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Avril Lavigne Sued For Stealing Song |
| artist: avril lavigne |
date: 07/06/2007 |
category: general music news |
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Avril Lavigne is being sued by a Seventies songwriting team who say her song 'Girlfriend' is just like one they wrote years ago.
Tommy Dunbar who founded the band The Rubinoos says that the Canadian songstress track 'Girlfriend' bears a striking resemblance to a 1978 Rubinoos song 'I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend'.
The co-writer of Lavigne's track, Dr. Luke, is also being sued, as is her company Avril Lavigne Publishing.
Dunbar founded the Rubinoos as a teen with his friend Jon Rubin in 1973.
Lavigne's manager Terry McBride is insisting that there is nothing similar between the songs and has apparently had a musicologist confirm it.
However, McBride is apparently prepared to settle out of court of the suit becomes too expensive to fight. Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits.
This is the second incident of songwriting problems for the singer in recent weeks.
Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.'
Thanks for the info to NME.com.
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ProxXect
: | I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it. | What, did he invent that word now? :p Either way; DOWN WITH LAVIGNE.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:06 am / quote |
Aidy Damage
: It IS pretty much exactly like that song. The Ramones covered it.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:14 am / quote |
Strat_Monkey
: Personally, I'd be too ashamed that I'd written a song that was anything like 'Girlfriend' to sue anyone about it. I'd sit there and go "See? See? It wasn't me! Blame her! Blame it all on her!"POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:16 am / quote |
Bootsauce
: who effin cares? her demographic is now 6-10 year olds. way to go avril...../pukePOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:17 am / quote |
ugmung
: there was a ramones song called i wanna be your boyfriend....
haha what a Dyke POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:20 am / quote |
Sixpack5001
: song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the songPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:21 am / quote |
kaptink
: I thought of that song when the Avril lavigne one came out,POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:22 am / quote |
wiggyisgreat
: lol ouch, chili peppers all over again.
and "Dr. Luke" ? :PPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:24 am / quote |
Shabalaba
: Sixpack5001 wrote:
song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the song |
Strat_Monkey wrote:
Personally, I'd be too ashamed that I'd written a song that was anything like 'Girlfriend' to sue anyone about it. I'd sit there and go "See? See? It wasn't me! Blame her! Blame it all on her!" |
+1 +1 lmaoPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:26 am / quote |
Skarson
: Aidy Damage wrote:
It IS pretty much exactly like that song. The Ramones covered it. |
How could the Ramones cover a song in 1976 if the original came out in 1978?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:26 am / quote |
-Rock-N'-Roll-
: Sixpack5001 wrote:
song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the song |
I would be ashamed to write anything that avril would ever compose. What a no good fake to just destroy music with herself and now with copying other bands.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:28 am / quote |
TimMobbs
: Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:30 am / quote |
False_God
: meh.. I couldnt care really.
like I think to steal somes chorus is sad but I think even if they dont get anything off her its great publicity for the robinoos or what ever they are called!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:31 am / quote |
abs_n91
: Good. She finally faces some kind of punishment! But I'd still prosecute her for crimes against humanity tbh POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:31 am / quote |
TheDarkestNights
: The Ramones song bears NO similarity to that Lavigne "song".POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:35 am / quote |
thewho65
: Why hasn't Fergie been sued for stealing "Fergalicious" yet? (The original was called Supersonic recorded by an 80's female rap trio) They sound EXACTLY the samePOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:36 am / quote |
Eladamri
: | Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits. |
She clearly does it a lot.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:48 am / quote |
screamsoftly
: thewho65 wrote:
Why hasn't Fergie been sued for stealing "Fergalicious" yet? (The original was called Supersonic recorded by an 80's female rap trio) They sound EXACTLY the same |
She probably got permission.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:54 am / quote |
Aminos
: Strat_Monkey wrote:
Personally, I'd be too ashamed that I'd written a song that was anything like 'Girlfriend' to sue anyone about it. I'd sit there and go "See? See? It wasn't me! Blame her! Blame it all on her!" |
LOL you are right XDPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:55 am / quote |
Jonjy2
: Hahaha I agree with Strat_Monkey...But Im glad anyways POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:58 am / quote |
MrOtter
: yeah... Ramones didn't cover it, They just also have a song called "I wanna be your boyfriend". It sounds nothing like Avril's song, it doesn't make your ears bleed.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:01 pm / quote |
RaiLeff
: woah!
Downloading Rubinoos to see any matches!
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:10 pm / quote |
true_bacon22
: I didnt hate her before then I saw her video for girlfriend and i wa sjust like wow..
And im insulted that she is canadian.The way i see it all her canadian has worn off shes ****ing american she has been living in los angeles for like 5 years so shes americanPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:10 pm / quote |
Lou_dog 71
: hey
i agree with screamsoftly
ferdilious also has the same beat as james browns "Night Train"
people have no talent these daysPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:11 pm / quote |
Jett Diamond
: Haha I just listened to the Rubinoos song. The chorus is almost exactly alike. Hah wow. And before I just thought she made annoying music...Though the Rubinoos song is kind of fun and silly. I like it a little...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:13 pm / quote |
DR_SH
: OUCH. I've not heard anything off Avril's new album, but I've heard I'm not missing much. as for the law suit I'm not to sure. If they've had an independent party listen to both songs and they found no similarities, it sounds like the band that are suing are just looking for an ease target to make some cash out of.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:13 pm / quote |
jansa33
: MrOtter wrote:
yeah... Ramones didn't cover it, They just also have a song called "I wanna be your boyfriend". It sounds nothing like Avril's song, it doesn't make your ears bleed. | yeah im listening to it right now and they dont sound alikePOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:15 pm / quote |
browar
: yeah...but few years ago nobody noticed that Complicated is rip-off from Pink's Don't Let Me Get Me.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:15 pm / quote |
LORD V4DER
: Dude...you know way too much about girl pop.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:27 pm / quote |
that1l)ude
: i would be too embarrassed to say its my song.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:28 pm / quote |
Scourge441
: | Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.' |
Does Avril write anything on her own?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:36 pm / quote |
fender_NiNE
: this just made my day awesome. thank you for so much for your sucking and being un-original, avril lavigne.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:42 pm / quote |
Gibson_Rocker13
: | Lavigne's manager Terry McBride is insisting that there is nothing similar between the songs and has apparently had a musicologist confirm it. |
does anyone else find that completly pointless. if a song bears resemblence it doesnt matter what some dude says. **** hell say it sounds like a a death metal song if you pay him enough. if you make up enough bullshit that has slight amount of proof you save your assPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:42 pm / quote |
crasstastic
: Scourge441 wrote:
Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.'
Does Avril write anything on her own? |
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:43 pm / quote |
takeapicture
: i think the chilli peppers thing was a big coincidence but it is unlikely this is the same. caught by the balls!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:43 pm / quote |
crasstastic
: but the roobinoos song or whatever, sounds exactly the same, especially the chorus...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:43 pm / quote |
m
: You can hear the Rubinoos song here http://myspace.com/rubinoos
I don't know much about the Avril version except the chorus which is identical.
Hey hey you you I wanna be your boyfriend...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:46 pm / quote |
C&C Magik
: to the guys saying the ramones song doesn't sound like it, its not the ramones that are suing its the rubinoosPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:49 pm / quote |
str84ever
: Bah there is too much plagurism these days. I can't remember the name of the song but its by the Hollies
The verse bass is identical to Creep by Radiohead.
You could say its the exact same song except in the Hollies guitar is chorded and in creep it isn't.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:49 pm / quote |
Spydr
: Haha, I love it.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:52 pm / quote |
>>Max<<
: C&C Magik wrote:
to the guys saying the ramones song doesn't sound like it, its not the ramones that are suing its the rubinoos |
They're saying that The Ramones covered The Rubinoos. Which they're wrong about. They're not saying The Ramones are suing Avril.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:55 pm / quote |
Dinimean
: crasstastic wrote:
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you. |
GreenDay DO write their own music.
Get your facts straightPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:58 pm / quote |
Haha, Crackhead
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3rZEuR242Y
I'm gonna have to stick up for...*gasp* Avril */gasp* on this one. There's one similarity in the chorus. That's all.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 12:59 pm / quote |
SuPaGrAm
: Strat_Monkey wrote:
Personally, I'd be too ashamed that I'd written a song that was anything like 'Girlfriend' to sue anyone about it. I'd sit there and go "See? See? It wasn't me! Blame her! Blame it all on her!" |
+1
well saidPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:01 pm / quote |
-February-Star-
: They were talking about this on Radio 1 yesterday, they played both clips and they are EXACTLY the same.
I'd still bone her though.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:02 pm / quote |
Art Of Music
: Well.. This is just so good! Maybe we will get the Undermyskin Lavigne back? The true Avril! POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:09 pm / quote |
UncleCthulhu
: Dinimean wrote:
GreenDay DO write their own music.
Get your facts straight |
*Cough**Pachelbel's Canon**cough*POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:11 pm / quote |
Shaunstar
: How can you be sure that she "stole" the 70's song, it could of just been a massive coincidence, like when you say something and someone says that exact same thing at the same time, it could of just came to her so easily.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:11 pm / quote |
poona
: Wow, everybody is trying to cash in on Avril every way they can huh?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:16 pm / quote |
Dinimean
: UncleCthulhu wrote:
*Cough**Pachelbel's Canon**cough* |
Copying a chord sequence is not the samePOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:18 pm / quote |
[[.:jess:.]]
: UncleCthulhu wrote:
Dinimean wrote:
GreenDay DO write their own music.
Get your facts straight
*Cough**Pachelbel's Canon**cough* |
hahaha, nice. dont forget their latest disgrace, working class hero, that cover pisses me off more than anything.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:20 pm / quote |
Dabey
: this just made my dayPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:25 pm / quote |
macmancometh
: true_bacon22 wrote:
And im insulted that she is canadian.The way i see it all her canadian has worn off shes ****ing american she has been living in los angeles for like 5 years so shes american |
Sorry, she's Canadian. Don't try and put this one on USA.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:27 pm / quote |
demonhunter2
: she totally ripped off the chorus of that song...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:31 pm / quote |
PinkIsCool
: Shaunstar wrote:
How can you be sure that she "stole" the 70's song, it could of just been a massive coincidence, like when you say something and someone says that exact same thing at the same time, it could of just came to her so easily. |
The song is off a 2007 album I believe. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:38 pm / quote |
GodLess666
: why we allowed to bash her but when people bash fall out boy or avenged sevenfold you get a warning or deleted???? well yeah she suxPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:44 pm / quote |
scarfacesuit
: | I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.' |
um... have you heard the song? maybe it's not the same one. GOD people are stupid.
examples:
"My Way"- Limp Bizkit
"My Way"- Elvis Presley
"My Way"- Usher.
"Home"- Daughtry
"Home"- Three Days Grace
"Home"- Marc Broussard
if everyone quit being retarded then life would be so much easier. i don't like avril, but still...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:52 pm / quote |
Like I Is
: A musicologist? What the devil?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:55 pm / quote |
samerika
: xD
finally im unblocked and with such a good newsPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:56 pm / quote |
minichibi
: TimMobbs wrote:
Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk! |
Yeah cept green day doesnt call themselves punk nemore... He just says he likes the punk 'message'. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:58 pm / quote |
Korzack
: and drumrolll... Who gives a flying Dingo's testicle? Lavigne was hot when I was in school, but then I grew up :P.. Still, I'm not a man to turn down a freebie... lol As the fact my CD collection has '3 cheers...' hidden at the back.
Umm... Big deal, release it in Russia, lass - there's less copyright than there are Chevrolets over there.
(and scarfacesuit... you for got the Pistols version of 'my way' and Frank Sinatra's as well )POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 01:59 pm / quote |
22acacia
: TimMobbs wrote:
Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk!
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dont u have to be "rock" before you can ruin it? the only people that consider her pop music to be rock dont even matter anyways. In the words of Dio " They either are 10 years old or have the mentality of a 10 year old."POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:00 pm / quote |
si!
: haha, awesome.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:01 pm / quote |
lancelot121
: im not sure if someone has made this point because i cant be bothered reading all the comments, but the would you pass up on the chance of making a couple of million?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:06 pm / quote |
rage6945
: i just downloaded the rubinoos song, the chorus is exactly the same, the only word that was changed was Girlfriend to BoyfriendPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:09 pm / quote |
22acacia
: lancelot121 :
im not sure if someone has made this point because i cant be bothered reading all the comments, but the would you pass up on the chance of making a couple of million?
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If it came between the millions and my dignity then I would rather work hard and have an honest life and have piece of mind if that answers your question man POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:10 pm / quote |
BlazeBanderez
: How could the Ramones cover a song in 1976 if the original came out in 1978?
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I feel another Lawsuit coming.....POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:19 pm / quote |
Leonheart
: Lmao. It's exactly the same.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:19 pm / quote |
Gibson_Rocker13
: scarfacesuit wrote:
um... have you heard the song? maybe it's not the same one. GOD people are stupid.
examples:
"My Way"- Limp Bizkit
"My Way"- Elvis Presley
"My Way"- Usher.
"Home"- Daughtry
"Home"- Three Days Grace
"Home"- Marc Broussard
if everyone quit being retarded then life would be so much easier. i don't like avril, but still... |
maybe she meant the lyrics?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:20 pm / quote |
neidnarb11890
: Skarson
How could the Ramones cover a song in 1976 if the original came out in 1978? |
The Ramones have magic powers. Dee Dee went forward in time and stole the song.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:25 pm / quote |
Slipping_Away
: She has no songwriting talent whatsoever. That's why whenever you see a live performance on TV or whatever she's always covering some Green Day or Sum 41 song, haha.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:31 pm / quote |
Jeff123
: | However, McBride is apparently prepared to settle out of court of the suit becomes too expensive to fight. Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits | Wow, insurance that allows one to go around the law, letting them plagurize whatever they want. How can she even defend herself with somthing like that? Correct me if I mis-interpreted that paragraph.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:31 pm / quote |
theartistofwar
: Avril is a theiven hoe i mean why is she even on this website she is a trash guitar player with her new fangled I-IV-V progressions she stole those from the blues! that bitch! everything she does is just to hop on the musical bandwagon if she could play guitar worth a damn she would try to copy Satch and Vai and then she have tracks call For the love of god ****ing *****POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:33 pm / quote |
22acacia
: Jeff123 :
However, McBride is apparently prepared to settle out of court of the suit becomes too expensive to fight. Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits
Wow, insurance that allows one to go around the law, letting them plagurize whatever they want. How can she even defend herself with somthing like that? Correct me if I mis-interpreted that paragraph.
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Sad to say bud but if youve got the money in the states u can get out of anything. Ever seen Idiocracy where he states "You'll go back to jail because you dont have enough money." Same situation here. Idiocracy is now.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:35 pm / quote |
theartistofwar
: oh thos last two words rhyme with trucking and doorPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:35 pm / quote |
elcapitan1800
: Wow, those songs sound A LOT alike. I would say good luck in court Avril, except that I hate you. And the Ramones didnt cover this song, they have a song of the same name.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:36 pm / quote |
22acacia
: elcapitan1800 :
Wow, those songs sound A LOT alike. I would say good luck in court Avril, except that I hate you. And the Ramones didnt cover this song, they have a song of the same name.
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Again, she doesnt need luck, she has a major recording label with a fistful of highly trained lawyers and legal consultants not to mention the get out of jail free card aka shitloads of cash oh ya and america doesnt normally tend to do much in the ways of punishing our young blonde singers/actresses.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:39 pm / quote |
Cobalt Blue
: | and has apparently had a musicologist confirm it. |
lol had a musicologist confirm it... i just find that hilarious.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:53 pm / quote |
m
: Checked. sheesh.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:54 pm / quote |
King ofKumbucha
: hahaha The chorus sounds VERY similar and the drums during the verses. Still, both versions suck big time. Hope they get their money from the plagiarizing *******.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:55 pm / quote |
InsomniaRocks
: I listened to the ruinoos song...except for the chorus I didn't think they sounded alll that much alike. But I'm not meaning to defend Avril, who is an absolutely garbage "musician". Fuck, I guess I did.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:56 pm / quote |
MetalorDIE
: i love how these "big" popstars become soo fmaous when they cant even come up with their own ideas for songs and have to steal off other people. That's why metal is soo much better and more talented than pop and always will be =D. Avril is only good to jerk off to and thats it, other than that, her music sucks!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:57 pm / quote |
Son_of_Kyuss
: She's Canadian retard. So is Chantal Kreviazuk. The real justice will be among the fans, people will she Avril for what she really is, a figurehead. If you look at the writing credits for any of her records she doesn't write anything herself. Personally I know the bass player that quit her band after he wrote "Sk8er Boi" and she didn't credit him with anything on the album. She can't write songs herself, and she's basically the Canadian Ashley Simpson.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 02:59 pm / quote |
Ivory_Soul
: I agree with everyone on here. Her demographic dropped from mature 14+ to 6-10 yr old little girls walking around in small skirts and make-up. Avril is either on drugs or has just completely flipped because she sucks big time now. You can now pin her up next to Hilary Duff, Jessica/Ashley Simpson, Britney Spears, Christina Fagulera, Fefe Dobson, Hanna Montana and all those other wanna besPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:00 pm / quote |
boor
: one time i got a hummer from a girl that looks like her
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MadGoat
: Just listened to the song on YouTube. Doesn't really sound alike at all. The chorus maybe, but that's about it. I think it's a bit lame to sue her for just that. They're just in it for the money.
Either way, I don't care.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:05 pm / quote |
MadGoat
: Besides, lovesongs and especially a line like "I wanna be your boyfriends" are so frickin' cliche thousands of artists have done the same thing anyway.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:08 pm / quote |
Zell182
: I thought it sounded like that 'hey Micky you so fine' song but mehPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:09 pm / quote |
meta1militia
: i've heard the song on the news yesterday and i thought they sounded EXACTLY alike, with avrils going a bit faster. she obviously had copied atleast PART of the song, its too similarPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:11 pm / quote |
AlchoholicA
: I knew she stole it right from the start...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:13 pm / quote |
Thomaslikespigs
: yes. the songs are very similar in lyrics, and sort of similar in music.
and if we didnt already establish this, the ramones song is NOT a cover of this one. they're completely different songs.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:14 pm / quote |
Mahoru
: So great!! Now she should go to court and lose, and have to pay an enormous fine she couldn't pay, and go to prison and die there, thinking on everything she's done!!! Wait... she can't think by herself, I forgot that... Well, his manager will help her xDDPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:17 pm / quote |
MadGoat
: So it's okay if the Ramones steal this song, but if Avril does it it's a disaster?
I don't really care about Avril, but I sense some hypocrisy going on here. Most likely Avril hasn't even heard of that Raboonos song, or whatever they're called.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:19 pm / quote |
KingSquall802
: omg that was really selfish. even if the song "contagious" was good or bad, u still have to give credit to the one who did or partly did it.
i can compare with almost every bands here on the philippines, whose every songs were all about their loved one, the whole album. total crap. and they know nothing but to cover/revive old good songs and butchered it. and make their own stupid video as if they are the one who really wrote it. i hate my own country's music.
Girl pop no more. Thrash Metal rules.
"smells like lawsuit".
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The Lizard
: yeha thats crazy the ramones covered the song, then she goes and rips it off, B****POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:20 pm / quote |
dimebagsmygod
: A classic way for a band to get known. Avril sucks anyway.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:21 pm / quote |
swillard8
: OMG they are the same! she cant get sued for it, its only the chorus thats similar, she must have listened to it and been inspired by it!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:33 pm / quote |
sc_stanger
: how the hell would she even know that was a song hahaPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:34 pm / quote |
AnoKid09
: Skarson wrote:
Aidy Damage wrote:
It IS pretty much exactly like that song. The Ramones covered it.
How could the Ramones cover a song in 1976 if the original came out in 1978? |
time travel , my friend
XDPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:34 pm / quote |
petergreen
: sounds too me like Mr.Rubinoo ripped off The Rolling Stones' "Get Off Of My Cloud". completely.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:35 pm / quote |
Potato_Souffle
: I'm going with "Similar enough to where the law suit isn't total trash, but I would personally wouldn't judge the song as being stolen." The Rubinoos also recently released a box set of their music, so it seems possible that it's an attempt to get some notice.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:35 pm / quote |
7_seven_7
: I don't even care about Avril at all. I just find it funny that there's 104 comments on this article, when from what i can see.. none of you even like her.
haha. I laughed at the guy who said "and 6yr olds with mini skirts and makeup walking around". hahahaha, what 6yr old does that? POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:35 pm / quote |
12led12345
: Musicologist BS! Maybe a deaf one wouldn't hear the similarities but I do and I'm no Musicologist. Avril Lavigne used to be one of those semi-cool f*** everyone punk rocker. Now she just sucks. It's just too bad she'll probably win the case if there even is one.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:37 pm / quote |
mojomike
: LMAO no matter how much a HATE that dam Girlfriend song by Lavigne i had to check this out for myself. I downloaded that Rubinoos song and listened to it and laughed like a little girl. The only thing that the two songs hav in common is that they both suck! B/W the two songs theres one line that sounds the same and everything else is completely different in its own shitty way. I think this is just a pathetic attempt by a bunch of washed up fags to try and grab sum money before they die. No matter how little respect i hav left for Avril i cant stand people like that who just wait around for someone to sue to get sum publicity. GO DIE YOU DAMN FAGS!!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:40 pm / quote |
goldbuddist
: Sixpack5001 wrote:
song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the song |
i would if it meant suing this talentless ho and winning lots and lots of MONEY!!!
either way F**K Avril Lavigne and anything related to her.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:43 pm / quote |
samick007
: everybody is talking about how theres so much plagerism. WELL OF COURSE THERES GONNA BE PLAGERISM. rock music has been around long enough, and theres only so many ways you can change a few chords to make it sound differentPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:43 pm / quote |
Conky420
: goldbuddist wrote:
Sixpack5001 wrote:
song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the song
i would if it meant suing this talentless ho and winning lots and lots of MONEY!!!
either way F**K Avril Lavigne and anything related to her. | boy would i like to =]POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 03:55 pm / quote |
King ofKumbucha
: boor wrote:
one time i got a hummer from a girl that looks like her
|
Nice. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:02 pm / quote |
K!!LsWiTcH
: -February-Star- wrote:
They were talking about this on Radio 1 yesterday, they played both clips and they are EXACTLY the same.
I'd still bone her though. |
+1 Me too! POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:02 pm / quote |
GuitarUltimate?
: Wow, okay, Ultimate Guitar posted this after MSN has already had it up for a day. Thats just sad.
Also...
Strat_Monkey wrote:
Personally, I'd be too ashamed that I'd written a song that was anything like 'Girlfriend' to sue anyone about it. I'd sit there and go "See? See? It wasn't me! Blame her! Blame it all on her!" |
+1POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:06 pm / quote |
joelstarr
: whatever Green Day rules
TimMobbs wrote:
Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk! | POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:11 pm / quote |
better_than_you
: shes married to that dude from sum 41 anyway so why the hell would she want to be someone elses girlfriend....dirty slutbagPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:13 pm / quote |
BlazeBanderez
: Hands up, Who's heard of "The Rubinoos" before this article?
How many more veiws on myspace do you reckon this article has got them?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:20 pm / quote |
TriFrce
: i don't understand why the ramones were brought in. http://www.rubinoos.com/ has a song that is NOT the one by the ramones. so. yeah. i understnad the titles are the same, or w/e, but this wasn't about them. =)POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:21 pm / quote |
joelstarr
: whatever dude Green Day rules. they may have changed thier look a little but the music is still the same as it's always been. i chalk up thier new look to the fact that they've probably changed alot emotionaly. those guys are like 35 now thier adults and they're just acting like it. I mean look at goth kids and emo kids and even punk kids they may be all for it now but eventually they've gotta grow up. that's just the way it is. I mean if I'm still wearing Metallica and GNR shirts when I'm 40 than somebody shoot me please. I'm not saying I won't like GNR or Metallica anymore, I'll still love those bands but I'll just grow up. your gonna do it to TimMobbs. It's life buddy. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:22 pm / quote |
gibsonrocker917
: hehe - that's great...terrible..but great...
wait...she had to have a CO. WRITER for that song?!
my...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:28 pm / quote |
joelstarr
: I don't like Avril. she's cute but that's about itPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:30 pm / quote |
RachelRC
: What a great get rich quick scheme
"hey that song sounds like one of mine, I think I'll sue and get some money instead of working hard to make it in the music bussiness like the artist I am going to take to court, yay!"
There's a reason almost everyone in the world knows who avril is and doesn't know who the "RUBINOOS" are.
The whole "Contagious" thing is queer too, I mean, seriously there are a ton of song titles that are the same, if it isn't the exact song that that person wrote and sent to avril then they can't really say anything because titles are always going to be the same.
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:45 pm / quote |
Zoso68
: i wanna know how and/or why one buys insurance to cover plagerism chargesPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 04:45 pm / quote |
lars17
: serves a right bitch!**** tht gay ass music,,,she realy blew when she covered fuel by metallica ahiwle back,,tht was gayer then timePOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:01 pm / quote |
Rizzo!
: This gets to be a real problem. Even "enter sandman" James hetfield copied off of another band.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:08 pm / quote |
evanfan
: well maybe they should just calm down a bit, they perhaps should feel priviledged that such a big star is doing stuff similar to theirs. avril is too talented to have to "steal" stuff =]POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:11 pm / quote |
tamargoguitar
: I knew i heard that melody before....lol
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:14 pm / quote |
scarfacesuit
: joelstarr wrote:
whatever dude Green Day rules. they may have changed thier look a little but the music is still the same as it's always been. i chalk up thier new look to the fact that they've probably changed alot emotionaly. those guys are like 35 now thier adults and they're just acting like it. I mean look at goth kids and emo kids and even punk kids they may be all for it now but eventually they've gotta grow up. that's just the way it is. I mean if I'm still wearing Metallica and GNR shirts when I'm 40 than somebody shoot me please. I'm not saying I won't like GNR or Metallica anymore, I'll still love those bands but I'll just grow up. your gonna do it to TimMobbs. It's life buddy. |
i'm sorry, i don't like when people flame greenday or anything, but i have to get this out...
they're 35 and adults and acting like it? are ya kidding me? greenday is "scene".
let's analyze this:
emo- your 13 year old brother's music
scene- your 8 year old sister's music.
any questions?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:21 pm / quote |
scarfacesuit
: Like I Is wrote:
A musicologist? What the devil? |
"a musicologist is a man who can read music but can't hear it"
-sir thomas beecham. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:23 pm / quote |
SmokeScreem01
: id release a song like that with a plastic bag around my head and the a paper bag overtop of that...i hate avril, honestly. she markets to 8-12 year olds now and i dont really get it....
oh, musicologist, HA dear God, what is next?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:28 pm / quote |
ValenceElectron
: Look, Avril is lyrically-challenged, we all know that.
I am with Strat_Monkey, I would never come out and say that airhead stole one of my songs.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:28 pm / quote |
Jawkster
: YES, even Hilary Duff > Avril now.
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:40 pm / quote |
Toaster Pastry
: I don't know if she stole the lyrics or not, but how can you even tell? Nearly every pop song is about sex.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:41 pm / quote |
Nybb
: | and has apparently had a musicologist confirm it. |
A musicologist? That's a job? XD
But yeah, as funny as it would be for her to get owned, I really don't think the songs have that much in common. Who's ever heard of the Rubinoos before this anyway? I highly doubt somebody like Lavigne would have ever heard of them to copy them anyways.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:49 pm / quote |
Iplaytogetgirls
: "Hey hey You You" is the only thing that sounds the same. That broke band was probley waiting for an oppertunity like this. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:49 pm / quote |
Bpags868
: Hmmmmm.....just watched a vid on youtube comparing the two songs. They chorus sounds almost the same in the two songs. But, it seems like like someone else had that chorus before Avril and before The Rubinoos. The Rubinoos obviously stole that chorus from "Get Off Of My Cloud" by The Rolling Stones. Then The Rubinoos stole it from them, and Avril stole it from the Rubinoos. So actually, Avril and The Rubinoos should both be getting sued by The Rolling Stones!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:50 pm / quote |
zakkwyldeisgayy
: [quote]joelstarr wrote:
whatever Green Day rules
Green Day should be sued.
Jesus of Suburbia = "On with the show" by Motley Crue
It is note for note and melody for melody the same song. I could list 20 more songs they have done the same, but Jesus of Suburbia is just a complete copy.
Down with Greeday and down with Canada! POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:51 pm / quote |
zakkwyldeisgayy
: [quote]joelstarr wrote:
"whatever Green Day rules"
Green Day should be sued.
Jesus of Suburbia = "On with the show" by Motley Crue
It is note for note and melody for melody the same song. I could list 20 more songs they have done the same, but Jesus of Suburbia is just a complete copy.
Down with Greeday and down with Canada! POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:52 pm / quote |
Styx
: Sixpack5001 wrote:
song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the song |
yeah, agreed with that!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 05:58 pm / quote |
zAg1619
: Bah, the Stones have enough money as it is.. And have they not already sued the verve(?) for bittersweet symphony?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:02 pm / quote |
GuitarSymphony
: what?! I want to be a musicologist! w/e that isPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:03 pm / quote |
Echelon
: Can someone explain WTF a Musicologist is?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:08 pm / quote |
Svea_Trollblod
: zakkwyldeisgayy :
[quote]joelstarr wrote:
"whatever Green Day rules"
Green Day should be sued.
Jesus of Suburbia = "On with the show" by Motley Crue
It is note for note and melody for melody the same song. I could list 20 more songs they have done the same, but Jesus of Suburbia is just a complete copy.
Down with Greeday and down with Canada! |
They are not the same?? anyway, green day sucks...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:17 pm / quote |
cefasnacht
: Just check the song in question out on i-tunes, i'm convinced she ripped it of:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/vie wAlbum?playlistId=7231139&s=143441&i=7231129
if you click on that itunes will open up, but check it out! kinda funny, i just wonder if the ramones said this band stole this song from them? btw...i'd still bang avril!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:20 pm / quote |
cefasnacht
: ^ sorry thought links might work in here!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:20 pm / quote |
TheGuitarDreams
: Echelon wrote:
Can someone explain WTF a Musicologist is? |
Yes, what the hell is a musicologist? Just someone who gets paid to listen to music? Cause that would be the shit.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:20 pm / quote |
myself101
: zakkwyldeisgayy wrote:
Jesus of Suburbia = "On with the show" by Motley Crue
It is note for note and melody for melody the same song. I could list 20 more songs they have done the same, but Jesus of Suburbia is just a complete copy.
Down with Greeday and down with Canada! |
And Motley Crue stole it from Bryan Adams!!
The RHCP stole Dani California and others on SA.
Everybody is stealing songs these days, Avrils was just a little too close to bluff her way out of it.
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:31 pm / quote |
m
: Am I the only person that likes Avril Lavigne?
If so, good times.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:33 pm / quote |
AGirlCalledIt
: Yes! She's annoyed me with her bitchin n whinin for years and now she actually has a reason to bitch n whine! For the record i have never liked her, even when i was 12 i had more sense!
P.S. Does anyone else think she looks like Evan rachael wood in that photo? (the girl in the 'wake me up when september ends' video)POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:35 pm / quote |
SkyValley
: Well what do you expect from some untalented Canadian high-school dropout? Not to mention a rather ugly one.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:39 pm / quote |
DJChaos182
: the song was NOT covered by the Ramones
anyway on topic Arvil lavigne sucks and all she does is cover good songs by Sum 41, Green Day and Blink-182.
and when she releases something its all copied and shitPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:41 pm / quote |
Hypnotik
: God, the girl is such a ****tard.
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 06:59 pm / quote |
Aziraphale
: Ugh. I like how, in the video for Girlfriend, this boring, geeky girl with the glasses get totally bullied by blonde cheerleader girl, who also steals her boyfriend. And YAY so the geek got pwned WTF?? This chick has become everything she used to stand against, I have absolutely no respect for her whatsoever. And the video has a goddamn dance scene in it?!POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:04 pm / quote |
Aziraphale
: Oh btw a musicologist is like a historian of music. Basically their job is to have heard all music and have it stored in files so they can analyse and compare when stuff like this comes up. A good way to avoid contributing to the society.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:08 pm / quote |
gamayshark
: ha. my girlfriend loves that song. Can't wait to play her that Rubinoos song. It'll really piss her off.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:12 pm / quote |
blacksabbath7
: i hate when people steal songs. listen to the acdc song high voltage and then listen to scattered by greenday. if u dont have them on cd u can find them both on youtube.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:13 pm / quote |
Set-Abominae
: SkyValley wrote:
Well what do you expect from some untalented Canadian high-school dropout? Not to mention a rather ugly one. |
I'll have to disagree with that one. If she's anything, it's severely bone-able.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:15 pm / quote |
Schmietty
: God I hate that song, why would another band take credit for it.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:16 pm / quote |
bassplaya369
: thank you GOD
i hope she done for...
and how the @#$% do start arguing about greenday and motley crue and other bands when the best thing is happening in main-stream media history? hope hope her carrer gose down the drain.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:24 pm / quote |
Td_Nights
: "Lavigne's manager Terry McBride is insisting that there is nothing similar between the songs and has apparently had a musicologist confirm it."
Musicologist?What's up with that?Probly just some Douche who got fired from the RIAA,and that's about as low as you can go.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:37 pm / quote |
Td_Nights
: blacksabbath7 wrote:
i hate when people steal songs. listen to the acdc song high voltage and then listen to scattered by greenday. if u dont have them on cd u can find them both on youtube. |
And that has to do with what,exactly?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:38 pm / quote |
Td_Nights
: scarfacesuit wrote:
joelstarr wrote:
whatever dude Green Day rules. they may have changed thier look a little but the music is still the same as it's always been. i chalk up thier new look to the fact that they've probably changed alot emotionaly. those guys are like 35 now thier adults and they're just acting like it. I mean look at goth kids and emo kids and even punk kids they may be all for it now but eventually they've gotta grow up. that's just the way it is. I mean if I'm still wearing Metallica and GNR shirts when I'm 40 than somebody shoot me please. I'm not saying I won't like GNR or Metallica anymore, I'll still love those bands but I'll just grow up. your gonna do it to TimMobbs. It's life buddy.
i'm sorry, i don't like when people flame greenday or anything, but i have to get this out...
they're 35 and adults and acting like it? are ya kidding me? greenday is "scene".
let's analyze this:
emo- your 13 year old brother's music
scene- your 8 year old sister's music.
any questions? |
Was that 'Analyze' part a sexist comment?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:42 pm / quote |
ontherun
: How can all of you take this Avril Lavigne chick seriously? The last good songwriters that came out of Canada were Robbie Robertson and Neil Young in the 60s, and I haven't heard of another one since...
And why would you take a song like "Girlfriend" seriously? That's not a song, its a product. So is Avril Lavigne... It's not music... And neither is she... And anyone who describes her as a "musician" or her work as "music" should be hanged...
By the way;
Musicology is the scientific study of music. MUSIC - OLOGY.
i.e.: biology, ecology, geology, etc, etc...
So, obviously, a musicologist is one who studies music...
I would wager no one here has a degree in musicology, by the sound of it.
POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:43 pm / quote |
yawn
: *sigh*
So much idiocy in these UG boards. I can't believe the retardation required to say something as inane as "omg why would anyone want to admit to writing such an awful song?!?!?!", when this is a multi-million dollar product we're talking about there.
And anyone who thinks this is a rip-off of that "Hey Micky" song just because it has a similar style and vibe needs to take a look an the entire punk genre and the entire metal genre.
And calling Green Day rip-offs because Basketcase using the same chord progression as Canon in D is laughably rediculous.
And for all the self-proclaimed, so-called "music-loving rockers" who don't even know what a musicologist is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicologist
| [ b]Td_Nights[/b] wrote:Musicologist?What's up with that?Probly just some Douche who got fired from the RIAA,and that's about as low as you can go. | Too bad a musicologist will always have a deeper understanding of music than 99% of any of the retards on this forum.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 07:52 pm / quote |
dain84
: joelstarr wrote:
whatever dude Green Day rules. they may have changed thier look a little but the music is still the same as it's always been. i chalk up thier new look to the fact that they've probably changed alot emotionaly. those guys are like 35 now thier adults and they're just acting like it. I mean look at goth kids and emo kids and even punk kids they may be all for it now but eventually they've gotta grow up. that's just the way it is. I mean if I'm still wearing Metallica and GNR shirts when I'm 40 than somebody shoot me please. I'm not saying I won't like GNR or Metallica anymore, I'll still love those bands but I'll just grow up. your gonna do it to TimMobbs. It's life buddy. |
I love Green Day, but their new stuff is pop-rock, the old stuff was pop-punk. How is wearing makeup and skinny ties "growing up?" It's not.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:01 pm / quote |
clazz
: Who would want to admit to writing a song that sounds remotely like that?!
Haha, sucks for Lavigne though, her new stuff is awful.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:08 pm / quote |
sassamafras
: i laughed sooooo hard when i heard about it on E Talk on CTVPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:14 pm / quote |
ironman316
: only the choruses are the same. gay. making a big deal out of nothing.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:18 pm / quote |
jimmy, the one
: Shaunstar wrote:
How can you be sure that she "stole" the 70's song, it could of just been a massive coincidence, like when you say something and someone says that exact same thing at the same time, it could of just came to her so easily. |
That sounds like a good alibi...
Maybe i should coincidently sopy all of stadium arcadium and take all the credit...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:21 pm / quote |
unforgiven1234
: HAHA!!! the chorus's sound exactley alike!!! funny..... I dont like Avril Lavine but shes pretty hot with black hair.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:26 pm / quote |
spiderfizz
: i just heard the avril song for the first proper time, and the funniest thing about the song are the lyrics she made up herself.....
"your so fine i want you mine your so delicious"
and pretty much the whole verse and alterations of that.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:32 pm / quote |
pkweon
: screamsoftly wrote:
thewho65 wrote:
Why hasn't Fergie been sued for stealing "Fergalicious" yet? (The original was called Supersonic recorded by an 80's female rap trio) They sound EXACTLY the same
Sampling may be? | POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 08:57 pm / quote |
invader_pino
: ok, this is just too funny. First off Avril's music sucks, its nothing more than media produced mainstream vomit that kids who want to push the social envelope can do without losing the respect of their peer groups. Second, has anyone ever heard of The Rubinoos until this post, really? Last thing, in today's "hip-hop" genre, you can get away with anything as long as you say its sampling. Like look at what happened to The Police, Led Zeppelin, Queen (though vanilla got busted) and Ozzy. POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:07 pm / quote |
iheart_a7x
: The sounds similar, but I don't think Avril Lavigne stole it. I don't lie Avril, but a lot of songs do sound the same in a way. Just cause it's similar doesn't mean she stole it. Maybe she did. We won't know unless Avril admits it.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:25 pm / quote |
GuitarCrazyFrog
: Hrm, Its about time. Maybe this will bring down here music career. I dont necissarly think her music is crappy, but its ripped off and she dares claim to be rock. Avril Lavignes music is as much rock as Scott Weiland is Straight Edge.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:26 pm / quote |
Skinny'sguitar
: ok so we all know she isn't that talented she writes fun easy songs, and is sucessful at it, but so is green day a band that also cover I want to be your boyfriend, which sounds nothing like avrils and, I'm sure a coincidence happened, but the people that write simple songs, have the same simple music, thats why they sound the same, but I'm definitely not saying greenday and avril sound the same, but the guitar does, simple chords, and who cares anyway it's not like that other bands gonna make money, so they write shitty songs and then sue people, clever, but then again so is the name Rubinoos wtf?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:29 pm / quote |
thx4thevenom32
: i also think its funny that she's married and then made that song... i mean like.. what kind of wife does that?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:32 pm / quote |
metalmaster362
: this type of shit goes un noticed all the time, atreyu blatently ripped off of in flames in the song right side of the bed. listen to the hive by in flames and then right side of the bedPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:36 pm / quote |
Daisuke001
: I thought it sounded a lot like Hey Micky and I thought her other song Keep holding on sounded like a rip off of welcome to the black parade.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:39 pm / quote |
Bag0Dimes
: crasstastic wrote:
Scourge441 wrote:
Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.'
Does Avril write anything on her own?
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you. |
Yeh for the first album or two.... or all if your manufactured, but when green day signed to Reprise about 14 years ago... I some how doubt that they had there stuff written for them then, or written for them now... Since when have bands like FoB sang about masturbating become too boring?
I used to be a green day fan, n i dont hate them i just listen to other stuff now. And if Avril looses the case then.... yay but it wont stop her career, maybe just tarnish her rep with preteen girls a bit.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:41 pm / quote |
merfsullivan
: I just listened to the Rubinoos song on their MySpace, musically and lyrically the songs couldn't be any less alike. The only similarity is the chorus starts by saying, "Hey, You I wanna be your ___friend". I know that's the same, but the rest is wholly different.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:48 pm / quote |
Scotdizzle
: I think all pop artists should sue all other pop artists because they ALL SOUND THE SAME.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:52 pm / quote |
sexmeister
: ok the guys a retard avrils girlfriend song came out how long ago and he just decideds 2 sue her now what a ****in idiotPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 09:56 pm / quote |
StratPat
: Scotdizzle :
I think all pop artists should sue all other pop artists because they ALL SOUND THE SAME. |
So true.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:02 pm / quote |
yawn
: Scotdizzle wrote:
I think all pop artists should sue all other pop artists because they ALL SOUND THE SAME. | You mean like punk and metal?POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:07 pm / quote |
ryanmartinie123
: i hope they put her out of bussiness and the cow gos bankrupt.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:09 pm / quote |
THEBLIZZARDKING
: She didnt even write the song. This bitch writes none of her songs, her "Co-writers" do.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:13 pm / quote |
metall909
: lol i fuking laughed my ass off when i heard thisPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:15 pm / quote |
rygaud1234
: Huge Gig-normous list of every single song that has ever even been accused of plagerism, and suprisingly, Avril's crime doesn't seem so bad compared to some others. May I suggest Tom Petty-Mary Jane's Last Dance, compared to RHCP- Dani California? And yes, I know most of the site is in German, but if you scroll down a bit, you'll get to a mostly English section.
http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/%7Eudgk/plagi.p hp POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:27 pm / quote |
Shredder Guitar
: good. i dont know how much more i could stand of that sadistice chanting: "YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH".... creative songwriting, avrilPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:32 pm / quote |
King ofKumbucha
: yawn wrote:
Scotdizzle wrote:
I think all pop artists should sue all other pop artists because they ALL SOUND THE SAME.You mean like metal? |
Failure.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:45 pm / quote |
magnus_maximus
: Deserves everything she gets, talentless *****. If you want a cheap laugh, watch the video with the speakers off; it's hysterical :hahaPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:46 pm / quote |
pawnluv
: the songs sound nothing like each other, get over itPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:56 pm / quote |
Aftertime
: she should just go metal or something abit more gutsy, then I'll be interested :PPOSTED: 07/06/2007 - 10:59 pm / quote |
dookie_dude_
: well i guess i can stop sending her hate mail, since so many others will now POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:04 pm / quote |
Tsunoyukami
: I heard this a day or two ago and immediately went to hear The Rubinoos. I'm now in love with then and I worked out I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend by ear...POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:17 pm / quote |
rock_or_roll
: Aziraphale :
Oh btw a musicologist is like a historian of music. Basically their job is to have heard all music and have it stored in files so they can analyse and compare when stuff like this comes up. A good way to avoid contributing to the society. |
i bet its better than wat u do POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:25 pm / quote |
yawn
: | King ofKumbucha wrote:Failure. | Applies to pop no more than it does to metal. Don't be naive.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:27 pm / quote |
the_bi99man
: HA!
I don't even give a crap if she wrote the song or not, it's straight sh!t, anyway. I used to have at least one strand of respect for Avril Lavigne because she was a girl who, while being extremely pop, still had at least a hint of rock to her tunes. Then I heard "Girlfriend". It brought back memories of Britney Spears that I thought I had forgotten. Then I realized that even Britney Spears was better than that.POSTED: 07/06/2007 - 11:48 pm / quote |
Joker 21
: hahahaha sue her ass so hard plz do so that she thinks twice about ever making music again!! Hey im canadian and i dont care im willing to lose an artist so what who gives a flying rat's ass!!!!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:08 am / quote |
Joker 21
: i smell a cat fight between chantal and avril it shall be called "The Songstress Ring" and they shall fight it out there!!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:13 am / quote |
batman123
: its such a generic sound, how could that say that she stole it? plus the rubinoos are like a pussied version of the ramones, and they stole their song title. They're just looking for some sue money because they couldn't make any money off of record sales because the rubinnewws sucked monkey cock!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:55 am / quote |
batman123
: oh and id love to get avril in the sackPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:56 am / quote |
sweetbassplayer
: has ayone noticed that no a SINGLE oy likes htis song? just the girls do?POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:57 am / quote |
sweetbassplayer
: avril is jsut too pathetic tyo try and wite hr song, and the irdge in that og is just ABSOLUTELY terrile! just lik th whole osng! AND avril1POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:59 am / quote |
wongtong
: SUE HER.
I actually liked her old stuff.
But now its just.....POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:03 am / quote |
ModestPixies16
: Thats cool. although I do have to say that i'm sure alot of songs in the world sound the same, so its possible that its just a coincodence. But I would not be suprised in the least bit if avril did steal this song and could care less if she gets sued.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:04 am / quote |
crueddude
: "Green Day should be sued.
Jesus of Suburbia = "On with the show" by Motley Crue
It is note for note and melody for melody the same song. I could list 20 more songs they have done the same, but Jesus of Suburbia is just a complete copy.
Down with Greeday and down with Canada!"
I dont like Green Day anymore, but thats one of the dumbest accusations I have read in a while. Im a Motley Crue fan, hince my screen name, and in no way does Jesus of Suburbia sound like On With The Show. Quit being a homer. POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:21 am / quote |
DamageMachine
: Lol, the only positive comments she ever got on here was just a bunch of guys saying how much they wanna plow herPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:47 am / quote |
ssk9716757
: I haven't heard the Rubinoos version of the song, but Avril's version is just *gags*. Her old stuff was better.
P.S. I would bang her so hardPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:48 am / quote |
MasterofOrion
: This is definately a chick song. I hated since the first time I heard it.
I used to love avril, I though she was HOTT and talented.. but i was wrong, shes just hott. She's singing about what she used to stand against. For that, I have no respect for her.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:53 am / quote |
Nomadboy
: I hope she ends up as a hobo, I hate her music, I hate her followers, I hate everything about her.
I'm ashamed to say I can actually play one of her songs though. But, immediately after learning it, I looked back, horrified at what I'd done, and immediately quit my band of two years which I had forced me to play it.....
Anyway, yeah, I hate the bitch, haha.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:59 am / quote |
CapnKickass
: i don't mind her, beats the shit out of backstreet boys and fergiePOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:00 am / quote |
CapnKickass
: crueddude wrote:
"Green Day should be sued.
Jesus of Suburbia = "On with the show" by Motley Crue
It is note for note and melody for melody the same song. I could list 20 more songs they have done the same, but Jesus of Suburbia is just a complete copy.
Down with Greeday and down with Canada!"
I dont like Green Day anymore, but thats one of the dumbest accusations I have read in a while. Im a Motley Crue fan, hince my screen name, and in no way does Jesus of Suburbia sound like On With The Show. Quit being a homer. | oh yeah Canada FTW! POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:01 am / quote |
Steriogramrules
: I think girlfriend is a rubbish song, but i actually dont mind some of her stuff...and she's married to one of my heroes so yea... and she does beat the shit out of backstreet boys and fergie lol...except fergies new song is actually pretty goodPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:07 am / quote |
Agent-K
: crasstastic wrote:
Scourge441 wrote:
Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.'
Does Avril write anything on her own?
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you. |
Thing is, Avril NEVER wrote her own music to begin with.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:21 am / quote |
tunasband
: I read about this crap on AOL. I laughed. It was great. lol.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:22 am / quote |
slayer7666
: hahahah
i find this quite funny
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:31 am / quote |
bertong_putik
: Avril is really hot!! hahaha
she should stop singing and copying songs!!!
she is better to be a pornstar!!!
anyone would like to petition for her to be a pornstar?? hahahahaPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:57 am / quote |
crueddude
: Elvis never wrote any of his songs either. Just a FYI.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:09 am / quote |
skater38
: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:11 am / quote |
jAck tHE ®iPper
: | Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk! |
+1 ... your dam right therePOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:14 am / quote |
langerz
: Rizzo! wrote:
This gets to be a real problem. Even "enter sandman" James hetfield copied off of another band. |
What?!?POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:37 am / quote |
korn_dawg
: But.. that songwriter forgets that, in order to copy it, Avril has to hear his crappy song.. and then care about it.. he gives himself a lot of credit, methinks..POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:29 am / quote |
nodice182
: it's what, like 4 chords?
shock horror, big deal.
i agree with that guy. this dude gives himself way too much credit.
i don't like the last paragraph of the article, it's put in specifically to shape peoples opinions of the issue at hand. it should be more objective.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:41 am / quote |
100%guitarmad
: BOO YAKA SHA! YES YES! DOWN WITH THE BITCH!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:43 am / quote |
Rodders
: The chorus sounds similar, but only in the same way that both songs sound like 'Get off of my cloud' by the Rolling Stones.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:55 am / quote |
ClassicalGuitar
: TimMobbs wrote:
Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk! |
You don't know how happy I am to see that there is some sanity left in this worldPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:03 am / quote |
Cresspo
: Scotdizzle wrote:
I think all pop artists should sue all other pop artists because they ALL SOUND THE SAME.
You mean like punk and metal? |
Hmm that's why they call it a genre, right?
sweetbassplayer wrote:
avril is jsut too pathetic tyo try and wite hr song, and the irdge in that og is just ABSOLUTELY terrile! just lik th whole osng! AND avril1 |
Do you even know how to type correctly?
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:11 am / quote |
Jastul
: wow, so not only did she sell out, she did it by plagiarizing a song that was bad thirty years ago and somehow managed to make it worse? way to go avrilPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:38 am / quote |
Kirenjob
: Jastul wrote:
wow, so not only did she sell out, she did it by plagiarizing a song that was bad thirty years ago and somehow managed to make it worse? way to go avril |
+1 hahaPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:08 am / quote |
Magero
: "Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits."
Well....that says alot for her ability to write original music doesn't it.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:11 am / quote |
Anti-h3r0
: [quote="sweetbassplayer"]has ayone noticed that no a SINGLE boy likes this song? just the girls do?[/quote]
I find that insulting.
Just because I don't have a penis, I don't listen to shit like this. Get the **** outta here, dude.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:37 am / quote |
Scarlatti
: Art Of Music wrote:
Well.. This is just so good! Maybe we will get the Undermyskin Lavigne back? The true Avril! |
Hope so... She was cool before she turned into a complete douchebagPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:51 am / quote |
huevos
: at least Canada has Protest The Hero and Alexisonfire to make up for this atrocity.
"Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits."
LOL! this is just horrid! idk that you could have insurance that covers your ass for "accidental" copyright infringement!?
damn thats just bad. this concept shouldn't even exist.
Jastul wrote:
wow, so not only did she sell out, she did it by plagiarizing a song that was bad thirty years ago and somehow managed to make it worse? way to go avril
|
lol, a sad day for music.
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:52 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: Calm down, just because the tunes are quite same, it doesn't mean she rippe4d them off!!! read this interview, I'm in her side!! the reason why this issue became bigger is because she's too popular and the suers only wants ****ing money!!! It's a coincidence you doucebags who started hating her!!!
read this article that Av speaks about it!!!
dont know if this has been posted, if so sorry.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=28472456 9
To My Dear Media, Friends, and Fans
To my dear media, friends, and fans,
You may have heard some news that two guys who wrote for some band from the 1970s I have never in my life heard of called the "Rubinoos" are trying to sue me. They have a song called "I Want To Be Your Boyfriend" that has no musical similarities to the song "Girlfriend" that Luke Gottwald and I wrote together. They claim that a small part of the lyrics are the same and are saying that I took these from them. I had never heard this song in my life and their claim is based on 5 words! All songs share similar lyrics and emotions. As humans we speak one language.
Off the top of my head, two other songs that I can immediately think of with this type of lyric are "Hey, hey, you, you get off of my cloud" by the Rolling Stones and "Hey little girl I want to be your boyfriend" by the Ramones. Simply put, I have been falsely accused of ripping their song off. Luke and I have done nothing wrong and there is no merit to their claim.
And slap in the face #2
I was going to be the bigger person and not reply when I read Chantal Kreviazuk's article in Performing Songwriter magazine. Now that all the media have caught on to her little interview, I need to speak. Chantal's comments are damaging to my reputation and a clear defamation of my character and I am considering taking legal action. Chantal has accused me of taking a song idea from her because I happen to have a song on my new record with the same title.
For the record, I wrote a song with Evan Taubenfeld which coincidentally has the same title as a song Chantal had sent me a few years ago. Our songs have no similarities and opposite meanings, i.e. different lyrics, different melody, different genres. In Chantal's own words "the only similarity is in the title." I originally wrote this with Evan for his record and I ended up with it. Funny enough when I decided to put "Contagious" on my album we had to change the words from "she" to "he" in order for it to work on my record. There are hundreds of songs out there with the title "Contagious," 75+ on iTunes alone.
Chantal has also made false accusations about my writing skills. I am so over this topic. This letter is not about this. I am not going to sit here and defend my writing skills. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I know who I am and what I have done and accomplished and no one can take that away from me.
My decision to discontinue working with Chantal after co-writing together on my second record was simply based on the fact that we had no hits together. That is why her name is not on this record, despite her numerous attempts to be included, which were always denied. From my perspective this is a clear case of bitterness. Chantal is upset that she didn't get to be a part of my record. She did email me after the article came out apologizing and I forgive her but I have to put the truth out there so my fans are not confused by these false accusations.
Let it be crystal clear that I have not ripped anyone off or done anything wrong. I have never had to deal with anything publicly like this and surely never wanted to. I do not deserve this negative press and attention. I take pride in the songs that I write and appreciate the opportunities to work with some great writers and musicians.
My fans have been so dedicated to my music and it is because of them that I have this amazing career. Thank you again to my fans for continuing to be so supportive. This is a very positive time for me in my life. I have a very successful career and I feel very lucky to have accomplished all that I have. I am so thankful every day.
I would like to say more but my lawyers have advised me not to. Why is it when you get to a certain level people want to attack you?.... and now I have said my piece.
Avril
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:03 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: OMG this became a news everywhere
stay strong Av!!!!
I'm always at your side no matter what happens!!!! and the song is just a coincidence!!! there are many "hey heys" in different songs!!!
FUCK THOSE moneymaking douchebags!!!!
I'm glad that you already forgiven Chantal, your ex-best friend!!!
And **** to those who think that Avril can't write her songs!!! you're just ****ing envy because she's too popular!!!
Haters, **** off!!!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:25 am / quote |
mattb91
: Avril has no talent at all. I hope she gets sued so we never have to hear her sh!tty music ever againPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:31 am / quote |
mattb91
: Magero wrote:
"Lavigne has insurance that covers such lawsuits."
Well....that says alot for her ability to write original music doesn't it. |
haha Avril is such a dumbassPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:32 am / quote |
Birdy266
: Who'd want to claim their song sounds that bad XDPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:36 am / quote |
bokuho
: 'Girlfriend' and 'Contagious' are the two worst tracks on her latest album (which is saying alot); why the hell would anyone WANT to claim they had written the 'originals' of these?POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:46 am / quote |
Children Of War
: Oh wow...its been well over a few months and NOW shes being sued?
a lil late isnt it?
On a side note, sweet, if avril loses the case it will have to be taken down...I hated that song for it is everywherePOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:13 am / quote |
Guitar4Girl
: Sometimes lyricists and artists get ideas from from other songs for their work, what i'm trying to say is that in this day its kinda hard to come up with something completely orignal.
I hope i'm not making this too confusing, but i just thought that i'd raise this point...POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:25 am / quote |
tilleking
: notsaorroz wrote:
she cant write songs, **** her pop shit. metallica for life |
For God's sake, grow up and don't mock other stuff with no reason.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 09:30 am / quote |
Insanity207
: Ok agree the song suck nuts and all i hate it, but Avril... well she's hott, she's got some pull here POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 09:42 am / quote |
Nddesh
: lol how can she steal their song.. the songs are different.. Rubinoos who's that?! no one tabed them here lolPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:11 am / quote |
Mazz-
: I Don't Know about this shit here. I mean everyone's gonna comedown on Avril because Some unsuccesful 70's bullshit artist performed a song that has some similarities to this song. I mean Me, Personlly I've heard this song before, & in my opinion, it sounds to me like it was PERFECTLY AIMED for Avril's Key Demographic. Which makes me feel as though she probably wrote it herself... I Don't Suppose any of you Professional Music Scene Masters have ever heard about how Led Zeppelin got Sued by Willie Dixon for Stealing ENTIRE SONGS from Willie Dixon & Changing like two words in the Song's Main Title & Chorus & Passing it off as their own....like Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love" was Actually Willie Dixon's "You Need Love" & the song "Bring it Home" from Led Zeppelin II was a complete Rip-Off from Willie Dixon...Dixon Sued Zeppelin & in Both Cases Dixon won those Law Suits. But All I ever hear from Zeppelin Fans is how much of a Genius Robert Plant & Jimmy Page are...& How Awesomely Original they are...& they Ripped off Willie Dixon...& all of you people are gonna Jump onto the band wagon & say that her main Chorus for Girlfriend had the same words as that thing the Ramones Covered....I Saw if you're gonna jump on Avril, I want to see you people jump on Zepplin too (Plus I think the Real Issue about this song is Avril Lavigne Singing about how she wants to be MY Girlfriend (or Your Girlfriend, or that Guy Over there's Girlfriend)....when she's allready Married to that Dickless, No-Talent Crotch-Gremlin from Sum-41...POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:16 am / quote |
Xx_banx
: lol is this really that surprising?POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:35 am / quote |
mike420666
: If they take all her money she can come stay at my placePOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:57 am / quote |
stabyourback
: i just read that statement she gave on her myspace. did she need a co-writer to help her write that too?
she should start acting her age - i mean prancing about in fishnets n eyeliner when shes suposed t be married and everything. grow up!
n shes defintely going t get more publicity now after this whole situation. so what if she loses the case, a few million wont affect her will it? n the more publicity she gets then the more it will piss people off. so jus bear with it guys, she'l soon be yesterdays news n that awful eyeliner is soon to get smudged etc etc POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:15 am / quote |
tjones17
: thank god i hate this song it gives punk music a bad namePOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:18 am / quote |
MattIgoe0108
: In all honesty, who cares? It will all be decided eventually, regardless of what we or anyone else thinks about the situation.
I have to say, i found this comment in the letter a bit stupid though;
"I am so over this topic. This letter is not about this. I am not going to sit here and defend my writing skills"
Well, if i were being sued for plagairsm, thats the first thing i'd be doing. There's a lot of arrogance it seems here, and for some reason, i get the feeling that when she thanks her fans at the end, she doesn't really mean it. Don't know why, it just comes off that way.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:21 am / quote |
Encore_Angel
: Guitar4Girl wrote:
Sometimes lyricists and artists get ideas from from other songs for their work, what i'm trying to say is that in this day its kinda hard to come up with something completely orignal.
I hope i'm not making this too confusing, but i just thought that i'd raise this point... |
You're not a songwriter, are you, guitar4girl?
You're the reason people call girls ditzy. Please give up guitar. ^_^. It's fine to get ideas from songs, but not to copy parts.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:28 am / quote |
Encore_Angel
: And yes... It is a shitty song either way... POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:29 am / quote |
Falacy
: I think it serves Avril right...anyone could write a song that they have heard before. The bad thing is that its such a big hit with little preteen girls. Hope she lands in jail and that song is off the radio, but shes a pop star...what are the chances of that???POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:41 am / quote |
coryklok
: watch shes goin to jail then shell pull a paris hilton
lolPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:00 pm / quote |
Eskimohoe
: lmao i can see it.. the musicologist is Deryk Whimbley(her husband, for those of you who don't know.) Damn you avril, now that your all famous and such you just let go. I mean, when she realeased her first album, she had to work for it..this one was just like... she sang. nothing else, i doubt she even wrote half the songs on their.
shes still hot. Even if she is a theiving hoe!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:11 pm / quote |
fish182
: its about time sum1 sued her, it sounds exactly the same (well the chorus does), oh and Gibson_Rocker13 all those people who did "my way" an "home" got permission, she didnt. i hope she goes to jail, even if it is for 5 minutes....POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:22 pm / quote |
steph_04
: hmm, maybe you guys should read this before believing everything you hear:
To my dear media, friends, and fans,
You may have heard some news that two guys who wrote for some band from the 1970s I have never in my life heard of called the "Rubinoos" are trying to sue me. They have a song called "I Want To Be Your Boyfriend" that has no musical similarities to the song "Girlfriend" that Luke Gottwald and I wrote together. They claim that a small part of the lyrics are the same and are saying that I took these from them. I had never heard this song in my life and their claim is based on 5 words! All songs share similar lyrics and emotions. As humans we speak one language.
Off the top of my head, two other songs that I can immediately think of with this type of lyric are "Hey, hey, you, you get off of my cloud" by the Rolling Stones and "Hey little girl I want to be your boyfriend" by the Ramones. Simply put, I have been falsely accused of ripping their song off. Luke and I have done nothing wrong and there is no merit to their claim.
And slap in the face #2
I was going to be the bigger person and not reply when I read Chantal Kreviazuk's article in Performing Songwriter magazine. Now that all the media have caught on to her little interview, I need to speak. Chantal's comments are damaging to my reputation and a clear defamation of my character and I am considering taking legal action. Chantal has accused me of taking a song idea from her because I happen to have a song on my new record with the same title.
For the record, I wrote a song with Evan Taubenfeld which coincidentally has the same title as a song Chantal had sent me a few years ago. Our songs have no similarities and opposite meanings, i.e. different lyrics, different melody, different genres. In Chantal's own words "the only similarity is in the title." I originally wrote this with Evan for his record and I ended up with it. Funny enough when I decided to put "Contagious" on my album we had to change the words from "she" to "he" in order for it to work on my record. There are hundreds of songs out there with the title "Contagious," 75+ on iTunes alone.
Chantal has also made false accusations about my writing skills. I am so over this topic. This letter is not about this. I am not going to sit here and defend my writing skills. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I know who I am and what I have done and accomplished and no one can take that away from me.
My decision to discontinue working with Chantal after co-writing together on my second record was simply based on the fact that we had no hits together. That is why her name is not on this record, despite her numerous attempts to be included, which were always denied. From my perspective this is a clear case of bitterness. Chantal is upset that she didn't get to be a part of my record. She did email me after the article came out apologizing and I forgive her but I have to put the truth out there so my fans are not confused by these false accusations.
Let it be crystal clear that I have not ripped anyone off or done anything wrong. I have never had to deal with anything publicly like this and surely never wanted to. I do not deserve this negative press and attention. I take pride in the songs that I write and appreciate the opportunities to work with some great writers and musicians.
My fans have been so dedicated to my music and it is because of them that I have this amazing career. Thank you again to my fans for continuing to be so supportive. This is a very positive time for me in my life. I have a very successful career and I feel very lucky to have accomplished all that I have. I am so thankful every day.
I would like to say more but my lawyers have advised me not to. Why is it when you get to a certain level people want to attack you?.... and now I have said my piece.
Avril
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:33 pm / quote |
fade_to_black18
: i +1 to every comment on this page against Avril ...ew....POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:34 pm / quote |
MattIgoe0108
: steph_04 wrote:
hmm, maybe you guys should read this before believing everything you hear:
|
Well the people who are sueing her have their evidence for it being a ripoff out in the open. Miss Lavigne, however, has nothing to back her statement up at all. There's nothing to say she's not lying. In fact, as i said above, to me the whole statement comes across with a degree of arrogance and hypocrisy. POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 12:43 pm / quote |
silentdud
: Well I guess I should believe my friend who has for years been harassed for claiming that she stole one of his own songs... Hes a song writer. I always thought he was full of shit which is why this caught my eye so quickly.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 01:44 pm / quote |
Pathogen
: Avril's only talent is stealing songs. :|
And she's not even good at that. :|POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:11 pm / quote |
TimMobbs
: ClassicalGuitar wrote:
TimMobbs wrote:
Unlucky Lavigne. Hopefully this is the beginning of your long awaited downfall. She has possibly, single handedly, reduced rock's dignity to the likes of the Backstreet Boys, in the same way Green Day did to the name of punk!
You don't know how happy I am to see that there is some sanity left in this world |
I think most of the people on here are using the copying thing as a valid excuse to have a laugh about her, I think people are more concerned about seeing her crash and burn rather than being offended for the great dignity of 'music' for her copying someone else. Her song sucks and so does the Rubinoo's version.. it's like a sugar coated Ramones song for christ sakes.. Jimmy Page did rip the riff that everyone knows for Stairway To Heaven from acoustic guitarist Davy Graham afterall, but no one complains because Led Zep are the shiznit and Avril is balls. sorry to have offended all the hardcore Green Day fans either, they'd crap on Avril anyday, even now.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:15 pm / quote |
gibsonbrothers
: lol the chorus of that Rubinoos song sounds like it exactly... it goes... Hey(hey) You(you) I wanna be your boy friend!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:24 pm / quote |
brian_s
: scarfacesuit wrote:
examples:
"My Way"- Limp Bizkit
"My Way"- Elvis Presley
"My Way"- Usher.
"Home"- Daughtry
"Home"- Three Days Grace
"Home"- Marc Broussard
if everyone quit being retarded then life would be so much easier. i don't like avril, but still... |
Ok, you got a point there.
Nirvana - Dumb
Garbage - Dumb
Radiohead - Creep
STP - Creep
Kyuss - Thong song
Sisco - Thong songPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:25 pm / quote |
big_chuck
: crasstastic wrote:
Scourge441 wrote:
Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.'
Does Avril write anything on her own?
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you. |
Greenday writes their own stuff and so does Fall Out Boy. The majority of it anyways. You're sorta retarded. POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:36 pm / quote |
VolKate
: ontherun wrote:
How can all of you take this Avril Lavigne chick seriously? The last good songwriters that came out of Canada were Robbie Robertson and Neil Young in the 60s, and I haven't heard of another one since...
And why would you take a song like "Girlfriend" seriously? That's not a song, its a product. So is Avril Lavigne... It's not music... And neither is she... And anyone who describes her as a "musician" or her work as "music" should be hanged...
By the way;
Musicology is the scientific study of music. MUSIC - OLOGY.
i.e.: biology, ecology, geology, etc, etc...
So, obviously, a musicologist is one who studies music...
I would wager no one here has a degree in musicology, by the sound of it. |
Tegan and Sara are from Canada and they have songs with meaningful lyrics.
I like Avril and so what if she has a younger demographic. Maybe yonger people want to listen to music too.
And everyone who thinks that her songs are gay obviously have not listened to the words. They're about guys. So if you're going to speak English, learn it. This comming from a gay person.
To all of you who don't like Avril: You don't have to listen to her and not everyone in the world is here to please you.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:39 pm / quote |
dyaspin
: Not trying to defend Avril or anything, but I don't think she's the guilty party. She's a big enough artist that she'd know better than to steal someone else's music, because she'd know the repercussions. There's millions of songs out there, so there's bound to be some songs that sound alike. It's the way probability and coincidence works.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 02:51 pm / quote |
The Extremist^
: geeez, she HAD TO copy that c*ap?? Couldn't she write a *hitty song like that herself? (I mean, it's not very difficult to compose something like that, stealing it shows a complete lack of songwriting talent, or total lazyness...)
it was quite funny to find out that you have to be either 10 y o old gay to listen to Lavigne ^ xDPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:08 pm / quote |
xtreme450
: I'd still do her, even if she can't write her own music.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:12 pm / quote |
Kinderfeld
: Avril used to be decent, but now she's just a freaking sellout =(POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:12 pm / quote |
dain84
: THE RAMONES DID NOT COVER I wanna be Your Boyfriend!! Fuck you people are dumb. The Rubinoos song came out in 1978 and The Ramones song came out in 1976. The two songs have nothing in common except for the title.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:14 pm / quote |
noahray
: wait, ultimate guitar posts yet ANOTHER NEWS ARTICLE ON AVRIL LAVIGNE... can they seriously not find ANY better news stories? avril doesn't even play guitar, or have a real band.
i was given a faint glimmer of hope when i saw the Aborted article (despite it's total failure) but this is just too muchPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:16 pm / quote |
The Extremist^
: Kinderfeld wrote:
Avril used to be decent, but now she's just a freaking sellout =( |
ok, who isn't these days (very sad but true fact)POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:17 pm / quote |
addvie
: good info but serves her right the sneeky bitch!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:34 pm / quote |
guitarist41
: Funny as.
Damn she's hot though...POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:41 pm / quote |
Emmett@guitar
: avril was already sued for putting f*** you on autographs,so good for her!!! POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 03:58 pm / quote |
fenderboy20
: wow.
i just listened to the rubinoos song and it sounds exactly the same.
who cares?
shes hot.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:02 pm / quote |
The-Red-Sky
: screamsoftly wrote:
thewho65 wrote:
Why hasn't Fergie been sued for stealing "Fergalicious" yet? (The original was called Supersonic recorded by an 80's female rap trio) They sound EXACTLY the same
She probably got permission. |
Yea thats different. It was sampled for background music. This is songwriting. Somehow ones fine and the other isnt. O.oPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:05 pm / quote |
DarKMaTTeR.tm
: I've heard the two songs and they have nothing in common apart from a line, where the rythm and the lyrics are very similar and that's it.
So this thing about copying is just bullshit.
A sucky band is trying to make profit from a similarity to another sucky song that became a hit. It's even sadder than the existance of GirlfriendPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:28 pm / quote |
AngelOfHatred
: At least rip off a good song, avril, god. Stupid *****.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:28 pm / quote |
AngelOfHatred
: (Hope the Rubinoos win, by the way. Avril sucks ***)POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:29 pm / quote |
Megalomaniac16
: i dont really care who wrote the song, but anything that discredits her stupid poser a** is good news to me.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 04:56 pm / quote |
N031
: Haha, Crackhead :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3rZEuR242Y
I'm gonna have to stick up for...*gasp* Avril */gasp* on this one. There's one similarity in the chorus. That's all. |
Wow, I hate to say it but the songs aren't the same. There's only one ****ing similarity. I hope she tries to get something out of the gargbage disposal with her middle finger so someone can turn it on and have her lose it so she can stop being a ****in' poser and flip people off to be kool. I'd let her keep the other one just to see if she'd appreciate it more.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:00 pm / quote |
N031
: Haha, Crackhead :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3rZEuR242Y
I'm gonna have to stick up for...*gasp* Avril */gasp* on this one. There's one similarity in the chorus. That's all. |
Wow, I hate to say it but the songs aren't the same. There's only one ****ing similarity. I hope she tries to get something out of the gargbage disposal with her middle finger so someone can turn it on and have her lose it so she can stop being a ****in' poser and flip people off to be kool. I'd let her keep the other one just to see if she'd appreciate it more.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:03 pm / quote |
spikedemon!
: I dont think she writes any of her own songs. she didn't have the willpower to stay in school, she doesn't have it to write an original song either. She needs to take a nice long break from writing albums.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:05 pm / quote |
TinTin8
: im disgusted that i share the same country with her
... 1) they songs are very similar
2) she stole chantels song.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:09 pm / quote |
saosin22533
: crasstastic fall out boy and green day write their own stuff...pete wentz writes fall out boy's lyricsPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:10 pm / quote |
BoredomCase
: Haha! Her career was already slipping, and now she's getting sued? This is just all too good.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 05:59 pm / quote |
lucas_22
: kaalplaysguitar wrote:
wait whys that fake bitch on this website anyway |
exactly, shes a pop princess now, not a rockstar,
you'll probally see her in j-14 magazine more than Guitar world nowPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:04 pm / quote |
Encore_Angel
: VolKate wrote:
To all of you who don't like Avril: You don't have to listen to her and not everyone in the world is here to please you. |
Well, no, but the fact that she's getting sued did a good job of making me happy ^_^. So, someone obviously is. POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:13 pm / quote |
Mr.Awesome
: she has 0 respect from me, never did, never will
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:16 pm / quote |
guitars4all
: she definitely deserves it no doubt...but shes got all those yes-men lawyers to help cover herself up which sucksPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:33 pm / quote |
rock4christ
: but she looked pretty hot in the video (for Avril) the song still sucks but she looked hot POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:41 pm / quote |
Sid Vicouis
: i really dislike her selling out with her song "girlfriend". i dont care whose song it sounds like, or who she copied. i have never recognised her as something great. if she wants to win back everyone, and pick up new fans along the way she should make the hardest punk rock song ever that feels as if salt and lemon juice are being poured into scabs allover your body make from a great fall down the rocky mountains, creating a roar so thunderous that, the chasing of dogs and cats, unleashed from an empire of Romans, scream the last scream of pure darkness that depresses even the most beautiful of fairies, (the scream) released from the depths of hell with fires and lava that burn and seep into the underground, and angels of the abyss appear to suck the life and breath from your lips man, or woman, as it does not care, for you fenile human-hey!...i dont think i like your girlfriend. or to simply put in words, she should cover the pixies' the sad punk to express her emotions, please view at the following tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-nupsJvJg . as she starts to use her larynx you will be able to hear a sound similar to 1000 screeching locusts, and you will rush to hide away your delicate ears.anyways..im getting too old for this.
tootles!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 06:48 pm / quote |
DarKMaTTeR.tm
: i really dislike her selling out with her song "girlfriend". i dont care whose song it sounds like, or who she copied. i have never recognised her as something great. if she wants to win back everyone, and pick up new fans along the way she should make the hardest punk rock song ever that feels as if salt and lemon juice are being poured into scabs allover your body make from a great fall down the rocky mountains, creating a roar so thunderous that, the chasing of dogs and cats, unleashed from an empire of Romans, scream the last scream of pure darkness that depresses even the most beautiful of fairies, (the scream) released from the depths of hell with fires and lava that burn and seep into the underground, and angels of the abyss appear to suck the life and breath from your lips man, or woman, as it does not care, for you fenile human-hey!...i dont think i like your girlfriend. or to simply put in words, she should cover the pixies' the sad punk to express her emotions, please view at the following tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-nupsJvJg . as she starts to use her larynx you will be able to hear a sound similar to 1000 screeching locusts, and you will rush to hide away your delicate ears.anyways..im getting too old for this.
tootles! |
WTF
have you been smoking something? That's the longest nonsense I think I've ever read. ffsPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:11 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: i dont really even know anyone who listens to avril lavigne. anyways i hate popular music and sellout artist. boring, no instrumental talent and they are overplayed on the radio.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:16 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: Sid Vicouis wrote:
i really dislike her selling out with her song "girlfriend". i dont care whose song it sounds like, or who she copied. i have never recognised her as something great. if she wants to win back everyone, and pick up new fans along the way she should make the hardest punk rock song ever that feels as if salt and lemon juice are being poured into scabs allover your body make from a great fall down the rocky mountains, creating a roar so thunderous that, the chasing of dogs and cats, unleashed from an empire of Romans, scream the last scream of pure darkness that depresses even the most beautiful of fairies, (the scream) released from the depths of hell with fires and lava that burn and seep into the underground, and angels of the abyss appear to suck the life and breath from your lips man, or woman, as it does not care, for you fenile human-hey!...i dont think i like your girlfriend. or to simply put in words, she should cover the pixies' the sad punk to express her emotions, please view at the following tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-nupsJvJg . as she starts to use her larynx you will be able to hear a sound similar to 1000 screeching locusts, and you will rush to hide away your delicate ears.anyways..im getting too old for this.
tootles! |
I agree with darkmatter.tm what fairies coming out of the depths of hell have to do with avril lavigne.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:19 pm / quote |
Joshuar
: The original song by the Rubinoos is alot better in all honesty, and only resembles the HEY HEY YOU YOU shitass bit.
Nothing worth sueing over, let alone using a musicologist..POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:38 pm / quote |
Metal_Rich
: -February-Star- wrote:
They were talking about this on Radio 1 yesterday, they played both clips and they are EXACTLY the same.
I'd still bone her though. |
+1POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:44 pm / quote |
ticklemeemo
: For some reason, every time an artist "sells out" they change into a more 'hip-hoppish' style. Since hip-hop is popular now, for some odd reason, I would guess this is their producer/manager/publisher's fault. This is probably so they can max out sales, but seeing as how the fans who liked the previous sound made the artist popular, this really makes no sense. I mean, if 50 Cent
suddenly became a grunge/hardcore/screamo artist would he still be popular with the rap demographic? Or would a grunge fan buy that cd?POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:48 pm / quote |
Expiredyouth
: She's always pissed me off. I thought her self-proclaimed punk rockness was especially annoying. But I'm glad they got her by the testies. I just checked both songs out and they do sound pretty similar. While I don't care for either (they both suck balls.. the Rubinoos sound better though.. and Avril's lyrics sound totally bitchy and stuck up)no one should get away with stealing material. It could be a coincidince, maybe she's a dirty theif that deserves to be exposed for what she is. Her and her unknown, under-credited bandmates could disband and return to the nether regions of hades for all I care.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:52 pm / quote |
cannster
: avril lavigne ****ing blows...I hope the lawsuit takes everything she has...POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:53 pm / quote |
titsmcgee852
: [quote]screamsoftly wrote:
thewho65 wrote:
Why hasn't Fergie been sued for stealing "Fergalicious" yet? (The original was called Supersonic recorded by an 80's female rap trio) They sound EXACTLY the same
yeah its sounds exactly the same, they cant come up with their own musicPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 07:56 pm / quote |
AngelOfHatred
: Sid Vicouis wrote:
i really dislike her selling out with her song "girlfriend". i dont care whose song it sounds like, or who she copied. i have never recognised her as something great. if she wants to win back everyone, and pick up new fans along the way she should make the hardest punk rock song ever that feels as if salt and lemon juice are being poured into scabs allover your body make from a great fall down the rocky mountains, creating a roar so thunderous that, the chasing of dogs and cats, unleashed from an empire of Romans, scream the last scream of pure darkness that depresses even the most beautiful of fairies, (the scream) released from the depths of hell with fires and lava that burn and seep into the underground, and angels of the abyss appear to suck the life and breath from your lips man, or woman, as it does not care, for you fenile human-hey!...i dont think i like your girlfriend. or to simply put in words, she should cover the pixies' the sad punk to express her emotions, please view at the following tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-nupsJvJg . as she starts to use her larynx you will be able to hear a sound similar to 1000 screeching locusts, and you will rush to hide away your delicate ears.anyways..im getting too old for this.
tootles! |
Crack addict. I'd still think she's a poser ***** after that, but, still, that'd be pretty insane.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:05 pm / quote |
rider of pigs
: has anyone else noticed how " The ABC song" sounds exactly like "twinkle twinkle little star"? i smell conspiracyPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:11 pm / quote |
Jau_Peacecraft
: Her "explanation" (also heavily self incriminating) made me LawLs so hard. It's so rewarding to see the science of natural selection diligently doing it's job. POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:16 pm / quote |
TheZookeeper
: My bandmates sung Avril's 'Girlfriend' song to me at band practice. Should I leave my band?POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:30 pm / quote |
Sid Vicouis
: ^muhahahahahha, join me zookeeper.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:33 pm / quote |
AvrilFanUK
: Avril Lavigne is da best punk singer ever!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:39 pm / quote |
WhereArtEsteban
: Whoever did "do yo chain hang low" should be sued for ripping off the icecream truck songPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 08:45 pm / quote |
Mackee
: hehe poor avril, her image was stained by a mere COINCIDENCE. Well it do happen most of the time.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 09:04 pm / quote |
XxXpunkkidXxX
: hello. like Gibson_Rocker13 pointed out. EVERY1 COPIES EVERY1S SONG THESE DAYS SO DONT PICK ON AVRIL. juz coz u dislike her doesnt mean u have 2 point out all her faults. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE AVRIL TILL DEATH AND I DONT CARE WHO OR WAT SHE IS. juz coz she is 2 american coz she has lived there her whole life doesnt mean anything so i suggest that u's build bridges and GET OVA IT!!!!! u wouldnt hope for ur fave singer/band to get sued juz coz they have a few of the same words or guitar riffs as another band... thats my say and i hope u's use it in some way coz i really think u's need 2 byePOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 09:35 pm / quote |
XxXpunkkidXxX
: oh... and AvrilFanUK :
Avril Lavigne is da best punk singer ever!
i love you whoeva u are lol do u agree to wat i said just b4??? coz if u dont could u plz tell me coz i would like to know if u think the same cyaPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 09:38 pm / quote |
XxXpunkkidXxX
: i played "girlfriend" 4 my music assesment task at skool this year and i loved it, does that mean i should get sued 4 coping 'her' song... im outta here bye reply plz i would like to know wat u's all thinkPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 09:41 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: hey you know whats weird is mechanix from megadeth has the same vocal tune as metallicas 4 horseman. POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:24 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: steph_04 wrote:
hmm, maybe you guys should read this before believing everything you hear:
To my dear media, friends, and fans,
You may have heard some news that two guys who wrote for some band from the 1970s I have never in my life heard of called the "Rubinoos" are trying to sue me. They have a song called "I Want To Be Your Boyfriend" that has no musical similarities to the song "Girlfriend" that Luke Gottwald and I wrote together. They claim that a small part of the lyrics are the same and are saying that I took these from them. I had never heard this song in my life and their claim is based on 5 words! All songs share similar lyrics and emotions. As humans we speak one language.
Off the top of my head, two other songs that I can immediately think of with this type of lyric are "Hey, hey, you, you get off of my cloud" by the Rolling Stones and "Hey little girl I want to be your boyfriend" by the Ramones. Simply put, I have been falsely accused of ripping their song off. Luke and I have done nothing wrong and there is no merit to their claim.
And slap in the face #2
I was going to be the bigger person and not reply when I read Chantal Kreviazuk's article in Performing Songwriter magazine. Now that all the media have caught on to her little interview, I need to speak. Chantal's comments are damaging to my reputation and a clear defamation of my character and I am considering taking legal action. Chantal has accused me of taking a song idea from her because I happen to have a song on my new record with the same title.
For the record, I wrote a song with Evan Taubenfeld which coincidentally has the same title as a song Chantal had sent me a few years ago. Our songs have no similarities and opposite meanings, i.e. different lyrics, different melody, different genres. In Chantal's own words "the only similarity is in the title." I originally wrote this with Evan for his record and I ended up with it. Funny enough when I decided to put "Contagious" on my album we had to change the words from "she" to "he" in order for it to work on my record. There are hundreds of songs out there with the title "Contagious," 75+ on iTunes alone.
Chantal has also made false accusations about my writing skills. I am so over this topic. This letter is not about this. I am not going to sit here and defend my writing skills. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I know who I am and what I have done and accomplished and no one can take that away from me.
My decision to discontinue working with Chantal after co-writing together on my second record was simply based on the fact that we had no hits together. That is why her name is not on this record, despite her numerous attempts to be included, which were always denied. From my perspective this is a clear case of bitterness. Chantal is upset that she didn't get to be a part of my record. She did email me after the article came out apologizing and I forgive her but I have to put the truth out there so my fans are not confused by these false accusations.
Let it be crystal clear that I have not ripped anyone off or done anything wrong. I have never had to deal with anything publicly like this and surely never wanted to. I do not deserve this negative press and attention. I take pride in the songs that I write and appreciate the opportunities to work with some great writers and musicians.
My fans have been so dedicated to my music and it is because of them that I have this amazing career. Thank you again to my fans for continuing to be so supportive. This is a very positive time for me in my life. I have a very successful career and I feel very lucky to have accomplished all that I have. I am so thankful every day.
I would like to say more but my lawyers have advised me not to. Why is it when you get to a certain level people want to attack you?.... and now I have said my piece.
Avril |
(gasp) Blashphemy, u r not avril
by the way once again isnt it weird that megadeths song mechanix has the same tune as the four horseman by metallica. also why do populer artist get more money when less people actually listen to them.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:33 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: rad82 wrote:
Avril Lavigne is da best punk singer ever!
So... um... you are an idiot xxxpunkkidxxx because if you think that avril lavigne is punk in the first place you are another one of the hopeless idiots this country has to offer why don't you go tell johnny rotten or fat mike that she is punk; they'll bash your skull in to the point where you might figure out that punk actually has substance behind it not extremely unballsy lyrics and prepubescent girls. And another thing if you are saying everybody copys everybody you obviously have been brainwashed by the shit mtv feeds you everyday while you wish you could be like all of those fake bands who are only in music because of the fame and fortune and somehow get away with ripping off everybody else and blending in to whatever is popular while you are sitting on your ass wishing you could be in a "sweet band" like them or even play guitar for that matter or even make something at all out of your pitfull existance on this planet but of course you won't because my super sweet sixteen is on which is just about as punk as avril lavigne. And i really hope you got laughed out of your school for playing girlfriend as your music assesment. There is hardly anything to assess in the first place. Why don't you figure out what real punk is and i might sound like a know it all or something but im right. So get a life. |
sry to tell you this but avril sort of is punk. plus punk doesnt have much substance behind it, just a repeated pattern of 3 different powerchordsPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:35 pm / quote |
A monkey
: XxXpunkkidXxX wrote:
i played "girlfriend" 4 my music assesment task at skool this year and i loved it, does that mean i should get sued 4 coping 'her' song... im outta here bye reply plz i would like to know wat u's all think |
your not making any money off it im guessing.
Fact: Avril ripped off the Rubinoos
Fact Avril is hot
Fact: the two above facts are unrelated
the monkey has spokenPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:38 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: quote]megadethisbeast wrote:
rad82 wrote:
Avril Lavigne is da best punk singer ever!
So... um... you are an idiot xxxpunkkidxxx because if you think that avril lavigne is punk in the first place you are another one of the hopeless idiots this country has to offer why don't you go tell johnny rotten or fat mike that she is punk; they'll bash your skull in to the point where you might figure out that punk actually has substance behind it not extremely unballsy lyrics and prepubescent girls. And another thing if you are saying everybody copys everybody you obviously have been brainwashed by the shit mtv feeds you everyday while you wish you could be like all of those fake bands who are only in music because of the fame and fortune and somehow get away with ripping off everybody else and blending in to whatever is popular while you are sitting on your ass wishing you could be in a "sweet band" like them or even play guitar for that matter or even make something at all out of your pitfull existance on this planet but of course you won't because my super sweet sixteen is on which is just about as punk as avril lavigne. And i really hope you got laughed out of your school for playing girlfriend as your music assesment. There is hardly anything to assess in the first place. Why don't you figure out what real punk is and i might sound like a know it all or something but im right. So get a life.
sry to tell you this but avril sort of is punk. plus punk doesnt have much substance behind it, just a repeated pattern of 3 different powerchords[/quote]
plus that comment made no sense. my super sweet sixteen is not even a band.[POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:39 pm / quote |
bertong_putik
: xtreme450 wrote:
I'd still do her, even if she can't write her own music. |
me too!POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 10:53 pm / quote |
lintkingofska
: Skarson wrote:
Aidy Damage wrote:
It IS pretty much exactly like that song. The Ramones covered it.
How could the Ramones cover a song in 1976 if the original came out in 1978? |
very nice, thats what i was thinkingPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:10 pm / quote |
Omnislash502
:
by the way once again isnt it weird that megadeths song mechanix has the same tune as the four horseman by metallica. also why do populer artist get more money when less people actually listen to them. |
metallica ripped off dave mustaine, its megadeths song POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:13 pm / quote |
sheppo
: Omnislash502 wrote:
by the way once again isnt it weird that megadeths song mechanix has the same tune as the four horseman by metallica. also why do populer artist get more money when less people actually listen to them.
metallica ripped off dave mustaine, its megadeths song |
wrong its mustaines solo and he had a hand in the rythem but thats itPOSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:18 pm / quote |
rad82
: well first to megadeath is beast, yes i agree completely that there is hardly any substance within the tune of punk bands like, maybe in like more melodic ones but what i meant there was more lyrically and on the making a point side of things and i meant that that dumb kid would rather just sit there and watch a stupid tv show than make something of hisself. I know its not a band. And avril lavigne is only punk in the sense of distorted guitars a bass and a drums and a singer and under my standards, that doesn't quite cut it. and yes i did waste my time writing that novel, but i'm just killing time before i go to sleep, and for that matter, being on a forum is always a waste of time which is why i seldem go on them. And i also agree with This: Skarson wrote:
Aidy Damage wrote:
It IS pretty much exactly like that song. The Ramones covered it.
How could the Ramones cover a song in 1976 if the original came out in 1978? | That is a good point i checked and that did come out in 1976POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:19 pm / quote |
jthm_guitarist
: HAHAHAHA Take that! All of those new "Music" groups these days steal from the oldies.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:20 pm / quote |
rebelrebelx
: Omnislash502 wrote:
by the way once again isnt it weird that megadeths song mechanix has the same tune as the four horseman by metallica. also why do populer artist get more money when less people actually listen to them.
metallica ripped off dave mustaine, its megadeths song |
it isnt megadeths song, just dave mustaines. he wrote it originally. when he was kicked out of metallica, they changed the lyrics and gave mustaine credit. dave released the song with the original lyrics on megadeth's first album. there are actually like five different versions of the song.POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:24 pm / quote |
recliner33
: ProxXect wrote:
I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it. What, did he invent that word now? :p Either way; DOWN WITH LAVIGNE. |
Chantal Kreviazuk is a chick not a guy
POSTED: 07/07/2007 - 11:54 pm / quote |
Kevguy47
: Shabalaba wrote:
Sixpack5001 wrote:
song sucks anyway, i wouldnt even come out and admit i wrote the song
Strat_Monkey wrote:
Personally, I'd be too ashamed that I'd written a song that was anything like 'Girlfriend' to sue anyone about it. I'd sit there and go "See? See? It wasn't me! Blame her! Blame it all on her!"
+1 +1 lmao |
+1 +1 +1 count me inPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 12:05 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: Ok Avril isn't punk at all, her songs are sort of but it doesn't mean she sucks
To the Avril haters: I'm going to say FUCK OFF!!!
you're just jealous of her!!! so what if Girlfriend and the Rubinoos shit sound coincidentally the same? that doesn't mean she stole their work!!!!
evidence must be prove by hiring musicologist!!!
Avril still rocks and can kick your ass!!!!
Don't tell me you're more talented than her because shes' too successful now, If you don't believe that she write her own songs then her songs will not exist, get me?
I'm still her hardcore fan no matter what? she have more than 400 tabs here in ultimate-guitar so quit whining you idiots!!!
Avril can kick your ass!!! her husband is i nthe punk rock band Sum 41!!! so don't be jealous, all the girls here who loves sum 41!!!POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 12:29 am / quote |
cumdumpster
: She obviously needs insurance for such lawsuits. Since she couln't write a decent song to begin with. How many idiot producers and "song writers" does it take her to come up with the shit top 40 radio calls music? Obviously a lot. I hope they sue the **** out of her, just for crimes against music AND humanity.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 12:50 am / quote |
dimebag5150
: please just let her go the only reason she got a record contract was so that someday she will be in playboy or better yet porn. Give her some time she won't disapoint she is on the fast track ( no talent but big tits )
the same road jessica simpson took. how long before john mayer is banging her? POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:06 am / quote |
Ibeatonthebrat
: The song is overrated, she is overrated, and for GOD'S SAKE!!! She is NOT Punk!!! This whole thing is funny. Some other 70's band is upset because they didn't think of that crappy song first. It's a lame song, and that's saying something compared to her others.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:55 am / quote |
Seenilerun
: It's the exact same chord progression throughout the song and chorus, Avril just puts in stops here and there to make it "different." The melody and lyrics to the chorus are also nearly identical. She stole it, live with it. It doesn't matter if it's only a chunk of a song, the Verve got sued up their *sses for using a five second sample of a Rolling Stones song and the stones sued them for everything they were worth. (Like the stones need more money)
I still haven't forgiven Avril for butchering Imagine.
And Girlfriend is dumb as hell anyways, she's freakin' married. When you get married, I think you lose the right to b*tch about other people's girlfriends.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:58 am / quote |
Seenilerun
: Also seeing her use the telecaster in that video made me ashamed to own one.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 02:02 am / quote |
Lemon Juice!!!
: Ivory_Soul = Retarted.
Jessica Simpson has a great voice. And Christina Agulera probably has one of the best voices ever. Even Axel Rose said that. I know its Axel, but at the same time he still has made it farther than any of us. And Avril can suck my balls. I would have no problem with that, she does suck at life though.
If that band had a song liek that then they shouldnt have EVER been allowed to keep their testicles! POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 02:02 am / quote |
PerfectChaos337
: glad that stupid little **** is finally getting shut up.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 02:49 am / quote |
juggernaut88
: dude, all avril does is bang a couple of major chords at vaying velocities, any other below average pop band's is going to resemble her cause they do the same !POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 03:41 am / quote |
juggernaut88
: as for axl appreciating aguilera, i'm not sure but i think slash hit him with his les paul while leaving GnR, i mean who(read:rock band) does Christina Aguilera covers at a festival called rock at rio? and i'm not totally against pop-90's pop like roxette and madonna was pretty good actually for something pop. it was only when madonna wannababes starting appearing that the whole thing was spoiled. not to mention hip-hop minus eminem. POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 03:48 am / quote |
BlueZephyr
: Um, what kind of insurance does she have? The if-I-steal-a-song-the-insurance-company-will-pay-for-it insurance?POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 04:32 am / quote |
TeddyRamone
: WhereArtEsteban :
Whoever did "do yo chain hang low" should be sued for ripping off the icecream truck song
LOL.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 04:59 am / quote |
TeddyRamone
: sweetbassplayer :
avril is jsut too pathetic tyo try and wite hr song, and the irdge in that og is just ABSOLUTELY terrile! just lik th whole osng! AND avril1
Dude, can you even spell?POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:00 am / quote |
Limaj_daas
: I don't get it... why did they sue avril? did she even write girlfriend?
oh, n' for the avril fans that just can't take ppl bashing on avril: Avril Lavigne is an artist who is TOTALLY commercial. Her whole "i'm a wanna be punk" thing goin on in her early dayz wuz ONLY A MARKETING STRATEGY!
And now, the record label realizes that they can get more money by makin avril look lik a total slut and sing songs that appeal to the millions of dumbasses out there so we end up with Avril releasing a totally commercial album and to add to that she pretend poses topless for a magazine cover.
ppl who say that avril is not a disgrace to music... shame on you.
ppl who say that avril is a disgrace to music... save your breath, they're prolly a million worse artists.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:21 am / quote |
Brattarocks
: hmmm... well zeppelin was ripping off songs before avril.... but no one seems to mind.....POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:40 am / quote |
SimpleandClean
: paramore_fans wrote:
Avril can kick your ass!!! her husband is i nthe punk rock band Sum 41!!! so don't be jealous, all the girls here who loves sum 41!!! |
...I'm assuming you're a girl because you actually like sum 41. =_= I would kill myself before having to marry a monkey like Deryck Whibley. POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 06:11 am / quote |
boxcarblink94
: i'd **** avril so therefore the lawsuit can go to hellPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:06 am / quote |
Guitar4Girl
: Encore_Angel wrote:
Guitar4Girl wrote:
Sometimes lyricists and artists get ideas from from other songs for their work, what i'm trying to say is that in this day its kinda hard to come up with something completely orignal.
I hope i'm not making this too confusing, but i just thought that i'd raise this point...
You're not a songwriter, are you, guitar4girl?
You're the reason people call girls ditzy. Please give up guitar. ^_^. It's fine to get ideas from songs, but not to copy parts. |
actually i do write songs, and no i will not give up the guitar, and you're saying girls are 'ditzy'? well some might be but not me. You don't know me so don't assume that i'm ditzy.
And i wasn't saying that its right to actually copy parts of songs but to get ideas is fine, i didn't actually use the words 'copy'.
POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:24 am / quote |
Guitar4Girl
: ...also i think that avril's latest album sucks, 'under my skin' and 'let go' were better, ' the best damn thing' sounds cheerleader-ish, not my type of music... POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:29 am / quote |
true_bacon22
: macmancometh wrote:
true_bacon22 wrote:
And im insulted that she is canadian.The way i see it all her canadian has worn off shes ****ing american she has been living in los angeles for like 5 years so shes american
Sorry, she's Canadian. Don't try and put this one on USA. |
I know its shame I have to bare with but I dont consider her canadian anymore seeing as she moved right after her first album went bigPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:49 am / quote |
LaLaLaLoopy
: When no one will work with her,than we will see what shes all about.I thought with her getting married and getting laid now,she'd put out a more mature edgy type album but its still bubble gum music stuck on the bottom of our shoe that we just cant get rid of.....oh ya, Id still bang her.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 09:45 am / quote |
metallica99
: I've just heard The Rubinoos song and it's nothing like Avril's, apart from the word "Hey, you, i wanna be your..." in chorus, but the melody and arrangement is totally different. However, i really hate Avril's new image. She used to be alright; a fresh young artist in which u cud hear her Canadian influences. Now she's become a preppy, whiney bitch like Paris! Argh i hate that bubblegum image!POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:09 am / quote |
xAliciax
: Oh please, stop talking about Green Day's selling out.
People say that just so they can look all hardcore like "OMG Green Day is selling out so effing much!!"
Green Day never said that they're punk, never.
And who cares if now what they play is more pop rock, as you said, than the pop punk of time ago? They're still doing good music and that's enough to me. You may
not like them anymore but you might have changed your musical taste, don't look for excuses like selling out.
Just 'cause they're in a major recording label doesn't mean that they sold their souls to the devil.
As somebody else said, if it would be Reprise writing their songs, there wouldn't be songs about masturbation or like Platypus. Billie Joe does write all the songs (except for few songs from Mike or Trè)and like it or not, they're good. And chords and power chords aren't that much, it's possible getting the same ones as another song. Oh, about their clothes and stuff, who gives a damn about what they're wearing? If they like wearing ties and black pants, so it's just their business.
About the majors you mentioned that Fall Out Boy are supposed to have their lyrics written by co-writers and stuff too..yes, sure.
1-they should mention if they got help in writing songs
2-lyrics are written by Pete Wentz, and like for Green Day, it's not like the popish songwriting.
To me they have very deep and complicated lyrics,only people who can't write gets their songs written by someone else.
Last thing: Selling Out is mentioned by many many people just because they heard it from somebody else and tehy don't even know what they're talking about.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:23 am / quote |
callum2903
: ok, who rlei cares, its a bloody song which bares vyer vyer little resemblense,, probably she heard it, liked it, and then a couple mounths later worte a song with the idea, not reasling where she got it from,, i hav done that, i manged omehow to wirte a song rlei like a band i had seen, and didnt realse till someone pointed it out to me, plus avril is hot, and she has now givin the other band alot of free press for peeps who dont like her (alot) to get on tehre side and like tehre music, specaily with there box set about to come out,, so its reli not a huge dealPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:23 am / quote |
xAliciax
: *they, yeah I know I can write.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:24 am / quote |
Dragforce92
: Personally I dont like either. but the rubinoos are going to lose cuz its a pointless cause.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:16 am / quote |
Sixpack5001
: metallica99 wrote:
Argh i hate that bubblegum image! |
yeah, but its been kind of played out since britney spears shaved her hair, so i think avril's days are numberedPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:22 am / quote |
deanodon
: GO AVRIL!!!
Fuck Canada! POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:39 am / quote |
invisible_mann
: They're only sueing because no one likes them, they're poor and need money. Canada owns Canada Junoir (US).POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:46 am / quote |
Brit_89
: Lou_dog 71 wrote:
hey
i agree with screamsoftly
ferdilious also has the same beat as james browns "Night Train"
people have no talent these days |
I have to disagree with you there...I listened to the two songs. I can see what you mean, but that's a common blues rhythm...you can't possibly think she stole that from anyone. I was taught that in music at school, and we were showed how it was used in about 10 different songs. Not that I'm trying to cheer on Fergie, I think she's an idiot to allow someone to spell tasty with an 'e'.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 12:08 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: green day like all popular bands was a sellout from the beginning. if you make it onto popular radio stations you are just in the bussiness for the money.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 12:36 pm / quote |
megadethisbeast
: Omnislash502 wrote:
by the way once again isnt it weird that megadeths song mechanix has the same tune as the four horseman by metallica. also why do populer artist get more money when less people actually listen to them.
metallica ripped off dave mustaine, its megadeths song |
retard the four horseman was on metallicas first album which came out way before mustaine even wrote mechanixPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 12:40 pm / quote |
fadingboy
: they don't generally sound the same but the chorus is definitely a rip off. same melody, clapping, lyrics etc. she should get sued to shit. POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:05 pm / quote |
Nexu
: With regard to the actual article here:
HAsnt this song been out aaaaages? Why make a claim so long after? I smell BSPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:13 pm / quote |
xAliciax
: JakTheGuitarMan:I won't shut up, you're so shallow, you're saying Green Day suck because of the way Billie Joe looks. I can bet you only listened to American idiot.
Megadethisbeast: Green Day had only two really big successes: Dookie and American Idiot. Just 'cause a band made it doesn't mean that they sell out and stuff.
And then green Day wasn't into Reprise from the beginning, but they had two albums in lookout records.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:19 pm / quote |
hobozach
: It's one thing to just plain suck at writing music, but her sorry excuse of "songwriting/composing" PLUS the fact that she stole a song from someone, PLUS she has insurance for it, PLUS she's a poser whether she's good or not just really pisses me off, because
1. If damn near everyone who has an ear for music says and KNOWS she sucks, then y does she even bother? she just takes up space
2.I hate the very thought of plagerism, me being a songwriter, and the fact that there is INSURANCE for that? wtf?!?!
I honestly believe that no one can hate someone as much as I hate her...damn plagerising poser...POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:21 pm / quote |
hobozach
: poser...Cobalt Blue wrote:
and has apparently had a musicologist confirm it.
lol had a musicologist confirm it... i just find that hilarious. |
^ +100000...musicologist? wtf?!?!?!? and I thought it was funny when my sis thought that a dj for a radio station was a radiologist...but musicologist??!? wtf is that bs title?POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 01:56 pm / quote |
Comeback Kiddd
:
rider of pigs wrote:
has anyone else noticed how " The ABC song" sounds exactly like "twinkle twinkle little star"? i smell conspiracy |
The government is trying to cover it upPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 02:00 pm / quote |
pawnluv
: have you guys even heard the other song? Nothing alike, they share like 5 words in the chorus, but the chord progressions are completely different. POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 02:06 pm / quote |
avenged3ullet
: take this into consideration...
avril lavigne takes Rubinoos song "I wanna be your boyfriend"
Rubinoos take rolling stones song "get off of my cloud"
coincidence?POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 03:27 pm / quote |
Qasur
: So the songs sound similar, doesn't mean they are. Same thing with RHCP's problem... the chord progressions are similar, but are not the exact same.
As for people "stealing music"... if you want to cover a song, or even use part of another song in yours, just credit it to the correct artist and you can use it w/out permission.
Why do think so many of Bob Dylan's songs were covered? His style wasn't always liked by everyone, but Zeppelin and Hendrix covered his songs and pushed them into the rock scene. In fact, many people say When the Levee Breaks and All Along The Watchtower were "...badly covered by Bob Dylna..." when it's the complete reverse.
Music is dynamic and complex. After nearly fifty years, guitars have reached a pinnacle and the apex of rock has been breached. There isn't too much more a guitar-player can do without rehashing the same chords again and again... people, it's the lyrics that matter more than anything about music. Sounding good is nice, but not what good musicians strive for...
Look at Rush, amazing group. Lyricial sound and have good supporting music to back up their awesomnesss.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 03:39 pm / quote |
Guitar4Girl
: Qasur wrote:
Music is dynamic and complex. After nearly fifty years, guitars have reached a pinnacle and the apex of rock has been breached. There isn't too much more a guitar-player can do without rehashing the same chords again and again... people, it's the lyrics that matter more than anything about music. Sounding good is nice, but not what good musicians strive for...
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i agree, that was part of the point that i was trying to make as well POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 04:33 pm / quote |
JimPrenier_11
: Lol Die Lavigne! You deserve to get sued just because you suck ha!POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 04:37 pm / quote |
erupshaun
: aha! karma doesn't act kindly toward sellouts.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 04:49 pm / quote |
Aziraphale
: Qasur wrote:
Music is dynamic and complex. After nearly fifty years, guitars have reached a pinnacle and the apex of rock has been breached. There isn't too much more a guitar-player can do without rehashing the same chords again and again... people, it's the lyrics that matter more than anything about music. Sounding good is nice, but not what good musicians strive for...
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I very much disagree. A musician writes music and a lyricist writes lyrics, it just so happens that a lot of people do both. If lyrics matter more than the music then you might aswell just become a poet. For hundreds of years people have made absolutely breathtakingly beautiful compositions with no lyrics whatsoever. To put it in your perspective, just look at YYZ.
Jerry Lee Lewis did absolutely revolutionizing things on a piano when the instrument had been around for hundreds of years. There are tons of innovative guitarists out there today, you just won't find them on MTV.
I'd recommend you listen to the album 'Shadows Collide with People' by John Frusciante. His lyrics make absolutely no sense but he uses them as an instrument in itself, not to spread a message. That album sounds like nothing else, in terms of song writing, guitar playing and production. But it is extremely easy to listen to and can appeal to anyone. It's as innovative and fresh as it is genial.
But if you've already given up on trying to explore and be creative on your instrument and in your songwriting, saying it's all been done before, then you can be sure you will never be innovative.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:17 pm / quote |
Ragdolll888
: hahaha serves the little smeghead right...though I agree that i wouldn't humaliate myself by saying "I worte girlfriend" it serves her right for sucking
POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:22 pm / quote |
Chris.Rock.Art
: Zell182 wrote:
I thought it sounded like that 'hey Micky you so fine' song but meh |
I was at the mall when I first herad it and I thought exactly the same thingPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:28 pm / quote |
kryptonite22
: lets be honest, its such a basic chord progression, a five year old could have written it. it probably sounds similar to a million other obscure songs.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:40 pm / quote |
smileyface
: ontherun wrote:
How can all of you take this Avril Lavigne chick seriously? The last good songwriters that came out of Canada were Robbie Robertson and Neil Young in the 60s, and I haven't heard of another one since...
|
Hey wanna know why that is? You haven't heard of one because music to you is what is on the pop radio station. You are a complete idiot. I cannont begin to describe your level of idiocy. Someone could write 'Avril Lavigne is the greatest songwriter of alltime' (which people do write, as a joke, and people of your level of stupidity respond to it in anger, which is the whole point of writing it) and they still probably wouldn't be as stupid as you. Why don't you appreciate music? If you did, you wouldn't write such a stupid comment. Key word in your statement "I haven't heard of another one since", so.... I'm guessing you've heard of what 5? Jackass. Canada is loaded with amazing (and I don't use that word lightly) songwriters that idiots like you don't bother to seek out because music is a fashion statement to you. To hell with you and everyone like you. Don't you ever make such a silly broad narrow-minded statement. Aww....you don't like Avril Lavigne, so you convict a country's worth of musicians. Some cool person who also had the sense to respond to you referenced Tegan and Sara, who I am also a fan of. (The great Jack White covered their song, "Walking with a ghost'). I'm not going to rack my brain to compile a huge list for you, so I'll just name a few great Canadian songwriters:
Bryan Webb (the Constantines)
Win Butler (Arcade Fire)
Wolf Parade
Royal City
The Deadly Snakes
Sam Roberts
Sloan
Tragically Hip
These are all current artists, I don't even know where to begin in the broad time period you referenced. There's way more where that came from if I looked at my CD collection, but those are the few that come to mind. But hell, I'm probably wasting my time anyways. To you Avril is bad compared to Fall out boy or whoever you think is good. Just cause you can name-dropp one of the best songwriters of all-time in Neil Young doesn't give you an once of credibility you little shit. I also hate whiny people who complain about the state of music today. Could it be that you just don't want to like music? There's great musicians out there. You just got to find them. Why can't more people genuinely love music enough to listen? Buy some Constantines records, you stupid ****
POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 05:58 pm / quote |
smp2_3
: smileyface wrote:
(which people do write, as a joke, and people of your level of stupidity respond to it in anger, which is the whole point of writing it)
Is that the point of you talking?
for stupid people to get pissed off?
well good on ya
and avril sucksPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 06:33 pm / quote |
dale-banez
: hah, "musicologist", that sounds like a REAL occupationPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:03 pm / quote |
Key Master
: better_than_you wrote:
shes married to that dude from sum 41 anyway so why the hell would she want to be someone elses girlfriend....dirty slutbag |
tee heePOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:07 pm / quote |
ShadowPitch
: Lmao. Musicologist. He must earn millions. POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:09 pm / quote |
ShadowPitch
: smileyface wrote:
ontherun wrote:
How can all of you take this Avril Lavigne chick seriously? The last good songwriters that came out of Canada were Robbie Robertson and Neil Young in the 60s, and I haven't heard of another one since...
Hey wanna know why that is? You haven't heard of one because music to you is what is on the pop radio station. You are a complete idiot. I cannont begin to ....
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Why do you care what other people has said? POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:11 pm / quote |
ShadowPitch
: steph_04 wrote:
hmm, maybe you guys should read this before believing everything you hear:
To my dear media, friends, and fans,
You may have heard some news that two guys who wrote for some band from the 1970s I have never in my life heard of called the "Rubinoos" are trying to sue me.....
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Level ten on the Bitch-O-Meter.
Lmao I should stop posting now but it's midnight.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:14 pm / quote |
jplay5
: the two songs arent as alike as what happened last year, with dani california and mary jane's last dance. now those two are REally alikePOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:27 pm / quote |
Sinubis
: crasstastic wrote:
Scourge441 wrote:
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you. |
I'd just like to point out that Green Day and Fall Out Boy do write their own songs, as do most of the bands around nowPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:31 pm / quote |
Sinubis
: rage6945 wrote:
i just downloaded the rubinoos song, the chorus is exactly the same, the only word that was changed was Girlfriend to Boyfriend |
Actually the Rubinoos says "I wanna be your boyfriend", but Avril Lavigne's says "I could be your girlfriend"....more than one word there :PPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 07:39 pm / quote |
Sinubis
: why do people keep saying things like "she's nothing more than media-created crap" etc etc etc, when she's no different to any other music artist in the way that she writes songs (or doesn't, but who really cares if someone else writes for you) and she's extremely successful and clearly a hell of a lot of people like her. Maybe she did rip this song, but why does everyone suddenly come out with all that rubbish about her being a disgrace to Canada/music etc. Get life people,seriously.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 08:04 pm / quote |
reissued
: if it were me i wouldn't wanna take credit for such an annoying and crappy song. POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 08:16 pm / quote |
dain84
: megadethisbeast wrote:
hey you know whats weird is mechanix from megadeth has the same vocal tune as metallicas 4 horseman. |
That's because Mechanix was a Metallica song before Dave Mustaine got kicked out of the band.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 08:23 pm / quote |
Metal_Rich
: Reminds me of the Black Eyed Peas... "I was listening to the Pulp Fiction theme and thought 'We should do a song like that!', so I put it into pro tools, added some beats and wrote some sick rhymes over and it now we have a brand new completely original song!"POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 08:27 pm / quote |
Joshuar
: When i grow up i'm going to become a musicologist and confirm that this topic is completely irrelevant.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 09:19 pm / quote |
live2skatechiq
: mmmmm...who cares anyways!?!?!?
Avril Lavigne sucks anyways.
she's just a poser "rocker"
and in my oppinion, she shouldnt be heard on the radio EVER AGAIN! *shudder*
her voice makes my ears bleed.
for real.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 09:21 pm / quote |
live2skatechiq
: wait i didnt finish!
Sinubis wrote:
why do people keep saying things like "she's nothing more than media-created crap" etc etc etc, when she's no different to any other music artist in the way that she writes songs (or doesn't, but who really cares if someone else writes for you) and she's extremely successful and clearly a hell of a lot of people like her. |
1. do you know why people like her?
i do.
because people are stupid and appreciate sell-outs.
#2.
IT DOES MATTER IF YOU WRITE YOUR OWN SONGS!
thats the hardest part!
DAMN!
i've been playing piano my whole life. and i can play a lot of stuff thats written down.
the real talent comes, when your actually half way creative and think of your own shit.
you people are so fricken stupid.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 09:31 pm / quote |
koorio
: maybe the robinho people wrote the song after avril's who knew them before today anyway. both songs share the same "suckness" thats why they sound similiar. hunderds of songs are similiar to these as well. I think backstreet boys should sue avril.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 09:35 pm / quote |
DanSumthing
: Different people like different kinds of music.
Grow up and realize that, people.
On topic, the songs aren't alike at all except for one line "hey, hey, you, you, I wanna be your girl/boy-friend."
The "hey you" part sounds just like the same part in the Rolling Stones song Get Off of My Cloud. I think the stones would have a better case against the Rubinoos than they have against Avril.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 09:55 pm / quote |
jakejohnson64
: the song is exactly the same rhythm and instead of staying i wanna be your boyfriend its replaced with girlfriend...you woiuld she'd change it a little more...people are stupidPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:35 pm / quote |
fenderstratboy2
: haha. this is actually some good news. this was what snobby rich girls get for thinking they are coolPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:43 pm / quote |
Stampede
: sounds like she stole it. the melody is remarkably similar. i'd still do her thoPOSTED: 07/08/2007 - 10:58 pm / quote |
xHAMSANDWICHx
: i hate her music, i hate her unoriginality, but id still hit that.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:07 pm / quote |
xHAMSANDWICHx
: oh yeah and crasstastic, fall out boy and green day DO write their own music.
it just sucks. :smile:POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:11 pm / quote |
granola321
: fall out boy writes their own stuff and if they don't they'd put the name of the person who helped them write it or the person who wrote it.. and going mainstream doesn't mean the artist doesnt write their own musiccrasstastic wrote:
Scourge441 wrote:
Last week Canadian songwriter Chantal Kreviazuk told 'Performing Songwriter' magazine that she will never again work withLavigne saying she will "cross the ethical line and no one says anything. That's why I'll never work with her again. I sent her a song two years ago called 'Contagious,' and I just saw the track listing to this album, and there's a song called 'Contagious' on it-and my name's not on it.'
Does Avril write anything on her own?
nope, thats what happens when you go mainstream, like fall out boy, and green day, and all those other pop bands, when you sign big you dont write your own material anymore, its all written for you. | POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:43 pm / quote |
deNJi_RoCks
: this just made my day awesome. thank you for so much for your sucking and being un-original, avril lavigne.
yes!
but greenday ISNT sell out and they write their own music.
yes, avril sucks now.
yes, yes, yes.POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:49 pm / quote |
granola321
: yeah pete wentz and patrick stup does.. well patrick at times...saosin22533 wrote:
crasstastic fall out boy and green day write their own stuff...pete wentz writes fall out boy's lyrics | POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:54 pm / quote |
granola321
: i meant stump...granola321 wrote:
yeah pete wentz and patrick stup does.. well patrick at times...saosin22533 wrote:
crasstastic fall out boy and green day write their own stuff...pete wentz writes fall out boy's lyrics | POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:54 pm / quote |
smileyface
: Sid Vicouis :
i really dislike her selling out with her song "girlfriend". i dont care whose song it sounds like, or who she copied. i have never recognised her as something great. if she wants to win back everyone, and pick up new fans along the way she should make the hardest punk rock song ever that feels as if salt and lemon juice are being poured into scabs allover your body make from a great fall down the rocky mountains, creating a roar so thunderous that, the chasing of dogs and cats, unleashed from an empire of Romans, scream the last scream of pure darkness that depresses even the most beautiful of fairies, (the scream) released from the depths of hell with fires and lava that burn and seep into the underground, and angels of the abyss appear to suck the life and breath from your lips man, or woman, as it does not care, for you fenile human-hey!...i dont think i like your girlfriend. or to simply put in words, she should cover the pixies' the sad punk to express her emotions, please view at the following tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-nupsJvJg . as she starts to use her larynx you will be able to hear a sound similar to 1000 screeching locusts, and you will rush to hide away your delicate ears.anyways..im getting too old for this.
tootles! |
Ha ha. I second that. Especially the pixies part. EXTINCTION!!!!!POSTED: 07/08/2007 - 11:55 pm / quote |
m
: CheckinPOSTED: 07/09/2007 - 12:10 am / quote |
Aceman_196
: she seems like she would stealPOSTED: 07/09/2007 - 12:54 am / quote |
n0name
: oh man rofl i love reading these comments some of em put me in hystericsPOSTED: 07/09/2007 - 01:13 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: The Rubinoos suck!!!!
Noone notices this shitty 70's band!!!
They should shut the **** up!!!
Avril can kick their asses!!!
they should quit complaining!!!!
Avril still rocks!!! agree with me, if she's not a true songwriter therefore, her songs in her album will not exist!!!
remember her 2004 Under My Skin album? she wrote that if you look at the booklet!!!
To Avril haters and Rubinoos: Go **** yourselves!!!!POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 01:15 am / quote |
RandyMoon
: paramore_fans wrote:
To Avril haters and Rubinoos: Go **** yourselves!!!! |
Will do. POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 01:17 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: don't worry avril we know that you wrote girlfriend when you were drunk and that you are original, the evidence is I watched your bonus DVD of the TBDT album, I mean the making, you were writing with Dr. Luke!!!
those stupid 70s band can **** each others, they just want publicity, money and fame!!!
but avril you rock!!! your fans love you and remember you are going to win this!!! don't worry!
keep your head up!
They are upset because they have not reached the amount of success that YOU have.
You are amazing, talented, and beautiful.
You have millions of fans, dollars ;], and a hubby who loves you dearly!
You have no reason to frown.
Those people suck. ha ha.
You rock.
Simple as that.
Don't worry about it, i support you along with many other people!!!
GOOD LUCK!!
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Imperium
: I'd still love to throw one into her!POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 02:04 am / quote |
Flamingmonkey
: | remember her 2004 Under My Skin album? she wrote that if you look at the booklet!!! |
who cares if she 'wrote' a whole f***** album, what about all those other great bands who wrote 6 or 7 albums like Metallica or somethin'POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 02:32 am / quote |
Nexu
: Aziraphale wrote:
I'd recommend you listen to the album 'Shadows Collide with People' by John Frusciante. His lyrics make absolutely no sense but he uses them as an instrument in itself, not to spread a message. That album sounds like nothing else, in terms of song writing, guitar playing and production. But it is extremely easy to listen to and can appeal to anyone. It's as innovative and fresh as it is genial.
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Oh god that so true...
However all the little metal heads need to shut their cake holes because as much as Avrils new album is a bit too pop and girly for me the songs sound nothing alike just the words follow a similar suit. Her first two albums were pretty decent.
As for insurance? stop whinging you twats how would you like it if someone sued you for plagarism when you didnt do it and then you lost everything?
Case closed, next shitty article please?POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 04:33 am / quote |
Wazoo
: Contagious is like What's My Age Again? by blink-182.POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 05:02 am / quote |
snuh juh
: Why are they seweing her for a song they wrote more than 30 years ago? I say GET OVER IT!!!!!POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 05:21 am / quote |
Wazoo
: Does that mean she can't perform for a while caus I got tickets for the Summer Sonic.POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 05:21 am / quote |
Kivarenn82
: i don't get it..
did she run out of her shitty ideas for songs that she had to steal even shittier ideas for songs?
what a tool.. POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 05:29 am / quote |
paramore_fans
: grrr!!!
shut the **** up before Avril kick your asses!!!
you doucebags!!!POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 05:57 am / quote |
Sinubis
: live2skatechiq wrote:
1. do you know why people like her?
i do.
because people are stupid and appreciate sell-outs.
#2.
IT DOES MATTER IF YOU WRITE YOUR OWN SONGS!
thats the hardest part!
DAMN!
i've been playing piano my whole life. and i can play a lot of stuff thats written down.
the real talent comes, when your actually half way creative and think of your own shit.
you people are so fricken stupid. |
Ok, I can appreciate the part about writing your wn stuff, I apologise for being wrong. But why is Avril Lavigne a sell-out??POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 06:18 am / quote |
Kivarenn82
: because shes a marketed puppet with no purpose but to sell music to brainwashed teenyboppers that watch too much MTV/MuchMusic.
i'm not bashing her because i'm some dungeon dwelling metal snob. i can appreciate a lot of diverse musics. But avril lavigne, who is in her mid 20's and married, writes(stole) a tune about pointless teenage boyfriend/girlfriend jealousy drivel?? this is the kinda crap only 12 year olds think about..
Marketed soulless junk for brainwashed teenyboppers.
POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 06:48 am / quote |
Twiggy81R
: I'm a NIN fan, huge fan; the beginning of "Capital G' sounds like "Billie Jean"POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 08:02 am / quote |
Ratm-biggestfan
: like 6pack said,the song sucks so who would even want to admit they wrote it LOLPOSTED: 07/09/2007 - 09:38 am / quote |
Josher.K
: They only sue cause they know she has a lot of money, between prostitution and no talent.. I'd sue her too.POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 10:42 am / quote |
Josher.K
: Wazoo wrote:
Does that mean she can't perform for a while caus I got tickets for the Summer Sonic. |
Ew, loser.POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 10:43 am / quote |
Limaj_daas
: paramore_fans wrote:
don't worry avril we know that you wrote girlfriend when you were drunk and that you are original, the evidence is I watched your bonus DVD of the TBDT album, I mean the making, you were writing with Dr. Luke!!!
those stupid 70s band can **** each others, they just want publicity, money and fame!!!
but avril you rock!!! your fans love you and remember you are going to win this!!! don't worry!
keep your head up!
They are upset because they have not reached the amount of success that YOU have.
You are amazing, talented, and beautiful.
You have millions of fans, dollars ;], and a hubby who loves you dearly!
You have no reason to frown.
Those people suck. ha ha.
You rock.
Simple as that.
Don't worry about it, i support you along with many other people!!!
GOOD LUCK!!
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dude, seriously... grow up! do u think ppl here are actually pissed off at lavigne cuz of her "fame" n' "success"??? We're all pissed off (at least i am) cuz she's totally f*cked music up!!! Oh, btw, in case you didn't kno... A lot of messed up ppl have "millions of fans, dollars".POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 11:05 am / quote |
Rychous
: ok so the only part that even sounds remotely familliar is "hey I want to be" and that's about it, the beat is different too, it's more of a boom/chick/boom/boom/chick and the other guys play more of a str8 4. besides that, why didn't these jerks try and sue Tiffany for singing "I think We're alone now" back in the 80s? If Vanilla Ice got away with completely stealing a song and adding a single note to the mix then there is now way they have a chance at winning this case. I think they're a washed up old has been (or never was) band that is broke and desperate. and the rubinoos is a stupid name so here's to them ,,|,,(-. POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 11:21 am / quote |
zakkwyldeisgayy
: On With The Show = Jesus Of Surburbia
Facts are facts..
POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 02:34 pm / quote |
DarkDallasNight
: -February-Star- wrote:
They were talking about this on Radio 1 yesterday, they played both clips and they are EXACTLY the same.
I'd still bone her though. |
Set-Abominae wrote:
SkyValley wrote:
Well what do you expect from some untalented Canadian high-school dropout? Not to mention a rather ugly one.
I'll have to disagree with that one. If she's anything, it's severely bone-able. |
So true. +100
POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 04:59 pm / quote |
Dragforce92
: Dragforce92 wrote:
Personally I dont like either. but the rubinoos are going to lose cuz its a pointless cause. | POSTED: 07/09/2007 - 05:16 pm / quote |
stereojeff
: does anyone on here have any sense? altho im not a Avril fan so crap if she nicked a song from 70's (that I personally find sounds nothing like Avril's song). i bet you could find loads of artists out there who have stolen ideas off each other and nothing is said. plus loads of bands spew out the same song over and over again and plagarise themselve, Blink 182 for example. If everyone is so bothered, just ignore it cos the more you go on about it the more it looks like your jealousPOSTED: 07/10/2007 - 03:51 pm / quote |
rock4christ
: will everyone shut up about it already its a gay song that avril lavigne sings maybe she wrote it maybe she didn't it doesn't matter the song sucks either way!!!
ps avril is still hot!!! POSTED: 07/10/2007 - 07:15 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: Her best friend evan said something about thsi shitty article!!! he also defends av!!!
Thursday, July 12, 2007
Avril/Writing
Originally I wasn't going to post anything regarding this since I think it's absolutely ****ing ridiculous(that and I'm kinda nobody so it doesn't really matter), but for whatever reason the issue seems to be only escalating and I want to just clear some shit up. Avril is one of my dearest friends in the entire world and I find it pretty unbelievable how contorted the stories I'm hearing are. Chantal ate her words already, so I'll let that issue pass. The Roobinoos(who?) are ****ing *******s. Check out their shitty ass myspace and I think it's pretty obvious that they're dying for attention and publicity. This is a pathetic attempt to hurt someone for their own benefit. I'm not a musicologist or whatever those fancy dudes are called, but I know this: I've written a shitload of songs with Avril, (7 of which we've been lucky enough to have recorded together and release on her records) and I can honestly say that she was a huge part of creative force behind all of them. Any accusations that she isn't a songwriter are ludicrous. The one thing in common with every hit she's ever had is that she wrote on them, not someone else. The matrix, chantal, and even myself, we come and go but she'll always be writing good tunes for her records. Anytime her and I have ever written anything that resembles something else she'll make note of it and we'll abandon it, so anyone who says that she knowingly rips people off are just hating on her. It's very easy to pull and pick someone apart once they're huge, but the truth is you don't sell 25 million records unless at the core, there is a large amount of talent and innovation to drive the thing. (there is always an exception to the rule eg; Creed)
so basically, if you're a hater **** off, I think the fans of her music know the truth, and to be honest, it doesn't matter, in 6 months the roobinos will be back to serving up fries for us and Avril will be on a huge tour enjoying her long earned successes.
why the **** do you have to pay for internet at starbucks? wtf? my latte was already 9 bucks
EvanPOSTED: 07/12/2007 - 11:01 pm / quote |
kateken
: she's a stupid poser that can't even write her own music or think of anything orginial grrr.POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 02:01 pm / quote |
kateken
: paramore_fans wrote:
don't worry avril we know that you wrote girlfriend when you were drunk and that you are original, the evidence is I watched your bonus DVD of the TBDT album, I mean the making, you were writing with Dr. Luke!!!
those stupid 70s band can **** each others, they just want publicity, money and fame!!!
but avril you rock!!! your fans love you and remember you are going to win this!!! don't worry!
keep your head up!
They are upset because they have not reached the amount of success that YOU have.
You are amazing, talented, and beautiful.
You have millions of fans, dollars ;], and a hubby who loves you dearly!
You have no reason to frown.
Those people suck. ha ha.
You rock.
Simple as that.
Don't worry about it, i support you along with many other people!!!
GOOD LUCK!! |
whoever this is. Um wow! you're the only one who likes her. How can you not think she's a rip off?POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 02:04 pm / quote |
GiR 2.0
: Sid Vicouis wrote:
i really dislike her selling out with her song "girlfriend". i dont care whose song it sounds like, or who she copied. i have never recognised her as something great. if she wants to win back everyone, and pick up new fans along the way she should make the hardest punk rock song ever that feels as if salt and lemon juice are being poured into scabs allover your body make from a great fall down the rocky mountains, creating a roar so thunderous that, the chasing of dogs and cats, unleashed from an empire of Romans, scream the last scream of pure darkness that depresses even the most beautiful of fairies, (the scream) released from the depths of hell with fires and lava that burn and seep into the underground, and angels of the abyss appear to suck the life and breath from your lips man, or woman, as it does not care, for you fenile human-hey!...i dont think i like your girlfriend. or to simply put in words, she should cover the pixies' the sad punk to express her emotions, please view at the following tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-nupsJvJg . as she starts to use her larynx you will be able to hear a sound similar to 1000 screeching locusts, and you will rush to hide away your delicate ears.anyways..im getting too old for this.
tootles! |
WTF WAS THAT?! THAT WAS THE MOST NONSENSICAL DELIGATED CRAP I'VE EVER READ. ROMAN EMPIRE?! YOU'RE SOUNDING EXACTLY LIKE AVRIL. YOU TALK ABOUT NOTHING!!!!
Hey, wasn't there a user with the name XXPunkKidXX or something? I remember mindlessly bashing her and stuff.POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 08:00 pm / quote |
GiR 2.0
: And WTF was with the whole DEPTHS OF HELL, 1000 SCREECHING LOCUSTS CRAP?! THAT WAS CRAP!!!!! AND IT MEANT NOTHING!!!!! THAT'S JUST EFFING STUPID!! WHO CARES ABOUT HER LARYNX!! NONE OF THAT CRAP MADE SENSE!!! AND SHE WAS NEVER PUNK ROCK!!! SHE WAS A POSER GIRLY GIRL!!! I would call her even MORE insulting names, but then again, using words like that would land me in jail with a restraining order not to come within 600 miles of her. Who cares?! I COULD BURN EFF YOU IN HER LAWN AND NO ONE WOULD KNOW!!
I'm sorry, guys. About all of it. You know. I went too far with cursing and screaming. But, with stupid comments like THAT! you can't expect someone NOT to get pissed.POSTED: 07/14/2007 - 08:03 pm / quote |
Zebo Rogun
: KREIAK RETRACTS LAVIGNE SONGWRITING COMMENTS Source: BILLBOARD.COM
Chantal Kreviazuk, the fellow Canadian singer/songwriter who dismissed collaborator Avril Lavigne's writing skills in an interview in the June issue of Performing Songwriter magazine, has retracted her comments.
Kreviazuk's comments have been in the media of late in the wake of a copyright infringement suit filed against Lavigne by the 1970s band the Rubinoos. That group claims Lavigne's hit "Girlfriend" infringes on their earlier song "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend."
"I would like to apologize for any misconceptions concerning Avril Lavigne, which may have resulted from statements I made in my interview with Performing Songwriter Magazine," said Kreviazuk in a statement released today (July 10) "It was not my intention to call Avril's songwriting ability or ethics into question.
"My statements and any inference from my statements, which call into question Avril's ethics or ability as a respected and acclaimed songwriter, should be disregarded and are retracted. Avril is an accomplished songwriter and it has been my privilege to work with her."
In a July 6 post on her Web site, Lavigne had hit back, "Chantal's comments are damaging to my reputation and a clear defamation of my character and I am considering taking legal action." — Larry LeBlanc, Toronto (Billboard.com)
It’s official – see weblink:
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_displa y.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003609349
Chantal Kreviazuk’s - Quote about the Song: “Contagious”
"When I saw the track listing to Avril's new record, it caught my attention that she had the same title as a song I had sent her a while back,"
"When I heard it, I immediately realized it was a coincidence. The songs have nothing in common. ... My statements and any inference from my statements, which call into question Avril's ethics or ability as a respected and acclaimed songwriter, should be disregarded and are retracted."
-Kreviazuk
POSTED: 07/16/2007 - 09:18 pm / quote |
Zebo Rogun
: People say that Avril stole Peaches song, but I don’t I don’t think so.
The beat patterns sound different to me.
The beat In Avril’s song although it sounds similar goes
1-2-3-4
1-2-3-4-5
The beat on Peaches goes
1-2-3
1-2-3
and then progresses to
1-2-3-4
1-2-3
Not the same . . .
The remaining 97% of the song is different; did you listen to the rest of the song?
Avril plays the drums a “little bit” and she knows the beat it is different, she said that the “Peaches” song “I’m the Kinda” is one of her favorite songs, Avril loves the Peach, she is not stealing she is simply paying tribute to one of her favorite songs. What is wrong with that?
POSTED: 07/16/2007 - 09:25 pm / quote |
paramore_fans
: ^ thanks 4 defending here
To the avril haters, again I wanna say FUCK OFF!!!!
before Avril can kick your ass!!!
To prove to you that she writes her songs watch these videos!!! THE MAKING OF THE BEST DAMN THING, you will see that she's handling a paper and a pen so that means she writes!!! the videos are below
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPpHgKSvCQo
if you watch the part 1, she did an ollie tric kat sk8board!!!
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnDIvlx6ivA
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aToCFLqS6GQ
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhQ72F_8JGU
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxOkxE5qNR8
"Every ****ing girl is trying to sound like her, and they don't"....evan you're right
To the haters wo say she can't play guitar or any other instrument, Fuck off!!! here are the vids that she is capable of playing them!!!
My Happy ending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gl-7ZxwcuI
as well as other songs if you search them!!!
Drums: Covering SONG 2 by BLUR!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyGn-Pdorwk
P iano:
Together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4AQWEXPrScPOSTED: 07/18/2007 - 06:49 am / quote |
Wazoo
: SKREW U JOSHER.K! IM GONNA SEE THE OFFSPRING!POSTED: 07/19/2007 - 05:13 am / quote |
Wazoo
: Screw u Josher.kPOSTED: 07/19/2007 - 05:25 am / quote |
Wazoo
: That ***** is too stupid actually write something on her own!!!!POSTED: 11/07/2007 - 01:53 am / quote |
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