilities."
Is an insult to my personal intelligence, and I find it highly irritating that a guy proposing that his topic is "The Ultimate Metal Lesson" could be so arrogant in slagging it off in as many ways as possible. If you don't like metal, stay away from it man, and actually play something you respect- not come in here and tell the fans of a particular genre that they are basically guitar barbarians.
I'm well aware that you're better than me by the way, considerably so- but personally I don't wish to be talked down by yourself, so kindly stick to what you like to play, and leave the metal to someone with a little humility towards it. [4/10]POSTED: 09/15/2005 - 07:09 pm / quote |
kevinm4435
: I would hardly call this "ultimate."POSTED: 09/15/2005 - 07:42 pm / quote |
big_d_ibanez
: hey megatron, that was a damn good speech man!!!POSTED: 09/16/2005 - 09:47 am / quote |
grimreaper65
: Metalcore is hardcore, a form of punk mixed with metal, usually thrashier type stuffPOSTED: 09/21/2005 - 07:15 pm / quote |
ordinarystory
: I can see that is all a part of metal.. but I don't see where the lessons are.. It goes from riff to solo to riff to mega-solo.. very ugly tab workPOSTED: 09/25/2005 - 07:34 pm / quote |
Disturbinator
: well.... id say that only thing good about this was the fact that u mentioned 'john petrucci' and 'in the name of god'.... bravo.
btw... Dream Theater doe belong to a certain category in Metal...
PS: put more effort in what you do.
and another thing, Megatron, that rocks that uve been playing for just 7 months... ive been for about 14...POSTED: 09/26/2005 - 06:04 am / quote |
thesmartguy50
: Megatron, you haven't been playing long, but you certainly have a good sense of guitar etiquette, as far as this ass of an author goes. I've pretty much decided that, yes, this tab sucks. POSTED: 09/26/2005 - 05:08 pm / quote |
bedurnk
: undefined wrote:
for all u bitches who think are arguing over the damn L.O.G thing u guys SUCK! where did hardcore and metal core come from? hardcore came from metal metalcore came from hardcore so technically everyone is right one wrong... bitches PAPA ROACH ROCKED THE JOINT IN VEGAS!
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Hardcore is just a harsher version of Punk Rock. Metalcore is hardcore that has a metal influence.POSTED: 09/27/2005 - 05:33 pm / quote |
Downfault
: I feel kinda sorry for you dude.Oh well rock on anyways.
POSTED: 10/07/2005 - 01:35 pm / quote |
charlie26
: who cares, just play guitar POSTED: 10/11/2005 - 04:38 pm / quote |
fallbackonus
: Unfortunately, you need to plan ya lesons first mate. I agree with jazzguy75, it was pretty much brainstorming. Or rather it was just whatever flew into your head when u sat in front of ya compooter. Onya for trying anyway. But seriously, think b4 ya you type.POSTED: 10/11/2005 - 05:17 pm / quote |
vines1stones
: to start lamb of god is really good i like there music. I believe it was a good idea to talk about pinch harmonics, hammerons, pulloffs, and tapping. But try to explain it more for those who dont know what those are. Also talk about scales alot, there is a shit load of metal solos out there, and there not just random notes. Also get very fast if ya wana play metal pratice picking exercizes, and exercise all 4 fingers. Metallica is godPOSTED: 10/13/2005 - 10:58 am / quote |
vines1stones
: and for christ sake who the hell cares what lamb of god is considered there a good band and thats all that matters
POSTED: 10/13/2005 - 11:01 am / quote |
Scourge441
: Contrary to what your lesson said...
1. Metal bands do use breakdowns. Metal breakdowns are different than hardcore breakdowns, though.
2. Dream Theater are considered metal, so there's no need to tell uf to STFU.
3. A metal guide isn't going to correct a metalcore guide. Metalcore has stuff in it that other types of metal don't use.
4. I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote the metalcore guide wasn't called "metal head."
5. You didn't skillfully correct the guy's mistakes. This article is just as bad.POSTED: 10/16/2005 - 02:55 pm / quote |
Darth Chridious
: I found the lesson quite handy but not enough points you only wrote about harmonics and solos there is more to metal than just thatPOSTED: 10/16/2005 - 09:48 pm / quote |
StoneRusty
: oh yea, i like charlies quote who cares jsut paly guitar but **** him for sayin lamb of god aint metal
POSTED: 10/17/2005 - 10:09 pm / quote |
Bilzzard_of_Ozz
: Dumb loser. Niether LoG nor KSE are metal! And besides the tabs are ****ed up and the examples of this "metal" are bad. One star.POSTED: 10/23/2005 - 07:36 am / quote |
The UG Squirrel
: StoneRusty wrote:
blizzard can **** off you dont know wut yur talkin about, you probably say the ****en used are metal and sorry charlie i thot you were bein a sarcastic dickhed about that , cool down lambofgod4750, hes just bein sarcastic |
no, blizzards right. im sorry.
this article was really shit. If youre going to pay out someone elses article in your article, make sure that your article is better, which in this case, is not. Very bad. One Star. POSTED: 11/12/2005 - 04:07 am / quote |
Pseudonaja
: Rather sucks. I learnt nothing. Actually, I can prove you wrong in alotta places.
But the one truth in ths article is the last bit about bending in the right places and getting your chord changes right. Shredding might sound cool if it's just alotta notes, but if you get it in the right key you get that *crowd going wild* thing...
Seen it. It works.POSTED: 11/17/2005 - 10:33 pm / quote |
Wolfdarrigan
: What the hell? Low g string? Um....has any one ever heard of a high g string?? And I'm siding with wizzle23 shut the hell up charlie26, say something productive or don't say any thing at all...as for the lesson...
"But there is, however, another variation that appeals to me, in which you must pause after the first note, then hammer and pull quickly afterwards. This variation is seen in alot of melodic, rhythmic solos, such as this which, in fact, is in the same song."....also known as a trill.
And....the metal head has many soloing capabilities.....for example....take some Iron Maiden...not only are there very well thought out, and planed solos, there are harmonizations that make it ten times harder, because two guys have to play the same solo at diffrent intervals...also listen to some Megadeth, they have a lot of good solos, along with well thought out scales, and just because you think that it isn't in a scale, I'm gunna bet that it is, because there are so manys scales its not funny. Yea, and I'm not going to bother taking sides on the "metalcore" vs. "hardcore" vs. "metal", ITS MUSIC, and lets leave it at that...
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just_miasma_it
: So what is this lesson supposed to do? Make you sound like a snobby ass? Cause it does that.POSTED: 11/19/2005 - 11:59 am / quote |
elfmaniac
: I consider Dream theater as Metal... Or the correct genre should be prog metal... OOH all these bloody genres! who caresPOSTED: 11/22/2005 - 01:01 pm / quote |
ThrashDemon
: I think he got it after the 1st post.
POSTED: 11/24/2005 - 09:10 pm / quote |
Metalology
: Contrary to what your lesson said...
1. Metal bands do use breakdowns. Metal breakdowns are different than hardcore breakdowns, though.
2. Dream Theater are considered metal, so there's no need to tell uf to STFU.
3. A metal guide isn't going to correct a metalcore guide. Metalcore has stuff in it that other types of metal don't use.
4. I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote the metalcore guide wasn't called "metal head."
5. You didn't skillfully correct the guy's mistakes. This article is just as bad.
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Thankyou.POSTED: 11/26/2005 - 04:31 pm / quote |
Metalology
: I was reading all these comments, and i registered just so that I could say that u all need a reality check!!!
Who the f**k cares what genre LoG is? They're an amazing band, and thats good enough for me!
btw, will u all stop dissin this dude, i mean he's only tryin to help u all, even though the lesson wasn't that good (sorry, but its true...) I've bin playin guitar for about 6 months now, and i just play whatever i feel like. I don't care what genre a certain band is!!! Just get on ur guitars and play, for christs sake!!!!!
The Killers Rock!!!!!
(that has no relevance to anything said so far, but i don't care!!!!!
Rock on Dudes!!!! (and dudesses...) |
Lamb of God are not metal and therefore do not belong in an Ultimate Metal Guide.POSTED: 11/26/2005 - 04:32 pm / quote |
another cliche
: for one, this isnt even about who likes lamb of god or not. its about this guy who made the lesson to help people learn the song. ok so charlie26 shut up! for one lamb of god is metal, if there not i supose opeth isnt either? what is metal huh. and shut up about this guy, i think he got it after the first comment you left him, if you dont like this lesson go make your own make it better for all i care. say lamb of god sucks, thats your own opinion. dont get pissed cause people have different likings. so really shut up dude. go make your own lesson if you dont like it.
-you dont know what kind of picks to buy? do you even play guitar? i bet you listen to that kenny chesnut. dont you....im gonna have to say dimefan88 knows what he's talking about, nice!POSTED: 12/01/2005 - 09:37 pm / quote |
charlie26
: actually i think the guy did a great lesson! he put his time and effort into trying to make you tards improve on your weak guitar skills. i love guitar and i love playing every type of music metal and classic rock is my thing. im sarcastic sometimes if you cant take a joke then go suck a pop singers bunghole 
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Basil's Kite
: lamb of god is shitty metalcore, barely a step up from slipknot.POSTED: 12/04/2005 - 02:26 pm / quote |
SkillzFromAbove
: Hey, all of you dissing lamboGod and Killswitch, you all frogot what metal is really about, sure lamb and killswitch and cradle of filth and slipknot may not be musically talented and may suck balls, but metal is "hard rock" son't forget it.POSTED: 12/06/2005 - 06:40 pm / quote |
Dark Meg
: does it frickin' matter if Lamb of God sucks or not? it only matters if they try to produce music and make us, including you ass holes happy. so at least say they're good for trying, even if they do suck so bad they make your frickin' eardrums bleed.POSTED: 12/09/2005 - 03:05 pm / quote |
ThrashDemon
: JonWooo wrote:
\m/ jamie \m/ wrote:
you guys are dickheads, metal is ****ing metal, **** subgenres. LAMB OF GOD ARE MEtal.
This dude is right. Who cares about subgenres? Call it whatever you want, just as long as you like it and it gets your adrenaline going. I listen to anything from Lamb Of God to Mushroomhead to The Smashing Pumpkins to Madball to Mastadon. Call the whatever in the hell you want to. Rock On!! \m/, ,\m/ |
Mastadon is the only remotely band you named in that postPOSTED: 12/10/2005 - 07:57 am / quote |
ThrashDemon
: Metalcore is just a weaker gayer rip off of Melodic DeathPOSTED: 12/13/2005 - 06:30 am / quote |
Mojo_jojo_111
: hahahaha well..... sorta hard to follow..... i hate readingPOSTED: 12/17/2005 - 01:59 pm / quote |
corybott
: im pretty sure that this is a place to give the writer input, not dick around trying to categorize metal. people create so many categories its ridiculous, just because one band sounds different than another. metal is metal, whether its black, death, thrash, core, or whatever. Just because LOG and KSW engage dont sound exactly like Iron Maiden or Slayer doesnt mean they arent metal.
Getting back to the actual lesson, it definitely needed work man, you didnt really teach anything, you just gave tabs from what you thought were metal songs. Learn more about what makes a genre a genre, and the neccesities involved before you write a column on it, or your gonna get flamed a thousand times like you just did.POSTED: 12/28/2005 - 10:49 pm / quote |
George898
: i could be bothad to read it all but i read some of it and it didnt really teach me anythingPOSTED: 12/29/2005 - 04:23 am / quote |
nukes88
: wow...could i imagine u guys using this kind of "language" in your day to day lives? well...i've played guitar for 2 years...but still don't know nth about what categories u put them music in...i juz listen to the radio....choose the song that ROCKS! and i come up here to check the tabs to see if anybody else thinks its cool...well no dissapointments there...
and 1 more thing...music is there for everyone to express their feelings....no matter what kind of music you're playing....metal...punk...or even folk lol....it's all juz music and i hope u guys respect that and stop insulting other types of music please...POSTED: 12/31/2005 - 11:09 am / quote |
notoriousnumber
: yes, we all know how homosexually perswaded genres are. wise words from guitarshredder1.
as for the lesson, crap. we really did need some one rambling on about how you can go and **** yourself if you dis this lesson. im sure we all know that we can go **** ourselfs but id rather not if you dont mind. thx for the really long, unco-ordinate formated tab of "one" by metallica. you could have just told us to check it out. oh well.
thank you for enlightning our lives; showing us how much of a bent spoon you are.POSTED: 01/03/2006 - 04:08 am / quote |
System_Freak
: ummm that just sucked...its 700 pm and i fell asleep like 6 times...POSTED: 01/05/2006 - 05:57 pm / quote |
TheNthDimension
: richard900 wrote:
how about *** all you people, this guy took his own time to do a lesson for you dumb shits and all you can do is critisize. |
He took his own time to write a lesson just because he doesn't agree with "the metalhead" and wants the world to know that he's "skilfully corrected his mistakes" for them. How kind. I'm sick of listening to people arguing about what is metalcore and what is hardcore and what is good and what isn't..get over it and if you like it, listen to it.POSTED: 01/06/2006 - 04:30 pm / quote |
kryptonite15
: just to let you all know, this guy really did suck at this lesson. yes, he tried to help us, but they would not have a comments page if we were not meant to say what we like or preferably, dont like. but, lamb of god and slipnot do go into the "genre" (if there is one) of metal. and really, quit ****in arguin! it really is pathetic
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Jeffthecedar
: "I didn't thrash metalcore guy who wrote that other lesson. I skillfully corrected his mistakes."
And you're modest too!POSTED: 01/12/2006 - 05:53 pm / quote |
Spanner
: Well (cough) this "lesson" without a doubt needs to be removed, pepole are not benefitting what so ever from it(I can tell why), and the comments are full of spam and Metal debates.POSTED: 01/14/2006 - 01:59 pm / quote |
robertreilly666
: wow this was totally pointless. who do i see bout gettin the last ten mins of my life back?
charlie26 should be banned, as should GuitarGod01
the latter purely for the homophobia in his posts.
the lesson -
well done for trying, you would make a terrible guitar tutor...
you critisised everything about metal, probably becase you arnt much of a guitarist...
i agree with spanner remove this lesson
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I_Play_Rock
: So, uhm... I would be a little more active at this site... but mostly everyone here is a bunch of flamers that need to shut the **** up. I am sick of people telling other people their lesson "Fuckin sucks".
All I have to say is you bastards are probably old enough to get a life, so do so and quit posting shit on a site that is meant to instruct others.POSTED: 01/15/2006 - 10:55 am / quote |
metalhead4life-
: but dun get me wrong fast guitar heavy distortion rank ass screamin thats wat makes metal so ****i nsweet but theres a limit u no wat im sayinPOSTED: 01/28/2006 - 01:21 pm / quote |
JonnyBhoy
: ok... so you managed to copy down the solo to OnePOSTED: 01/29/2006 - 11:47 am / quote |
the.iron.maiden
: hey,up there, i know swearing comes with metal, but you spelled so much wrong that you couldnt spell for sh**. literally. calm the frick down.
as for the lesson: astrick dude up there has a point in between the f- you's. why the hell are you criticizing metal if you know so much about it? tell me that.POSTED: 02/09/2006 - 07:09 pm / quote |
m
: *CLEANED OF SPAM* next spam post gets warned. POSTED: 02/12/2006 - 07:03 pm / quote |
SGdude452
: um, you call that a lesson? I'm pretty sure this thing made me f***in stupider. All you did was say "use tapping, use hammer ons, here's a tab" You can't even tab right. Please, make the world a better place and never become a teacherPOSTED: 02/18/2006 - 04:35 pm / quote |
m
:
SPAm. DeletedPOSTED: 02/25/2006 - 06:35 pm / quote |
fingersofflame
: big_d_ibanez wrote:
if killswitch engage and lamb of god aren't metal, what are they? (please real answer, not just "ur a dumbass" | ]
they are metalcore...there is a difference...it combines the elements of metal(usually heavy metal...sorta like metallica) and the elements of hardcore(sorta like...buddha for mary)..an example of a metalcore band, besides lamb of god and killswitch engage, is atreyu...an example of metal would be metallica, and possibly iron maiden...hardcore would be something like buddha for mary...or possibly god forbid...i am not so sure on that though...anyway, killswitch engage and lamb of god are METALCORE!!!!!POSTED: 02/28/2006 - 10:53 am / quote |
fingersofflame
: fingersofflame wrote:
something like buddha for mary |
i meant to say 30 seconds to mars...buddha for mary is a song by them...and just to add to my other post, who cares what genre or subgenre or subsubgenre a band is? sure it's nice to know, but in the end, does it really matter at all?POSTED: 02/28/2006 - 03:13 pm / quote |
LPIndin
: charlie26 wrote:
NSYNC,LAMB OF GOD, BACKSTREET BOYS,CRADLE OF FILTH,GREEN DAY GWAR, DISTURBED ECT. =ALL M E T A L |
no, nsync and backstreet are straight up hardcore. POSTED: 03/09/2006 - 03:46 pm / quote |
wangmaster
: what the hell is the difference between numetal, metal, metalcore etc. It all sounds the same to mePOSTED: 03/19/2006 - 10:21 am / quote |
Equatorguitar#1
: WOW. Jesus christ. Why do you think subgenres exist? Because not everyone wants to be the same. I know (as stated) this is SUPPOSED to be about the lesson but you people are stupid. Some. Not all. And... Backstreet Boys and Green Gay metal!? WTF. Anyway.. They call DEATH metal, BLACK metal, NU metal all DIFFERENT metal DIFFERENT because they are generally metal but its done a different way. As in, death metal has more poetry in their lyrics and Nu metal doesnt. For you that dont believe in subgenres, BANDS THEMSELVES make sub/genres.... not the people. And lastly, if you cannot tell the difference between Dark Tranquillity and Cradle of Filth, you dont listen to much metal.POSTED: 03/26/2006 - 12:31 pm / quote |
TheNthDimension
: Genres aside, is there much more to this lesson than the solo from One and a couple of riffs? Spot the explanation. 3/10 for the hating.POSTED: 06/11/2006 - 11:05 am / quote |
Fedex44
: Aguante el METAL..!!!!
MetallicA Rules!!
and dream theater its consider as a progressive metal...POSTED: 06/11/2006 - 10:01 pm / quote |
Spongerob47
: Lamb Of God is currently on tour with SLAYER....anyone want to say that SLAYER is not metal? Hmm....? POSTED: 06/12/2006 - 09:17 pm / quote |
blkbassplyr
: im so so disappointed . ....
most of you know the meaning of metal... and yet you fight for someone else's fame and glory like little preschoolers in a play ground..so 
first Metal in music means the substance one is made of not a style of music or lifestyle for that matter...so so sad....the term in music means to show one's meaning:Knowledge,Ability
,Skill's,Chop's...As a Musitian....today however the younger generation not knowing this tends to lable it as such for lack of knowledge, and in the tradition of the popularity syndrome for those who don't know or understand ... that metals roots are not from what's popular...It's a mind set , a form of Expresion, (ie.i must get my point across,in youre face,kick you in the nuts..(Hardcore)..or youre (Awesome melodicly talented ability,fast tempoed,Classical Esence)Metal...im not saying Hardcore isn't tallent nor am i favoring one for the other...i understand and Expres myself in the Genere of Metal. as i play Bass in my form of expession. in showing my Metal.....
so for all you Wise and knowledgeable out there dont forget to teach the history's of youre lessons aswell and let's put the bring the man down attitude cuse noone's ball's are bigger than the other mans cuse it take's a real man/woman to addmit theyre wrong...and the real wimp's are the bad asses behind the monitor.....and for you Jazz players who think theyre the shit..Jazz is just another way of saying i don't know what im doing....or these people don't know anything about music so i can play anything out of key...or these fool's my music is cool...
so you see it's just a matter of prefferance. not oppinion..like everyone's got oppinion's and *******'s and they both stink...petty POSTED: 08/14/2006 - 04:57 am / quote |
les_paul_01
: a word of advice for the future. embrace all different guitar styles, and don't immerse yourself in a petty debate about what styles of metal are better than others. you haven't come close to comprehensively explaining all different aspects of metal guitar, which you would hope an "ultimate" guide would. POSTED: 08/30/2006 - 07:20 am / quote |
metal_matt6
: screw what everyone else says I found this to be very helpful and informativePOSTED: 09/05/2006 - 03:46 pm / quote |
Mustaine365
: dude, this is way lame. like something a strung out teenager would write to impress some girl who isn't going to pay attention to it anyway but he still trys to get her to notice him but every time he fails..... EVERY TIME..... not that I would know anything about that or anything....POSTED: 09/05/2006 - 06:14 pm / quote |
Dumpster510
: For the record, the ITNOG riff is wrong. None of it is hammered on or pulled off, its all picked with the exception of the bent E to F on the A string.POSTED: 09/05/2006 - 07:45 pm / quote |
Alkaline300
: wow u were just ripping on metal head the whole time lolPOSTED: 09/06/2006 - 07:44 pm / quote |
esti
: Im sorry but ur lesson really sucked big time Mr. Metalhead !!!!!POSTED: 09/08/2006 - 06:55 pm / quote |
liam177lewis
: the metalhead unsuprisingly cant solo? ive just decided i dont like you.POSTED: 09/08/2006 - 08:11 pm / quote |
Dude...
: Wow were you drunk when you wrote this??? I just started and i think i could ahve done better. At least by sitting here not writing lessons i've p**sed off less people and they learned the same amount from me.POSTED: 09/11/2006 - 11:34 am / quote |
zObiPhiOn
: lesson content: saying that the metalhead's article was crap, then tabbing a big soloPOSTED: 09/12/2006 - 03:19 pm / quote |
m
: Woah, lol @ all of these old articles being bumped to the top....
And Lamb of God & KSE =/= not 'metal', despite what some people/ the bands may think. Seriously, listen to the stereotypical sound of each kind of 'metal' out there and say LOG & KSE fit in with that.
Lamb of God & KSE = Metalcore. This is coming from a KSE fan. And if anything LOG are perhaps more like a metal band who have watered down there stuff rather than the usual metalcore band.
Checked/Deleted.POSTED: 09/13/2006 - 01:24 am / quote |
pagan_bloodlust
: u should of had more on stuff like tremelo picking, vibrato, whammy bar vibrato, triplets, 16th note triplets mabey a bit on octave chords as some deathmetal uses those(napalm death uses them shitloads)and probaly something on rests, i forget who said this but i think it was dime less noise = more heavynessPOSTED: 09/13/2006 - 02:14 am / quote |
nathan.price
: WTF if you hate it so much just log iff your computer and start playing your guitar, you're all supposed tpo be guitarists, then why are you always in front of your compouters?POSTED: 09/14/2006 - 05:00 pm / quote |
Silvertone_man1
: Is there any way anybody can translate this into a bass lesson or somethin plz i would really apreciate it just email me to let me know. silvertone_man1@hotmail.comPOSTED: 10/18/2006 - 12:42 pm / quote |
eraoftragedy
: Wow, I just stumbled on this lesson and the chat afterwards is way more entertaining. However, I'm 31, been into metal since roughly just before Slayer released South Of Heaven. I like to think that I'm just old enough to remember "metal" and just young enough to appreciate (and play) "modern metal"... and... I've been listening to LOG for years and I must be existing in another world from you guys b/c I have never, in all these years, heard so many people, so emphatically state that LOG is "not metal". That's like me saying Run DMC is not "rap". WTF!?POSTED: 02/17/2007 - 12:10 am / quote |
STABxYOU
: LoG is metal, KSE is metalcore, both are crap.
Also, this is more of an angry guy flaming someone else's lesson then a lesson.POSTED: 03/31/2007 - 03:29 am / quote |
keywork2389
: Considering one of LOG slogans is "True American Metal", i would say they are metal. POSTED: 06/10/2007 - 03:51 pm / quote |
Infernus ov Kul
: Lamb of God and Killswitch Engage are metalcore, sherlock. Not metal. Metal is In Flames, At The Gates, and outstanding bands such as them.
How about all of you who are saying Killswitch Engage and Lamb of God are metal listen to some real metal instead of crappy false metalcore crap. POSTED: 06/23/2007 - 03:02 pm / quote |
Sixx_shredder
: Dude, this is sad... you are so full of yourself, and the guide is shit... I dunno if mine are gonne be much better, but at least I know I was a little more indepth... Mine are in review BTW, to anyone reading this.POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 08:23 pm / quote |
Metal101
: Seriously, did you even TRY to make a good lesson? This is just a piece of useless bullshit. I'm still shocked at the fact that YOU knew how to copy and paste the solo from "one".POSTED: 08/05/2007 - 01:21 am / quote |
MadZorm
: This is totally insulting to read. If you want to help people, then act like you really want to do so.
STFU, dumb shits go **** yourself ... !!!??!!!! WHo does he takes himself for?!?!?!!! Learn some fu****g respect!!
POSTED: 08/07/2007 - 03:16 am / quote |
Mihyaeru
: Kappa :
Boy, you're gonna get flamed big time for categorizing Lamb Of God and Killswitch Engage (though Killswitch Engage are cool) Metal. |
Seriosuly who gives a crap metalcore or metal still bloody metal either way POSTED: 09/11/2007 - 05:35 pm / quote |
lp in dc
: Metal101 :
Seriously, did you even TRY to make a good lesson? This is just a piece of useless bullshit. I'm still shocked at the fact that YOU knew how to copy and paste the solo from "one".
I agree this is ****ed up! POSTED: 10/22/2007 - 04:36 pm / quote |
joshgiesbrecht
: Ok.. For ****ing sakes. Lamb of God is NOT metalcore.. Their not even close.. They are pretty much technical metal with growling lyrics.. Not not ****ing metalcore sounds though..You guys need to learn the difference.. Type in "metalcore" as a genre on a site/iTunes.. Then sample your results.. You'll get nothing sounding like Lamb of GodPOSTED: 10/25/2007 - 01:08 pm / quote |
joshgiesbrecht
: Ok.. For ****ing sakes. Lamb of God is NOT metalcore.. Their not even close.. They are pretty much technical metal with growling lyrics.. Not not ****ing metalcore sounds though..You guys need to learn the difference.. Type in "metalcore" as a genre on a site/iTunes.. Then sample your results.. You'll get nothing sounding like Lamb of GodPOSTED: 10/25/2007 - 01:09 pm / quote |
hondoII
: man as an up and coming guitarist that didnt teach me a damn thing other than how to copy some one elses shit...POSTED: 12/18/2007 - 08:02 pm / quote |
parkourman1
: plz. Just because some people may think lamb of god sucks doesnt mean its not metal. Some of you people have you're metal genre's straightened out. Other have no idea wtf their talkin about.
PLEASE READ THIS::::
Beneath the actualy genre(thrash, hardcore, heavy, death, orchestral... etc.) There are also countries of origin. For instance BFMV is UK and thats the sound of metal you get commonly in the UK.(granted, BFMV sound a lot different from other UK metal but it has teh same core)
Lamb Of God is METAL/HARD ROCK, PEOPLE! They are from the US and in the US you get a deeper-(for lack of better word)bassier sound.
In Northern Europe Arch Enemy is the sound you get in metal. Their metal is more like speed metal.
Sorry if you dont understand this concept or i gave bad band examples, you think.
The long and the short is, THE METAL GENRE SOUND DIFFERS FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY WHETHER OR NOT IF THEY ALL SPEAK ENGLISH OR SWISS OR EVEN ETHIOPIAN.(I would like to hear an ethiopian metal band actually)POSTED: 12/26/2007 - 08:15 pm / quote |
negativcreep187
: why the f**k are you all stressing about who said what or what band is what specific genre of music?
you guys dont need to be attacking each other its a f**kin waste of your time
I joined this f**kin website so I could learn from other guitarists without it becoming a f**kin argument!
we should all be able to justt get along cus we have at least 2 things in common:
1. we play guitar
2. we have good, but sometimes very different tastes in music
and I got another question, is there anyone who lives on the southside of Chicago that has a thrash metal band that will be playing any small shows?
I live in a boring a*s s**t town, and I wana get into even more musicPOSTED: 12/27/2007 - 05:05 pm / quote |
Ze_Metal
: Lighten up guys, Yes...Lamb of God is metalcore. Along with Killswitch but does it matter?
I bet 3/4 of you guys here couldn't the the difference between the many subgenres metal has. POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 08:09 pm / quote |
drajl666
: This lesson makes no sense. What exactly are you trying to teach? Your best bet is to stick to tabs and not lessons.POSTED: 05/14/2008 - 03:02 pm / quote |
siliconavatar0
: Not gonna lie, you just made today's metal seem even more generic than it already sounds. 2 thumbs WAY DOWN. metal is SO MUCH MORE than just fancy tapping and pinch harmonics, and the solo from "one"? Really now? Kerry King holds more ABSOLUTE F*CKING EVIL GUITAR PROWESS in one pinky than Kirk Hammett has in his entire body. Oh yeah. I just went there.
But off topic, bad article overall, didn't cover much, and I really get the sense that whoever's teaching it hates me before they even sit at their computer and start typing. POSTED: 05/21/2008 - 03:43 pm / quote |
Tango616
: dude...LOG IS metal not metalcore, and its called trash and or heavy metal...POSTED: 06/23/2008 - 05:26 pm / quote |
metal7861
: I know he did not just say Killswitch Engage wasnt strong in guitar abilities...I will kill this ****POSTED: 07/22/2008 - 11:57 am / quote |
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