Emo Music Attacked Over Teen Suicide

An inquest in Maidstone has heard that Hannah Bond, a 13 year-old girl from Kent, committed suicide by hanging herself - and emo music has been blamed, reports NME.com.

Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, the coroner who gave the verdict of suicide yesterday (May 7), suggested that the fact that Bond was an obsessive fan of such music was linked to her death.

The inquest heard that Bond had discussed with friends the "glamour" of suicide, and was obsessed with American band My Chemical Romance. She had a picture of an emo girl with bloody wrists on her Bebo page.

Bond's father Ray explained that his daughter had had an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony.

Heather Bond condemned emo music, saying: "There are [emo] websites that show pink teddies hanging themselves. She called emo a fashion and I thought it was normal. Hannah was a normal girl. She had loads of friends. She could be a bit moody but I thought it was just because she was a teenager."

As he gave the verdict of suicide, coroner Sykes said: "The emo overtones concerning death and associating it with glamour I find very disturbing."

Comments

[Mithaearon]

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P

[Josh Laiho]

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P

Yeah, that is bad when parents have to bury their own children.

But it's funny that emo bands are being blamed for this. I hate emo music it is so boring and stupid. It would also make me want to kill myself.

[Cacophonic]

My Chemical Romance. Lulz.

I believe the emo bands should be the ones killing themselves. We'd have a lot less poser guitarists running around if it happened like that.

R.I.P. Hannah.

[DREAM EVIL 1138]

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

[Red33]

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

[strat0blaster]

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

[cheese_weasel]

Seems like another version of "lets blame our kids delinquent behaviour on GTA". If a thirteen year old want to commit suicide there is more than just the type of music she listens to at fault. Maybe the parents? Just maybe.
And I do agree that it is always sad when the parents have to bury their own child.

[metallicaforevr]

I just want to say, FUCK YOU EMO MUSIC!
now you all know what it feels like being told your music assists suicide, just like they blamed metal music for columbine and other school shootings. kind of stupid right? maybe if these "emo" bands didnt fully promote hatred of ones life and parents, and borderline encourage self inflicted pain there would be a lot more happy people around here.

However i am really sorry to hear this young child felt that taking her own life was the route to take.

[cthuludawn21]

yes. the girl killed her self because Gerard Way infected her brain and caused her to do malicious things. it couldn't POSSIBLY be that the girl herself or, god forbid, her parents, could be to blame.

[sticknick]

"Let's get this straight folks: If your kid kills himself over anything that comes out of Gene Simmons mouth, then you're just not doing your f**king job as a parent."

- Dennis Miller

[Red33]

Hell I bet she didn't even listen to the band, everyone remember Manson and Columbine? People jumped the gun blamed the band, then it turned out that they really didn't listen to it.

[Moozze]

DREAM EVIL 1138 wrote:

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

Thats contradicting...

[frankv]

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

I think the idea is that the emo subculture glamourises suicide.

[Kornholic]

Emo music should be banned. Its the cause of all evil. Thats why there are american troops in Iraq. hehehe

[Thursdae]

^^ +1.. the girl had issues that the parents thought were normal.

[Moozze]

Moozze wrote:

DREAM EVIL 1138 wrote:

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

Thats contradicting...

Sorry, just read it again and it doesn't have to be contradicting.

People blame lots of things on music or for example, games, I think the influence of those things is overrated.

[MyNameBeMikal]

As much I am annoyed by those sorts of bands, I think people are just stupid and looking for an excuse. The girl was probably depressed on her own, and would have done it anyways. The music isn't going to push her that far had she not already been deep in it on her own. And everyone else around her needs a scapegoat rather than blaming the dead. Just about every "emo" band has a quota of songs they release AGAINST suicide. i.e. Anything on The Black Parade, Good Charlotte "Hold On", Blink "Adams Song" (Not so much emo, but no band that is accusedly emo is the same as the bands that were originally emo, SDRE, JEW, Fugazi).

[Thursdae]

Yeah prolly shoulda quoted him.. didn't know that like 15 people would post in 2 minutes haha:

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

[Mithaearon]

MyNameBeMikal wrote:

As much I am annoyed by those sorts of bands, I think people are just stupid and looking for an excuse. The girl was probably depressed on her own, and would have done it anyways. The music isn't going to push her that far had she not already been deep in it on her own. And everyone else around her needs a scapegoat rather than blaming the dead. Just about every "emo" band has a quota of songs they release AGAINST suicide. i.e. Anything on The Black Parade, Good Charlotte "Hold On", Blink "Adams Song" (Not so much emo, but no band that is accusedly emo is the same as the bands that were originally emo, SDRE, JEW, Fugazi).

I live 10 minutes drive from Maidstone (where the girl was from) and if I lived there I would top myself too, add in emo music in to the equation is a wonder she made it to 13.

[atc228]

At least it's not metal this time...

But honestly, anyone who lets music take that much control over their life has more problems than just being a music fan...

Now maybe she had some prior disposition, then when emo came around it didn't mix well with her prior disposition and that is what caused it. I highly doubt that it was purely "emo" music, as much as I don't care for the genre.

Once again, they are just looking for someone to blame instead of taking responsibility and realizing that they should have tried to intervene earlier. (Especially since they said she had a self-harm episode before.) Now I'm not saying it is just bad parenting, because it's damn hard being a parent, let alone a parent with a child who has problems that you don't know how to solve. What I am saying, is that it was a mix of factors and they should recognize that.

Also, instead of warning parents against letting their kids listen to emo music, they should be warning parents to look for signs, and self harm tendencies. Something like:
"we lost our child because we didn't see the signs. We encourage all other parents to learn about, and look for these signs, in the hopes that it may save a life. Be part of your child's life, know about their hobbies and interests. By doing so, you will find out if they are taking a hobby too far. Listening to music and certain genres is great for kids because it gives them a sense of identity. But, like anything in life, it can be taken too far, and you should watch out for that."


But that is just my opinion...

[Trynstopme]

Well. I'm not surprised in the least.

Music as suckish as emo would make me kill myself too. Is it fair to blame MCR? i wish it was - maybe we could get em to stop making music that much faster but whatever.

+1 for cheese_weasel though. Theres more to a kid committing suicide than just bad music tastes.
and it is a sad day indeed when a parent must bury their own children.

strat0blaster wrote:
I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

+100

[Cacophonic]

To be honest, I think killing people on GTA makes it to where I WON'T kill in real life.

I don't want to go to jail, but it's fun pretending, right?

[browar]

Songs, even the worst, can't make people commit suicide.

[NemX162]

Lol, MCR is not emo. Emo initiation? The ignorance of the world will never cease to make me puke.

[happyman1990]

where's the parenting? oh wait, they let their daughter listen to MCR! They deserve to be hung!

[Fade_One_Fuel]

Hmm it is quite clear that her parents have absolutely no idea what Emo music actually. Lets face it, their daughter killed herself and they are looking for something to fix the blame on. When of course it is not the fault of the music. The music was probably the only thing that gave her happiness in life.

[metallicaforevr]

NemX162 wrote:

Lol, MCR is not emo. Emo initiation? The ignorance of the world will never cease to make me puke.

yeah its surprising what people come up with these days, isnt it?

[jpgilbert701]

I feel no sympathy for this girl. Anybody that commits suicide doesn't deserve to be remembered by many people for ending their problems in such a cowardly, selfish way. On the other hand I feel bad for the parents because they have to bury their daughter. I also think people need to stop blaming music for murders and suicide because it is your choice in the end to go through with something. You dont do something because Ozzy or Halford says so.

[Emenius Sleepus]

either: one less idiot in the world,

or: there are many other issues that probably played a part and that are going to be completely overlooked.

[thelovingdead]

either: one less idiot in the world,

or: there are many other issues that probably played a part and that are going to be completely overlooked.

Exactly!

p.s. Green Day sucks balls

[thesecondman]

You know, this really has nothing to do with music. "rock and roll is satan music," remember? I find it ridiculous that you guys are even mocking her for suicide tho. As stupid as it is, it is a really serious subject. Did any of you guys watch the new disturbed vid? Seriously. Lay off the girl. It's the tendency of our culture right now, and it's something that needs to change, but we can't just blame music. The blame lies with us. Chances are, someone saw this coming but said nothing. I've known people that have committed suicide and people that have cut, and it's serious. Get your self-righteous metal heads out of your butts and be aware.

[duncang]

I hope every single person bashing emo music or indeed this girl on this column gets permabanned. Show some respect.

My Chemical Romance is a poor example, as they in fact actively try to stop self harm and suicide in their fans. The problem is that the sort of imagery that's found in bands like MCR (though MCR are on the less extreme end) does get people making images like those slit-wrist ones, which will have probably influenced her decision more than the music or the bands themselves.

[Angelic_Demon]

People don't become depressed by depressive music, depressed people just start listening to depressive music. Same goes for suicidal music

[pinky_demon]

Ohhh, when will it end...when will it end

[Comeback Kiddd]

I blame the people for being idiots by letting themselves get brainwashed or consumed by this music. sure almost all of emo music either suck or talk about suicide but comonnn. that doesnt mean you have too

[Bazilisck311]

My Chemical Romance doesn't write music about suicide.

Another frivolous attempt by parents to refuse responsibility for the well being of their children.

[Cheesepuff]

Emo music doesnt cause death. Thats like saying that obese people are fat because of Mcdonalds. This was a result of bad parenting, like many suicides supposedly related to music. Notice how they didn't disclose any reason or detail to the public about the suicide itself and what might have caused it and just blamed it on a trend. MCR's songs aren't even depressing, and MCR themselves also deny emo, depression, and cutting yourself. In fact, the music may have been one of the happiest aspects of her life.

I hope everybody that bashes MCR here, saying they suck balls, and using this suicide as a means to justify themselves die of cancer.

[Matt Chavie]

It's just music these stupid ass kids are looking for excuses, and I'm going to blame their parents for sucking ass and not teaching them about reality. And since emo initiation is cutting, is metal initiation hating on emo so much it's cliche and completely overused. Every got the joke years ago, we know you guys hate "emo" you can stop broadcasting it.

[Kazue00]

Emo music sucks worse than any music ever created by man, however i would not blame it on the music for the kids death, i believe it was completely the parents fault.

[Travis Tricky]

Frank Zappa said it best:

"I wrote a song about dental floss, but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?"

[guitarace010]

OK so first off, I think that emo music generally sucks, with a few very small exceptions. But I do have to say that as much as it blows it isn't making people kill themselves. Blaming MCR and emo for this girl's suicide is like blaming Ozzy for the "Suicide Solution" suicides or metal music for Columbine. It doesn't make any sense. I listen to Metal and I don't kill people in fact over 4,000 high school seniors in my home town (back in 2006) listened to metal and none of us killed people. I'm sorry but this is just another case of parent doing a shitty job raising their kids and then blaming it on everyone but the guilty party, themselves.

[GNR's Fan]

"suggested that the fact that Bond was an obsessive fan of such music was linked to her death."

I stopped reading after this, i feel bad for the family.

But this really is the usual pile of shit, he played games, listened to rock music, he watched winnie the pooh bla bla bla that's porbably why she killed herself.

[alexxero]

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

[Kenny_NJ]

My chemical romance is not a part of the emo garbage. They are actually much better than those trashy "metal core"or "grind core" fashion oriented, skinny pants boys bands out there today.
They are fairly decent and the structure of their music and the guitarists are clearly one of the best in contemporary pop rock history.

[wbk666]

im sorry but theres so many posters on here who should be banned now, to even try to make a joke of the subject is disgraceful to say the least.

to blame any sort of music for someone commiting suicide is silly, the parents should look a little closer to home before blaming a band.

[jamie_hough]

Firstly, emo sucks ass! seocndly, suicide happens everyday, but when its other kids doing it who dont listen to a genre of rock music, its not a big deal... doesnt make sense to me. the parents need somethign to blame i guess... someone needs to tell them about that bill hicks sketch... might put it in perspective...

[Firewind Raging]

The parents probably could have ket a closer eye on her, her "loads of friends" should have done the same.

Emo music doesn't make me want to kill myself, it just makes me want to listen to something else.

[pyritmann]

sorry to the family, alot of this emo stuff is really bad for the brain BUT, the parents should have been smart enough to KNOW that a moody 13 year old shouldnt be listening to it. they should have stepped in. and MCR isnt emo music, they just have emo pics. RIP

[skywayavenue]

wouldnt the the emo initiation thing be a red flag to the parents? why didnt they talk to her then when they had the chance?

[jonnyharris1]

The people making comments about 'the emos should kill themselves so we can get rid of emo music' should quite frankly be ashamed at themselves. I find it appauling that people could possibly think something like that of a situation like this.
Blaming emo music for this is a gross simplification of the situation and im sure there were many things that would drive her to such an act. I do however think the emo culture itself is one of the main problems and the idea of self harm being glamourous is something that seriously needs to be changed

Also , if she had already self harmed once, you would of thought the parents could have done more about it,she deffinately sounds like she needed councelling or something

[PrincessJoe]

teenagers try to imitate. if you listen to certain music you blame the whole world with no reason, you get sad with no reason...etc.
in contrast to the music of the sixties music today tries to create a movement or an ideology although there is no need.

[xxAlBeRtxx]

i dont see what MCR has anything to do with this. they dont really promote killing yourself in any of their songs

[TFBISE16]

Emo's are absolutely pathetic, grow up.

[ImagineTheThorn]

I may not like MCR, but I respect them as musicians. And if any band should even come close to being blamed, it should be Hawthorne Heights with that damn "Ohio Is For Lovers" song, the song clearly states, "So cut my wrists and black my eyes." How much more self-infliction of pain and suicide can you get than that?

[CaTeArS]

This world is so ****ed up

[hobo467]

R.I.P.

I am not touching this article with a hundred-foot pole. One thing I will add, however, is about Gerard Way's comment about emo. That was said only to save his band's reputation. If he's insulting bands like Minor Threat and Rites of Spring, then he's basically insulting most of his friends' influences i.e. Thursday and other New Jersey bands. In short, this is tragic, MCR makes catchy, popular music that is not true emo in any way, and Gerard Way is a completely idiotic douche.

[craiganders]

"Bond's father Ray explained that his daughter had had an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony."

-Note to parents: if something like that happens, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. don't blame music, and then just sit back and wait for it to get worse. emo music might be depressing but so is lack of accountability of people to raise their own damn kids.

[jonathanonfire]

frankv wrote:

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.I think the idea is that the emo subculture glamourises suicide.

this is true. stupid kids. they'll latch onto anything to belong. it's so sad she took it that far. ay. sorry for their loss. although their parents should've played a more attentive role in their child's life.

and mcr is emo/pop-punk... no matter what any little 14 year old obsessed fan might say and what myspace says. loll. lol certainly not metal, by any means. they might throw in little cheesy solos now and then but that doesn't make them metal. that's like calling korn death metal. it just isn't happening.
and also mcr are the KINGS of todays emo fashion movement (see other mainstream bands: green day, atreyu) among young teens. other scene's fashions are pretty bad too, mind you, but not as bad as that.
horrible. r.i.p.

[sheezor]

jpgilbert701 wrote:
You dont do something because Ozzy or Halford says so.

Only if Lemmy says so.

[mawood83]

ok so emo is very over-dramatic music..i like a lot of it..not MCR, but some of the groups like taking back sunday. She was obviously an obsessive little girl..Gerard Way never told her to kill herself..if she's going to kill herself because she thinks its cool then someone f*cked up somewhere along the line..ie parents not paying attention..hey let's all blame pop culture..we're sooo perfect our daughter couldnt possibly have killed herself because of us!! And what the hell is an "emo initiation"??? i didnt know you had to be in a gang or cult to listen to music these days...guess i just listen cuz i like it and dont try to emulate FICTIONAL STORIES!! Parents please try to tell your kids the difference between fact and entertainment..my God!!!! Guess what millions of kids have watched movies like Die Hard..and i havent read of any cases of cars flying into hellicopters...obviously something wrong mentally or phsycologically with this girl just like there is with stalkers who create an obsession with someone and think that person loves them...CRAZY!!

[adslam3]

this is just like when marilyn manson killed all those kids at columbine....ouch! too soon?
anyways, suicide is a serious matter and a lot of times there are so many different fators that play a part in it. oftentimes the biggest influences start right at home. AND i dont think a coroner is someone that can tell if someone committed suicide because of music..don't they usually confirm or investigate the cause of dead i.e. drugs, heart attack, suicide etc? did he find music in her veins? come on people!

[Mattallica1]

stupid emo's and music just setting a bad example, they have mental health issues lol

r.i.p

[HFR]

Josh Laiho wrote:

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Yes true but
My Chemical Romance isnt an emo band?

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P


Yeah, that is bad when parents have to bury their own children.

But it's funny that emo bands are being blamed for this. I hate emo music it is so boring and stupid. It would also make me want to kill myself.

[Tallman1984]

Yeah, so I guess the parents aren't responsible at all for this. Nope, MCR put the noose in her hand. Just like Judas Priest put the shotgun in those teenagers' hands so one of them could kill himself, just like Marilyn Manson purposely instructed those students to shoot up Columbine, just like Blink-182's anti-suicide song somehow instructed a teenager to commit suicide. Right? If stuff like this was ever really the case at all, I wish the parents who are irresponsible enough to do something as juvenile as passing the blame onto musicians should listen to plenty of emo themselves and do this planet a favor (this also goes for anybody who was ever in the PRMC).

[Metal_Rich]

That's her own fault for joining in this trend. Her mother knew of the girl's glamorous views of suicide, yet she didn't say anything?! Her Dad didn't mind her 'initiating' into some group by cutting herself?!

Bad parenting is the blame, as usual, not music/video games/films. Learn to stop blaming others, you foolish people.

[slash_angus_VH]

this is exactly like when they blamed Megadeth's "À Tout le Monde" for the Dawson shooting in fall of 2006. The music is not to blame here, it is the attitude and culture that comes with the music, and that is sometimes taken too seriously by troubled individuals (like Kimveer Gill, or this suicidal girl) that is to blame.

[lesismore91]

Okay, I hate Emo music just as much as the next guy but blaming music for such tragedies is just false reasoning to give people comfort in their loss. We saw the same thing in the Columbine Massacre a few years ago, people threw the blame at Marylin Manson, claiming that his music and his message was the sole cause of that awful event. The truth is there is no sole cause or reason for these incidents, it's just human nature to find reasons for them (real or fake) to better allow them to cope with their emotions.

[stuey22]

uh oh, here we go, the same thing that happened with metal is going to happen with emo...

[Zertuche]

Its wrong that something so stupid and retarded can cause death. I feel sorry for the girls parents and family, but emo is just a fad. It should dissapear in a couple years.

[Shredder Shaun]

u cnt blame music for suicide when does a song ever say go kill yourself specifically to the listener? i think emo music is the shittest genre in the world but u cnt blame it for teen suicide its jst a trend/coincidence tht emos seem to be miserable gits who want to kill themselves

[manb3arpig]

my chem. sucks... id kill myslef if i had to listen to em too

[Spay]

-facepalm-

Seriously? Holy ****ing shit...

Kids today are so...God...I can't even think of a word. This is so freaking...son of bitch. Seriously, are kids today that big a slave to the mainstream and so disillusioned that they can't see through the romantisized images with their common sense. It's insane.

I guess, if one cool kid jumped off a bridge, would you do it?

I guess the answer is now "Yes"

[captainperoxide]

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

+1
And yeah, get over the fact that not everything happens for a specific reason. You can't blame someone's suicide on something except themselves...because THEY DID IT.

[Lumeister]

lol, My Chemical Romance are the picture on an emo news story on UG, therefore their words don't mean shit.

Society will blame anyone as long as they keep their own well-being. It seems to be every man for himself, and music is no exception. What do we do? These accusations are going to totally kill metal.

On top of all this blasphemous bullshit, I'd love to see them suing a whole genre of music.

R.I.P. Hannah.

(Does anybody find this kind of ironic...Kill Hannah?)

[Giant Tool]

what retards, did the dad mean he was okay with her self harming for initiation into a club?????
music isn't making people kill themselves, its people who aren't mentally right and think that because they listen to "emo" music then they must be "emos" and must therefore cut themselves and kill themselves.
this is rediculous!!!!!

[Metal_Contact]

Darwin's Natural selection, if your stupid or not fit for this world you should not be here. Now that this junk band has done its job they should participate in this selection

[742627000017]

R.I.P. Hannah (even though she was an emo)
Lets let society blame emo music for that so it would go away

[Beakwithteeth]

This is f*cking retarded. Music never killed anyone plain and simple. Those parents need to take some f*cking responsibility!

[kumamilesbear]

i find it sad that a girl hung herself, but i also find it sad that she, and everybody on here, has such a misconception of what emo is. its a style of music that is just emotional, not necessarily depressing. mcr isnt emo, its just alt rock with some metal and punk elements in it. bands like sunny day real estate and mineral are emo bands. and its not necessarily depressing music.

[Beakwithteeth]

742627000017 wrote:

R.I.P. Hannah (even though she was an emo)Lets let society blame emo music for that so it would go away

Everyone who has to add this is an *******. Just because she is an "emo" doesn't make her less worthwhile as a person.

[Jonny92]

haha
i dont like emo music

but blaming any music for suicide (unless it has subliminal messagin or summat) is quite rediculous)

i remember reading about all the claims that fade to black by metallica was the cause of many suicides
rubbish

and what kind of a parent would let their child cut themselves and think its normal?
seriously... wow

but yerr go ahead and sue emo music
cuz it does suck

[Jawshuwa]

TFBISE16 wrote:

Emo's are absolutely pathetic, grow up.

It can be considerably difficult to "grow up" when your parents lack the competence to raise you.

[fairycake92]

jeez...im from maidstone..and ive seen her around...**** that..

[WOWdoritos]

" Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, "

Someone ****ed up there.

[6Slay6tanic6]

Its easy to become so confused when your at that age, with lots of hormones flying left right and center - the last thing you need is the glamorising of suicide, which i do agree this emo fashion promotes.

This emo trend is offering an escape hatch, to these troubled kids, which can be so be so attractive to them. Its a shame they dont find music that strengthens and matures you instead of this bullshit.

I dont think you were a bad kid Hannah, just your normal teenage girl trying to find her indentity and explore her personality in this world.

RIP

[Vrstone87]

There is an eo band called Kill Hannah....irony?

[Vrstone87]

*emo

[timi_hendrix]

"Emo" music only causes suicide if the child is a moron who takes it too seriously or has problems in their life already.

RIP and that.

[desimate]

typical, music used as a scapegoat once again, as much as i severely detest emo music, it shouldnt be to blame here. it couldnt be the fact the girl had psychological problems, and as harsh as it is for saying it, it is partially her parents fault for not taking any notice, in fact, it may have contributed, but no, music has to be to blame.

same as columbine, the shooters had issues, murdered innocent people, and hapenned to like marilyn manson, waddya know, we have a scapegoat.

the girl had issues, and although she may have related, her parents didnt take any notice, they should take some ****in responsibility instead of blaming ouside parties.

[desimate]

*related to the music*

[Jawshuwa]

You know, it's obvious that people don't read through the comments, or even half of them. I've read about ten of the same posts by ten different individuals.

Either way, I agree with those ten plus posts. Music as a scapegoat, parents lacking involvement/support, depressed children listen to depressing music, depressing music does not make children depressed, et cetera.

Hell, I get more sad listening to "Another Day" by Dream Theater than I would any "emo" song.

[ctb]

duncang wrote:

"I hope every single person bashing emo music or indeed this girl on this column gets permabanned. Show some respect.

My Chemical Romance is a poor example, as they in fact actively try to stop self harm and suicide in their fans. The problem is that the sort of imagery that's found in bands like MCR (though MCR are on the less extreme end) does get people making images like those slit-wrist ones, which will have probably influenced her decision more than the music or the bands themselves."

thank you.

bloody idiots on this site.

it's terrible how the trend (or in fact, all trends for this matter) has evolved. we can blame music all we want, but this is just a tragic case of such a pretty, young girl taking her own life.

my condolences to the family.

[isabiggles]

can i just say one thing.
my chemical romance are not emo. they are pop punk. they are an MTV based idea of what emo is.
this girl obviously has no idea what real emo music is and is just following a trend.
i just read a newspaper article on this and it said she told her parents that it was part of the emo trend and that it was part of her 'initiation' to become an emo.
load of rubbish IMO.

[ilovesoupandpie]

Three things:

Does this Remind you of columbine anyone. (see desimate)

Where were the parents at.

Don't you think that maybe the possibility that she was already suicidal influenced her choice of fashion, towards one that glamourised/normalised what she was already feeling.

RIP, poor kid, no one took the time to actually talk to her about her feelings.

[guitarist41]

For the mose part, the people around the person who commits suicide are to blame.

Once somebody starts talking about suicide in any detail, it usually means they're having suicidal thoughts.

Geex, I don't think there is any music that would make you want to kill yourself...apart from indie.

[jimmyhotpants]

i'm not the biggest fan of emo but that girl had a seriously warped view of what it's all about

[guitarist41]

isabiggles wrote:
she told her parents that it was part of the emo trend and that it was part of her 'initiation' to become an emo.

Lol?

[otizeta]

did she get delusion? mental illness? or something like that? i think it may be tii early to justify the music. btw i dun like emo at all.

[stevezy]

my chemical romance is the next judas priest? whoda thought...

[Anavrin224]

Maybe the family should have found out why their daughter wanted to kill herself instead of putting the blame on a genre of music. It's the 21st century "devil made me do it" routine.

[rhcp_freak]

WOWdoritos wrote:

" Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, "

Someone ****ed up there.

Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, the coroner who gave the verdict of suicide yesterday (May 7), suggested that the fact that Bond was an obsessive fan of such music was linked to her death.

L2 read on.

[otizeta]

tii--> early
sorry for the typo.

[teo_huat]

this is why religion is imortant in one life..

[the1]

Wow

MCR write anti suicide songs like Headfirst for Halos.
Teenagers is about how they don't understand the whole emo culture following them.

Parents need to stop looking for scapegoats. MCR is just pop rock.

[highwind5150]

all jokes aside about how terrible emo music is...(cuz it is). Where were the parents?? That's the first thing that should be mentioned. Not the ****ing music. Rest in peace Hannah.

[Zanon]

this is completely stupid, emo music has nothing to do with suicide. The whole wrist cutting thing is just dire you have to be quite gullable to actually think that's what all the cool kids do ?

What about all these violent movies and such that are plastered over TV every day, and hell bands like morbid angel and other death metal bands talk about mutilation but you dont see kids jumping into meat grinders and shagging crosses to fit in

[C1osur3]

This is like blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine or something completely outrageous like that...

When it comes down to it, music is merely an external influence...the decision of whether someone wants to do something will always remain within their own hands.

[YoungMelvin]

people dying is never a nice thing and this has to be tragic for the family but to be honest emo music and "so called" emo people are just loaded with too much ****in selfpity... most of these people only dress like that and follow the whole lifestyle because the rest of the damn city does...emos definitely a fashion thing...and after years of kidding yourself that everything hates you of coarse its goin to screw your head up

[yearzero]

It's always a tragedy when a child dies.

I don't know where to stand on the issue. The one thing I hate about emo culture is how it trivializes depression and turns it into a lifestyle. It seems like such a slap in the face for those of us that are truly depressed and suffer from a real diagnosed mental disorder.

There's nothing "glamorous" about suicide. There's nothing cool about the feelings of worthlessness and self doubt. Dear God Hannah was only 13.


I always hesitate to blame culture for societal ills. I went to high school in a post Columbine environment as a huge Marilyn Manson fan. I was always so mad at how music and video games took the blame for two stupid kids.

I guess I don't know where to stand on this.

Sorry if I was rambling. I've had this issue with "Emo" since the beginning.

[kravitzwasright]

shame.

though i dont blame the girl for killing herself. bands like MCR do seem to glamorize mutilation and death and make it seem like the solution to all problems.

then again, its so typical theyd blame a band for her death.

[Slashrulz]

Well, I don't think this 13 year old girl was much into philosophy, or that she had read Albert Camus or any other existentialist, so I'm guessing, she did kill her self because that kind of music lyrics, C'mon, read From First to Last Lyrics, all they ever sing about is how crappy life is. Now I'm not saying life isn't crappy, but emo music only sees it from a really stupid point of view.
Well that's just my idea...
Music shouldn't be banned, but i just think there's really dumb people in this world that don't think by themselves like this little girl, they are just really easy impressionable.
There is no way to prevent this kind of suicides...

[Zanon]

teo_huat wrote:

this is why religion is imortant in one life..

yeah, just like blowing people up so you can have virgins and glory. and hypocritical preists who go against their beleif and contradict themselves on a daily basis.. OH OUR SAVIOR that..

[desimate]

i think a point i missed before they i thought about now is, they say this music and its depressive subject is to be too blame for suicide, murder etc etc, but alot of emo or ANY music comes from people who have been there themselves, songs such as Jimmy Eat Worlds 'Hear you Me', straight from the heart from personal experience, so if this girl felt something from the music, or it moved her in some sort of way, and that that THAT is wrong, is it being said that artists shouldnt convey their feelings or beliefs in their music or as fans we shouldnt feel the emotion in songs or relate to them in any way cos its wrong? ok yeh its tragic but how often does it happen? its straight up generalising.

cos to me that is bull.

how many people have felt angry, or sad, or even happy because a song has moved them that way. additionally i think its pretty rediculous how alternative music is always to blame, ya never see anyone like amy whinehouse (whos lyrics are completely autobiographical) being blamed for people delving into the world of excess.

[IKnowItHurts]

im sorry for this families loss, but seriously, either she was just misunderstanding of the "scene" and took her own ignorance to the wrong level, or she was just a really trouble 13 year old girl, and the parents need to stop blaming everyone else for their problems, and start blaming themselves.

[Tapping_Ninja]

I just want to point out I'm sorry for the loss and I dislike a lot of emo music... But I don't think music is just the only cause really, in most cases of susicded their is always something else behind it. I guess Death metal makes people wanted to kill other people, and Black metal makes people want to burn churchs... wait black metal does do that... Point is music is most likely not the case for what happen but the whole scene behind the music and not the music itself... SO STOP FUCKING BLAMING MUSIC FOR YOUR OWN FUCKED UP KIDS PROBLEMS!!! and that is directed all parents not just these parents...

[smash119]

It is completely irresponsible and ludicrous to blame entertainment media for violence, suicide, etc. While certain media may give someone an impetus or idea to execute a certain act, it is certain that said person would already be predisposed to such behavior anyway.

It's also impossible to determine any causation. For example, did emo music make her suicidal? Or was she suicidal first and then she decided to listen to emo
music?

My heart goes to her parents. They can hardly be blamed for looking a reason to explain their tragedy, but they will soon realize that they and her friends probably overlooked dozens of warning signs.

[RUSTDOGG666]

Vrstone87 wrote:

There is an eo band called Kill Hannah....irony?

See and everyone says that metal is to blame for suicide. I listen to metal when I want to kill something not for suicide. and omg I cannot believe theres a band called Kill Hannah then come to find out a girl named Hannah actually dies. That is ironic as hell. With much respect I'm sorry this happened and sorry for the families loss, but I would like to say one thing. Maybe someone will get a band going and call it Kill Miley and that annoying bitch will kill herself. If thats too harsh then at least get a band going and call it Kill Trisha and maybe my ex will kill herself. I'm not trying to offend anyone by saying that but I think we can all agree that emo music needs to go away. Make more room for metal. Something actually worth listening to where no one would want to kill themselves over.

[Bigpooh88]

The real question is what a thirteen year old girl doing with a parental adverisery CD's?

My parents wouldn't let me buy Limp Bizket(thank god) or Freak on a Leash when I was 13.

Final argument, don't blame the "emo" music, but the culture

[cwheel3915]

i have never posted at the forums before, ive only read and got guitar tabs, but this topic and the responses by the people here have completely shocked me..

we have experts prove on a daily basis that music, and images can severely alter a child, this shit has been proven.. but because frank zappa said it isnt true we dont believe it? someone actaully refrenced adams song as an "anti-suicide" song, didnt like a bunch of people commit suicide to that one perticular song? and the song itself had no effect? had nothing to do with it? what about the suburban teenager, with parents who tell them they love them everyday, kiss them good night and do everything a loving parent should do, yet the child still commits suicide.

since almost the begging of music we have known that music can affect your state of mind.

perhaps if the parents wouldnt have let theyre child listen to this music it wouldnt have happened, but then again they believed what you all believed music never hurt no one.... except hanna.

it is a fact plain and simple violent music, and violent images promotes violence in children,, this shit has already been proved.. execpt it and realize you shouldnt market suicide music to kids.. how could you sell this shit to kids and look at yourself in the mirror? i feel sorry for everyone who has posted here today.

[Year Zero]

This is like blaming Marilyn Manson for all the school shootings. It's ridiculous. Don't get me wrong I hate emo as much as the next guy, bu tI can also see bullshit when I see it.

[schecter_guy]

i don't ususally blame music for influencing people's behavior (i.e. columbine), but when it comes to emo, that's exactly what's happening.

[wildchild6660]

She mentioned some kind of initiation. So she was apparently a member of a some emo-crazed group. You might wanna blame them rather than the music. There are numerous stories of cults committing murders and mass suicides because their charismatic cult leaders told them to. Never underestimate the power of bad company.

[xheartbreakerx]

That's terrible. I'm very sorry for the families loss. Music is extrememly influential but it's only partly to blame. She was probably hanging around a bunch of kids who told her it was cool to cut yourself and kill yourself and a whole bunch of crap.
It's really sad. I just wish people could see. Jesus will help you guys. He loves us and wants to show us that.

(Please don't hate on me.)

[cwheel3915]

lets do an exercise.. who has every heard a song so sad it brought tears to your eyes??? most of you i would imagine(its okay metal heads you can admit you cried)

okay now how many of you have every heard a song that made you just feel great pumped up and ready to go.. i have....

if music can do that it cant make you feel depressed? unless you already were really???

well ive got sad , from songs were i was not sad before i listened to them

[xScarfx]

I feel for the family,
but i hate when people blame music for these things. MCR is not even an emo band. This is the same old story with columbine shootings and marilyn manson, and the subliminal messages in Judas Priest.

And emo initiation? most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. Emo is not a cult... emo is a type of music..

[metalcameron89]

R.I.P hannah.....this is a very sad thing to see happening.i do not blame the parents that would be stupid.as much as i want to im not blamming mcr.teenagers at that age are so very easily influenced by in music.you hear what you want and you take it for what you want.

[Guitar}Zero]

It seems to me that the emo "scene" makes self-harm like cutting fashionable and masks the signs of those with real emotional problems, making it harder for them to be recognized as someone in need of professional help. Every couple years there's some outcry about an artist's music leading to teen suicide (Marilyn Manson and even Third Eye Blind with "Jumper" are notable) but blaming a whole genre? Damn that emo is some bad shiz. . .

[leper_affinity]

As lazy as I think it is for music to be blamed for episodes like this, I think in this case it seems like the music could have been an influence.

[Engel22]

this emo stuff has to end, i mean most people beilived (some years ago) that bands like metallica and others were the cause, but now the true cause is here. i do admit i am a HIM fan and i have no shame saying it, but even HIM doesnt sound as dark as the others do. its becoming a dark genre and bands need to lose the suicide is bliss crud before more kids die.

[brunohbarros]

cwheel3915 said:

lets do an exercise.. who has every heard a song so sad it brought tears to your eyes??? most of you i would imagine(its okay metal heads you can admit you cried)

okay now how many of you have every heard a song that made you just feel great pumped up and ready to go.. i have....

if music can do that it cant make you feel depressed? unless you already were really???

well ive got sad , from songs were i was not sad before i listened to them

I particularly agree with you and i think that the music has this strange power of change minds and emotions, but, someone can only and/or really comit suicide if isn't minded up with itself to dicernite the things all around.

[Philip1982]

Unfortunately teenagers are not emotionally developed enough to realise that songs are songs and emo is not a way of life, it's just a kind of weird genre of music.
They hear this stuff and think that's really connected to my life because they've split up with a boyfriend or girlfriend or their parents have told them off. It can be dangerous but only if they get in with the wrong people and may be slightly depressed anyway.
Whatever way you look at this, a 13 year old girl has killed herself and that is terrible and the parents will never get over it.

[STOJDub]

So wait,there not blaming Manson this time?


But seriously,unlees thers a MCR song somewhere that says"Hang youself bitch"then I don't really see how the **** they can keep blaming music,of any kind,for this.Pretty soon they'll be blaming country for bar fights and wife beating.

[MegaRon]

Unfortunate for the family, but music doesn't kill people. People that misinterpret music do.

[Nekrofagist]

thats a huge problem, emo is not a fashion statement, its a state of mind, i think its rediculous, being mad,happy,sad,content,depressed,joyful....ALL STATES OF EMO(tion) so we are all emo, unless your a damn robot

[fiftysteps]

I don't like emo, but it's hilarious to blame a genre of music for a parent's lack of observation on their children. It was metal in the 80's, now this. Music could be a sort of fuel, but never the main cause. The culprit is usually the first one to point the finger.

[leper_affinity]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

OK, they may not be emo, but please please PLEASE don't even suggest they are anything close to metal.

[brunohbarros]

I think that musics are written in way for expession and art.What really does not mean that they are right and you have to do what the songs say.

[martyr1130]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

I play music like pantera, metallica and megadeth.

If i CALLED myself country, does that really make me country?

[_A.D.I.D.A.S._]

This retarded music industry is to blame. These big shot executives need to die. They are murdering kids who are blindly believing in the emo scene.

Emo, isn't funny anymore. It needs to die, and I'm not kidding. I don't mind people expressing their feelings or relating to it and whatnot in music. Do whatever you want. But to make it a scene and having people follow it because it's "popular" is just plain wrong. I don't consider bands who are labeled emo, emo. Emo is a scene that people think they want to belong in. So the music ind makes emo into a type of music and everyone who wants to fit in, listens to it. Whats worse, is that emo is a scene that "promotes" suicide.


Sorry, just a rant. I hope you understand.

[uhh_me?]

checked.

everyone from this point on that mocks this girls death or bashes emo music will be banned.

[metallo]

my chemical Romance ARE emo!

[brunohbarros]

I like some melancholyc songs.There are some ones that that really thrills me, but I know that I don't have to
out a bullet thru the middle of my eyes...

[brunohbarros]

put bullet thru the middle of my eyes...

[metallo]

hey, look this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emo_artists!

[PastaOfMuppets]

Don't blame the music, blame her stupid social group and the way they feel they have to conform to a trend.
This is just an extreme version of what every trend following teenager does, "emo" or not.
Still, its sad for anyone to die in this way, especially at such a young age so rest in peace Hannah.

Oh, and MCR and any other bands or the style that has accompanied them is not emo in the slightest. Its all just a label that has been stupidly attached to the music by the industry and it has since attracted these stupid stereotypes and negative connotations.
Fuck the bandwagons, both the followers of this trend and all the haters (such as the many who have populated this comments section) who are just as bad.

[PastaOfMuppets]

metallo wrote:

hey, look this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emo_artists!

F unny how only about 3 of those bands could actually be classed as emo.

[surya22]

First of all, R.I.P.
This is like Ozzy and Judas Priest all over again

[rockergurl09]

Sounds a lot more like her friend's doing than the emo. Some time long ago, I used to listen to emo, but I didn't think like that at all. Yeah, her friends are really messed up.

[brunohbarros]

Guess if everyones started to live like they favorite songs say in its lyrics.The world would be a chaos, many men crying and dying for something shitty, someones wolud be laughing as childs drunk...Fans of black metal would do black metal things, fans of melodic metal would try to kill some drangons e talk to fairies, it would be eerie and absurd!

[Joe4/4/1992]

what i dont get is that of all the millions and millions of other possible reasons for this young girls suicide, a music genre is blamed
wtf is the point?

[llama_guitarist]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

win.

[AngerIsAGift06]

****ing media creating morale panics like it does with everything

[TBezza]

Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger.... I'm sorry what?!?!?! I don't like emo, but to blame a suicide on music they listen to is a bit far fetched, it will likely be a factor, but will not be the ONLY thing

[nmlyons24]

She could be a bit moody but I thought it was just because she was a teenager."

Sounds like that's the problem right there. She has no idea who her daughter was. Parents wrapped up in their own lives.

[schecter_chris]

my chemical romance..... say no more, their fans are weird in general

[llama_guitarist]

cwheel3915 wrote:

i have never posted at the forums before, ive only read and got guitar tabs, but this topic and the responses by the people here have completely shocked me..

we have experts prove on a daily basis that music, and images can severely alter a child, this shit has been proven.. but because frank zappa said it isnt true we dont believe it? someone actaully refrenced adams song as an "anti-suicide" song, didnt like a bunch of people commit suicide to that one perticular song? and the song itself had no effect? had nothing to do with it? what about the suburban teenager, with parents who tell them they love them everyday, kiss them good night and do everything a loving parent should do, yet the child still commits suicide.

since almost the begging of music we have known that music can affect your state of mind.

perhaps if the parents wouldnt have let theyre child listen to this music it wouldnt have happened, but then again they believed what you all believed music never hurt no one.... except hanna.

it is a fact plain and simple violent music, and violent images promotes violence in children,, this shit has already been proved.. execpt it and realize you shouldnt market suicide music to kids.. how could you sell this shit to kids and look at yourself in the mirror? i feel sorry for everyone who has posted here today.

People don't market things to children, just because they're out there. The kids choose to go get it themselves. If kids had more sense, they would realize it was stupid and they shouldn't listen to just what music or TV or whatever tells you to do. And what's their reason for liking it in the first place? because suicide/violent music is attractive to everyone? You can plainly see this is not the case. It really isn't too smart to blame objects and other material things for people's psychological problems.

[brunohbarros]

Emo was the only rock genres left not discriminated because their cute lyrics 'bout love.But now, there´s nothing more to hope for the media.They're going to say o lot of shits about rock and things about death and this things...

[uhh_me?]

Checked again,

as i said before: everyone from this point on that mocks this girls death or bashes emo music will be banned.

[Richee]

yea well done to all you dipshits badmouthing the music or the girl..

..have you considered that self-harm and depression is caused by MANY things, and perhaps emo music, not just a ****ing way of teenage life for these people!! Think about the reality that its not a fun thing to discuss or talk about for anyone, but being a fan of this genre of music does make it a hell of a lot easier to talk about as it's part of our culture. I unfortunately know this from experience.

So to anyone who has a bad thing to say about this poor girl and/or her parents STFU cause you clearly don't understand anything at all about feeling that bad. She wouldn't have done it just because of a few bands she listens to. There would have been other things that have made her life miserable.

R.I.P hannah.

[Lead Ninja]

"Emo initiation"? I wasn't aware it was a gang.

[brunohbarros]

How are the fathers of the girl??

[N031]

Jeez, I never would have thought that this site had such ignorant poeple. A little girl kills herself and all some of you can say is "I'd kill myself too cuz emo music sucks =)"
idiots! Sure, Emo is just whiney punk-wannabe bitches with mics, but that's no reason to make light of a confused girl's suicide.

R.I.P.

[hiddeninromance]

Vrstone87 wrote:

There is an eo band called Kill Hannah....irony?

I think you'll find that is coincidence.
Irony is saying one thing, but meaning another.

Incredibly similar to sarcasm; but less obvious.

[xXChimairaXx]

anybody remember a little case with Ozzy and "suicide solution".

kid was listening to it and blew his head off, and everybody wanted Osbourne to go down.

METAL = easy scapegoat. Why not try rap with all their rapin', killin', robbin', and skanky girls floatin around by pools slobberin' on them while they talk fast.

[kevinmawae25]

Im sorry but this sounds increddibly simmilar to something that happened back in the 80's. Remember when a family took Judas Priest to court claiming that their music inspired their son to kill himself. This is utterly ubsurd. It's not a question of Emo itself, but we've already been down this road as a society and its time for parents to start taking responsibilities for your kids. Don't blame people who express their emotions in a constructive mannor.

It's shitt like this that makes you feel bad for America.

[ZZZombieChomp]

I can't deny cwheel3915's claims that music can alter your state of mind. For as long as people have been waging war against each other, armies have used primal drumbeats similar to an intense heartbeat to psyche them up for the coming battle. I think anybody who claims that listening to a certain type of music will never alter your mood in the least are fooling themselves.

However, the fact remains that it is very likely that this girl probably had problems before she ever started listening to emo. Accept it or not, the way that we dress is significant, it conveys a message to others about who we are and what we think about. If your child is wearing all black with band tshirts depicting hatred and sorrow, what are you supposed to think? Granted, I don't know if this is how Hannah dressed, but it is the typical "emo" attire.

The parents may not be completely to blame, but they definitely have to take their share. I simply don't understand how you can see self-inflicted wounds on your daughter's arm and then simply dismiss it as an initiation. If that's what you have to do to be included in a certain group of friends, then those friends are not worth having, and they are definitely people that you want your child to stay away from.

Should emo, metal, or any other abrasive genre be banned? No, but neither should they be dismissed. Talk to your kids, find out how they think and feel. Make sure that they've got the proper outlook, and if they don't, then help them to obtain it. Constant depression and self-mutilation is not a phase, it's a problem.

[N031]

emo does glamousize suicide, though. I know a bunch of lame, emo myspacers writing "suicide is beautiful" everywhere like ****ing morons not knowing shit about death or ever experiencing loss. It really posses me off when I see that.

[Richee]

ZZZombieChomp wrote:
Constant depression and self-mutilation is not a phase, it's a problem.

Thank you

[C1osur3]

xXChimairaXx :
anybody remember a little case with Ozzy and "suicide solution".

kid was listening to it and blew his head off, and everybody wanted Osbourne to go down.

METAL = easy scapegoat. Why not try rap with all their rapin', killin', robbin', and skanky girls floatin around by pools slobberin' on them while they talk fast.

Because that's what they call a double standard. People figure it's safe to target metal bands because that won't 'offend' anyone. Do that to a rap group and you'll be considered racist and ignorant.

[sebbsmith]

Why can't any of you take this seriously?
A girl has died yet you still have to bring in your pathetic and ignorant critisisms into it.
Like most other genres, Emo is there to give it's listeners something to relate to, so they can feel better about themselves and their problems.
This is a sad case of where the opposite has happened.

R.I.P. Hannah.

[Waterboy799]

it's just another fad...and this "attack" on emo is just another excuse to blame something for the death or the general wrongs in today's society.

the funny thing with emo is that, most emo music i've ever heard has never been glamorizing cutting yourself or killing, but lamenting those who do cut themselves and do kill themselves.

then people take that and think "they sing about it so obviously it's cool to do it"

"i've never heard any emo frontman say flat out "i enjoy cutting myself and i will commit suicide in the future" because they'll never do it and they don't condone it. if any music should be blamed for the death of children it's rap...but that's a different story.

blaming music has happened before and i'm positive it won't stop, just leave it alone and let it die down.

[pob-pnuk]

"she told him was an emo initiation ceremony"
her friends or whoever she heard that from are to blame. the bands arent responsible...

[Thrash_Metal]

which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony.

LOL,

does no one else think that particular bit is hilarious?

or am i just sick?

[Rodders]

MCR is not emo. Mineral are emo, and I'm pretty sure no real emo band condones killing themsleves. It's more likely that the girl had issues before the music.

[pie_out_of_hell]

lol
loads of people have put stuff against 'emo' music
emo means emotional
its depressed music or sad music thats the thing about it (not all bands just some)
wether you like it or not shouldnt affect your view on the situation
music doesnt make you want to kill yourself or tell you what to do, you can just get lost in it
i listen to MCR and bullet but i dont cut myself
i listen to nirvana and i dont go on massive stoner sprees
i listen to mötley crue but i dont get all my leather out and nick me mums makeup!
music only becomes a waf of life when you start liveing your own life
not at 13
and also
WTF is that stuff about an 'initiation' thing, the parents shoulda asked round other parents houses
thats just bizzare
i dunno why some people cut themselves but its definatley not just to get in with the scene gang!

[Gee-1]

Rest in peace .

[silent caution]

emo sucks, i cant stand it...but you cant blame the "music" for a suicide..remember when metal was evil and blamed for every school shootin and murder, there is no connection....and im my opinion any one who joked bout the girl's death on here should be banned from the site

[B. Joe]

Ehm.. ok, im not emo hater... nor emo lover, its the same for me... but music is one of the few good things in this world, and i dont think it should be blamed at all.
Besides, as far as I know, being My Chemical Romance emo or not, they dont promote suicide.

[mikko 9119]

I read about that in some British journal, kinda sad about their thoughts about what happens afterwards... it’s sad...

[SL!!!]

Lol, seriously blaming the music?

I mean, first off, this is terrible that she died.

Second, this is awful talk about "emo" because for one thing MCR isn't and emo band, no one f'n knows what one is these days.

Third thing, this is not the first time a suicide has happened listening to music. And i'd say, with a little logic, you could easily see that someone who is already obsessed with self-mutilation and suicide has a problem, the music is something someone puts their own attachments to and use as an ornament to their whole "persona." Suffice to say, this girl was going to take her own life one way or the other and the parents, while i empathize, are merely looking for something to blame.
Th

[concept:one]

Parents are at least partially to blame. Whatever obssession a girl may have with music, at 13 a well brought up kid wouldn't have done something so awful and tragic.

[Shadow914]

yes we know, wow i dont know how many times i've read, emo sucks, and music doesn't make you kill yourself, we all know and have established this, many ppl have come up with good points to back this up, if anything, music saves lives, it doesn't end them, it helps you feel a connection with the artists and since that artists isn't dead, why would you wanna be, unless their music sucked, hehe, i do agree that music can play a part in why someone would off themselves, but it doesnt pull the trigger for you, unless your Fag Out Boy, for you the rules are different, but this is just like catholic preists, many preists touch the kids at churches but only those catholic preists get mention on the news and whatever becuz they want you to belief what they think, this is propaganda plan and simple, a way to make more ppl stray, from rock music and listen to garbage, like emo bands, but still, when Kurt Cobain killed himself they never blamed the music, hell they said they should have seen the signs in his lyrics, but never blamed grunge for it

[xCoilx]

Thrash_Metal wrote:

which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony.


LOL,

does no one else think that particular bit is hilarious?

or am i just sick?

not really,youre just a idiot.

[rocktilludrop]

RIP.
u could balme the music.coz u dont really know why she hanged herself. no suicide note.so mayb the words in sum songs were really what got to her.music is more abt the words to women.they are more emotional. emo is what u call it.n its no good. why have music that brings you down rite. its ment for so much better than that. im not only talkin abt mcr. they not even emo really or thats what they say.
anyway i think its just a kid who misunderstood things, being small n confused i guess.

[PoeticInjustice]

quote]jpgilbert701 wrote:

I feel no sympathy for this girl. Anybody that commits suicide doesn't deserve to be remembered by many people for ending their problems in such a cowardly, selfish way.

That is terribly unfair, you have no idea how she felt, I don't think you have actually say that it is really that cowardly to kill yourself, sure it solves absolutely nothing but some people really cannot help but kill themselves.
And everyone deserves to be remembered regardless if they killed themselves or not, to not to do so is a travesty for any happiness that she may have felt despite the obvious unhappiness that plagued her until the end.

And as a general comment to most people here. I think that it has been said by a few that it is like the blame game when it was pointed at Marilyn Manson for the shootings in Columbine. I mean, obviously music evokes emotions, and obviously she was drawn to this music to try and help her deal with it. A lot of people try to "pretend" to glorify suicide, I mean look at the "goth" culture for example.. Is it really any different?, But they don't actually do it. This girl had problems and I think people are doing a terrible diservice to her memory by some of the utterly disgraceful comments on this page showing an utter lack of feeling towards how this girl felt or how her parents are feeling. You lot are scum.. and I will take this moment to quote some of you
[quote]JackRabbitSlim wrote:

If I had a nickel for everytime a girl named hannah committed suicide after listening to MCR.....I would have one nickel....Thanks Hannah Bond

and

Chevelle454 wrote:

pics or it didn't happen

and this guy really sums up how I feel about above comments and their ilk :

N031 wrote:

Jeez, I never would have thought that this site had such ignorant poeple. A little girl kills herself and all some of you can say is "I'd kill myself too cuz emo music sucks =)"
idiots! Sure, Emo is just whiney punk-wannabe bitches with mics, but that's no reason to make light of a confused girl's suicide.

R.I.P.

Thanks man, that was well put.

I think the moderator should close comments on this article to stop Jackasses making annoying comments. Leave the memory of the girl along..we all know that it's not music that made her feel that her life was undervalued but society. Change society and we'll have a solution.
Ooh p.s Please also don't blame the parents... how do you think they feel at this moment in time? Pretty rough I imagine would be an understatement. They are probably reeling from this tragedy and to blame them is utterly pointless... it is possible they were totally ignorant of her desire to end her life in fact in most cases Parents are ignorant (as in they don't know.. not as in they don't want to know) for example look at the mass suicide in that town in Wales for an example most of the parents there didn't realise. So shut your mouth if you are only going to blame the parents. How ridiculous.
Anyway..that is all for now
Peace everyone x

[PoeticInjustice]

Urh apologies for the mess up on my comment above btw

[SP2991]

...So a genre of music which has been dead for godknows how long.
Is blamed for a girl's suicide?
wth.

Emo music doesnt even exist anymore.
I read this in the The Sun, got me pissed off as they called MCR emo.
I Like MCR, im proud, but they're not emo.
No bands anymore are.
The Sun (and other newspapers) wouldnt know who Emo bands were if they punched them in the face.


Sorry bout my mess up on the last comment.

[say5ss2]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

They are so EMO... Just becuz they say they arnt wont change s***. Do u even know wat metal even is? And for ur information a band wearing black playing guitars with distortion does not make them metal...

[matt-fender]

I feel for the family, however, music does not make a person depressed, it is their mindstate that makes them depressed, the way their life is, perhaps deep mental problems, blaming music for someone commiting suicide is a complete pile of bulls*it. I belive music can enhance thoughts of suicide, but that is the human mind playing tricks on you.... i beleive that the parents should have realised what was going on before hand.....

[blinktbs]

i think that the parents just want someone to blame to make them feel better and this is a serious comment

[say5ss2]

blinktbs wrote:

i think that the parents just want someone to blame to make them feel better and this is a serious comment

+100

[chrisdazzo]

Another example of terrible parenting – parents really need to know what their kids are getting involved in, and this is a wake-up call.

And seriously, I sympathize with the parents and all, but if you don't realize that suicide really isn't glamorous and "cool" as it is supposed to be, you're a ****ing idiot for believing it, and you deserve the consequences.

Killing yourself is killing yourself, no matter how it's spun. Pathetic.

[sebbsmith]

say5ss2 wrote:

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...


They are so EMO... Just becuz they say they arnt wont change s***. Do u even know wat metal even is? And for ur information a band wearing black playing guitars with distortion does not make them metal...

Maybe you should do some research before you poorly attempt to prove someone wrong.
Emo has been dead for about ten years.

[chrisdazzo]

And if you think violence and music can cause people to kill people and become social outcasts, you're an idiot. It's upbringing – nothing less and nothing more.

[guitarman47]

i love how people are just starting to figure stuff like this out

[The_Crowing2113]

That girl is an idiot.

Music doesn't cause suicide. The parents need to accept the fact that there was something wrong, and stop shoving the blame on something else.

[SRX700]

People need to stop scapegoating and and look a bit further to see the root of problems.

[chrismetal86]

Music didn't cause this suicide, Its the girl's(RIP) weak mind which she let get influenced by the whole emo scene of "suicide, life sucks, slit my wrists" ordeal.

[HexaDakota]

Another case of stupid, irresponisble parents refusing to take control of their young, stupid child. It's the parents job to filter out what they think is harmful to their kids. If they thought emo music was so incredibly evil, why did they let their kid listen to it for years and years?

This next generation of kids is going to be the most spoiled rotten, self centered, ignorant, stupid generation America has EVER seen, and it's 100% because of parents not being parents because pop culture tells them they're supposed to "let their kids find themselves."

My dad beat the tar out of me everytime I misbehaved, and I misbehaved a lot. I'm so glad he spanked me, too. I'm a better man because of it. I love my dad. He wouldn't let me listen to horrible music when I was younger either. He lets me listen to whatever I want now, because I've grown up and know better (I'm 20), but when you're young you don't know anything about anything. Parents themselves need to stop watching Dr. Phil and control their kids.

[TheStruction]

I WONT believe that emomusic is so powerful that it can make someone to commit suicide.

[rockfan7]

Dude MCR is one of my favs and I have never once thaught about sucide because of that. If I listen to to Nickleback then it's a difrent story lol. And they just need something to blame because of their loss it's sad yes but don't blame music.

[tempesthero512]

There is no way that music is to blame for a committed suicide. Its completely absurd. People are just finding new ways to blame something thats new or rebellious. It sounds like a new metallica suit because its something new and rebellious. What a joke.

[DopeDanny]

"Bond's father Ray explained that his daughter had had an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony"

CEREMONY!!! WTF!! riiiiight ceremony, God some people need to learn how to manage their children!! ****in shit heads piss me off

[nolson44]

dont blame the music
its not the music that makes you emo
its her own decision
but sorry about the loss
but so what if she was emo its not like the music litterally killed her

[Chop_Suey92]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

Suicidal tendencies of the Emo lifestyle and music is just a stereotype. That girl could have bought into that, and been persuaded to think that suicide was part of the Emo subculture. The only reason suicide is thought to be a part of Emo is because ignorant people make it out to be.
Some of you people are so insensitive when it comes to things such as suicide. You make fun of it and alot of you people go around and taunt kids and make them want to kill themselves. Its those kind of kids that are the weak and the ones that are losers because they feel they have to stomp on someone to make themselves bigger, and doing that makes the smaller person feel hopeless. Believe me, I think the Emo hype is a little dumb, but overall, people are going to be who they want to be.
Its not the kids fault or the parents fault, its the ones who make fun of the "outsider" kid.

[Punkismygod]

oh yeah blame the emos, just like they blame metal music in schoold suicides *sigh*

[ghostofhendrix]

This is bollocks. Lets get this out of the way- I don't like emo music. But if she was going to commit suicide, she was probably unhinged in the first place. How many regular people commit suicide when they listen 2 emo music? no one. Same as the amount of normal people who play GTA then think it would be a good idea to go shoot hookers. At the end of the day, this girl was mentally unstable for whatever reason, and would've done something like this with or without the influence of emo music.

[faac182]

I DON'T FUCKIN UNDERSTAND WHY EVRYONE HATES EMO MUSIC..I'M NOT AN EMO GUY BUT EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS..AND TO ME ONE OF THE BEST TYPES OF MUSIC..
and i think emo music wasn´t the cause of her suicide
my chemical romance is not even an emo band, nmore like a pop rock band that i hate..
i think their parents are the one to blame cause they (as almost all parents) never ever cared about teenagers problems so sometime teenagers tend to kill themselves..
R.I.P. HANNAH

[nolson44]

faac182 wrote:

I DON'T FUCKIN UNDERSTAND WHY EVRYONE HATES EMO MUSIC..I'M NOT AN EMO GUY BUT EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS..AND TO ME ONE OF THE BEST TYPES OF MUSIC..
and i think emo music wasn´t the cause of her suicide
my chemical romance is not even an emo band, nmore like a pop rock band that i hate..
i think their parents are the one to blame cause they (as almost all parents) never ever cared about teenagers problems so sometime teenagers tend to kill themselves..
R.I.P. HANNAH

your exactly right its her parents fault and the people who make fun of her
shes emo because she has some problems with her life and making fun of her doesnt help

[alkaline388]

"We came home and found our son lying dead on his bed of a gun shot wound. He had is headphones on and there was an Ozzy record on the turn table. So we called our lawyer..."
-Triumph of The Swill, Dead Kennedys

Not the best DK song, but Jello's sarcasm is obvious in this one. Music shouldn't be blamed for suicide...even if it is My Chemical Romance...

[Macabre_Turtle]

This would make so much more sense if MCR hadn't spoken out against suicide on many occasion.

[SickMetal]

That's terrible.

Obviously this kid had problems or emotional instability at some level. As much as I think the music sucks, blaming a kind of music is absurd. Most people who enjoy this music do exactly that...enjoy it. It's not my place to criticize someone for what they like to listen to, hell, maybe it helps these people deal with today's variety of daily bullshit. I listen to metal so it'd be hypocritical for me to say emo killed the kid, whereas tons of people say the same about metal music. Perhaps it is reasonable to point out that suicide's prevalence in emo lyrics and such could give unstable kids bad ideas, the same way a crazy person listening to Deicide would sacrifice to Satan or something. This is the person's fault and problem, not the music. If it isn't music, it'd be movies or video games or books or whatever. They'll always be something, it's not "emo's fault."

[tempesthero512]

i do feel bad for the parents, but blaming it on music? People jsut find a new way to blame something thats new or rebellious. Its a joke. Blame it on the teddie bears.

[Darth_MaVeRiCk]

in these cases it's very easy to blame music...

[VORTEX3333]

people shouldn't blame music for people suicides because the music didn't tell her to kill herself, my resepts to the family in question and r.i.p hannah

[xxxFMDxxx]

I dont think it was the cause of death, its just msuic, like I dont remember any cases like this where the band actually came out as the reason (if there is I would like read about it). The parents should have been paying attention to what there daughter might have been going through. I also wish emo bashing would stop because its stupid.
R.I.P Hannah

[VORTEX3333]

respects i mean

[Vanox_1]

faac182 :
I DON'T FUCKIN UNDERSTAND WHY EVRYONE HATES EMO MUSIC..I'M NOT AN EMO GUY BUT EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS..AND TO ME ONE OF THE BEST TYPES OF MUSIC..
and i think emo music wasn´t the cause of her suicide
my chemical romance is not even an emo band, nmore like a pop rock band that i hate..
i think their parents are the one to blame cause they (as almost all parents) never ever cared about teenagers problems so sometime teenagers tend to kill themselves..
R.I.P. HANNAH

Dude, what are you 12? "Parents are stupid!!!" Seriously? Grow a pair. Parents know exactly what their kids are going through cuz they did it themselves once. And I have a question about how "EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS" What? (Good spelling by the way) Emo music is about "My girlfriend broke up with me so I'm gonna go cry and write 3 albums about it". It aint happy shit. Emo music may not be the cause of her suicide but it probably didn't help.

[JimiOwnsYou21]

I may hate emo music, but you can't blame it for anyone's suicide. It's not the music's fault for creating stupid people (not saying she's stupid, but the people who "glamorize" suicide).

It's the same as blaming video games, tv, and movies for violence in real-life. You can't blame those forms of entertainment just because they have violent content in a vast majority of the selections of movies, tv, etc. It's not the fault of the object, but the fault of the people.

Stop blaming stupid shit on forms of entertainment. it's retarded.

[poona]

The glamour of suicide...? I don't think MCR ever sang songs that portrayed suicide in a 'glamourous' light.

[starzsp]

Ok people lisen up this is what i've got to say, i dont care if you don't like it. But its the truth.

Emo is screwed up, now b4 you argue STOP

I WAS AN EMO - i dressed emo and listened to emo music but it was a phase, it soon snapped out of it

But emo is just shit. Firstly " Emo " describes music thats sad or about suicide, SNAP ! isent alot of music about sad things and love ?

This girl Hannah is yet another victim of pointless teenage angst, it happens to all teenagers, some of them take it to far because they are insucure.BUT most of them are attention seeking little prats who need to grow up.

Now if youre going to argue you can go ahead and defend emos saying that they are misunderstood and have problems. HOLD UP !

1. Everyone has problems, they dont become emos
2. Everyone gets sad now and again
3. Emo culture is a waste of time, many kids just grow out of it but some dont.

thats all i wanted to say, emo sucks, kids take it to far, some slapping is in order from their friends, oh and fitting bands into lots of different genres especially emo just ****s things up :/

[Paisa]

Its Funny Cuz everytime i go to Hot Topic i see a book that says "My Chemical Romance: This Band Will Save Your Life!" hahaha how ironic

anyways, R.I.P. Hannah

[schecter_r0cker]

Id really really really like to post something Anti-emo here, but last time I did that I was banned for 6 months, so

But on a sadder note

RIP Hannah Bond

[nolson44]

Vanox_1 wrote:

faac182 :
I DON'T FUCKIN UNDERSTAND WHY EVRYONE HATES EMO MUSIC..I'M NOT AN EMO GUY BUT EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS..AND TO ME ONE OF THE BEST TYPES OF MUSIC..
and i think emo music wasn´t the cause of her suicide
my chemical romance is not even an emo band, nmore like a pop rock band that i hate..
i think their parents are the one to blame cause they (as almost all parents) never ever cared about teenagers problems so sometime teenagers tend to kill themselves..
R.I.P. HANNAH


Dude, what are you 12? "Parents are stupid!!!" Seriously? Grow a pair. Parents know exactly what their kids are going through cuz they did it themselves once. And I have a question about how "EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS" What? (Good spelling by the way) Emo music is about "My girlfriend broke up with me so I'm gonna go cry and write 3 albums about it". It aint happy shit. Emo music may not be the cause of her suicide but it probably didn't help.

emo music is a form of expression on the things that suck in life
this music is one i can relate to rather that F"ed up rap where all the musics is about is how all women are *****s and that everyguy has banged a girl and then writes a song about it
RAP SUCKS
emo is expression

[Rainmaker27]

R.I.P. This wouldn't happen if people just listened to metal instead...

[starzsp]

nolson44 wrote:

faac182 wrote:

I DON'T FUCKIN UNDERSTAND WHY EVRYONE HATES EMO MUSIC..I'M NOT AN EMO GUY BUT EMO MUSIC IS THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES SOME CONFORT AND HAPPINESS..AND TO ME ONE OF THE BEST TYPES OF MUSIC..
and i think emo music wasn´t the cause of her suicide
my chemical romance is not even an emo band, nmore like a pop rock band that i hate..
i think their parents are the one to blame cause they (as almost all parents) never ever cared about teenagers problems so sometime teenagers tend to kill themselves..
R.I.P. HANNAH
your exactly right its her parents fault and the people who make fun of her
shes emo because she has some problems with her life and making fun of her doesnt help

yes but she doesnt have to be bloody well emo does she ?, being emo invites teasing, happens everywhere someone is different, dont want teased, dont be emo.

[Captain Insano]

So her parents thought an emo self-harm inatiation was normal? Are they sane?

[The_Seventh_Sin]

2 words: black metal

although its evil enough to kill....at least you can laugh at urself

i hate emo

[Jacko-Twisted]

all this stuff about the poor girl's parents being bad and everytihng is pretty bad in its self. yeah true emo music didnt kill her (although it doesnt help) but her parents didnt put the idea of kiiling herself in her head, blaming the parents is the same as blaming the music. she must have had suicidal tendancies before hand and the idealism of "blessed oblivion" and musical "martyrdom" portyaed through some aspects (not all) of emo music, and the emo fashion exacerbated the mental stability of the girl. there is no evidnece of their being bad parenting at all, if there wasshe would let them know with a suicide note or something blaming her deaths on them, but no, this just seems like a fanatical girl who's obsession with her music preferances and bands went drastically too far.

[Shread_6009]

They did the same thing with ozzy osbourne and marylin manson.

they blamed suicides and murders and music on them, and it turns out they werent even fans of the artists. music does not cause suicides. since a child gets "programmed" by the events around them, and they're around their parents 90 % of the time, maybe the parents had something to do with their depression.

in any case, the fact that emo openley talks about suicide cant have helped. at least in the 80's, when they talked about suicide ( "fade to black", "suicide note parts 1 & 2 etc.) it was generally negative. every thing about this music is crap.

and to finish, im sorry about what happened to the girl. the whole situation is messed up, R.I.P.

[InLimbo11]

it probably wasnt the music, just the culture, I mean its a glamorisation of depression which is never good, a lot of artists write depressing music as a method of releasing all the shit that life brings, or because it gives the music edge e.g artists like Smog, Entrance -Electro-shock blues era- Eels but they write about death and more gritty topics. While many emo bands claim not to be emo, its just hypocrisy as whether they like it or not they write music that appeals to that certain band of people, and about rather trivial things in comparison with more philosophical meditations on what can called depressing topics by other bands. Quoting ST Augustine "When a person becomes part of a crowd, he descends several rungs down the ladder of civilisation", it isnt the music that made it worse, its simply the fad.
While stereotyping genres is bad, (I often see it on here about hip-hop, where if you do go underground a bit, it is much better), and there are exceptions there is a point where obssessionalism takes over and rational thought is lost.

[stueey]

this topic angers me. I know many ppl who have listened to "emo" music, and have come out happy ppl. 99% of bands dont support selfharm, 1% being death/blackmetal. the only reason emo bands make emo music is coz its a productive outlet.

This is a ****ed up subject. And i disagree with UG for putting this up in a forum where there are alot of twats that hate "emo" music.

[mychem00]

okay first of all. my chemical romance is not"emo". what the **** is "emo" in the first place. its a word that gets thrown around because people have strong emotions towards something. because they get a little emotional. who doesnt get a little emotional. every single ****er who cries because they are having a bad day, you all must be emo right? this is so ****ing retarded. i feel for the family. suicide is never a good thing. i could never bear to bury my cild. but music does not force them to it. sort of like mcdonalds does not force you to eat there two meals a day and become a tub of lard. parents especially should use discretion. if you notice something wrong fix the ****ing problem. dont push your problems on the lives of others. my chemical romance are artists. they express there emotions in an attempt to relate to others and show there is better ways then ending it all. they have said it themselves. sure there music is on the darker side. but lets see if we are going to attack them for that who is gonna stand before black sabbath and criticize them for there mention of satan. this is ****ing shit. take are of your own problems. dont blame it on others... long live my chemical romance!

[jplay5]

my chemical romance has nothing to do with it. if a girl is so psychologically screwed up that she is going to kill herself, music plays no role. And mcr really doesn't glamourize suicide, that's just bullshit. They did this will columbine and marylin manson,

who the **** is retarted enough to believe that music is what makes people go psychologically insane

[Dumebuggy]

Before I may my comment, I'll say I'm sorry about what happened to her. R.I.P. Okay... my comment is... This is RETARDED!!! People blame suicides and other misbehaviors (I'm not calling suicide a misbehavior) on things that are easy to blame. Things such as the whole metal/emo/grunge/screamo genre of music, video games, movies or anything else easy to blame for these incidents. What people should be doing is researching into other bad things that are happening in the children's lives. This could be abuse, bullying, or any other cause of a sudden decrease in self esteem. They don't do this. Instead they blame the deaths on things that don't cause harm. Another example of this is at Virginia Tech, they immediately blamed video games for the act of violence, instead of looking into if the shooter had bullying problems or problems at home. And even if the parents said she had a perfect life, doesn't mean it. I mean, what parent is gonna say that they abused their child to the point that they commit suicide? I just had to get that off of my chest.

R.I.P. Heather

[Dumebuggy]

EDIT:
R.I.P. Hannah

[DuffMcKagan7179]

metallicaforevr wrote:

I just want to say, FUCK YOU EMO MUSIC!
now you all know what it feels like being told your music assists suicide, just like they blamed metal music for columbine and other school shootings. kind of stupid right? maybe if these "emo" bands didnt fully promote hatred of ones life and parents, and borderline encourage self inflicted pain there would be a lot more happy people around here.

However i am really sorry to hear this young child felt that taking her own life was the route to take.

Valid point. Metal had to deal with this kind of thing (though on a much, much larger scale, and multiple times) in order to gain a shred of respect, which has long since been lost. However, blaming music of any kind for behavior and, more specifically, deaths, is a slippery slope. If we stand aside and allow the next generation of Tipper Gore and the PMRC to take the heat for this, we may as well just forget the trials Priest and Sabbath endured under equally unreasonable circumstances. It's a choice the metal community has to make: stand by the music we hate, like a watching over a younger sibling, or step out of the way and let the emo bands be torn to pieces over an issue we've dealt with (and conquered) before.

[legrille]

at least metal wasnt blamed this time

[stueey]

Paisa wrote:

Its Funny Cuz everytime i go to Hot Topic i see a book that says "My Chemical Romance: This Band Will Save Your Life!" hahaha how ironic

anyways, R.I.P. Hannah

you are full of shit. you should actually LISTEN to their music. its theatrical. and if u watch thier dvd documentary thing, its pretty much a step by step dairy of them goin from nothing to becoming massive. and for all you stupid bellends that say their lead guitarist is shit, you try writing music thats any good. and for all those who say "its all about advertising", how about writing something that even approachable to an record label.

this is coming from some1 who listens to dub-step, DnB, rhythm nd blues, blues, metal, hardcore, jazz, fusion, hip-hop, anything u throw at me. most of u n00bs are metalheads anyway :/

[jimmyhotpants]

Paisa wrote:

Its Funny Cuz everytime i go to Hot Topic i see a book that says "My Chemical Romance: This Band Will Save Your Life!" hahaha how ironic

anyways, R.I.P. Hannah

i lol'd

[DuffMcKagan7179]

DreamTheater09 wrote:

thelovingdead wrote:

either: one less idiot in the world,

or: there are many other issues that probably played a part and that are going to be completely overlooked.


Exactly!

p.s. Green Day sucks balls

kill ur self...just do us all a favor
how the hell did green day get involved in this?! ****in UG idiots always bring up the bands they dont like into any article. just go kill urself

anyway, this is always terible when something like this happens. the music may be part to blame, but not so much the music more than how the children let the music take over there life. i used to listen to emo music, but u never saw me with cut wrists or tryin to kill myself. i knew where the music ended and real life started. and of course, i also blame the parents for not realizing something like this, even after past occurances of self harm. so stop blaming the music as a whole...wheither u like it or not. emo may be shit, but its music none the less. relize the true problem (kids and the parents) and fix THAT problem...
R.I.P. Hannah...u may have made a stupid decission, but i have nothing against you.

LinkinParkOakle wrote:

Shaggy7935 wrote:

maybe this will start endin g this stupid emo trend...

EMOS---KEEP HANGING YOURSELVES!

thnx


LMFAO!!! Mad funny! +1

both of you, on the other hand, should kill urself as well.
please and thank you

Idea: Why don't we stop telling each other to kill themself, and instead jail all the hypocrites? Way to make a solid argument, dreamtheater09. You don't deserve that band's name.

[HomerJay45]

If it was the fault of emo or My Chemical Romance there would be a large number of teens taking their own lives. I am pretty sure she is not the only fan of MCR. It is easier for people to blame something they don't like or don't understand and/or relate to. We as a society need to open our eyes and realize there is a bigger issue than the music we listen to, video games we play, or the T.V. shows we watch. Let’s take a look at this poor girls’ parents, did they get her some counseling after they found out about her self-harm incident?

[kryptonite22]

firstly, its obviously a terrible tragedy.

but secondly, i think a lot of popele in this world need to read up on 'emo'. this girl was 13 years old, she thought cutting your wrists was some kind of initiation. i mean, come on. did this happen in the 80s? not that im aware of, and emo was around then.

so-called emo music (a debatable term in itself) is not to blame for this poor girls death. the media, for latching onto the term and glorifying it and then attempting to destory it, are to blame. the kids who have blindly accepted this ridiculous 'truth' are to blame. the kids who told her that she should cut her wrists are to blame. at the root of all this is ignorance. people just do not know what they think they know. end of.

[fire within]

It is a shame that she killed herself, but when you are a parent it is hard to deal with things like that. I've seen it with my brother, he thinks it is all cool to hate and hurt himself and wish himself dead with his "emo" pals and to make 13-14 year olds to see the difference between reality and music. Not all the blame can be put on the parents but everyone can make mistakes.

[vo2oad]

you are full of shit. you should actually LISTEN to their music. its theatrical. and if u watch thier dvd documentary thing, its pretty much a step by step dairy of them goin from nothing to becoming massive. and for all you stupid bellends that say their lead guitarist is shit, you try writing music thats any good. and for all those who say "its all about advertising", how about writing something that even approachable to an record label.

this is coming from some1 who listens to dub-step, DnB, rhythm nd blues, blues, metal, hardcore, jazz, fusion, hip-hop, anything u throw at me. most of u n00bs are metalheads anyway :/

Thats completely true... Everyone on this site talks a bunch of crap about bands but really, those bands are out there making money while the people insulting them are sitting at home playing the same sweep picking scale and studying shit that's not gonna make them famous. Creativity makes people famous, not playing the same scale over and over

[I'MNOOPID]

Bout friggin time emo gets a S*** kicking from the media and lay off the metals heads for once

\m/ Up the Irons \m/

[papercuteye]

doesn't surprise me that people would think suicide and emo a fashion. But don't blame music for anything; Out of all respect for music. Even though emo sucks balls

[DuffMcKagan7179]

vo2oad wrote:

you are full of shit. you should actually LISTEN to their music. its theatrical. and if u watch thier dvd documentary thing, its pretty much a step by step dairy of them goin from nothing to becoming massive. and for all you stupid bellends that say their lead guitarist is shit, you try writing music thats any good. and for all those who say "its all about advertising", how about writing something that even approachable to an record label.

this is coming from some1 who listens to dub-step, DnB, rhythm nd blues, blues, metal, hardcore, jazz, fusion, hip-hop, anything u throw at me. most of u n00bs are metalheads anyway :/




Thats completely true... Everyone on this site talks a bunch of crap about bands but really, those bands are out there making money while the people insulting them are sitting at home playing the same sweep picking scale and studying shit that's not gonna make them famous. Creativity makes people famous, not playing the same scale over and over

I beg to differ. 3-chord songs are obscenely popular. Meanwhile, the truly creative acts, such as Symphony X and a lot of underground bands, are stuck in obscurity.

[silent_suicide]

Good god, i got 1/4 of the way down these comments nd wanted to hit half of you guys

Firstly - i know at least 3 guys who were all really close friends with Hannah, nd this has hit them hard, she is someone they will never forget, this has affected them hugely

secondly - stop slagging off emo music on here. What brings us to this website? the fact that we all play guitar, not because we wanna say "look, my music's better than yours, therefore yours suks"

thirdly - suicide, in emo's or not, is a serious matter. We can look for excuses, but at the end of the day, a 13 year old has killed herself. I don't believe in god, but we can all wish her family help to get them through this time, and we can also wish that wherever she is now, she's ok.

all u slagging off emo music or emo's, u deserve to die yourselves

[guitaringsailor]

R.I.P hannah...

Once again the music is being blamed, whenever has a band actually said anything about suicide it's stupid fans that do that stuff they mentioned. This is probably the parents who simply can't stand the sorrow and now tries to blame somebody...

[silent_suicide]

nd yes, i have realised my name is a bit ironic

[SeanHart213]

well the parents do need to blame it on something. at least it wasn't Industrial Goth or Death Metal this time. i'm sure the unpopular genres of music will all get their fair share of accusations.

can't wait to see someone blame Prog-Metal on something. i can see it now: Russell Allen brainwashes teens to "Set The World Afire"

things like this make me afraid to go out and entertain people with music.

[goal91]

this probably has been said already, but if anything "emo" is to be blamed it's the emo culture.
the music is an expression of how the artist feels (or wants the audience to think that's how the feel...) the glamourous side of suicide is more crafted by the "emo people" themselves and not so much the bands. not to mention that to take something that seriously and not understand the consequences (or this is what she really wanted) she must not have been 100% stable. it's funny how the parents are so quick to blame the music and not investigate more into her personal life, such as love relationships, bullying, teasing, isolation ect... really it's just a scapegoat. and the slight possibility that parents are taking this as an opportunity to exploit the tragedy and place the blame on MCR to get some easy cash. but by no means am i saying that's their objective; just throwing it out there. this is a bit ridiculous though. imagine if every time a rape was commited, a rap artist was blamed for it? if someone is that influenced by something as simple as song lyrics, they obviously aren't completely sane. it's one thing to believe what you are told, but to think "oh boy, MCR says it's cool to kill myself! i'm gonna do it!" is absolutely ridiculous. especially because i checked most of their lyrics and couldn't find anything that blatantly condoned suicide in a delightful manner. and finally: if the parents were aware of the self-inflicted pain beforehand, how can they possibly blame it on a band for her suicide? when they felt that it was influencing her to do harmful things to herself, they should have a) kept a closer eye on her and how her music influenced her and/or b) taken her to see a therapist. it's the parents' role to care for their child and by taking no action after finding something as drastic as "a self-destructive emo initiation ceremony" they are most certainly responsible for part of this.

NOTE: to the people saying that "emos" sometimes commit suicide for attention, how can that possibly make sense? if they wanted attention, they would do something absurd to stand out or cause drama of some sort. what good would attention do for them if they weren't alive to have it? i'm no doctor or therapist, but i'm pretty sure that kids are not out there killing themselves so everyone in the town knows their name. it's probably more on the side of getting so much negative attention from others that they lost all respect for themselves.

anyway, RIP hannah bond.
who knows what was really going on in your mind and i'm sorry for what was plagueing you so badly to have you resort to this.

[DonCorleone72]

for the parents to blame anyone but themselves is selfish denial. as parents, they are responsible for their child, and they obviously failed in some way.

secondly, emo music sucks anyway (as well as everything else "emo"), so i dont care if it gets blamed. the only reason i blame the parents is because they blame music, which is not at fault here

[papercuteye]

so glad its not the metal being blamed this time also

Plus stop defending the good name of Emo as well fagets.
you sound so ridiculous

[flame843]

MCR aren't emo...

and this is really just a rehash of the "blame metal for suicide and murder" bandwagon of the eighties. It's nothing suprising.

[vo2oad]

I beg to differ. 3-chord songs are obscenely popular. Meanwhile, the truly creative acts, such as Symphony X and a lot of underground bands, are stuck in obscurity.

Atleast they can use those "3" chords to make different songs unique, rather than having to play as many notes as they can to make themselves "stand out". Nobody wants to listen to that, that's why nobody cares about it. If I wanted to hear that I'll take a normal song and speed it up 10x

[RocksAwakening5]

Its the parents fualt all and all. Noone seems to pay attention to their kids in this generation.

[papercuteye]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW ITS THE PARENTS FAULT!!??
You idiots are just as ****ed, dumbfounded, and looking for an easy target just like the parents are

[tbone963]

Spay wrote:

-facepalm-

Seriously? Holy ****ing shit...

Kids today are so...God...I can't even think of a word. This is so freaking...son of bitch. Seriously, are kids today that big a slave to the mainstream and so disillusioned that they can't see through the romantisized images with their common sense. It's insane.

I guess, if one cool kid jumped off a bridge, would you do it?

I guess the answer is now "Yes"

Amen. i dont know what the world is coming to besides maybe an end

[goldmember1217]

the1 wrote:

Wow

MCR write anti suicide songs like Headfirst for Halos.
Teenagers is about how they don't understand the whole emo culture following them.

Parents need to stop looking for scapegoats. MCR is just pop rock.

+1

RIP, I suppose.

[_xXBehemothXx_]

Personally, I don't think My Chemical Romance had anything to do with it.

[ChemyVamp]

LMAO
I love how immature can the UG members be!

R.I.P. Hannah

[ptr362]

This is why I generally hate the Emo trend... some people get swept away by it and just take it too far. Too be fair, there is definitely a lot of negative imagery floating around the genre that doesn't do the genre any favours.

I remember the days of dealing with my issues by listening to Korn! I use to want to die but i'm proud that i never made any attempt at it...

[carlo754]

Look, Emo music was not the cause of suicide, I dont hate Emos, but they are some ****in posers, and emo guitarists are shit.
I think Its a rae case of an obsession with suicide

[portnoywannabe]

This forum should just end now, nobody really wants all these conflicting opinions and hate do they? So a girl killed herself, does that only trouble us because it happened in our back yard? Nobody here care about all the other sick and dying people away from home? of course not, she was an insignifigant grain of sand as is every person on here including me, so...I humbley suggest that we move on and enjoy our lives and if someone feels that life is so bad that they want to end it, thats their loss...as far as the emo thing goes...whatever happened to "CRAZY"? xxxpeace out brothers and sistersxxx

[Polaris666]

Kazue00 wrote:

Emo music sucks worse than any music ever created by man, however i would not blame it on the music for the kids death, i believe it was completely the parents fault.

It's sad that after this whole article, you're more concerned in the fact My Chemical Romance is "metal." I could say I'm Britney Spears, does that make it anymore true?

[rancidryan]

thats a shame only thirteen, i dont like the band ut i feel for them when a fan kills them self and your musics to balme it must be heart wrenching, it nearly destroyed judas preist but that was more serious

[Polaris666]

quoted the wrong one

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

[TriKef]

(Define "EMO") Emo music and their lyrics aren't as bad as we heard in the past or in other styles. AX7 [metal/punk band] had
"slit my wrist, take the pain away
slit my throat, everyones to blame"
off their very first album "Sound of the Seventh Trumphent" ("Turn the Other Way" is a good song still, if you can understand the screaming)
But yeah, bands like Senses Fail who have death or killing in their songs ("From Deapths of Dreams" EP-Free Falling Without a Parachute) gives partcle blame to the scene.
Still, the parents need to look at their life as well and not blame everything on the music because sucide is an escape from pain and misery and EVERYONE has a part to it. (My Chemical Romance lyrics aren't as bad compare to other bands)

[Zero111]

this article makes me ashamed of the world we live in.
and some of the comments also make me ashamed.
god damn I hate america.

[vo2oad]

Oh, and for all of you saying you hate the emo trend, why? Theres no such thing as "emo" really. ALL music is EMOTIONAL. You cannot deny that, theres just different levels. The whole thing is just stupid cause people just go along with what others think. Tell me 1 band thats music is not emotional

[J.Priest]

If your going to commit suicide for a band, it shouldn't be MCR, it should be somthing more metal, like Slayer. If you commit suicide because you love Slayer, people would just call you a normal Slayer fan. Yes, I love Slayer. Would I die for Jeff, Kerry, Tom, or Dave.....no. But this is sad. She didn't need to die.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

This is why emo must die. Its taken the life of people by convincing them, hey kids, suicide and cutting yourself is cool!

I feel sorry for this family, and the deceased, so young, she could have had a good life ahead of her. Maybe though, this will help it be publicly condemned, ending its reign of shitty music on the radio.

Emo is probably just another music trend, like hair metal was in the 80s and grunge was in the 90s, this, however, is the worst one so far. Hopefully it will die soon.

[TriKef]

Srry for repost but, didn't Marilyn Manson get in trouble for the same thing?

[kdcisgod]

i can almost guarantee that "emo music" is not the soul reason for this suicide

[MCRkid22]

Cacophonic wrote:

My Chemical Romance. Lulz.

I believe the emo bands should be the ones killing themselves. We'd have a lot less poser guitarists running around if it happened like that.

R.I.P. Hannah.

OY!

MCR guitar is pretty good. I do admit, a lot of their lyrics could just be happier, and despite my screenname, i'm a wicked happy kid. I don't think music is to blame, but I don't blame the parents for grasping at straws like this. Nobody blames rap music for murder.

[MCRkid22]

kdcisgod wrote:

i can almost guarantee that "emo music" is not the soul reason for this suicide

well yeah it might not be, but the parents need something to blame.

[MCRkid22]

TriKef wrote:

Srry for repost but, didn't Marilyn Manson get in trouble for the same thing?

kinda. He got blamed for columbine, that issue with the students bringing guns and bombs to the school. He gets blamed for everything. I miss the days when people got blamed for their decisions.

[MCRkid22]

Zero111 wrote:

this article makes me ashamed of the world we live in.
and some of the comments also make me ashamed.
god damn I hate america.

Then do us all a favor, and get the **** out. Honestly, nobody likes a whiner. YOu don't like it here? Cross the border the other way.

[uhh_me?]

checked. banned.

as i said earlier: ANYONE THAT MOCKS HER DEATH OR BASHES EMO WILL BE BANNED.

[lolcats]

^Dang.

[The Two]

wait wait wait so if your kid committed suicide the first thing you would look at wounldnt be your job as a parent her friends or just her life in general it must b the fault of the music she listened too i mean cause music is just evil right? now i hate emo but i mean this is kinda like the blame game here

[mrfinkle213]

Hold on.
Free will anyone?

She listened to My Chemical Romance?
She deserved it.

[x_hud]

I think this girls mom is just trying to place the blame somewhere to find closure, and unfortunatley on My chemical romance, which may I add is not an emo band. Read into it, look it up on here guys, the vocalist, Gerard Way has stated his feelings about the band being called emo. People don't even get all the facts before calling bands a genre.

It is unfortunate that this girl took her life, but I do not believe blaming an artist for it is the right course of action,

[x_hud]

you people.

[x_hud]

disgust me.

[Rock'n'Roller]

when exactly was it that "Emo" started being associated with this suicide bollocks?
was it just people stereotyping them and the emo youth of today were blinded with these stereotypes?
it most likely was
they're to blame
not the music
besides the imagery that comes with most Heavy Metal bands would probably encourage us to go round killing people and stuffing maggots up people rectum

i've forgotten my point

[shotgunjoe]

1. My Chemical Romance suck anyway.
2. Proper emo music (Midwest stuff, early 90s) doesn't suck.
3. Steve Reich is a genius.

[TheBax]

every parent thinks the same thing about the next generation's music. my mom's parents said Eddie Van Halen and Guns N' Roses were "DEVIL MUSIC!". And didn't some old people say, i think it was, Judas Preist had subliminal messages that made 2 teenagers kill themselves. people are just scared of what they don't understand.

[quote=Red33]Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.[/quote]

+1

[borntobooze27]

it's the damn kid's own fault. people are responsible for their own actions. (also my dad would've whooped my ass if he seen me dressing like some of these emo idiots do nowadays. they make black look bad for ****s sake, why couldn't they have picked some other ****in color like brown or green or somethin)

[nolson44]

all this has done is begun an emo bashing fest
if it wasnt for the monitor who wont allow it
weed all be saying that emos should kill themselves
IM EMO im who i am because of things that have happened to me
and besides MCR isnt emo and there is no way that music can infulence you into killing yourself
music is a form of expression not an order for troubled teens to commit suicide this isnt funny at all
Rip hannah

[WeeCal787]

firstly im terribly sorry for the parents RIP Hannah BonD. i dont mind emo music but i admit that "dark music" (for use of a better word) can lead to depression but suicide is fairly common in teenagers (someone even took an overdose today in my school in attempting to do so, AND HE WAS FAR FROM EMO) but i blame the websites and stuff like that for her suicide. what did you expect if she was treating emo as some sort of cult and cutting her wrists. i see emo as a fashion and a music genre, and i have nothing wrong with it. its the people like this girl that need help. but at the end of the day you can put the blame on anything or anyone but it won't bring her back. i think people like this girl need help and should get it as soon as possible RIP Hannah Bond p.s **** you mrfinkle213, she did not deserve to die, she was not osama bin ****in laden and also we should stop being prejudice to these people, they just need help

[MordancyRhythm]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

-1... and lmfao...

[Brain Stew]

hobo467 wrote:

R.I.P.

I am not touching this article with a hundred-foot pole. One thing I will add, however, is about Gerard Way's comment about emo. That was said only to save his band's reputation. If he's insulting bands like Minor Threat and Rites of Spring, then he's basically insulting most of his friends' influences i.e. Thursday and other New Jersey bands. In short, this is tragic, MCR makes catchy, popular music that is not true emo in any way, and Gerard Way is a completely idiotic douche.

don't you ever call minor threat emo again, have you ever listened to them, probably not. they are THE most revolutionary band in Punk music history

and stop blaming the media for your bad parenting!!! it is not GTA's fault your son is a murderer, and it isnt MCR's fault your daughter killed herself, it your's, the parent's fault

[spardasoul]

i dunno if its the music thats responsible, but just the modern emo culture listening to it, they're the ones who take the piss out of depressed and suicidal people by acting like there problems are the same as theres when really there just arrogant little teenagers, cuz if they were really depressed they wouldnt be sitting on myspace, facebook etc asking people to comment there stupid pictures every 15 seconds (sorry had to throw that last part in)

[Jondy]

great now emo bands will feel their existence is vindicated, they're like true outcasts now, because they've been officially blamed for (sadly) typical teenage behavior.

[EZLN libertad]

all jokes aside, STOP BLAMING MUSIC FOR SHIT

metal often gets blamed for shit, and the metal community fights back, and now emo's getting blamed, people are attacking them, while i absolutely hate emo, music is nothing compared to the surroundings and the way you are brought up

[lzrdsixsix6]

Jondy wrote:

great now emo bands will feel their existence is vindicated, they're like true outcasts now, because they've been officially blamed for (sadly) typical teenage behavior.

typical teenage behavior??

i think not

[mosh_face]

why do people think they need to latch on to a subculture or identity and then follow it until they realize they arent happy or they just die? the parents should have realized that anyone that identifies with a subculture like "emo" is going to be completely ****ed up. i would have stressed the importance of doing what actually satisfies you and makes you happy. most people my age need to figure out that fitting into a narrowly defined group will not make you happy

[deadlyMETAL]

Poor thing....

Hope she finds rest in the afterlife--whatever problems she had are hopefully over now.

[Danejerez]

Hmm, as much fun as it is to blame the music I think the blame lies more in the "emo" subculture. The girl was cutting herself in order to be "initiated" and had pictures of bleeding girls on her wall. I know people like that and it's the subculture that's the big problem. It disgusts me that the parents would allow their child become like this in the first place. I mean, they knew about her cutting before this and they just let it go. That's just sick.

[qotsa1998]

This is really sad. Suicide is serious, as is self-mutilation. But when you blame music for causing these things, thats just wrong. Some people might have an obsession with emo music or culture, but thats not nearly as bad IMO as the obsession some people have with hating them and constantly blaming them any time something bad happens to someone like this. IMO, "Gangsta" rap does the same thing with drugs, prostitution, crime, and a love of money. Next time a kid robs a store, blame it on the music and see how far that goes. R.I.P. Hannah. Sad to see anyone go like this.

[mdlarry7]

This is the most retarded thing ever, "emo" music is blamed for the death of this girl. First of all, my chemical romance advocates the helping of a friend in need who is feeling suicidal, they in no way support it. You people are sick going along with this. "Emo" is the most retarded genre classification ever. There are no grounds for a band to be called emo. All bands express emotion through there music in different styles. First of all, how can you judge someone for their form expression. Second of all, how can you blame music for someone committing suicide. I apologize to the family for their loss, but to blame her death on the "emo" genre is absolutely absurd. If someone wants to argue with me, I will gladly do so.

[nolson44]

EZLN libertad wrote:

all jokes aside, STOP BLAMING MUSIC FOR SHIT

metal often gets blamed for shit, and the metal community fights back, and now emo's getting blamed, people are attacking them, while i absolutely hate emo, music is nothing compared to the surroundings and the way you are brought up

may i congratulate you sir on being the only down to earth person hear
im emo and you hate emo
two different people with two different styles
completly same opinion
music doesnt infuluence you into doing things
think of what rap would do
you would have lk 4 rape cases everyday
gunfights
murders
music doesnt infuluenc you
people are stupid

[qotsa1998]

Sorry for the double post, but cutting yourself and calling it "emo initiation" is a sign that something is wrong. Why the parents didnt see that is beyond me, but they should have.

[stradivari310]

cthuludawn21 wrote:

yes. the girl killed her self because Gerard Way infected her brain and caused her to do malicious things. it couldn't POSSIBLY be that the girl herself or, god forbid, her parents, could be to blame.

+1
I feel horrible about it, but 99.99999% of people who listen to so-called "emo" (which isn't even real emo anyway) aren't suicidal.

[elekguit]

Face it, people put the blame on music and video games when they don't want to consider themselves being the blame.

[timmymaines]

come the hell on!!! i hate it when someone kills them self or someone else and the media is too blame...it pisses me off !!! no ones to blame but the damn parents i dont know the girl but im guessing she need attention or something and her parents never gave her what she needed soo she kills her self and the parents goo blaming someone or something else...i listen to all kind of music i play vdeo games for hours and watch horror movies all the time and im not out killin people or myself i failed i messed up my childhood wasnt all that great but that doesnt mean im goin to take my own life...music is a form of expression who hasnt wrote a song about beeing depressed or wanting too kill there selfs or someone else seriuosly come on....parents open your f**king eyes!!!

[Gettinbroady]

Yeah i agree with a post from before. it seems parents and the media blame everyone else (music games and tv) before they blame themselfs, it makes me sick

[Greek Kid]

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

I don't know if someone did this but +1

[J450N]

You really have to truely ascertain the causality of these situations. By which I mean; do depressed people seek out music with dark overtones. Or does depressing music change the mental stability of the listener.
Honestly, I doubt anyone with a "bubbly" personality (or words to similar effect) would listen to darker themed music. Whereas those with a disposition towards the gloom is more likely to actively search for the music to complement their state of mind.

[Gettinbroady]

but yes i forgot to add RIP hannah, it sad ur life had to end so early.

[Shun1010]

I'd just like to let everyone know right off the bat that I'm not an emo fan. In general speaking, MUSIC CAN NOT MAKE YOU KILL YOURSELF. I have never heard in a song any lyrics telling people to do so. With any type of music whether it be metal of any kind or emo in this case you can't be compelled to kill yourself. There are other reasons she did it for...look somewhere else besides music. But you can always work through your problems and suicide is never the answer.

[DemonicSloth]

No matter what happens, Non-country and Non-pop music will be blamed for most of society's problems. Its happened before and it will happen again.

[blasphemus666]

ok i think we all agree here that emo just plain sucks.
but seriosuly, why do they blame music EVERY SINGLE TIME!?!?!
this is just like when they blamed Marilyn Manson (who, btw, is not emo) for Columbine. its stupid and ridiculous how ignorant some people can be.

[scarfacesuit]

This is ridiculous. With no disrespect to the girl or her family at all, these accusations are just plain stupid. Blaming music for the cult following that surrounds it? Emo may be a style for some, but the music is just music... Emo artists write from the heart, and sure, sometimes the songs may be whiny and incessant, but they're not writing to glorify death and spur countless teens to kill themselves.

Blaming music for teen suicide is just as ridiculous as blaming video games for school shootings. The teen in question has to have something wrong with them prior to the incident before playing the game/listening to the music. Millions of perfectly sane people enjoy emo music without being completely stupid and killing themselves.

[mrmrcactus]

I hate emo music, BUT MUSIC DOES NOT MAKE YOU KILL YOURSELF!!!!!

[killboypowerhed]

and nobody blames rap for gang shootings. tsk tsk...

*RIP Hannah Bond*

[AngryGoldfish]

Oh man, as soon as I read the words 'emo' and 'death', I could tell UG was going to go wild saying what they feel... shit, I feel sorry for the people who have created the emo images, the emo bands and the people who invented the fashion that is so closely linked with suicide and self harm. Depression is a real thing, I and loads of others suffer seriously from it, but obviously this doesn't fully apply to this poor girl. She was another form of a Satanist if you think about it. All those cults you here about that self harm and sacrifice children, this is just another way of expressing that depravity. Brainwashed.

[Slaytanic6606]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

Just because they say they're metal does not make them metal. I don't think they're Emo either. I just think they're boring.

[Kaervek]

EMO isn't normal, it never was and never will be...

when your kid is cutting his/her wrist its not normal no matter the situation. some kids need a smack or two

[AngryGoldfish]

I agree with scarfacesuit though in a way, its just music. You can't blame the music for the way people react to it, but then again, the other argument could be, what if that music had never arose? Would that girl still be living. And no music is worth death. No matter how good it is and I own loads of emo stuff, good and bad and they are talented just like loads of alternative bands, like Trivium and stuff. But no music is worthy of being called a killer, but also is it not worth it.

[70'smetalman]

i just HATE how they blame emo music for this.

not much music compells you to kill yourself..!

stupid fags

[Zenith Lead]

They dont mean that the music literally killed her. Stupid goof balls.... Music conveys different moods as you should know. Emo music expresses severely deprssed moods which can cause a person to think about outrageous ideas such as how horrible life is and how death could fix it. These ideas are obviously ludicrous, but some people ( "Emos" ) believe these are the answers. So we can say, transitionaly, music played a major role in causing deaths. Same goes for rap and shootings. But they come out and i say "i hate this pozer" and then get shot.

More to the point, emo music is just music that expresses depressing thoughts and focuses mainly on the negatives of life. I, myself, dont care for music (hate it actually) but im not going to tell people to change the way they express themselves.

No one should have to deal with a loved ones death. But hey, no one lives forever.

Rest in Peace Hannah.

[WastedFire]

thats retarded. none of my chemical romances songs glorify suicide in any way at all. and i seriously doubt that this girl commit suicide because the music she listened to was sad.

[genresrforposer]

You'd think they'd read into the fact the band is still alive.....

[genresrforposer]

before they commit suicide out of "imitation".

[alex w b]

i think this....
if ur gonna kill urself over emo music...not b/c its bad but b/c of the lyrics...then u prolly should just put JESUS LOVES ME on ur ipod and listen to it over and over again...i mean seriously, cuz ur just gonna listen to something else and start doing drugs, etc.
and seriously, if u kill ur self, u most likely had a mental issue before u started listening to emo music.

[paddypadman]

Hasnt this happened to Manson Before?
The Parents always try and find something to blame really.. This time its Emo music.. Something easily blamed..
Anyway sorry for their loss but they are blaming the wrong thing...

[alex w b]

LazZzloW wrote:

no disrespect to emo music but when all they can write songs about is killing them selves then it's past what music SHOULD be.

have u listened to it?
ive heard a ton of songs by emo bands that arent about killing urself.
u just have this stereotype stuck in ur mind and havent listened to it to give it a chance of maybe finding out its not all about killing urself.
and ive never heard mcr glorifying suicide. gerard even says he trys to save lives, not end them.

[GuitarAustin95]

sheezor wrote:

jpgilbert701 wrote:
You dont do something because Ozzy or Halford says so.



Only if Lemmy says so.

Yea Lemmys the man

[ThunderPX]

Paging Jack Thompson...

[alex w b]

nolson44 wrote:

EZLN libertad wrote:

all jokes aside, STOP BLAMING MUSIC FOR SHIT

metal often gets blamed for shit, and the metal community fights back, and now emo's getting blamed, people are attacking them, while i absolutely hate emo, music is nothing compared to the surroundings and the way you are brought up

may i congratulate you sir on being the only down to earth person hear
im emo and you hate emo
two different people with two different styles
completly same opinion
music doesnt infuluence you into doing things
think of what rap would do
you would have lk 4 rape cases everyday
gunfights
murders
music doesnt infuluenc you
people are stupid

this guy is some smart shit

[rocker20]

Cacophonic wrote:

To be honest, I think killing people on GTA makes it to where I WON'T kill in real life.

I don't want to go to jail, but it's fun pretending, right?

i know what to get this person for christmas hehehe

[Gein]

The media is a scapegoat for bad parents.

[alex w b]

these parents just need an excuse to keep the police from looking in their basement and finding the chains and whips they would use on their daughter every time she got a B on her report card

music doesnt influence ppl
ppl always blame music to save their own asses

[KoRnyKenny]

I don't know about blaming music for deaths as I am against people blaming violent video games for murder and these are relatively similar.

But Emo isn't necessarily to blame. It does just look upon the darker more depressed side of life. And some people can take this too far. For instance, I love metal and music helps me through most days. That's because the music appeals to me and makes me happy.

This girl just found that "lifestyle" and music to her liking. And she expressed it how she wanted to. Unfortunately they weren't very posotive ways and this is what can happen.

You can't blame one brand of music for this kinda thing. Really you should blame music in general as it is there to help us through each day with expression and style that makes us happiest. And if this made the girl happy then...well I guess there isn't really much I can say.

My condolences to the parents.

[alex w b]

also, sometimes emo music helps me if im in a bad mood

[JL_Shredder]

Ok, seriously. I hate it so much when music gets blamed for shit like this. It's just like the 80's with Ozzy, Twisted Sister, etc getting blamed. I hate emo with a passion. A bunch of whiny little idiots whining about how much life sucks, but I don't think that alone will cause suicide.

[miketheman401]

i hate emo. but blaming music for suicide is stupid. maybe her parents should have payed more attention to her

[alex w b]

alex w b wrote:

also, sometimes emo music helps me if im in a bad mood

that was a joke by the way

[MusicalMinority]

jpgilbert701 wrote:

I feel no sympathy for this girl. Anybody that commits suicide doesn't deserve to be remembered by many people for ending their problems in such a cowardly, selfish way. On the other hand I feel bad for the parents because they have to bury their daughter. I also think people need to stop blaming music for murders and suicide because it is your choice in the end to go through with something. You dont do something because Ozzy or Halford says so.

Well, what else do you think easily influenced 13 year olds are going to do when living in that kind of environment, exposing themselves to those kinds of themes and ideas at young ages, and surround themselves with like-minded teenagers?

I mean, suicide isn't by any means a good thing, but there's more to it than "it's cowardly and self-gratifying" blah, blah, blah, blah, bullshit.

Then again, I shouldn't expect so much out of a metalhead guitar forum where the majority of posters are 15 year olds with little to no maturity and/or empathy. Come on guys.

[AngryGoldfish]

I bought the new GTA and its vicious, but its so over the top, you can't help but avoid it ever happening in the real world. I listen to depressing music, because aits good, damn good! bit takes me away into someone else's universe and when you are genuinely depressed, thats what you want to do, escape your life. Thats why people kill themselves in the first place.
You can't blame games for murders and contemptuous behavior, just as much as you can't blame music for suicide and anger. In the end of the day, its the person themselves that puts the noose around their necks, its the person themselves placing the gun in their own hands. No one is forcing them to do it, and if they are, its not the fault of anyone, except the original forcer.

[[[BurnTheDusk]]]

Fade_One_Fuel wrote:

Hmm it is quite clear that her parents have absolutely no idea what Emo music actually. Lets face it, their daughter killed herself and they are looking for something to fix the blame on. When of course it is not the fault of the music. The music was probably the only thing that gave her happiness in life.

Its probbably the sea of people making dun od her favorite band that kicked her chair.

[flyman]

..And this is guitar related news how...?

[gr1170]

flyman wrote:

..And this is guitar related news how...?

its music related news genius, thats why it is under the category of general music news.

[Obie]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

nice contradictory logic. so was it the parents fault or the girls fault in your conflicting point of view?

obviously it wasnt the parents fault, and it wasnt emo musics fault either. the girl killed herself. do you all realize what that means? its the girls fault.

[rocker20]

atla18 wrote:

people are ****ing stupid. they connect deatsh with music all the time. I suppose school shooters can be blamed on Marilyn Manson, too.

why is it that when a new generation finds something the parents can't udnerstand the parents blame it on the entertainment? This girl was suicidal, the music didn't MAKE her so, she just WAS.

And..... if someone is cutting themself WHY DON'T YOU GET THE HELP.... like... BEFORE they kill themselves.

becouse they dont want help

[flyman]

gr1170 wrote:

flyman wrote:

..And this is guitar related news how...?


its music related news genius, thats why it is under the category of general music news.

It's people blaming news on music.

[blaze2thekings]

i hate emo but its not the musics fault, *cough* parents...

[Lacerated Sky]

Finaly metals not to blame!

[Obie]

jimmyZOSOpage68 wrote:

k
wow
all you faggots needs to screw off, are you seriously going to rip on someone who committed suicide? do you understand the hardships someone encounters when they're having suicidal tendencies? can any of you even begin to comprehend the shear hell that people go through if they're having problems like these? all you guys can screw off, you emotionless cold hearted *****s
and as far as Hannah goes, i feel for her, ive nearly been there myself...its one of the worst things anyone can go through...and all you saying that music cant influence someone, YOU ARE IGNORANT. as far fetched as it seems, some people actually are so emotionally unstable that music can drive them to the point of self mutilation or self destruction, especially music like this...dont even try to go againts that, i know first hand that its true
so with that, all i can say is R.I.P. Hannah

i dont understand how you, or anyone, can possibly be at the point where they wanna kill themselves. you ****in realize there is more to life than money, job, school, and more importantly music and material goods?

how can you find so little value in life when there is so much? its beyond me. ohh yeah im sure your life is so hard. there are people out there with hard lives who dont kill themselves so what makes you so special?

[nolson44]

Brad_Bassist wrote:

Emo music should just be banned! It would be so much better!!!

wtf are you talking about
this isnt some antiemo site
this is about how music is being framed for a childs death
you sick bastard

[[[BurnTheDusk]]]

Lacerated Sky wrote:

Finaly metals not to blame!

AMEN!

[napalm890]

[quote]strat0blaster wrote:


I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

quote]

WOW...cigarette companies make a product that kills millions of people, they definitly need to be blamed for all the helath issues...they cant be compared to a genre of music.

[radioplay]

I dont really have anything new to say, i'm just commenting because i think i might be the last user not to comment yet.....



o and i saw MCR live last year and Way went on a 5 minute anti-suicide rant,NME is just confused.

[radioplay]

napalm890 wrote:

[quote]strat0blaster wrote:


I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

quote]

WOW...cigarette companies make a product that kills millions of people, they definitly need to be blamed for all the helath issues...they cant be compared to a genre of music.

yes he's just saying that people choose to smoke even though they know the health concerns.We can all choose to listen to emo if we want to. I wouldnt.

[fitter.happier.]

i skipped those 370 posts, forgive me if im repeating anyone
in my opinion, artists should think more about what they put out there. music that advocates death generally doesnt seem like such a great idea. that being said, it probably depends on the maturity of the person taking in the music.

[whitestrat279]

strat0blaster wrote:
I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

1. Obviously, that's tragic that she wouold commit suicide.
2. People tend to forget that emo is short for EMOTIONAL. So all this "emo" bashing is bashing music with emotion. I dare someone to find one song that has absolutely zero emotion put into, a song that is just bland and monotone, and when it is performed live, the band just stands, looks down, and plays.
3. Other than black metal (not bashing it, I just don't like it) I've never heard a song that goes and say "Kill yourself, you're useless, go die." MCR is not like that. If people would actually listen to their albums (I've listened to the last two and their not bad) their lyrics arn't the whole go kill yourself thing. Sure they might be a little depressing, but nothing to kill yourslef over. Music lyrics are not something worth killing yourself for.
4. This blaming of music and games like Grand Theft Auto arn't a reason for normal people to just go out and kill others and themselves. ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME, I know that it is completely unrealistic. If you have ever played GTA, its completely irrational, I have yet t osee one person actually manage to steal lan army tank and rampage the streets. Its like the controversy with the Matrix. If you believe that you can morph reality to your liking and kill people, you have serious mental issues.
5. Bottom line people who commit suicide bring it upon themselves. Gerard Way or Marilyn Manson is not next to them handing them a gun or a noose.

[Danejerez]

timmymaines wrote:

...music is a form of expression who hasnt wrote a song about beeing depressed or wanting too kill there selfs or someone else seriuosly come on....parents open your f**king eyes!!!

I think most people haven't written a song about killing one's self or others. However, I do agree that this is partially the parents' fault for allowing their child to become so entrenched in such self-destructive behaviors which they were apparently always aware of and did nothing about.

[viento]

at least it's not marilyn manson who's taken the blow now...
remember a few years ago? columbine was HIS fault!!
people always get excuses and not resposability!

[Cr3sc3nT]

point no. 1:
music should not be blamed. it's the human perception towards music and its message that should be. i listen to emo, the same as i listen to metal or funk or jazz music, but that doesn't mean that i'm gonna go emotional all the time.

point no. 2:
if you hate a certain genre of music, then just keep it to yourself. it's a silly thing to post "emo sucks and everyone who listen to it should kill themselves". everyone deserves to listen to any kind of music they like, even though that kind of music "sucks".

[ThePizzaNator]

rip hanna.

well my chemical romance actuly isn't that bad of a band. i think that all the websites with "teddies hanging themselves" had a bigger impace

[firehawk913]

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

MCR.... metal... hahahahahahaha
sorry dude MCR is no where close to metal no matter what their myspace says.
ps.. there emo

[firehawk913]

alexxero wroteMy Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

MCR.... metal... hahahahahahaha
sorry dude MCR is no where close to metal no matter what their myspace says.
ps.. there emo

[Hippykiller]

As gay as emo music is, there's no way that anybody can blame the music. When it comes to my life I'm not going to take the advice of some dick who cries to music for a living. If I were angry and threw on some ganster rap chances are I'm not gonna drive-by and shoot up the block. On the other hand I wouldn't entirely blame the parents (thats the last thing they need on their conscience), perhaps her friends weren't the best influence? Maybe she wasn't as popular as her parents thought? And school, I remember being in grade 8 and boy thats some stressful work! (Not at all).
Sorry to hear about this though, nobody should come to that as a last resort. R.I.P.

[archangels]

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

QFT.

I also feel sorry for the parents, but the emo thing is pretty much on its way out. You can't blame a trend that's on its way downhill for a girl killing herself.

And no, MCR is not emo. Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge was an emo album, but everything else they've done is mostly just bad pop-punk.

And again, though I feel for the parents, don't you think a poster of a girl with bloody wrists should be a bit of a red flag?

[Hippykiller]

whitestrat279 :
1. Obviously, that's tragic that she wouold commit suicide.
2. People tend to forget that emo is short for EMOTIONAL. So all this "emo" bashing is bashing music with emotion. I dare someone to find one song that has absolutely zero emotion put into, a song that is just bland and monotone, and when it is performed live, the band just stands, looks down, and plays.

You are... dumb...
Basically you said that all music is classified as emo... I think the proper definition of emo is more or less then negative emotion (i.e. sadness, depression, etc). I can't believe anybody could be as dumb as you.

[travd92]

she obviously had some problems, i dont mean to be rude but she DEFINITELY killed herself because she thought it was cool. emo initiation ceremony? what the hell is that?? i think she was bored and just wanted to kill herself.

[LegsOnEarth]

very sad but music may not be entirely to blame

[RainyMonday]

i sat with a bunch of emo kids last year in my science class. They talked about a LOT of stuff but they never said anything about "emo initiation" I think she didn't want to tell her parents she was sad or whatever made her do it. they should have talked to her about it

RIP hannah.

[ekord123]

can anybody agree with me that emo music doesnt exist?

[travd92]

alexxero wroteMy Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

haha your ignorant.

[baki]

r.i.p. Hannah. bands should be aware of the influence on their fans that they make with their music...

[Forsakensoul]

Yeah I'm not going to read through every single one of these comments just to find someone to call out.
(Anyone that acts tough online is a complete loser, cause its pointless, its like trying to blow up a brick wall with a pop-gun).
Nevertheless, whether MCR is an "emo" band or not(thats up to them), their music isn't "pro-suicide".
The term "emo" is derived from "emotional", its a way a person is, its a fashion statement, and its become a music genre as well.
I'm deeply sorry for anyone linked to Hannah in her life, as well as for her.
But the way people choose to link something as wonderful as music to someones death, thats their choice. In my opinion, the only true song that is connected to death is The Funeral March.
RIP Hannah

[spartan 118]

The level of ignorance in these comments bother me. As much as I dislike emo music, I doubt it was the cause of her suicide. Most likely, it was the stereotypical trend that she and her friends were following.

[patrickdenneyto]

this is retarted not i'm gonna lie
i mean yeah it sucks that she killed herself, but to blame my chemical romance? she obviously doesnt listen to them that much because in their songs they talk about how bad and sorrowful death is especially to the one's closest to you.

[GREENWARRI0R]

It is horrible that this girl killed herself. But why does everyone have to blame something else and of all things, music? Now, I HATE "emo" music and bands like MCR, but it's just stupid that music and media in general is always getting blamed for one thing or another. Take some responsibility, people.

[beep-bop deluxe]

I dislike emo music but this is ridiculous, perhaps she listend to this music because she was suicidal and could relate to the music? This is just people having to blame someone and they chose the musicians. It's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

[rasveer]

GREENWARRI0R wrote:

It is horrible that this girl killed herself. But why does everyone have to blame something else and of all things, music? Now, I HATE "emo" music and bands like MCR, but it's just stupid that music and media in general is always getting blamed for one thing or another. Take some responsibility, people.

+1

[gummywurms]

i think if any type of music should be banned, its country...but anyways.....
Gerard: Hey, Mikey, wanna write song about killing yourself, having low self-esteem and our grandmother dying?

Mikey: Sure, lets get Frank, too!

FACE IT. MCR IS PROLIFE, NON-EMO, AND INNOCENT. PLEASE, SOMEONE, PROVE ME WRONG AND POST ONE EFFING LINE FROM AN MCR SONG IN WHICH IT CLEARLY SAYS "KILL YOURSELF, LIFE SUCKS, MAKE IT PAINFUL." PLEASE. AND LETS NOT FORGET THE OLD "PARENTAL ADVISORY" SIGN. I DONT KNOW IF THEY ARE ON MCR MERCH, BUT IF THEY ARE, IT IS JUST ANOTHER SIGN OF POOR PARENTING.

[Dallinisrad]

wow just when i thot i coudnt hate emo music any more!
poor stupid girl. thats just so sad that she killed herself just becuz she was in live with a bunch of posers. they should be killed for writin crappy music that makes people feel like shit. i mean why not listen to music that makes you feel good!
r.i.p chick

[Cutlass_253]

Wow...there are a lot of comments on here...I do find this whole things really sad, but I honestly can't feel sorry for this girl. I'm not saying that maybe she did have some real issues in her life, but at 13, to kill yourself? Some people die for real reasons, and if this article is true then she wasn't one of those people.

[TheGuitarDreams]

and there go people blaming media.

just like comics and videogames are the casue of violence...and rock and roll is evil...****in' ignorance...parent's should stop there kids from this shit...pay attention to them once in awhile might help.

RIP Hannah

[jimmyZOSOpage68]

if you have no explanation
leave it alone

[ttamland34]

Of course people are gonna blame music for this stuff. People need to take responsibility for their OWN actions. Music is about expressing yourself, not about doing what the music told you to do. MCR doesnt even tell anyone to kill themselves or anything like that!!! She just took some stupid fad too far OOORRRR She was depressed from the start and used the stereotypical Emo image to hide her pain. Either way, its not good. If your depressed, then you need to get help no matter what! No life is worth losing just because you think your too proud to seek help. Seeking help is one of the strongest things you can do, instead of just hiding your pain!

[Tatersalad1080]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

lawlz....
damn noobs

[ttamland34]

SchitzoJoe wrote:

She probably was stupid and was cutting herself while listening to MCR and just cut too deep.

yeah, read what happened again ya dumba**. the article said she hung herself, not cut herself. read the story before you make accusations like this


RIP Hannah

[ttamland34]

TheGreenAvenger wrote:


how about you get to my positition, how about you go through what i did, how about you get your head out of your ass and see the world through another persons eyes
once you quite being an ***** and do that, then give me shit
until then
screw off

yeah i'll pull my head out my ass just long enough to see whiny little pussies like you bitching about how bad their lives are and how they wish they were dead. all i'm suggesting is, instead of whining about it to "balanced" individuals in a desperate bid for attention just ****ing do it and unpollute the gene pool. we don't need you, you're mother nature's mistake.

Holy shit dude, you need to chill out. You sound like a damn Nazi!

[gummywurms]

TheGreenAvenger wrote:

If that's what I sound like then that's what I sound like, but I'm completely sick of whiny bitches like this douche who find it necessary to draw attention to their non existant "suicidal tendencies". he wouldn't have killed himself then he won't kill himself now because he couldn't bear to be without attention for even a millisecond. Oh please look at me i'm overdosing. He's the kind of ***** that believes he's the only one who's been through shit in their life. Not true, deal with it you pretentious dick.

hes right, chill, we dont need another suicide

[Distortion360]

Don't blame the music, blame the people who came up with this lame ass stupid damn "emo" trend! Kill the trend!!!

[severed-metal]

I'd kill myself too if I listened to such terrible music. Pwnt.

Dear lord, quit arguing over nothing. Just as someone told me, "people deal with things differently" So, take it that way. It doesn't matter what you say, or how badass you try and make yourself sound, that's not going to change anyone's mind.

But in all seriousness, it's only the little childs fault to blame. As much as we can influence people, ultimately, the person doing that action is responsible.

[Year Zero]

Same was said about Kurt Cobain, Alice in Chains, NIN and the grunge bands. Alot of the lyrics were about suicide, big ****ing deal. I and millions of others listened to it it back in the day and weren't dumb enogh to kill ourselves. I hate emo, but the shit is not the cause of kids deaths. It's dumb parents and stupid kids that's what's kiling them.

[gummywurms]

TheGreenAvenger wrote:

you say we don't need one, but i'm sat here with crossed fingers hoping for one dude

thats sick. screw emos, its people like you that need help.

[Ali-b912]

to all emo's.


imagine you live in africa. your 14. your best friend just died beside you, and your gonna get whipped if you dont keep killing people. after hours doing this, you go to and sleep with 40 people in a 7 person tent. you wake up with about half as many people as when you slept. then you do this again and again. until you die at age 16.

stil think you had a ****ing bad day?!

[Penn100]

Ugh, I really dislike emo, i don't like the style, the music or anything about it.

But to blame emo is just WRONG.

[gummywurms]

Ali-b912 wrote:

to all emo's.


imagine you live in africa. your 14. your best friend just died beside you, and your gonna get whipped if you dont keep killing people. after hours doing this, you go to and sleep with 40 people in a 7 person tent. you wake up with about half as many people as when you slept. then you do this again and again. until you die at age 16.

stil think you had a ****ing bad day?!

right, it can get a LOT worse, but kinda off subject

[0h The Horror]

Maybe now we can get this shit off the radios.

R.I.P. seriously that's terrible. If only the parents weren't ****ing stupid.

[harmonicchaos]

okay while i hate emo with a passion, i don't think that we can blame it on this girl's death. her views were skewed and she was probably depressed and maybe even brainwashed. i remember that there was a similar story like this involving ozzy and his music, and i like some of his music and it doesn't depress me or make me suicidal. i wouldn't want his music to be banned and i doubt that these emoers would want emo to be either. like i said i don't like emo but one of the great things about music is that it gives us a freedom of speech and a way for us to express our views and feelings. it's sad that this happened but i don't think we can blame the music.

[gummywurms]

Penn100 wrote:

Ugh, I really dislike emo, i don't like the style, the music or anything about it.

But to blame emo is just WRONG.

its a bit strange hoping for people to kill themselves so you and apparently many others can bitch about it, but hey thats your problem. leaving thread this is sickening me

[gummywurms]

gummywurms wrote:

Penn100 wrote:

Ugh, I really dislike emo, i don't like the style, the music or anything about it.

But to blame emo is just WRONG.



its a bit strange hoping for people to kill themselves so you and apparently many others can bitch about it, but hey thats your problem. leaving thread this is sickening me

wrong quote sorry

[rasveer]

TheGreenAvenger wrote:

If that's what I sound like then that's what I sound like, but I'm completely sick of whiny bitches like this douche who find it necessary to draw attention to their non existant "suicidal tendencies". he wouldn't have killed himself then he won't kill himself now because he couldn't bear to be without attention for even a millisecond. Oh please look at me i'm overdosing. He's the kind of ***** that believes he's the only one who's been through shit in their life. Not true, deal with it you pretentious dick.

i like listening to Suicidal Tendencies...

[thegrungyhippie]

Music cannot be blamed for peoples actions, just as something like video games cannot be blamed for peoples actions. Music doesnt convince people to do things, people think that to like a kind of music you have to be a certain way. That is when stuff like this happens.

[Bluesman_22]

strat0blaster :
What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

You are a very smart person

[Penn100]

harmonicchaos wrote:

okay while i hate emo with a passion, i don't think that we can blame it on this girl's death. her views were skewed and she was probably depressed and maybe even brainwashed. i remember that there was a similar story like this involving ozzy and his music, and i like some of his music and it doesn't depress me or make me suicidal. i wouldn't want his music to be banned and i doubt that these emoers would want emo to be either. like i said i don't like emo but one of the great things about music is that it gives us a freedom of speech and a way for us to express our views and feelings. it's sad that this happened but i don't think we can blame the music.

WORD.

[GoWithTheFlow]

aww im totally going to go make an emo rehab clinic. lock em in a room and blast every genre but emo. amazing. i would sign myself up just for the free music.

[ajmix2]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

I have to agree with you about not instilling the right values and what not. But, music would play a role. I know plenty of people who get pissed listening to metal and people who get depressed listening to "emo" music. The parents did what they were supposed to do, trust their child. But, what they failed to do was see the signs that the end was near.


I'm sorry that someone that young had to die this way.

[Lucas Bundy MAN]

It must suck to be My Chemical Romance and get blamed for all this. That has to effect you mind somehow.

[bazman13]

i burn down churchs cause i listen to black metal. the sterotype response to what music does to a person is always true. satan is my lord because i love black sabbath. its just the way the world works...

oh wait... no its not. i dont think ive ever burnt down a church... hmm. does that mean musics not to blame for everyone with mental issues...??? what a radical idea

[cannster]

It may not be the music that caused the suicide, but regardless, emo music is among some of the shittiest pieces of tunage I have ever heard...it requires no talent and I would go so far to say that it's worse than all this atrocious punk rock crap that's plaguing airwaves like a contagious disease in this day and age. Listen to some real music instead of these ****faces who simply look for mindless idiots to feel sorry for them by singing about how shitty their life is through the means of incredibly shitty vocals. Go to some areas of Africa you ****ers, and you will see that life actually can be shitty, instead of the feeling of self-pity that is formulated completely in one's own mind. If a band is going to sing about suicide, just commit the act instead of inflicting the musical pain onto young impressionable listeners, not to mention those of us who are subjected to this noise every day on mainstream radio. Being emo is solely about looking for attention, rather than actually BEING depressed and besides, since when is depression...a condition that millions actually struggle with...a fashion statement? Can anyone say ****ed up? Fuck emos...listen to some real music and get some goddamn help.

[kar_kar]

This is really sad.
Its sad that a young girl committed suicide, and that a an educated man actually blamed a genre of music for it.
I dont like emo at all, its bad, and full of posers.
But to blame it for this? Come on seriously

[PeaceEnsemble]

This is an incredibly stupid story. I'm not a fan of that type of music but honestly stop blaming ****ing music for deaths and crime. People make choices, sometimes sad ones, but its up to them not an artist.

[Dead_End]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

+1

[korn_dawg]

Josh Laiho wrote:

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P

Yeah, that is bad when parents have to bury their own children.

But it's funny that emo bands are being blamed for this. I hate emo music it is so boring and stupid. It would also make me want to kill myself.

It usually looks like the stupidest thing on earth when a band/genre gets blame for something happening.. but the article actually does make this girl sound like enough of a follower to do it because she thought it was "cool."

[bathroomboy]

No normal kids would go that far just because of the music they like... clearly she had other ****ed up issues in her life

[Toaster Pastry]

Remember when everyone blamed Judas Priest when some kids killed themselves in the 80s?

[Shredder Guitar]

i dont understand how music is to blame.. and i really have never had an interest in MCR, but of all the songs i've heard, not one spoke of "glamourizing suicide."

even songs with the word "Suicide" in the title dont make me feel insignificant.. just listen to Suicide Note Pts. 1 and 2 by Pantera.. something sad doesnt have to sound all depressing...it can be badass as well.

[Dog454]

I was wondering when this would hit the front page, and I knew it was going to explode like this too. It's not the music to blame, it's the poor parenting and the girl + her dumbass friends. The parents should have questioned her when she started oh, you know, painting her face white and putting eyeliner on in excessive amounts.

[UnAmazing365]

hahaha oh great, MCR has become the Manson of suicide..... remember how manson was blamed for Columbine, no matter the issue, music always happens to be a key factor..... thats such crap

[petchy]

strat0blaster wrote:
I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

i didn't even have to write something.

[DIv15iON]

I thought the point behind Emo music was to give kids who are troubled and already contemplating suicide an alternitve, musical outlet... I don't know much about it but I thought that was the intention of the genre.

[corybott]

The new emo scene is so far fetched, its barely about music anymore. Its about way to much black makeup, and pathetic initiations. You cant blame music when people take it so much further than its meant to go.

I mean, for god sakes, how can it be a legitimate scene about music when they are named after a genre of music they dont even listen to (MCR is so far from emo its ridiculous, lets )?

Maybe the things she was experiencing in real life had a slighty bigger effect on her outlook than the music she listened to. Does that seem that absurd?

[Cannibalhell666]

Well is is very sad that the chick killed her shelf but emo does cause deaths alot and plus emo music is not that good my cuz is emo and he cuts he's shelf every day I hope does not kill hishelf

[rob420]

yes i am sorry for their loss

honestly if i listened to emo music everyday i'd kill myself just so i wouldn't have to hear that crap anymore

[Die Die Mcr!!]

poor girl. sorry for the family. just as my name implies though, i hate the band you woulda thought death metal mighta got a bit of mention.. coz of the whole sinister approach. but its not as crap as emocrap.

[MindDecay]

I love how all you people bash bands..Seriously. "Emo" Music is just a side effect on a suicide. You would think a parent noticing apparent "mood swings" in a child would ask his/her child if somethings going wrong or what. Sure Emo Music in General, alot has to do with suicides and stuff, but that kind of genre is not the only one saying that stuff. Music is one of the most powerful influences on the face of this planet.

Just because a teen kills themselves doesnt mean the only verdict is 'Emo music'. How would they know if other facotrs werent more heavily involved besides the kids choice of music. There are plenty of Rock Bans that can be blamed for suicides but you dont hear them being bashed for suicides.

[Die Die Mcr!!]

and whats with the "initiation into emo" its not a cult.. its not even a music scene. its just a dumbass fashion. that with anyluck will die out

[J6strings21fret]

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

You ignorant ass. Who are you to decide/judge that music plays a certain amount of influence in someones life? Did you personally know this girl? Btw, glamorous...not "glamourous"...

[AKV272]

ok i do not like emo music all that much, but parents are responsible for the children... they should have seen it coming they cant blame music for their own damn mistakes, but they need a scapegoat because they dont want to take the fall for their daughter who if they would have taken time to look at her life and get her help this never would have happened... i do feel for the families loss, but the kid did it the parents didnt prevent it, the nusic did not come out of the stereo and massacre her and go back into the stereo

[HedBanger24/7]

I don really like emo music but I dont think its much to blame. I think its more along the lines of ****ed up kids getting ****ed up ideas to do stupid shit. If this is some kind of "cultural fad" then I think its ****ing sick. I dont blame the bands one bit and I think the fans take shit too far.

[shut_up_n00b]

Real emo has nothing to do with suicide. I can't take this article seriously when they're calling MCR emo. They're just bad parents I guess.

[MurphyG19]

its terrible what happened to the girl, but music, especially mcr, isn't to blame. for one thing, the band has repeated time and time again that they want to SAVE YOUR LIFE!!! using music as a scapegoat for other problems the girl may have had is definitely not going to solve anything.

[takotakumi]

anything related to emo sucks and should be exterminated fro this world
long live metal
sorry for the girl though

[Junesongtrigger]

How could emo music be blamed? She was clearly a little troubled and if music can evoke such deep emotion (or what appears to be said emotion) she was clearly headed down this path regardless. I find it ridiculous that someone can duck out of their poor parenting and blame something they know nothing of. Although the glamour of emo and suicide is greatly exaggerated.

[stratdud39]

this is crap,music doesn't kill, and i dont even like emo music.
these parents are just overwhelmed cuz ther daughter died.

[koolfoolinapool]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

Actually in a world where teenagers just get "grounded" and do whatever they want and ignore their parents, it's a little hard to "raise" them.

Our generation of kids are mostly comprised of dumbasses, druggies, and gangstas. There are intelligent kids out there though. Not as many as there should be though.

And yes. Emo can do this to a person. Why?

The music sucks.

Peer pressure into doing what the song tells you to do. (same thing with mainstream rap nowadays)

Just the whole style and obsession of such trends are stupid.

I would classify MCR in horrible music before I'd classify it in emo. (they follow the trends and all that shit though)

People don't listen to good music nowadays. Good music was from around '85 to '97. Not too much of the mainstream stuff. More of the real stuff.

[stratdud39]

most likely it wuz the parents fault, with all due respect to them, it must be tough

[Saikotic]

Cacophonic wrote:

My Chemical Romance. Lulz.

I believe the emo bands should be the ones killing themselves. We'd have a lot less poser guitarists running around if it happened like that.

R.I.P. Hannah.

QFT.

[koolfoolinapool]

Josh Laiho wrote:

travd92 wrote:



alexxero wroteMy Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...


haha your ignorant.


hahaha. You must be ignorant, because they are far from Metal and they are Emo fags.

If MCR was metal than Slayer must be country. (Don't like Slayer so much. But they've been consistently metal throughout their entire career.)

If MCR was metal Soundgarden would be metal. (I like SG.)

[koolfoolinapool]

shut_up_n00b wrote:

Real emo has nothing to do with suicide. I can't take this article seriously when they're calling MCR emo. They're just bad parents I guess.

Yeah. Real emo is just emotion put into a song.

Stereotypical cliche pop rock emo is about suicide most of the time.

You could call Soundgarden emo. But you could never call them stereotypical cliche pop rock emo.

[stratdud39]

koolfoolinapool wrote:

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.



Actually in a world where teenagers just get "grounded" and do whatever they want and ignore their parents, it's a little hard to "raise" them.

Our generation of kids are mostly comprised of dumbasses, druggies, and gangstas. There are intelligent kids out there though. Not as many as there should be though.

And yes. Emo can do this to a person. Why?

The music sucks.

Peer pressure into doing what the song tells you to do. (same thing with mainstream rap nowadays)

Just the whole style and obsession of such trends are stupid.

I would classify MCR in horrible music before I'd classify it in emo. (they follow the trends and all that shit though)

People don't listen to good music nowadays. Good music was from around '85 to '97. Not too much of the mainstream stuff. More of the real stuff.

i agree but dissagree, ur rite, music is crap nowadys, and it wuz good way b4 '85.

and emo can't really do this unless they were disturbed or had some serious drug problems(like kurt cobain)

i dont listen to mcr so i cant comment on ur comment there

and 2 u emo music sux(and 2 me it duz to) but some people, as u can see, like it, so u shud respect it

[Ethicdoom]

J6strings21fret wrote:

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

You ignorant ass. Who are you to decide/judge that music plays a certain amount of influence in someones life? Did you personally know this girl? Btw, glamorous...not "glamourous"...

Sarcasm.

The parents admitted that she had a prior experience with hurting herself, and thought suicide was glamorous. Why wasn't she getting proper help/supervision? Then they blame it on music. I would arrest the parents on neglect. End of subject.

They probably left a noose lying around the house for her.

R.I.P. Hannah.

[GHOST_OF_WAR]

its not the musics fault. i for one hate my chemical romance. but its not their fault for the suicide or emo musics fault for suicide. its the persons own fault for actually doing stuff in the music that says itd be better if i died and cut my wrists and hang my self. so its the girls own fault not the music. GOD i hate people nowadays blaming music and video games for their actions.

[Miss G]

nobody killed her she killed herself. the music didn't hang that rope up she did. its a sad thing but in suicide one person makes the choice.

[Chris_Parker]

Well, the death part sucks. Not to be in the defense of emo music, at ALL, I just think it's stupid when people blame things that are more or less irrelevant concepts for shit that goes wrong, like video games and music. I'm sure most metal heads don't go out and beat the shit out of the homeless because they think they'd be cooler for it, much like a greaser in the 50s would have done stuff because people sang about it or they saw it on TV. The fact is, most people do shit like this because of personal and/or mental problems. If music or something is a catalyst for them, then it is, but only for THEM. Police Truck may make some feeble-mind douche bag go actually beat up drunks, but that's becausr that kid is ****ed up. I love that song, but you don't see me dragging ****ing hookers off of the street and stealing police cars.

I'm done with this kind of shit not only being done, but so heavily publicized and worried about. This is all it comes down to.

[TheIceCreamMan]

To quote Frank Zappa: IT'S THE 80'S AGAIN!

We already went through this shit with Ozzy and Judas Priest, and guess what, it was proven there was no link. It was the culture, not the music itself. Even then, it may not even be the culture, just plain old depression, which is what creates many emos in the first place.

I'm sorry for their loss but don't blame the music.

[deaththrashcore]

The Emo trend and all the shitty music that comes from it makes me want to die as well.

[Slaytanic1986]

Yeah, I live in Tonbridge (a short drive from maidstone)

That town is full of moronic emo kids just hanging about with no purpose.

[jansa33]

it was prolly her parents fault

[garage_kid]

yes, that's the reason, there are so many *******s who takes so seriously the messages of the "Emo" band's songs, c'mon, don't be sheeps, that bands doesn't got the reason, almost no band's got the reason, and the emo attitude sucks, they just makes music. she killed her self 'cause she though it'd be good, but it isn't.

just listen to the music, and enjoy it, but you don't do what song's lyrics says, 'cause maybe is not the truth.

[thycrusader]

I feel remorse for their loss, but attacking the media isn't a smart choice. It was bad parenting and poor judgement of their daughter's psychological condition. They shouldve done something instead of being "Oh, its just a phase" Suicide isn't a phase, its a problem.

[GNR'n'A7X]

I hate emo music but love My Chem. Also Judas Priest was thought to have made a fan commit suicide, it's all bullshit. If music makes you kill yourself than you are not capable of surviving in todays world anyway.

"Teenagers scare the living shit out of me"-MCR

-DDP

[acidhammerdrums]

The solution to so called music related suicide, violence inspired by Grand Theft Auto, and all that other good stuff that parent groups and politicians would have the public believe is the cause of the downfall of youth culture is simple...

CONTROL YOUR FUCKING KIDS.

Parents are too quick to blame the shit that they allowed into their kids lives. If you think a teddy bear hanging itself is ****ed up, then don't let your kids look at that shit.

Its all about finding a good balance of freedom and discipline for kids.

[SeanHart213]

this page concludes why i don't like guitar players...

[AtreyuAlive60]

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves. best point made so far

[jshizznit]

i agree, its not the musics fault, its societys fault


you people tried to blame marilyn manson, and doom because of columbine, wake up and smell your shit

you people teach your children to hate someone because their a bit different

WELL WAKE THE FUCK UP AND START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY

you people always blame other things because the burden of knowing its your fault its too much to handle

just another lost soul wandering down the highway of life who just couldnt handle the troubles

my condolences

[deanosaurx]

anyone who commits suicide because it is cool has a problem, and i really dont give a shit about them. sorry if it sounds insensitive, but when there are people starving and ding of aids halfway around the world, it seems much less significant when a middle class teenager decides it would be "cool" to kill themself.

[alex w b]

this is unbelievable.
all these comments are about "emo sucks" or "emos are stupid".
do u think that this article is just here so anti-emos can make fun of emo?
if u do get ur head out of ur ass, and maybe go get a life while ur at it.
i mean SOMEONE DIED. is it that hard to get?

[machinehead77]

First, R.I.P. Hannah Bond. Second, blaming emo, or any type of music for a suicide is just ****ing ridiculous. personally, i fukin hate emo and think its a load of shitt but no type of music could make someone kill themself. Obviously there was something mentally wrong with this girl to make her so obsessive over a type of music that she takes her own life. Its just one person who happened to be mantaslly ill out of a million that listen to that music.

[Gh057]

Thing, not ting
Laughed, not aughd

[phuzehatz]

WOW. This is ****ing LAME. YOU CAN NOT BLAME MUSIC FOR WHAT PEOPLE DO TO THEMSELVES. Do they honestly think that if they took away her "emo" music that she'd be all happy and not want to kill herself? I wish solving depression was that EASY. INFACT if it were, no one would ever need to be on meds to solve there deppression. I'll tell you one thing that poor girl has some ****ing LOSERS for parents. To cop out and blame music instead of accepting thier child was sick and unhappy is WEAK.

[HighPotency]

With all due respect to the family and their loss...

I would kill myself if i had to listen to My Chemical Romance too. Its funny how people nowadays will attack anything they can and pin the blame on it.

[bigz6006]

I don't feel sorry for people who kill themselves, it's THEIR fault, nto anyone elses, I mean you are an overall loser if you kill yourself and make the ones that love you suffer.

Remeber kids "You're a loser if you kill yourself, but you're an even bigger loser if you try and fail"

[JsX1313]

I am sorry your kid killed herself but don;t blame music because you need away out so you don't get blamed but w/e thats how people just are

[slash2005]

heres a scenario. hannah is sad, hannah hears good charlotte or simpleplan on the radio and says yeah thats like me. my parents are gay. then hannah says i like this music that understands me. now hannah listens to lots of music that she believe relates to her. and slowly but surely suicidal music relates to her.

i think some people need to open there eyes to how this kind of thing happens every single day and its a disease killing kids all the time. emo music is just a way for the record companies to cash in on suffering.

me saying this below 300 other posts is unlikely to draw any attention but then even if it did who would act? batman?

[James_Het_Rules]

im no emo kid, but it figures that the parents blame emo music by acting like emos and whining about emo music yes? the kid obviously already had something wrong with her, i mean i listen to slayer and im not satanic so i think the parents can **** off

[razors2blades]

all i wanna say is **** up bout the so called "Emo" music, if try 2 classify music 2 "emo" then ur classifying alotta eminem's songs as emo or that, and MCR aint "Emo" Music, n i love the Metal music, i get called emo cos i listen 2 the music, i ****in love that kind,, if the music did not kill hannah, she did it herself, every1 is blaming music these days, its not the music's fault, it usually rests with the parents so stop blaming the ****in music, n the "emo" music aint a chance for wannabe guitarists to come up, if u look at most of the good guitarists in the world, theyve come from metal bands and them bands usually get refferred as "Emo" music like Aveneged Sevenfold, Metallica, Pantera and all that, music is just that, music, its a way to express feelings like in the song by Disturbed, Inside the Flames, its sung bout a chick hanging herself and that its just life and people choose 2 do what they want with their life so back off the music

R.I.P Hannah +
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[tands]

r.i.p. I think its hard to blame 1 reason on this, im sure it was many factors

[Ali-b912]

gummywurms wrote:

right, it can get a LOT worse, but kinda off subject

yes im just trying to make a point that "emo" people have no reason to bitch and whinge and commit suicide. of course society doesnt understand them if they complain about every little problem. they are absurdly selfish and irritating. i hate the music but i hate the messages it promotes more.

and razors2blades your make no sense. metal and emo are far from each other. people who call metallica and pantera emo are usually technoheads who dont know anything anyway.

[wicked_hobbit]

tands wrote:

r.i.p. I think its hard to blame 1 reason on this, im sure it was many factors

Exactly. Merely blaming it on music is just ridiculous. I feel sorry for the mother and the family but she said "She could be a bit moody but I thought it was just because she was a teenager". I'm not being insensitive but there, it could apparently be one of the many factors.

[Disturbdkornkid]

Definately a terrible loss for the family. And as much as I hate Emo music and think they deserve to be blamed, it's kinda dumb that any type of pop-culture thing is being blamed. Are they gonna blame the new GTA next?

[cukd7x-a2-]

what about grunge??

[SpelChek]

Stupid people blame the music industry for their kid's problems, I think we've seen this before.

BTW emo is a flaming pile of shit and should never be taken seriously.

[SL!!!]

Wow, the comments on here are outrageously ignorant.

I'd just like to re-iterate what a moderator posted earlier "anyone who bashes emo or mocks her death will be BANNED."

There are a lot of foolish people posting on here that need to realize something, a little girl killed herself. It is not funny. Please don't try to give some stupid idea you have about blaming parents or the scene or culture either. Depression is not something that you can blame a person for having. A suicide victim is just that a victim.

And for Christ's sake stop the bitching about "emo." The vast majority of you buffoons have no idea what a real emo band is, and just go off and bash other people's music which is entirely off topic to this news story.

[customisbetter]

this is terrible, but i do think that "blaming" an entire genre of music is wrong. besides, if metal causes kids to kill other kids, and emo makes kids kill themselves, maybe we should investigate into other music genres to see what their results might be. maybe Indie music leads to nerdiness...
i do feel for the parents of the child, that is a horrible ordeal.

[Sweetooth24]

Suicide is always a sad and perplexing situation, when it involves children. Mucic doesn't kill people. I wouldn't even go as far as to say that the parents were neglectful. We dont know the situation at all so its hard for anyone to comment in that regard. Though I don't even understand what emo music is these days, I dont blame it. I actually saw MCR a couple of years ago with my ex-girlfriend. The singer actually talked about how suicide is "bullshit" and that if anybody felt lonely or vulnerable, to talk to someone. I'm not a fan of them at all but you cant put the blame on them or other "emo" bands

[mlfarrell]

SL!!! wrote:

Wow, the comments on here are outrageously ignorant.

I'd just like to re-iterate what a moderator posted earlier "anyone who bashes emo or mocks her death will be BANNED."

There are a lot of foolish people posting on here that need to realize something, a little girl killed herself. It is not funny. Please don't try to give some stupid idea you have about blaming parents or the scene or culture either. Depression is not something that you can blame a person for having. A suicide victim is just that a victim.

And for Christ's sake stop the bitching about "emo." The vast majority of you buffoons have no idea what a real emo band is, and just go off and bash other people's music which is entirely off topic to this news story.

+1
this story really made me sad today. No one person, genre or group is at fault here. Though I will say that (obviously) all the influences in this girls life came together and summed up to create this horrible result. Someone once said "we are the total sum of all the conscious thoughts we've had up until now"

[IUseAPurplePick]

I 100% completely agree.

[bubbyw]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

I'm sorry, but MCR is NOT metal!

[IUseAPurplePick]

Er, with the lack of the edit button, i was agreeing to this

vv

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

[decemberharvest]

Im 20 yrs old with no kids and an active musician.
Blaming it on anything but the parents is absurd. I play video games, I listen to "evil" music and I for one have never said omg MCR lets cut myself or said OMG GTA and stole a car. Its the parents wanting to blame there shitty awareness of what there daughter was doing on something else. Real Sorry for your loss but for christs sake Dont blame shit on other people.

[starsnostars]

Checked. As much as possible.

[DimebagLivesOn]

"Bond's father Ray explained that his daughter had had an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony"
theres the reason
tragic incident
but honestly i hate emo music with a passion and can not wait for it to end.

[razors2blades]

this is sortve like the columbian massacre,, cept a different artist in music,, 2 guys went on a massacre in columbia and that, their favourite artist was marilyn manson, n hey people say his music is emo and that his music had involvement with it but marilyn said
"I wouldn't say anything. I would just listen to what they had to say. That's what no one did" i completely agree with him on that, no body listened to what they had to say, it could be the same with hannah, no body listened 2 what she hadda say n she was feeling rejected n all,, and marilyn cancelled his concert that was being held in denver later out of respect 4 the people that had died and that,, and suicide is such a painful subject, and even worse, it usually hurts when doin it, ive tried hanging myself b4, it hurts like a bitch (no offence intended) but everyone says, its just a phase your goin thru, hold on and you will get out of it, yea summa thats true, but they don't know what pain is being felt on the inside, and Hannah to hang herself, is a tradgedy but NO ONE knew what was going thru her head or what she was feeling inside.

[CJRocker]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

You nailed it. People can't take responsibility anymore. It's always someone else's fault.

[blinxjp]

i think parent should be carefull about the music that their children listen. especially the young childen who can be easilly influenced

[blinxjp]

we should do like with the movie and put an age on each CD

[slashedaxl103]

atc228 wrote:

At least it's not metal this time...

But honestly, anyone who lets music take that much control over their life has more problems than just being a music fan...

Now maybe she had some prior disposition, then when emo came around it didn't mix well with her prior disposition and that is what caused it. I highly doubt that it was purely "emo" music, as much as I don't care for the genre.

Once again, they are just looking for someone to blame instead of taking responsibility and realizing that they should have tried to intervene earlier. (Especially since they said she had a self-harm episode before.) Now I'm not saying it is just bad parenting, because it's damn hard being a parent, let alone a parent with a child who has problems that you don't know how to solve. What I am saying, is that it was a mix of factors and they should recognize that.

Also, instead of warning parents against letting their kids listen to emo music, they should be warning parents to look for signs, and self harm tendencies. Something like:
"we lost our child because we didn't see the signs. We encourage all other parents to learn about, and look for these signs, in the hopes that it may save a life. Be part of your child's life, know about their hobbies and interests. By doing so, you will find out if they are taking a hobby too far. Listening to music and certain genres is great for kids because it gives them a sense of identity. But, like anything in life, it can be taken too far, and you should watch out for that."


But that is just my opinion...

+1

[DanSumthing]

I really like MCR, and I'm not thinking about killing myself. Does it make sense to say that MCR is the cause of my will to keep living? As much sense as it does to say they caused this girl to kill herself.

[farquarl]

This has nothing to do with the music itself, but the culture associating itself with the music. Sure some songs might say "go kill yourself" but how many of us really take lyrics to heart and then act on them. Now dont think im sticking up for the music here, i hate Emo along with the rest of the world. *note. Emos dont count, so the whole world hates Emo music.

[sqweejy]

It's terrible that the girl committed suicide, and I despise Emo shit just as much as the next guy, but it's complete bullshit that they're blaming the music for this.

[Undergrowth]

God, I hate the use of the word "emo" to refer to this new pop-rock-alt-horsecock-teeny bopper shit that bands like MCR and the like push out. Sorry, emo = subgenre of punk, it died at the start of the 90's. This shit = absolute ass. It needs to die horribly. Preferrably at someone's hands other than it's own. Metalheads, unite.

R.I.P. Hannah, and way to not teach your kids the value of their own lives before something like this happens. I still blame Myspace.

[troyponce]

I blame those damn sugary breakfast cereals that these kids have been eating.

[razors2blades]

what is up with every1 sayin emo is shit,, yea if u can help it try save sum1s life n that i have, it shows u r a good person n all n u juz dnt sit back and critisize people, i bet if alot of youse listened to alot of songs by a band called Atreyu , youse would call it emo, in any case theyre not emo theyre ****in metal and they r 1 of best bands in the metal industry and happen 2 be 1 of my favourite bands, and if i didn have my music, hate 2 say it, but i woulda been dead ages ago

[whalepudding]

When will people learn that music will not cause tragedies. End of ****ing argument, it was her fault for taking emo fashion too seriously.

[minoperic]

you are

[DanteLord]

This is retarded. I, for one, actually tend to like emo music (ooo scary, better keep me on suicide watch), especially MCR, but hey, its just music. Good music, yes, but not something I would kill myself over. I believe ALL of this blame should fall on the parents and the kid and the environment shes raised in. Stop blaming music and video games and popular culture for bad things. Its stupid and ignorant, people are just trying to shift the blame to something they cannot control directly. Many types of metal and other rock talk about violence and suicide, so how is emo any different? Chill out about what people listen to, and start looking at the people and not what they liked or didnt like. I like emo, deal with it. Would I consider myself emo? No. The closest I get to that is my one pair of semi-tight jeans and my band t-shirts. Face it, some people like stuff you don't.

[SOUPerman432321]

1.Music Doesn't cause deaths.
2.Emo=Emotional, Music without emotion isnt music
3.Saying a stereotypical emo band causes suicides is like saying a stereotypical metal band causes murders and homicides.
4. bashing emo is so ****ing stupid, "im not going to like whats popular! im going to listen to metal! Oh, its popular in the metal society to hate emo, i hate emo!" I see a contradiction, i like emo and metal, i listen to hawthorne heights and metallica (don't ****ing bash me on only liking popular bands, if i put out municipal waste two ****ing ppl would know who im talking about) i listen to alot of music, i hate how you claim to be musicians, then hate on emo, idc if its not as hard to play on the guitar, its still music, and it posseses a catchiness that most metal lacks. basically just stfu.

Also why would ug post this artical? its pointless and just gives all the *******s who think dimebag did something productive to the art of guitar playing a chance to come out and hate everyone and everything popular.

[Ali-b912]

razors2blades wrote:

this is sortve like the columbian massacre,, cept a different artist in music,,

it was columbine. and its completely different what happened there.

[razors2blades]

90% of suicide is caused by depression, it is an illness,, and most of them aint emo, suicide rates peaked when the great depression or better known as the stockmarket crash caused alot of business men and woman to commit suicide because they lost alot of money and\or what they owned incl. houses, furniture, etc. so dont blame suicide on the "emo" thing happening now because it isnt at fault, it is an illness in the person, either depression or physcotic-ness

[SOUPerman432321]

takotakumi wrote:

whoever said that MCR was metal,you either dont have a brain or dont know the true meaning of good and heavy music.Emo is just as ****ed up and retarded as other shitty ass music, like rap or regueton.It doesnt suprise me that those gay emo kids kill themselves, i mean, who wouldnt commit suicide if they looked like complete gayass,horrific,purple-pink mother****er? haha
LONG LIVE METAL

This is the kind of ******* i was talking about

[jthm_guitarist]

AAAAAHHHAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAA*

*This laughter is aimed at The Man, who is once again trying to link music to suicide. NOT a dead little girl.

[Ali-b912]

SOUPerman432321 wrote:

This is the kind of ***** i was talking about

yeah some metalheads are ignorant ****ers. its sad because some metal music has more meaning then most any other genre can portray.

[Auals]

Angelic_Demon wrote:

People don't become depressed by depressive music, depressed people just start listening to depressive music. Same goes for suicidal music

Well some songs can **** me up pretty bad... A few Death Cab songs, etc etc put me in such a melancholy mood. But I get your point.

razors2blades wrote:

90% of suicide is caused by depression, it is an illness,, and most of them aint emo, suicide rates peaked when the great depression or better known as the stockmarket crash caused alot of business men and woman to commit suicide because they lost alot of money and\or what they owned incl. houses, furniture, etc. so dont blame suicide on the "emo" thing happening now because it isnt at fault, it is an illness in the person, either depression or physcotic-ness

Both of you are right in the long run. There has to be other factors in there. Much worse factors, like maybe the fact that her parents caer so little about her life that they're blaming music which as some other guy said is probably the only thing that kept her alive this long.

And no way in hell is MCR good enough, or depressing enough to induce suicide, no offense to them, I like some of their stuff but no way in hell.

Personally, I doubt she was listening to music at all when she died. I think it's pure bullshit that they're blaming music.

On the other side, I'm sad that she died, I'm sorry that she didn't feel like she could trust anyone enough to tell them. I hope the parents come out of shock and don't blame a band for doing something they love. I swear, if they sue MCR... this could be catastrophic.

Imagine if people who write music can suddenly become liable for people's reactions...

[cole_cinnamon]

OMG this whole thing is ****ing stupid BAD PARENTING caused her death and if she wants to believe that suicide is "glamourous" thats her ****ing mental problem

[Anno[fzk]]

Chop_Suey92 wrote:

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.


Suicidal tendencies of the Emo lifestyle and music is just a stereotype. That girl could have bought into that, and been persuaded to think that suicide was part of the Emo subculture. The only reason suicide is thought to be a part of Emo is because ignorant people make it out to be.
Some of you people are so insensitive when it comes to things such as suicide. You make fun of it and alot of you people go around and taunt kids and make them want to kill themselves. Its those kind of kids that are the weak and the ones that are losers because they feel they have to stomp on someone to make themselves bigger, and doing that makes the smaller person feel hopeless. Believe me, I think the Emo hype is a little dumb, but overall, people are going to be who they want to be.
Its not the kids fault or the parents fault, its the ones who make fun of the "outsider" kid.

MCR is not emo. They aren't much more than an alternative pop-punk band with overused teen angst and personal relationships as lyrical themes.

As for the girl that killed herself, my condolences go to her family. But I'm more than certain that "emo" was what drove her to kill herself. Could be family problems. I wouldn't be able to say accurately.

[megadeth rule]

well they're emo now.

[Justinocalypse]

What are they going to say next porn causes masterbation?

[pompy]

hey nip nip

[mason092]

Yeah! The music made her do it. It couldn't have been her own stupid idea.

Emo kids will make up reason why their life sucks, and do anything to be "emo." It's sad that she killed herself, but it was her fault, not the music.

[lt22]

okay 1st of all music should not be blamed for causing this suicide.
also MCR is NOT emo. As stated by their lead singer, "Emo is $h!t".
However, MCR is definitely not the best band out there. I like a couple of their songs though.

and i agree with Chop_Suey92

SOUPerman432321 wrote:

1.Music Doesn't cause deaths.
2.Emo=Emotional, Music without emotion isnt music
3.Saying a stereotypical emo band causes suicides is like saying a stereotypical metal band causes murders and homicides.
4. bashing emo is so ****ing stupid, "im not going to like whats popular! im going to listen to metal! Oh, its popular in the metal society to hate emo, i hate emo!" I see a contradiction, i like emo and metal, i listen to hawthorne heights and metallica (don't ****ing bash me on only liking popular bands, if i put out municipal waste two ****ing ppl would know who im talking about) i listen to alot of music, i hate how you claim to be musicians, then hate on emo, idc if its not as hard to play on the guitar, its still music, and it posseses a catchiness that most metal lacks. basically just stfu.

Also why would ug post this artical? its pointless and just gives all the *****s who think dimebag did something productive to the art of guitar playing a chance to come out and hate everyone and everything popular.

SOUPerman432321 has the right idea.

[Regression]

metallicaforevr wrote:

I just want to say, FUCK YOU EMO MUSIC!
now you all know what it feels like being told your music assists suicide, just like they blamed metal music for columbine and other school shootings. kind of stupid right? maybe if these "emo" bands didnt fully promote hatred of ones life and parents, and borderline encourage self inflicted pain there would be a lot more happy people around here.

However i am really sorry to hear this young child felt that taking her own life was the route to take.

You'd actually find most 'emo' bands don't encourage killing yourself at all. You'd actually find it's the complete opposite. I don't think it's the music, I think it's the fans, because I listen to 'emo' occasionally, and I love my life/would never kill myself.

[Saffron_Inferno]

this is so ****ed up.i feel sorry for her family but wtf emo?god dam mcr r like pop punk and theyre causing suicides now

[lt22]

and to everyone who is bashing emo and calling it shit: you can shut up now. YOU might not like it but other people do. And I think the point has been made after the 20th person said they hated emo.
If you don't like it at least learn to appreciate it for what it is musically. Not ALL good music is confined to one genre or subgenre.

[darkangel24]

fans like her make me ashamed of being an MCR fan (inb4 "you should be ashamed being an MCR fan lolololol") I mean, condolence to the family, but seriously, MCR makes music, that's it. They aren't gods or anything; and fans should know that.
I won't go through the whole MCR aren't emo debate again, since I don't really have anything to justify it with plus people have already labeled them permanently as emo.

[guy_tebache]

If she was obsessive to the point of comitting suicide, then there was obviously somthing deeper going on there. I dont like emo music, but it can hardly be the sole cause of this girl's suicide.

razors2blades :
devourke wrote:

Emo is chucked around way too much, does anyone remember what its short for? EMOTIONAL!!!1!!1!!!1!ONE!!!!!ELEVEN!!!11!!! and is this in NZ?


i remember its short 4 that n btw kent is in america not NZ mate so yea the answer 2 ur question is no

There is more than one place called kent, it is also in NZ and a large area of england

[nickrawkz1]

razors2blades wrote:

devourke wrote:

Emo is chucked around way too much, does anyone remember what its short for? EMOTIONAL!!!1!!1!!!1!ONE!!!!!ELEVEN!!!11!!! and is this in NZ?

i remember its short 4 that n btw kent is in america not NZ mate so yea the answer 2 ur question is no

I agree. People have a very obscured vision of emo these days. They think it's more of a cult than the word "emotional", which everyone gets once in a while. My Chemical Romance if I remember correctly (which I do because I'm a big fan) was speaking out "AGAINST" suicide. But people these days twist it into something totally different.

[horloko]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

blasfemy!!!!
i have no words to describe the severity of the insult. i dont really care for MCR but it sure as hell isn't metal.

[tavi620]

first off, r.i.p.
secondly, and i havent looked over the thousands of comments so far so this may have been said multiple times but, this same shit happened with ozzy and his song "suicide solution" and though i cant stand emo music, its the same shit. i mean come on. music does NOT cause/contribute to suicide. on the contrary i think it helps people rationale intangible ideas. thus helping them express themselves

[hhwhat]

This comment will never be read in this sea of aimless, repetitive remarks. But if it should be read, let it be said the man who quoted Frank Zappa should have trumped this conversation into ending with his brilliance. Rest in peace Frank. You too, Hannah.

[RFer]

DREAM EVIL 1138 wrote:

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

They are not that bad...they have good catchy riffs and solos.
But anyway,these guys are against suicide and care a lot about teens, they shouldn't be blamed.

[Mistytario]

well I remember some sort of a case, of a guy who shot himself while listening to Ozzy(when he got kicked out of Sabbath)or Black Sabbath(I can't recall what band was) and people blamed the artists, well I think everyone has issues, but some people issues are worse and they should be taken seriously before things like this happen, what happened with the emo world is that it incitates self harm and suicide on people and in years like the girl who did this(RIP) we have a lot of stuff going on in our minds and our body and we could get caught in a maelstrom that could end into doing regretable stuff, plus maybe the "lots of friends" that Hannah had something to do with inciting her to do such acts.

[Adarsh]

Emo, once upon a time, stood for Emotional Music, describing bands like Fugazi and Rites of Springs.

Listen to them, compare it to the current crop of "emo" bands, and make your decisions.

[dickass]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

blasfemy!!!!
i have no words to describe the severity of the insult. i dont really care for MCR but it sure as hell isn't metal.

i agree man, MCR is not metal. i don't care if they think they are. they aren't going to destroy it.

[petrina_678]

its so sad.. nobody deserves to die at 13.

MCR does not make people want to die.
she already had issues.
You cant say the EMO was the reason she killed herself, unless she said it herself, which see did not. People just assumed that music was at fault, and not her parents,or friends or any other reason.

[dickass]

Also, I've noticed the people defending emo music have bad grammar and unnecessarily abbreviate words and all those shannanagins (however the hell you spell that). they just kinda make themselves sound retarded and inconsequential.

[Devin_the_Devil]

This is ****ing bullshit.

"Emo" has been so generalized and overused that, now, it can be used to describe any kind of music. Yeah, Metallica's emo because they wrote "Nothing Else Matters", or The Smashing Pumpkin's whole catolog must have been a precursor to emo!

Look...The girl killed herself. Gerard Way didn't. Neither did Billie Joe or Pete Wentz. Blame the parents, look at her friends, or just plain blame the girl for being so impressionable.

I will say this, though. There are other factors. She might have been assaulted. She might have been dumped. Futurama might have been cancelled. Her total life may have been shit and her parents maybe couldent have known. In the end, suicide rests on one person. May she rest in peace, as she was obviously very troubled, but her parents need to mourn their loss silently.

[YetAnotherMuso]

^+1...it's like Ozzy and "Suicide Solution" all over again...just a new generation of dickheads that want a convenient scapegoat and have no idea of the real causes of suicide, namely feelings of isolation...emo is crap, but it doesn't deserve this...and has nobody heard of the concept of satire?? For example, "Dead!" is dripping with it, "wouldn't it be great if we were dead?"...is NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY PEOPLE!! gosh.

[BlinkMe-Rancid]

I don't know why My Chemical Romance is labeled emo. None of their songs are really about hating themselves. If they wanted to use a good example for a mainstream band maybe the Used? The lyrics in some of their songs hmm?

Anyway i think that she was over obsessed with the whole idea of "emo" and took it the wrong way. Like what her father said about "an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony". That just shows she was lost in the craze and had no idea what she was doing

[13brx7]

surely this isn't the first time this has happened

[razors2blades]

13brx7 wrote:

surely this isn't the first time this has happened

there have been other things liek this happen like with the bayside rollers (or something like that) where they broke up cos someone had killed themselves nt hey got blamed and that n theres the columbine massacre with marilyn manson one of the guys were depressed other one was recognized as phsycotic so you dont have to be emo to commit suicide like ive said so many times before in this thing

[monty-g-3]

HAHAHAAHAHHAA yehhh they should blame that pussy ****in' genre

[boxcarblink94]

RIP Hannah...

but everyone who blames music needs to join her.

[Greg Harper]

I despise 'emo' music and all it's connotations but I don't believe it is SOLELY to blame. It wouldnt surprise me if it had some input though. I mean all these young suicides in Wales was it, a few monts ago?

Anyways RIP. May this be a lesson learnt though you all you half wits who get depressed over FUCK ALL!

Regards.

[henza_x]

hmm i must of never listened to EMO music coz i've never wanted to kill myself.. Just them for making annoying songs.

That being said i guess its all down to interpretation

[FFTL17]

what are people talking about?

any kinda music can commit crime, even video games can commit crime

its stupid how everthing is labelled and that "emo" is as issue ove suicide ruling. think back to the time of ozzy osbourne where he was blamed for a killing of a teenage boy and away from music think to manhung the game where a boy was killed by another boy

its the way the person mind is and if its messed up to think that suicide is good, then obvs they havent been brought up properly

[AXE187]

yeah..... and playing GTA made me become a career criminal.....

[FrenchyFungus]

Checked

[StoneColdCrazy]

Just tonight, right now on the news here in Australia, they spoke of a study that was just completed that showed that teenage suicide was down 5% on last year and over 10% down from a decade ago.

Now if emo is such a massive culture, and the supposed "emo" music, so popular, shouldn't these figures be going up?? It's all a lie, pretty much every band in the history of rock has written an "emo" song, just listen to 'Yesterday' by the Beatles. Or 'Nothing Compares 2 U' by Prince. Or yes, even 'Fade To Black', the most "emo" song ever written, "death greets me warm, now I will just say goodbye".

Now if there were so many emo suicide guidebooks out there, from all the bands, over all the years, there would've been an epidemic in the last 4 decades, and their simply hasn't been. DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!

[sebbowen]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

Couldn't agree with you more, mate.

[true_bacon22]

It says she was normal and lots of friends so she was probably just a spoiled brat with no excuse but attention. Now tons of idiot tweens are going to see how people feel sorry for you and like you better and increase the rate. Bitch...
Feel bad for the parents though.

[razors2blades]

would every1 SHUT THE FUCK UP! bout emos being shit n having no friends or that ok, i get called emo a ****in lot n yet I have lots of friends, i do not wish 2 kill myself, even though im not an emo so stop sayin shit bout emo's, theyre just like everyone else really, except theyre different in looks and personality, but hey, if every1 was the same itd be boring, also take note, the emo looking people usually are way hotter then others,, Note: I didnt say all, i said most

[MXFNCK]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

EXACTLY my opinion, very well put

[vivaladavid]

Of course the music isn't completely to blame, but the music does bring out some peoples emotions. When your emotionally high you do regrettable things.

[l3xbi]

browar wrote:

Songs, even the worst, can't make people commit suicide.

Depends how many times you've heard their BASTARD SONGS!

[irishman]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

While i agree that you can't blame a genre of music for the kids death, there's no way you can blame the parents for the kids death either; all teenages are moody and usually will keep as far away from the parents as possible. So even if they ever tried to approcah her she would have told them to piss off. Though the previous episode of self harm should have been an indication that she needed help. But you can blame mcdonalds for obesity and cigarette companiies for lung diseases. That fast food is so full of artifical chemicals to make it taste better that it is so bad for your body, like that guy from "supersize me" who nearly died after eating McDonalds for a month, and as for cigarette companies, they are pure f*~#ing evil, they make cigarettes highly addicitve while at the same putting seriously toxic chemicals into them, so it's impossible to quit (well nearly anyway) but they will end up killing you.

[irishman]

also, I'm not some sort of emo crusader, I for one can't stand the music, but, hey, whatever floats your boat.

RIP Hannah

[GregMisiakk]

surya22 wrote:

First of all, R.I.P.
This is like Ozzy and Judas Priest all over again

beat me to it. either way, yeah; this is just like initian for a genre of music: trials.

[Tster]

R.I.P
But music isn't to blame. A mix of different elements of how she saw the world, friends, school. Whatever.

[maogall]

It's not even real "emo" music.
But yeah, it's sad and a bit stupid.

[Kozlic]

music can be the reason. But I doubt.
For example...maby something could happend to her.
maby she was dating a boy and he broke up with her or something...I don't tell these kind of things to my parents...ok..I'm a boy...but my female friends does neither...and they can blame music as much as they want...but 'till emo music is a good source of money, it won't stop.

[rgt42dx]

dont blame the girl the band the parents, BE AWARE

[skindred]

first off, RIP.

secondly, i can see where the parents are coming from, the emo scene now is going along the same path as the grunge and nu-metal scene in the 90s, its something which cant be stopped because of the music, its the fashion in a sense. yeah the music can contribute to self harm, i know that first hand from when i was 16, i got bullied at school and i used to go home and listen to "scissors" - slipknot , "falling away from me" - korn for example n it did get me in the mind frame to do some silly shit, but what doesnt kill you makes you stronger and i've learnt from that and become stronger.

but music isn't solely to blame, in my opinion it just heightens whatever emotion your going through at the time. its just sad to hear the poor girl couldnt get through that tough part of her life.

[cobalt]

last I checked it wasn't the coroner's job to determine the psychological state/causes of suicide. That might be the biggest issue here - some one untrained in forensic psychology (or even basic psychology for that matter) is diagnosing the mental state of the deceased.

[Black Revolver]

i dont believe this lol
how can a coroner give the reason for death as a certain genre of music?
thats just being totally ignorant to other issues which most likely to cause this.
the music industry has enough on its hands already with downloading and leaking problems, let alone being blamed for suicides.

R.I.P

[hew-jass]

I read this in the paper and my reaction is just the same now aas it was then. its a shame that the girl killed herself n all at the age of thirteen

but ....

you cant go around blaming music for peoples deaths. ok in some occasions like when fans are crushed to death in arenas like what has happened to guns n roses n acdc but this is just ridiculous.

it says in the paper that the girl was part of an emo cult on the internet and that they believed the greatest resting place was "The Black Parade" when they die....

heres a thought. the retards should grow the **** up and listen to music for the reason it was made. TO LISTEN TO. Im pretty mure MCR didnt go oh lets make a record thatll make kids want to kill themselves.

As much as i hate emo i like my chemical romances stuff to listen to. But stupid little thirteen year olds that think "ooooohhhh lets go and kill ourselves so we can go to the black parade" really have got to get a grip

[fitter.happier.]

for you who are blaming the parents, how often have u told your parents to **** off because you thought they were controlling your life?
im not saying its the childs fault (she probably didnt know what she was getting into) or the fault of the music (i only have mcr to go by and they pretty tame imo), just a point to consider.

[Licorice]

Music does influence society- wearing your 'pants below your waist' and 'slitting your wrists' wasnt cool until emo and rap was popularized. But, at the same time the girl, and her parents were pretty stupid.
Yeah, suicide is sooo cool. Too bad your not alive to enjoy your coolness. :/

[henza_x]

razors2blades wrote:

would every1 SHUT THE FUCK UP! bout emos being shit n having no friends or that ok, i get called emo a ****in lot n yet I have lots of friends, i do not wish 2 kill myself, even though im not an emo so stop sayin shit bout emo's, theyre just like everyone else really, except theyre different in looks and personality, but hey, if every1 was the same itd be boring, also take note, the emo looking people usually are way hotter then others,, Note: I didnt say all, i said most

piss off your rant makes no sense. who ****ing cares about how many friends. Your not emo, your a ****in poser now piss off

[HammettHead]

Yeah... Because Emo music is the sole cause of Teenage Depression?

Nice one xD

I think people stupid enough to think death is glamourous are probably not worth the effort of helping, yeah fair does that Emo might contribute to that, but anyone who believes it to that extent is an idiot. God bless natural selection.

[HammettHead]

henza_x wrote:

razors2blades wrote:

would every1 SHUT THE FUCK UP! bout emos being shit n having no friends or that ok, i get called emo a ****in lot n yet I have lots of friends, i do not wish 2 kill myself, even though im not an emo so stop sayin shit bout emo's, theyre just like everyone else really, except theyre different in looks and personality, but hey, if every1 was the same itd be boring, also take note, the emo looking people usually are way hotter then others,, Note: I didnt say all, i said most

piss off your rant makes no sense. who ****ing cares about how many friends. Your not emo, your a ****in poser now piss off

... How are emos the same as everyone else is they differ in looks and personality?

But if Emo isn't some sort of insult these days why do you so readily deny being Emo? With a screen name like Razors2Blades, you can hardly help but wonder.

[Shuei5]

I think she committed suicide because noone would take her seriously. They all said "it's because she's a teenager" or "it's just a fashion state". Somebody should have listened to her, instead of just saying "oh that's normal for a teen"

[nolson44]

its still just stupid
emo music isnt to blame
the same thing happened to metal
music doesnt infuluence you
thats like saying that GTA is responsible for all murder in the world
its bullS***
this is just screwed up
RIP Hannah Bond

[nolson44]

alex w b wrote:

this is unbelievable.
all these comments are about "emo sucks" or "emos are stupid".
do u think that this article is just here so anti-emos can make fun of emo?
if u do get ur head out of ur ass, and maybe go get a life while ur at it.
i mean SOMEONE DIED. is it that hard to get?

THANK YOU
finally someone understands
+100000

[uhh_me?]

checked.

EMO BASHING AND MOCKING THIS GIRL'S DEATH WILL RESULT IN BANNING.

[EmoRocker19510]

[quote]strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

lol they blamed McD's in SuperSize me haha

[Axe_Burner]

frankv wrote:

Red33 wrote:

I think the idea is that the emo subculture glamourises suicide.

I fully agree with that statement, although most of the responsibility falls on her parents, who were apparently oblivious to the path she was on. They had the power to change things, they knew about the girl's previous self-harm, and yet they blame the music instead of themselves? WTF?!
If the parents were more involved in the girl's life they could have saved her.

[x-Death-Bunny-x]

you guys all need to realise that a little girl died!!!!! so shut the fudge up dissin the music too....i dont think gerard way or pete wentz said 'go kill yourself' to anyone...it was the girls own choice but at the end of the day..it was a tragic event..r.i.p hannah

[Sublime Stylee]

Why blame the parents? for young teens family life often is a small influence compared to other aspects of the environment such as friends and social trends and values.

[ElectroKiddo]

My Chem can't have been linked to her death as if she was a real fan of the band she would have realised that,
1. They are NOT emo.
and,
2. They encourage people to enjoy their lives and NOT to commit suicide..

[AngryGoldfish]

The first band to make it huge in the emo industry was Smashing Pumpkins. I'm sure there are other acts out there that were well before Pumpkins, but yet no one classes them as emo like you would Fall Out Boy. Emo means emotional, Fall Out Boy isn't anywhere near as emotional as Pumpkins, neither are MCR. There good bands but not that sad and emotional.
I wish people would stop seeing emo as the wrong type of musical genre. Emo is not just bands with long fringes&black fingerless gloves with the pink teddy bear eyes on fire, its a fashion statement, its a way of life for some and we should respect their choices. Emo is grunge, emo is punk, emo is metal, emo is pop, emo is rock. MCR are punk, Fall Out Boy is pop, Nirvana is grunge, HIM is metal. Emo music has so many different genres its too vague to call one band emo, and the bands themselves will disagree with you if you call them solely emo, some will be insulted.

[skiers_rock]

Josh Laiho wrote:

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **


Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P

Yeah, that is bad when parents have to bury their own children.

But it's funny that emo bands are being blamed for this. I hate emo music it is so boring and stupid. It would also make me want to kill myself.

emo bands shouldnt be blamed for any of this. these guys write music that THEY like, and hope other people like it too. thats what bands do. if someone thinks cutting themselves makes them cool, thats their ****ing problem. if they want to kill themselves to be emo, the have ****ing ISSUES

[ekord123]

First of all emo isn't even a type of music mcr is alternative, 2nd of all suicide is the most selfish thing you can do and i have no sympathy for the girl, last of all i feel bad for the parents but they just need to realize that their daughter was screwed up and not blame it on a certain type of music

[guitar_hero543]

80% lousy parenting, 20% emo music = girl commiting suicide.....sad world, very sad

[Chozz]

Cheesepuff wrote:

Emo music doesnt cause death. Thats like saying that obese people are fat because of Mcdonalds. This was a result of bad parenting, like many suicides supposedly related to music. Notice how they didn't disclose any reason or detail to the public about the suicide itself and what might have caused it and just blamed it on a trend. MCR's songs aren't even depressing, and MCR themselves also deny emo, depression, and cutting yourself. In fact, the music may have been one of the happiest aspects of her life.

I hope everybody that bashes MCR here, saying they suck balls, and using this suicide as a means to justify themselves die of cancer.

Pull your head out of your ****ing ass man, grab a tissue and wipe the shit off your eyes.

Your forgetting the fact a vast percentage of people ARE obese because of McDonalds and other Companies like, fatty foods e.t.c

It's also the same with this genre of music. You can blame this Genre of music for these kinds of events stated in this article. I don't take away the right for people to listen to this music, Everyone is entitled to listen to what they want.

The fact is, EMO music has a lifestyle within itself (for example like the Goth lifestyle), and you can easily become obsessed with what everyone is saying is cool, what they see on the music videos, the lyrics.. and for example the "Death Certificates" that they are going to publish with the album "the black parade is DEAD".

And it's a bit harsh telling people to die of cancer.

[lauren_in_peace]

some of you people seriously P*SS me off!
a young girl has KILLED herself and you're all,
oh if only everyone who listened to emo music would kill themselves... GROW THE F*CK UP!
she's gone, never to return... do NOT! pin this on her favourite band... did they come to her and say 'Hannah kill youself'? NO! it is NOT their fault, a lot of you are SO freaking ignorant! you haven't given them a chance, you dont get their message... they work to prevent self harm and suicide not promote it, FOR F*CKS SAKE! if you can't be respectful then just don't bother, if you killed yourself would you want it pinned on your favourite band? NO! now people think seriously,just have a heart, a young girl is dead... has a heart and pray for her and her family.
Rest In Peace Hananah, you're in my thoughts =]
may you look over the world you have left

[alex w b]

Captain Insano wrote:

So her parents thought an emo self-harm inatiation was normal? Are they sane?

\

lol...EXACTLY F**KIN RIGHT

[alex w b]

there are some things money cant buy (happiness) but hey, look on the bright side, for everything else we still have MASTERCARD!!!!!

[alex w b]

lauren_in_peace wrote:

some of you people seriously P*SS me off!
a young girl has KILLED herself and you're all,
oh if only everyone who listened to emo music would kill themselves... GROW THE F*CK UP!
she's gone, never to return... do NOT! pin this on her favourite band... did they come to her and say 'Hannah kill youself'? NO! it is NOT their fault, a lot of you are SO freaking ignorant! you haven't given them a chance, you dont get their message... they work to prevent self harm and suicide not promote it, FOR F*CKS SAKE! if you can't be respectful then just don't bother, if you killed yourself would you want it pinned on your favourite band? NO! now people think seriously,just have a heart, a young girl is dead... has a heart and pray for her and her family.
Rest In Peace Hananah, you're in my thoughts =]
may you look over the world you have left

so , what, this is the only other person who listens to mcr whos read this article besides me?

[alex w b]

Chozz wrote:

Cheesepuff wrote:

Emo music doesnt cause death. Thats like saying that obese people are fat because of Mcdonalds. This was a result of bad parenting, like many suicides supposedly related to music. Notice how they didn't disclose any reason or detail to the public about the suicide itself and what might have caused it and just blamed it on a trend. MCR's songs aren't even depressing, and MCR themselves also deny emo, depression, and cutting yourself. In fact, the music may have been one of the happiest aspects of her life.

I hope everybody that bashes MCR here, saying they suck balls, and using this suicide as a means to justify themselves die of cancer.


Pull your head out of your ****ing ass man, grab a tissue and wipe the shit off your eyes.

Your forgetting the fact a vast percentage of people ARE obese because of McDonalds and other Companies like, fatty foods e.t.c

It's also the same with this genre of music. You can blame this Genre of music for these kinds of events stated in this article. I don't take away the right for people to listen to this music, Everyone is entitled to listen to what they want.

The fact is, EMO music has a lifestyle within itself (for example like the Goth lifestyle), and you can easily become obsessed with what everyone is saying is cool, what they see on the music videos, the lyrics.. and for example the "Death Certificates" that they are going to publish with the album "the black parade is DEAD".

And it's a bit harsh telling people to die of cancer.

so , hey what song does mcr have telling people tp DIE OF CANCER? ill tell u...NONE, YOU STUPID F**K...i no, ive heard them all. just because the song is called cancer doesnt mean its all "go die of cancer". the song by bfmv called hit the floor...omg are they singing about actually smacking the floor???. that might hurt its feelings!!!!!...o my god...why dont you at least find out a little bit about this band before you start bashing it, cuz all u r now is WRONG...

[alex w b]

hey guys, guess what!!!!! if emo bands really thought klilling themselves was cool...THERED BE NO F**KING EMO BANDS...it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that out...

[alex w b]

ElectroKiddo wrote:

My Chem can't have been linked to her death as if she was a real fan of the band she would have realised that,
1. They are NOT emo.
and,
2. They encourage people to enjoy their lives and NOT to commit suicide..

thank you...we have 3 smart people here now

[alex w b]

l3xbi wrote:

browar wrote:

Songs, even the worst, can't make people commit suicide.


Depends how many times you've heard their BASTARD SONGS!

**** you...im sure youve heard all sorts of songs over and over again about sex and youre still never gettin laid!!!!

[razors2blades]

ive got a few things to say bout the so called "emo" music,,
1. Emo is short for Emotional
2. songs without emotion arent really songs
3. any and all music out there has got emotion in it
4. all music must therefore be Emo songs cos without emotion in the songs theyre not emo songs
plz ppl dnt be so stupid to think that emo music can be classified as 1 genre e.g death metal (using as an example not saying its emo)
Eminem MUST therefore, be writing and singing emo songs since he adds emotion and writes alot of his songs on things that have happened in his life,,
its always sad when sum1 dies
R.I.P Hannah +-

[ThnksFrThEmo]

Oh bullshit. I heard about this, those stupid parents said their daughter thought that when she killed herself she'd join the Black Parade and walk with MCR forever. If she did, I'm pretty sure she's insane.

Also, emo is emotive hardcore, not emotional.

MCR isn't emo, FYI.

[alonewithguitar]

I'm a new member here but I've always been an avid UG visitor. Anyway, it's really sad to know that someone so young killed herself, which also kind of bothers me because she got "influenced" by the music that she listens to. Uhm, why are all of the news about her have MCR in them? MCR didn't tell her "go kill yourself" and they don't promote suicide.

This might be a stupid thing to say (don't hate me) but did anyone ever commit suicide after hearing Sean Kingston's "Beautiful Girls" (probably because of relationship/courtship problems) regardless of the music being reggae/not emo? I mean, it's more extreme than popular "emo" music coz the idea of suicide is clearly mentioned in the song - "you make me suicidal". Just a thought.

[bloody lie x]

blame MCR? wow how stupid can people get. it is very tragic but you cant blame music, its her own fault.

[mo4form]

If they wanna commit suicide they would be doing us both a favor, frail ass mother****ers who are so bored and faceless they have to be the hugest conformists of all time adapting personalities just to be in groups of pathetic people.
and saying they're fake doesn't make you any better, since 400 million people said that already.

But this is a good sign my friends, finally a subculture where huge amounts of people commit suicide! AMAZING!