Chiodos Frontman Attempts Suicide

The troubled frontman attempted a drugs overdose at his Michigan home on July 20 and has subsequently checked into an undisclosed mental health facility.

A post on Craig Owens' (Chiodos) website was recently removed, it originally read as follows:

"so, after an attempted overdose early yesterday morning, i found myself awake in the emergency room around 8 - 12 hours later.

however, don’t worry about me, i’m fine. i am being checked into a mental clinic beginning tomorrow at 8 am.

i’d like to apologize to everyone at Power Chord Academy, for me not being able to make it to speak to all of the kids tomorrow in Chicago. i promise to make it up, the best that i can and hopefully will be able to reschedule the entire event.

wish me luck, and let’s hope that i learn from this, and that i am able get out very soon.

craig.

Owens has now been referred to a mental clinic where he is currently being set for recovery before returning to play with Chiodos in the States starting August 10th.

Comments

[the boogieman]

seems like everyone is attempting to commit suicide these days

its sort of ****ed up

[xDeadReckoningx]

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL

[Chiodosrules_54]

dude....i like chiodos, but now that craig did this???
idk.

[rasinañte]

I dont think he was bragging about it. I would do anything to get out of speaking at power chord academy too though.

[JRazzle]

his post in a nutshell is pretty much saying "you need to care about me."

[HoldYourColour]

i know a lot of people that like Chiodos

this is rather pathetic, and people will be disappointed

[JRazzle]

he didn't mess it up, he didn't want to die, he wanted attention.

[columbus]

wow that makes 3 posts for JRazzle in the same day. You obviously care about him if you keep responding. I can't wait to see what he has cooking up for post number 4. Yeah i was pretty sure this was going to happen sometime in this guys life. I met him at a show once and he was pretty nice but whatever.

[Mud Martian]

Don't know the guy or his band, but I hope he gets through it. Been there and know what it's like.

[89cruefan]

must have needed attention badly.
1) i didnt even know who he was
2) i didnt even know the band
3) fail

[Theta]

All of the people who are saying, "oh, hes such an emo" and "how do you mess up killing yourself, EMO!" need to grow up. First of all, he's obviously got some mental issues, hence the checking into a mental facility. Second of all, it was a drug overdose. You can't control whether or not it will kill you.

Now, i'm not defending his actions in anyway. I think suicide isn't the answer to things. But seriously, some ignorant people need to grow up for once.

Checked.

I've had to warn a lot of people already, you all need to learn some respect and just keep your mouth shut when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[brokenairguitar]

You guys are horrible. I don't know the frontman or the band at all, but you guys are the worst kind of ugly. How dare you make light of something like this. Even if it is for attention, you have no way to discern that from the post. His situation should be treated as delicately as if he actually committed suicide. Society filled with people like you all is the reason we live in such a hate-filled world. Grow up and give life some respect.

[Liam Alan]

That statement sound of half ass setiment. He didn't even sound remotely sincere. I am fine...going to check into a mental clinic...la de da. Just like cruefan says sounds like someone was looking for precious attention. Well he got it. BE fore this I didn't even know of a Chiodos. Now I know the frontman is a douche.

[moodster]

"this article is 52% spam-free"

Woah


But really, I think it says a lot about an individual if they try to attempt suicide. For me, it shows that they're pretty much cowardly, they don't have the courage to face up to the horrors of life that the other 6+ Billion people on earth face every single day.

And to those guy making emo jokes, stfu, we've all been depressed before.

[SideshowRaven24]

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL

awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

[Friendly Stoat]

I can't believe the ignorance and childishness of some of you pricks.

[14shadesofblue]

I would try to fake suicide too to get out of speaking at power chord academy.

[MeGaDeth2314]

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL


awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

He's clearly NOT troubled. Nobody who is mentally disturbed enough to try and kill themselves posts it on their website the next day and says "don't worry about me, i'm fine, i'm checking into a mental hospital and everything will be ok!" They're usually a little too preoccupied being, you know, depressed/insane.

[zekk]

There needs to be an IQ test to allow people to use the internet. Some of you people are ****ing moronic and plain disrespectful. Keep your opinions of weither he did it for the attention or not to yourself, because YOU have no way of knowing.

[dan_d_superman]

i lol'd, his words don't even sound phased with the situation. must be the depressants

[zekk]

MeGaDeth2314 wrote:

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL


awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

He's clearly NOT troubled. Nobody who is mentally disturbed enough to try and kill themselves posts it on their website the next day and says "don't worry about me, i'm fine, i'm checking into a mental hospital and everything will be ok!" They're usually a little too preoccupied being, you know, depressed/insane.

Some people actually DO realize when they have a problem and seek out help for it, and in another way it is some peoples nature to tell others not to worry about them.

[aunt jemima]

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL


awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

amen, people need to quit making assumptions about suicide in general. i'd bet money that not a single person on this forum who's flaming Craig for this has ever had one bit of experience with suicide.
i personally don't care why he tried, the fact is that he did it and he recognized that something was wrong. hence, the mental health facility. best wishes to him.

[eddyh138]

well you know he was only doing it for attention because as you can see, in his attempt he FAILED.

any person that actually trying to committ suicide would have either jumped off a building or stuck a knife in their heart or something. anything that was a guaranteed death.

P.S. anyone who's all lk "aww man ur F*ed up! screw you" and try to debate, you can suck one

[joker_thief]

some people have some deep issues and some of you are obviously to deep in your own shit to realize that it can happen to anyone from blue collar joe to a billionare. it's sad to see people abusing the anonymity of the internet to criticize the flaws of someone the don't even know while they're clearly not perfect.

[GuitarHero0715]

=[

[HandT]

I don't like the band, but it is ridiculous for so many of you commenting here to be so disrespectul when the guy is obviously troubled. Yeah, I expected it, but it is still disappointing.

[pacificblue]

being depressed is different to suffering bad times in your life. depression is a mental condition, and it sounds like a lot of the kids posting here don't realise this. wise up. i hope the guy gets the help that he needs.

[GuitarHero0715]

Craig seemed like a really nice guy when I met him, but you could kinda feel a little sadness when he spoke.

[BHC zoley]

They were playing with protest back in April/May when they unexpectedly canceled shows due to family emergency. could have something to do with this methinks?

[Saofan12]

such a good singer but this worries me a bit, seems like a cry for attention but im a huge fan and it hasnt tainted my opinion of chiodos at all

[the agony scene]

more irony than a staple sandwich

[valentinezxifax]

JRazzle wrote:

he didn't mess it up, he didn't want to die, he wanted attention.

bingo.

[lextexrex]

Michigan? I'm from Michigan!!! I don't drink or do drugs, but I can see where suicide comes from.

[Dirtydeeds468]

MeGaDeth2314 wrote:

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL


awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

He's clearly NOT troubled. Nobody who is mentally disturbed enough to try and kill themselves posts it on their website the next day and says "don't worry about me, i'm fine, i'm checking into a mental hospital and everything will be ok!" They're usually a little too preoccupied being, you know, depressed/insane.

I'm going to have to agree with you there.

[fiftysteps]

I have a successful band and doing good in life, there are hundreds if not thousands of other youngsters that would like to be in my shoes right now, let me just throw it all away.

Pathetic.

[Tatakai!]

I'm glad he's ok. I just hope he gets out of it ok.

[jonathanonfire]

wow. you people have no sympathy/empathy.
you don't know if it was really for the attention or not.
i personally don't like chiodos at all really, but i'm not gonna knock on someones suicide attempt or mental health. that's just ****ed up. you're not that cool.

[mrfinkle213]

Alright, so he tried to overdose. Big deal, doesn't change his music. I still plan to see them on October 2nd.

[E V H 5150]

Attempting suicide- or even succeeding at it, if it can be called that- does not imply weakness. It does not imply cowardice. It implies nothing. We can't tell why he did what he did. Fact is, he did, and he needs help.

Suicide is the "ultimate solution" and maybe he thought that things in his life were so terrible that suicide was the only way out. Whatever the case is, most of the things people are saying should be kept to themselves. It is a selfish act, but one factor into suicide is attention. Not necessarily from fans or the world or anything like that, but from the people close to him. His family, friends, stuff like that.

[mrfinkle213]

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

[DeadXsouls]

So, I'm just trying to figure out how all you people know whether or not he was sincere. You didn't hear him, you don't know what the **** was going through his head. Stop acting like you know the guy. He obviously has something wrong in the head if they're putting him in a mental health clinic for almost a month. Seriously guys, be more ****ing respectful.

[oddhawk676]

I hate the Ciodos but Craig seems like a friendly fellow, doing stuff with kids at camp and all.

[The Spoon]

Damn that sucks. I hope he gets better. But i would think someone like him wouldnt want to commit suicide.

[travd92]

it seems like people are getting weaker and weaker in today's society and can't overcome their personal problems. its sad.

[Gibson_SG_uzr55]

Well, at least he didn't die, hopefully he gets well.


And I can't believe so many *******s came in here.

[ImagineTheThorn]

eddyh138 wrote:

well you know he was only doing it for attention because as you can see, in his attempt he FAILED.

any person that actually trying to committ suicide would have either jumped off a building or stuck a knife in their heart or something. anything that was a guaranteed death.

P.S. anyone who's all lk "aww man ur F*ed up! screw you" and try to debate, you can suck one

That's not true. Jumping off a building, or stabbing yourself takes a tremendous amount of courage, and that persons last hour, odds are they dont have that much. Which is why drug overdoses are so common.

[SideshowRaven24]

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

you are a very wise man.

[The-13roken]

I think it's ridiculous how he was supposed to speak with kids at power chord academy... I mean seriously is that the kind of person you want speaking to your kids about something... talk about setting a bad example...

[SideshowRaven24]

Dreaming-V wrote:

LOL I never heard of the band and i thought this band was emo cuz of the news, so i wikied the band and guess wut the genre said....EMO

agh grow the hell up, man.

[sebbsmith]

Fuck.

Even if you don't like them, don't be a dick about it. He's a human being, just troubled.

[MakeItWitChu]

Only cool people try to kill themselves..


just kidding..

[Alexishxc1337]

strat0blaster wrote:

See kids? Playing bad music over a period of years really DOES catch up to you eventually.

Grow up.

That's really a shame though, I hope he recovers.
Doesn't really seem like the type of guy to attempt it though =/

[MetalHead324]

wow.... attempted suicide is like the biggest fail you can have lol

[isomniac19]

why is everybody making light of this. what if craig actually died? would you all still be sayin he did it for attention? you guys need to show him some respect and hope, for him, that he doesn't try this again and he gets help so that he can continue living his life.

checked

[punk_mike_88]

I kinda had a feeling this would occur after reading that interview he did with Blender. He said he use to date a girl and when they hung out, they'd cut themselves. I'm not even joking, google it or something.

[Six_One_Zipp]

isomniac19 wrote:

why is everybody making light of this. what if craig actually died? would you all still be sayin he did it for attention? you guys need to show him some respect and hope, for him, that he doesn't try this again and he gets help so that he can continue living his life.

Why should I show respect for someone who tried to kill himself?

This guy fails. He's in a pretty successful band, he's making good money (judging by all the Chiodos merch I see in my school), and he tries to throw it all away just because he's a little depressed. IMO I should LOSE respect for this guy, not gain it.

[MetalWhiteRoses]

He's clearly NOT troubled. Nobody who is mentally disturbed enough to try and kill themselves posts it on their website the next day and says "don't worry about me, i'm fine, i'm checking into a mental hospital and everything will be ok!" They're usually a little too preoccupied being, you know, depressed/insane.

Its not like anyone has a PR Rep in this country and his signature is on it too it had to be him who typed these words on the website it could never have been anyone else. right? all you stupid people who think you know what youre talking about please stop breathing for the good of all man kind and please stop saying hes a coward hes obviously going through a tough time and all you people who think you know him and have never even met him shut up, even if you met him once at a show you dont know him, neither do I but even if he is a crazy emo failure no one deserves to be scrutinized by a bunch of people who a re worth less than dirt

[DeadXsouls]

Six_One_Zipp wrote:

isomniac19 wrote:

why is everybody making light of this. what if craig actually died? would you all still be sayin he did it for attention? you guys need to show him some respect and hope, for him, that he doesn't try this again and he gets help so that he can continue living his life.

Why should I show respect for someone who tried to kill himself?

This guy fails. He's in a pretty successful band, he's making good money (judging by all the Chiodos merch I see in my school), and he tries to throw it all away just because he's a little depressed. IMO I should LOSE respect for this guy, not gain it.

Clinical Depression is a disease, and if they put him in a mental institution, then he obviously has it.

[mosh_rocker2006]

isomniac19 :
why is everybody making light of this. what if craig actually died? would you all still be sayin he did it for attention? you guys need to show him some respect and hope, for him, that he doesn't try this again and he gets help so that he can continue living his life.
POSTED: 07/24/2008 - 124 pm / quote |

Obviously most people don't want a human being to die, but when a human being tries to take their life and end it....then that just ruins the gift of life that we have. So it's not like i want the person dead. But the truth is anyone that wants to kill themselves is just stupid. Nothing...NOTHING in life is that bad to take away something as great as life. So hopefully he'll get better and maybe end up being a good example.

[Mental Hop]

Isomnica19 has a point. If he did kill himself there would have been 400 people going, "Aw RIP dude." "I never heard of him but RIP" Personally I think he's stupid and if he died I would have been one of the few who wouldn't have cared at all.

[goon316]

The fact that he wrote something like that shows it was probably more about attention than anything. Pretty sad, I hope for his sake he finds a difference avanue to get attension in the future because I'm sure he has other people in his life that would be very affected by his death.

[DeadXsouls]

goon316 wrote:

The fact that he wrote something like that shows it was probably more about attention than anything. Pretty sad, I hope for his sake he finds a difference avanue to get attension in the future because I'm sure he has other people in his life that would be very affected by his death.

Well, he has a different avenue for attention.

It's called his band dumbass.

That post was for the fans that would be wondering why he's missing shows.

He wanted people to hear it from him, instead of from some shitty site like absolutepunk.com

[Nilpferdkoenig]

Failing at suicide is like failing at failing.

[RunawayKaren]

1) Chiodos is terrible.
2) Suicide isn't hard to commit at all, How the hell did he fail at that? And on top of failing he's seemed to have gotten over it just enough to post it on a website! If I failed at something as easy as that I wouldn't want to talk about it. And as much as I hate to agree with the moronic emo bashing faggots, This craig sounds like he was looking for attention.

[randyaintdead82]

eddyh138 :
well you know he was only doing it for attention because as you can see, in his attempt he FAILED.

any person that actually trying to committ suicide would have either jumped off a building or stuck a knife in their heart or something. anything that was a guaranteed death.

im guessing you dont remember what Kurt did did you?
no, he was depressed alright if hes tryin to get attention he wont get help and hed do it all over again but he is so hes doin the right thing

[sowhat360]

Theta wrote:

All of the people who are saying, "oh, hes such an emo" and "how do you mess up killing yourself, EMO!" need to grow up. First of all, he's obviously got some mental issues, hence the checking into a mental facility. Second of all, it was a drug overdose. You can't control whether or not it will kill you.

Now, i'm not defending his actions in anyway. I think suicide isn't the answer to things. But seriously, some ignorant people need to grow up for once.

first of all, the you cant control if a drug overdose will kill you or not line is false. if you want to kill yourself by taking drugs you don't take enough to hover around the possibly dead limit, you take a shitload and call it a day.

second of all, this guy is taking this way to casual. if he was really trying to comit suicide he probably would have written another kind of note, not an apology letter to the fans.

[badfish2829]

It's a shame it happened, especially cause he's a talented musician. At the same time, he did it to himself.

You're in a famous band, making music for a living. Living out your dream, WHEN YOU ARE ON TOP OF THE WORLD...Don't Jump!

[sebbsmith]

RunawayKaren wrote:

1) Chiodos is terrible.
2) Suicide isn't hard to commit at all, How the hell did he fail at that? And on top of failing he's seemed to have gotten over it just enough to post it on a website! If I failed at something as easy as that I wouldn't want to talk about it. And as much as I hate to agree with the moronic emo bashing faggots, This craig sounds like he was looking for attention.

If its so simple, why don't you do it?

[mmm_watcha_say]

Wow I never thought he was really that messed up.

But then again some of their music videos are pretty weird/trippy.

[Melodic_Rocker]

i guess what drove him to it was listening to his own music

[tom0466]

I think it's funny how people think suicide is easy. A lot of people just pull a trigger or jump. Seriously, how ignorant can you be? It takes a lot to do that or even attempt it. Everyone saying he should have died or is a failure, you're frickin dicks. You have no idea what you're talking about. I hope Craig gets better. God bless him.

[Trivium!]

So if a famous musician commits suicide and succeeds they get 20x the fame and no disrespect, but when they fail they have to get made fun of by a bunch of kids who think they know what they're talking about online?

[RunawayKaren]

sebbsmith wrote:

If its so simple, why don't you do it?

What the ****. Was that supposed to be a comeback or some type of attempt at being funny?

[aedmiston]

taking the easy way out
spineless fag

[DeadXsouls]

RunawayKaren wrote:

sebbsmith wrote:

If its so simple, why don't you do it?What the ****. Was that supposed to be a comeback or some type of attempt at being funny?

Yea. at your bullshit comments.

[DeadXsouls]

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

Better luck on your attempt next time craig...



Seriously who gives a shit.

A lot of people.

Not only people who like Chiodos, but people who are sensitive enough to human life to know that a person needs help. He is getting that help, and hopefully will not try this again.

[whitesummer527]

don't like the band, don't know the guy. All i can say is i can see why someone would wanna kill themselves in a world like today and to the people who call him a fag and stuff, its people like you who help make this world a f**ked up place. I totally agree with Trivium!

[theone0103]

This guy is the nicest band member of any band that I've ever met, he was always cheerful and happy to see people. It's rather surprising he would ever want to commit suicide. For the type of music they have, his attitude is rather different. He's also in the band Cinematic Sunrise that was quite different from the "emo-esque" sound of Chiodos.

[TheVeneGuy]

I just love how they put a band aid on his forehead. I'm laughing

[slaptasticdave]

I'm glad he's ok and I hoe he gets the help he needs, maybe he'll even stop making bad music.

[LetsGoRedskins]

I have no idea who this guy is, but if you wanna actually kill yourself you'll do it. This guy is just getting the attention he wanted

[MetalOblivion93]

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

Yes, you are indeed a very wise man.

[Dear Juliet!]

Why do half of you people find this humerous?
There is nothing funny about an attempted scuicide.
No he did not do it for attention. And some of the things about it are pretty sketchy. But this guy has some serious problems and that is nothing to laugh about.
God gave him an amazing voice. And he doesn't understand it. Why don't you people quit making fun of him and pray for him?

[skyfire322]

He's just an attention *****. With the amount of young kids that listen to this "band", it's a little scary that he did this. What kind of message is it sending to the young, aspiring musicians? I used to have the smallest ounce of respect for them, and that's out the window now.

I guess the good thing is that he's getting help.

[silentdob]

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

Agreed 100%. The only reason most of these asses are being asses is because his music is considered emo/screamo and he isnt a guitar "legend".

[PleasantStreets]

The letter seems to be half-assed written by Craig or whoever representing him.

The tone of the letter doesn't sound so serious, and that's why people come and bash Craig's action.

If you want people to be serious about it, Craig, or the PR rep, make it sound serious, rather than a half ass emo shit failing at suicide.

[Roedy0309]

MetalHead324 wrote:

wow.... attempted suicide is like the biggest fail you can have lol

ya why dont they just take it like a man and put a gun to the head like cobains did?

[--Holy--Diver--]

i would be shameful if i had a failed attempted suicide.i think if i were as famous as him, i won't post in the internet or media for about a month.you know, to get to realize wtf i just did.but this guy, wow, not a day passed and he is clearly typing in his keyboard. i mean. wow.

[mtl's_god]

haha you guys are ****ing pathetic..if he really did it for attention then why are you giving it to him? what exactly would be the point in getting attention from attempting suicide?

[hollywood_scene]

while the post that craig wrote may seem "casual", we have no idea what he's thinking/feeling. So people really can't write him off like that...

and why would he do it for attention anyway? his band is pretty succesful.

and i can't believe that some people are making jokes like that about this. if your best friend did this, would you say "you're doing it for attention" or make a joke about why they did it and how they "failed"?
of course you wouldn't! you're just saying that and making jokes and stuff because you don't like craig/chiodos. which is dumb.

grow up.

[barnickd]

brokenairguitar wrote:

You guys are horrible. I don't know the frontman or the band at all, but you guys are the worst kind of ugly. How dare you make light of something like this. Even if it is for attention, you have no way to discern that from the post. His situation should be treated as delicately as if he actually committed suicide. Society filled with people like you all is the reason we live in such a hate-filled world. Grow up and give life some respect.

Lol. The lead singer sure didn't give life any repect when he attempted suicide. I don't care what the reason is. Trying to through away essentially the best and only gift humans have is the worst ****ing disgrace anyone can through upon themselves, and by what he put in his blog it seems he is just like whatever. Fuck that guy and all i can say is better luck nextime. And society filled with people like you treating this situation as delicately as possible and advocating pampering the victim is the reason this bullshit will probably happen again, or why thousands of people have to die before we finally say this is enough and we do something about it. Sometimes situations cannot be handled delicately.

[Colton165]

oh my god... the drugs didnt work. now i have to listen to the crappy girlish falsetto vocals blaring from the emo kids cars in the parking lot at school... yay... WHY DIDNT IT WORK!?

[Flying Couch]

MetalHead324 wrote:

wow.... attempted suicide is like the biggest fail you can have lol

No, I'm afraid you've one-upped it with this post.

It's not cool, what he's done. He needs to get his shit together, and get out of the spotlight till he does.

rasinañte wrote:

I dont think he was bragging about it. I would do anything to get out of speaking at power chord academy too though.

Ha! That made me laugh.

[Skuzzmo]

Fuck me, some of you people are so ****ing narrow minded. If it's for attention or not the guy's in trouble and needs help.

When the time comes and the shit hits YOUR fan, you're low and you need help I really hope that you don't come across some of these shallow ****s in here.

Compassion? What's that then?

Tossers

[TJM2482]

First Fallout Boy, now this dude. What scream/pop/emo failure is going to try to kill himself next? Hawthorne Heights?

[RunawayKaren]

DeadXsouls wrote:

RunawayKaren wrote:

sebbsmith wrote:

If its so simple, why don't you do it?What the ****. Was that supposed to be a comeback or some type of attempt at being funny?

Yea. at your bullshit comments.

Wow. Struck a nerve?

[Shayne777]

who's chidios?

[UOfan777]

TJM2482 wrote:

First Fallout Boy, now this dude. What scream/pop/emo failure is going to try to kill himself next? Hawthorne Heights?

well Casey did die. but he didnt kill himself...serious business dude.

and im kina mad now cause Chiodos was playing like 20 minutes away from my house. i guess not anymore.

i wish Craig the best.

[goneshootin]

i dont give a damn who this is.. attempting suicide is no way to set an example to anyone.. especially kids

[ticklemeemo]

Jesus, I would think you guys would be a little more understanding about this. After all, their guitarist can sweep! :O

By the way, who knows if he even wrote that on the site? It may have been a publicist or a band mate trying to deflect negative attention.

[mobious128]

Shayne777 wrote:

who's chidios?

Don't look them up, it's like an audio goatse.

[0h The Horror]

RunawayKaren :
DeadXsouls wrote:

RunawayKaren wrote:

sebbsmith wrote:

If its so simple, why don't you do it?What the ****. Was that supposed to be a comeback or some type of attempt at being funny?

Yea. at your bullshit comments.
Wow. Struck a nerve?

Epic troll ^^.
Anywho, Chiodos is a good band. Craig has a lot of money, if he wants to buy drugs with it and kill himself, leave him alone. He already said he was over it.

[Infamou$17]

As much as Craig's voice makes me want to rip my ears off in disgust, this is still not something to joke about

[Wonthefu]

I bet Nathan Winneke was happy to hear this!

[frusciante_50]

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL

Did you really just reply "EPIC FAIL" to a suicide story? You really are a sorry excuse for a human being. Sorry to hear about this.

[pinkfloydfish]

strat0blaster wrote:

See kids? Playing bad music over a period of years really DOES catch up to you eventually.


In all seriousness - what kind of weak individual do you have to be to try to kill yourself?

Pathetic.

Apparently you've never known anyone who has committed or contemplated suicide. It's usually caused by depression, which is generally a chemical imbalance in the brain. It's usually not a logical thing, it's just impulsive and caused by disturbed emotions, not because the person is weak or stupid. A person can have everything going for them and still feel depressed and suicidal. That's why they put people on medication when they're depressed, because it's a mental disorder, not a defect in personality. So please, grow up. And think before you talk.

[lmweed20]

Chiodosrules_54 wrote:

dude....i like chiodos, but now that craig did this???
idk.

what? are you pro life or something? nob

all the greats kill themselfs

kurt cobain
elliot smith
hunter s thompson!

[somethingcool4u]

poor chiodos

[GuitarSymphony]

I love the people of this world.
Some people assume suicide is for attention.
Some people say "It's more than that!"
Some people associate their music as bad, thus giving less respect to a human.

Bottom line is this: It's just music people. Quit assuming things.

[zosolove]

suicide isnt all for attention. i think this guy had enough already being famous as it is.

[cukd7x-a2-]

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL

dude the frontman in a hardcore band??? seriously, you cant expect a whole lot more than that

[zosolove]

pinkfloydfish wrote:

strat0blaster wrote:

See kids? Playing bad music over a period of years really DOES catch up to you eventually.


In all seriousness - what kind of weak individual do you have to be to try to kill yourself?

Pathetic.

Apparently you've never known anyone who has committed or contemplated suicide. It's usually caused by depression, which is generally a chemical imbalance in the brain. It's usually not a logical thing, it's just impulsive and caused by disturbed emotions, not because the person is weak or stupid. A person can have everything going for them and still feel depressed and suicidal. That's why they put people on medication when they're depressed, because it's a mental disorder, not a defect in personality. So please, grow up. And think before you talk.

thank you so much for saying that.

[columbus]

Chiodos makes good music and Craig has talent. I hope he can work out the issues he has right now and get on the right track. You are in my prayers Craig.

[sxcnxchxcymxcgx]

Well, this guy is a good singer. Even if you don't like the music, you have to admit he's good. And he has some issues, who doesn't? Give the dude a break guys. If you had the same issues, I bet you would consider ending it. He just needs to be prayed for. He's a good guy. Give him some respect.

[Trucont]

http://www.blender.com/articles/default.aspx?key=10125&pg=1

[ltigerman09]

shit duuuude, chiodos was my favorite band a couple years ago.. alls well that ends well is such a good cd but then bone palace ballet came out and it wasnt as good, now this.. chiodos as a whole better get it together

[FaisalKaragoly]

Woah..He really would've been the last of people i would guess attempt this... =/
I really hope he gets through this as I'm a hugeee fan of his, but it really crush my image of him...I, unfortunatly have to say, agree with the person earlier who said he should lose respect for him rather than gain respect for craig... =[

[BradKohl]

Roedy0309 wrote:

MetalHead324 wrote:

wow.... attempted suicide is like the biggest fail you can have lol
ya why dont they just take it like a man and put a gun to the head like cobains did?

first of, what the **** is your issue, and secondly... cobain had more than 3 times the ammount of cocaine in his system to permanently paralyze him, so how could he pull the trigger? ****ing retard

[venomouskiss320]

the only ounce of sympathy for this,is he failed at it,most of my friends would have killed themselves,i really dont like this band

[rebelmidget]

89cruefan wrote:

must have needed attention badly.
1) i didnt even know who he was
2) i didnt even know the band
3) fail

the fact that you don't know the band just means you live under a rock
no matter what his motives there's clearly something wrong witht the guy and even if you don't pity him show some ounce of respect because he's a human being and he could've died

*checked*

[CaptBadass]

I kinda like how ho-hum his blog post was.

"So, I kinda tried to overdose yesterday, but I woke in a hospital. Oh well. My b to those kids over at that one place I was gonna speak at."

[haalternative]

Craig is the most down to earth and nicest guy that I've ever met at a show. I hope he fully recovers and that Chiodos will be back soon.

[danielrobbyshor]

you guys are disgusting, xDeadReckoningx and Chiodosrules_54 you should be permabanned. i seriously cannot believe the lack of humanity i see in these "comments". sickening.

[dieloony2]

Never heard of him or his band. new music typically sucks. But people shouldn't judge him cause he tried to take his life, thats stupid. Guys obviously got problems
saying you don't like his music or think less of him is kind of a weird reaction, i'd think a fan would be worried, not look down on him.

[We'realltoBlame]

Shit. I hope he gets that worked out.
I mean,from listening to the lyrics on most of their songs,I knew he had some major depression issues,but not this bad.

[BeanieM2B]

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL

strat0blaster wrote:
In all seriousness - what kind of weak individual do you have to be to try to kill yourself?

Pathetic.

so one guy loses respect in someone he doesnt know, because he did something stupid which has nothing to do with him

another person states the obvious that this guy is a weak individual who needs help.

yeah maybe he did it for attention but thats why they call it a cry for help; the guy obviously hit a rough patch and didnt know how to get out of it. btw im not biased ive never even heard chiodos (well thats a lie they supported a band i saw a few years back but ive never listened to them on record) anyway the point is it mustve really hit home when he realised he needs to do something about it.

thats my opinion on it anyway

[ICreamsodAI]

Trivium! wrote:

So if a famous musician commits suicide and succeeds they get 20x the fame and no disrespect, but when they fail they have to get made fun of by a bunch of kids who think they know what they're talking about online?

No. It's because 'attempted' suicide is USUALLY bullshit. people are never so nonchalant when talking about trying to kill themselves

if he actually tried to he wouldnt just be like 'o yeah shit happens'

he would have to be super human

[MtLMkR]

eh, i don't see how you can pity him, especially if that's what he was delibrately tryin to get, idk, their guitarist annoys me too, saw them with tallica in tuscon, he'd literally hump his guitar... got annoyin. but owens does have a really powerful voice, could hold the mic two feet away and still you'd hear his voice.

[BeanieM2B]

ICreamsodAI wrote:

'attempted' suicide is USUALLY bullshit

how do you know? have you been inside any suicidal (or fake suicidal as you would call it) person's head and seen exactly what problems theyve got that they dont know how to deal with?

i obviously dont know you so i dont know if youve ever been suicidal, but if you have and you say you were bullshitting for attention the fair enough but you cant speak for other people.

[ArosmthFan]

Chiodos is one of my favorite bands and this seriously upsets me. I don't care if they're an "emo" band or whatever. Craigery Owens is an AMAZING man and I would have been devastated if he succeeded. It doesn't make me lose respect for him at all, it makes me cherish his music and the band that much more because, if he would have succeeded, there wouldn't be any more of that.

[ash_punk_4_life]

well this article has highlighted a lot of dicks at UG! imagine if it was your mate or someone in your family.

[BeanieM2B]

ArosmthFan wrote:

Chiodos is one of my favorite bands and this seriously upsets me. I don't care if they're an "emo" band or whatever. Craigery Owens is an AMAZING man and I would have been devastated if he succeeded. It doesn't make me lose respect for him at all, it makes me cherish his music and the band that much more because, if he would have succeeded, there wouldn't be any more of that.

sorry for the multiple posts but i had to point this out too...

this is a true music fan, being a fan of a band has nothing to do with their personal lives and there are so many people who think they know bands or artists through their music. the important thing to a real music fan is that the guy will hopefully recover enough to continue working and keep the real fans happy

[N031]

Theta wrote:

All of the people who are saying, "oh, hes such an emo" and "how do you mess up killing yourself, EMO!" need to grow up. First of all, he's obviously got some mental issues, hence the checking into a mental facility. Second of all, it was a drug overdose. You can't control whether or not it will kill you.

Now, i'm not defending his actions in anyway. I think suicide isn't the answer to things. But seriously, some ignorant people need to grow up for once.

first off, you need to choose a side. You're saying "i don't condone his attempted suicide" and "he's obviously got some mental issues" and on the other hand "you can't control whether or not you die of a drug overdose" so you're saying he really wasn't trying to commit suicide? You need to commit to an argument. Secondly: what do you expect? he's in a band labeled "emo" and he attempts to kill himself when he belongs to a genre already ridiculed for suicidal fans. no disrespect to anyone but the negative comments pretty much write themselves for this article.

[Jack-black11]

Did anyone bother to think that he's not doing it for attention, but maybe the Zoloft is making him act all apathetic and that's why his little speech lacked emotion? Fuck. If he would've died, there would be no more TSOAF =[ It's like that Cinderella song, "You don't know what you got 'till it's [almost] gone"

[Rokkstar64]

Wow i just was listening to there first cd in my car.
Well i guess he's going to have some great lyrics for there 3rd album.
I hope he gets better.

[Svennz]

ROFL
i cracked up when I read about it...
it's kinda ironic
seeing as some people claims chiodos is emo hahahaha

[DeadXsouls]

RunawayKaren wrote:

DeadXsouls wrote:

RunawayKaren wrote:

sebbsmith wrote:

If its so simple, why don't you do it?What the ****. Was that supposed to be a comeback or some type of attempt at being funny?

Yea. at your bullshit comments.Wow. Struck a nerve?

Only when you talk badly about people who commit and attempt suicide.

That strikes a big nerve,

[roarinflames]

silentdob wrote:

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.


Agreed 100%. The only reason most of these asses are being asses is because his music is considered emo/screamo and he isnt a guitar "legend".

i would probably kill myself too if i saw what the majority of my fans looked like.
no offense or anything

[GeekInThePink]

Good luck Craig! He's such a wonderful vocalist, it would be a shame if we lost him.

[LightxGrenade]

I had recently gotten into Chiodos, even if he didn't mean to really kill himself, when people are in hysterical moments they lose all rationality. I'm sure the reason he said he was fine was because he realized after his suicide attempt that he does indeed want to live. So to tall the people that say "he's weak" or how much of a "loser" he is for trying to kill himself, just remember when people are in hysterical states they do dumb things

[Drewcifer 000]

Poor guy.

[boyan89]

shit man and come on people pay some damn respect.

[fret13]

o no! i almost thought this was a FOB article from all the spam! :P

not a fan of the band...
but i have a feeling that it was for attention but none the less im glad he didnt die.

[trencher]

craig dude, whoever you are, you're going to hell. sweet!

[Matt Chavie]

He's always been the discontent, two faced guy. I think he is severly bi-polar and you can tell, at one of the Chiodos shows I went to he flipped out pretty bad. And I've read articles where he intentionally chips his teeth on his mic, etc. He's self harmed before. It's pretty unfortunate, but I've seen the fame going to his head for a while and I don't think he's prepared for it.

To all the people skeptical about the sincerity, I dont believe a word of what he says, because he really is someone who needs a lot of attention, he wants love, I have been a huge Craig Owens fan for 3+ years, and he has always been like this, say one thing do another, and ask for love/attention.

And to all the fag/gay comments, shut up and pull your head out of your ass.

[Sarahxsickening]

Why is committing suicide the latest trend?

[89cruefan]

reading more its funny everyone going its easy on drugs, yeh its easy if you dont take drugs proply.

the fact that its attempted by drugs is moronic to try throw your life away.

ok so yeh i could understand maybe if he overdosed on his first go or if he was an addict and overdosed, cos atleast that way it wasnt like he was trying to kill himself.

but if he did that, he must have been depressed before that so its his own fault for not admitting himself into a mental place or somewhere where he could get help sooner.

but it happens

[Tedward]

JRazzle wrote:

he didn't mess it up, he didn't want to die, he wanted attention.

the way i see it its because his band isnt carved number one on the emos wrists and he wants them to relate to him.

and anyone who seriously wants to commit suicide doesnt OD on drugs.

[xfadingxstarx]

your all so ****en arrogant
ill bet my life that none of you know Craig Owens personally, none of you knows that goes on in his life... none the less in his head
shut the hell up, let this man be and for the sake of being human and having any emotions at all, just hope that he gets better

Best Wishes Craig

[dvd_dq]

haha maybe he'll wake up out of all these trendy b.s music and learn to play real music

[GR1NG0_SU4V3]

it seems odd that after trying to kill himself he posts about it on his website,
but I don't know all the facts so I can't judge.
Hope he gets well.

[Lambda]

It's his life.

[JondoXxX]

Really now people get depressed and want a way out im not saying suicide is an answer im all for to write love on her arms and everything i mean we dont know whats going on in his life i commend him for going and getting help best thing he coulda done im glad he realized it and drugs are goofy how was he supposed to know it wouldnt work so dont call him a failure

[Acrimony]

Its only pathetic if he did it for attention, or he thought it was going to make him cooler or sell albums. Its hard to believe that someone would do that though. I hope he gets better.

[tanairi]

Most of these comments are really pretty heartless.
Of course, suicide is not a suitable way to deal with anything, logically. But when people are willing to throw their lives out the window, even for a split-second, logic usually has nothing to do with the decision. What his reasons were, none of us knows, so it seems pretty pathetic on anyone's part to even pretend to know what he was thinking (or not thinking) when he took the pills and when he wrote his blog. The thing is, he could've been dead right now. It's pure luck that he's alive, not deliberateness.

[TheEndOfDaze]

there's always the possibility that he suffers from severe depression. Personally, I don't like Chiodos at all, but you can't really judge him for trying since none of us really know WHY he did it yet.

[9badarv]

whoa, that's weird. i just saw them 2 days before at Warped

[Magero]

This is ****ing pathetic. So many younger people look up to Chiodis, and despite whatever personal opinions I may have on the band, to pull this sorta shit and then come out and go "It's ok, I'm fine, sorry for making you people miss a gig, gonna go over here and chill for a while" just makes me loathe him. To attempt suicide is one thing, but to come off quite so casual and nonchalant about the whole thing just annoys me.

[TheEndOfDaze]

slpknt21 wrote:

TheEndOfDaze wrote:

there's always the possibility that he suffers from severe depression. Personally, I don't like Chiodos at all, but you can't really judge him for trying since none of us really know WHY he did it yet.


he probably just got done listening to one of their songs

That's always a possibilty. And he definitely should've waited a little while after his attempted suicide if wanted people to really be worried about him. I mean, posting a blog the day after you do it just makes it seem like a total publicity stunt.

[masterohumans]

it could be a lack of hormones. For those who dont know their are hormones in your brain that make you happy. I dont think it was for publicity since they would just play pop punk if they wanted to be popular.

[pdq13]

Be careful casting stones.I hope none of you ever have to deal with depression regardless of how you feel about this man.

[punkforlife93]

I don't know what to say. I like Chiodos, but that's...unexpected.

[ibanezshred503]

after all the flaming that UG is leaving he will probably read this and attempt it again. lol

[punkrockjoe]

he didn't mess it up, he didn't want to die, he wanted attention

I agree with that, but I don't mean it in a patronising way, anyone who thinks that suicide is not a serious thing is a fool. This is not a publicity stunt, this man needs some support for sure.

*checked*

happy now?

[Sorrows]

good thing i saw him in Minnesota at Power chord Acedemy...he seemed fine though...

[fastflame304]

$H1+. i cannot believe this. he's in mental health now. it's frikin ronnie radke all over (except not as bad... yet)

[leafsfan20]

shit man that sucks he rocks soo good everytime ive seen him he was amazing along with the rest of the band i mean i respect him so much hes like an idol for me so hopefully hell pursue chiodos and the sounds of animals fighting and live a long prosperus life

[tamargoguitar]

that sucks:S....get better man

[murdoc66]

oh my god, that picture is totally inappropriate!

[Ghanja_Fog]

shitty emo band anyways
it figures one of their members if not many of their fans would attempt suicide

[thedarkblues06]

Sucks for him. At least he's checked in somewhere. I wonder how many people got warned/banned for this post because they are idiots....

[Killingthecat69]

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

i disagree, dimebag couldn't keep up with the music scene today. he would've been playing the same old played out guitar riffs and solos over and over much like zack wylde

craig on the other hand, needs help.
stop bashing him for saving himself.
the guy is an amazing vocalist and all it did was put his career on hold for a while.
he'll be back and better than ever.
just watch.

[DeadXsouls]

leafsfan20 wrote:

shit man that sucks he rocks soo good everytime ive seen him he was amazing along with the rest of the band i mean i respect him so much hes like an idol for me so hopefully hell pursue chiodos and the sounds of animals fighting and live a long prosperus life

You do realize he's NOT a member of The Sound of Animals Fighting right?

Craig Owens (known as The Ram in TSOAF) was simply a guest vocalist on Lover, The Lord has Left Us.

TSOAF is coming out with a new album in Sept without Craig.

[KoRnyKenny]

Best of luck to him and the band.

[Mrs. Lovett]

Just because he has a successful band doesn't mean it makes the world around him better. Most of you are pricks. Have a little empathy.

=/

ok I think I'm going to start banning people rather than warning them. It's getting ridiculous now.

[vermilion444]

Roedy0309 wrote:

MetalHead324 wrote:

wow.... attempted suicide is like the biggest fail you can have lol ya why dont they just take it like a man and put a gun to the head like cobains did?

Hmm, is that the same Kurt Cobain that tried to overdose on Rohypnol in Rome but failed? Someone found him before he could die and got him to the hospital. You're a genius. I love Nirvana and Kurt was a huge influence on me, but he hardly took the "manly" way out with suicide, no matter how it was done.

[ChorusPedal88]

Christ an emo, let him get on with it, he's doing it for attention, its even more fail the he sucks at doing it properly, better luck next time.

And the fact he was due to speak to kid, has made me lose alot of respect for this guy, WAKE THE FUCK UP AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE.

[[travis]]

What a dumbass. He's not even famous and he's talking like he's in the #1 band in the world. He's just like Pete Wentz, trying to get all the attention in the world.

[ChorusPedal88]

And the fact he's blogged is even more proof to me, he's doing it for attention.

[Masonpwiley]

I find it weird how he just tried to commit suicide, and now he's like "Last night I tried to overdose. But I woke up in the hospital today and everything's fine. I going to a mental hospital now. See you guys later!"

[esorkered]

wow.... i saw him play two days before his attempt. Never would've guessed he was having problems

[Sean-Man]

i feel sorry for those kids at Power Chord, imagine finding out that the guy who you were supposed to meet just tryed to kill himself. He's not being a very good role model for those kids

[Bailean]

eddyh138 wrote:

well you know he was only doing it for attention because as you can see, in his attempt he FAILED.

any person that actually trying to committ suicide would have either jumped off a building or stuck a knife in their heart or something. anything that was a guaranteed death.

P.S. anyone who's all lk "aww man ur F*ed up! screw you" and try to debate, you can suck one

Your generalizing all suicides to two actions people have committed suicide before by drug overdose. The fact that he even tried is troubling. Even if he was doing it for attention which i doubt the fact that he resorted to suicide is a sign of him being troubled mentally. Best wished to him

[Alpha Guru]

I've heard the band and I'm not a fan of emo music. But no disrespect but suicide is a very selfish act and shows that he wasn't think about the people around him and who care for him and would've helped him if HE JUST ASKED. But no poor confused emo man has to do things his own way.

[hellfire21]

danielrobbyshor wrote:

you guys are disgusting, xDeadReckoningx and Chiodosrules_54 you should be permabanned. i seriously cannot believe the lack of humanity i see in these "comments". sickening.

i agrre w/ u
this man tries 2 take his life, and this is wat everyone has 2 say about
its ppl like u who drive ppl like him 2 the brink and make them wanna die

the world is sick, its infested w/ uncaring, selfish ppl, UNLIKE this man

[Adz2706]

I feel like he doesnt seem to give a crap about what hes done, kinda weird. Ive never actually heard of this guy before but, Dont do it again. Suicide isnt fun.

[shadowsoldier08]

alright, to be honest, if somebody wants to kill themselves, thats their own ****ing decision, and i dont think they should be hospitalized in a nut house just based on a suicide attempt alone. if there is some disease causing these urges, then thats another story. but anyways, he cant even kill himself, that just tells you that he didnt want to commit enough to it

[shinguards13]

"Attempted Suicide" shouldn't be a phrase. There are few exceptions in which someone actually didn't die in hopes to kill themselves i.e. lives through a gunshot to the head by pure chance. Otherwise, if you really feel like ending it all, I'd think that you'd find a sure-fire *no pun intended* way to do so.

For the record, I love chiodos.

[zolafrog]

I knew this guy a few years ago. Played some shows with him in Flint, MI when they were acoustic and called the Chiodos Bros. Although he was a complete jerk to me and my band (who made friends with almost any other band), I am not gonna call him any names like some people here who did NOT know him. Not cool.
It's just sad that anyone would want to do this, unless they had a debilitating condition and knew they would die a tortuous death inevitably. Craig, though, does not, and his "attempt" at suicide is just sad: not in a "I feel sorry for him" way, but in a "what are you thinking? you have good health and an awesome opportunity that life rarely grants" kind of way. If he doesn't want to live his life anymore, then hand it over to someone else who does, because I'm sure there are some takers (minus his voice).

[thereverendsoup]

I don't like this band, but it's always sad when someone honestly thinks committing suicide is preferable to continuing to live. Basically, screw all you internet "badasses" who think you're so cool and so smart because you're talking smack about this guy. You have no place judging his intentions or what led him to attempt suicide, and honestly, you're just *******s for trying.

[Charlie4]

Ok boys, let's make this personal, all you guys who don't know what their talking about - what if it was your best friend or father? Think about that before you say something stupid.

[DeadXsouls]

the capta1n wrote:

BTW I have met Craig, I know him, and I still dont like him. Dont belive me. Here do your homework. Jason Coleman, Davison H.S Class of 1998. My little brother used to hang with him and the band. They were gay then and their gay now. So...your life my good man. Stand and deliver.

Dude, you don't even know what the **** emo is.

Stop acting like you do.

That isn't emo.

Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, those were emo.

Washington D.C., 1988. That was where emo truly was.

Don't believe me? Look the shit up.

[anthony4326]

zolafrog wrote:

I knew this guy a few years ago. Played some shows with him in Flint, MI when they were acoustic and called the Chiodos Bros. Although he was a complete jerk to me and my band (who made friends with almost any other band), I am not gonna call him any names like some people here who did NOT know him. Not cool.
It's just sad that anyone would want to do this, unless they had a debilitating condition and knew they would die a tortuous death inevitably. Craig, though, does not, and his "attempt" at suicide is just sad: not in a "I feel sorry for him" way, but in a "what are you thinking? you have good health and an awesome opportunity that life rarely grants" kind of way. If he doesn't want to live his life anymore, then hand it over to someone else who does, because I'm sure there are some takers (minus his voice).

very well said >_<
anyways....craig attempting suicide? ta pendejo el wey

[trouble37]

True. Kurt did fail the first time.

I love Chiodos. I think he's got a very unique voice and it doesn't sound emo or whiny at all. They have a very creative sound. Hope he recovers.

[thereverendsoup]

DeadXsouls wrote:

Dude, you don't even know what the **** emo is.

Stop acting like you do.

That isn't emo.

Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, those were emo.

Washington D.C., 1988. That was where emo truly was.

Don't believe me? Look the shit up.

No one actually cares here. If they did, they would've figured it out by now.

Not trying to dump on you or anything. But most people here are just terminally clueless about their punk rock history.

By the way, Revolution Summer was '85

[stumaster18]

I can't believe some of you people. Absolutely disgusting. We are all human beings. Who cares if their style of music is different? It doesn't make THEM different. A lot of you need some serious attitude adjustments.

[markojuo]

I think Dave Mustaine covered the suicide issue quite well in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6m3YOAGYRY
Remember, this interview is coming from a guy who did loads of drugs, had a miserable life, but was able to overcome it.
Basically, the overall effect, suicide is the cowards way out. When people cant face the facts, and they cant face their problems, they try idiotic stunts like this.

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

that whole "suicide is for weak cowards" bullshit is sooooo overdone. if you're going to sink low enough to insult somebody in a situation such as this where you have absolutely no experience, at least be creative.

i think suicide is fascinating. it is a purely human action that goes completely against animal instincts. it intrigues me.

i hope he gets the help that he needs, whether it's actual mental help, or simply attention. i look forward to the direction the band will take now.

don't bother replying to my comment in an attempt to enlarge your e-dick, i'm not going to read this again.

[thereverendsoup]

markojuo wrote:

I think Dave Mustaine covered the suicide issue quite well in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6m3YOAGYRY
Remember, this interview is coming from a guy who did loads of drugs, had a miserable life, but was able to overcome it.
Basically, the overall effect, suicide is the cowards way out. When people cant face the facts, and they cant face their problems, they try idiotic stunts like this.

Nevermind the fact that everyone has a different personality and the things that make things better for one person won't necessarily make things better for another. Once again, it's arrogant to assume that people who attempt suicide are "cowards" or that they're doing it for the attention.

The fact is, this guy isn't Dave Mustaine. Dave Mustaine can't speak for him, and neither can you. Craig Owens is a human, and deserves to be treated like one, regardless of the music he plays or what he's done to himself.

Honestly, if this article was about a musician more generally respected around these parts, people would be reacting to it a lot differently.

[!normajean!]

i love Chiodos. Craig has an amazing voice.
i'm stoked he's ok. i would have been really bummed out if he died.

[jamesk8brdrdude]

i hope craig is ok, he is a really nice guy with an amazing voice. i met him this year at warped tour and he was cool as ****.

[terrencemaddox]

markojuo wrote:

I think Dave Mustaine covered the suicide issue quite well in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6m3YOAGYRY
Remember, this interview is coming from a guy who did loads of drugs, had a miserable life, but was able to overcome it.
Basically, the overall effect, suicide is the cowards way out. When people cant face the facts, and they cant face their problems, they try idiotic stunts like this.

Dave Mustaine isn't an authority on anything, regardless of how much he runs his mouth. Seriously, the man can't even make an album without feeling compelled to blame everything he considers a mistake on someone else. So why would we give a damn about his thoughts on something far more serious like suicide? Maybe instead of ranting about these things he can start writing another lesson about how to do that "spider" rhythm guitar trick again.

As for the article all I can say is that I don't know anything about the mans situation, but I wish him the best.

[i_r_guitar]

silentdob wrote:

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.


Agreed 100%. The only reason most of these asses are being asses is because his music is considered emo/screamo and he isnt a guitar "legend".

in reality though his music i think sounds alot better than wailing guitar shredding death

[GotADeathWish?]

poor guy, I hope he gets well soon.
Craig Owens has by far one of the best voices I've ever heard on a male artist.

and all you punk ass kids out there talking about how he sucks at life cus he couldn't even kill himself the right way, and that his music sucks, and that you don't care about him and his band, shut the **** up because obviuosly you cared enough to read about him and talk shit behind your little computers.

I wish him a full recovery, and hopefully he does learn from this tragic experience.

Good luck Craig.

[rhcp33roxx]

i know a bunch of guys that would love to be where he is now...wow.

[mariomaniac642]

This is absolutely no different then Jimi Hendrix or Kurt Cobain. They tried and suceeded at killing themselves, are they emo too?
The only suicide attempts i failed at were me doing whatever to kill me, then thinking "oh **** this" and stopping it.
Suicide is a serious problem, you don't do it for attention. Depression is something to be worried about, not laugh at. No one laughed at Kurt Cobain cuz he actually died, was he seeking attention? Suicide in all forms is still suicide.

[ReiDSaN]

I just can't believe any of this. This is the saddest bunch of replies I've ever seen, a man tries to take his own life and all the majority of you do is make cracks. The fact that moderators have to come and say "have some respect" is really disappointing.

I'm not going to tell you guys about suicide. You know what I'd say and those of you that are being dicks know you're being dicks. Just, damn, internets, can you have some sympathy for one second?

[GotADeathWish?]

Chiodos is ****ing amazing.

[slipsoad928]

thats ****ing sad, i met him a few times, hes a nice guy, seemed happy, i wonder what went wrong

[ticklemeemo]

This is just sick. You people think that just because he got famous in a hardcore band he deserves to die? How can you even justify that? It's disgusting that you have that little respect for human life. Musical taste is not more important than someone's life.

[TeenBite]

ReiDSaN is one of almost two people making sense sadly.

It's not for any of you fourteen year-olds to judge what right anyone has to commit suicide. You haven't lived long enough to have a *clue* about true emotions, so shut up and go back to your Trivium.

[Laces Out Danny]

what's with that picture? I thought it was a drug overdose...?

[John W]

I've never even heard of this band

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[arbocalaviv]

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holy sheetrock

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

DeadXsouls wrote:

IRONMAIDENTLICA wrote:

Better luck on your attempt next time craig...



Seriously who gives a shit.


A lot of people.

Not only people who like Chiodos, but people who are sensitive enough to human life to know that a person needs help. He is getting that help, and hopefully will not try this again.

Personally i feel like life is a great gift u should enjoy it, so when i see stuff like this i have little sympathy, there are so many people in such worse situations who perservere why should i care about some idiot who wants some attention

[viCKY XD]

aawweee i hope Criag get the helps he needs

[Tortiss]

ReiDSaN wrote:

I just can't believe any of this. This is the saddest bunch of replies I've ever seen, a man tries to take his own life and all the majority of you do is make cracks. The fact that moderators have to come and say "have some respect" is really disappointing.

I'm not going to tell you guys about suicide. You know what I'd say and those of you that are being dicks know you're being dicks. Just, damn, internets, can you have some sympathy for one second?

Some people take the internet too seriously. If you give people the internet, a place where you can say whatever you want without consequence, people are going to post whatever will piss people off and they just won because your reacting to some low lives on the interweb, whom are looking for some laughs. It's like giving a bunch of bananas to some monkeys and telling them "You can't eat these". This doesn't just go out to ReiDSaN, it goes out to anyone who is getting overly offended by some text on a screen.

But I hope he gets better soon anyway.

[parkerguitars24]

Huge Chiodos fan, Craig is still great. He didn't want attention, he obviously was mentally impaired. My best friend committed suicide, and this is nothing to be made light of. There's a lot of things you're not getting that could be the source of this problem.

[atkm2891]

yeah....he'd be a great inspiration for all the kids at power chord academy.....

[therealmykeshaw]

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.


you are a very wise man.

but uh... one problem. did dimebag commit suicide? no.
has kerry king attempted suicide? no.
has EVH attempted suicide? no.
has kirk hammet attempted suicide? no.
james hetfield? no.
Dave Mustaine? no.
bruce dickinson? no.
so uh... real ****ing musicians dont attempt suicide
the very few who have died. choked on vomit because they were ****in drunk and retarded.

[birdman267]

Chiodosrules_54 wrote:

dude....i like chiodos, but now that craig did this???
idk.

You're going to stop liking them because of this?
That's stupid.

[dissidENT08]

eddyh138 wrote:

well you know he was only doing it for attention because as you can see, in his attempt he FAILED.

any person that actually trying to committ suicide would have either jumped off a building or stuck a knife in their heart or something. anything that was a guaranteed death.

P.S. anyone who's all lk "aww man ur F*ed up! screw you" and try to debate, you can suck one

eddyh138 wrote:

well you know he was only doing it for attention because as you can see, in his attempt he FAILED.

any person that actually trying to committ suicide would have either jumped off a building or stuck a knife in their heart or something. anything that was a guaranteed death.

P.S. anyone who's all lk "aww man ur F*ed up! screw you" and try to debate, you can suck one

as someone whos actually had a family member attempt suicide through drugs I will go ahead and say FUCK YOU! you have no clue what it is like to wake up and hear that the person you looked up to your whole life tried to kill themself and the HATE and emotions that come with that. depression is not a joke and i will say this right now if you are in san diego i hope i never run across you man you are scum

[SeanHart213]

atkm2891 wrote:

yeah....he'd be a great inspiration for all the kids at power chord academy.....

My exact thoughts.
I love how he got right online the next day to post a little blog about it.

[emolove]

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL


awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

ur completely right...

[lisagabe]

Everyone who is poking fun at this needs to grow up. I don't like his music either but seriously, show some respect. Dave Mustaine has tried to kill him self several times too? does that mean he was doing it for attention. not necessarily.

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[KCsilvertone]

birdman267 wrote:

Chiodosrules_54 wrote:

dude....i like chiodos, but now that craig did this???
idk.


You're going to stop liking them because of this?
That's stupid.

Agreed. I stopped being a fan once their new CD came out (the older was alright) but this isn't a reason to stop liking a band.

People should like (or dislike) music based on how it sounds...not how the members of the band look or act.

And as far as this situation goes...Regardless of whether it was for attention or not (none of us actually know), it's a serious situation.

[KCsilvertone]

(although I stick with the theory that a person who really WANTS to commit suicide can't FAIL at it. If their attempt goes wrong and they wind up in a hospital, they try over and over again until they get it right)

[apc--ibanez]

i like chiodos, hope he recovers, he obviously needs help.

[RGshred88]

i dont like chiodos but seriously people grow up....everything is a joke to everyone...it seems death doesnt phase anyone's mind anymore.

[RunawayKaren]

DeadXsouls wrote:

Only when you talk badly about people who commit and attempt suicide.

That strikes a big nerve,

Thanks for being the only person to respond to me in a civil manner. Now what I said was his post didn't sound like someone who just attempted suicide, just way too laid back. Can you in all seriousness tell me you'd make a public post after something like that?

Whilst I still think the tone sounded too easy going, I will retract my statement about him doing it for attention, cause the blender article somebody linked to earlier changed my mind about it just being a stunt.

And to the guy call me an "Epic-troll". Are you kidding me? there's people in here saying ****ed up things like they wished he died, and the only person you can pick to call a troll is me. OK I may have said chiodos is terrible, but I didn't/wouldn't say he should die. I hope he does get better and continues making music for those that do like it.

[Trucont]

http://www.myspace.com/chiodos

Just a question for somebody who might know, has Craig's picture on there always been red, or just now?

[dissidENT08]

RunawayKaren wrote:

DeadXsouls wrote:

Only when you talk badly about people who commit and attempt suicide.

That strikes a big nerve,Thanks for being the only person to respond to me in a civil manner. Now what I said was his post didn't sound like someone who just attempted suicide, just way too laid back. Can you in all seriousness tell me you'd make a public post after something like that?

Whilst I still think the tone sounded too easy going, I will retract my statement about him doing it for attention, cause the blender article somebody linked to earlier changed my mind about it just being a stunt.

And to the guy call me an "Epic-troll". Are you kidding me? there's people in here saying ****ed up things like they wished he died, and the only person you can pick to call a troll is me. OK I may have said chiodos is terrible, but I didn't/wouldn't say he should die. I hope he does get better and continues making music for those that do like it.

someone attempting suicide obviously has something wrong to throw away everything and they don't really feel like what they did was a big deal, it's a very selfish thing and that's why his post gives you that feel, most people are like that after attempting suicide.

[Trucont]

Since you say the blender article changed your mind, thought I'd post it again, it sorta sheds some light on his mental.... state.

http://www.blender.com/articles/default.aspx?key=1 0125&pg=1

[tmarie]

I hope that none of you ever have to experience the pain of losing a loved one to suicide or having someone you love try to commit suicide. Unfortunately, I have experienced both this year. If you take the time to read Craig's most recent posts, I think its pretty clear that he was in a bad place and now sees the support network he has in his friends and family.

Depression is a horrible illness and if you've ever watched a TV commercial, all of the medications used to treat this illness can result in "thoughts of suicide". It doesn't take much to figure out that it is stressful and mentally exhausting to be in front of the public 24/7.

And on a side note, before you go back to all of your hate filled remarks, he does have a family that sees these things and even if for nothing else, have a heart for what they must be going through.

[ekord123]

sounds like soemone wants attention..

[anarchy_riot09]

see, thats why you dont do drugs, all they do is make you fell all wacked outta your gore for a bit, then ****s you up hardcore and either leads you to life/death experience or gets you addicted and screws you over in more ways than one. poor guy, but he knew better. but i bet this is what it took to wake him and make him realize that [[as korny as it sounds]] drugs are bad haha.

[sneyob]

Man that sucks

I kinda agree with the attention thing,
but I don't judge people

Good luck Chiodos dude!
I don't listen to your music,
but I hope you're actually okay

[terrencemaddox]

therealmykeshaw wrote:

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.


you are a very wise man.


but uh... one problem. did dimebag commit suicide? no.
has kerry king attempted suicide? no.
has EVH attempted suicide? no.
has kirk hammet attempted suicide? no.
james hetfield? no.
Dave Mustaine? no.
bruce dickinson? no.
so uh... real ****ing musicians dont attempt suicide
the very few who have died. choked on vomit because they were ****in drunk and retarded.

I assume this man makes music and that makes him a musician. Tough tits. Oh and EVH's life has been one long and continuous suicide attempt.

[wicked_hobbit]

111 posts removed?
Shame.
111 people being judgmental and act like they know so much about what this guy has been going through

[skyfire322]

lmweed20 wrote:

Chiodosrules_54 wrote:

dude....i like chiodos, but now that craig did this???
idk.

what? are you pro life or something? nob

all the greats kill themselfs

kurt cobain
elliot smith
hunter s thompson!

If this is a comparison to this dude and Kurt Cobain, I will flip.

goneshootin wrote:

i dont give a damn who this is.. attempting suicide is no way to set an example to anyone.. especially kids

And thank you for saying this. The "narrow minded dicks" that are "making light of this situation" really do have hearts. It's just a shame that there's a low bar being set for the young fans (which is about 99.9%).

[death101]

a lot of you guys are acting like jerk saying that he wanted attention ever thing he had mental problem and or the love to do drugs so bad he want to become high enough to catch the dragon

[kdcisgod]

why is everyone arguing so much? just stop.

and i personally like the band and am sad such an incident has occured.

now leave the d00d in peace and stop telling everyone how much of a bitch he is for not finishing the job.

[Darc]

Aw cmon people. Are you serious? Obviously he's going through shit, are you going to lose respect for someone because they don't know what to do? Suicide isn't a way to gain attention, its away to escape from something you don't know any other way out of, irrational, yes, but he was obviously in some situation, depression or whatever it may be. It sickens me to see people's reaction to this.

RE: JRazzle :
his post in a nutshell is pretty much saying "you need to care about me."

How? That's completely incorrect. First off, yes, he needs that at this time. If you were depressed wouldn't you want someone to care about you? I know I would. This wasn't an attention call. There's more behind this than you people are filling your uninformed minds with. Before you make assumptions on someone/something, find out more about it first, rather than a brief article regarding it.

[Darc]

And in regards to the article.

http://www.blender.com/articles/default.aspx?key=10125&p g=0

This is the proper link.

[guitar_maiden]

I'm not much of and Emo music fan...but I do like Chiodos. There's just something about their music that I like. The music is really deep! Just read some of the lyrics. It's sad that Craig would do such a thing.

[bTOMd]

if you guys look at his myspace it has a blog telling how sorry and how he knows how selfish it was. he has been seeing a counselor for a year and had manic depression and bipolar disorder.

[shoka1234]

This just proves why music like this sucks. Because the people who created end up wanting to kill themselves (First Pete Wents and now this loser)

[DCH-guitar noob]

lmao, agreed with silence

byebye ppl

[pinkblackpin14]

i heard the bands name, but nvr heard a song, but i sure hope he gets better, and i don't get y ppl r saying that it was dumb to do such a thing, mayb he was facing some serious problem, and i am sure he does not have mental problems, and ppl who said that he is stupid cuz he failed , well atleast he had the guts do it, lets see you try and take your life!

[what??]

don't like chiodos, but the pics of the guy with a band-aid on his head on the main page and the rope in his mouth here brought a distasteful smile to my face.

[Lauri]

89cruefan wrote:

must have needed attention badly.
1) i didnt even know who he was
2) i didnt even know the band
3) fail

You just said what I was gonna say...except a funny version

[Lauri]

therealmykeshaw wrote:

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.


you are a very wise man.

but uh... one problem. did dimebag commit suicide? no.
has kerry king attempted suicide? no.
has EVH attempted suicide? no.
has kirk hammet attempted suicide? no.
james hetfield? no.
Dave Mustaine? no.
bruce dickinson? no.
so uh... real ****ing musicians dont attempt suicide
the very few who have died. choked on vomit because they were ****in drunk and retarded.

Sorry for double post...but Dave Mustaine did attempt suicide.

[MusicLover#1]

... that honestly sucks.
I cried just then.
I think I take my music a bit to seriously

[rocnroll4evr93]

i really dont like chiodos but its still terrible that he attempted to kill himself.

[Black Hole Sun]

MeGaDeth2314 wrote:

SideshowRaven24 wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL


awww come on now. I'm a huge Chiodos fan, not that makes any difference, but he's clearly troubled. Just leave the man be and hope he gets better. We don't need any more dead rockstars.

He's clearly NOT troubled. Nobody who is mentally disturbed enough to try and kill themselves posts it on their website the next day and says "don't worry about me, i'm fine, i'm checking into a mental hospital and everything will be ok!" They're usually a little too preoccupied being, you know, depressed/insane.

You do realise the difference between depression and schizophrenia right? He's very unhappy, not completely out of touch with reality.

[deafening]

i like how your are all nit picking at this clearly sad event

i dont even like chiodos much anymore, but some1 attempting suicide is a sad ****ing ordeal

[samerika]

suicide sucks, hope he gets better although i don't really give a shit about chiodos.
i really laughed when i read power chord academy xD

[Jonzors]

the human experience is such a wonderful thing why wouldn't you want to live through your own

[Darc]

Patty-cakez wrote:

attention *****. if he's trying to commit suicide then posting his whole damn story in a blog or w/e on his band site, it's a set up! D:

And the retardism grows.

In quote from chiodos "I have given up in the entire human race."

And goddamn, are those words ever so valid. A good 90% of you are just plain ignorant.

EllttEll wrote:

it kinda goes with the music dont ya think, he's a coward and tried to take the cowards way out

Cowards way out? Okay then, you say he's a coward, how? Where does this information come in BEFORE the suicide attempt.

Patty-cakez wrote:

attention *****. if he's trying to commit suicide then posting his whole damn story in a blog or w/e on his band site, it's a set up! D:

I'm sorry...Are you retarded? Really, are you? If you ever come back to this page, please, answer this question.

Jonzors wrote:

the human experience is such a wonderful thing why wouldn't you want to live through your own

The human experience CAN be a wonderful thing. If you've grown up in a bad environment, such has Craig Owens has, it may not be. Once you're introduced to drugs, alcohol, etc. It's not so pleasent after that. Being clinically depressed, and / or other mental disorders. Not so pleasent. With all of that said, it kind of makes one question (if in the position) if you really want to live it. It opens your mind, what are you really living for? What comes next? There are too many beliefs to go saying something like that.

DCH-guitar noob wrote:

heh, i think he did it for attention!

Example three of the utter retardism we are undergoing. So, he's going to overdose with a good risk of dying for attention? What about if he died? Yeah, thats attention starvation right there.

SilenceIsGolden wrote:

How the **** do you fail at suicide?

Get a gun you pussy.

Perhaps you don't realize the amount of failed suicides there are. Secondly, could you bring yourself to end your life conciously? I know I can't. The suicide method of a drug overdose, simply knocks you out, and bam, you're not alive anymore. But obviously it failed. To actually pick up a gun, and put it to your head, and pull the trigger? That's a good deal more difficult to do conciously. So call him a 'pussy' or one of your other tough guy words. The basic concept of ending your own life is to escape from something you can't take, or can't escape in a way visible to you, lack of rationality, etc. Assuming his logic, not wanting to have second thoughts, by using drugs one wouldn't think twice out of utter non-sobriety, meanwhile, using a gun, you'd be able to think to yourself, 'Hey, I don't want to do this.' And hence, not do it.

mariomaniac642 wrote:

This is absolutely no different then Jimi Hendrix or Kurt Cobain. They tried and suceeded at killing themselves, are they emo too?
The only suicide attempts i failed at were me doing whatever to kill me, then thinking "oh **** this" and stopping it.
Suicide is a serious problem, you don't do it for attention. Depression is something to be worried about, not laugh at. No one laughed at Kurt Cobain cuz he actually died, was he seeking attention? Suicide in all forms is still suicide.

You bring up a very, very valid point. And it sort of enlightens me onto a new concept.

If you were just looking for attention, I strongly doubt you'd be able to pull the guts up to try to kill yourself.

On myspace count, at the moment they have 352775 friends. That is an enormous amount of friends. And thats just myspace users, tehre are plenty others who are fans, or those who haven't added them or whatever.

He doesn't need attention. Really.

He intended to end his life and failed, now lets all insult him and say it was for attention?

Why the hell would he even need more attention? Do yourealize how famous the band already is?

[vIsIbleNoIsE]

^christ, go join a debate team or something, this is just a message board.

anyway, if i failed a suicide attempt i would be utterly embarrassed after waking up alive and having to confront people again.

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[SGMAN911]

didnt see that comin ..

[ilovecraig]

Ohkay I made this acount just so I can comment on this cuz one of my friends asked me if it was true so I looked into it for her(I'm a guy)and I had to tell her yes its true she was so upset now I know you could careless about her but I have the most repsect for him he's done wat every single one of you wishes you could go big in a band well he has done it in two bands he's double your sorry @$$es so how can you be so disrespectful even if you hate his type of music christ guys grow up a little!!!!! I went to warped to see him and he convienced me to buy an I heart boobies shirt I love you so much craig I would have met you if my friend didn't have to see coheed and cambria which I could have done both but I didn't want to ohkay well that you for taking the time to read this add me to myspace if you share my veiws
Klay out!!
Now if you wanna talk $h!t about me message my myspace www.myspace.com/blesstheklay
I'm glad your still alive craig get well soon

[t_godin]

what a selfish bastard

[PedophilePriest]

This forum is not being fair to Craig. He's so cool. He's just a confused,
sensitive artist whose talent will stand the test of time. Jesus saved him for us... so we could have more truly emotional songs. It made me cry when I heard he tried to kill himself... it made me want to kill myself.
If he trys again I swear I'll do it too. Thats how much I love him.

[Darc]

vIsIbleNoIsE wrote:

^christ, go join a debate team or something, this is just a message board.

anyway, if i failed a suicide attempt i would be utterly embarrassed after waking up alive and having to confront people again.

I wanted to get a point across.

[Patty-cakez]

Darc wrote:

Patty-cakez wrote:

attention *****. if he's trying to commit suicide then posting his whole damn story in a blog or w/e on his band site, it's a set up! D:


And the retardism grows.

In quote from chiodos "I have given up in the entire human race."

And goddamn, are those words ever so valid. A good 90% of you are just plain ignorant.
EllttEll wrote:

it kinda goes with the music dont ya think, he's a coward and tried to take the cowards way out


Cowards way out? Okay then, you say he's a coward, how? Where does this information come in BEFORE the suicide attempt.

Patty-cakez wrote:

attention *****. if he's trying to commit suicide then posting his whole damn story in a blog or w/e on his band site, it's a set up! D:


I'm sorry...Are you retarded? Really, are you? If you ever come back to this page, please, answer this question.

Jonzors wrote:

the human experience is such a wonderful thing why wouldn't you want to live through your own


The human experience CAN be a wonderful thing. If you've grown up in a bad environment, such has Craig Owens has, it may not be. Once you're introduced to drugs, alcohol, etc. It's not so pleasent after that. Being clinically depressed, and / or other mental disorders. Not so pleasent. With all of that said, it kind of makes one question (if in the position) if you really want to live it. It opens your mind, what are you really living for? What comes next? There are too many beliefs to go saying something like that.



DCH-guitar noob wrote:

heh, i think he did it for attention!


Example three of the utter retardism we are undergoing. So, he's going to overdose with a good risk of dying for attention? What about if he died? Yeah, thats attention starvation right there. SilenceIsGolden wrote:

How the **** do you fail at suicide?

Get a gun you pussy.


Perhaps you don't realize the amount of failed suicides there are. Secondly, could you bring yourself to end your life conciously? I know I can't. The suicide method of a drug overdose, simply knocks you out, and bam, you're not alive anymore. But obviously it failed. To actually pick up a gun, and put it to your head, and pull the trigger? That's a good deal more difficult to do conciously. So call him a 'pussy' or one of your other tough guy words. The basic concept of ending your own life is to escape from something you can't take, or can't escape in a way visible to you, lack of rationality, etc. Assuming his logic, not wanting to have second thoughts, by using drugs one wouldn't think twice out of utter non-sobriety, meanwhile, using a gun, you'd be able to think to yourself, 'Hey, I don't want to do this.' And hence, not do it.

mariomaniac642 wrote:

This is absolutely no different then Jimi Hendrix or Kurt Cobain. They tried and suceeded at killing themselves, are they emo too?
The only suicide attempts i failed at were me doing whatever to kill me, then thinking "oh **** this" and stopping it.
Suicide is a serious problem, you don't do it for attention. Depression is something to be worried about, not laugh at. No one laughed at Kurt Cobain cuz he actually died, was he seeking attention? Suicide in all forms is still suicide.


You bring up a very, very valid point. And it sort of enlightens me onto a new concept.

If you were just looking for attention, I strongly doubt you'd be able to pull the guts up to try to kill yourself.

On myspace count, at the moment they have 352775 friends. That is an enormous amount of friends. And thats just myspace users, tehre are plenty others who are fans, or those who haven't added them or whatever.

He doesn't need attention. Really.

He intended to end his life and failed, now lets all insult him and say it was for attention?

Why the hell would he even need more attention? Do yourealize how famous the band already is?

What point are you trying to make? And no, I'm not retarded. My brain functions correctly and fully to every extent of the minutes I spend alive on this earth, which so far are too much to attempt to kill myself, contradictory to what this "Craig" guy tried to do. But please, if YOU ever come back to this page, please answer my question.

[*maria*]

so he tried to commit suicide

obviously there are some things bothering him

i think its better that hes out in the open about this. after acceptance is a step towards recovery. would we rather he be in denial?

i think not!!

some of you should grow up and be a little more mature
this is reality
it happens multiple times a day
and it takes a strong person to admit what hes done and seek help.

dont judge him. after all this thats not what he needs. he needs support.

ALSO its not our place to judge.

lets just be glad he didnt suceed.

we dont want to be without another great artist. it happens way too often. so be thankful hes still around to put out great music.

for the record: im not saying i condone suicide (its not the way) but hopefully ppl will learn from it

[barnickd]

Lol. The lead singer sure didn't give life any repect when he attempted suicide. I don't care what the reason is. Trying to through away essentially the best and only gift humans have is the worst ****ing disgrace anyone can through upon themselves, and by what he put in his blog it seems he is just like whatever. Fuck that guy and all i can say is better luck nextime. And society filled with people like you treating this situation as delicately as possible and advocating pampering the victim is the reason this bullshit will probably happen again, or why thousands of people have to die before we finally say this is enough and we do something about it. Sometimes situations cannot be handled delicately.

[Darc]

What point are you trying to make? And no, I'm not retarded. My brain functions correctly and fully to every extent of the minutes I spend alive on this earth, which so far are too much to attempt to kill myself, contradictory to what this "Craig" guy tried to do. But please, if YOU ever come back to this page, please answer my question.

The point I am trying to make, is that you people are so quick to judge someone for a situation you aren't in, you feel (assuming), that his situation is equivilent to yours, and that he shouldn't have to try to end his life. Which is wrong, his situation is difficult, I admit, I don't know how he feels, nor do you. But if you read the Blender Article (mentioned several times) you'll see his life wasn't a nice one. I understand we all face hardships in life, some more than others, he got involved in drug use and alcoholism, which I know is no excuse to kill himself, but his depression brought him to there.

I suppose a shortened version, my point is, basically a worthless attempt at trying to show you that you shouldn't judge before you actually know what's going on. I realize, most of my words will go unread, and will have been written for nothing, but it gives me closure knowing that I tried.

Now, may I ask, why do you think it's a setup? What gives you this thought? In regards to the statement; "He doesn't need attention." What brings you to this conclusion?

[Tnl11237]

At least he's alive and will be back soon. but i have to say w/ all due respect to craig. That was kinda a dumbass move dude.

[guitar_hero543]

its funny how the title says that he attempted suicide and it looks like he has a band-ade on his head...like he's all bruised from his suicide attempt...just a funny little detail i thought i'd point out. as for the story, oh yes, very sad.

[Tnl11237]

And *maria*, THANK YOU. I totally agree with you and Darc.

[Darc]

Also, Patty-cakez, I apologize for calling you retarded, as I wrote that, I was somewhat aggrivated. Also, I didn't intend to use your quote twice. I could have sword I deleted the first one.

[druz15_UG]

not s very appropriate picture considering the circumstances, a guy tries to kill himself and you post up a picture of him with a rope underwater?

[Darc]

druz15_UG wrote:

not s very appropriate picture considering the circumstances, a guy tries to kill himself and you post up a picture of him with a rope underwater?

I agree, this isn't exactly the choice picture for said situation. But this is the 'news', and if you watch News channels on the television, you'll notice they'll have a picture relevant to the issue, mostly.

[dann_blood]

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?

EPIC FAIL

Do you know him personally? Do you know about his personal life? Do you know his mental state.
It's shit like this that doesn't help someone's recovery. Grow up, you don't know anything about the way the human mind works, if you lose respect for somebody because they have something wrong with them then you need to get an ounce of common sense and realise people are different to you.

[guitar_hero543]

I like the one on the UG front page with that thing that looks like a band-ade..as you'll be able to tell from my recent post.

[huevos]

brokenairguitar wrote:

You guys are horrible. I don't know the frontman or the band at all, but you guys are the worst kind of ugly. How dare you make light of something like this. Even if it is for attention, you have no way to discern that from the post. His situation should be treated as delicately as if he actually committed suicide. Society filled with people like you all is the reason we live in such a hate-filled world. Grow up and give life some respect.

The internet is serious business!!!
Watch out bro.

We all got die sometime red.

This could have been for attention, or maybe not. Doesn't matter. Dude failed and he's alive. Go on with your lives, he's gunna get the help he needs.

Depression is rising due to mass information and our every comfort and whim being given to us. The will to live out what we truely want is due to an over-catering society. That's why people go to drugs (if you do drugs for emotional comfort, you are ****ed) and have all sorts of destructive vices.
Not saying all drugs are bad, just that if they aren't used for spirtual enlightenment or recreation (used more as a crutch), then it becomes highly destructive, as Craig and countless others have demostrated.

As for Chiodos, they're alright. Nothing special, just middle of the road stuff.

punk_mike_88 wrote:

I kinda had a feeling this would occur after reading that interview he did with Blender. He said he use to date a girl and when they hung out, they'd cut themselves. I'm not even joking, google it or something.

Hmm, that's not too surprising. That's a red flag right there. Cutting and other self-mutilation techniques become more amplified over time and become even more destructive.

Idk what point I'm trying to get across. It just shows the state of mental being a good percentage of people across the world are living in/with.
And if you wanna **** around and joke about it, cool. You aren't useful as human beings.
Your entitled to your own opinion, but so am I.

[guitar_hero543]

Well, don't know the guy, don't have sympathy for people who commit suicide because if they were smart they wouldn't have gotten into stupid situations in the first place and if they do it out of misery they're REALLY stupid cause its better to endure a little bit of suffering than to kill yourself and burn in hell for eternity so...no sympathy. nothing. at all.

[schizz]

mobious128 wrote:

Shayne777 wrote:

who's chidios?

Don't look them up, it's like an audio goatse.

How much win do you have to consume in a day to acquire this kind of greatness?

[Darc]

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Well, don't know the guy, don't have sympathy for people who commit suicide because if they were smart they wouldn't have gotten into stupid situations in the first place and if they do it out of misery they're REALLY stupid cause its better to endure a little bit of suffering than to kill yourself and burn in hell for eternity so...no sympathy. nothing. at all.

There's a background behind this. He didn't just attempt suicide because of drugs and alcohol. Google the blender article, read it. There are somethings in there. Other factors could be disorders, Bipolar as stated somewhere in here, plausibly clinical depression. But really, there is never a good reason to attempt suicide. But there are reasons. As I have stated and emphasized in earier posts.

[Darc]

bls_1919mafia wrote:

well to bad he didnt succeed because he is one of many people ruining music these days.

Aw, I'm so happy for you, you typed exactly the same thing as about fifty people before you. Do you want a cookie?

[Patty-cakez]

I'm also not a big fan of Chiodos... but nonetheless, nothing attracts me more than some sad musician suicide attempt story lol

[dann_blood]

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Well, don't know the guy, don't have sympathy for people who commit suicide because if they were smart they wouldn't have gotten into stupid situations in the first place and if they do it out of misery they're REALLY stupid cause its better to endure a little bit of suffering than to kill yourself and burn in hell for eternity so...no sympathy. nothing. at all.

Because nothing bad ever happens in the world /sarcasm.

[guitar_hero543]

Darc wrote:

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Well, don't know the guy, don't have sympathy for people who commit suicide because if they were smart they wouldn't have gotten into stupid situations in the first place and if they do it out of misery they're REALLY stupid cause its better to endure a little bit of suffering than to kill yourself and burn in hell for eternity so...no sympathy. nothing. at all.

There's a background behind this. He didn't just attempt suicide because of drugs and alcohol. Google the blender article, read it. There are somethings in there. Other factors could be disorders, Bipolar as stated somewhere in here, plausibly clinical depression. But really, there is never a good reason to attempt suicide. But there are reasons. As I have stated and emphasized in earier posts.

well of course committing suicide when you're mental and your brain isn't functioning is something to sympathize for because then that person had one mental breakdown which ended his/her life. but thats IF there's a natural mental problem which can't be controlled.

Darc wrote:

bls_1919mafia wrote:

well to bad he didnt succeed because he is one of many people ruining music these days.

Aw, I'm so happy for you, you typed exactly the same thing as about fifty people before you. Do you want a cookie?

HAHAHAHAHAhahaha!

[whitebluesboy]

punk_mike_88 wrote:

I kinda had a feeling this would occur after reading that interview he did with Blender. He said he use to date a girl and when they hung out, they'd cut themselves. I'm not even joking, google it or something.

That article was quite concerning.

[Darc]

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Darc wrote:

guitar_hero543 wrote:

Well, don't know the guy, don't have sympathy for people who commit suicide because if they were smart they wouldn't have gotten into stupid situations in the first place and if they do it out of misery they're REALLY stupid cause its better to endure a little bit of suffering than to kill yourself and burn in hell for eternity so...no sympathy. nothing. at all.

There's a background behind this. He didn't just attempt suicide because of drugs and alcohol. Google the blender article, read it. There are somethings in there. Other factors could be disorders, Bipolar as stated somewhere in here, plausibly clinical depression. But really, there is never a good reason to attempt suicide. But there are reasons. As I have stated and emphasized in earier posts.


well of course committing suicide when you're mental and your brain isn't functioning is something to sympathize for because then that person had one mental breakdown which ended his/her life. but thats IF there's a natural mental problem which can't be controlled.

Exactly. He had those disorders though. Why I listed those specifically.

[bassplayer496]

300th comment. WHOOT.
I agree it sounded pretty damn fake. I guess it's sad, but he does seem to be striving for attention.
But I don't like the band anyway. I love the music but hate his voice.

[Darc]

bassplayer496 wrote:

300th comment. WHOOT.
I agree it sounded pretty damn fake. I guess it's sad, but he does seem to be striving for attention.
But I don't like the band anyway. I love the music but hate his voice.

Opinion respected, I just disagree. With...the whole thing. Cept the sad part, it is rather upsetting isn't it.

But, dare I say it again, read the Blender article about Craig, I think it may change your mind.

[sam1618]

None of you know what was going on with him, so its kind of ****ing pathetic you seem to think you are capable of accurately judging the situation. Of course he posted something the next day. When you're in a huge band, you have a manager with press response skills and things like that, you have to make statements even when you don't want to. Not that any of us would even remotely understand the kind of stress, responsibility, and committment required to be at that level of exposure.

A lot of you don't like Chiodos. Their lead singer has some issues. Big deal, grow the **** up. You don't have to respect someone for their band or musical accomplishments, but you should have the common decency not to be a c*** about situations like this. If this weren't true, that all humans deserved respect and even compassion, then 69% of us would be shit outta luck.

[GNR'n'A7X]

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

Very true... but Dime loved life and was a fu*kin' hero; that's what we all respect him for. This douche isn't. And it's not just that his band holds no comparison to Pantera either, if you attempt suicide what you're really doing is wanting attention and to **** up your friends, family, and band even. He can burn in Hell, it's just selfishness at it's finest.

-DDP

[Darc]

GNR'n'A7X wrote:

mrfinkle213 wrote:

I mean, think about it, if Dimebag had tried this, the entire website woulda been in tears over it.

Very true... but Dime loved life and was a fu*kin' hero; that's what we all respect him for. This douche isn't. And it's not just that his band holds no comparison to Pantera either, if you attempt suicide what you're really doing is wanting attention and to **** up your friends, family, and band even. He can burn in Hell, it's just selfishness at it's finest.

-DDP

Negative.

I'm not repeating my unecessarily long posts, so my response is above you somewhere.

[hectors92]

hm its funny how u-g edited craig's statement to miss out the fact that hes bipolar, suffered from depression etc "I have been battling with manic depression, bipolar disorder, and constant anxiety attacks for years. This disease has caused me to hide in my bedroom for weeks at a time, push away the most important people in my life, and learn to hate myself even. I have tried to remain strong through the years, fighting off urges and using the undying support of my fans, friends, family, and loved ones to turn my depression into an art- a music to share with the world. I also have been speaking with a therapist for around a year now, maybe more. This has helped me to come in touch with who I am as a human being and why I do the things that I do. "

[ZeroYuy]

Gotta give the man credit. He might have tried and failed, but how many troubled artist just keep on going with it?

He was man about it and told everyone, so I have a new found respect for him for coming out and saying and getting help of his own free will.

Besides, it's not like he's using it as a cover for his problems and saying 'it's his way to escape them'.

Give the man some credit!

[FuZzY(aus)]

FuZzY(aus) wrote:

xDeadReckoningx wrote:

Wow...I had an ounce of respect for Craig. That's gone now. Chiodos is amazing but...seriously Craig?


EPIC FAIL

just cause he tried to commit suicide is no reason to disrespect him
sorry about the early post i screwed it up

[jefffelker40]

you guys saying the guy just wanted attention are right, so what? give him a break, it's a horrible thing to want to die, and a really horrible thing when somebody actually kills themselves, it's a shame that people feel so insecure about themselves they tear people apart for attempting suicide.

[TC1223]

people need to have some sympathy around here. None of you probably realize what sort of mind state this guy may have been in. Any Nirvana fans here?

[jv_music]

I'll never understand these guys. My POV says "why?" because they have so much and why would they give it up, but then their POV is always different. I think a lot of these guys killing themselves just need some help to realize that this world sucks for everyone. You just gotta make the best of it and look for a better day.

[rejected1]

Sounded real EMO. haha...

[Skathe_665]

Wow, what a downer. I mean, this guy has it so bad. His band is widely known. He makes a living doing what he loves. Touring and getting paid to do it. Such a good reason to kill himself.

[thriller[h4h]]

brokenairguitar wrote:

Society filled with people like you all is the reason we live in such a hate-filled world. Grow up and give life some respect.

It's more so people that hate on other people for making jokes about something like this. Take life into your own hands, if you find something, it's funny. Regardless of who thinks you are a prick.

I've seen Chiodos live. That's how much I like the band. I actually took the time to see them play a show live. Craig Owens vocals are, well, they're damn amazing. BUT, he still has an epic fail.

[prophetsfan]

seriously, how hard can it be to fail a drug OD suicide attempt. if you wanna die that much then you'd blow all your money on the drugs to make sure.
i dont think he wanted to succeed, he didnt want to die but i dunno why he did do it.

[azwad]

Come on! rock n roll doesn't need this! Just play good music dude!

[B_Rad777]

It's so easy to look down upon someone and call them weak or pathetic for doing something like this when you don't know what they were going through. Maybe it was just for attention, that doesn't make him a coward. Talking shit about stuff like this just makes it worse

[tmarie]

what?? wrote:

don't like chiodos, but the pics of the guy with a band-aid on his head on the main page and the rope in his mouth here brought a distasteful smile to my face.

Note on the band-aid - he hit his head on the drum set while performing the day before a photo shoot.

*wipes brow*

Checked.

Look at the number of comments posted, and look at the number removed before you post. Think about whether or not what you're gonna say REALLY needs to be said.

[Metallicaloveu]

89cruefan wrote:

must have needed attention badly.
1) i didnt even know who he was
2) i didnt even know the band

likewise
3) fail

[palefire]

To anyone on here questioning whether they like him or not because he tried to kill himself;

I'm pretty sure he's got bigger things on his mind than whether a handful of computer/music geeks on a website like him or not. There's a big hint: he tried to commit suicide.

Get over yourself.

[paddypadman]

Pretty sad really, its bad if someone chooses that decision..

[cloud041089]

palefire wrote:
I'm pretty sure he's got bigger things on his mind than whether a handful of computer/music geeks on a website like him or not. There's a big hint: he tried to commit suicide.

actually i read that he had trouble handling criticism towards his band, and he's a really sensitive guy. so i think it would suck if he came across these comments.

[killafromthecol]

i don't know this guy or his band,i joined this site for the purpose of commenting this,i visit it alot but never had reason to join. it is OBVIOUS that he wanted attention,he made it sound as if he expected to live and,like stated before,he posted something on his site the day after...

"wish me luck" and all that other bs? "i hope i learn from this"??? he sounds like he's trying to be like a real rock member except he's actually TRYING to make all of this known, i bet nobody would've even known he had "attempted suicide" if he hadn't of posted it on his site.

people like this are bad influences and dumbasses. and to the people who are talking about Nirvana,kurt had REAL problems,he was very depressed and i'm surprised he didn't die from an OD,he was a real musician and never even wanted the attention he was getting.

my last point:apparently this guy DID need attention, it doesn't matter how many myspace friends you have or wtf ever, probably a litle less than half the people who posted on here do not know these guys and even if they did, you can always find a way to get more attention, right?? i'm not saying i like/dislike this guy based on this, but he does seem like a major ass and i have no respect for him...

[JordantheAxe]

He didn't do it for attention
/discussion

[axeslash]

I think a lot of you are reading into this too much.

There's no good way to talk about your attempted suicide. Nobody makes a lot of sense after they tried to kill themselves and after they OD'd.

[AerialOverdrive]

THis is pretty sad (like real sad, not like pathetic)
And i was supposed to see them with my gf in Altamont on the Sunday...Damn

[ledzep618]

What a jackass. I'm sick of emo punks trying to off themselves to get in the spotlight

[tj-666]

Theres An Old Chinese Proverb...

If You Can't Kill Yourself, What Can Ya Do?

Epic Fail!

[bada-bing]

is everyone quite finshed???? Dear me, an article posted and so many points of view. Chiodos are a good band, i dont care what genre you want to put them under or what 'human being' you think their frontman is, the guy has some issues. In my opinion i really want Craig to get better, there have been a few childish posts and a fair few relevant ones but the fact is if your dissing this man or this band, why spend so long on this page looking for the 'shock factor'??

[crackshirt321]

ok first, i dont think this is true (sorry ultimate guitar wherever you heard of it) because why would you want to brag about trying to kill yourself?? thats just being a big attention *****. and the last thing that craig likes, is attention. thats why alot of people hate him. they think he's mean and likes to hide out from the press. he doesnt, he just hates a**holes.
(i hope im right)

[masumane]

My comment was deleted it looks like.

Summary of comment: If you're going to cry like a little bitch about someone trying to kill themself, just shut the **** up.

[Darc]

rejected1 wrote:

Sounded real EMO. haha...

Oh god, take an IQ test. Please.

[Darc]

crackshirt321 wrote:

ok first, i dont think this is true (sorry ultimate guitar wherever you heard of it) because why would you want to brag about trying to kill yourself?? thats just being a big attention *****. and the last thing that craig likes, is attention. thats why alot of people hate him. they think he's mean and likes to hide out from the press. he doesnt, he just hates a**holes.
(i hope im right)

Okay, I dislike and like your post.

One; YOu don't think its true because you think he's bragging about attempting suicide for attention.

That's stupid, if you'd actually read half of these posts (The none ridiculous ones) and / or the Blender Article about him / chiodos, you'll learn that he has several mental disorders, bipolar, depression, as stated only a few posts above you. He didn't attempt it for attention, he did it out of depression, out of an attempt to escape it.

You're right, he doesn't need attention. He's in a rather large band why would he, he has enough of it.

So in sense, you're half right.


And on a side note, Ultimate-guitar got this from Craigs post on his own site.

[TripleSixMetal]

im guessing you dont remember what Kurt did did you?
no, he was depressed alright if hes tryin to get attention he wont get help and hed do it all over again but he is so hes doin the right thing[/quote]

Kurt didnt kill himself.... That bitch Courtney love killed him...

[pinkblackpin14]

he did'nt do it for attention, i don't think that dude is stupid enough to risk his life to get your pity, or w/e they said he just had a lot of pressure! because people wanted more from him!

[pinkblackpin14]

and he's not emo! i don't think the band is either, please don't be a stereotype idiot, thinking you know everything!

[boXcaR 244]

Craig recently updated his blog:

So, it’s no secret that I have recently went through one of the hardest times in my life. On Sunday, July 20th, I attempted to overdose on prescribed Xanax at my home here in Michigan. Flash ahead 12 hours later, I woke up in the emergency room surrounded by my family and best friends, with an IV in my left arm, and hooked up to machines. I felt confused, angry, selfish, and completely embarrassed. After being admitted to the hospital for a couple of days, I made my way to recovery and built up enough strength and courage with the support of my loved ones enough to make it back home.

I am okay, though. Thankfully, I had no permanent physical damage to myself from this.
This isn’t something that I went through by myself. I am, by no means, alone in this. My family and close friends have been by my side each minute since the incident and, you, my fans, have been right there with me too.


I have received an incredible amount of MySpace messages, comments, emails, instant messages, text messages and voice mails supporting me through this time in my life. So many people loved me more than I ever thought and the amount of happiness that this brings to me is more than I ever could describe.


You have all shown me a new, blinding light within myself and from that ray you seem to shine on me with every one of your beautiful comments (and I read every single one of them), not to mention your undeniable support. Thanks to you, I’ve already began to return to my “normal” self- a person that I had forgotten all about.


Why did this happen?


I have been battling with manic depression, bipolar disorder, and constant anxiety attacks for years. This disease has caused me to hide in my bedroom for weeks at a time, push away the most important people in my life, and learn to hate myself even. I have tried to remain strong through the years, fighting off urges and using the undying support of my fans, friends, family, and loved ones to turn my depression into an art- a music to share with the world.


I also have been speaking with a therapist for around a year now, maybe more. This has helped me to come in touch with who I am as a human being and why I do the things that I do. Rationalizing my imperfections and trying to wear them as if they were badges of honor is something that I had learned to pride myself off of- until this incredibly selfish and stupid act I pulled.


What’s next?


I’m looking towards the future and have been blinded by the brightness of it. After taking care of myself over the past few days, and talking through this situation with my family, friends, and managers, I am committed to creating only positive actions out of the deepest and darkest low I have found myself in with this. I will not be canceling any upcoming shows, with the exception of this Sunday’s show (7/27) in Albany, NY with P.O.D and Everclear. My solo show this Saturday (7/26), WILL STILL BE HAPPENING, and will be an emotional and therapeutic experience, to say the least. With it being in Detroit, and being able to perform softly, with spoken-words, and seeing all of the people that have been by my side though this entire thing, I hope to find a new bliss within this rut I have found myself in.


I cannot wait enough to get back out onto the road with Chiodos for our just-announced headlining tour this August to October. Being in front of all of you gives me such strength and if I hadn’t been home so much for the past few months, thinking too much and allowing darkness to overcome me, who knows if this would have even had happened.


I have a long road ahead of me, no doubt, but I feel that this experience has, oddly enough, given me new strength to take control of my situation and it has shown my loved ones (and myself) the seriousness of what I’ve been struggling with too.


I will not stop playing music, writing, or opening myself up to the people that matter most to me. All we have is one another and this entire situation is nothing but a GIANT reminder that we ALL need to stay strong and hold one another up during even the hardest of times.
I love you- Craig.

[zachrudicel93]

its pathetic all you ppl are downgrading him about this...he evidently is having a hard time and you self-centered jerks dont even care..if your just gonna talk smack about him dont tlk at all..hes all about his fans and its sad you ppl dont even care...and the pic of him underwater with a rope didnt help.

[miketheman401]

will everyone please save the suicide jokes for when courtney love tries it

[lethaldosage45]

I liked this band up until now... he is a true EMO!

[deadlyMETAL]

It's sad that people get so pressured they don't find any salvation for themselves besides drugs, drinking, and/or suicide.... But things happen, and those who seek help are the ones who've overcome it.

Hope he gets himself fixed up; any suicide or suicide attempt is a sad matter and shouldn't be laughed about. That's my take, anyway.

[Darc]

lethaldosage45 wrote:

I liked this band up until now... he is a true EMO!

Well aren't you an intelligent one.

[Mauro_0990]

however, don’t worry about me, i’m fine. i am being checked into a mental clinic beginning tomorrow at 8 am.

he is screaming for atencion

[XenititesX]

the thing is, suicide rly is stupid. everything can be worked out. it isnt like things could really get THAT bad. once again, everything can be worked out. but i do agree about the attention thing.

[proguit933]

he has mental problems guys. i read an article about chiodos about a year back and it stated that in the article so its not out of the blue or a cry for attention. human life is valueable, even though i think he is the worst part of chiodos he still should get help. all the best to him

[Darc]

XenititesX wrote:

the thing is, suicide rly is stupid. everything can be worked out. it isnt like things could really get THAT bad. once again, everything can be worked out. but i do agree about the attention thing.

Suicide is stupid. I agree, but I disagree with 'everything can be worked out.'

He has several mental disorders, including depression, and bipolar disorder. Also alcoholism, and drug use is a big part of this.

I'm not saying he made a good choice turning to drugs and alcohol to help himself, but he is not crying for attention. You people aren't realizing it. Why in the ****ing world would he need attention? There are SO many fans of Chiodos, he has all the attention he'd ever want.

Mental disorders, they can't get worked out, they're disorders, diseases if you will.

[justiferatu]

maybe he couldnt handle how chiodos ripped off the residents?

[Trucont]

XenititesX wrote:

the thing is, suicide rly is stupid. everything can be worked out. it isnt like things could really get THAT bad. once again, everything can be worked out. but i do agree about the attention thing.

If you think that, obviously you've never been in that type of situation. (By the way... Lrn2grmmer/spl... rly. That goes to half the people on here)

To everyone. Stop posting, there's not really a point anymore, especially if you aren't a fan of the band and you're just coming here talk about how stupid he or his band are. It's no longer on the front page, so you it's pretty clear that you're going out of your way to come here... And that's pretty stupid to tell the truth. There's no point in that.

Anyways...:

http://www.blender.com/articles/defa ult.aspx?key=10125&p%20g=0

http://blog.myspace.com/index. cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=9630420&blogID=417856083

[Trucont]

Somehow I screwed up the blender URL... again

http://www.blender.com/articles/default.aspx?key=10 125&p%20g=0

[DeadXsouls]

thereverendsoup wrote:

DeadXsouls wrote:

Dude, you don't even know what the **** emo is.

Stop acting like you do.

That isn't emo.

Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, those were emo.

Washington D.C., 1988. That was where emo truly was.

Don't believe me? Look the shit up.

No one actually cares here. If they did, they would've figured it out by now.

Not trying to dump on you or anything. But most people here are just terminally clueless about their punk rock history.

By the way, Revolution Summer was '85

hahah. Yea. That's the ****ed up part. If a few of the idiots here took the time to look up emo, they'd see that Chiodos is not a part of it. (I love Chiodos by the way, if you couldn't tell by my previous posts. xD)

And thanks for the correction. I haven't looked up stuff about it in awhile, and was going off my memory. hah

[themexicanninja]

zachrudicel93 wrote:

its pathetic all you ppl are downgrading him about this...he evidently is having a hard time and you self-centered jerks dont even care..if your just gonna talk smack about him dont tlk at all..hes all about his fans and its sad you ppl dont even care...and the pic of him underwater with a rope didnt help.

don't call people who deal with everyday problems in a rational and sensible way "self-centered". suicide is one of the most selfish acts an individual can do.

but still, stop calling suicide emo. "emo" is a term used by nihilistic high schoolers who think that the ****ing world revolves around them. lets be a little more realistic.

[sam1618]

Its good that most of us here are semi confused as to why someone would want to kill themselves. Please take into consideration that being in a famous band doesn't make you any less depressed, or less self conscious or lessen your anxiety. If anything, a brand new set of faces every night, being far away from your friends and family night after night probably hightens those feelings.
If someone was as self obsessed and image based as half of you would like to believe, I'm pretty sure it would not be a problem for Chiodos management team to cover it up, and none of us would have even heard of it.
How is it that we're giving Craig s*** for messing up, while he still puts on amazing shows (obviously you'd not think so if you don't like the band), and let other guys like Conor Oburst (bright eyes frontman) off, when he comes completely drunk on stage to the point that he can't even perform well? To me, someone who does what he or she loves, and does it well, is a LOT better, and respectable, than someone who isn't dedicated to it. Would you go to a show if you knew the singer or guitarist was gonna be wasted, and sing or play like s***?
No, you wouldn't, cuz that'd be a s***ty show!
So again, I ask, why are we whining cuz someone has some problems that most of us in all actuallity, do not directly understand, and do not actually affect us, but we are perfectly ok with musicians who have made it, and just dick around with what they've been given, and screw their fans over?

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

DeadXsouls wrote:

thereverendsoup wrote:

DeadXsouls wrote:

Dude, you don't even know what the **** emo is.

Stop acting like you do.

That isn't emo.

Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, those were emo.

Washington D.C., 1988. That was where emo truly was.

Don't believe me? Look the shit up.

No one actually cares here. If they did, they would've figured it out by now.

Not trying to dump on you or anything. But most people here are just terminally clueless about their punk rock history.

By the way, Revolution Summer was '85


hahah. Yea. That's the ****ed up part. If a few of the idiots here took the time to look up emo, they'd see that Chiodos is not a part of it. (I love Chiodos by the way, if you couldn't tell by my previous posts. xD)

And thanks for the correction. I haven't looked up stuff about it in awhile, and was going off my memory. hah

I took your advice and found this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiodos

Perhaps look at the genre they are listed as...i know its wikipedia but its usually right on what kind of genre bands are...

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

then i looked them up again this time on their myspace....

http://www.myspace.com/chiodos

maybe look at how they classify themselves...i think they are at least part emo band

[rose_of_sharyn]

lol only checked if my article got accepted, 350 comments, but yeah this is kinda odd, the whole situation with him attempting suicide then posting the next day that everything will be fine...

[Dragon Master]

Infamou$17 wrote:

As much as Craig's voice makes me want to rip my ears off in disgust, this is still not something to joke about

Bad music, but no one should rejoice about another man's death.

[lllostmotelll]

I'm sure there won't be a soul who will read all the comments, but if they do and get to mine, and at least have posted on this, here's something to chew on:

Whether you have respect for Chiodos or not, whether you like Craig or not, whether you could give two shits about this band or not, it is 1000% uncool to talk down on someone who may have some serious mental issues and may require a "wake-up call" like this to realize that they need help.

I feel like the ignorance comes from not knowing someone who has problems with themselves, whether it be depression or a skewed view of self-image, but I've known plenty of people who suffer from depression and it's not usually something they can help.

I knew a girl who hung herself the night after her winter formal who that night actually decided to go, dateless, because she wanted to say goodbye to all of her friends one last time. She knew she was going to kill herself that night. She left her whole family and her friends wondering why someone who seemed so happy could hide depression so well, write about it every day in her diary, and then hang herself in her basement.

I also knew a girl very close to me who suffered from depression who overdosed on heroine. She sat in the hospital in a coma for four days when the medical staff declared her brain-dead with little to no chance of recovery.

So think about how much of a ****ing joke it would have been if he actually killed himself. Think about how much of a ****ing scumbag you actually are if you are bashing a man for suffering from depression and trying to take his life, but failing. I sensed firsthand when I went to their video shoot in Pontiac a sign of gratitude that he was alive, and after talking to him, I can only hope that he is doing better and will know now the value of life.

But seriously, grow the **** up.

[metal_666_man]

thank you previous comment for i did not want to quote that whole thing. People are TRULY ignorant these days. Someone attempts suicide and they think what an emo, they dont think, what if he actually died, no they decide to post comments that prove what kinda of crap our society is and how we think. And suicide is a serious issue if you guys never noticed

[staticman]

i bet half the people who have left a message on this don't even know who chiodos is haha

[kgmusicguru94]

Ok. lllostmotelll knows what it is I'm about to talk about. And please people, I really need you to read this. I know the feeling. I my self struggle with depression. I've thought about ending it all. I'm only 14! I'm a freshman. It's bullshit when you wake up everyday and you don't like yourself. Shit, I hate myself from time to time. But my depression isn't the main reason for my posting of this bulletin.

Some of you guys, are the reason why we have so much hate in the world. You guys are the reason why we HAVE people who are depressed. If people didn't make fun of other people who struggled with this problem, then the people with depression and problems like this, would have the chance to recover. You don't know what it's like when you get one single comment from a person, a person you know or not, and you start to think to yourself "Wow, am I really like what this person said? Or is it worse? Am I really this way? Why did he say that?" And then it's a snowball effect. It is horrible. You guys really need to grow the hell up. And I know this isn't threating to you. I'm just a 14-year-old but what the hell man? You guys don't know what this Craig Owens goes through day in and day out.

I bought the re-release of Chiodos' Bone Palace Ballet and it comes with a bonus dvd of Chiodos behind the scenes. Craig Owens gets throught the day just like I do. From great, positive comments from friends. A Chiodos fan, at the end of the show, threw a letter towards Craig for him to read. The camera man filmed Craig talking about the letter and Craig said that it meant a lot to him.

And all you other people, the so called "Chiodos fans". Why aren't you guys sticking up for Craig Owens? All I'm reading is just "Wow I feel sorry for him". My ass is posting a ****ing long bulletin chewing people out about them not caring!

Now this paragraph is to EVERYONE.

Craig Owens isn't mentally upset. Nothing along the lines of that. The man has a LOT of shit on his plate. Like A LOT. He's got Chiodos, he's writing a book, he's in like 3 side projects, he's wanting to be in MORE side projects, he's writing lyrics to so many things, he's got so much to do! So how about you try and do all the things that he's done. You'd think your finished too huh? WRONG. Craig Owens had a solo cover story along with Anthony Green of Circa Survive, and his story told about his life. This man has been through so much. He is an accidental child of his parents, he lived in a 2 bedroom apartment throughout the majority of his childhood and his parents divorced when he was somewhere between the ages of 2-4. Now, that is not all. There is so much more to this man's life that I forgot the majority of it.

And also, all you people who are saying Chiodos is an emo band, your a ****ing idiots. Chiodos is nowhere near emo. The most "emo" songs that they have a "A Letter From Janelle" (but that's another story that means SO much to Craig Owens that I'll tell it later) and "Intensity In Ten Cities" which is the ballad song of the album Bone Palace Ballet.

CHIODOS IS POST-HARDCORE.

I hope that my post will keep you guys thinking and will convince you that you are wrong and that Craig is a beautiful person and that you guys will think about what it is you've said and you will apologize.

Thank you, have a good life

-Kyle.

[kgmusicguru94]

No wait strike that, he does have mental disorders. I forgot about that. My bad!