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Audioslave Split Was Due To Money? |
| artist: audioslave |
date: 02/28/2007 |
category: general music news |
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The recent departure of frontman Chris Cornell from Audioslave was originally described as due to "irresolvable personality conflicts as well as musical differences" but sources tell the New York Post that the split had more to do with money than anything else.
According to the source: "Chris was unhappy with the financial arrangement within the group - he wrote all the music, yet the other three bandmates took an equal share in the multimillion-dollar publishing rights."
Audioslave formed in October of 2000, shortly after the break up of Rage Against The Machine. The group eventually recruited ex-Soundgarden vocalist Chris Cornell to front the band and went on to release three full lengths, which is exactly how many original studio full lengths Rage released as well.
The departure has paved the way for Rage Against The Machine's upcoming reunion shows, as well as guitarist Tom Morello's side project, The Nightwatchman.
Thanks for the info to Punknews.org.
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audiorage
: Hmmm i dont think he did write all the music. tom writes most of the music and chris writes all of lyricsPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:11 am / quote |
joshua029
: wow, i love cornell's stuff but it sounds like he's a butthole...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:16 am / quote |
Jenky
: this is not working out well for Mr Cornell at all. i think he's really gonna go down in peoples opinions.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:18 am / quote |
Belsius
: I dont think cornell left the band for that. I think they already had issues and if you add money problems then everything blows up. If i was pist with my bandmates i wouldnt want them to have more than a dollar. This is completely normal in every band. dont flame chris. Still, who cares, i dont give a **** about their personal lives. Cornell will do better alone(musicaly) and rage is back. The nightwatchman is not horrible(Well is really arrogant. he think he is Leonard Cohen or Pete Seeger). Audioslave was quite mediocre, they only had like ten good songs, most of them in the first album.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 10:09 am / quote |
JimmyC8277
: Yep heard this before on the audioslave forum, its true. Turns out that cornell wanted 50 percent of the profits and the other 3 to split the remaining 50 percent. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 10:10 am / quote |
duncang
: JimmyC8277 wrote:
Yep heard this before on the audioslave forum, its true. Turns out that cornell wanted 50 percent of the profits and the other 3 to split the remaining 50 percent. |
Ridiculous.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:25 am / quote |
xion665
: Thats stupid, im in a band and whatever we make at a show i want split equally between all five of us. A band is in it together and having someone wanting to play music with you even if they dont write anything is a great feat in its own right. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:26 am / quote |
Mynabull
: SELL OUT!!!! Whatever happened to music you can actually feel and relate to Chris?POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:29 am / quote |
False_God
: since when is being in a band with 3 great musicians been about the money?? sad...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:33 am / quote |
TwistedLogic
: I find it hard to believe that Chris wrote all the music himself. Morello and Cumerford ( not sure if that is the bassists name) must have contributed. Someone else mentioned that if this kind of thing continues it could really hurt Cornell's public image. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:50 am / quote |
aic_rooster
: He would have a point if it were true.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:58 am / quote |
Sound_Garden_X
: This is hard to believe since Cornell was in Soundgarden and they were the head of the alt. rock thing in the 90's, but if it is I lost some respect for the guy.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:13 pm / quote |
bassdrum
: This is completely bullshit. I know for a fact that he does not write all of the music, maybe the lyrics but not the music. It really saddens me when bands do this (it usually is the vocalist). POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:13 pm / quote |
woodrya4
: cornell may have wrote lyrics, but I'm sure the others wrote their own musical parts. Don't even try to tell me cornell can write morello's riffs and solos.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:14 pm / quote |
SlashNX
: Chris may have written all the lyrics... but i seriously doubt he wrote any of the guitar parts!! You could clearly hear all of them had their part to play in the writing of the songs... so he wrote all the lyrics?? doesnt mean he should get me money for it!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:22 pm / quote |
Nacho2006
: i dont know if i trust the NY times, media in general...and i dont believe for a second cornell would split for purely monetary reasons. like, media does shit just to sell their mags, and we all know that the musicians wrote their stuff...just seems like the times doesnt know all of what they're talkin about...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:22 pm / quote |
that1l)ude
: Chris didnt write all of the music. there is no way the other three guys in the band should have to split 50% of the pay.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:31 pm / quote |
str84ever
: woodrya4 wrote:
cornell may have wrote lyrics, but I'm sure the others wrote their own musical parts. Don't even try to tell me cornell can write morello's riffs and solos. |
well he does play guitar..POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:33 pm / quote |
i_am_metalhead
: Okay, lets say Chris did write all the music... So what!?? Without the rest of the band to play the music he would have nothing. They all play an equal part in the band so they all deserve equal pay.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 12:46 pm / quote |
Jimmy94
: First of all, if this is true it was about splitting the PUBLISHING RIGHTS of the songs. Not ALL of the money the group was bringing in. It's ridiculous to split publishing rights among band members that had nothing to do with songwriting. Songwriting takes a lot of hard work, why should the drummer that doesn't write anything get money out of it?
Second, I completely believe that Cornell wrote most if not all of the songs. Writing a guitar part or a solo is NOT the same as having a part in writing a song. Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway.
Seems to me like Cornell had a right to the publishing rights.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:05 pm / quote |
myothername
: Will someone give this douchebag a real job so I don't have to hear about him anymore. Audioslave was a low point as far as Morello's creativity is concerned and RATM reforming to play some shows is the best thing that could have happened. I hope they go on to record another album and Cornell disappears from popular music completely. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:06 pm / quote |
Jimmy94
: myothername wrote:
Will someone give this douchebag a real job so I don't have to hear about him anymore. Audioslave was a low point as far as Morello's creativity is concerned and RATM reforming to play some shows is the best thing that could have happened. I hope they go on to record another album and Cornell disappears from popular music completely. |
Chris Cornell is the best singer/guitarist/songwriter in popular music right now. I'm so happy he got away from audioslave, their musicianship was amateur at best (especially Morello), now he can get back to making better music.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:10 pm / quote |
the_bear_shark
: | but sources tell the New York Post... |
im not sure id trust these "sources" seeing as cornell didnt even write all the music himself.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:16 pm / quote |
titan88
: I call BS on this whole article. Cornell has a buttload of money--why would he leave the band because he didn't "get enough" money? It doesn't make sense at all.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:33 pm / quote |
justinR951
: the rest of the band's going back to rage. and chris will probably go solo for the rest of his career. audioslave was a good band but they weren't great. this is for the best for all the band members.
nothin to cry over.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:37 pm / quote |
Speedy13
: who cares about cornell he's probably laughing right row cuz he's filthy rich, good riddancePOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:38 pm / quote |
Meths
: audiorage wrote:
Hmmm i dont think he did write all the music. tom writes most of the music and chris writes all of lyrics |
Same, I really doubt that he wrote all of it. All the album sleeves agree with me as well, say Cornell wrote lyrics but the music was written by the whole band.
And as somebody else said I don't think Cornell needs the money.
Also Jimmy94, Cornell doesn't frequent this site, your shameless asslicking won't get you anywhere except into many UGers'hate lists.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:48 pm / quote |
SplutterBrain
: Chris wrote all the music? Where were all the riffs in 7/4 then? :PPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 01:50 pm / quote |
Amito
: if this is true, I've lost some respect for Chris, bring on RATMPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:08 pm / quote |
GimmeToro
: Jimmy94 wrote:
Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway. |
I really hope you're joking.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:10 pm / quote |
trackmind
: titan88 wrote:
I call BS on this whole article. Cornell has a buttload of money--why would he leave the band because he didn't "get enough" money? It doesn't make sense at all. |
Because he wants more, perhaps? That's the way the human mind works.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:10 pm / quote |
sowhat360
: yeah cornell wrote all the music himself..hahaha, maybe he decided on what key it had to be in so he could sing it. theres no way he wrote all the music, he's not that good, look at his solo career. they say history repeats itself.....he left soundgarden and now he left audioslave.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:12 pm / quote |
sowhat360
: Alone2Bleed wrote:
NO ONE CARES! RAGES AGAINST THE SLAVES SUCKS! |
go listen to fallout boy ya douchePOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:13 pm / quote |
korn_dawg
: i_am_metalhead :
Okay, lets say Chris did write all the music... So what!?? Without the rest of the band to play the music he would have nothing. They all play an equal part in the band so they all deserve equal pay. |
As an entire band, yes they are equal, but are you saying that Trent Reznor has nothing? No, he hires musicians, and you can bet they don't get as much money as he does. It should be obvious though that Chris doesn't write all of the music, if you see what he does write when he's solo.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:17 pm / quote |
guitarkid2113
: I'm kinda glad that Audioslave split. I liked them at first, but I like Rage better. RATM is now back together right? Not just for a couple shows?POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:19 pm / quote |
ZeRoGuY
: i knew since their first single came out they were no good. you can tell by cornell's voice.. ugh..
i'll trade a few rage reunions that i can't even be at for the death of audioslave anyday.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:20 pm / quote |
thedrizzle
: I think considering the upcoming Rage Against the Machine show, maybe this could open up a reformation and new material from a band that I badly want to see reform.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:32 pm / quote |
Kid_Thorazine
: if he wrotes the lyrics, then traditional he would get 50% of the royalties, i dont personally agree with that, but thats how the business works usually. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:38 pm / quote |
Jimmy94
: SplutterBrain wrote:
Chris wrote all the music? Where were all the riffs in 7/4 then? :P |
The rest of the band wouldn't be able to handle anything but standard medium tempo 4/4. I'm not asslicking Cornell, I'm just saying it how it is. He's superior to Morello in every way imaginable.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:38 pm / quote |
el drew
: chris cornell is really coming off as the typical egotistic singer if this story is accurate... i mean suprise suprise the singer wants more money and wants the band to have less money... well chris if it wasnt for these bands that have always backed you, you would be suckin bus-drivers off in the stall at a greyhound stationPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:47 pm / quote |
Jard_weirdo
: I knew it its all about money. Chris is greedy.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 02:59 pm / quote |
audiorage
: How could anyone say cornell is better than morello!!!??? Thats just wrong! And I AM SURE that chris did NOT write all the songs, maybe a few(eg.I am the highway) but tom definatly wrote most of the riffsPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:01 pm / quote |
audiorage
: EDIT* chris did NOT write the music.
sorryPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:04 pm / quote |
Cobalt Blue
: if this is true, Chris is a ****ing prick.. he probably wrote most if not all the lyrics. but he didn't write all the music. I bet he wrote the mellow acoustic pieces for sure. and maybe some other things... but the music (minus the vocals) sounds enough like Rage that you can tell the guys are major parts of the writing.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:06 pm / quote |
sleepinthefire
: I like Cornell's singing, but if this is what he's really about, then I lost most of my respect for him.
Jimmy is just trying to get on everybody's nerves with his extremeist Cornell-asslicking views. Dont listen to him. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:17 pm / quote |
axeslinger0u812
: lol...LSD anyone?
i liked the band. they had some solid songs. and since Zach went to go help his dad in mexico with revolution stuff, or whatever it was, the band had to do something in his abscence. better to keep playing than sit around waiting. and seriously, when you are looking for a singer, cornell was a nice choice. now the world is back to how it was before, and we can hopefully get some inspired music from both camps.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:18 pm / quote |
recliner33
: Chris did pretty much all of the lyrics and someone mentioned that morello did most of the music, not chris, but Chris actually wrote alot of the music as well. He probablt wrote alot of the guitar riffs, morello probanbly just did his own solos. When Chris was back in soundgarden he did most of the music also. However, if Chris did leave for the money then I lost a bit of respect for him.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:18 pm / quote |
Kozworth
: Chris's voice was going bad. Plain and simple. Listen to it back in Soundgarden and even the first Audioslave cd compared to their latest music and especially the live cd. This also explains why Chris didn't want to tour, his voice can't be protected by studio magic. What a shame...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:24 pm / quote |
rage6945
: i guess this explains why tom morello sounded less and less like himself as they continued to do audioslave albumsPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:25 pm / quote |
fireoptic
: Jimmy94 wrote:
First of all, if this is true it was about splitting the PUBLISHING RIGHTS of the songs. Not ALL of the money the group was bringing in. It's ridiculous to split publishing rights among band members that had nothing to do with songwriting. Songwriting takes a lot of hard work, why should the drummer that doesn't write anything get money out of it?
Second, I completely believe that Cornell wrote most if not all of the songs. Writing a guitar part or a solo is NOT the same as having a part in writing a song. Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway.
Seems to me like Cornell had a right to the publishing rights. |
Alright, I've never seen Cornell play anything too impressive on guitar. Can you show me some examples?POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:29 pm / quote |
flambe chicken
: Chris only wrote the lyrcs. The rest was done by Tom, Tim and Brad.
I'll miss Audioslave.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:37 pm / quote |
emr_steelmech
: Jimmy94 wrote:
First of all, if this is true it was about splitting the PUBLISHING RIGHTS of the songs. Not ALL of the money the group was bringing in. It's ridiculous to split publishing rights among band members that had nothing to do with songwriting. Songwriting takes a lot of hard work, why should the drummer that doesn't write anything get money out of it?
Second, I completely believe that Cornell wrote most if not all of the songs. Writing a guitar part or a solo is NOT the same as having a part in writing a song. Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway.
Seems to me like Cornell had a right to the publishing rights. |
Jimmy94 wrote:
SplutterBrain wrote:
Chris wrote all the music? Where were all the riffs in 7/4 then? :P
The rest of the band wouldn't be able to handle anything but standard medium tempo 4/4. I'm not asslicking Cornell, I'm just saying it how it is. He's superior to Morello in every way imaginable. | Wow...how can you think that Cornell is even half as original and inventive as Morello? No one else has a sound so signature as Morello. Thats total BS that the band can only handle "medium tempo 4/4"...granted Audioslave was like that but have you heard rage? And as far as the money from publishing rights, any real band splits everything equally. A band should be one entity, not a bunch of individuals. Thats what causes bands to break up...when people do it for themselves rather than the band. Audioslave just proved that again.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:38 pm / quote |
flambe chicken
: Please forgive the 2x post, but Jimmy94, you are an idiot. Tom Morello owns Cornell.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:38 pm / quote |
Laiwinsh
: I think its all about RATM reunion...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:40 pm / quote |
RageAgainst...
: | Chris Cornell is the best singer/guitarist/songwriter in popular music right now. I'm so happy he got away from audioslave, their musicianship was amateur at best (especially Morello), now he can get back to making better music. |
HA! you are a ****ing idiot. first of all, i'm not even gonna bother to dispute your belief that cornell is the best guitarist out there now. there is a reason morello played guitar instead of him. and to say that morello, commerford, and wilk are "amateurs at best" is just plain uneducated. you need to get your head out of mr cornell's ass and pay some ****ing attention.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:43 pm / quote |
recliner33
: fireoptic wrote:
Jimmy94 wrote:
First of all, if this is true it was about splitting the PUBLISHING RIGHTS of the songs. Not ALL of the money the group was bringing in. It's ridiculous to split publishing rights among band members that had nothing to do with songwriting. Songwriting takes a lot of hard work, why should the drummer that doesn't write anything get money out of it?
Second, I completely believe that Cornell wrote most if not all of the songs. Writing a guitar part or a solo is NOT the same as having a part in writing a song. Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway.
Seems to me like Cornell had a right to the publishing rights.
Alright, I've never seen Cornell play anything too impressive on guitar. Can you show me some examples? |
Show you examples? Listen to soundgarden, cornell play guitar in every soundgarden song along with thayill. Also Kim Thayill in my opinion is a much better guitarist then morello, he's so underrated. I hope their is a soundgarden reunion cause i don't think i'll be able to put up with cornells solo bullshit for much longer.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:45 pm / quote |
ready2breakdown
: that was a good point about the 3 cd cycle. But I consider Renegades an album though. It wasnt like it was live or anything. But I could believe Chris bitching about money. Theres no way Chris could have wrote their music. He could never make Tom Morellos sounds and shi+. I'm kinda glad they broke up, and I hope that Rage goes full force to prove his ass wrong! RATM FOR LIFE!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 03:49 pm / quote |
Rize
: "The group eventually recruited ex-Soundgarden vocalist Chris Cornell to front the band and went on to release three full lengths, which is exactly how many original studio full lengths Rage released as well."
Rage Against the Machine recorded 4 full lengths, I believe.
Self-Titled, Evil Empire, Battle of Los Angeles, Renegades...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:00 pm / quote |
audiorage
: there is no way chris is better than tom, chris is a rhythm/acoustic player and not a lead, I cant believe anyone could even suggest otherwise!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:04 pm / quote |
audiorage
: they probably didnt include Renegades because its a cover album.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:05 pm / quote |
Audiofalcon7
: What the **** is up with everyone saying Cornell is a prick when HE DIDN'T EVEN SAY IT WAS BECAUSE OF MONEY ISSUES. New York Post said that! If anything this is a RUMOR! Do you guys know what a RUMOR is?
Every Audioslave album says that all the music was written by all of them. This "source" can't be true.
QUIT TRYING TO SAY CHRIS CORNELL DID SOMETHING WHEN HE DIDN'T DO A THING! If anything all the other Audioslave members are a bunch of pricks who threw Cornell to the media in order to say they broke up.
On top of that, Rage will most likely fall into the hole of "I like their new stuff better" like every other band that broke up and re-united. I don't want Rage to make new stuff, they had a great run, let's not disturb that.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:06 pm / quote |
RockMusicFan
: No way in hell did Chris write Tom's parts. Cause if that were true, why the hell did they get together in the first place? He would of just gotten any bunch of musicians.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:10 pm / quote |
KeepDreamin
: One person said that this was tom's low when it came to his creative sounds... god you couldn't be more wrong. If you have all of the audioslave album, which i do, If you've listened to every song far enough into it that ou hear the solo and you still say that.... your insane. Revelation was actually his best stuff when it came to solos if not music in general. Yes rage had awesome and when i say awesome i mean awesome solos but audioslaves were just as good.
POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:27 pm / quote |
SynGates7X
: Haha, he expects us to believe he wrote all the music. Please. How does he explain what they all did for Rage then?POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:31 pm / quote |
guitarcontrol
: Chris and Tom should get the same share of the profits like say 30% each since they both do the main parts and create the most important stuff in their music..riffs and lyrics...while Brad and Tim get 20% cuz all they do is just go with the flow of the music.Cornell is a selfish ****, Audioslave was good but they werent the best band around.I dug their music first time i heard them but as time went on it got boooring I couldnt stand them anymore.I could listen to Cornell in soundgarden for hours and hours straight but audioslave id be buzzed out sleeping after listening to "like a stone".Im so glad they called it quits.Cornell will get much more respect and admiration if he goes solo like Johnny Cash and Bruce Springsteen earned in their careers. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:36 pm / quote |
guitarcontrol
: cornell is aa greeeeedy biiiiaaatttchh$$$!!!!
"greed caused the innocent blood to flow"POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:44 pm / quote |
forum437
: wow cornell, you are a douchebag, you are the worst element of audioslave so dont even fuccking talk, if anything, tom, brad and tim should be making more than you, im fuccking glad that you left the band, zach was ten times cooler than you...your vocals suck too POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:44 pm / quote |
scottishmob
: RockMusicFan wrote:
No way in hell did Chris write Tom's parts. Cause if that were true, why the hell did they get together in the first place? He would of just gotten any bunch of musicians. |
Yeah, man. Thats why he is now making a solo album. Duh.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:48 pm / quote |
Perforator
: You can just hear Cornell didn't write the music. If he wrote it it would contain more intro's with distorted chords like in Soundgarden and Temple of the Dog.
Plus, a Tom Morello riff can be instantly recognized due to the specific style. Most of Audioslave's songs are loaded with Morello riffs.
Something tells me this article is just bullshit.... "but sources tell the New York Post"... which sources for Christ's sake?! POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:50 pm / quote |
guitarcontrol
: who knows boys and girls..we could be expecting a sound garden rage against the machine collaboration in the future like greenday and U2(they both suckk)..bring on RAGING SLAVES AGAINST THE AUDIOMACHINE SOUNDGARDEN!!!!!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:51 pm / quote |
Walternativo
: False_God wrote:
since when is being in a band with 3 great musicians been about the money?? sad... |
since the BeatlesPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 04:54 pm / quote |
Audiofalcon7
: forum437 wrote:
wow cornell, you are a douchebag, you are the worst element of audioslave so dont even fuccking talk, if anything, tom, brad and tim should be making more than you, im fuccking glad that you left the band, zach was ten times cooler than you...your vocals suck too |
Because Chris Cornell can talk about actual life instead of saying "FUCCK THE GOVERNMENT!" 24/7 with meh rapping, his vocals automatically suck? Because he can talk about something MORE than politics and "the man" and make clear perfect sense of everything, his vocals suck? You sir, are a dumbass.
Rage is awesome, sure, but so was Soundgarden. On top of that, you don't seem to realize that this article has a 90% chance of being bullshit. The media keeps on making Cornell being a prick because Tom Morello, Timmy C., and Brad Wilk all threw him there to announce their breaking up.
Quit being damn retards and start thinking for a few seconds.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:03 pm / quote |
Lunartick
: I'm not sure about Cornell writing all the music, as the guitar parts sound VERY Morello, although I would believe they probably split the duties (and I'm sure Chris did write all the lyrics).
Either way, people need to take this article with a grain of salt; this just reeks of media-induced tabloid-esque drama.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:14 pm / quote |
sum41freak8733
: why do people care about who gets more money when people sign MULTIMILLION DOLLAR contracts the fact that you get to write awsome music and get that kind of money is pretty sick hell id be happy with anything in the millions as long as i still enjoy writing the music so chris stop your whining its hard to belive you wrote everything POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:25 pm / quote |
6strung
: If thats true its totally b.s. on chris' part. Tom, Tim and Brad shit platinum!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:30 pm / quote |
stars_n_bars
: FUCK YOU CORNELL!!!!! man i looked up to you FUCK YOU SELLOUT!!!!!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:32 pm / quote |
Audiofalcon7
: stars_n_bars wrote:
FUCK YOU CORNELL!!!!! man i looked up to you FUCK YOU SELLOUT!!!!! |
He isn't a sellout.... do I have to explain this shit all over again?!?POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:37 pm / quote |
jahyarain
: good lord in hell...i swear, it's so easy to make people believe ANYTHING! Chris has been writing music since the rest of that horrible band was still in diapers. and, no, he didn't write all of their music. i doubt he's capable of writing anything that God-awful.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:51 pm / quote |
SOADrox429
: As said before, by many people, it is obvious that Chris did not write the music, maybe the lyrics, but not the music. However, if this is true, which I strongly doubt, then he should just be grateful to get to play with those guys, and the money shouldn't have mattered that much... to any of themPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 05:57 pm / quote |
Stratocaster88
: Jimmy94 you ****ing assmunch!
watch some of Audioslave's ****ing live videos see who's doing those incredible solos!
Even if Cornell is good at guitar, compared to Morello, he sucks ass!!
and another example tro back me up?
Tom Morello went on guitar world mag and shows the technique to make those awesoem sounds!
ya...let that one sink in a little...
by the way...what would a band be with just guitar or just drums or just sining?
crap! so even if he did write the lyrics without morello, commorford and the drummer he would get nowhere!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:08 pm / quote |
RadioMuse
: Chris wrote all of the lyrics, that's certainly not everything... If it was solo projects by singers *cough* would be everybit as good as works by full bands.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:09 pm / quote |
Felda
: If Cornell truly did write the all the music (which I doubt he did, especially on Revelations with all of Morello's batshit loco solos), then he has every right to complain about percentages. Following along without writing any of the music does not give you an automatic even cut from profits.
Take Nirvana for example. Cobain made at least 75% of the profits, which he earned by creating almost all the lyrics and the majority of the instrumentals. Grohl and Krist split the rest. Nirvana lasted despite the uneven cuts, only to be halted by Cobain's suicide.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:19 pm / quote |
recliner33
: Felda wrote:
If Cornell truly did write the all the music (which I doubt he did, especially on Revelations with all of Morello's batshit loco solos), then he has every right to complain about percentages. Following along without writing any of the music does not give you an automatic even cut from profits.
Take Nirvana for example. Cobain made at least 75% of the profits, which he earned by creating almost all the lyrics and the majority of the instrumentals. Grohl and Krist split the rest. Nirvana lasted despite the uneven cuts, only to be halted by Cobain's suicide. |
Yeah and despite that 25% share from dave and krist, they still got a deal, because kurt wrote like 95% of the songs and 95% of the music. All those drum beats and bass lines you hear in a nirvana song was written my Kurt.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:25 pm / quote |
gwitersnamps
: | he wrote all the music, yet the other three bandmates took an equal share in the multimillion-dollar publishing rights. |
Riiiiight.
He ran out of junk money.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:34 pm / quote |
santhony1987
: I know that off the last album, Cornell arranged all the music for "until We Fall" and "Nothing Left To Say But Goodbye". But apart from those 2...POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:48 pm / quote |
Hooyahman
: Don't you hate it when people you look up to turn out to be jerks? I mean who cares. Make it about the friggin music not about the money.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:56 pm / quote |
reggie1975
: Did any of you actually read the article? Its about publishing rights, not perfomance rights...music is a bussiness lets not forget that people.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 06:58 pm / quote |
AudioInjctdSoul
: what a prick...he's making multi-millions anyway, for mediocre music. kind of like how pro athletes ask for millions of dollars in contract extensions when they're already making more than their whole family combined, ten-fold.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:00 pm / quote |
recliner33
: One of the big problems of bands is who gets what in the share of the profits. I believe that they should be split equally amoung band members, but that doesn’t mean they should have and equal share in writing music and lyric cause some are better than others and writing shouldn’t be forced upon by other band members. A way to make up for this would be to have the guys contributing less to perhaps do more back up vocals or to do more band interviews or stuff for the media. Or even do small things like take the lower bunk on the tour bus or screw the ugliest of the roadies to allow the other band members to have the hotter ones. Like look at the band Rush for example, I don’t know if they split their money equally(I’m pretty sure that they do though) but they contribute equally. Neil Peart does all the drumming and most of the lyrics, Geddy Lee does all the bass playing and singing and Alex Lifeson does all the guitar playing and does most of the interviews and stuff and is usually the spokesperson for the band. While Neal Peart hardly does any interviews or talks to the media cause he doesn’t like doing it but he contributes with his lyrics and kickass drumming. Audioslave should be a lesson for bands by saying that everyone should contribute equally and if that happens it should result in equal profits. Chris Cornell was the workhorse for audioslave and his ego got too high so he wanted more money, but it led to their break up. Now whats left for the guys to do is to have a rage against the machine and soundgarden world tour with a few audioslave songs in between sets. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:04 pm / quote |
Klayy
: god dammit
sources say
so what?
it's probably not even true
they are just getting older and changing their attitudes and opinions so they don't quite want to play together
it happensPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:12 pm / quote |
JimmyPage2247
: who...
cares...
audioslave no longer exists, i'm happy.
long live ratm POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:32 pm / quote |
astrocreep71
: according to the way publishing works, if you write the lyrics you get half. If you write the music you get half. So, if one person writes the lyrics, and three others write the music, the lyricist gets 50% and the rest get 50%. So if 3 people write the music, that's one-third of 50% or roughly a little over 16% each. Chris Cornell being a songwriter, probably wrote at least the backing music. Maybe not the riffs, but more than likely the bassline for most of their songs. Anyway, that being said, if they entered an agreement between themselves, written or spoken, to equally split the money, then that should be honored.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:38 pm / quote |
mckay21
: The kids strike again. Improvising a solo does not count as writing a song. Especially with the way Morello admits Audioslave songs were rehearsed and written. The songs were done before the solos even went in. It wasn't like he wrote some great solo without a song and then they wrote a song around it.
I think it's pretty obvious with the first two albums.
The debut was a bunch of RATM riffs that were lying around and a couple of Cornell songs (I am the highway and Getaway Car are almost certainly written by Cornell) and the second album, imo, was predominantly Cornell. Listen to the back end of that album and tell me Morello had a whole lot to do with it other than making weird noises with his guitar and slapping an unplugged cable while stomping a wah.
So, you could make a case that he wrote more than 50% of the music, you could make a case he's a pompous cliche now, you could make a case this is the exact same thing that happened to Soundgarden. (Cornell consolidated the writing as it went along) But, it's so funny to watch you all get so angry.
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theduke92
: guitarcontrol wrote:
Brad and Tim get 20% cuz all they do is just go with the flow of the music. |
Or maybe not. Maybe you just don't respect their talent. Maybe you are being incredibly Ignorant. Maybe they should all get an equal amount, like all bands should.
I for one look at Brad Wilk as one of my idols, he got me into drumming. First song I ever learned was "Killing in the Name". Tim is really cool too, though I dont really look up to him. Both are incredibly underrated, Brad moreso than Tim.
Everyone in a band contributes, therefore they all get equal share. If Tim isnt so good at writing (just an example) then he shouldnt be expected to write more than his own parts. As long as the members are giving the band all they can they should be treated accordingly. I dont even know if this is real, but if it is, Im incredibly disappointed at Cornell.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:50 pm / quote |
metalneck
: I guess when you make millions every cent counts. He's got his kids to feed and gas prices are outrageous!!!!!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 07:53 pm / quote |
BlueZephyr
: How can you complain about money when your earning more than most people make in 3-4 years (even longer probably)?! Well, money does make people selfish :|POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 08:01 pm / quote |
EMT911
: Sheesh, you mean communists like Tom Morello fight over money? Wow - starting to sound like a closeted capitalist. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 08:04 pm / quote |
Lund27J
: Cornell sucks. Plain and Simple.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 08:09 pm / quote |
birdman267
: Finally Audioslave is DONE!
Hopefully this means a RAGE U.S. Tour.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 08:19 pm / quote |
vIsIbleNoIsE
: he has a nice voice, but this is awfully greedy of himPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 08:26 pm / quote |
DaveDaThrasha
: guitarcontrol wrote:
who knows boys and girls..we could be expecting a sound garden rage against the machine collaboration in the future like greenday and U2(they both suckk)..bring on RAGING SLAVES AGAINST THE AUDIOMACHINE SOUNDGARDEN!!!!! |
that would be most disgusting... i cant see zach and chris on the same stage. itd be like some sick love triangle, and theyd get in a fist fight halfway through in which case Zach, being the deft revolutionary that he is, would totally kick chris cornells ass.... hmm... on second thought, thatd be pretty freakin funnyPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 08:29 pm / quote |
silencesoloud
: even if what cornell said is true, what was keeping him from going solo once Soundgarden was done? because there's only one Tom Morello, who is one of the most astounding modern guitarists around, not to mention the fantastic rhythm section with Wilk and Commerford. Arrogant prick. And I hate his little moustache. POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:01 pm / quote |
xXSolitaryManXx
: The New York Post is a tabloid posing as a newspaper. Check your sources before you believe the b.s.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:06 pm / quote |
KingSquall802
: some sort of money love here.
cant believe this one.
thought that its just their musical differences.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:09 pm / quote |
emr_steelmech
: guitarcontrol wrote:
who knows boys and girls..we could be expecting a sound garden rage against the machine collaboration in the future like greenday and U2(they both suckk)..bring on RAGING SLAVES AGAINST THE AUDIOMACHINE SOUNDGARDEN!!!!! | You can put the words from these 3 bands' names in any random order and it sounds hilarious.
AUDIO SOUNDS OF THE SLAVE AGAINST THE GARDEN RAGE MACHINE FOREVER!!!!!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:13 pm / quote |
morello_man
: Cornell did not write all the music.
Secondly, Cornell went solo before, and that album was flopped. He had drug issues short afterwards too.
Third: Cornell pales into comparison to Morello on guitar.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:21 pm / quote |
Lotz222
: This story is 99.8% bullshit. If u listen to Chris's first solo and then all of Audioslave's music there is no way Chris came up with the riffs, baseline and beats. He did the lyrics and put his 2 cents but no way in hell did he write most of the music.
P.S. DaveDaThrasha i would pay money to see them fight. I like both of them but that would be Hilarious!! JERRY SPRINGER (ROCKSTAR EDITION)!!!!! POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:22 pm / quote |
Mud Martian
: People go crazy over mere rumors.
As far as I'm concerned, Chris Cornell deserves the cash, if this is true. After all he has done in the past twenty years . . . Hey I love Rage, but **** 'em, really. They are revolutionaries. Why do they care about the money so much? Need it for RPGs, maybe? Chris Cornell has the right to be greedy just like the rest of us do. And he's a brilliant musician and vocalist, regardless of what the Rage fanatics think.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:26 pm / quote |
wideawake
: Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway.
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LMAOPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:28 pm / quote |
KyleB2007
: This comment is for Jimmy94... Haha you think Cornell is the best musician/songwriter? Dont get me wrong i'm a fan of Chris but if you want to throw that strong of a comment around you should really think about it. Mark Tremonti has Cornell beat completely in both those fields. He writes ALL music for Alterbridge, not to mention that he is easily in the top greatest guitarists. Oh and by the way dude if you think Cornell is the better guitarist then why is it he only plays guitar on like 1 song "I am the Highway" which is what? like 4 chords...i see ur point completely.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:30 pm / quote |
Metalology
: Dump Audioslave and start Rage again!!POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 09:39 pm / quote |
sweatersdotcom
: I don't see why everyone thinks Chris Cornell is so brilliant. I mean, sure, Rage Against the Machine is pretty good and Soundgarden is one of the bands I grew up with (like, around age 10), but overall he's just... mediocre. Nothing he does stands out. Audioslave might as well be Nickelback or Three Day's Grace or any other disposable shit. It's just not memorable. Calling him the greatest singer/songwriter of our time is a gross overstatement.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 10:06 pm / quote |
metal@hart11
: | Mark Tremonti has Cornell beat completely in both those fields. |
the creed guitarist doesnt come close to the writing skills of cornell. and its not like he sings either. he plays a mean guitar which is sick, but thats not what cornell does. why would you compare the legend cornell to the guitarist from creed?POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 10:07 pm / quote |
primusucks
: how about i dont buy ur ****in cd chris and ill buy tom's. ill download urs and give it away as burnt copies to everyone.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 10:11 pm / quote |
DoctorFu
: primusucks wrote:
how about i dont buy ur ****in cd chris and ill buy tom's. ill download urs and give it away as burnt copies to everyone. |
I'll join you.POSTED: 02/28/2007 - 10:34 pm / quote |
blaue Augen
: Folks, the new york post is hardly a credible source.
And who cares? Honestly. Let the guy be, and I hope RATM doesn't go on tour. They had a good run, and I think we've heard enough of Zach's politics.
As much as I love Cornell, I gotta say tom is better in terms of skill. Cornell is an excellent rythmn, while tom is more or less lead. I still think morello needs to lay off the effect abuse.
It's probably nothing more than a middle-school esque rumor. HehPOSTED: 02/28/2007 - 11:18 pm / quote |
Merge
: Mynabull wrote:
SELL OUT!!!! Whatever happened to music you can actually feel and relate to Chris? |
The guy isn't going to work for free. I think everyone should learn what "sellout" means.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 12:02 am / quote |
Merge
: "SELLOUT"- Doing something you wouldn't normally do for profit or gain.
So, how did he sell out??POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 12:03 am / quote |
m
: Calm down people.
Checked.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 12:43 am / quote |
Guitar_Poet
: metal@hart11 wrote:
Mark Tremonti has Cornell beat completely in both those fields.
the creed guitarist doesnt come close to the writing skills of cornell. and its not like he sings either. he plays a mean guitar which is sick, but thats not what cornell does. why would you compare the legend cornell to the guitarist from creed? |
listen to Alter Bridge, tard.. he wails. I'm not sure about singing, but Tremonti is a great guitarist. Not the best, but he's pretty goddamn good.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 02:17 am / quote |
Guitar_Poet
: Merge wrote:
Mynabull wrote:
SELL OUT!!!! Whatever happened to music you can actually feel and relate to Chris?
The guy isn't going to work for free. I think everyone should learn what "sellout" means. |
lol... no, he just wants 8 million instead of 4...POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 02:18 am / quote |
J Dub
: I somehow doubt Cornell wrote all the music. The lyrics, maybe. But those riffs scream Tom Morello.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 02:21 am / quote |
Pearson
: Unless your a cover band everyone inputs to the music. I doubt Chris came up with Toms Solos.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 02:36 am / quote |
guitarcontrol
: emr_steelmech wrote:
guitarcontrol wrote:
who knows boys and girls..we could be expecting a sound garden rage against the machine collaboration in the future like greenday and U2(they both suckk)..bring on RAGING SLAVES AGAINST THE AUDIOMACHINE SOUNDGARDEN!!!!! You can put the words from these 3 bands' names in any random order and it sounds hilarious.
AUDIO SOUNDS OF THE SLAVE AGAINST THE GARDEN RAGE MACHINE FOREVER!!!!! |
lmao...how bout...
RAGING AUDIO SOUNDMACHINE OF THE SLAVE AGAINST THE GARDEN IN THE TEMPLE OF THE DOG!!!!FOREVER!
i wanna hear zack de la rocha do the vocals on "original fire". i never liked that song at all..cornells voice just didnt fit with morellos modern geetar riffage..i think zack's version would kick cornells version.
POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 02:44 am / quote |
TheRolingStoner
: what ever happened to the music who cares about moneyPOSTED: 03/01/2007 - 03:13 am / quote |
k0ns0l3
: Yeah... And Cornell must be also able to play that funky bass the same way Tim plays it...
I don't even like that much audioslave but Tom Morello is a very good guitar player and Cornell... He's not bad but he isn't nearly as good.
I think it's more than obvious that everyone rights there parts in the song... I'm sick and tired of singers thinking they are great and sooo important. They're not.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 03:39 am / quote |
TheRolingStoner
: to right cornell thinks his top shit buts his not his just a gronkPOSTED: 03/01/2007 - 04:22 am / quote |
rak en rol
: audioslave is cool, but i really want zack the rest of the guys to get back together and kick some ass againPOSTED: 03/01/2007 - 04:47 am / quote |
dann_blood
: Just media working up a storm. Its like when someone cracks a papparazzi guy over the head for him taking pictures - its always the person who hits them whos in the wrong.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 06:12 am / quote |
m
: i would have thought in a band you all do the work and play the same shows, etc. its all equal, or it would be for me.
checkedPOSTED: 03/01/2007 - 06:50 am / quote |
ollerom_mot
: I can't really see Cornell genuinely leaving a band because of financial reasons, it's not like he'd need it. And who are the 'sources'? I could've made it up for all anyone knows *looks shifty* Whether it's true or not, I imagine, being the socialist bastions they are, Morello, Commerford and Wilk wouldn't have the money dealt out any other way. Besides the who wrote what thing is a load of shite: 'Lyrics by Chris Cornell / All songs writeen and arranged by Audioslave' - taken from Revelations liner notes. So there :PPOSTED: 03/01/2007 - 07:13 am / quote |
Dingoman
: i dont know whether the split was about RAGE or diffrences or money,but if we really are getting RAGE back then thats fine by me.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 07:21 am / quote |
m
: Meh, sucks if it's true, but does he really think he's going to make more money from his solo career than from Audioslave?POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 07:44 am / quote |
HavokStrife
: If Chris wrote Audioslave's stuff, it would explain why it's why more basic and, well, lame and dragging, compared to Rage.
But either way, is he tracking all the instruments in the studio? Is he going out and doing a one man Audioslave tour? No, I mean all of their publicity in the first place was because it's "the new Rage band."
What an ass.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 08:30 am / quote |
Boy Wonder
: If cornell wrote the lyrics...that's 50% of the song so he should get paid 50% of the songwriting and publishing royalties. If it's true that he wrote all the songs then he should get 100% of the songwriting and publishing royalties. Writing a gutiar part isn't the same as writing a song.
I don't think it's about greed as much as it is entitlement. Would you want to split your paycheck with someone else if you're doing all or most of the work...probably not. POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 09:21 am / quote |
gtsz320
: HavokStrife :
If Chris wrote Audioslave's stuff, it would explain why it's why more basic and, well, lame and dragging, compared to Rage.
Gotta agree with you. But I think Audioslave's message was a lot different than Rage's. I mean, if Morello went out with the drummer and bassist and recruited a new lead singer and still called it "Rage Against The Machine", people would complain it wasn't the same. Delarocha (or whatever it is) is one of a kind.
But that doesn't matter. Rage will be back.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 09:46 am / quote |
XVentura
: Tbh, I think Cornell has a right to more than a 1/4 if he actually did write all the songs and lyrics. It is HIS work afterall.POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 10:42 am / quote |
Audiofalcon7
: DancingDays wrote:
what a loser |
Ignorant piece of crap who has no idea what in the world you're talking about. *sighs heavily again*POSTED: 03/01/2007 - 05:33 pm / quote |
xLoGit3k
: Wow you guys its true chris did write most of the music. You can tell its mostly all of his work. Yes morello probably did write his own solos but should chris suffer pay just because morello wrote a few solos? NO. If you were chris what would you have done? Plus every member of soundgarden was better and more talented than rage you can just tell in the musicPOSTED: 03/06/2007 - 10:19 am / quote |
Eamon Fethers
: wtf, morrello is a genius, and for christ sake wat is cornell whinging about, that he's not gettin enuf money... its millions and million of dollars!!! i'd be greatful just 2 have a couple of grand!
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Bass 13
: I like rage's musics alot better than audioslave ive listened to almost all of both bands music.. but there is no way in hell that cornell is even near morello's guitar skill. RATM!!!POSTED: 06/01/2007 - 10:39 pm / quote |
Thrall
: I don't know who wrote this messed up article, but the comment about writing all the music was made in reference to why he quit SOUNDGASRDEN, not AUDIOSLAVE. Tom wrote the guitar riffs, Chris wrote the lyrics, Tim came up with kick-ass bass lines and Brad played the awesome beats. Chris counts as exactly 1/4 of the writing process if you ask me. So check where the quote came from and don't post it if it's not RELEVANT.POSTED: 11/08/2007 - 11:39 am / quote |
Thrall
: Jimmy94 wrote:
First of all, if this is true it was about splitting the PUBLISHING RIGHTS of the songs. Not ALL of the money the group was bringing in. It's ridiculous to split publishing rights among band members that had nothing to do with songwriting. Songwriting takes a lot of hard work, why should the drummer that doesn't write anything get money out of it?
Second, I completely believe that Cornell wrote most if not all of the songs. Writing a guitar part or a solo is NOT the same as having a part in writing a song. Cornell is a much better guitarist than Morello anyway.
Seems to me like Cornell had a right to the publishing rights. |
Well if Cornell's such an accomplished musician, why didn't he record everything as well. I've never heard or seen Chris play a note above the 7th fret, let alone the solo for Your Time Has Come. Not that he's a bad guitar player, but Morello is much better, even taking into account their difference of styles. Plus, most if not all of the riffs that Audioslave played had the signature Tom Morello sound to them. Listen to Cornell's new album, Carry On. He's worth alot less without the Auioslave guys behind him on stage.POSTED: 11/13/2007 - 11:28 am / quote |
con job
: | Thrall wrote:Well if Cornell's such an accomplished musician, why didn't he record everything as well. I've never heard or seen Chris play a note above the 7th fret, let alone the solo for Your Time Has Come. Not that he's a bad guitar player, but Morello is much better, even taking into account their difference of styles. Plus, most if not all of the riffs that Audioslave played had the signature Tom Morello sound to them. Listen to Cornell's new album, Carry On. He's worth alot less without the Auioslave guys behind him on stage. |
You're right, Chris is a good songwriter and all but I've never seen anything to prove he's a great guitar, let alone a better one than Morello.If this is true, he's gone way down in my estimations.
And there's no way he wrote the instrumentation of their songs, Audioslave sound too much like RATM for that part to be believeable.POSTED: 12/23/2007 - 07:39 am / quote |
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