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My Personal Philosophy For Writing Lyrics And Songs

author: Prisoner5 date: 04/16/2009 category: songwriting & lyrics
rating: 7.6 / votes: 16 
POSTED: 04/16/2009 - 07:11 am
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tom.b :
Interesting... I always like to hear how others do the writing process.
POSTED: 04/16/2009 - 10:37 am / quote |
Lotsagrapes :
Cool story bro.
POSTED: 04/17/2009 - 05:14 am / quote |
silly6-string :
has some nice ideas!!
POSTED: 04/20/2009 - 01:05 pm / quote |
reptile-thing18 :
helpful this why i like being a drummer/guitarist/vocalist... lol i get bored. thx
POSTED: 04/20/2009 - 10:06 pm / quote |
HannibalX :
+1 to points 5 & 7
POSTED: 04/21/2009 - 06:48 am / quote |
luke-kelly-777 :
i had to post a comment saying i disagree with your statment of 'most lyrics these days suck' but i'll keep reading.
POSTED: 04/24/2009 - 03:26 pm / quote |
luke-kelly-777 :
ok another problem, lyrics before music isn't wrong or impropper. I do both and get along fine, I ask the singer what kinda feel and tone there going for after reading the song and we end up with a song we all enjoy rather than a song that the singer is secretly dissatisfied with the music. I shall yet again, continue reading.
POSTED: 04/24/2009 - 03:33 pm / quote |
luke-kelly-777 :
overall i'm not happy with your lesson. I would refuse to rate it but it is unacceptable for it to keep its 9.2 rating as it is misleading to people. I find myself in a position where I must save other peoples time from this clap trap nonsense. I bid you good day. EXPECT YOUR RATING TO GO DOWN.
POSTED: 04/24/2009 - 03:38 pm / quote |
JamageControl :
Hey mate. I'm an acoustic guitarist/vocalist and you've basically just organised the process I took when I started writing my own stuff... so kudos! I get what you mean about writing music to lyrics, it can be more awkward, but sometimes it does still work out so don't think you have to throw away the golden lyrics you've come up with if you've stuffed the order up. A lot of lyrics do suck these days. But hey if you're interested, check out some Josh Pyke or Ben Gibbard, might even out the score a little bit
POSTED: 04/25/2009 - 01:23 pm / quote |
Monkey-Turtle :
2.1 is very hard to do without feeling stupid, especially if you know the song well. 2.2 is helpful. I'm the vocalist in my band, and when I'm singing along with a song on my iPod I quite often sing the backing vocals instead of the lead.

5: I've been writing songs since I was 13, and after a few times of writing lyrics and not being able to come up with the right chords to fit the tune, I switched to chords before lyrics, which has suited me perfectly. Unless, of course, you stick to a simple 4/4 and meld the lyrics to the song later.

Another thing I've found helpful is to write down random chords and then modify them (eg make it a sharp/flat/7th/minor) so they sound good. It keeps you away from generic sequences, although you're right, almost everything has been done before.

Kudos, very helpful! (luke-kelly-777 must have been having a very bad day)

POSTED: 04/27/2009 - 04:51 am / quote |
Prisoner5 :
Thanks all for your comments and ratings.
luke-kelly-777: Im not saying never do that, I am simply stating that this is what I found easier and generally better. I wrote 3 sets of lyrics and we tried to write music to them for 3 months and were completely unable to find something that worked well.
And seriously, look at popular rock bands for the sucky lyrics:
"Love is a four letter word and never spoken here."
"His head was found in a driving wheel, but his body never was found."
"We grow into the number six hundred sixty six"
"Generals gather in their masses, just like witches at black masses."
"Sometimes the same is different, but mostly it's the same"
I can go on and on. We don't listen to what is said, we listen to what is heard, if that makes any sense.

POSTED: 05/01/2009 - 08:05 am / quote |
synrocker :
hahah good one..
but i disagree with a7x thing..
they let their bassist play a bridge..
in few of their b-side songs..
yea a band called this is not a game of whot the **** are you is a good example..
their guitar played the same way their vocalist sings..
one last dance is the title of the sng..

POSTED: 05/07/2009 - 11:22 am / quote |
christian1894 :
really helpful
POSTED: 05/09/2009 - 11:22 pm / quote |
Aspokia :
Thank you for your insight on this process, as any true help counts.
POSTED: 06/02/2009 - 11:06 pm / quote |
Mick92 :
this was really helpful. I had to add that for example Ramones didn't make intelligent lyrics but their lyrics were very funny
POSTED: 06/05/2009 - 09:18 am / quote |
Prisoner5 :
Haha, i had forgotten abut punk (and Ramones specifically)...yea...their lyrics are...how can I put this tactfully...lacking in intelligent and skillfully assembled lyrics...
POSTED: 06/06/2009 - 12:19 pm / quote |
ultrasonic :
listen to some Queens of the Stone Age, and realize that your lyrics aren’t that bad, and just write.

Er Mate, are you sure, QOTSA are Quality, have you even read the lyrics?

POSTED: 06/08/2009 - 02:59 pm / quote |
Prisoner5 :
Of course. I like their music, but taken outside of the song, the lyrics arent that great...the best examply
"Sometimes the same is different, but mostly, it's the same"

POSTED: 06/09/2009 - 01:43 am / quote |
520EXIIIFP :
Haha Metallica's lyrics are not bad.. James is a genious, just look at Fade to black or (Welcome Home) Sanitarium.. or any other song for that matter ^^ my opinion though..
POSTED: 06/16/2009 - 01:41 pm / quote |
chipmunksurfer :
+1 to #6. sax/flute/prog instruments are best
POSTED: 07/09/2009 - 09:22 pm / quote |
freak_sho246 :
great article! it really helped a lot! Im not sure if you work with them at all, but if you could come up with a short lesson on writing good metaphors to evoke imagery that would be great. Im always frustrated with the fact that these songwriters like sam bean of iron and wine can come up with such amazing, deep and thought-provoking metaphors in their songs and i always wonder how they come up with them.
POSTED: 08/11/2009 - 12:21 am / quote |
Prisoner5 :
freak_sho, ill get on that when i have some free time.
520, you happened to pick the two best Metallica songs in my opinion and the possible exceptions to the rule, haha.

POSTED: 08/14/2009 - 01:37 pm / quote |
Prisoner5 :
oh, and in support of #5, since people had a problem with it, thats what Corey Taylor of Slipknot does, so...yea..I win
POSTED: 08/14/2009 - 01:38 pm / quote |
surbus :
Prisoner5 wrote:

freak_sho, ill get on that when i have some free time.
520, you happened to pick the two best Metallica songs in my opinion and the possible exceptions to the rule, haha.


nah, they have other well written songs, the Unforgiven for example

POSTED: 10/15/2009 - 04:54 pm / quote |
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