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Avenged Sevenfold Frontman Takes Axl Rose's Side

artist: avenged sevenfold date: 03/17/2006 category: general music news
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Avenged Sevenfold Frontman Takes Axl Rose's Side

According to Splat, Avenged Sevenfold frontman M. Shadows has spoken out in support of Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose in his war of words with his former Guns bandmates and Velvet Revolver singer Scott Weiland.

Rose lambasted Velvet Revolver bassist Duff McKagan and guitarist Slash, claiming that the latter called Weiland a "fraud" and McKagan "spineless" in an early morning meeting at Rose's house last year. Weiland, in turn, called Rose a "fat, Botox-faced, wig-wearin' fuck." Scott wrote that Rose had an "unoriginal, uncreative little mind, the same mind that had to rely on its bandmates to write melodies and lyrics ? who's the fraud now?"

Commented M. Shadows, "I feel Axl is a better singer, Guns N' Roses was a better band. Stone Temple Pilots wasn't ever close to that status. Axl was nothing but a nice, down-to-earth, great guy to talk to when I met him. Very respectful and generous, taking pictures with everyone and just seemed to be having a good time."

Avenged Sevenfold are set to support Guns N' Roses on some of their forthcoming European dates this summer, reported Blabbermouth.net.

In other news, Avenged Sevenfold, widely believed to be the yet-to-be-named "mystery" band on Ozzfest this summer, are keeping silence about their involvement. However, guitarist Zacky Vengeance told Launch that the group is excited about what it's got in store for June, after finishing a U.S. run with Coheed And Cambria. "After we get back from Coheed, we're thinking that we need to go back to Europe because we want to be a band that takes over the world and doesn't leave any uncharted territory," he said. "So we actually got offered to tour with just about our favorite band in the history of the world in Europe for the month of June. I think we're gonna be going out with Metallica as their main support."

POSTED: 03/17/2006 - 07:38 am
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comments policy  68  comments posted, 3 removed | this article is 96% spam-free
     
rockontilludie wrote on 03/17/2006 - 07:44 am / quote |
well ofcourse your gonna side with Axl, you need the publicity dont you M?

im not here to point fingers but in my opinion, Axl probably shoulda handled this shit better, and Scott sounds bitter. he soulda let Axl worked this shit out between Duff, Slash, and Axl.
     
TeenBite wrote on 03/17/2006 - 08:00 am / quote |
1)I've heard less petty fights in nurseries,
2)Shock horror, M. Shadows approves of the people he's touring with.
     
Trellis wrote on 03/17/2006 - 08:23 am / quote |
TeenBite wrote:

1)I've heard less petty fights in nurseries,
2)Shock horror, M. Shadows approves of the people he's touring with.

...exactly! hes obviously going to side with axl because avenged sevenfold are supporting guns.
     
jontrem wrote on 03/17/2006 - 09:24 am / quote |
and i thought just the other day there was this article on him not wanting to diss other bands. should've just gone on in support of GNR and not mention STP. but well...
     
GnRrelease_it wrote on 03/17/2006 - 10:03 am / quote |
all true.
     
METSOAD wrote on 03/17/2006 - 10:59 am / quote |
Axl is an fool and scott weiland should not get involved
     
METSOAD wrote on 03/17/2006 - 11:00 am / quote |
M Shadows is a crap singer, the rest of the band are much better than him
     
November_Rain88 wrote on 03/17/2006 - 11:23 am / quote |
I don't like A7X, but I agree with him. Axl > Scott...
     
Faggio wrote on 03/17/2006 - 11:31 am / quote |
I would just stay out of it, next week you'll see Scott with something like "You screaming, whiny little bitch this has nothing to do with you it's about my band and Axl Rose"
     
deadlyminista wrote on 03/17/2006 - 12:16 pm / quote |
These clowns are starting to sound like rappers with all the dissin. They're all just trying to stay in the news.
     
nineinch9 wrote on 03/17/2006 - 12:50 pm / quote |
Didn't UG have an article like 2 days ago saying that M. Shadows or anyone else in A7X wasn't going to get involved in trash talking other bands anymore. I like A7X, but that's not really helping the respect level.
     
EpitaphMan440 wrote on 03/17/2006 - 02:17 pm / quote |
I actuallity there was no trash talking, he was just saying axl is a better singer(much great vocal range and dynamics), which he is, and when GnR was in it's hayday where much bigger the STP in thiers. No trash talking, just truths...
     
INNOCENT VICTIM wrote on 03/17/2006 - 02:39 pm / quote |
M. Shadows is not that good of a singer and his lyrics are;nt that metal. I think Axl's just doing this because he's jelous of Slash's new and very successful band.VR And i think the only reason he's with him is because first impressoins. I hope their not the mystery band because i've heard heavier. I wonder if Bullet For My Valentine is on Ozzfest
     
lalalama2 wrote on 03/17/2006 - 02:51 pm / quote |
Rose called Weiland a "fraud" and McKagan "spineless" in an early morning meeting at Rose's house last year. Weiland, in turn, called Rose a "fat, Botox-faced, wig-wearin' ****." Scott wrote that Rose had an "unoriginal, uncreative little mind, the same mind that had to rely on its bandmates to write melodies and lyrics ? who's the fraud now?"

god this is getting out of hand it sounds like a couple of kids who are to afraid to fight but would rather insult people
and why tha F**K does any1 Give a Shit what M. Shadows says hes not even in GnR or velvet revolver

and yesterday i thoughthe said hed stop saying shit about other bands well its been a day and he couldnt help himself way 2 go m. Shadows u get the idiot of the week award
     
lalalama2 wrote on 03/17/2006 - 02:55 pm / quote |
Axl was nothing but a nice, down-to-earth, great guy to talk to when I met him. Very respectful and generous
ha ha ha generous he fought with just about everyone from motley crue to metallica kind of like avenged sevenfold is now
     
 jj1565   m   wrote on 03/17/2006 - 03:19 pm / quote |
*anti-spam check
     
zebrahead234 wrote on 03/17/2006 - 03:27 pm / quote |
deadlyminista :
These clowns are starting to sound like rappers with all the dissin. They're all just trying to stay in the news.

so true its scary
     
KerazyPhool wrote on 03/17/2006 - 06:41 pm / quote |
deadlyminista wrote:

These clowns are starting to sound like rappers with all the dissin. They're all just trying to stay in the news.


Agreed. Everybody has gotta have the last word nowadays, even the people who arent in the slightest involved
     
FS Guitar wrote on 03/17/2006 - 06:42 pm / quote |
1) i think that statement was blown WAY out of proportion, Guns is just one of A7X's main influences so its natural shadows would side with axl, especially because of the tour
2)nobody can put all the blame on axl or VR because they're both just being a bunch of dickheads about all of this instead of being a little respectful and keeping it out of the media
3)NO WAY IN HELL IS AXL ROSE "DOWN TO EARTH"
3)
     
mackdaddy wrote on 03/17/2006 - 09:21 pm / quote |
that's hardly taking his side. he just stated a fact, STP wasnt huge.
     
Twist of Cain wrote on 03/17/2006 - 10:03 pm / quote |
G N' R were great dont get me wronge but STP was badass when they came out. STP didnt take 13 years to make A CD, did they? i dont think they did.
     
Voxel Mitosis wrote on 03/17/2006 - 10:14 pm / quote |
what kind of stupid name is m. shadows
     
manthtscrazy wrote on 03/17/2006 - 10:43 pm / quote |
man thats crazy GNR is awesome but axl is crazy
Voxel Mitosis :
what kind of stupid name is m. shadows
ya hes write wht kinda name is that
     
Noosie wrote on 03/18/2006 - 12:10 am / quote |
M.Shadows is probably one of the worst singers ive ever heard come about in recent years but i really like the rest of the band.

Axl is a far better singer than Weiland I was never a STP fan because of Weiland i just dont like him but i like Axl for some reason
     
 jj1565   m   wrote on 03/18/2006 - 08:29 am / quote |
*anti spam check
     
Geekis_Khan wrote on 03/18/2006 - 09:33 am / quote |
Axl is an fool and scott weiland should not get involved


Technically, Axl called Scott a fraud first, so Scott was just defending himself. Not saying that the whole thing isn't stupid, just saying that Scott has a right to stick up for himself.

GNR was an awesome band, but Axl is one of the worst singers in history. Sorry, but it's true. He should've just stuck to writing lyrics.

Scott Weiland > Axl Rose
Velvet Revolver > Guns 'n' Roses
Slash = God
     
SlashNX wrote on 03/18/2006 - 09:45 am / quote |
Avenged Sevenfold can get ****ed! Like Scott there is absolutely no need for them to get involved in this arguement. and its purely just for publicity! Because they think theyre the most dangerous band in the world! Fuckin Bed-wetters!
     
TheNthDimension wrote on 03/18/2006 - 10:09 am / quote |
EpitaphMan440 wrote:

I actuallity there was no trash talking, he was just saying axl is a better singer
Thus subtly putting down Scott. He's not trash talking, but he means the same thing. Fair point about Stone Temple Pilots though, GNR were more famous for a reason...
     
JimiOwnsYou21 wrote on 03/18/2006 - 10:21 am / quote |
I really don't think you can compare Stone Temple Pilots and GnR, they're kinda on the opposite sides of rock, ya know? STP were kinda underground...ish... and GnR were more mainstream.
     
inunion wrote on 03/18/2006 - 12:18 pm / quote |
avenged sevenfold is probably one of the worst bands in the world
     
ragemachine2112 wrote on 03/18/2006 - 01:01 pm / quote |
Tomorrows argument

Metallica calls axl an idiot who should go away before they tell his mommy
     
 jj1565   m   wrote on 03/18/2006 - 03:55 pm / quote |
eternalrest999 wrote:
some of you are so stupid.***so stfu idiots..

*post deleted.
     
lespaul_rentals wrote on 03/18/2006 - 03:56 pm / quote |
Someone's looking for a bit of media attention...

if my band sucked as bad as Avenged one way i could get attention would be to talk about the Axl/Slash argument. and of course UG makes it big news.
     
eternalrest999 wrote on 03/18/2006 - 05:15 pm / quote |
dude it was just an answer to a question that a fan asked on their message board. he's not trying to get media attention some idiot just saw it and blew it out of proportion. a7x are good. god. people are dumb.
     
jimmcs2000 wrote on 03/18/2006 - 05:18 pm / quote |
these old guys are out of the spotlite and afraid to fight. Remember the axl vince neil thing way back. calling each other out and axl can't make it? Publicity sells records. They're all good in their own rite, they just seem not to get along. STP was pretty ****ing big though (not gnr big). Weiland is a cool mother****er.420
     
HardAttack wrote on 03/18/2006 - 06:30 pm / quote |
M. Shadows can suck it. STP was much better than GnR in my oppinion. I may have a GnR album, but it's really for laughs and nostalgia. I can't stand to listen to Axl sing for more than 4 minutes straight to the same song. Weiland however, I loved the album No. 4. STP was a good, solid group.
     
 jj1565   m   wrote on 03/18/2006 - 11:14 pm / quote |
cryingblood wrote:
You are all idiots...


*post deleted, no flaming.
     
genresrforposer wrote on 03/19/2006 - 02:50 am / quote |
duff mckagan sez sumthing ("let's just make music")
n then a whole other band comes in n starts this crap again.
     
gnr_fan_17 wrote on 03/19/2006 - 06:41 am / quote |
What's the big deal with A7X. They're actually pretty good and a lot better than the other dumbass mainstream bands. STP was never as big as GnR, face it. Without Slash, Duff and Matt, no one would have cared about Velvet Revolver.
     
mosh_it_up wrote on 03/19/2006 - 09:45 am / quote |
GN'R are good but come on get out of the playground
     
CodyJuice wrote on 03/19/2006 - 11:44 am / quote |
STP is way better of a band then A7X (even though i like them) and GnR...but on the topic of Weiland and Axl fighting like this...they just both need to shut the hell up...cuz its getting nowhere
     
Peterjs wrote on 03/19/2006 - 02:37 pm / quote |
M. Shadows thinks he's so cool, but really, he's in just another metal band...

I take Slashe's side.
     
-spiderman- wrote on 03/19/2006 - 03:15 pm / quote |
Mister Shadows needs to realize that the only reason he is where he is today is because he has a couple of amazing guitarists that pull all of the weight. Kind of interesting because Axl still hasn't figured out that Slash pulled all of the weight for him as well.
A7X is incredible but they need to stop all of their crap before anyone is going to take them seriously.
     
winocide wrote on 03/19/2006 - 06:12 pm / quote |
i think i read that shadows' vocal coach is axels old coach.. maybe thats why he felt he had to say something...lol.. hes connected..
but yeah, axels a great singer, but i bet he couldnt solo and write like slash..
     
winocide wrote on 03/19/2006 - 06:13 pm / quote |
my opinion doesn't mean anything..
     
slash_41 wrote on 03/19/2006 - 07:54 pm / quote |
Slash_41 :
im a really huge fan of a7x but thats total bullshit of what shadow said.. Axl cant sing for shit. axl nd scott rnt the bestest singers but scott is better than axl..nd axl was jus probably bein nice cuz there gonna tour together if not axl would probably a jack-ass. and to the comment that G N'R is a better band well no shit Velvet Revolver only has ONE cd.. nd its stupid how a7x says that G N'R is a band they like and yet he agreein with only axl about a statement about thrashing other members in the band that so called "influenced" them.
     
MurderByNumb3rs wrote on 03/19/2006 - 10:33 pm / quote |
I agree this feud does seem a little ridiculous. But this site has very misleading and frankly pretty pointless news articles. Shadows was not talking shit about either. Those quotes came from the avenged sevenfold forums where you can ask the band questions and they will answer. A fan simply asked who he supported and Shadows answered. It wasnt meant to be a big publicity stunt or diss. He was just answering a fan. And they also didn't say all of Shadows' quotes. After stating that he supported Axl he said this "That being said, I think Scott is great and I love the Velvet Revolver record." See, you guys really need to do your research. And I do think that this site does like to start feuds or controversy.
     
Peterjs wrote on 03/19/2006 - 11:20 pm / quote |
Someone just got 0wned
     
xmurderoticax wrote on 03/19/2006 - 11:23 pm / quote |
They're both like 5 year old school girls, end of discussion.
     
 jj1565   m   wrote on 03/20/2006 - 08:53 am / quote |
*spam check
     
Satyr1378 wrote on 03/20/2006 - 08:57 am / quote |
Axl Rose is quite possibly one of the best frontmen of all time,.. Scott Weiland has to do something because he can't even touch that title,... sadly all he can do is be a little bitch,.. Actions speak louder.
     
evilmetalboy wrote on 03/20/2006 - 09:39 am / quote |
lalalama2 wrote:

Axl was nothing but a nice, down-to-earth, great guy to talk to when I met him. Very respectful and generous
ha ha ha generous he fought with just about everyone from motley crue to metallica kind of like avenged sevenfold is now


yeah, really! vince neil should've kicked axls ass a LONG time ago, but axl pussed out...

The guitarists in A7X kick ass, but m. shadows is officially a douche.
     
evilmetalboy wrote on 03/20/2006 - 09:44 am / quote |
Satyr1378 wrote:

Axl Rose is quite possibly one of the best frontmen of all time,.. Scott Weiland has to do something because he can't even touch that title,... sadly all he can do is be a little bitch,.. Actions speak louder.


dude, axl is a rump ranger. Scott OWNS axl.
     
Bazilisck311 wrote on 03/20/2006 - 11:25 am / quote |
Axel Rose is one of M. Shadows' idols and it is true that they have the same voice couch.

What I'm more worried about is the riff this is going to create within the band. Both Zacky Vengence and Synyster Gates cite Slash as one of their primary influencies and now with their vocalist siding with Slash's nemesis...
     
Bazilisck311 wrote on 03/20/2006 - 11:26 am / quote |
Bazilisck311 wrote:

Axel Rose is one of M. Shadows' idols and it is true that they have the same voice couch.
     
Bazilisck311 wrote on 03/20/2006 - 11:28 am / quote |
damnit - I was trying to post a correction "coach" instead of "couch", but I accidentally clicked post while editing the quote - my apologies
     
p8ntballerz182 wrote on 03/20/2006 - 11:51 am / quote |
this might be suicide but i hate guns 'n' roses
     
Death Bat wrote on 03/21/2006 - 07:13 pm / quote |
umm I'm a dedicated a7x fan, but M. Shadows is just retarded.
     
Prankster549 wrote on 03/23/2006 - 03:30 pm / quote |
i love Axl Rose, but come on people he can't sing as well as scott (if your really going to compare them). What we all really loved about GNR was their ability to play together incredibly. Second off If mr. Shadows was just really answering a quetion than it shouldnt be that big of a deal. Thirdly i just wasted 2 minutes writing about something as pointless as this and it shouldnt have even made it onto UG's headline

And if any of you have ever been in a band then you know that you stick up for yourbandmates. Thats just what scott did when axl dissed the rest of SCOTTS band.
     
TatsmyRainbow03 wrote on 03/31/2006 - 01:53 am / quote |
mm..wat do i think? no it doesn't count but everyone's talking too..
axl rose is awesome, yes. weird? check. misunderstood? most likely. Guns n' roses are the first band I ever heard (along with nirvana) and they have some pretty deep songs along with their crazy ones(civil war, anyone?). So, they have a special place in my heart. I think Scott weiland is a really good singer and songwriter. He also is oddly sexually attractive to me. And, I like Avenged Sevenfold. And, I don't think they need to trash anyone for publicity because their music and guitar playing speaks for itself. And velvet revolver are really good live in concert.
Nobody is a better singer/songwriter than anyone else. Everyone has their own talents and is special in their own way. I don't like to compare and put down cause then feelings get hurt and fights break out
My advice to everyone involved: keep on writing and creating great music, and you'll be okay.
Mr. Rose, that's for you especially!
     
sgthartman76 wrote on 04/07/2006 - 04:54 pm / quote |
i agree tats' i grew up listening to guns n'roses the old lineup of course'and i likes stp a lot to.. but to me my favorite of the two will always be axl' again not downing weiland' hell i guess they'll just have to face off..
     
z e r o wrote on 05/10/2006 - 06:58 pm / quote |
i agree that guns n' roses is better than velvet revolver, but axl is a total dick. velvet revolver is better than axl's gnr. just release the motherf'n album, axl. then maybe you can talk.
     
alienboy18241 wrote on 05/21/2006 - 12:55 pm / quote |
Shadows, we all no your only agreeing with him because your going to be stuck with axl and "Guns n Roses" in Europe this summer. Yes, GNR is better than VR, but as z e r o said before, axl is a dick
     
_synyster haley wrote on 01/19/2007 - 08:20 pm / quote |
As posted by somebody else before, M. Shadows was just stating his opinion to his fans! Sweet mother of Synyster. Seriously guys, his OPINION!
     
Ponyexpress wrote on 11/08/2008 - 08:13 pm / quote |
Ladies and Gentlemen I give you: the first person ever to get along with Axl Rose
     
KillaXxX wrote on 05/10/2010 - 10:30 am / quote |
METSOAD wrote:

M Shadows is a crap singer, the rest of the band are much better than him
Bull ****in shit dude, have you listened to any of his singin, or is your head shoved so far up your ass you can't hear shit?
METSOAD wrote:

M Shadows is a crap singer, the rest of the band are much better than him
     
KillaXxX wrote on 05/10/2010 - 10:38 am / quote |
They are all equally talented, but you can't very well compare a singer to a guitarist... More or less because that'd be retarded, but because they have different parts. M. Shadows is an amazing singer, Zacky's kickass as well. So is Syn.. The Rev (RIP) was as well.
     
KillaXxX wrote on 05/10/2010 - 10:38 am / quote |
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