Avril Lavigne: Another Song Stolen?

Poor, poor Avril. Looks like you better stop giving the finger to the paparazzi and start coming up with more distinct bass lines.

According to Perezhilton, another song on Avril’s new CD The Best Damn Thing is sounding mighty familiar. The first 20 seconds of Lavigne’s song I Don’t Have To Try sounds almost identical to I’m The Kinda by Canadian rocker Peaches.

Recently, the Rubinoos’s (the first band to call Avril a thief) claim over Avril’s Girlfriend was refuted by the pop/punk (but mostly pop) princess’s manager, when he pulled a quote off their myspace page that claims they were also ripped off by “the Rasberries, the Beach Boys, the Beatles.”

Listen to both songs at CollegeCandy.com.

Comments

[Pumpkins4Life]

listen to it, of course she stole it. she's a no talent hack.

[-kiksu-]

At least the Rubinoos song had some similarities in the melody and lyrics but this... is really lame.

You can also say the beginning of that reggaeton song 'Bojangles' by Pitbull is similar to Avril and Peaches' songs...

[severed-metal]

Everyone steals from everyone else.It's hard to be original when so much has already been done. But, shame on her. Unless she didn't MEAN to steal them..

[Dingoman]

oh,when will it end!?!

[DaveGilmour1189]

I'll wait on this one though.

I mean, when the last band claimed you stole their music and THAT band claims the beatles (with released songs 20 years before) ripped them off well.....

i don't feel like listening to see if theres a difference.

[Twiggy81R]

severed-metal wrote:

Everyone steals from everyone else.It's hard to be original when so much has already been done. But, shame on her. Unless she didn't MEAN to steal them..

Very true.

[Off-The-Heazay]

she doesnt write her own songs though does she?
so its not her fault in a way, but then again she should start writing again

[splinter26]

this is rediculous, the way they are trying to get money out of her, they may aswell go around every bands myspace page, and look at the "sounds like" section then get all the bands mentioned to sue them. i mean fffs and no im not a fan of avril

[Metal_Rich]

Well, seeing as everyone is being like this, she stole the main progression of "I'm With You" from the Goo Goo dolls song "Iris", and she even performed that song with them live, so its obvious where she got that 'inspiration'.

[Dr.Tomahawk]

Damn, she looks so badass in that picture, i wish i was her. This is not her fault anyway because everybody knows it's far beyond her ability to write her own songs.

[Pontius2000]

This is why you shouldn't put guitar/bass/drums into a pop song and pretend that you're a rock star. in rock, it's easier to cover stuff up because you can be eclectic and you can cover it up with effects, riffs, solos, etc. with this pop crap that she sings, there's only so much you can do and it's already been done already anyway. now why this should be a story on ultimate-GUITAR, is beyond me.

[sunnysayshi]

splinter26 wrote:

this is rediculous, the way they are trying to get money out of her, they may aswell go around every bands myspace page, and look at the "sounds like" section then get all the bands mentioned to sue them. i mean fffs and no im not a fan of avril

Whats fffs mean? Isn't ffs For Fucks Sake?

[BodaciousBob]

It's a bass line i doubt she wrote it herself plus i doubt that anything any of us write is 100% original is guaranteed to sound similar to something. Theres are only so many notes and so many scales and so many chords and there's a limit on how many different sequences we can put these in.

[Sound_Garden_X]

and listen to the new sum 41 song it's pretty much exactly like their own song Fat Lip

Checked.

[stonyman65]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[perpetualmotion]

sunnysayshi wrote: whats fffs mean? Isn't ffs For Fucks Sake?

for ****ing ****s sake?

[skippy_moogoose]

and listen to the new sum 41 song it's pretty much exactly like their own song Fat Lip

I thought that..and the video aint exactly disimiliar.
think ir ead somewhere about new album being a return to old skool sum 41, didnt realise they meant literally!

[minichibi]

ne1 else notice how they spelled her name wrong in the picture? Neway I couldnt be bothered to listen.

[Absu_Kanpa]

I have to agree it's probably not her fault given how simple the song is...and so many damn songs sound the same when you strip off the vocals

yeah, since the "lead" guitar left to form the NWOBHM band Brown Brigade, the band decided to take a step back from their previous "heavier" albums. And yeah what's it? Class Hero sounds alot like many Sum 41 cliches put into one IMO hehe

[tamargoguitar]

man that must be irritating....you give your heart and sould on a record that you worked hard on..and everyone starts saying you copied them...honestly, I couldnt take it...

[Spirit_Crusher]

zakk wylde should rip her head off. with his teeth.

[2113]

This is like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.


Even if you get sued/sue for shitloads of money, you still both suck at music. :/

[Tragicalsorrow]

What I don't get is why does that band want to associate their music with such a terrible song? Thats like saying " we have terrible music". But I guess it's just a money situation

[Pantera2589]

Damn pretty soon everyone is going to cash in on Avril.

[bostons leppard]

why don't we just throw all these no talent people on and island and whoever kills off everyone else will win and it could be like a reality tv show

[thatguyaswell]

Wow I started a song with that same G chord as she used in that other song...damn she must've ripped me off!!!!

This is rediculous, when an artist that has $$$$ comes and make that claim and proves she ripped it off then we got a problem. But these other people are "no bodies", never mad eit big and now want a peice of her bankroll...she sells millons for a reason, not technical ability but an ability to strike a chord with the general population, like it or not thats what makes a successful artists. She may not fit into your cup of tea (or genre), doesn;t fir into mine, but true artists respect everyone else's art for what it is. If she already has millions why would she jeopardize herself by ripping these "no-bodies" off, she knows it'll come back to bite her in the ass.

I can think of hundreds of songs that sound the same or have same riffs etc:

MaryJanes Last Dance (tom Petty) & Dani California (RHCP)

Come Down (Bush) & You give Love a bad name (Bon Jovi)

No law suits here bacause there is no "starving artist" factor....all you people bashing her shuold take a step back and look at your own music...i would bet a million dollars that everyone has something that sounds like something someone else has done in the past...most of the time you wouldn;t know it because you never headr that "other tune" that sounds like yours....only 12 notes you can play (a-g and thier flats or sharps)...billions of songs out there since history began...you do the math and probability stats

[browar]

Avril's - Complicated = Pink's - Don't Let Me Get Me

[-heartbreaker-]

Avril forgot to mention her latest album was a cover one!

[Shred_From_Hell]

Oh man, see her giving the finger? That's sooooo hardcore....

[Fickstigure]

Avril's got the nub hax, it's true.

what a hack.

[namelessmaggot6]

lol anyone else notice her names spelled wrong in the pic of her?

[Ibeatonthebrat]

God, all of those songs are probably ripped off from other people. At this rate, she'll have no songs to officially call her own.

[Dead_End]

they make a good point, but who actually listens to her music enough to notice she ripped off their song ahaha

[megadethisbeast]

this is pathetic why is this kinda news on ultimate guitar

[rush4life]

Here's a comparison of the two songs, if anyone is interested...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P0d2z-dWZmE

[Hops44]

skippy_moogoose wrote:

and listen to the new sum 41 song it's pretty much exactly like their own song Fat Lip


I thought that..and the video aint exactly disimiliar.
think ir ead somewhere about new album being a return to old skool sum 41, didnt realise they meant literally!

I think its because people like that song and if this new song sounds similar to their old song (which I think it does) they think it'll help sell as many records as Fat Lip did for AKNF.

[better_than_you]

everyone is just trying to sue her and end her career now before she gets any worse. People can't stand her anymore and want her gone. So I say sue the hell outta her!

[IDon'tLoveYou]

Come on, will everyone stop getting at her. I only liked about 3,4 or 5 songs, but come on, stop getting at her.
This is really lame!

[dieloony2]

Okay granted musicly everything has already been done and you are bound to rip off people you may not necissarly have even ever heard before.

But considering avril doesn't write all her own songs and has help with the ones she does write, i do think these two songs have been lifted from the other artists. very shady. "I WEAR THE PANTS!" rofl poor peaches

[better_than_you]

Yes it is really lame that avril can't write her own original songs

[thycrusader]

YEAH!!! STRIKE 2 BITCH!!!

[HarmlessMarvin]

Besides the fact that these two songs sound pretty much exactly the same, Avril is on record as saying that Peaches song is her favorite song. She gave a list of her Top 5 favorite songs in an issue of InTouch Magazine, and her Top 10 favorite songs are on Rhapsody.com, both lists have "Peaches - I'm The Kinda" as her #1 favorite.

I could recognize my favorite song backwards. There's no way she went all the way through writing & recording and didn't realize that it's not just some other song she's heard before, or some song she kind of likes, but her #1 favorite song. Unless she's got Peaches in the liner notes she stole it plain and simple.

[pmcg35]

thatguyaswell wrote:

Wow I started a song with that same G chord as she used in that other song...damn she must've ripped me off!!!!

This is rediculous, when an artist that has $$$$ comes and make that claim and proves she ripped it off then we got a problem. But these other people are "no bodies", never mad eit big and now want a peice of her bankroll...she sells millons for a reason, not technical ability but an ability to strike a chord with the general population, like it or not thats what makes a successful artists. She may not fit into your cup of tea (or genre), doesn;t fir into mine, but true artists respect everyone else's art for what it is. If she already has millions why would she jeopardize herself by ripping these "no-bodies" off, she knows it'll come back to bite her in the ass.

I can think of hundreds of songs that sound the same or have same riffs etc:

MaryJanes Last Dance (tom Petty) & Dani California (RHCP)

Come Down (Bush) & You give Love a bad name (Bon Jovi)

No law suits here bacause there is no "starving artist" factor....all you people bashing her shuold take a step back and look at your own music...i would bet a million dollars that everyone has something that sounds like something someone else has done in the past...most of the time you wouldn;t know it because you never headr that "other tune" that sounds like yours....only 12 notes you can play (a-g and thier flats or sharps)...billions of songs out there since history began...you do the math and probability stats

exactly...bush and bon jovi are huge therefore they dont give a shit about lawsuits on each other. but whoever the hell peaches is makes it obvious that they are a starving artist trying to get publicity, and possibly money, through avril lavigne (?). plus, speaking of sum 41, the singer helped write most of the music on that album. not a fan of avril but i must admit she is getting screwed.

[Biggs]

It's very hard to come up with something that doesn't sound like something else these days.

Though, that's not so much my point...

I wouldn't even comment, but I had to comment on the article. The reader obviously dislikes Avril Lavigne (I'm no big fan, but, c'mon..), and it just reads like a story where somebody is 'dissing' her and nothing else. It's really poor.

[bokuho]

Why would anyone willingly claim that the worst part of a terrible album (that intro to 'I Don't Have To Try' really is the worst part of Avril's newest album - yes, metal-heads, feel free to hate on me for listening to the ablum -_- ), was ripped off from them?

If I had come up with that crap, I'd be happy if a more famous artists ripped it off me, then I could just hide it away and put all the blame on them for making it instead of me. Screw the cash.

[zakkwyldeisgayy]

hey hey hey hey I'm going to court yea!

[abs_n91]

Still...hope she gets sued. She really is a talentless ****, it's about time the music industry realised. And what better way to expose a fake? ^_^

[AlchoholicA]

It's about time this talentless bitch gets sued, I've noticed many songs being ripped off of by her and I'm glad this bitch its finally getting in trouble for it

[creativeboner]

I'd do her once though... then kick her out afterwards.

[BassAnticks]

why is no one sueing papa roach forevers intro clearly sounds the same as save me by Shinedown WTF!

[shuriken]

i think she should just killer herself. win-win-win-win situation.

[JordanLennon]

i agree that this is lame but my favorite bass player (Paul McCartney) openly admitted to lifting the bass line for "I Saw Her Standing There" 100% from Chuck Berry...i agree, lame but I'm just saying this kind of thing happens.

[clazz]

That song is the only song that has ever made my ears literally hurt. Her screeching in the pre-choruses are too much for me.

The intro is hilarious though.

[Krisp]

Fucking bullshit, she didn't steal anything. Those bands are just a bunch of idiots, who wants to earn money buy suing her. I used to be a fan of her, until her personality changed to the opposite of who she was. She used to be a really cool chick back in ol' days of 2002/2003. Though i don't like her that much anymore, i think she IS talented. She's one of the few pop artists who actually has talent.

[fubu4545]

-heartbreaker- wrote:

Avril forgot to mention her latest album was a cover one!

lol)))))

Checked.

[samerika]

Come on guys, this is starting to get borin although she is getting pwned.

I dont agree with you krisp, kt tunstall lilly allen are both way more talented than she is.

BY the way to declare a song a copy 8 consecutive times have to be the same.

[guitarpalooz]

Avril Lavigne carries insurance that protects her against EXACTLY this type of lawsuit. I'm sure she wouldn't have paid for it unless she had a reason to.

[Jastul]

lol, she looks like a crackhead in that picture

also, she might want to either write some songs of her own or get better wirters, or at least more ethical ones

[magnus_maximus]

Krisp wrote:

Fucking bullshit, she didn't steal anything. Those bands are just a bunch of idiots, who wants to earn money buy suing her. I used to be a fan of her, until her personality changed to the opposite of who she was. She used to be a really cool chick back in ol' days of 2002/2003. Though i don't like her that much anymore, i think she IS talented. She's one of the few pop artists who actually has talent.

...where's the punchline?

[dain84]

Anyone notice how they're ALL Canadian artists?

[silent caution]

'Poor, poor Avril. Looks like you better stop giving the finger to the paparazzi and start coming up with more distinct bass lines'.....ha

[pucci6d6]

dain84 wrote:

Anyone notice how they're ALL Canadian artists?

LMAO they are!
sucks for her im jsut gonna stay out of it

[darkfire_storm]

[quote]rush4life wrote:

Here's a comparison of the two songs, if anyone is interested...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P0d2z-dWZmE[/quo te]

at the end of that video it asked if she hasnt ever heard of peaches, almost as though she should have. i havent heard of them. in fact, they sound like total shit, so its completely surprising that anybody knows who they are. music is in a major slump right now... hell, i barely ever listen to anything that came out after the new millenium, unless its from older bands. i guess the only way to get things done right is to do it yourself.

oh yeah, and avril needs to just pull this album. if she recalled it, no one else could keep claiming these rediculous suits. i hate people sometimes.

[CosyNinja]

HarmlessMarvin wrote:

Besides the fact that these two songs sound pretty much exactly the same, Avril is on record as saying that Peaches song is her favorite song. She gave a list of her Top 5 favorite songs in an issue of InTouch Magazine, and her Top 10 favorite songs are on Rhapsody.com, both lists have "Peaches - I'm The Kinda" as her #1 favorite.

I could recognize my favorite song backwards. There's no way she went all the way through writing & recording and didn't realize that it's not just some other song she's heard before, or some song she kind of likes, but her #1 favorite song. Unless she's got Peaches in the liner notes she stole it plain and simple.

If what you say is true, then yeah, I would recognize if I was accidentally mimicking my favorite song. Who wouldn't. I agree with you 100%.

All those expressing how frustrating for Avril it would be, to have people accuse you of ripping someone off. Why don't you think how frustrating it would be for those artists who never got the millions and recognition for their work and then some talentless bimbo, with a pretty face, comes in and takes all the glory knowing that she could sell the sound of her taking a shit.
That would be frustrating.

[prot]

oh man that song is just freakin awful

[KeithAngus]

Spirit_Crusher wrote:

zakk wylde should rip her head off. with his teeth.

hahahahahahahah

[kryzay311]

Avril Lavigne: bad ass punk rocker, pure and origonal songwriter, and electric guitar extrodinare.

[Havenspear]

OH FUCK YES PEACHES IS SUEING AVRIL LAVIGNE.

[guitarted]

Off-The-Heazay wrote:

she doesnt write her own songs though does she?
so its not her fault in a way, but then again she should start writing again

supposedly she cowrote the newer songs.

[Mack56]

well, the rubinoos song is questionable, but she so totally stole that from peaches. it's even got the same kind of vocal rhythm over it.

[better_than_you]

kryzay311 :
Avril Lavigne: bad ass punk rocker, pure and origonal songwriter, and electric guitar extrodinare.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!! That's the best joke I've heard all day!!! wow you sure have a good sense of humor kryzay

[better_than_you]

ps. learn how to spell, kryzay

[viento]

as i said before, nobody really cares, but she's just a fine piece of ass

[Comeback Kiddd]

KeithAngus wrote:

Spirit_Crusher wrote:

zakk wylde should rip her head off. with his teeth.

bahahahaha. that just made my day

Checked pt. 2

[Surchekian]

this just makes me think about how much i hate people who work at 'skate' shops, zumiez, vans etc. "Hey Bro! Check out all the on sale items man!" don't get me wrong, i like skating, just not douchebags like Avril

[Travis Tricky]

On the Rubinoo's MySpace, it actually says the Beatles ripped them, BUT, they also say it is a joke as the Beatles out date them - apparently Avril's manager is not reporting the whole story - the way Avril is not writing the whole song(s)

[hobozach]

kryzay311 wrote:

Avril Lavigne: bad ass punk rocker, pure and origonal songwriter, and electric guitar extrodinare.

U weren't dropped as a baby, were u?

jfc, i mean, bad ass punk rocker?!?!?!? wtf is that?!?!? i KNOW bad ass punk rockers, she sure as hell isn't the slightest BIT punk.
and another thing, I ALSO know pure and original songwriters, hell just check out the songwriting and lyrics forum on this site, she IS NOT pure OR original.

and just fyi, powerchords don't exactly spell out "electric guitar extraordinare"

she is a plagerising poser who got discovered for her vocals, and she isn't even worth being made famous(more like INfamous) for that

[coryklok]

ha when will she learn

[Greg Harper]

I agree but Avril don't look like the typical Rubinos fan. I often write a riff and take it to the band and everyone goes "that's such and such" and I go oh crap and I really did't know.

[rednightmare]

I agree that this is lame but my favorite bass player (Paul McCartney) openly admitted to lifting the bass line for "I Saw Her Standing There" 100% from Chuck Berry...i agree, lame but I'm just saying this kind of thing happens.

At least he had the common decency to admit to it instead of claiming ignorance to ripping off her supposedly favourite song.

[Howe-n-Harrison]

yea this is getting lame, next thing yourll here is that she used the word "the" in her song and that copyed some low credit band that no one really knows

[kooky_kaymo]

shes such a tool. its hilarious. music has been around for awhile so naturally some things will sound similar once and awhile.

[blasphemus666]

avril lavigne is a fake. her music is bullshit, its no wonder she stole it. she acts like she's a rebel but i gotta tell ya SHE ISNT FUCKIN FOLLING ANYONE! bitch

[not_dead_enough]

Poor, poor Avril. Looks like you better stop giving the finger to the paparazzi and start coming up with more distinct bass lines.

Is it just me or is the journalism on this site getting less and less objective each day? Whoever checks this article next please comment on this.

[skikirk680]

Its just a cryin shame that she is getting this much attention. 90% of all people logging on to this site have twice the talent she will EVER have, but will never go anywhere as musicians because we aren't young skanky wannabe punker chicks. I mean really, does ANYONE really consider her a musician??? I sure hope not. If so, go back and play with your my space page and texting your friends....AND don't forget to do your homework first!

[DarKMaTTeR.tm]

Here is a fact: The human mind does not produce ideas, it only repeats or combines ones it has already met. Admit it, everytime you came up with something original (more or less) it was because you played something else wrong or because you experimented with things you didnt know what they would sound like. When you're composing something in your mind, you're only mixing things you've heard before, even if you cant even recall where you heard it from.
Since Avril made this album the way she thought it should be (at least so i read somewhere), meaning she comes with the idea and then plays it, it is no surprise that there are going to be lots of things similar to something else. And i dont think she was aware of that when make the record so give her a break.

[JesusSlap]

severed-metal wrote:

Everyone steals from everyone else.It's hard to be original when so much has already been done. But, shame on her. Unless she didn't MEAN to steal them..

i've thought that to myself...but then that's what makes a true artist! that's why we regard them as so creative because they have the talent, skill, creativty, etc. to come up with something completely new. she is not an artist, just another pop princess jumping on the mainstream bandwagon. (my opinion)

[Agemoi]

wow i just listened to the comparison, sorry guys, she STOLE it, im always hoping an artist never resorts to it but she definately did, its way too obvious

[Agemoi]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=P0d2z-dWZmE

hear for yourselves...thats NO accident and i KNOW that, u gotta be in denial to say its completely an accident

[G-Wiz]

it annoys me that she treats her fans like crap and they still love her. stop listening to her musicc

[Agemoi]

i duno about the Rubinoos one, there a little bit of a resemblence in the hey hey you you i wana be you **fill in the blank. thats pretty much exactly the same, but the whole songs are still alittle different, but the Peaches one.. DEFINATELY stolen

[Agemoi]

id give anything to be successful and what does she do? abuse her success and cant een write her own songs, jesus, thinks shes so hard? someone hard would sit down and write their shit with their BAND, christ....anyway im done, i ranted far too much, its honestly a shame, i really was hoping this was bullshit but its not, im no fan, but those are huge accusations

[smileyface]

You all seem to be a little tense there, children, so I'm going to sing you a little song. It goes something like this, and I would love it if you would all sing along:

Walking down the road, and I picked up a little bowl,

Ane, well, I made me a seat, and everybody I meet wanna know, How many can sit on that seat

Some says one and it's more yet. Some says two and it's more yet

Some says three, and it's more yet. Some says four and it's more yet.

Some says five, and it's more yet. Some says six and it's more yet.

Some says seven, and it's more yet (More Yet). Some says eight and it's more yet (More yet).

Some says nine, and it's more yet (More yet). Some says ten and it's more yet (More yet).

That was the end of my friend, And all the men that could sit on the bowl.

His name wasy More Yet, And his name wasd More Yet. It was More Yet, It was More Yet.

Alright, now, thank you children. And remember, to be good to your parents. I hope to see you all again soon. Goodbye for now.

[Hidde]

Lol at her thinking she's badass (and lol at her music in general) but I don't think she stole it.

[miketallica]

Okay, I can understand how the claims on 'Girlfriend' by the Rubinoos might be unsubstantiated, although you can't mistake that Hey, hey, you, you I want to be your girlfriend is really close to Hey hey you you I want to be your boyfriend. However, in round two, there is no way that Lavigne had a case of cryptomnesia (thinking you wrote something original but it turns out it was something you've heard a long time ago). The base line is too similar, the lyric line follows the same pattern in Peaches song. Avril should just up and quit before William Shatner outs her about a song she might've ripped off of him (that no one would even know about because whoever has heard a full Shatner song has committed suicide).

[guitgrinder]

y'know, I don't listen to shit music like this, but I'd bet this retarded bitch didn't even know her PRODUCER stole it. Fact is, shes probably like most girls who don't pay attention to music, which means she listened to it and thought "it has a good beat" and sang some sappy ****in' lyric that she and her producer wrote together.

[skikirk680]

Did any of you see the Metallica "Icon" show on MTV(otherwise known as SH*T)? The experessions on their faces when she was singing was PRICELESS!!! They had no clue who she was and were NOT impressed w/the pop version of their epic song. Just further evidence that MTV is so far beyond out-of-touch it just makes me laugh...well, after I threw the remote through the tv, it made me laugh.

[Thomaslikespigs]

rofl. **** her. i used to think she wrote her own songs...

[Thomaslikespigs]

but i do love the picture

[dark_falco3000]

kryzay311 wrote:

Avril Lavigne: bad ass punk rocker, pure and origonal songwriter, and electric guitar extrodinare.

I'm going to assume that was a joke? If so, lol, that's pretty friggen funny.

If not, well... she ain't punk, original or any good at electric guitar. Just letting you know. Of course, this is probably a joke, just making sure.

[adambc]

bah, who cares.

every summer a pop/punk song comes out where the chorus has a I V VI IV progression. This summers was Girlfriend.

youll also notice that progression is used in about 50% of crap blink/greenday music back when they were both big. in fact, i could list ten blink songs alone that use it.

[Antonio182]

still she is hot!

[anybodyhome]

who cares anymore

[smileyface]

skikirk680 :
Did any of you see the Metallica "Icon" show on MTV(otherwise known as SH*T)? The experessions on their faces when she was singing was PRICELESS!!! They had no clue who she was and were NOT impressed w/the pop version of their epic song. Just further evidence that MTV is so far beyond out-of-touch it just makes me laugh...well, after I threw the remote through the tv, it made me laugh.

Yeah, but for the most part Metallica is in the same demographic as Avril Lavigne. Their a puberty band. Once you discover, say, Lou Reed, or an intelligent songwriter of some kind, they seem quite lame. I would be pretty embarassed if Metallica played one of my songs (If I was a commercially marketed artist blah blah stop crying). Metallica is just as MTV-driven commercial pukeage as Avril Lavigne. Avril's just more obvious. What, are you going to cry now?

[smileyface]

skikirk680 :
Did any of you see the Metallica "Icon" show on MTV(otherwise known as SH*T)? The experessions on their faces when she was singing was PRICELESS!!! They had no clue who she was and were NOT impressed w/the pop version of their epic song. Just further evidence that MTV is so far beyond out-of-touch it just makes me laugh...well, after I threw the remote through the tv, it made me laugh.

Yeah, but for the most part Metallica is in the same demographic as Avril Lavigne. Their a puberty band. Once you discover, say, Lou Reed, or an intelligent songwriter of some kind, they seem quite lame. I would be pretty embarassed if Metallica played one of my songs (If I was a commercially marketed artist blah blah stop crying). Metallica is just as MTV-driven commercial pukeage as Avril Lavigne. Avril's just more obvious. What, are you going to cry now?

[juniorfr3ak]

BS lawsuit, no one cares

[juniorfr3ak]

...and this just crossed my mind, how can she be getting sued if she doesn't write the songs? She doesn't write her own songs does she?

[motorbreath_445]

now she's a sellout AND a theif. to think i used to priase her. she can go burn in ****in hell for all i care now. she just better not drag sum 41 down with her, cuz she's finnished. and THANK CHRIST FOR THAT!

[BlindMelon45]

holy shit who cares, my god. jus let music be music.. all these broke ass has been musicians tryin to get a lil money... what bull shit.... jus listen to the music and enjoy.. quit bitchin.... ****

[xalyssam]

just listened to it.
exact beat and everything.
it does sound abit like the beat from bojangles by pitbull too.
no one can come up with anything original anymore can they?

[xalyssam]

by the way, how exactly does this article relate to ultimate guitar?
obviously avril can't play or make up anything original
we don't care that she got sued
this is a guitar site, not Perezhilton.com

[not_dead_enough]

smileyface wrote:

skikirk680 :
Did any of you see the Metallica "Icon" show on MTV(otherwise known as SH*T)? The experessions on their faces when she was singing was PRICELESS!!! They had no clue who she was and were NOT impressed w/the pop version of their epic song. Just further evidence that MTV is so far beyond out-of-touch it just makes me laugh...well, after I threw the remote through the tv, it made me laugh.



Yeah, but for the most part Metallica is in the same demographic as Avril Lavigne. Their a puberty band. Once you discover, say, Lou Reed, or an intelligent songwriter of some kind, they seem quite lame. I would be pretty embarassed if Metallica played one of my songs (If I was a commercially marketed artist blah blah stop crying). Metallica is just as MTV-driven commercial pukeage as Avril Lavigne. Avril's just more obvious. What, are you going to cry now?

Heard you the first time.

[metal_hammer]

BlindMelon45 wrote:

holy shit who cares, my god. jus let music be music.. all these broke ass has been musicians tryin to get a lil money... what bull shit.... jus listen to the music and enjoy.. quit bitchin.... ****

THANKYOUif you dont like some music...then don't listen to it!get over it!

[rhcpfan118]

i'm not defending avril, she has no talent now, but first of all who is perezhilton to say she's a thief, he's a queer gossip blogger (no hate against gays.) who isn't even a musician. second, the other song, "i'm the kinda" is a piece of shit also, it sucks worse than perez hilton and paris hilton put together. it's just talking about a slut who is presenting herself as the perfect girl, it's hardly music. no... it isn't music at all, it's shitty hip-hop, and has nothing to do with ultimate-GUITAR! moral of the story, sure avril may have ripped the beat but that relates to this site how? that's gossip... nothing else.

[tunasband]

I feel bad for her. This is a little exaggerated now... Okay, the girlfriend thing was somewhat credible, but this? Its fuc[i][/i]king retarded. Poor Avril.

[Thienskater]

GUILTY

[metal_hammer]

BlindMelon45 wrote:

holy shit who cares, my god. jus let music be music.. all these broke ass has been musicians tryin to get a lil money... what bull shit.... jus listen to the music and enjoy.. quit bitchin.... ****

THANKYOU!
god everybody just shut the **** up.
if you dont like a song or a type of music then don't listen to it!
it's really that simple.

not_dead_enough wrote:

Poor, poor Avril. Looks like you better stop giving the finger to the paparazzi and start coming up with more distinct bass lines.
Is it just me or is the journalism on this site getting less and less objective each day? Whoever checks this article next please comment on this.

The articles are submitted by users, and don't have anything to do with us.

Checked

[360ollie]

haha

[ssk9716757]

Spirit_Crusher wrote:

zakk wylde should rip her head off. with his teeth.

XFD I could imagine him doing a solo, biting her head off, spitting it out, and then keep soloing without missing a beat.

[COTKoRn69]

I don't really think the Rubinoos have a case but the I Don’t Have To Try sounds the same to I’m The Kinda by Peaches.

[paramore_fans]

FUCK YOU PEREZ!!!! YOU'RE SUCH AN ASSHOLE!!! PLEASE LEAVE AVRIL ALONE, BURN IN HELL!!!!

You shouldnt' believe in this no life brokeback gossiper!!!

You peopel here, let's make a coalition against him!!!

[not_dead_enough]

Ok thanks psychodelia.

[brian_s]

I wear the pants.

You gotta be ****in' kidding me!

[freedoms_stain]

they're very very similar thats for sure

[vanceboy]

hm...white person stealing other white people's bass lines.

File This Article under "Vanilla Ice"

[jimmy, the one]

better_than_you wrote:

everyone is just trying to sue her and end her career now before she gets any worse. People can't stand her anymore and want her gone. So I say sue the hell outta her!

I hear ya!

[brian_s]

c'mon people, I wear the pants.
I mean thats gotta be the stupidest line ever.

[Dannystrumpop]

I'm now going to press charges against Avril. She hasn't stolen my song but she too has blond hair. I will not stand for this rip-off. Not only that, I believe her song "Girlfriend" has stolen my soul in the same way that having a picture taken does.

[Jau_Peacecraft]

The house of cards that built Avril Lavigne is faltering once again, that house never looked so delicate as it does now. Fuck her. I hope the next band we all find out she stole yet another song from (come on, like there would only be one or two?), makes a public demand as to why she keeps stealing in denial.


What a strange denial.

[thatguyaswell]

wow...are you artists or idiots? Again she must be doing something right to sell as many albums as she does...fact is those band are no-bodies and they just want a bit of cash...most "claims" like this are in hopes the artist will pay just to shut up the accuser...the accuser probably hasn't enough money to sue. (in Canada its not like the US whee frivilous lawsuits are everyday...a la "I split my hot coffe on my lap, although I am a moron not knowing how to hold a hot coffee i am gonna sue McD's"

As far talent, i can't believe how people bash her (or any artist), considering these bashers think bands like MCR, the Used etc have much techncal talent (not bashing them, they do what they do well but as far as tech talent...not much)...fact is people if you compare us rock/pop type musicians to trained classical musician and then you will really see who has and who hasn't the technical talent....so stop bitchin and go write a tune thats better than the ones you bash, then and only then will you have some credibility and actually be in a postion to "bash"

[nodice182]

whatever.
i doubt peaches would have come out by themselves if the rubinoos hadn't accused avril of stealing first. bandwagon much?

[Mahoru]

Well, and now we still have to wait for her ex-manager to tell the truth too, so this can be long; but I don't care, as long as this ends with her career forever and all her merchandise is burnt in a public bonfire with her on the top of the pile ^^

[wbk666]

seriously though does anyone apart from the accused and defendant really give a toss? i know i dont.
to me it sounds like sour grapes because avril is doing well whilst the unknown rubidoos etc arnt.

[sbalzac]

thatguyaswell wrote:


As far talent, i can't believe how people bash her (or any artist), considering these bashers think bands like MCR, the Used etc have much techncal talent (not bashing them, they do what they do well but as far as tech talent...not much)...fact is people if you compare us rock/pop type musicians to trained classical musician and then you will really see who has and who hasn't the technical talent....so stop bitchin and go write a tune thats better than the ones you bash, then and only then will you have some credibility and actually be in a postion to "bash"

Please shut up! I hate people like you who say people have no credibility unless they can play something better then what they are (as you would put it) "bashing". Are you honestly stupid enough to think the editors and journalists in "rolling stone" or "NME" or any music magazine can perform better songs than the ones they "bash"? You do not need to be talented to give out about music. If you have a large amount of musical knowledge you cant be challenged, and in response to you trying to justify her "talent" by her sales, the reason she has sold so much is because people are idiots. People are capable of liking crap music, its just their taste. If you were to go by that stupid line of yours that would signify that no band in the past is even half as good as the new bands. More disposable income = more sales

[sbalzac]

hmm dont know why i bothered going on that big rant. the guy isnt gonna see it anyway. ah whell...her name is spelt incorrectly lol

[Eurasian_C]

paramore_fans wrote:

FUCK YOU PEREZ!!!! YOU'RE SUCH AN ASSHOLE!!! PLEASE LEAVE AVRIL ALONE, BURN IN HELL!!!!

You shouldnt' believe in this no life brokeback gossiper!!!

You peopel here, let's make a coalition against him!!!

Um...yeah I don't think anyone's up for that buddy...so uhh....F U

[iheart_a7x]

whatever who cares.
hahaha

[Kikuta]

What, America ran out of Paris Hilton news so now they're moving on to Avril?

Jesus ****ing christ, who cares?

[Rockin Fendrman]

sbalzac wrote:

thatguyaswell wrote:


As far talent, i can't believe how people bash her (or any artist), considering these bashers think bands like MCR, the Used etc have much techncal talent (not bashing them, they do what they do well but as far as tech talent...not much)...fact is people if you compare us rock/pop type musicians to trained classical musician and then you will really see who has and who hasn't the technical talent....so stop bitchin and go write a tune thats better than the ones you bash, then and only then will you have some credibility and actually be in a postion to "bash"


Please shut up! I hate people like you who say people have no credibility unless they can play something better then what they are (as you would put it) "bashing". Are you honestly stupid enough to think the editors and journalists in "rolling stone" or "NME" or any music magazine can perform better songs than the ones they "bash"? You do not need to be talented to give out about music. If you have a large amount of musical knowledge you cant be challenged, and in response to you trying to justify her "talent" by her sales, the reason she has sold so much is because people are idiots. People are capable of liking crap music, its just their taste. If you were to go by that stupid line of yours that would signify that no band in the past is even half as good as the new bands. More disposable income = more sales

you, you sir are a champion. that sums up exactly what needed to be said without just calling him/her a wanker. well put!! (personally i hope they do see it and see how stupid they are)

[paramore_fans]

Evan Taubenfeld response to this shitty article!!!

this is how he defends his best friend Av!!!

Thursday, July 12, 2007

Avril/Writing

Originally I wasn't going to post anything regarding this since I think it's absolutely ****ing ridiculous(that and I'm kinda nobody so it doesn't really matter), but for whatever reason the issue seems to be only escalating and I want to just clear some shit up. Avril is one of my dearest friends in the entire world and I find it pretty unbelievable how contorted the stories I'm hearing are. Chantal ate her words already, so I'll let that issue pass. The Roobinoos(who?) are ****ing *******s. Check out their shitty ass myspace and I think it's pretty obvious that they're dying for attention and publicity. This is a pathetic attempt to hurt someone for their own benefit. I'm not a musicologist or whatever those fancy dudes are called, but I know this: I've written a shitload of songs with Avril, (7 of which we've been lucky enough to have recorded together and release on her records) and I can honestly say that she was a huge part of creative force behind all of them. Any accusations that she isn't a songwriter are ludicrous. The one thing in common with every hit she's ever had is that she wrote on them, not someone else. The matrix, chantal, and even myself, we come and go but she'll always be writing good tunes for her records. Anytime her and I have ever written anything that resembles something else she'll make note of it and we'll abandon it, so anyone who says that she knowingly rips people off are just hating on her. It's very easy to pull and pick someone apart once they're huge, but the truth is you don't sell 25 million records unless at the core, there is a large amount of talent and innovation to drive the thing. (there is always an exception to the rule eg; Creed)

so basically, if you're a hater **** off, I think the fans of her music know the truth, and to be honest, it doesn't matter, in 6 months the roobinos will be back to serving up fries for us and Avril will be on a huge tour enjoying her long earned successes.

why the **** do you have to pay for internet at starbucks? wtf? my latte was already 9 bucks
Evan

[Zebo Rogun]

People say stole Peaches song, but I don’t I don’t think so.
I am a drummer and the beat patterns sound different to me.

The beat In Avril’s song although it sounds similar goes
1-2-3-4
1-2-3-4-5
The beat on Peaches goes
1-2-3
1-2-3
and then progresses to
1-2-3-4
1-2-3
Not the same . . .

The remaining 97% of the song is different; did you listen to the rest of the song?

Avril plays the drums a “little bit” and she knows the beat it is different, she said that the “Peaches” song “I’m the Kinda” is one of her favorite songs, Avril loves the Peach, she is not stealing she is simply paying tribute to one of her favorite songs. What is wrong with that?

The Rubinoos case is so weak it will never stand up in court, It’s just sad some of you believe she actually steals songs. I’ll bet she wins any case brought up against her. But for all of you Avril h8ters, at least you know she is suffering at the moment.

[Zebo Rogun]

skikirk680 wrote:

Did any of you see the Metallica "Icon" show on MTV(otherwise known as SH*T)? The experessions on their faces when she was singing was PRICELESS!!! They had no clue who she was and were NOT impressed w/the pop version of their epic song. Just further evidence that MTV is so far beyond out-of-touch it just makes me laugh...well, after I threw the remote through the tv, it made me laugh.

If you are going to bash Avril you could at least get your facts correct, Metallica actually asked Avril to play their “Fuel” song. Avril said in her typical fashion, “"I was like, 'They know who I am?" (17 year old) Lavinge said. "I had to learn to sing really harsh for it. They have a lot of screaming on that song. We've been practicing every day in sound check. We don't want to look bad in front of them." During Avril’s performance the camera cut away numerous times to Metallica’s band members reactions to her performance; and they were visible impressed with her really performance. If you actually watched the entire video you would have heard them voice their praises of Avril and her band mates. Immediately afterward the song finished they camera cut to Lars Ulrich (Drums), and asked him what he thought, he enthusiastically said: “fabulous, great, I, it was just so cool to sit here and, it was just a mindf**k to just sit hear and check all this out. Quickly the camera cut to James Hetfield: (Lead vocals, Guitar)’ and they asked him what he thought, he also enthusiastically said: “It was pretty interesting to hear female a female sing their lyrics; Not Bad” (Laughs and smiles big time). Afterward they further interviewed Metallica, they said that they were very impressed by Avril and her band mates. The audience was very clearly in to the performance.
Check out Avril’s cover “Fuel” by Metallica here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD2fJN120wc

Like Avril or hate her she does have at least a little has talent, it is just to bad it is being wasted on sugary pop in her most recent efforts. I think that if she actually survives this and does not self-destruct, perhaps she may one day gain some street-cred, or at least a small amount of respect as a musician, she has the pipes for it. But she has to prove it and earn her respect. I clearly see potential there and I for one can’t honorable count her out yet. But time will tell.
-Zebo

You may also check out “Losing Grip” (give it at least 1 minute):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHsChFd5Kg

Avri l Impresses Rock Legends
06 May 2003

[skikirk680]

Zebo Rogun wrote:

skikirk680 wrote:

Did any of you see the Metallica "Icon" show on MTV(otherwise known as SH*T)? The experessions on their faces when she was singing was PRICELESS!!! They had no clue who she was and were NOT impressed w/the pop version of their epic song. Just further evidence that MTV is so far beyond out-of-touch it just makes me laugh...well, after I threw the remote through the tv, it made me laugh.


If you are going to bash Avril you could at least get your facts correct, Metallica actually asked Avril to play their “Fuel” song. Avril said in her typical fashion, “"I was like, 'They know who I am?" (17 year old) Lavinge said. "I had to learn to sing really harsh for it. They have a lot of screaming on that song. We've been practicing every day in sound check. We don't want to look bad in front of them." During Avril’s performance the camera cut away numerous times to Metallica’s band members reactions to her performance; and they were visible impressed with her really performance. If you actually watched the entire video you would have heard them voice their praises of Avril and her band mates. Immediately afterward the song finished they camera cut to Lars Ulrich (Drums), and asked him what he thought, he enthusiastically said: “fabulous, great, I, it was just so cool to sit here and, it was just a mindf**k to just sit hear and check all this out. Quickly the camera cut to James Hetfield: (Lead vocals, Guitar)’ and they asked him what he thought, he also enthusiastically said: “It was pretty interesting to hear female a female sing their lyrics; Not Bad” (Laughs and smiles big time). Afterward they further interviewed Metallica, they said that they were very impressed by Avril and her band mates. The audience was very clearly in to the performance.
Check out Avril’s cover “Fuel” by Metallica here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD2fJN120wc

Like Avril or hate her she does have at least a little has talent, it is just to bad it is being wasted on sugary pop in her most recent efforts. I think that if she actually survives this and does not self-destruct, perhaps she may one day gain some street-cred, or at least a small amount of respect as a musician, she has the pipes for it. But she has to prove it and earn her respect. I clearly see potential there and I for one can’t honorable count her out yet. But time will tell.
-Zebo

You may also check out “Losing Grip” (give it at least 1 minute):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHsChFd5Kg

Avri l Impresses Rock Legends
06 May 2003

[skikirk680]

Y'know what? You just may be right, but I think that was just a bunch of industry politeness. You are absolutely correct in assuming I know nothing of her. I DON'T CARE! My opinion is that she just flat sucks, like most music lately. If you dig it, good. I hate this pop sh*t!!! Oh, and TRUST me, you don't have to explaine to me who the members of Metallica are. When I bought my first Metallica album(yes, ALBUM), the record store had never heard of them and had to order it. I was a HUGE fan for many many years and have all their albums, and have seen the incredible stage show more time than I can count. I consider them on a level almost comparable to Led Zep. Not quite, but close. No one who knows anything can deny that they were the absolute pioneers that brought back real metal in a time when it was just being mass produced and anyone with enough hair spray got signed. Anyway, I'm not looking for a stupid ass internet arguement. I just cannot stand this chick. Just my opinion, but I would walk on my elbow 100 miles to take her cd out of the player.

[Zebo Rogun]

skikirk680 wrote:

Y'know what? You just may be right, but I think that was just a bunch of industry politeness. You are absolutely correct in assuming I know nothing of her. I DON'T CARE! My opinion is that she just flat sucks, like most music lately. If you dig it, good. I hate this pop sh*t!!! Oh, and TRUST me, you don't have to explaine to me who the members of Metallica are. When I bought my first Metallica album(yes, ALBUM), the record store had never heard of them and had to order it. I was a HUGE fan for many many years and have all their albums, and have seen the incredible stage show more time than I can count. I consider them on a level almost comparable to Led Zep. Not quite, but close. No one who knows anything can deny that they were the absolute pioneers that brought back real metal in a time when it was just being mass produced and anyone with enough hair spray got signed. Anyway, I'm not looking for a stupid ass internet arguement. I just cannot stand this chick. Just my opinion, but I would walk on my elbow 100 miles to take her cd out of the player.

Fair enough, Peace J
Hey I am no youngster either and I love Metallica too, although I give the nod to Led Zeppelin (I saw them in 77 in Seattle), my first album was john "John Barleycorn Must Die" by Traffic. Hey I am not trying to expand this in to a full-blown Internet argument either. But I will do my part to defend my fellow musician or anyone else that I think is being falsely accused. I just think there is a frenzy to destroy Avril right now and I know in the end it will be proved out in the end she is innocent. Innocent before proven guilty is something we must never forget, because otherwise it will be the end of life as we now it. -Zebo

[paramore_fans]

Zebo Rogun, I also like Metallica but she made their Fuel song better!!! and the metallica was impressed of the female singing their song.

Yes she is obviously innocent!!!

[Wildnight]

So, anyone know what happened? Is she down now? Or continues to make crappy stuff?

[dark_falco3000]

paramore_fans wrote:

Zebo Rogun, I also like Metallica but she made their Fuel song better!!! and the metallica was impressed of the female singing their song.

Yes she is obviously innocent!!!

I dunno, I'm guessing she's innocent too, however there's no way that Avril Lavigne of all people could make a metallica song better. Once again, Avril is a talentless unoriginal pop singer, who I used to be able to stand but now it hurts my ears just to listen to her, and I really do hate that crappy "girlfriend" song.

[paramore_fans]

^you don't have to always listen to her GIRLFRIEND song!!! she had million times better than this song on TBDT album such as
INNOCENCE and WHEN YOU'RE GONE!!!! as well as other fast songs EVERYTHING BACK BUT YOU, I CAN DO BETTER, ONE OF THOSE GIRLS, THE BEST DAMN THING,RUNAWAY, HOT, ALONE and CONTAGIOUS!!!

[Wazoo]

Lavigne was sued for CONTAGIOUS because it was written by another girl but it sounds SO simular to WHAT'S MY AGE AGAIN? by BLINK-182, I mean throught the whole song. Check it out. u can download both of the songs on espew.com. Download TBDT on fazmide.com

[dark_falco3000]

*shrug* Avril's a sell out. The image she's projecting now is a very pop-ish image. I hate that image. She's turned into what she used to be against. Now she's an unoriginal sell out. Also she needs someone else to play guitar on her songs. Someone with skill. Also, capatilising all the songs makes you sound like a 12 year old. Please refrain from doing so.

[paramore_fans]

what the ****? Conatgious and What's My Age again are very different!!!!

here is what Av's friends said that she didn't steal that ****ing rubinoos and peaches

Tuesday, July 17, 2007

Rubinoos versus Avril
Category: News and Politics
As many of you may be aware, a band called The Rubinoos are suing Avril Lavigne, RCA Records, Apple and myself. They claim that we stole from their song "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend".

I have held back from addressing this matter publicly, but it is time for me to share my views.

Before this issue arose, I had never heard of this band and I had never heard of their song.

An independent and highly respected musicologist found no copyright infringement:

"When the various lyric and music elements of both Boyfriend and Girlfriend are examined it is readily apparent that although these compositions contain some similarity in one section of each work, they are overall distinctively different compositions. Furthermore, the lyric elements that are the same or similar are not protectable or original with "Boyfriend". Therefore any legal claim of infringement by "I Wanna Be You're Boyfriend" against "Girlfriend" would be unjustified."

I am also confused by the point of the contrived video clips of the chorus from "Girlfriend" followed by the chorus from the Rubinoos "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend" that have been posted on the internet. These have been radically digitally altered and transposed to make the songs sound more similar than they are. Playing the Rubinoos' song along with Avril's video, attempts to further confuse the public and connect two separate things. It is odd that if the songs are so close, they must be manipulated so much. When the songs are listened to in their entirety, it is evident that they are two very different songs with very different meanings.

I have come across thousands of songs that are similar. When I was 13 and learned to play "Wild Thing" on guitar, I soon realized I was playing the same power chords as "Louie Louie". Another example that you may be familiar with is: "Do You Love Me" by The Contours and "Twist and Shout" by The Isley Brothers.

All musical styles rely on melody, rhythm, harmony, and lyrics that are reused in an infinite variety of combinations. There are bound to be innocent similarities between compositions, especially within a given genre. An obvious example is the blues. There are thousands of songs with the same form, the same chords and many of the same lyric ideas. These elements define the genre.

Most importantly, I would like to address the hurtful and untrue statements being made about Avril's songwriting. It is not possible for anyone to state what an artist contributes to the creative process unless they witness it themselves. I have written with Avril and know that she is a talented songwriter with great ideas. Don't take my word for it. Ask Butch Walker, Evan Taubenfeld or The Matrix. Her success remains undeniable.

Sincerely - Dr. Luke


And here is what Evan Taubenfeld said

Nothing big really.

Q: To Evan and Devin. You must, like absolutely MUST, tell Avril to do Innocence live in her shows. Seriously, Evan you did an amazing job writing it with her, best song on the record, you have no idea. So guys, tell her for the millions of fans she has wanting to hear it live?
-Asked by Nick
E: Innocence is probably my favorite song that Avril has done. I think its one of her best vocal performances ever and I know it was a great topic to write about for both of us.
D: I am sure we will when we start the tour….. I ****in love that song to! Avril and Evan wrote a winner for sure!


Q: Hey Evan, will you be making an appearance in Avril's 'Hot' video? you should, you co-wrote it.
-Asked by Penny
E: I would be beyond honored. It’s always a blast doing videos with Av, but I have a feeling if the “Hot’ video will be pretty insane either way!


(My question haha! )
Q: What are your thoughts on Perez Hilton? (I saw your picture on there once, Evan!!)
-Asked by Melissa
E: My picture was on there? WTF? It was next to avril right? Yeah, I’m still nobody, phew. I’m not a hater, not a lover. He does what he does, people eat that shit up. I think what he represents is more a reflection of where we currently stand as consumers of pop culture. I’ve seen some funny shit from there, but I think he’s a complete ****ing ******* to Avril and it’s really lame. She never did shit to him, and she is 100 times more talented than all the other stupid ho’s he picks on. I don’t get it. I mean at the end of the day, he’s still fat.
D: He is a piece of shit!!!!



And that's about it. You can read the rest of them here OFFICIAL SITE OF THE BLACK LIST CLUB

Some of the others are pretty...interesting. Especially the one about Evan straightening his hair lmao.

PS- This confirms for SURE now that Hot will be the next single! I do hope Evan is in it haha...

[dark_falco3000]

paramore_fans, in the other topic (the one about the other "stolen" song) you told me you were trying to find a female guitarist that was better than Avril. I don't know of many female guitarists, but you could try the rhythmic guitarist/keyboards for Skillet (Christian rock band), or the lead guitarist for all female Thrash Metal band Meanstreak, who is wife of the ever talented John Petrucci, and although she isn't the best guitarist she's many times better than Avril.

And playing powerchords/strumming are both the most basic skills for guitars, so no, I'm not impressed by her guitar work. And from what I've heard, even her rhythmic skills aren't that good. Even Brad Delson (Linkin Park) beats her supposed guitar skills, and although I like linkin park, Brad Delson has very little talent.

And one note about your last post: You have 3 questions there when only the last one is relevant. No one here cares what songs Avril does in her live shows, no one here cares who's going to be in the video for her next single, so only the last question really needs to be there.

[avrilfan89]

SHE DIDN'T STEAL THAT SONG IT'S ALL BULL****.

[mister bass guy]

this is even worse than the time vanilla ice stole the bass line from under pressure...wait never mind

[jimmyjinx]

Pontius2000 wrote:

This is why you shouldn't put guitar/bass/drums into a pop song and pretend that you're a rock star. in rock, it's easier to cover stuff up because you can be eclectic and you can cover it up with effects, riffs, solos, etc. with this pop crap that she sings, there's only so much you can do and it's already been done already anyway. now why this should be a story on ultimate-GUITAR, is beyond me.

You've got a point there.