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author: fleh date: 09/16/2008 category: scales
rating: 7.2 / votes: 13 
POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 10:46 am
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LTD-live :
Great lesson!
I've read a million books on this and it's always been confusing. The way you break it down is very easy to understand. THe problem with alot of books written by "experts" is that they assume you know certain things. Thanks for this!

POSTED: 09/16/2008 - 08:27 pm / quote |
titopuente :
Modes are not patterns, boxes, or positions. Just because you're playing from a certain pattern doesn't mean you're playing a specific mode. The backing harmony is what determines which mode you're playing. Starting and ending note also have little to do with the idea of modes; just because you're playing in D mixolydian doesn't mean that every melody you play has to start and/or end on a D note. Sorry, but there's not much in this article that is applicable if you want to play modal music.
POSTED: 09/17/2008 - 08:27 am / quote |
eitanash1 :
great lesson ,
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 10:46 am / quote |
.:Darkness:. :
Exactly.

For instance, you can play the Ionian shape starting on D, but have E as your root note. It would then be E dorian. Even though the shape looks like Ionian, doesnt mean that thats what mode you're playing in.

POSTED: 11/05/2008 - 11:01 pm / quote |
fleh :
titopuente wrote:

Modes are not patterns, boxes, or positions. Just because you're playing from a certain pattern doesn't mean you're playing a specific mode. The backing harmony is what determines which mode you're playing. Starting and ending note also have little to do with the idea of modes; just because you're playing in D mixolydian doesn't mean that every melody you play has to start and/or end on a D note. Sorry, but there's not much in this article that is applicable if you want to play modal music.


thats all true but this lesson was aimed at beginners. i know what your saying but i doubt if a beginner could, i was simpy trying to clear up some confusion from all modal lessons being too complex.

POSTED: 11/22/2008 - 07:39 pm / quote |
huevos :
titopuente wrote:

Modes are not patterns, boxes, or positions. Just because you're playing from a certain pattern doesn't mean you're playing a specific mode. The backing harmony is what determines which mode you're playing. Starting and ending note also have little to do with the idea of modes; just because you're playing in D mixolydian doesn't mean that every melody you play has to start and/or end on a D note. Sorry, but there's not much in this article that is applicable if you want to play modal music.


That's what I was thinking. When I first started learning about music theory, there was a similar article to this that got me kinda confused.

That bolded part is also something that tripped me up in the beginning.
It truely is the harmonic context and not how your melody starts and ends that determines what scale or mode your playing.

POSTED: 11/30/2008 - 06:57 pm / quote |
fleh :
when i was talking about starting points i didnt mean in to melody you play, i meant in the mode- as in the lowest note. so each note on the low E within a scale would be a 'starting point' for a differnt mode.


POSTED: 12/02/2008 - 06:04 pm / quote |
raw meat :
e|---|---|-7-|-8-|---|10-|
B|---|---|-7-|-8-|---|10-|
G|-5 -|---|-7-|---|-9-|---|
D|-5-|---|-7-|---|-9-|---|
A|-5-|-- -|-7-|---|-9-|---|
E|-5-|---|-7-|-8-|---|---|

honestly. i still dont get all of this stuff.

POSTED: 01/30/2009 - 02:05 am / quote |
raw meat :
e|---|---|-7-|-8-|---|10-|
B|---|---|-7-|-8-|---|10-|
G|-5 -|---|-7-|---|-9-|---|
D|-5-|---|-7-|---|-9-|---|
A|-5-|-- -|-7-|---|-9-|---|
E|-5-|---|-7-|-8-|---|---|

honestly. i still dont get all of this stuff.

POSTED: 01/30/2009 - 02:07 am / quote |
raw meat :
help me im confused!!!
POSTED: 01/30/2009 - 02:09 am / quote |
raw meat :
i don't get it!
POSTED: 01/30/2009 - 02:16 am / quote |
fafahrd :
titopuente, can you explain? the harmonic context that makes the mode work? for a near beginner?
POSTED: 03/07/2009 - 12:03 am / quote |
tru23nyte :
raw meat wrote:

e|---|---|-7-|-8-|---|10-|
B|---|---|-7-|-8-|---| 10-|
G|-5 -|---|-7-|---|-9-|---|
D|-5-|---|-7-|---|-9-|---|
A|-5-|-- -|-7-|---|-9-|---|
E|-5-|---|-7-|-8-|---|---|

honestly. i still dont get all of this stuff.


its a tab

POSTED: 03/15/2009 - 09:40 pm / quote |
qoody :
Can anyone clearly explain what modes are for? How are they used? Obviously not in a way of letting you stretch your major scale all across the fretboard...
POSTED: 04/05/2009 - 07:02 am / quote |
jordan99 :
Sick lesson! I FINALLY understand modes and how they fit together. Thanks a lot!
POSTED: 04/07/2009 - 08:32 pm / quote |
demonized2k7 :
but how do you use it when the chord changes??? like from g to a??? shud you change scale from gmaj to amaj??? or shud you still play the g ionian since the note A is still located in the gmaj scale???

this is the stuff i dont get...

POSTED: 07/07/2009 - 08:07 am / quote |
steve_muse :
You would still play G Ionian because it would be in key.
POSTED: 08/20/2009 - 05:18 pm / quote |
Niskat :
just to check if i got it:
when I'm soloing over a C chord (which is in fact C Ionian) and I want the solo to be in a Phrygian mode then I should use the pattern of B Phrygian cause its the 3rd mode of the C scale, right?

And second question: if the chord changes from C to D then i have to play F Phrygian (cause it's the 3rd mode of the D Ionian)?

some help would be awesome

POSTED: 08/30/2009 - 08:55 pm / quote |
Niskat :
oh sorry... i mean soloing over a "G chord" etc.
And then changing from G to D...

POSTED: 08/31/2009 - 06:28 am / quote |
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