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Writing Lyrics (Things To Consider)

author: benjmc date: 07/31/2003 category: songwriting & lyrics
rating: 9.4 / votes: 73 
POSTED: 07/31/2003 - 07:16 am
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 comments posted
awkggrocker :
cool tips man my bands gunna get a lyric bost
POSTED: 10/13/2003 - 11:18 pm / quote |
andeh :
great article.
POSTED: 11/16/2003 - 08:37 am / quote |
benjmc :
...some of you people seem to have issues. Hope you liked the article, (even those of you with nothin' useful to say except how much you love your penis)...
POSTED: 12/21/2003 - 05:26 pm / quote |
alkaline3nipple :
good forum
POSTED: 12/21/2003 - 10:00 pm / quote |
bennybeast1 :
not bad
POSTED: 01/11/2004 - 09:15 am / quote |
rage_725 :
Very well done. Alot of very good ideas and helpful hints. In my early stages of writing, I made some of the mistakes u talk about. I was being to emotional, and ppl said my lyrics were good, but they didnt connect. Ill have to keep these pointers in mind. Thanx alot!
POSTED: 01/15/2004 - 01:11 am / quote |
biddle :
first of all i'd like to comment on the negative comments. obviosly you people are too cool to raelly care about music. music is something that does change moods and alter the way we think, weather it be Death metal or drum and bass. secondly thanx for taking the time to explain your theory of song writing. very few people can write real good lyrics but at the end of the day if a song reacts with you then that is all that matters. nirvana for instance. kurt cobain was shite at writing lyrics IN MY OPINION. other people he reallt connected with. so weather you thing you can write or not try it anyway because there is always someone out there that can connect and feel them
peace out V
Biddle

POSTED: 01/22/2004 - 05:25 pm / quote |
Tenacious D :
the best way to write, is to get in the kind of mood for your song. ie/get pissed off to write a pissed off song.
POSTED: 01/28/2004 - 12:27 pm / quote |
lovemyMartin :
First off, you guys need to appreciate this lesson, cuz there's a lot of truth to it. Secondly, those that can't appreciate it, then you can stick it in your ass. Finally, those faggots that like anal can take the same advice.
POSTED: 03/04/2004 - 08:09 pm / quote |
americanpig11 :
if you are a good writer you dont need people to teach you to do it. just sit down and write!
POSTED: 03/10/2004 - 10:27 am / quote |
Beavish :
i struggle to write songs so i hope this helps someone but i couldn't be bothered to read it, i don't have enough brain capacity
POSTED: 04/04/2004 - 01:51 pm / quote |
GuitarAddict23 :
Nice Job
POSTED: 04/06/2004 - 02:24 am / quote |
Squally :
Awesome article! It definitely helps to improve one's songwriting skills!
POSTED: 04/10/2004 - 05:40 pm / quote |
red_isneyks12 :
thanks man! i enjoyed reading this. . thanks again and ill follow youre advices
plss pm me if u have time thanks again!

POSTED: 04/15/2004 - 01:17 pm / quote |
evaniscool314 :
that was an awesome article, nice job. Im definately gunna use all that you said.
POSTED: 04/18/2004 - 09:55 am / quote |
scarz_uy :
thanks for the article! it definitely helps!
POSTED: 06/07/2004 - 11:19 pm / quote |
muted_silence :
Great article, really helpful.
POSTED: 06/13/2004 - 01:07 am / quote |
_TheBassist01_ :
5 stars. *claps* thanks man
POSTED: 06/13/2004 - 11:19 pm / quote |
Villsen :
Nice lesson, it inspired me to write my first lyric, even though it was a really sucky one^^
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 06:32 am / quote |
Rock 101 :
Nice job.
POSTED: 06/23/2004 - 08:50 pm / quote |
stm :
It was too long for me to read. It might have sucked.
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 01:02 pm / quote |
pleasentlyplump :
same here
POSTED: 07/05/2004 - 02:28 pm / quote |
jarek_jade :
Well at least it's nice to see that not everyone on this post is hating. Not that it really matters, but it's nice to be able to come here and actually read what you want to and not have to sift through all tha shite... I say good job, man.
POSTED: 07/14/2004 - 04:52 pm / quote |
Another_Idiot :
This guy says alot of helpful shit listen to him oh and if ur in a punk band Plzz i repeat plzz dont write songs only about break-ups or about how u love some bitch like over and over again, That is ruining punk thats y i hate EMO and lots of pop punk bands, they keep writing songs bout love and break-ups over and over to the point im gonna shoot myself, its ok to write a FEW songs about love and break-ups its not cool to write songs ONLY about break-up or love there are a LOT of cool shit to write about like anything fun(SEX DRUGS N ROCKNROLL!!!) it can be about a party about losing ur virginity the first time u got high about being drunk and havin a good old time about a fight about a roadtrip about bein a stoner about doin drugs doin a crime or just having a good time or about political stuff u know
OH and also FUCK U UG STRANGER hey dipshit u flooded the comments page with abunch of ***in dumbass stupid annoying comments butt***er. is Anybody here gay? i know this one fag called UG stranger and he likes cock

POSTED: 08/13/2004 - 07:37 pm / quote |
Another_Idiot :
HEY dudes this is a good idea id use when writing a song so that u write a song ezily come up with a idea or memomory or experience and write it at the top of the of the paper and thats what ur song is gonna be about like say u write love then u start like writing ur lyrics about it if u wanna write about a kickass party write kickass party at the top then ur song is gonna be about how much it kicks ass and how it kicks ass and how much fun u and ur friends had if u wanna write how much ppl suck write PPL suck at the top and write urself a angry song if u wanna make a song about beaners then write beaners (or The Beaner Song) at the top and make up ur own catchy tune clap ur hands start singing it(make sure noone is within 50 ft of u when ur doing this process) and start pluckin at ur guitar until u make a cute annoying catchy tune.. ok whatever im gettting talking to much and am too lazy to erase all that *** it


-peace
Jon

POSTED: 08/16/2004 - 12:35 am / quote |
DeAdGiRlSbOyS :
Couldnt be bothered to read it all cos its too long but seemed ok. But surely if ur just writing a song, u should just sit down and just write away. Forget bout if it rhymes, or if it flows, or adding metaphors, or adding cool words or big words. Just sit down write the song, doesnt matter how many verses its got. and when ur writing it have the tune in ur head, obviously not every lead guitar solo, but the basic piano or guitar tune. play that in ur head and just write what u hear urself singing in ur head to the music. screw all the methods ppl say u should use. jsut write. its as easy as that.
POSTED: 08/17/2004 - 05:26 am / quote |
guitar_guru_28 :
hey great article on lyrics
POSTED: 09/10/2004 - 06:50 am / quote |
JoeMacFadzen :
hey man great article. i come up with lyrics here and there and jot em down but i can never really come up with anything solid from them, but your article is really going to help, thanks man.
POSTED: 09/28/2004 - 11:31 pm / quote |
JoeMacFadzen :
Hey, i was wondering if anybody had anything helpful to suggest about playing guitar and singing at the same time, because that seems to be the one thing i have the most trouble with. Any help would be awesome. Thanks
POSTED: 09/28/2004 - 11:40 pm / quote |
GuitaristSimon :
Oh my gosh UG Stranger u like have a split personality or are there more than 1 person usin that account. Nice article keep up the good work!
POSTED: 12/02/2004 - 04:45 am / quote |
pkhorana :
this is great stuff
you even make me feel bad about my songs

POSTED: 12/27/2004 - 12:37 pm / quote |
pyrofreak :
awsum article man i am like totally inspired to go make sum songs now c ya
POSTED: 03/21/2005 - 04:27 pm / quote |
realriffraff :
so how do you convert some kick ass abstract poetry shit into a dope song? (if you say spoken word, so help me...)
POSTED: 05/12/2005 - 02:24 pm / quote |
cazzamia :
good article but i couldnt get to the end ... zzz..
POSTED: 05/20/2005 - 10:33 am / quote |
 
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spam deleted
POSTED: 06/21/2005 - 11:24 am / quote |
popwar_69 :
this article sucks
POSTED: 07/25/2005 - 09:17 pm / quote |
blink rock hard :
hey good article
POSTED: 11/07/2005 - 11:00 am / quote |
realriot :
this article is pretty good, i just think that its more of just a gift that some songwriters have, not something you can learn, but at least with this article theres hope for the rest of us....
POSTED: 11/08/2005 - 08:52 pm / quote |
iam2phat :
this articles pretty good. coming from the heart n shyt good job
POSTED: 12/04/2005 - 09:21 pm / quote |
trivial :
it's good and informational. but if you're going to write lyrics it comes from within.
POSTED: 12/05/2005 - 12:27 pm / quote |
musicmartyr :
great article. this is going onto my favorites.

I suck at writing lyrics. Well, not really, the content is pretty good but I get serious writer's block.

I know your article isn't really about writer's block but it helped.

thanks

POSTED: 12/22/2005 - 09:52 am / quote |
bass_4_life :
That was a pretty sweet article.It helped lots.
POSTED: 01/04/2006 - 09:06 am / quote |
Joey201 :
Writing a song.... yea.. its can be quite easy but trying to put good music to it thats hard.... just think of something that u like or hate, or maybe something happened to you... i.e a death in d family, a brake up, some one that said something 2 you that u didn't like etc..... i could go on... but i find it easy to go on things like that.... or just use everyday things..... have fun..
POSTED: 03/19/2006 - 03:37 pm / quote |
averyon :
Very Nice. Extraordinarily thoughtful. Well done.
POSTED: 04/25/2006 - 11:24 am / quote |
OjodeVida :
What a great article. I haven't written a song yet but this gives me some insight on how to do it.
POSTED: 05/07/2006 - 10:04 pm / quote |
shredder_01 :
yeah awesome stuff ^^ i was sitting trying to get a song going and i got stuck but reminding me about metaphors and stuff has helped, cheers dude!! im will dedicate this song to you! xD
POSTED: 05/21/2006 - 06:07 pm / quote |
iggy pop :
Just write down some thin and just write down whatever comes to your mind about that subject, thing etc
POSTED: 05/25/2006 - 12:21 pm / quote |
rock_god1023 :
nice article!
POSTED: 06/01/2006 - 02:49 pm / quote |
~*Evanescence*~ :
heyya nice article, very interesting. I am makking a song now and i seem to have all the words worked out (thanks to you) but I can't seem to get a good tune...
Rock on man!

POSTED: 07/05/2006 - 09:39 am / quote |
patmann3 :
nice lesson.:d
POSTED: 07/19/2006 - 04:14 pm / quote |
patmann3 :
Nice lesson not:d
POSTED: 07/19/2006 - 04:15 pm / quote |
patmann3 :
soz

POSTED: 07/19/2006 - 04:15 pm / quote |
shmunkmantra :
a lot of these articles really sound like my english teacher. lol.
POSTED: 07/23/2006 - 05:29 pm / quote |
thehelott13 :
excellent work. might i add that the quote "songwriting is like shaping the invisible" is a DaVinci quote
POSTED: 07/28/2006 - 09:20 pm / quote |
KnightValor :
Okay, nice, but I can't stress enough how easily "metaphorical" can become cheezy. If I wrote a song

And when the bomb went off
The angel's heart burned
from his tears and sweat
worked into the nearby soil
and the gorilla wept
for the beauty

I mean, that is actually better than alot of bands do... Anyway, I generally find that numbers, shapes, anything mathematical give better metaphors simply because its much harder for them to be cheesy.

46 & 2 and Lateralus are my two of my favorite songs lyrics wise, one of which is all about a damn spiral and the other is all about two numbers which mean something personal to maynard. It leaves people curious, and if you do it right they'll look it up and go "AWESOME!" The spiral remains a mystery, but 46 & 2 is about evolution - humans have 44 & 2 chromosones, the next step would be 46 & 2 - thus "46 & 2 ahead of me"

Whoah I really just unloaded there!

POSTED: 08/15/2006 - 11:19 pm / quote |
fretmaster01 :
cool... less rambling.. Lolz.. good article.
POSTED: 08/25/2006 - 03:33 pm / quote |
fretmaster01 :
DeAdGiRlSbOyS wrote:

Couldnt be bothered to read it all cos its too long but seemed ok. But surely if ur just writing a song, u should just sit down and just write away. Forget bout if it rhymes, or if it flows, or adding metaphors, or adding cool words or big words. Just sit down write the song, doesnt matter how many verses its got. and when ur writing it have the tune in ur head, obviously not every lead guitar solo, but the basic piano or guitar tune. play that in ur head and just write what u hear urself singing in ur head to the music. screw all the methods ppl say u should use. jsut write. its as easy as that.



yeah... this article, by the way as anyone would figure out, is for the ones who want some help and advices. Like Benj stated, find your own style... and that's an advice i believe you are following.. hehe.. peace...

POSTED: 08/28/2006 - 03:22 pm / quote |
Fibi :
Good article, useful... But if u wan't to write something you shouldn't follow any rules, just express yourself...
POSTED: 11/05/2006 - 02:26 pm / quote |
D3WB3RRY :
Great article I'd bote it a 20 but I cant.....=(
POSTED: 11/27/2006 - 07:49 pm / quote |
lastroseonstage :
awesome article

thankyou so much

youve been a great help

POSTED: 12/25/2006 - 07:56 am / quote |
Jesse Nouveau :
I laugh at those who read this whole lesson, and decide they're going to give it a shot. Then find it's too complex for them and go back to writing the Greenday esque stuff. They then come back and reply to this saying "j00r artical suhked!!11l0l."

Heh.

POSTED: 01/01/2007 - 03:13 pm / quote |
singer_johnny90 :
ive been writing for about 4 years now, and i find that time makes a good song. give yourself a few days to think about the mood of the song and for good similes/metaphors. throw a few extra lines in there and if you write tabs for it, too, then definitely mess around with those. the more you work on a song, the better it gets.

great article!
keep it up!

POSTED: 01/20/2007 - 11:29 pm / quote |
erlend95 :
Hey! Nice man!! My band is going to be the best now
POSTED: 02/10/2007 - 11:06 am / quote |
[NitrateOxide] :
Is it just me that finds it hard to write rhythms to lyrics?

Anything I write sounds like a slighty-emo, early-blink 182 rip off...

POSTED: 02/18/2007 - 06:04 pm / quote |
emt4life :
best lesson yet! i can't wait until you post another one, this was very helpful. and i would like to leave something for the smart asses out there. not everyone is as awesome as you.believe it or not you'll need help with something one day. remember that you didn't always know it all. i've been making music for most of my life and you never stop learning, if your not learning something new then i bet all of your songs sound the same. i wanna thank you benjamen for taking the time to share this. alot of people got from this.
POSTED: 03/10/2007 - 07:51 pm / quote |
ThE cAnDyMaN :
thanks a lot buddy. this is a great help.
POSTED: 05/09/2007 - 09:01 am / quote |
LitanY :
How about writing lyrics about writing lyrics :P

"these right words won't come to mind
ever since that day
open up, let you emotions speak
i've been let astray"
lol
great article

POSTED: 05/23/2007 - 06:57 am / quote |
blind_melon1995 :
heres some fresh lyrics

"i have sex/ i have sex with my ex/ my ex is not named rex/ so FUCK the cops/ FUCK with mops/ grow some cash crops/ and live freeeee"

POSTED: 06/24/2007 - 01:21 am / quote |
RiseAgainstMan :
dude not bad but here is some adivice
find a cliff somewhere and leap off
hehehe no just playin the article was really helpfull good job keep it up

POSTED: 07/26/2007 - 12:24 pm / quote |
Gwynnell :
And when the bomb went off
The angel's heart burned
from his tears and sweat
worked into the nearby soil
and the gorilla wept
for the beauty


Its really not better than most shit

POSTED: 08/08/2007 - 02:18 pm / quote |
me504 :
wow.....im so bored i read all these comments
POSTED: 08/11/2007 - 12:36 am / quote |
A.Jolz :
haha me too!
POSTED: 08/29/2007 - 04:22 am / quote |
michel19 :
this really has opend my eyes
thanks man

POSTED: 09/01/2007 - 08:56 am / quote |
dianEX :

POSTED: 10/24/2007 - 04:49 am / quote |
derickson690 :
thxlol thx a lot
POSTED: 11/29/2007 - 09:56 pm / quote |
Con 91 :
Yeah!
POSTED: 12/04/2007 - 05:43 pm / quote |
Con 91 :
Gwynnell wrote:


And when the bomb went off
The angel's heart burned
from his tears and sweat
worked into the nearby soil
and the gorilla wept
for the beauty


What?

POSTED: 12/04/2007 - 05:44 pm / quote |
Homeslice91 :
really helped me, cheers. lol at some peoples comments. i can see a few people are having a "time eh the month".
POSTED: 01/22/2008 - 02:45 pm / quote |
JimmySHK :
Very useful, thnaks a lot! =D
POSTED: 01/23/2008 - 05:53 pm / quote |
SmokinGoodfella :
too much SHlT, get to the point quicker next time but hole
POSTED: 02/04/2008 - 10:43 pm / quote |
Sk8rGur7 :
awesome. I can't write shit! this might help me tho. I think my brother should read this. hes a writer. honestly, I like his first song, his other stuff just doesn't sink in, ya know? seems like he thinks alot about it, then writes it without actually feeling it
POSTED: 02/24/2008 - 03:44 pm / quote |
jamesdjharrod :
nice lesson, and to agree with AnotherIdiot, STOP WRITING SONGS ABOUT BREAK-UPS. And if you have to, at least write them in an entertaining way. Motley Crue for example rarely write about depressin stuff, and theyre awesome
POSTED: 06/14/2008 - 07:04 am / quote |
lorrythebassguy :
Im not a natural lyricist but i found that helped alot and i enjoyed reading it
POSTED: 07/08/2008 - 02:37 pm / quote |
WhiteWTHStripes :
The best haikou ever,

Haikou's are easy,
but sometimes they don't make sense
Refrigerator

POSTED: 08/25/2008 - 07:04 am / quote |
rocking rebel :
thx this will realy help me and my band

POSTED: 08/26/2008 - 01:13 pm / quote |
SixStringMurder :
This has really helped me alot with the problems I've been having.

Thanks alot for writing this.

POSTED: 12/08/2008 - 10:25 pm / quote |
aceral1715 :
WhiteWTHStripes wrote:

The best haikou ever,

Haikou's are easy,
but sometimes they don't make sense
Refrigerator


love the refrigerator bit, really deep

I always compose an entire song on guitar pro before I usually start writing lyrics for them. It sort of gives be a guideline for the story and stuff, but that's just the way I do it. Sometimes our band gets the music together and our singer writes lyrics because shes pretty good at it as well.

POSTED: 01/04/2009 - 10:38 am / quote |
SHFJdannymac :
good article, looking for inspiration and motivation to finish some old songs that have yet to see the light of day. The gears are once again turning.
POSTED: 01/22/2009 - 11:04 am / quote |
Symph.Core :
thanks for the article very inspiring!

^^

POSTED: 02/13/2009 - 06:41 am / quote |
j_666_r :
ñ_ñ nyc 1... ñ_ñ'
POSTED: 03/10/2009 - 09:44 pm / quote |
megadeth45 :
Im a good writer when it comes to everything except song writing i can write a poem with no problem i can write a story or paper they're amazing but my song writing is horrible i feel im too worried about it sounding cool and not putting meaning into it but my usual vocabulary for writing tends to be quite extensive and hard for me to rhyme its like your average person trying to write like dream theater its really frickin hard. this helped me out alot man thanks 10/10
POSTED: 04/08/2009 - 07:57 pm / quote |
megadeth45 :
SmokinGoodfella wrote:

too much SHlT, get to the point quicker next time but hole
learn how to spell butthole b4 u try to insult someone with t

POSTED: 04/08/2009 - 07:59 pm / quote |
christian1894 :
really good man, this will help me a LOT thanks
POSTED: 06/11/2009 - 10:05 pm / quote |
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