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Rhyming And Inspiration

author: Unregistered date: 10/07/2008 category: songwriting & lyrics
rating: 8.3 / votes: 99 
POSTED: 10/07/2008 - 08:55 am
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knights70 :
Wow! This has a lot of valuble information. I will try my best at using it and create the perfect song I have been looking for. Thanks!
POSTED: 10/14/2008 - 10:40 am / quote |
simonzwaan :
Decent
POSTED: 10/14/2008 - 07:52 pm / quote |
Sh_blink182 :
great, its pretty helpful to people like me, who are beggining to write songs. Thanks!
POSTED: 10/16/2008 - 06:16 pm / quote |
Ibanez_bass2011 :
This is great. It really helped me get back to basics.
POSTED: 10/17/2008 - 01:51 am / quote |
punk2k6 :
sweet!
POSTED: 10/18/2008 - 06:58 am / quote |
ShadesOfNight :
yeh...i just plain suck at writing innovative songs. i mean, usually il get a good first few lines across, then completey lose track of what im writing about and it turns crap.
mind you...i did find another useful tip for coming up with good lyrics.
listen to a song you dont know all the lyrics to off by heart, and maybe they arent being sung amazingly clearly...let your mind wander a bit and often you'll mishear lyrics as something that sounds good, but isnt a copy of what the song says

POSTED: 10/18/2008 - 12:46 pm / quote |
zip983 :
wat if ur writing death metal? lol jk
POSTED: 10/18/2008 - 08:38 pm / quote |
new_guitar :
then you write:
WAAAAARGGGGGHHHHH
hahahaha
great lesson!!!

POSTED: 10/21/2008 - 10:34 am / quote |
luv090909 :
if your writing death metal try including all the f's and b's in your dictionary so dopers can understand whats going on :S


thats the scene in my country atleast....



and yeah.. nice lesson keep it up

POSTED: 10/22/2008 - 10:59 am / quote |
kleps :
that was incredible!!!!
it helped a lot

POSTED: 10/23/2008 - 07:30 pm / quote |
artard8 :
That was pretty good
POSTED: 10/27/2008 - 06:17 pm / quote |
Mrasi :
good lesson, but where do you put the solos?
POSTED: 10/27/2008 - 08:49 pm / quote |
Parker4129 :
Reealy good less.
POSTED: 10/29/2008 - 02:17 pm / quote |
davegomes :
very useful man thx
POSTED: 11/06/2008 - 12:15 am / quote |
lucas_22 :
good stuff... i dont really have a problem song writing but your tips are exactly what i try when i song write. Great lesson
POSTED: 11/07/2008 - 05:48 pm / quote |
MachoNacho :
really good lesson im 12 years old and in 7th grade and i am trying to write lyrics for it. If any1 knows where to put the solo in the song plz contact me.
POSTED: 11/07/2008 - 10:58 pm / quote |
guitarp_11 :
@MacjoNacho -- the solo usually goes where the bridge is. "Bridge" can be intertwined with "Solo" or 'Instrumental Break".
Also, solos can be put almost anywhre. If you look at "That Smell" by Skynyrd, the solng start off with a small solo/fill. If you have al the words on top of a melody, experiment.

POSTED: 11/09/2008 - 03:41 pm / quote |
thegreatlandeno :
kick ass lesson..
POSTED: 11/12/2008 - 05:38 pm / quote |
Shredhed_777 :
Great lesson!!!! I happen to write death metal music, and I can come up with good riffs, but I'm stuck at putting them together.

BTW not all death metal bands use the ARRRRRGH technique (i.e. Possessed, Opeth(ie damnation album) )
but it still kicks ass.....
\m/\m/

POSTED: 11/12/2008 - 11:35 pm / quote |
Shredhed_777 :
To MachoNacho:

Put a solo wherever you want. Trapped under Ice by Metallica starts off with like 3 I think....
Your solo could even copy the lyrical melody in between vocal pauses (I've done this ad libing live and the audience dug it)

POSTED: 11/12/2008 - 11:38 pm / quote |
RockinMan11 :
thanks alot tht really helped me
POSTED: 11/14/2008 - 09:31 pm / quote |
ChadTassles :
before before i read this. i would just write whenever something popped in my head which was about every 3 months but hopefully i can write more now that i have somethings that i can write about. thanks.
POSTED: 11/15/2008 - 08:00 pm / quote |
spikedemon! :
in my experience, the best ideas are the original ones, and you can't just command yourself to think of them, they hit you and you need to write them down asap!
POSTED: 11/15/2008 - 10:40 pm / quote |
tayhay8 :
alright
POSTED: 11/18/2008 - 11:25 pm / quote |
Overkilled :
^( '.' )^ ^( '.' )^
POSTED: 11/19/2008 - 03:13 am / quote |
Paisa :
great lesson. i do the cell phone thing too lol
POSTED: 11/20/2008 - 11:00 pm / quote |
Ben White :
Thanks for great inspiration
POSTED: 11/26/2008 - 09:33 am / quote |
train wreck :
nice lesson!
POSTED: 11/29/2008 - 11:40 am / quote |
NDStar94 :
I find lessons on song writing quite useless most of the time; it's something that you really can't teach. You, however, did provide useful tips on how to get started and follow through. Excellent job.
POSTED: 11/30/2008 - 03:13 pm / quote |
UnDeRoAtH677 :
this helped a lot those where good ideas

POSTED: 12/01/2008 - 05:47 pm / quote |
Avenged_Matt :
Hey man thanks alot for posting, Ive been writing a couple years now and still get pissed when I cant think, Thanks for some tips.. Another tip for you guys.. When trying to write. Just write down the random words that come to mind, Because thats how you feel. And then incorporate them in to the song, It works for me.

Thanks again man.

POSTED: 12/04/2008 - 05:59 pm / quote |
Caleb of Troy :
I totally agree with you. I sometimes find myself in a funk and unable to put pen to paper, but I have recently found a trick that works for me. What I do is just make sure I'm distracted when I write. This trick totally works if you are talking on the phone or sitting in school or something. There is always something going on so it would be very difficult to draw a blank. You get to hear the way other people talk and be exposed to words you would not otherwise hear or think of. I don't know if this would work for anyone else, but if it does, please let me know. Great lesson by the way. I'm glad to have read it.
POSTED: 12/11/2008 - 08:52 pm / quote |
rawrstrangepork :
Great lesson.
Thanks a lot!

BTW!

Is it necessary to rhyme?

POSTED: 12/12/2008 - 01:03 pm / quote |
Guitarmaster94 :
Great lesson.
Thanks a lot!

BTW!

Is it necessary to rhyme?


It all depends on what you want to do. You rhyme or you could free-verse

POSTED: 12/14/2008 - 04:20 pm / quote |
courtkid1012 :
The best way to get good at making songs is to listen to them. If you listen to bands like (I think) the Beatles a lot then you'll get good at it over time. Almost any band you can listen to, but the beatles are just one good example.

Great lesson though.

POSTED: 12/17/2008 - 08:50 pm / quote |
sancho_nchaos :
Some of this info is kind of telling people to be a bit cliche`, no offense. But the best way to go about writing a song is to keep a notebook and pencil with you wherever you go. I've written the best songs because of a story I've heard, a line someone has said, or an event you or your friend has been through. Be creative, write anything that comes to mind and even if its unfinished, save it and go back to it when you stumble across it again, say 6 months down the road. Never expect to write a song in one sitting. Take time, develop.
POSTED: 12/18/2008 - 04:50 am / quote |
theotherguy7145 :
rawrstrangepork wrote:

Great lesson.
Thanks a lot!

BTW!

Is it necessary to rhyme?


So long as it sounds alright to you, then no!

POSTED: 12/23/2008 - 12:14 pm / quote |
GreenDevil :
Great lesson man! 4 stars
POSTED: 12/23/2008 - 02:43 pm / quote |
AngelWolf :
this is already what i do, for the most part. apart from the alphabet bit. but i could never explain exactly how i could write the songs to my mate whos gunna sing. but you've explained it. thanks. also.. you've given me the alphabet idea which ill use when i get stuck. cheers. also you reminded me to carry a pen and and a bit of paper with me.. you know for the friend thing that you think "thats a good theme/line for a song." coz i usually forget it before i get home to creat it.. and its usually the best ideas i have.. so thanks's allrounds
POSTED: 12/26/2008 - 05:10 pm / quote |
revelation316 :
this is a great lesson it will help me alot
POSTED: 12/30/2008 - 07:48 pm / quote |
funky3000 :
I've spent a lot time finding articles about songwriting that will really help me write something without that doesn't need music... this article help me found a way to do that. Great lesson.
POSTED: 01/04/2009 - 08:47 pm / quote |
fretboardfreak :
thanks i gave this too our leadsinger and he made it work now how do you u write a guitar solo intro outro and so on
POSTED: 01/08/2009 - 06:42 pm / quote |
robinsonlimusic :
I do the same thing too =))
writing in text message

POSTED: 01/10/2009 - 09:42 am / quote |
NagorRoberts :
Dude this helps, although not every line has to rhyme. also rhyming can depend on how they're going to be sung. sometimes it's possible to rhyme really strange words. my problem is i always end up writing songs that sound like trivium. haha. help. lol
POSTED: 01/13/2009 - 08:01 am / quote |
Guitara_96 :
Wow. Awsome. Thanks. I really needed that
POSTED: 01/14/2009 - 07:38 pm / quote |
EldonsName24 :
why are guitarists comin' here to ask where a solo goes, this a lesson about songwriting, decide where YOur "OWN" solos go, it's really up to You guys
POSTED: 01/15/2009 - 12:23 am / quote |
SHFJdannymac :
nice, I am a decent songwriter and use some of these tactics already but I must say just reading this makes me want to go back to some of my songs that I have unfinished do to writers block and push onward.
POSTED: 01/22/2009 - 10:31 am / quote |
Alex Cornel G. :
nice... but i already knew all this stuff
POSTED: 01/23/2009 - 02:28 pm / quote |
cricketgalco :
I feel the inspiration is most important~ The rhyme, well I don't agree. However if one really wants to rhyme their words they can consider doing that a little bit here and there.I think your seuggestions were good~
POSTED: 01/23/2009 - 11:00 pm / quote |
a.squizzle :
The song Stolen is about California NOT about a new boyfriend/girlfriend.
POSTED: 01/26/2009 - 06:25 pm / quote |
Death Hamster :
the lesson seemed a bit obvious to me
nothing really useful
but thats just me

POSTED: 01/27/2009 - 05:08 pm / quote |
sinister2491 :
what if your like me? i simply write a poem or series of poems with the same rhyme scheme then take the best lines and slam them together.
POSTED: 02/04/2009 - 11:51 am / quote |
shaymack37 :
I've also found that people love lyrics that they can relate to, especially lyrics about a strong negative/positive event that took place in their lives. But instead of writing in the first person, like, 'My mom was a *****, and my father was dead', use the third person perspective, 'Her mom was a ***** and her father was dead'. Then you sound more like you're telling a story instead of sounding like a whiner. I think people get off on songs in the story-like format.
'Her mom was a *****, and her father was dead,
throughout her hometown, the slander was spread.'

POSTED: 02/09/2009 - 02:59 pm / quote |
vincymon :
Writing songs. I hope I can do that some day. Cuz in the mean time, I'm just a guitarist.
POSTED: 02/12/2009 - 05:48 am / quote |
Axeman20 :
This lesson is now bookmarked.

Thanks for taking the time to write it.

POSTED: 02/12/2009 - 10:14 pm / quote |
KeeSe :
Not a great article, but not bad either really. There are better ones out there..
POSTED: 02/24/2009 - 09:43 am / quote |
Stephen-182 :
This is a really good insight into writing songs.
I will definitely use this.

POSTED: 03/01/2009 - 10:05 am / quote |
LilM-experiment :
Mrasi wrote:

good lesson, but where do you put the solos?


the way i lay out my songs in general is:

Intro
Chorus
Verse
Chorus 2
Solo
Verse, a sort of chorus where i take part of the chorus and make the rest different, or outro depending on wut i'm in the mood for

XD hope that helped, i just tend to like it after my 2nd chorus

POSTED: 03/02/2009 - 06:09 pm / quote |
Prisoner5 :
Not bad, but very very basic. I realize that was probably the intention, but you are turning people onto the same stuff everyone else has been writing...ah well, i'll stop bitching. Just wanna say, if you wanna hear good rhyming, even if you hate rap, check out eminem. I used to hate him but I always respected his rhymes.
POSTED: 03/03/2009 - 01:32 pm / quote |
Jack Carael :
Decent lesson, but indeed pretty basic. The only thing I really must disagree with is the following statement:
"Stuff like "You're the apple of my eye" instead of "You are so fine" is much better because it's more creative.".
More creative =/= better. Personally, I think "You are so fine" is a much better sentence than "You're the apple of my eye".

POSTED: 03/04/2009 - 06:11 am / quote |
Je55 :
Yes, this article is helpful. But if you can't find yourself, your core feelings and emotions, your lyrics will be garbage.
POSTED: 03/04/2009 - 11:52 pm / quote |
Spiderpig :
good lesson but i lay my songs out like this.

intro
verse1
solo1
chorus
verse2
solo2
bridge
then i would play a final solo and end on a few power chords
chorus

POSTED: 03/15/2009 - 07:42 am / quote |
Diabolical93 :
thx man
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 12:23 pm / quote |
timguitarrocker :
Spiderpig wrote:

good lesson but i lay my songs out like this.

intro
verse1
solo1
chorus
verse2
solo2
bridge
then i would play a final solo and end on a few power chords
chorus


thats good, but a few to many solos for me.

POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 07:00 pm / quote |
piratekiddo :
That was pretty awesome but I'm trying to write a song about like the good ole' days setting so if anyone has any song names, please post them.
POSTED: 03/21/2009 - 11:53 pm / quote |
jamesonk666 :
**** this
youre saying that younger people cat rhyme as well?

POSTED: 03/22/2009 - 03:05 pm / quote |
musicfan616 :
This was extremely helpful. Thanks whoever-you-are lol
POSTED: 03/25/2009 - 04:26 am / quote |
LukeElliff :
Nice lesson but for structure I prefer

Intro
Verse 1
Chorus
Verse 2
Chorus
(Verse 3 --- only if i feel like it
Chorus)
Interlude/Solo
Chorus x2
Outro

POSTED: 03/26/2009 - 09:11 am / quote |
Chill. :
Very good information. Thanks, im good at writing but not brilliant at laying out thanks.
POSTED: 03/28/2009 - 08:36 am / quote |
bigdude007 :
cheers for that dude. good lesson
POSTED: 03/30/2009 - 11:14 pm / quote |
420ismybday :
thnx for the tips man they were helpful.
POSTED: 03/31/2009 - 12:45 pm / quote |
420ismybday :
Spiderpig wrote:

good lesson but i lay my songs out like this.

intro
verse1
solo1
chorus
verse2
solo2
bridge
then i would play a final solo and end on a few power chords
chorus


this look knida complicated but at the same time simple because the lyrics would be more and the solos would add rhytheme to the lyrics. I like that. nice man

POSTED: 03/31/2009 - 12:48 pm / quote |
loveofconverse :
wow, thanx for heaps of tips ill try to work on writing but i dont have "IT" as u say
POSTED: 04/02/2009 - 04:50 am / quote |
EnDZYm3 :
I've been writing for awhile now, and I found that I write better lyrics/poetry after an experience such as someone pissing me off, lusting after some girl in class, having a bad day etc.
And ALWAYS HAVE PAPER ON HAND, soemtimes you might randomly think of a good line, and then it slips you're mind because you never wrote it down.

POSTED: 04/04/2009 - 05:17 pm / quote |
WIREDTOTHEMOON :
the dude above me covers what i waz gonna say lizen 2 im- i love yall yall so radical
POSTED: 05/03/2009 - 03:35 pm / quote |
Biriboy :
great lesson!
POSTED: 06/08/2009 - 05:31 pm / quote |
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