Bob Dylan's grandson Pablo Dylan has paid tribute to the legendary singer, describing him as the "Jay-Z of his time".
The 15-year-old recently released his first hip-hop mixtape '10 Minutes' and said that his granddad "feels strongly" about his music.
Pablo told Allhiphop.com: "My grandfather, I consider him the Jay-Z of his time, and he definitely has a legacy that a lot of people look up to. I love him to death."
Although their music is from different sides of the tracks, Pablo insisted that he is influenced by Bob's tunes.
"Of course we do two different things, and I don't want people to see me for what he has done. But, what I have done, I mean from a musical and personal standpoint, is definitely influenced by him", he said.
You can download "10 Minutes" by clicking here - scroll down to hear a track from it, "Top Of The World".
Bob Dylan is currently touring the US - he's due to play in Thackerville in Oklahoma on July 23 before moving on to dates in New Braunfels, New Orleans, Pensacola and Atlanta next week.
Well, this may seem completely stupid at first but it kind of makes sense.... Just barely...
Bob Dylan was a story teller. Rap can be used to tell stories. Old Jay Z definitely was (his first album was full of stories about being in the mafia).
I dunno though. Apart from that it's just a weird comparison to make. It's like saying "Kate Winslet was the Bela Lugosi of our times". Two different genres.
Lies. Bob Dylan's good and Jay Z isn't. Bob can't be the Jay Z of his time because Jay Z is sh*t and Bob Dylan is great. Simple as that. Got it? Good job!
wow. im glad petey pablo dylan thinks so highly of his grandfather to compare him to the likes of the king of NEW YORK!!! guess what homo, Bobby was freewheelin in Greenwich village before Jay Z was even alive declared himself the king of NY. (A title that he definately stole from Nas, so screw Jay Z in the first place, hes nothing special sorry....)
Pablo your music sucks. Jacob Dylans country and blues > Petey Pablo Dylan. what a disgrace
I'm not a rap fan and I'll admit that outright, but Bob Dylan is so much more legendary than Jay Z ever will be. Bob Dylan was part of a movement. He inspired people to rise up. Jay Z has done nothing like that.
okay yes this song sucks hard. but why is everyone dissing on jay z? the guy isnt shit he's one of the most influential artists of our time, but i wouldnt say he's the bob dylan of our time.
Let me tell you what Bob Dylan is Pablo, Bob dylan is an absolute ****ing legend. Jay-z isn't anywhere close to that status. 99 problems but a bitch ain't one... yep really up to Dylan standards...sureee. Disgusting.
I only disagree on the basis that a long-standing and influential singer/songwriter/musician is being compared to a mediocre, overhyped, rapping, formerly drug dealing piece of human garbage.
next up for the masses? the ultimate comparison of Led Zeppelin and how they were the justin beiber, or however you spell that shit, of their time. these comparisons are communist.
Jay-Z is brilliant, he's not had a chance to have the massive cultural impact Bob Dylan has, but he's in the process of it at the moment. Anyone on here who hates on Jay hasn't heard him.
Shame Pablo's song sucks. His statement is still valid though.
this comment is asinine. If anything Jay-z should be put into terms of bob dylan, not the otherway around. (Jay-z is the Bob Dylan of our time) even though its not true
Are you guys kidding? I understand you don't like rap and all, but Jay-Z is a hugely famous and influential musician to his genre. While this might not be a perfect analogy, it's by no means as baseless as you all are claiming. This kid didn't claim Jay-Z was as good as Bob Dylan, he implied they were similar cultural figures to their respective styles, with similar magnitudes of influence, which is probably true. Equally true with their world impact; in fact, I would contend that Jay-Z has improved people's lives in a more (or at least, comparably) concrete manner. He has donated in excess of $1 million to the American Red Cross, and made a documentary in partnership with the United Nations for the purpose of aiding global water shortage. Bob Dylan has played a couple charity concerts and participated in the civil rights movement by being Bob Dylan. Oh yeah, he wrote some good songs too. No one here has given any sort of objective measure by which you may compare these artists. When you assert that this claim is horrible because "Bob Dylan's awesome and Jay-Z's not" it makes you look uneducated and incapable of critical thought.
Pretty bad. Pretty damn bad. I woulda never guessed he's related in any way to Bob Dylan. Not that he should try to sound like Bob, but still. He's awful.
Bob Dylan didnt get popular by sampling other musicians work. Jay-Z on the other hand...
well a lot of Bob Dylan's early songs are based on traditional music, 'Blowin in the Wind' was an adaptation of the old Negro spiritual "No More Auction Block", for example, so, in a way, he kinda did sample other musicians work
i'd hardly consider a guy who sings big pimpin to be in the same league as the greatest living poet of our times lol. Not that i don't like jay z but damn.
Jay-Z is brilliant, he's not had a chance to have the massive cultural impact Bob Dylan has, but he's in the process of it at the moment. Anyone on here who hates on Jay hasn't heard him.
Shame Pablo's song sucks. His statement is still valid though.
He hasn't had a chance?!
He spent years invading my earspace with songs like Big Pimpin', Hard Knock Life, 99 Problems, etc. Those songs were each released years apart, coming from albums full of your typical rap jargon and word-spewing nonsense just putting words together that rhyme, about things he probably has a vague perception of, all while sampling Little Orphan Annie.
In the same amount of time, Bob Dylan recorded albums upon albums practically full of great, introspective songs, addressing numerous political and social issues; opening people's minds to acceptance of some things and intolerance of other things, going against the norm, and providing a voice for a generation.
Jay-Z talks about "Big pimpin', spendin' cheese."
Now, don't get me wrong. That's not the best example. I've jeard quite a bit of Jay-Z's material. 99 Problems is the most introspective, most socially/politically motivated song I've ever heard from him. It addresses a few topics, but the one that stood out to me was racism/ageism in law enforcement. I've never really heard another song from him that wasn't just spewing words that kind of rhyme about murder, drug deals, philanthropy, prositutes/sluts, and how hard it is to live as a black man (most of which I'm sure he has had very little first-hand experience with, aside from some drug dealing, philanthropy, and sluts).
Also, he's no great rapper. He's an average rapper; an average rap writer (assuming he writes it himself), and an average rap performer.
I could call myself The King of Yogurt, but that don't make it true. But apparently, if I say it enough times to enough people, eventually, when I walk by people will say, "There goes The King of Yogurt. He makes the best yogurt in the world."
I've yet to hear a rapper more clever, talented, and boundary-pushing than Eminem was in the first few years of his career.
Bob Dylan didnt get popular by sampling other musicians work. Jay-Z on the other hand...Dylan's first album had 2 original songs. Out of 13 total songs.
Shut the **** up.
But that's not sampling now is it?
Anyway, it would be interesting to see his reasoning behind that comment. He just says that but doesn't back it up with anything... he's 15 so I'm curious if he actually has anything to base that comment on...
Lies. Bob Dylan's good and Jay Z isn't. Bob can't be the Jay Z of his time because Jay Z is sh*t and Bob Dylan is great. Simple as that. Got it? Good job!
Wow, nice, um, reasoning(?) you've got there...
Horribly ignorant comments aside, this seems like a bit of a mixed-up statement, as many have noted- shouldn't it be "Jay-Z is the Bob Dylan of his time"? He's not (not disputing that he's great, just not quite Dylan), but he certainly deserves some sort of status in popular music considering his impact.
Some of you need to appreciate music a little bit more, not just BR00T4L M3T4L.
Jay-Z is a brilliant storyteller/lyricist, if you all think hip-hop is about women and cars, you really need to dig deeper for some good hip-hop (which came from soul, blues and funk music), start listening to ANYTHING including the rapper MF Doom, Shad, or basically just search conscious hip-hop.
Get your heads out of your asses.
Also willing to bet good money that almost no one here whose immediate reaction to the statement was disgust has ever listened to Jay-Z's best work. Go hear Reasonable Doubt and the Blueprint, then come back and tell me his music wasn't important.
I used to come on this site to see metal-related news... Too much rap, Gaga, Winehouse, Kesha related news on this site since a few weeks.
Too much? Almost every second topic is metal-related! Though I do see the problem with posting pop and hip-hop stuff on a guitar site (not very relevant, is it?), rock has more subgenres than just metal, and this site already has a strong bias towards it. I would actually like to see some indie rock/alternative rock news (note to staff: Muse is neither of these). That almost never gets posted.
Jay-Z is brilliant, he's not had a chance to have the massive cultural impact Bob Dylan has, but he's in the process of it at the moment. Anyone on here who hates on Jay hasn't heard him.
I do not enjoy Jay-Z's brand of hip hop. However, he is a tremendous modern popular artist and certainly one of the more reputable mainstream rappers. However, I don't think his cultural legacy will be anywhere near that of Bob's. I say this with all due respect, but I believe it to be true.
Pagan_Poetry wrote:
It's like saying "Kate Winslet was the Bela Lugosi of our times". Two different genres.
Also willing to bet good money that almost no one here whose immediate reaction to the statement was disgust has ever listened to Jay-Z's best work. Go hear Reasonable Doubt and the Blueprint, then come back and tell me his music wasn't important.
I've heard them. I still think Jay-Z is a run-of-the-mill rapper/writer/artist. Sure, he's better than the Drakes and maybe the Lil' Waynes, but I'd take a young Dr. Dre, Eazy-E, Bone thugs-n-harmony, Snoop Doggy Dogg (not Snoop Dogg), early Eminem, and a little 2Pac and B.I.G. over Jay-Z any day of the week for the rest of my life.
He's a much better businessman than he is a musical artist.
Come to think of it, Kanye West seems like a much more talented rapper and producer than Jay-Z. ...and I immensely hate Kanye West. I'm not sure if Jay-Z has ever even produced any of his own music.
Some of you need to appreciate music a little bit more, not just BR00T4L M3T4L.
Jay-Z is a brilliant storyteller/lyricist, if you all think hip-hop is about women and cars, you really need to dig deeper for some good hip-hop (which came from soul, blues and funk music), start listening to ANYTHING including the rapper MF Doom, Shad, or basically just search conscious hip-hop.
Get your heads out of your asses.
next up for the masses? the ultimate comparison of Led Zeppelin and how they were the justin beiber, or however you spell that shit, of their time. these comparisons are communist.
lvd1 wrote:
communists do things that only make sense for them selves and the rest of the world knows its wrong. clear enough?
You know, this community just kind of sucks.[/quote
Agreed. Hey were you aware that metal isn't the only genre that uses guitars? What's that? POP music uses guitars too?! No way! Just because you're so "br00tal" doesn't mean you can dismiss everything as rubbish. I don't even listen to pop, urban or rap music much at all but atleast I know to appreciate certain aspects. Like Kanye West's newest album? Brilliant production. Just stop, you're making yourselves appear rather ignorant and juvenile.
Some of you need to appreciate music a little bit more, not just BR00T4L M3T4L.
Jay-Z is a brilliant storyteller/lyricist, if you all think hip-hop is about women and cars, you really need to dig deeper for some good hip-hop (which came from soul, blues and funk music), start listening to ANYTHING including the rapper MF Doom, Shad, or basically just search conscious hip-hop.
Get your heads out of your asses.
Nah, I don't feel like it. Rap sucks.
Not at all. Dylan changed the world. Changed music forever. While Jay-Z is a respectable rapper, he's still not very influential when it comes to music. Maybe when it comes to Rocawear though...
it really sucks to read these comment sections from time to time and find out all over again that I go to a website full of 'music elitists' if you knew anything about Rap you would know Jay-Z is a big ****in deal in their community just like Bob dyaln is to the classic rock/60's,70's crowd
don't say an artist sucks if the only thing you know about him was what you heard from your scene friend in jr.high
You guys are idiots. Learn to appreciate more than metal. Having said that, that song ****ing sucked. And whilst i would't rate Jay up with the likes of MF Doom or Nas, he's a pretty big deal, and he was pretty influential.
Illiterate, monotonous rambling over synthetic beats and sound effects is not music. Rap is garbage. I can't believe how many ignorant turds on this site would defend rap as if it were a music appreciation issue.
I always come and read these comment sections, and become a little more ashamed every time of being a Metalhead. I love Hip-Hop, and respect Jay-Z, and what he does; but I wouldn't compare Dylan to Jay, there's just no correlation in my opinion. Also that song sucked, turned it off as soon as the Autotune came on.
Well, this may seem completely stupid at first but it kind of makes sense.... Just barely...
Bob Dylan was a story teller. Rap can be used to tell stories. Old Jay Z definitely was (his first album was full of stories about being in the mafia).
I dunno though. Apart from that it's just a weird comparison to make. It's like saying "Kate Winslet was the Bela Lugosi of our times". Two different genres.
Its not story telling, most of it is either just bragging about what you have and what other people dont have or how bad your life is.. Comparing Eminem to Gary moore is probably more valid because they both make music about their life and depresing/sad stuff.. (blues is usually from "I" point of view.. just like most rap and mainly eminem stuff)
Are you guys kidding? I understand you don't like rap and all, but Jay-Z is a hugely famous and influential musician to his genre. While this might not be a perfect analogy, it's by no means as baseless as you all are claiming. This kid didn't claim Jay-Z was as good as Bob Dylan, he implied they were similar cultural figures to their respective styles, with similar magnitudes of influence, which is probably true. Equally true with their world impact; in fact, I would contend that Jay-Z has improved people's lives in a more (or at least, comparably) concrete manner. He has donated in excess of $1 million to the American Red Cross, and made a documentary in partnership with the United Nations for the purpose of aiding global water shortage. Bob Dylan has played a couple charity concerts and participated in the civil rights movement by being Bob Dylan. Oh yeah, he wrote some good songs too. No one here has given any sort of objective measure by which you may compare these artists. When you assert that this claim is horrible because "Bob Dylan's awesome and Jay-Z's not" it makes you look uneducated and incapable of critical thought.
You know, this community just kind of sucks.[/quote
Agreed. Hey were you aware that metal isn't the only genre that uses guitars? What's that? POP music uses guitars too?! No way! Just because you're so "br00tal" doesn't mean you can dismiss everything as rubbish. I don't even listen to pop, urban or rap music much at all but atleast I know to appreciate certain aspects. Like Kanye West's newest album? Brilliant production. Just stop, you're making yourselves appear rather ignorant and juvenile.
i'll take terrible production and musical skill/soul
okay i used it metaphoricaly. yes communism is based on the "sharing theory" and it's polotics, i get it. but since when are polotics and music seperate? we're talking about dylan right? or should i really piss people off and say the song "imagine" was not about unity but instead about communism and how lennon wanted it to spread. take it easy, besides i'm not claiming to know it all or be bigger than jesus am i? i thought the comparrison sucked and i think communism sucks. the communism remark was to intensify my dislike of the comparison that's all. ubless you're a commie and it stung.
lvd1 wrote:
communists do things that only make sense for them selves and the rest of the world knows its wrong. clear enough?
no...not at all...you have no idea what communism is do you?[/quote]
If your only response to someone rightly pointing out that rap isn't music is: "Waaaaametalwaaaahhhh", then don't try condescending. Metal wasn't even mentioned until you crybabies did it.
Are you guys kidding? I understand you don't like rap and all, but Jay-Z is a hugely famous and influential musician to his genre. While this might not be a perfect analogy, it's by no means as baseless as you all are claiming. This kid didn't claim Jay-Z was as good as Bob Dylan, he implied they were similar cultural figures to their respective styles, with similar magnitudes of influence, which is probably true. Equally true with their world impact; in fact, I would contend that Jay-Z has improved people's lives in a more (or at least, comparably) concrete manner. He has donated in excess of $1 million to the American Red Cross, and made a documentary in partnership with the United Nations for the purpose of aiding global water shortage. Bob Dylan has played a couple charity concerts and participated in the civil rights movement by being Bob Dylan. Oh yeah, he wrote some good songs too. No one here has given any sort of objective measure by which you may compare these artists. When you assert that this claim is horrible because "Bob Dylan's awesome and Jay-Z's not" it makes you look uneducated and incapable of critical thought.
Dylans awesome and Jay Z is not! Music is like candy, you throw away the rappers.
If your only response to someone rightly pointing out that rap isn't music is: "Waaaaametalwaaaahhhh", then don't try condescending. Metal wasn't even mentioned until you crybabies did it.
Rap is to music as crap is to food.
I don't agree with the "Rap is crap" mentality. There are plenty of good rappers, Sage Francis for example, brilliant man, who writes some pretty great music. Most of the good stuff isn't really on the surface of the Rap/Hip-Hop scene.
OT: I don't think Jay-Z will be remembered in 20 years, and really isn't a good example to be "The Bob Dylan of this time", IMO.
It's kind of unfortunate that alot of the people on UG are so closed-minded towards rap and hip-hop.
you guys have to understand that there's more to other music than what's in the mainstream.
still, i can't imagine the comments section in Allhiphop.com would be any different; "Jay-Z is 1000 times better than Bob Dylan, Rock music sucks!"
P.S. metal isn't exactly a holy grail of music. there's soooo much technique and not enough feel nowadays that it often sounds like it may have been programmed on a computer (which, as my music teacher pointed out, is becoming more the case nowadays).
little note, the teacher i spoke of is actually Ian Treacy of Benediction XD
Wow so many people hating on metal.....and no one but the hatred mentioned it :/
Sorry guys, I'm not sure what you are listening to but Bob Dylan isn't br00tal metal, as you put it so can you stfu about it please?
Haters gonna hate.
It's sad, because Jay-Z has more musical talent than Bob Dylan. While I love Bob Dylan, it doesn't take any respectable amount of skill to play songs made up of a few chords and sing on top of it (if you can even call it singing - it's more just talking than anything else). UG... I'm disappointed in you. Maybe this site really is made up of brainless 14 year olds.
Also, Impossible, Bob was a musician, Jay-Z is a musician wannabe, A.K.A. hip-hop, rap etc, BIG difference. And Bob had serious talent, If I was Bob, I'd punch the brat.
"I'm the grandson of a man, nothing less than legendary, that's a lot of pressure, so I, Berry Gordy, I am very motown, bitch! I'ma get my crown, while I'm at it, I might reinvent sound!"
The lyrics are laughably stupid. A blatant use of his family fame to try and grab some of his own. Awful, awful stuff.
By the way, people claiming that this is a fair representation of all rap and modern hip-hop are basement dwelling, obsessive masturbators. Get your heads out of your asses.
I don't even like Bob Dylan, but this is an insult to someone who has been influential to so many people for the last 50 years to be compared to a talentless rap artist.
Some of you need to appreciate music a little bit more, not just BR00T4L M3T4L.
Jay-Z is a brilliant storyteller/lyricist, if you all think hip-hop is about women and cars, you really need to dig deeper for some good hip-hop (which came from soul, blues and funk music), start listening to ANYTHING including the rapper MF Doom, Shad, or basically just search conscious hip-hop.
Get your heads out of your asses.
Nah, I don't feel like it. Rap sucks.
That's okay, it's not called rap, it's called hip-hop. Rapping is a vocal style. Therefore your opinion means nothing to me.
he's 15, making a comment probably for other 15 year olds. It sounds more like he means everyone knew who his grandfather was then, just as now younger people all know who jay z is. I dont think it was supposed to be a comparison or talent. but hey, who knows?
argh, I really dislike music like that!
hip-hop is all over the radio, and all I hear is unreal computer beats and synth combined by boring "singing".
Still just my opinion, no one have to agree.
All of you complaining sound like asses. Music is music and you need to learn to respect other types whether you like it or not. Anyway, I find it funny that Bob Dylan's grandson is a rapper.
Bob Dylan didnt get popular by sampling other musicians work. Jay-Z on the other hand...Dylan's first album had 2 original songs. Out of 13 total songs.
Shut the **** up.
Covering a song and sampling a song are two completely different things. Nice try though.
I think everyone has a right to their own opinion.
But Pablo sounds more like he is stating a fact.
Ok then, here is MY opinion. Pablo is a ****ing moron.
Not much of a compliment really. Mainly because they're from two different genres, and also because Bob's influenced many people, and stood out during his time, whereas Jay-Z sounds the same as god knows how many other rappers (such as Pablo).
Not even going to bother reading this post...cause its the stupiest commentary. Some of that is probably true but realistically...what Dylan stood for as a musician was his gutsiness of singing about his views on social issues and left wing stance. Jay-Z raps about complete nonsense in relation. Dylan pioneered the next level of the protest song similar to how Woody Guthrie did; he inspired tons of different artists in various genres. Singer songwriters who have done the same, think about Rage against the machine and system of a down... neil young, the list goes on. Jay-z has influenced a young afro-american demographic to aspire to be at his level. Plus, you never saw bob dylan flaunting his wealth by smoking cigars worth thousands of dollars and drinking champagne like its water.
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Bob Dylan was a story teller. Rap can be used to tell stories. Old Jay Z definitely was (his first album was full of stories about being in the mafia).
I dunno though. Apart from that it's just a weird comparison to make. It's like saying "Kate Winslet was the Bela Lugosi of our times". Two different genres.