Emo Suicides

In the aftermath of the deaths of teenagers Jodie Gater and Stephanie Gestier, psychologists have urged the community to avoid simplistic conclusions.

For sometimes there are no conclusions to be had. Suicide can be provoked by one brief and terrible moment or an overwhelming succession of terrible events; in the absence of a note, pinpointing a cause may be impossible.

Commentators have referred to Jodie and Stephanie's cyber activities and their love of emo music. Some ill-informed, poorly researched and deliberately stupid TV and radio types have blamed a contemporary rock sub-genre for the girls' decision to end their lives.

Few in the media seeking to identify emo as a motivator for suicide have been to a gig, bought an album or have a clue about the sub-genre.

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Comments

[rush4life]

Sad news, poorly written story.

[IlikeMetal]

I think that emo music and its subculture is peculiar to say the least, and anyone who takes the lyrics of any song seriously (this goes for anyone, with any type of music)is not right in the head to begin with. The same goes for people who buy into the depressive life style.

[IlikeMetal]

O and i bet if they had been really into jazz, this story would never have seen the light of day.

[shoopdawhoop]

i dont think emo music made them kill themselves. most of that music isnt very miserable anyway, a lot of people have just got the wrong idea about it. i dont like emo music however i dont have a problem with it, the thing i hate is that people associate it with depression and suicide. depression is a real illness and idiots going round labeling people 'emo' does not help anything.

[rockontilludie]

Emos just want people to feel sorry for them, they just want attention, I dont think it relates to the music. Of course when something death related happens, the music is always blamed, examples would be columbine, the ozzy osbourne related suicide,The Judas Priest related suicide, etc.

[whos_jac]

^ Because that's an intelligent remark...

But what a surprise; once again, alternative music takes the blame.

To prevent any future confusion whos_jac's "^ Because that's an intelligent remark..." was to a now deleted comment.

[lukephillips000]

IlikeMetal wrote:

I think that emo music and its subculture is peculiar to say the least, and anyone who takes the lyrics of any song seriously (this goes for anyone, with any type of music)is not right in the head to begin with. The same goes for people who buy into the depressive life style.

i think that is a very stupid comment to make.
why should words in music not be taken seriously?
some lyrics actually make educated points, and are not stories or nonsense.
You cant make generalisations like that.

[IlikeMetal]

lukephillips000 wrote:

IlikeMetal wrote:

I think that emo music and its subculture is peculiar to say the least, and anyone who takes the lyrics of any song seriously (this goes for anyone, with any type of music)is not right in the head to begin with. The same goes for people who buy into the depressive life style.

i think that is a very stupid comment to make.
why should words in music not be taken seriously?
some lyrics actually make educated points, and are not stories or nonsense.
You cant make generalisations like that.

well i ment, but didn't say, music that is violent( like cannibal corpse), and/or suicidal (like Sentenced)

[gsr2k6]

Did like somebody hack the site and post this? Dosent seem like something so poorly written just to defend emo would be in the news...

[classicrocker10]

we had like 3 kids in my high school commit suicide just in this school year. and all of them listen to that emo crap. i feel bad for the families and stuff but they listened to bad music. not blamin it on the music tho...just thought the article kinda connected.

[dertjoe]

with lyrics like cut my wrists and black my eyes i wonder where they got the idea?

Checked/De-Spammed/Warning Distributed.

[bobross]

whoever the editor of these news reports is, i want to know, what in the hell is wrong with you? How do expect more than around 5 mature or logical comments to end up on this board? its sad news, but not right for the average UG joe.

[Hidde]

"
But what a surprise; once again, alternative music takes the blame."

I'd saay emo's pretty mainstream

[Eddy Hitler]

its got nuthin 2 do w/ the genre of music, and if it does, its not d musicians. they dont make ppl kill themseleves. simple as that!

[ChrisForce]

dumbasses. EMO DOESNT STAND FOR EMOTIONAL..it stands for EMOTIVE, as in emotive HARDCORE punk, not some lame halfass alternitave kids in hottopic clothing.oh and i prefer to call their "emo" music scene, cause thats all it is. these teenagers (and some 10 thousand others) seem to know crap about music. sad sad sad

[Grimme]

Theres a difference between mainstream and popular.
For example Slipknot are "mainstream" in that most have heard of them, yet most people dislike their perceived extreme style and so they are "alternative" [not necessarily matching the genre].
Again, we describe a lot of bands as "alternative rock" yet they are still quite mainstream.

[saty]

guitar_dood69 :
MAybe if EMo music didnt suck so much then people wouldn't kill themselves when they have to listen to it

although you're being a bit harsh, you made me laugh...

as for the suicide problem, ppl just need to blame anything to feel better about themselves (in this case, music is the culprit), while hiding the real issues that might have motivated this kind of suicidal behaviour (such as deficient education, drug usage, depression as in mental illness etc)..

[korn_dawg]

psychologists have urged the community to avoid simplistic conclusions

I like how the title of this article does that..

[Kaininmich]

people need to learn how to deal with their problems.. it may be alot at a time.. but... Suicide is a permement solution for a temporary problem..

[PsYkO_kiLLa90]

Kaininmich wrote:

people need to learn how to deal with their problems.. it may be alot at a time.. but... Suicide is a permement solution for a temporary problem..

i read that on a poster in my health class.

[scarfacesuit]

i don't like emo music personally, but i don't think it would cause someone to kill themself. that's just the work of an ignorant politician. people who kill themselves have deep psychological issues, and i doubt that they would be any different if they listened to Relient K or Cartel or any other upbeat pop bands.

[MoonBoots432]

dertjoe wrote:

with lyrics like cut my wrists and black my eyes i wonder where they got the idea?

Quoted for Truth.

[MoonBoots432]

Kaininmich wrote:

people need to learn how to deal with their problems.. it may be alot at a time.. but... Suicide is a permement solution for a temporary problem..

Why wouldn't you want a permanent solution for a temporary problem? I wouldn't want a half assed solution than doesn't work fully, or one that isn't around in case the "temporary problem" comes back. I want a solution that's going to be good, forever. Those posters are stupid.

KirbyCHECKEDandroll

[PsYkO_kiLLa90]

MoonBoots432 wrote:

Kaininmich wrote:

people need to learn how to deal with their problems.. it may be alot at a time.. but... Suicide is a permement solution for a temporary problem..


Why wouldn't you want a permanent solution for a temporary problem? I wouldn't want a half assed solution than doesn't work fully, or one that isn't around in case the "temporary problem" comes back. I want a solution that's going to be good, forever. Those posters are stupid.

even though that is a good point sometimes you can get over a problem later and think how stupid the problem seems to you later and continue on with your life but if you kill yourself theres no coming back over something you felt strongly about right then but will later realise how wrong you were in thinking that way. I heard of a girl who was like 12 who hung herself because her dad wouldn't buy her a ps2.

[sum41freak8733]

music doesnt make you kill yourself you kill yourself .....its that simple you have problems there is a bunch of ways to deal with them and half of the bands stupid ass kids call emo usually are songs about hope and NOT killing yourself although there are some bands .....you have a choice .....now im going to sound like an ass and i know people that commit suicide but i think its pathetic unless your in darfur dying from starvation i really think its stupid to kill yourself there are people that have worse lives than you do i can guarantee it

[saty]

it can even be considered a selfish action... kids put away there lives without thinking about everyone close to them... it must be terrible for their parents !

[misirlou]

first of all, i'm no fan of emo music. i think it's uninspired and repetitive. however, to assume that a musical genre drove anyone to suicide just because they happened to be a fan of it is asinine. if that were the case, the death toll would have reached catastrophic levels by now, because teenagers who listen to emo are in the majority these days.

[RyanMcCartney]

They're a couple of idiotic girls.

F*CK THEM.

Not literally... unless you're into Necrophilia lol.

[GeekStinkBreath]

This is easily the stupidest thing I've ever read on UG. No contest.

[Nor'Easterbass]

GeekStinkBreath wrote:

This is easily the stupidest thing I've ever read on UG. No contest.

+1. You guys can't find better articles? Even better FILLER articles? come on.

[Havenspear]

God, who posts this crap?

[the_small_guy]

just because this artical realtes to them listening to emo music, that proves thats why they did it HOW?

i'll admit like said above, some of the lyrics are very controversial of you will like hawthorne heights "cut my wrists and black my eyes" but it doesnt mean that is the exactly cause of these girls suicides.

The music itself is very negitive and i do think it has SOME effect on the youth of today. For example i think that a lot of the rap music made today has an effect on all the kids growing up shooting people, lyrics from things like 50 cent and the game or DMX or w/e!
emo music = suicide? maybe theres a link, or an influence at least, but not a direct REASON!

and for the record i listen to some emo music and ive never wanted to kill myself

[Grebble]

[quote=GeekStinkBreath]They're a couple of idiotic girls.

F*CK THEM.

Not literally... unless you're into Necrophilia lol.[/quote]
That really was a heartless comment.
Those girls would have had family members/close friends that will miss them and there is no way of them being brought back. However, I do believe suicide isn't a wise decision and affects many people.
Anyway, I do think it's extremely stupid and ignorant to blame suicide on a music subgenre. I'm not trying to defend emos or anything (not that I really have anything against them or the music) but I do believe it is just music, it shouldn't be blamed for the ending of lives.

[DEVILMAN 2012]

the_small_guy wrote:

just because this artical realtes to them listening to emo music, that proves thats why they did it HOW?

i'll admit like said above, some of the lyrics are very controversial of you will like hawthorne heights "cut my wrists and black my eyes" but it doesnt mean that is the exactly cause of these girls suicides.

The music itself is very negitive and i do think it has SOME effect on the youth of today. For example i think that a lot of the rap music made today has an effect on all the kids growing up shooting people, lyrics from things like 50 cent and the game or DMX or w/e!
emo music = suicide? maybe theres a link, or an influence at least, but not a direct REASON!

and for the record i listen to some emo music and ive never wanted to kill myself

i hav no sympathy for morons killing themselfs. specially over music. people who are that dum desearve to die..one less idiot to put up with

[Shabalaba]

Emo is one of those things i never got the principle of, i understand why they cut thereselfs, but it doesnt make sence, "To let the pain out" wtf, how does that make sence, it like medevil bloodletting to get rid of diesease, non sensicle. Is a shame about these girls but emo is a stupid fad

Ch3ck3d.

[longhornchad200]

That's the funniest thing I've read all day, then again that would make me kinda sick... eh.

[-Led-Zeppelin-]

all those 'emo' faggots piss me off, half of them do it just for the 'look' and nothings wrong with them. to the ones who actually suffer from depression, try different ways to block it out, working out does it for me. other ways could be reading, walking your dog, talking to someone. looking like a ghost wont make you feel any better about yourself and your situation. to all those who do it just for the look , **** you

[titsmcgee852]

Seriously guys, you are talking about two dead girls. Yes they are very stupid but im sure if they were your friends you wouldnt want people saying stuff like that. im not saying i kow them. emo music is stupid, gay and lame.

[Scum-bag Carrol]

http://groups.ultimate-guitar.com/antiemo/

[qwerty_555]

-Led-Zeppelin- wrote:
to the ones who actually suffer from depression, try different ways to block it out, working out does it for me. other ways could be reading, walking your dog, talking to someone.

Sounds easy, but it really isn't.

[koolfoolinapool]

excersize is a natural stress reliever.

so is crying lol