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My favorite comment I read last night was "You guys may have grown old, but you haven't grown up." I'll stand by that statement, I think.
POSTED: 05/18/2012 08:07am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 08:07:16 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_2
What else is there to "negotiate" about?
POSTED: 05/18/2012 08:08am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 08:08:23 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_3 Drummer Vinny Appice is expected to replace Bill at their scheduled festival performances.

More Black Sabbath news:
Vinny Appice Not Drumming For Sabbath

Again, I love the irony of these completely conflicting statements, one after the other.
POSTED: 05/18/2012 08:36am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 08:36:43 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_4 POSTED: 05/18/2012 08:47am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 08:47:14 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_5 POSTED: 05/18/2012 09:04am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 09:04:27 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_6 jacobdubya wrote:

To everyone who has said that it's because of Bill Ward's health that Sabbath is doing this, shouldn't it be up to Bill Ward if he's in good enough health to play? Usually when a musician is not in good shape to keep playing music anymore, they will come out and say so. Bill seems pretty confident in his ability to keep playing and I seriously doubt he would be if he didn't think he could do it. So what's really going on?

IIRC, Sabbath members undergo routine physicals. If the doctors deemed that Bill's health wasn't up to snuff, then what can the rest of the band/management really say. That said, I still think it's a money issue.
POSTED: 05/18/2012 09:31am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 09:31:18 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_7 Despite keeping his drum crew on standby since mid-January, Bill was told by the band's lawyers that he could "come to the UK, play for free and see how the first show goes."
It might have something to do with money, but I think the rest of Sabbath believe Ward has lost his touch..
POSTED: 05/18/2012 10:46am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 10:46:54 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_8 POSTED: 05/18/2012 10:54am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 10:54:08 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_9 POSTED: 05/18/2012 11:11am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 11:11:29 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_10 POSTED: 05/18/2012 11:39am]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 11:39:48 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_11
Looking at the headline, wasn't that pretty much the problem from the beginning?
POSTED: 05/18/2012 02:11pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 14:11:49 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_12 POSTED: 05/18/2012 02:11pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 14:11:56 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_13 POSTED: 05/18/2012 02:48pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 14:48:49 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_14 POSTED: 05/18/2012 02:59pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 14:59:33 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_15 suikogarden wrote on 05/18/2012 - 02:59 pm / quote |
Wow, look at their new website design... It's like they've never had a drummer!

that's pretty pathetic... you can even see Ward's shoulder where they cropped him out of the photo. a$$holes...
POSTED: 05/18/2012 03:04pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 15:04:47 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_16 POSTED: 05/18/2012 04:48pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 16:48:44 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_17
^ Tacky journalism right there. An author shouldn't try to pass off his/her opinions as fact in a NEWS article. Besides, Vinny isn't playing the gigs. He said so himself.

The most likely replacement is Tommy Clufetos, considering he is playing the Ozzy & Friends gigs.
POSTED: 05/18/2012 06:22pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 18:22:23 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_18 POSTED: 05/18/2012 06:53pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 18:53:27 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_19 POSTED: 05/18/2012 07:05pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 19:05:39 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_20 bartman5 wrote:

I remember when the reunited in 2011, that I thought it was too good to be true. It was. I am still hoping for a sabbath album or at least another iommi solo album.

They still ARE recording the new album, just without Bill unfortunately.
POSTED: 05/18/2012 07:32pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 19:32:57 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_21 POSTED: 05/18/2012 11:56pm]]> Comments Fri, 18 May 2012 23:56:14 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_22 POSTED: 05/19/2012 12:43am]]> Comments Sat, 19 May 2012 00:43:14 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_23 POSTED: 05/19/2012 08:30am]]> Comments Sat, 19 May 2012 08:30:23 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_24 there are two sides to every story

Really? Can we know it at least?
POSTED: 05/19/2012 11:17am]]> Comments Sat, 19 May 2012 11:17:09 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_25 POSTED: 05/19/2012 02:14pm]]> Comments Sat, 19 May 2012 14:14:52 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_26 http://www.geezerbutler.com/2012/05/heav...

heres the other side perhaps?
POSTED: 05/19/2012 07:30pm]]> Comments Sat, 19 May 2012 19:30:19 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_27 peppersghost08 wrote:

http://www.geezerbutler.com/2012/05/heav...

heres the other side perhaps?
Still BS. I'd probably lose my cool too if nobody in my band mentioned about flying over to see their ailing bandmate, along with the exclusion of the writing process. No matter how much miscommunication plays a role here, that was a dick move.
POSTED: 05/20/2012 03:12pm]]> Comments Sun, 20 May 2012 15:12:55 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_ignore_bill_ward.html#u_28 POSTED: 12/18/2012 12:01am]]> Comments Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:01:19 -0500