[Comments] Latest Comments from Ultimate-Guitar.Com. en-us Copyright 1998-2013 Ultimate-Guitar.Com. All rights reserved. http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html webmaster@ultimate-guitar.com Tue, 26 Oct 2010 04:35:18 -0400 Sat, 18 May 2013 09:26:10 -0400 60 Ultimate-Guitar.Com http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/img/logo_rss.gif http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/ 144 44 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_1 POSTED: 10/26/2010 07:05am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:20 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_2 POSTED: 10/26/2010 07:07am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:07:58 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_3
This is not a 9.4/10 guitar. A Gibson Les Paul Standard or a Custom Shop Strat/Tele is probably a 9.4/10 guitar.

Also, you say you play mostly metal and that this guitar suits it perfectly - Les Pauls are world renowned for their exclusive use in metal... but then, this isn't a Les Paul, it's a knock off.

You say you've been playing for 3 years, and this is best guitar you've played. You need to get down to a music shop and pick up pretty much any guitar there, and then you will have a new best guitar to talk about. Pick up a Gibson or ESP or Rickenbacker, and then call this knock off a 9.4/10 guitar...
POSTED: 10/26/2010 07:22am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:22:02 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_4 Vauxite wrote:

It's not called a Les Paul, they'd get mega sued for that. Tokai did. Put the proper model name/number on.
Agreed.

seemeel wrote:

Then call it a Les Paul knock off.

This is not a 9.4/10 guitar. A Gibson Les Paul Standard or a Custom Shop Strat/Tele is probably a 9.4/10 guitar.

Also, you say you play mostly metal and that this guitar suits it perfectly - Les Pauls are world renowned for their exclusive use in metal... but then, this isn't a Les Paul, it's a knock off.

You say you've been playing for 3 years, and this is best guitar you've played. You need to get down to a music shop and pick up pretty much any guitar there, and then you will have a new best guitar to talk about. Pick up a Gibson or ESP or Rickenbacker, and then call this knock off a 9.4/10 guitar...

Also agreed.


I know i will get flamed once again for saying this, but this is an awful review, inaccurate, and screams of inexperience.
Another review UG should've rejected.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 07:32am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:32:41 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_5 POSTED: 10/26/2010 07:46am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:46:59 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_6 POSTED: 10/26/2010 09:42am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:42:56 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_7 POSTED: 10/26/2010 09:49am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:49:23 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_8 bulletandchains wrote:

the horn doesnt even look like a les paul! this is another cheap guitar!! to be honest , it looks shite!

Yeah, if the body shape was 100% like a real Gibson they'd have the shite sued out of them. Tbh, if you're gonna get an LP copy for less than 200 quid, buy a westfield. I have one and they're awesome. The only problem I've had with mine is the bridge came out slightly but all it needed was some super-sticky adhesive. I put a set of Duncans in mine and it sounds amazing, even through my Spider III.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 11:21am]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:21:31 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_9 there was no model number on the guitar and it looked like a les paul , i assumed straight off that it was a les paul copy , now i review it and people are saying how inexperienced i am with guitars/reviews etc..
i am definitley not inexperienced with playing a guitar , i know i am not good with reviews , having never done one before.
this is one of the best guitars i have played , if you have got a problem with that , go tell someone who gives a damn.

To linkerman - it was my first review , everyone messes up on their first one , and it was accurate as well , it was just what i thought of the guitar when i played it , you got a problem , ill say again , go tell someone who gives a damn .
POSTED: 10/26/2010 12:14pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:14:49 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_10 POSTED: 10/26/2010 12:27pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:27:19 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_11 lmao , i review a guitar and i get flamed for it , just shows how stupid people on this site really are.
there was no model number on the guitar and it looked like a les paul , i assumed straight off that it was a les paul copy , now i review it and people are saying how inexperienced i am with guitars/reviews etc..
i am definitley not inexperienced with playing a guitar , i know i am not good with reviews , having never done one before.
this is one of the best guitars i have played , if you have got a problem with that , go tell someone who gives a damn.

To linkerman - it was my first review , everyone messes up on their first one , and it was accurate as well , it was just what i thought of the guitar when i played it , you got a problem , ill say again , go tell someone who gives a damn .

I believe what they're saying horrorpunk is that even though this may be the BEST guitar you've ever played, the scale of judging the guitar from 1-10 is a scale for all guitars. That being said you've stacked a low end, cheap guitar, which may be pretty decent, up among high end guitar that range from 900-2000 bucks. A 6 or 7 may have been more appropriate for an overall rating
POSTED: 10/26/2010 12:28pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:28:31 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_12
Case and point, Josh Homme loves playing out of Gorilla amplifiers, but Gorilla's are typically what a regular player would call a creative set of words that essentially boils down to shit. But Homme himself has said that he prefers them because they're shit. And, for the sound that he's looking for, I'm sure that he'd give it 8-10 out of ten, because thats the sound that he's looking for. The rest of us would probably note that the amplifier is shit.

I've played guitars in the high price range that felt like absolute shit, and sounded like absolute shit. Know Gibson's Raw series, with the stripped down necks and hot humbuckers? They're terrible, there was a knot in the wood of the neck of the one I was playing. And I've got a guitar that I picked up for 200 bucks that I believe is the sound for ME.

Look, many Gibson's are shit now, and unless you purchase a vintage one, you might end up regretting your purchase. It might not always be the case, but it often is. Lay off the man, perhaps he prefers this particular guitar to higher-end ones that he's played?
POSTED: 10/26/2010 12:41pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:41:15 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_13 POSTED: 10/26/2010 12:57pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 12:57:36 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_14
Of course a PRS is gonna be way better than a Les Paul knockoff. But a PRS is gonna cost ten times more.

Therefore, the ratings have to be relative to price, otherwise any guitar that isn't the Martin D-100 would have a crap rating. Because that guitar was like $100,000 or something.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 01:37pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 13:37:16 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_15 POSTED: 10/26/2010 03:48pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:48:52 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_16 L2112Lif wrote:

Look, many Gibson's are shit now,?

Agreed. i think that if you want to make the scores on your review subjective you should say it in the review. if you don't people will assume you mean against all other guitars out there
POSTED: 10/26/2010 04:17pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:17:44 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_17 POSTED: 10/26/2010 04:52pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:52:01 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_18 POSTED: 10/26/2010 08:13pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:13:51 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_19 Dallinisrad wrote:

LOL
This.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 09:07pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:07:57 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_20 championguitar wrote:

L2112Lif wrote:

Look, many Gibson's are shit now,?

Agreed. i think that if you want to make the scores on your review subjective you should say it in the review. if you don't people will assume you mean against all other guitars out there


Did you just pull my quote out of context, and use it in a way that was not intended? I opened up with the rating system is completely subjective, not that its selectively subjective. What you're proposing is selective subjectivity, which doesn't work...

In order to give a pure, empirical rating, one would have to go and sample EVERY GUITAR OUT IN EXISTENCE, otherwise their rating would be skewed because they didn't play so-and-so's telecaster thats had its neck broken six times, fixed four, and replaced three times, because EVERY GUITAR SOUNDS DIFFERENT. Even at THAT, there's going to be a bias to what the reviewer plays or listens to. Every person has a different structure for their outer ear, and that structure acts as a passive equalizer. So, what sounds good to one person MIGHT JUST SOUND LIKE SHIT to someone else.

Get a grip, and stop being dicks to people who publish reviews, or maybe publish your own. There are certain stupid traps that reviewers often fall into on this site, e.g. Not owning the guitar for long, reviewing its reliability without ever taking it out for friends, playing through an amplifier that overly colors the sound, only playing through one source, not giving the guitar a once-over for any blemishes... But this particular reviewer did not fall into them.

He might be using a product that is inferior to your 'distinguished' taste, but it doesn't make his review wrong.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 09:27pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:27:52 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_21 Twitch Galvy wrote:

9.4 Gibson? lol right, perhaps a custom shop Fender deserves that rating, I wouldn't know. Yet I guarantee you nothing that Gibson makes these days gets a 9.4. Try with an Ibanez USA or j custom or a guitar of similar caliber, then you'll have something worthy of a 9.4 review. If a LP standard is worthy of this high a rating, 1/1000 knock offs must certainly a clear 10; when it comes to knock offs and cheap end guitars, the individual axe is sometimes (if not rather often) much better than the average.

Good work reading the review... Or the title. You kinda missed the part where he says its NOT A GIBSON. Take your brand-hate elsewhere.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 09:29pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:29:41 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_22 L2112Lif wrote:

Twitch Galvy wrote:

9.4 Gibson? lol right, perhaps a custom shop Fender deserves that rating, I wouldn't know. Yet I guarantee you nothing that Gibson makes these days gets a 9.4. Try with an Ibanez USA or j custom or a guitar of similar caliber, then you'll have something worthy of a 9.4 review. If a LP standard is worthy of this high a rating, 1/1000 knock offs must certainly a clear 10; when it comes to knock offs and cheap end guitars, the individual axe is sometimes (if not rather often) much better than the average.

Good work reading the review... Or the title. You kinda missed the part where he says its NOT A GIBSON. Take your brand-hate elsewhere.

I was commenting on a previous comment, dumbshit. Of course I read the review and thus my hate on inferior quality stays where it is.
POSTED: 10/26/2010 09:57pm]]> Comments Tue, 26 Oct 2010 21:57:16 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_23 POSTED: 10/27/2010 12:24am]]> Comments Wed, 27 Oct 2010 00:24:40 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_24 celticstorm84 :
Ratings are subjective, deal with it. Want objectivity? Then have actual qualified people review stuff...not a bunch of keyboard commandos poking around the internet thinking they know something and coughing up opinions like they have things figured out.

Every argument is now invalid...
POSTED: 10/27/2010 01:15am]]> Comments Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:15:15 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_25
the rating is proportional to the price of the guitar. i'm going to repeat that, because it sounds vaguely important. the rating is proportional to the price of the guitar.

If you buy a $200 guitar but it sounds like a $400 guitar, the guitar deserves a high rating
POSTED: 10/27/2010 03:54am]]> Comments Wed, 27 Oct 2010 03:54:36 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_26 POSTED: 10/27/2010 07:38am]]> Comments Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:38:28 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/electric_guitars/rikter/les_paul/index.html#u_27 POSTED: 05/18/2013 09:26am]]> Comments Sat, 18 May 2013 09:26:10 -0400