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The Boxes And How They Fit Together

author: The4thHorsemen date: 10/13/2008 category: scales
rating: 8.6 / votes: 18 
POSTED: 10/13/2008 - 10:19 am
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Epiphone'sRock :
cool lesson, not as in depth as i would have liked bt gd non the less (Y)

POSTED: 10/13/2008 - 12:00 pm / quote |
Sicking :
I gave your lesson a good look and it fairly decent butat the last part in soloing tips you actually mentioned one of my problems lol I know the paterns of the scales but when I try to solo on my own I end up saying it doesnt sound right... even tho I randomly hit the correct notes. It would be awesome if you make a lesson in depth on how to create melodical solo.
Cheers

POSTED: 10/27/2008 - 01:30 pm / quote |
The4thHorsemen :
Well Sicking, that's one of the hardest things to explain, and I'm still not awesome at it imo. If anyone else has wrote an article or lesson on that subject I would like to read it for myself to see how other people look at that, because in that aspect I learned it with almost entirely no help, just me and the guitar spending hours together.
POSTED: 11/03/2008 - 06:09 pm / quote |
fagelamusgtr :
This helped a lot. I already knew the theory, but it probably helped some others.
The box's helped me a lot. I may have known the theory, but I never completely understood the boxs. Thanks. 9/10

POSTED: 11/08/2008 - 10:55 pm / quote |
nautisch :
very nice, one question though.

box 2, major
2nd position
|---|-2-|---|-3-|-4-|
|---|-6-|---|-7-|-R-|
|-3-|-4-|--- |-5-|---|
|-7-|-R-|---|-2-|---|
|---|-5-|---|-6-|---|
|-- -|-2-|---|-3-|-4-|

how do you guys play the G and D strings, do you move the whole hand down the neck or do you play by playing two notes with the pinky?
(i play the E,B,A,E strings with the index on the "2nd fret" )

POSTED: 01/01/2009 - 10:41 am / quote |
wal69 :
aren't these just modes. I found learning your modes up the neck is the best way to shred and starting in different modes in the same key can give it such a different flavour.
POSTED: 02/06/2009 - 07:51 pm / quote |
wal69 :
Aren't these just modes. I find learning all your modes and linking them all together is the best way to shred the neck. Starting in a different mode in the same key can give it such a different flavour
POSTED: 02/06/2009 - 07:53 pm / quote |
yaaarp :
Great lesson, very helpful but what about the other positions? Aren't there 7 modes not 5?
POSTED: 02/20/2009 - 04:24 pm / quote |
The4thHorsemen :
this is not a lesson on modes, this has nothing to do with modes.

modes are defined by the tonality, it has nothing to do with which note you start on or anything like that. it's the underlying chord progression coupled with the melody that defines the mode.

POSTED: 03/30/2009 - 05:03 am / quote |
oneblackened :
Pretty good, but a minor scale doesn't HAVE to have a b6 or a b7. Melodic minor is R 9 b3 4 5 6 7. What makes up a minor is the flattened third.
POSTED: 06/09/2009 - 06:34 pm / quote |
The4thHorsemen :
well, yea, but I didn't want to include those in this lesson. I just wanted to keep it basic. and if you know the minor scale well enough you can just alter the pattern a little if you've learned the intervals right *shrug*
POSTED: 08/12/2009 - 04:41 am / quote |
soulflyV :
Honestly, in the most basic of good melodic sounding solos is playing your licks and whatever and always returning to the 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6 in your major scale. Think of notes as foods.

You want the main portion of your meal to consist of the major pentatonic (1,2,3,5,6) and the garnish is the 4th and 7th. I guarantee to you that if you play the pentatonic, returning to the 1, 3, 5 at the end of your phrase/lick and only use the 4th and 7th sparingly, you will create a great melodic improv solo.

Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjgfpgrPyEw

Then play A C A C A C D (bend the D to an E) A C A C A C D B (1/4 bend to C and release back to B) A G.

(You should play this around the 13/14 fret area on the E,B and G strings)

This little phrase that you played revolves around the 1 (C), 2 (D), 6(A) notes in the Cmaj scale. The garnish is the 7th (B). For basic, good-sounding improv solos this is all you need to do.

Oh and only bend the 2nd (to the 3rd) and 5th (to the 6th) notes of the major scale, and SOMETIMES the 7th to the 1st/8th note.

POSTED: 09/03/2009 - 07:42 am / quote |
soulflyV :
Seeing as The4thHorsemen has explained how the boxes fit together you should be able to find any note you want on the neck and use the basic improv solo technique I just explained to play basic but sweet sounding melodic solos.

Just remember everything must be done in moderation.

POSTED: 09/03/2009 - 07:46 am / quote |
Explicit User :
im melting my own face off
POSTED: 11/16/2009 - 11:28 pm / quote |
JudgeDrey :
Very cool theory. I've always been a big fan of the box method and I thought it was interesting that you figured it out on your own. That's how I came to figure this out also. I had way too much time on my hands a few years ago and I just started looking for other places on the neck that I could apply this "box" that a friend had showed me a long time ago. Next thing I knew I had covered the whole neck and I had taught myself to move it around the neck to match what key I wanted to play in. It blew my mind how simple it was after I understood it. I ended up putting it all together a little differently but basically ended up with the same result you show in this lesson. I gave this a 10. I thinks every rock guitarist could benefit from this. Awesome.
POSTED: 12/07/2009 - 12:58 am / quote |
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