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Blogger Arrested Over GN'R Leaks |
| artist: guns n roses |
date: 08/28/2008 |
category: general music news |
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Federal authorities say they have arrested a blogger suspected of streaming songs from Guns N' Roses unreleased album, "Chinese Democracy," on his Web site.
FBI agents arrested 27-year-old Kevin Cogill yesterday (August 27th) on suspicion of violating federal copyright laws. Federal authorities say Cogill posted nine unreleased Guns N' Roses songs on Antiquiet.com in June. The songs were later removed but spread quickly across the Internet.
According to an arrest affidavit, Cogill admitted to agents that he posted the songs on his Web site.
"Chinese Democracy" has been in the works for more than a decade, with frontman Axl Rose the only remaining original member of the once mighty group. Rumblings that the album may finally be out this fall, possibly as a Best Buy exclusive, have not been confirmed by Guns N' Roses or its management.
Thanks for the info to Billboard.com.
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AdamDK
: Lol, guess Axl will be sueing him for millions for breach of copyright then. POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:20 am / quote |
Mootallica
: AdamDK wrote:
Lol, guess Axl will be sueing him for millions for breach of copyright then. |
I wonder if he'll get the free Dr Pepper.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:25 am / quote |
sucay
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axl needs to get a life.
POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:37 am / quote |
AdamDK
: Mootallica wrote:
AdamDK wrote:
Lol, guess Axl will be sueing him for millions for breach of copyright then.
I wonder if he'll get the free Dr Pepper. |
Lol, I think it voids his chances.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:58 am / quote |
Carlson-online
: this is not axl, nor GnR's doing.
the guy PUBLICALLY admitted to the crime, was on sky news FFS.
its the record companies and the FBI that went after him.
So don't blame AXL, the guy gets enough unfair stick as it is.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:09 am / quote |
fukensteller
: wait a second, are we saying that songs from this so called "album" exist? It's all an elaborate hoax to make us believe an album is coming. Everyday I grow more thirsty for my Dr.Pepper.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:16 am / quote |
Godbe
: fukensteller wrote:
wait a second, are we saying that songs from this so called "album" exist? It's all an elaborate hoax to make us believe an album is coming. Everyday I grow more thirsty for my Dr.Pepper. |
It seems to me like people are more bothered about the Dr. Pepper than the actual album lately. But then again that's fair enough as the album has been in the works for a ridiculous amount of time now...POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:27 am / quote |
aaciseric
: Pointless arrest really, the songs are out and more than one person has been putting them up for download.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:43 am / quote |
boxcharles
: Well I'll give this guy my Dr Pepper, cause he's just badass. POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:25 am / quote |
getaddicted
: axl must have run out of money hahaPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:47 am / quote |
tilinmyowngrave
: getaddicted wrote:
axl must have run out of money haha |
or not. as was pointed out previously, its not axl's doing... this is FBI and music federation guys... POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:53 am / quote |
IlikeMetal
: It's funny how they only arrested this guy, but the one that obviously leaked them to him walks free. Seems like a lot of the people that leak music to the web never even have action taken against them, it's always the bloggers. I guess the larger amount of bloggers might equate to more money if sued than the smaller amount of peolple who leak. Just my theory. POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:07 am / quote |
Billy Picken
: True, but it's easier to catch the blogger that offered it for download, than whomever leaked it. So they catch him and he takes the whole rap.
At this point who really cares about Axl, GnR or CD?POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:23 am / quote |
Eddie616
: Funny how these things get leaked and how none of us... espcially on here... mysteriously never hear them. I think it's all an act or something to make us believe its coming out soon.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:26 am / quote |
IfTheWorld
: He didn't offer them for download, he streamed them and people recorded them from there. Also it's the RIAA going after himPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:27 am / quote |
Wakisazhi
: Actually thats a rather bitch move. They ask him to remove the songs which he complies with and then they decide to go after him and have him arrested by the feds? Not cool on the record company's part.
I mean yes he probably technically stole the songs but still I'm sure there probably was some sort of understanding/deal made when they asked him to remove the songs. If not he might as well have kept the songs on his blog. Something has got to be up here that we don't know about.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:37 am / quote |
Wakisazhi
: Sorry I meant RIAA. Not much of a difference though, most execs and employees in the record business that aren't musicians are generally spineless slime balls anyways.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:38 am / quote |
tanner07
: Carlson-online wrote:
this is not axl, nor GnR's doing.
the guy PUBLICALLY admitted to the crime, was on sky news FFS.
its the record companies and the FBI that went after him.
So don't blame AXL, the guy gets enough unfair stick as it is. |
any stick he gets is more than deserved he is a pompous assPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:42 am / quote |
CTFOD
: [quote=UG]
"Chinese Democracy" has been in the works for more than a decade, with frontman Axl Rose the only remaining original member of the once mighty group.[/quote]
I lol'd.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:14 am / quote |
DesertEagle
: Dude id be pretty ****in pissed off if an album that i poured money into for what like 14-15 years was suddenly on the net for free. Axl was awesome back in the day but y he decided to put it all down the drain is a mystery to me.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:14 am / quote |
Axl_Tyler
: I love how everyone hates Axl even though all they know about him comes from the media... I wouldn't take the media's word for anything if I wanted to know the truth about something. Axl Rose is pretty much my hero! Leave him alone!POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:16 am / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD
: AdamDK wrote:
Lol, guess Axl will be sueing him for millions for breach of copyright then. |
Probably, because he needs to earn back the over 10 million he pissed away in the studio over the years and he knows this album wont make that back anytime soon.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:41 am / quote |
David_Bowie=GOD
: Billy Picken wrote:
True, but it's easier to catch the blogger that offered it for download, than whomever leaked it. So they catch him and he takes the whole rap.
At this point who really cares about Axl, GnR or CD? |
Not me, If the real GnR reunited I might care, but this album isn't worth the wait from the leaks ive downloaded, anything that is on the album that I didn't already download I will download when the album gets released. Its a pretty good album, but it wasnt worth the 10+ year wait. Its not gonna change the music scene I dont think either.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:47 am / quote |
jcthomasva
: Arresting a blogger who posted songs on the internet? Chinese Democracy indeed!POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:59 am / quote |
heebblow101
: Axl is insane PERIOD.
Grow some balls and make a G&R Reunion already you egotistical maniac!POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:09 pm / quote |
Covet
: Axl_Tyler wrote:
I love how everyone hates Axl even though all they know about him comes from the media... I wouldn't take the media's word for anything if I wanted to know the truth about something. Axl Rose is pretty much my hero! Leave him alone! |
"LEAVE AXL ALONE!!!"
I'm actually curious about this album now...POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:12 pm / quote |
bassmanjoe08
: Billy Picken wrote:
True, but it's easier to catch the blogger that offered it for download, than whomever leaked it. So they catch him and he takes the whole rap.
At this point who really cares about Axl, GnR or CD? |
Quite a few people, jackass.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:19 pm / quote |
pickslide94
: lol, ive heard the thing hundreds of times just like everybody else.
really, who hasnt downloaded the demos. and its not so great anyway.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:20 pm / quote |
skull78
: jcthomasva wrote:
Arresting a blogger who posted songs on the internet? Chinese Democracy indeed! |
lol
sooooo true!
XDPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:22 pm / quote |
Jondy
: Axl's just mad that some random guy did what Axl was apparently incapable of doing himself.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:30 pm / quote |
mamason282
: jcthomasva wrote:
Arresting a blogger who posted songs on the internet? Chinese Democracy indeed! |
++1 lolPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 12:52 pm / quote |
phishfan08
: Slash and Duff need to ask for the guy to be pardoned because we all know Axl is too much of a d&ck to do it.
WTF is AXL's real name anyway??? what a queer.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 01:13 pm / quote |
ling_yu
: phishfan08 wrote:
Slash and Duff need to ask for the guy to be pardoned because we all know Axl is too much of a d&ck to do it.
WTF is AXL's real name anyway??? what a queer. | not gonna happen, and his name is William Rose I think. Can't wait for the Dr. Pepper.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 01:21 pm / quote |
Victor Escobar
: I heard Axl delivered the finished version of Chinese Democracy to Geffen around the time the Olympics started. I also heard he wants to make the making of the album into a reality show.Heres the link if you want to read it yourself,http://kroq-data.com/wah/wah/newsmanager/templates/ default.aspx?a=24&z=5 POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 01:29 pm / quote |
nscar
: Some of the songs are on youtube...POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 01:33 pm / quote |
Dirtydeeds468
: Carlson-online wrote:
So don't blame AXL, the guy gets enough unfair stick as it is. |
lolPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 01:58 pm / quote |
m
: checked.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:03 pm / quote |
glamhairmetal
: whats up with the doctor pepper i dont understand
waste of money and resources for this arrest...
POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:14 pm / quote |
placebic
: So, what're you in for?
-beat a man to death...
Ahh. What about you?
-smashed up my old lady's car. What about you, why you here?
I leaked the tracks to the new Guns and Roses' "Chinese Democracy" online
And for the cd taking so long, from what I've heard, it's got only maybe one song on there I'd like. Nothing special - no Slash and the gang should already tell you something.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:31 pm / quote |
nikhil101
: AdamDK wrote:
Lol, guess Axl will be sueing him for millions for breach of copyright then. |
Well I guess Axl will have to sue the hell out of him in an attempt to get all the money he's wasted for this album back.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:38 pm / quote |
nikhil101
: David_Bowie=GOD wrote:
AdamDK wrote:
Lol, guess Axl will be sueing him for millions for breach of copyright then.
Probably, because he needs to earn back the over 10 million he pissed away in the studio over the years and he knows this album wont make that back anytime soon. |
damn beaten to itPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:40 pm / quote |
i_am_metalhead
: This article is funny. How can they arrest you for leaking an album that doesn't exist!? What's next!? "Man arrested for assaulting Santa Clause!"??POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:43 pm / quote |
bbbbrooks1
: Carlson-online wrote:
this is not axl, nor GnR's doing.
the guy PUBLICALLY admitted to the crime, was on sky news FFS.
its the record companies and the FBI that went after him.
So don't blame AXL, the guy gets enough unfair stick as it is. |
I love gnr but axl doesn't get much unfair stick....he brings most of it on himself....he's an a s s holePOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 02:51 pm / quote |
evilgerbil666
: Chinese Democracy - Most successful viral marketing plan ever
Tonight at 8POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 03:20 pm / quote |
GREENWARRI0R
: Axl just staged this to make it seem there is actually a Chinese Democracy CD.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 04:07 pm / quote |
Flying Afros
: Axl will come out at the end of the year and finally fess up to there not even being a chinese democracy. Screw the album, it will suck. Im waiting for my Dr. Pepper.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 04:47 pm / quote |
iluvpickles
: Eddie616 wrote:
Funny how these things get leaked and how none of us... espcially on here... mysteriously never hear them. I think it's all an act or something to make us believe its coming out soon. |
i have chinese democracy on my ipod and the tab is up on UG..... just search limewire, the songs WERE leaked.....
That said, the song does suck a dick compared to all other GnR songs, lets face it guys, gnr are the reason i started to play guitar, but Axl by himself is NOT GnR. and theres no way Slash will ever go bac, nor Matt, seeing as how Steven Adler got the credit for UYI I & II when he quit the band. Izzy might, seeing as he quit because they were all into hard drugs and Axl's seemed to have sobered up. Duff would, but seeing as hes Slash's pussy lapdog (although, my FAVORITE bassist), hes not going anywhere.
like the article said, "once mighty". GnR is washed up. a Has-been. Not even Buckethead could get the new album out reasonably on time. do you actually think it will be good, UNLESS GnR reunite? (HINT: not happening!)POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 05:43 pm / quote |
vanman118
: HOLY SHIT!
I was listening to 107.3 a week ago, and they said that some dude sent them a new GN'R song and they played it.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 05:44 pm / quote |
Uranutan
: DesertEagle wrote:
Dude id be pretty ****in pissed off if an album that i poured money into for what like 14-15 years was suddenly on the net for free. Axl was awesome back in the day but y he decided to put it all down the drain is a mystery to me. |
It's going to be on the net for free anyway. Piracy can't be stopped. But people being able to download it and listen to it early just builds up more hype and desire for the album (and the band).POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 05:46 pm / quote |
Birchall17
: | WTF is AXL's real name anyway??? what a queer. |
Its William Axl RosePOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 05:57 pm / quote |
dfresh91
: another late update by UGPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 06:13 pm / quote |
darkmetallica
: phishfan08 wrote:
Slash and Duff need to ask for the guy to be pardoned because we all know Axl is too much of a d&ck to do it.
WTF is AXL's real name anyway??? what a queer. |
William Bruce Rose, Jr.
i've heard the album... it's not guns n roses classic but it's not bad for a rock bandPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 06:41 pm / quote |
johnwh92
: bassmanjoe08 wrote:
Billy Picken wrote:
True, but it's easier to catch the blogger that offered it for download, than whomever leaked it. So they catch him and he takes the whole rap.
At this point who really cares about Axl, GnR or CD?
Quite a few people, jackass. |
well, i sure as hell dont.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:20 pm / quote |
geek_rocker
: WTf? haven't u heard of the album
i heard it on antiquiet
IT REALLY SUCKED
axl rose
is downPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:39 pm / quote |
bbbbrooks1
: clawsofsteel wrote:
what's with the dr.pepper? |
Dr. Pepper said theywill give everybody in america a free Dr. Pepper if the album comes out in 2008...which means axl's gunna release it on Jan. 1st 2009POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:40 pm / quote |
AxlRose94
: Everyone stop picking out axl just because he has some problems doesnt me he should always be poited out as the bad guy in the situation because Axl's been through alot and after Read Slash's Auto Biography im suprised axl hasn't fell apart after all this shit he had to live through as a kid and an Adult. So everyone picking out Axl is just stupid.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 07:54 pm / quote |
jakehendrixman
: I bet this guy doesn't even have a blog. Axl set one up to leak his own song to grab people's attention. Then when word got out, Axl and the Fed's nailed some guy on the street as a scape goat. lmao I know the truth.
What ev' the case I goin' to buy the album anyway.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:17 pm / quote |
F8iscruel
: this is odd, they go after a guy who leaks an album that probally will never come out, yet they dont go after a guy who post a video of a trivium song on youtube. guess theres some constitutes to the law that im not aware of...POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:31 pm / quote |
ilikebass
: I hate Guns n' Roses so much.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 08:46 pm / quote |
ozzynator
: ilikebass wrote:
I hate Guns n' Roses so much. |
+1POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:15 pm / quote |
[travis]
: That's probably the only time it will be out. This CD will never come out. It'll probably still be "unreleased" until Axl gets rid of his braids and hair dye. POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:36 pm / quote |
Xanron
: ilikebass wrote:
I hate Guns n' Roses so much. |
-1POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:37 pm / quote |
Roedy0309
: sucay wrote:
axl needs to get a life. |
no he just needs to released the album because ive heard the leaks and they are excellent. gnr's best since appetitePOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:46 pm / quote |
Roedy0309
: ilikebass wrote:
I hate Guns n' Roses so much. |
why if its because of axl then say you hate axl, dont drag the rest of the original band into it because axl is such a egomaniacPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:47 pm / quote |
shadowsoverhell
: bassmanjoe08 wrote:
Billy Picken wrote:
True, but it's easier to catch the blogger that offered it for download, than whomever leaked it. So they catch him and he takes the whole rap.
At this point who really cares about Axl, GnR or CD?
Quite a few people, jackass. |
not me. but then, i never really gave a shit about GNR anyway, even with slash, all they were was a radio-friendly pop-metal pile of shit.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 09:58 pm / quote |
metalmania1231
: That's kinda funny, they played 1 or 2 songs off the cd on the radio here in orlando.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:01 pm / quote |
Axl_Tyler
: Most of the songs from Chinese Democracy are great and the only reason that people are saying they suck is because they were written and performed by W. Axl Rose. I think it's pathetic how people hate Axl even though all he's done is give us some of the best music of all time. Axl is GnR and Chinese Democracy is gonna be f'ing epic!POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:10 pm / quote |
SabbathFlames88
: "Quick, stop looking for Osama, we have a quy playing songs from a cd which should have come out 10 something years ago!"POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:30 pm / quote |
Bunyip
: Axle: My Preciousssss. Its all mine.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:31 pm / quote |
Bunyip
: haha axl was actually the serious one in the band and the rest of them all got kicked out cus they were junkies and alchoholics at the time. its funny how he turned out to be the baddy just cus he has a big mouthPOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:46 pm / quote |
m1chael w0rkman
: Xanron wrote:
ilikebass wrote:
I hate Guns n' Roses so much.
-1 |
*32?
I hate Guns N Roses now,
But I LOVE Guns n Roses from UYI and back more than any other band...ever.POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 10:56 pm / quote |
kendog1327
: who cares about this washed up has been,,this isn,t even news,,it,s a jokePOSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:06 pm / quote |
Rengori
: Is it just me, or do people only get arrested for STREAMING songs?POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:11 pm / quote |
Dethonator
: Chinese Democracy won't sell that much, since it isn't really that hyped. WHY? Because people will probably download them, and sell them on the streets. They are already doing that in public in third world countries, where nobody cares. Its pretty sad. Just release it, Axl!POSTED: 08/28/2008 - 11:51 pm / quote |
thenextkirk92
: Fair enough that it was streamed. Thats the only way we will probably get to hear it.POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 12:30 am / quote |
Sloofus
: Axl_Tyler wrote:
Most of the songs from Chinese Democracy are great and the only reason that people are saying they suck is because they were written and performed by W. Axl Rose. I think it's pathetic how people hate Axl even though all he's done is give us some of the best music of all time. Axl is GnR and Chinese Democracy is gonna be f'ing epic! |
No... No it's not. Axl is not GnR either. He's actually quite the douche. I know this probably comes as a shock to you, but all three of those statements are true.POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 01:05 am / quote |
strikethree
: Why keep the original band name when there's only one mofo left? That mofo Shouldn't keep GNR name unless original members are part of it. That mofo thinks just because the GNR name is plastered on a "NEW" album that i will buy it. BULLSHIT!!! Music has to soung good first which IMO GNR Sucked and will suck ass anyways.POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 01:31 am / quote |
GNR'n'A7X
: So this is how Axl's paying for Chinese Democracy... brilliant!
-DDPPOSTED: 08/29/2008 - 01:39 am / quote |
gibson-sg-rocks
: CATCH REAL CRIMINALS. GNR are rich enough. poor guy.POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 02:21 am / quote |
Shinsen88
: I just know this is going to delay the release again...POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 02:25 am / quote |
Markhimself
: Axl_Tyler wrote:
I love how everyone hates Axl even though all they know about him comes from the media... I wouldn't take the media's word for anything if I wanted to know the truth about something. Axl Rose is pretty much my hero! Leave him alone! |
Listen to any interview of Ex GNR members, they all say he's a douche. SLASH is god RAAaaahhhh!POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 03:20 am / quote |
Markhimself
: Bunyip wrote:
haha axl was actually the serious one in the band and the rest of them all got kicked out cus they were junkies and alchoholics at the time. its funny how he turned out to be the baddy just cus he has a big mouth | LOL the "serious" one! If every band went and kicked out its members for bein alcoholics an junkies we'd all be listening to christian bands. Because serious artists take 15 years to produce albums :P POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 03:27 am / quote |
ShadowsThatMove
: Markhimself wrote:
Bunyip wrote:
haha axl was actually the serious one in the band and the rest of them all got kicked out cus they were junkies and alchoholics at the time. its funny how he turned out to be the baddy just cus he has a big mouth LOL the "serious" one! If every band went and kicked out its members for bein alcoholics an junkies we'd all be listening to christian bands. Because serious artists take 15 years to produce albums :P |
+1POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 05:45 am / quote |
m
: SabbathFlames88 wrote:
"Quick, stop looking for Osama, we have a quy playing songs from a cd which should have come out 10 something years ago!" |
yeah, because the army was brought back from Afghanistan to get this guy.
also, checkedPOSTED: 08/29/2008 - 07:18 am / quote |
l3xbi
: When they're out, They'll be on their myspace page anyway!!! Whats the problem? They aint all that great now, they wont be when it's released either.POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 08:25 am / quote |
-krojbjork-
: is anyone actually going to buy this shit? axl is not a serious musician nor is he an artist he is a ginger with ****ing corn rows. disgusting.POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 09:19 am / quote |
shadow__666
: Slash and Duff should post his bail.
POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 09:29 am / quote |
Perpetual Burn
: OMG 15 years! OMG! Half of the people posting here aren't even that old. So lets all bitch about how long 15 years is. POSTED: 08/29/2008 - 10:44 am / quote |
fishee9857
: phishfan08 wrote:
Slash and Duff need to ask for the guy to be pardoned because we all know Axl is too much of a d&ck to do it.
WTF is AXL's real name anyway??? what a queer.
William Bruce Rose, Jr.
i've heard the album... it's not guns n roses classic but it's not bad for a rock band
wow how can so many gnr fans not know his name....here is the whole story
http://www.blurtit.com/q667465.htmlPOSTED: 08/30/2008 - 05:59 pm / quote |
Th6r6a6sH
: Axl should head a press conference and walk out to the podium with a Dr. Pepper and just before he speaks about this heinous act, he says not directly into the mic, "Damn, that's a good pop."POSTED: 09/02/2008 - 09:49 pm / quote |
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