co-founder Roger Waters
gave a detailed explanation of his stance about Israeli government, drawing comparisons with Nazi Germany and wishing more musicians would write about the world of politics.
Chatting with Counterpunch
, Waters was asked to address those thinking that mixing music and politics isn't the proper way to go. Giving the explanation, the bassist touched on the matter of his new solo record.
"Well it's funny you should say that because I just finished yesterday the text of a new piece which will be a new album of mine,"
he said. "It's about a grandfather in Northern Ireland going on a quest with his grandchild to find the answer to the question: 'Why are they killing the children?', because the child is really worried about it. Right at the very end of it, I decided to add something more. In the song, the child tells his grandpa: 'Is that it?' and the grandpa replies 'No, we cannot leave on that note, give me another note.' A new song starts and the grandpa makes a speech. He says: 'We live on a tiny dot in a middle of a lot of f--king nothing.'
"Now, if you’re not interested in any of this, if you're one of those 'Roger I love Pink Floyd but I hate your f--king politics,' if you believe artists should be mute, emasculated, nodding dogs dangling aimlessly over the dashboard of life, you might be well advised to f--k off to the bar now, because, time keeps slipping away."
Adding he doesn't know when the album will see the light of day, Waters also confirmed recording over an hour-long demo of "heavy"
material, raising important questions with "some humor in it."
"Look, if I'm the only one doing it, I am entirely content,"
he added. "I mean, I'm not, I wish there were more people writing about politics and our real situation. Even from what could be considered extreme points of view. It's very important that Goya did what he did, same for Picasso and Guernica and all those anti-war novels that came out during and after the Vietnam war."
Roger then focused on his cultural boycott of Israel, giving a detailed explanation on the current state of affairs. "I would say that I understand their opinion,"
he said about people considering cultural boycott as the wrong approach. "Everybody should have one. But I can’t agree with them, I think that they are entirely wrong. The situation in Israel/Palestine, with the occupation, the ethnic cleansing and the systematic racist apartheid Israeli regime is unacceptable.
"So for an artist to go and play in a country that occupies other people’s land and oppresses them the way Israel does, is plain wrong. They should say no. I would not have played for the Vichy government in occupied France in the Second World War, I would not have played in Berlin either during this time."
Drawing parallels with Nazi Germany, the musician added, "The voice, for instance, of the right wing rabbinate, which is so bizarre and hard to hear that you can hardly believe that it's real. They believe some very weird stuff you know, they believe that everybody that is not a Jew is only on earth to serve them and they believe that the Indigenous people of the region that they kicked off the land in 1948 and have continued to kick off the land ever since are sub-human.
"The parallels with what went on in the '30s in Germany are so crushingly obvious that it doesn't surprise me that the movement that both you and I are involved in is growing every day."
During the rest of the chat, Waters focused on propaganda he believes is being spread across the US, starting over in Israeli schools. "It's like a huge bucket of c-ap that they are pouring into the mouth of gullible public in my view, when they say 'We are afraid of Iran, it is going to get nuclear weapons,'"
he said. "It’s a diversionary tactic. The lie that they have told for the last 20 years is 'Oh, we want to make peace,' you know and they talk about Clinton and Arafat and Barrack being in Camp David and that they came very close to agreeing, and the story that they sold was 'Oh Arafat f--ked it all up.' Well, no, he did not."