[Comments] Latest Comments from Ultimate-Guitar.Com. en-us Copyright 1998-2013 Ultimate-Guitar.Com. All rights reserved. http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html webmaster@ultimate-guitar.com Mon, 01 Aug 2005 06:04:46 -0400 Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:40:04 -0500 60 Ultimate-Guitar.Com http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/img/logo_rss.gif http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/ 144 44 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_1 POSTED: 07/12/2006 05:34pm]]> Comments Wed, 12 Jul 2006 17:34:37 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_2
POSTED: 08/03/2006 10:51am]]> Comments Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:51:35 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_3
POSTED: 01/28/2007 08:55pm]]> Comments Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:55:14 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_4 POSTED: 03/08/2007 06:56pm]]> Comments Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:56:16 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_5 POSTED: 03/11/2007 07:56am]]> Comments Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:56:58 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_6 POSTED: 06/11/2007 10:01pm]]> Comments Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:01:54 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_7
This was in '96. He died in '02. I'd hardly say that's near the end of his life, although it was certainly near the end of his career, and yes, he was heavily into drugs at this point.
POSTED: 02/14/2008 11:59am]]> Comments Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:59:59 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_8 POSTED: 02/14/2008 12:51pm]]> Comments Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:51:55 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_9 sambargun wrote:

It was certainly the end of his life and career. If you've seen the original video, there's that part where Layne ****s up the beginning of 'Sludge Factory' and the whole band starts all over again. He was pretty much gone at this point

What the hell are you talking about? Things probably took a turn for the worse after his fiancee died, which was AFTER the unplugged session.

I don't think he could've delivered such a wonderful performance if he'd been "pretty much gone" at the time. He just starts off singing the wrong verse, that's all. That's the only mistake he made (and a damn funny one may I add). I don't know if you watch many live shows but these things happen pretty often, especially if you haven't toured for years (as Layne mentioned during the show).
POSTED: 02/15/2008 04:24am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:24:25 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_10 POSTED: 02/15/2008 05:27am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:27:50 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_11 POSTED: 02/15/2008 06:49am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:49:50 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_12 POSTED: 02/15/2008 07:33am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:33:16 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_13 shwilly wrote:

sambargun wrote:

It was certainly the end of his life and career. If you've seen the original video, there's that part where Layne ****s up the beginning of 'Sludge Factory' and the whole band starts all over again. He was pretty much gone at this point

What the hell are you talking about? Things probably took a turn for the worse after his fiancee died, which was AFTER the unplugged session.

I don't think he could've delivered such a wonderful performance if he'd been "pretty much gone" at the time. He just starts off singing the wrong verse, that's all. That's the only mistake he made (and a damn funny one may I add). I don't know if you watch many live shows but these things happen pretty often, especially if you haven't toured for years (as Layne mentioned during the show).

What are you talking about?

Most of the vocals are coming from Cantrell.
Staley was pretty much messed up on the stage.
watch the performance. Glad that it was a show that didn't include standing up.

Staley is one of the best vocalist of all time, and in grunge AIC is even better then Nirvana.
POSTED: 02/15/2008 08:36am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:36:58 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_14 This album is absolutely one of my Top 5 favs.
POSTED: 02/15/2008 08:39am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:39:16 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_15 AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..
POSTED: 02/15/2008 11:23am]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:23:58 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_16 What are you talking about?

Most of the vocals are coming from Cantrell.
Staley was pretty much messed up on the stage.
watch the performance. Glad that it was a show that didn't include standing up.


I was thinking the same exact thing everyone is praising Layne Staley but Cantrell sings this whole ****in thing practically.
POSTED: 02/15/2008 12:24pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:24:41 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_17 kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because Nirvana was the first.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
And Nirvana's Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time.
Only grunge bands i would put before Nirvana is AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins, and Pumpkins didn't do their best work with the grunge record's, so i wouldn't say that Pumpkins is a better Grunge band then Nirvana.

Understand?
POSTED: 02/15/2008 03:07pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:07:54 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_18 kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because it all started with Nirvana.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
That and Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time. There is only few bands that i would put before Nirvana in grunge category and they are AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins.
The Pumpkin's didn't even make their best record's when they made grunge rock, so i wouldn't even put them before Nirvana in grunge.

Understand?
POSTED: 02/15/2008 03:11pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:11:25 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_19 POSTED: 02/15/2008 03:22pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:22:44 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_20 i want to hear nutshell before i die. its so sad and painful
POSTED: 02/15/2008 04:54pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:54:19 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_21 Because it all started with Nirvana.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
quote]

Nirvana was just another punk band.... they just had a distinctive sound... I think they sound more old-school punk than grunge... When I think of grunge I think of Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, AIC, even old STP sounds more grungy than Nirvana....

If anyone disagrees with me that Nirvana was a punk band, well then you are also disagreeing with Cobain himself.... he called himself and his band punkers and he didn't like the credit he got for "inventing" grunge... He didn't even like grunge music....
POSTED: 02/15/2008 07:13pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:13:34 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_22
Others arent even worth mentioning.....none of them.
POSTED: 02/15/2008 07:35pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:35:21 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_23 POSTED: 02/15/2008 09:54pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:54:56 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_24 Confetti wrote:

kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because it all started with Nirvana.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
That and Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time. There is only few bands that i would put before Nirvana in grunge category and they are AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins.
The Pumpkin's didn't even make their best record's when they made grunge rock, so i wouldn't even put them before Nirvana in grunge.

Understand?

?????

grunge was around way before Nevermind
POSTED: 02/15/2008 11:13pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:13:22 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_25 Confetti wrote:

kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because it all started with Nirvana.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
That and Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time. There is only few bands that i would put before Nirvana in grunge category and they are AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins.
The Pumpkin's didn't even make their best record's when they made grunge rock, so i wouldn't even put them before Nirvana in grunge.

Understand?
?????
Grunge was around way before Nevermind
POSTED: 02/15/2008 11:13pm]]> Comments Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:13:49 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_26 POSTED: 02/16/2008 02:17am]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:17:29 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_27 DP_SF_DTX_RATM wrote:
?????
Grunge was around way before Nevermind

Did i say it wasn't?
How stupid are you people? I sayd grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was. Thats a freaking fact.
I never sayd that they were the first grunge band.
But sure hell they are not a punk band.


POSTED: 02/16/2008 02:52am]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:52:00 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_28 POSTED: 02/16/2008 09:54am]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:54:54 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_29 Confetti wrote:

DP_SF_DTX_RATM wrote:
?????
Grunge was around way before Nevermind


Did i say it wasn't?
How stupid are you people? I sayd grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was. Thats a freaking fact.
I never sayd that they were the first grunge band.
But sure hell they are not a punk band.

Confetti wrote:
Because Nirvana was the first.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
And Nirvana's Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time.
Only grunge bands i would put before Nirvana is AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins, and Pumpkins didn't do their best work with the grunge record's, so i wouldn't say that Pumpkins is a better Grunge band then Nirvana.

Understand?

actually you did say they were the first
POSTED: 02/16/2008 12:01pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:01:03 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_30
anyway back to topic, i love this album, this is what brought me back to AIC. i was so sick of hearing their played out shit on the radio i stopped listening to them. after this album, i refound them, and could enjoy them again, even to this day.. GREAT album.
POSTED: 02/16/2008 12:11pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:11:03 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_31 roarinflames wrote:
actually you did say they were the first

Meaning they were first band that made it big. Idiot.
POSTED: 02/16/2008 12:37pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:37:08 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_32 POSTED: 02/16/2008 01:24pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:24:47 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_33 POSTED: 02/16/2008 04:56pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:56:33 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_34 phoetwny wrote:

nirvana,was lucky enough and did there unplugged in one take and they were the only band to do this when Mtv still was " playing music" ,if layne or anyone else fuqqzup in recording it means there human, has nothing to do with personal demons. i wonder how many pplz whom comment could actually perform on stage or even hold it together enough to do a recording ,jus 1 song much less 13
if you listen to polly, he sings like every other word in the
chorus
...some seed...
POSTED: 02/16/2008 06:15pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:15:49 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_35 If Nirvana is grunge, then Nirvana is a form of punk.
Nirvana was NOT the first grunge band, as many people have made light of. Grunge had existed in some form or another in Seattle from 1984 and possibly before that as well. Nevermind was the first "alternative" rock album to hit #1; it, in turn, caused many other grunge bands to do well, even going so far as to have Pearl Jam's "Ten" outsell Nevermind.
The reason you have heard of any grunge bands is because of Nirvana. Like their music or not, that is fact. As individuals, none of those bands were able to break into the mainstream before Nirvana got there. In fact, many of them might not have released their best material as a) many bands, such as the Smashing Pumpkins, went out of their way to NOT sound like Nirvana, and b) being in a band that plays music nobody likes isn't financially viable.

I know bashing Nirvana is the cool thing for elitist grunge pricks to do, but you owe them a debt of servitude whether or not you like their music (not calling them Grunge essentially amounts to either not knowing what grunge means or not having listened to any of Nirvana's b-sides or rarities [From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah], or In Utero for that matter), because without them the majority of you wouldn't have heard of any of these bands.

Alice in Chains can all themselves whatever they want; they're Grunge. This is also a phenomenal album and anyone who wants to hear a great Unplugged performance needs to check out this album.
POSTED: 02/16/2008 08:08pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:08:27 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_36 kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.

There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

you're so right its ridiculous
POSTED: 02/16/2008 09:59pm]]> Comments Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:59:39 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_37 Confetti wrote:

roarinflames wrote:
actually you did say they were the first


Meaning they were first band that made it big. Idiot.
ok first off, no reason to overreact.
second, calling me an idiot and telling everyone they're stupid is going to get you warned.
third, im right anyway because you did say "nirvana was the first."
and for a final note, just calm the hell down. you're way too damn defensive to be on this site. your comments are immature and childish.


now back to the main issue.
this album is ****ing awesome.
POSTED: 02/17/2008 12:50am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:50:33 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_38 POSTED: 02/17/2008 04:00am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:00:22 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_39 DP_SF_DTX_RATM wrote:

Confetti wrote:

kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because it all started with Nirvana.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
That and Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time. There is only few bands that i would put before Nirvana in grunge category and they are AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins.
The Pumpkin's didn't even make their best record's when they made grunge rock, so i wouldn't even put them before Nirvana in grunge.

Understand?
?????

true, nevermind was almost too clean sounding to be grunge, Cobain even said that himself.
Grunge was around way before Nevermind
POSTED: 02/17/2008 06:44am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:44:25 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_40 POSTED: 02/17/2008 09:09am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:09:10 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_41 POSTED: 02/17/2008 09:35am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:35:55 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_42 Confetti wrote:

DP_SF_DTX_RATM wrote:
?????
Grunge was around way before Nevermind

Did i say it wasn't?
How stupid are you people? I sayd grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was. Thats a freaking fact.
I never sayd that they were the first grunge band.
But sure hell they are not a punk band.


Chill out I misread it, go change your tampon
POSTED: 02/17/2008 11:57am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:57:40 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_43 POSTED: 02/17/2008 11:59am]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:59:35 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_44 Confetti wrote:

DP_SF_DTX_RATM wrote:
?????
Grunge was around way before Nevermind

Did i say it wasn't?
How stupid are you people? I sayd grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was. Thats a freaking fact.
I never sayd that they were the first grunge band.
But sure hell they are not a punk band.

jeez confetti, first u said that nirvana was first, then you wrote the comment a second time saying nirvana started it. eitherway, ur saying they began grunge. before you get all high and mighty, first check if your right.
POSTED: 02/17/2008 01:22pm]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:22:08 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_45 POSTED: 02/17/2008 02:44pm]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:44:13 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_46
And as for the matter of Grunge and who got the Seattle bands big; Yes, Nirvana helped bring Seattle to the limelight and brought fame to the bands of that area, but that doesn't mean they weren't finding success on their own. In fact, they would've been better off without the Grunge label. Because of this association, when Grunge was replaced with sappy commercially-viable post-grunge bullshit, like Creed, people sort of lost interest in what Seattle was doing. The popular Grunge bands were not mainstream because they wrote mainstream music. They were mainstream because people made them so. So were Alice in Chains grunge? They were, yes. But they were far more metal / hard rock than anything else. Musically, they had almost nothing in common with Nirvana. They are only compared because they are from the same area.

I own the Unplugged DVD, and watch it all the time. One of my absolute favorite live performances by any band!
POSTED: 02/17/2008 05:06pm]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:06:00 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_47 Glad that it was a show that didn't include standing up.


Well, he managed at the Kiss shows a few months later.
POSTED: 02/17/2008 05:14pm]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:14:50 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_48 LOL pumpkins more grunge than Nivana, kids are funny

Jellybelly and Tales of a Scorched Earth would have killed Kurt Cobain if he wasn't already dead. Seriously, his head would have just exploded.
POSTED: 02/17/2008 09:09pm]]> Comments Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:09:30 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_49 DownInAHole. wrote:

best album ever recorded

agreed; it's right next to no. 4 (STP) and Revolver (The Beatles)...i like the DVD that shows layne messing up sludge factory
POSTED: 07/14/2008 03:42pm]]> Comments Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:42:06 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_50 Confetti wrote:

kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because Nirvana was the first.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
And Nirvana's Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time.
Only grunge bands i would put before Nirvana is AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins, and Pumpkins didn't do their best work with the grunge record's, so i wouldn't say that Pumpkins is a better Grunge band then Nirvana.

Understand?

Nirvana was not the first. Alice in Chains were around long before Nirvana were, not to mention early incarnations of Pearl Jam (Green River, Mother Love Bone). And the Pixies? Come on. They were around before it all.
Were Nirvana the first to start selling buttloads of records under this made up "genre"? Yes. Was Nevermind that great? In my opinion, no. But everyone has their own...

Also, I'd like to point out that the Smashing Pumpkins were pretty far from grunge. Sure their earlier stuff drew HEAVILY from that loud-quiet-loud formula that Kurt liked to use, (Both Cobain and Corgan have admitted they stole that trick from the Pixies.) but the Pumpkins, being from Chicago rather than Seattle, fell juuuuust outside the wide and unclear umbrella that was grunge. Besides, they were closer to goth rock and later, far too electronically influenced to be labelled just grunge.
POSTED: 10/08/2008 02:13am]]> Comments Wed, 08 Oct 2008 02:13:40 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_51 POSTED: 01/06/2009 05:37pm]]> Comments Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:37:41 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_52 Sister Bob wrote:

Confetti wrote:

kop4 wrote:

AIC is even better then Nirvana.
There are other grunge bands way better than Nirvana, I don`t understand why people go crazy about this band..

Because Nirvana was the first.
Grunge bloomed after Nirvana made it what it was.
And Nirvana's Nevermind is still one of the best rock records of all time.
Only grunge bands i would put before Nirvana is AIC and The Smashing Pumpkins, and Pumpkins didn't do their best work with the grunge record's, so i wouldn't say that Pumpkins is a better Grunge band then Nirvana.

Understand?

Nirvana was not the first. Alice in Chains were around long before Nirvana were, not to mention early incarnations of Pearl Jam (Green River, Mother Love Bone). And the Pixies? Come on. They were around before it all.
Were Nirvana the first to start selling buttloads of records under this made up "genre"? Yes. Was Nevermind that great? In my opinion, no. But everyone has their own...

Also, I'd like to point out that the Smashing Pumpkins were pretty far from grunge. Sure their earlier stuff drew HEAVILY from that loud-quiet-loud formula that Kurt liked to use, (Both Cobain and Corgan have admitted they stole that trick from the Pixies.) but the Pumpkins, being from Chicago rather than Seattle, fell juuuuust outside the wide and unclear umbrella that was grunge. Besides, they were closer to goth rock and later, far too electronically influenced to be labelled just grunge.

nirvana's been around since the mid 80's they were called "fecal matter" at that time i think, but alice in chains may have been around longer than nirvana (not by much though) but that doesnt mean they were the first "grunge" band because at that time AIC was playing hair metal type stuff
POSTED: 01/06/2009 05:40pm]]> Comments Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:40:42 -0500 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_53 Submerged wrote:

LOL pumpkins more grunge than Nivana, kids are funny

Jellybelly and Tales of a Scorched Earth would have killed Kurt Cobain if he wasn't already dead. Seriously, his head would have just exploded.

Curmudgeon, Oh, the Guily and You Know You're Right are much heavier than anything the Pumpkins have ever done -.-
POSTED: 07/11/2009 06:00pm]]> Comments Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:00:01 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_54
I could give it a 10/10 if they included I Stay Away and Don't Follow in it.
POSTED: 04/25/2012 04:00pm]]> Comments Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:00:31 -0400 http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/reviews/compact_discs/alice_in_chains/unplugged/index.html#u_55 POSTED: 11/26/2012 10:40pm]]> Comments Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:40:04 -0500