First Ever Prog Awards: The Winners

The first ever Prog Magazine Awards were held in London, UK last night.

Some of the biggest names in rock were at the event held in Kew Gardens, marking the first time progressive rock has been celebrated with a dedicated award ceremony.

The big winners were Rush who won Album Of The Year, Genesis who were recognised with the Lifetime Achievement Award, and Rick Wakeman who has been named the official Prog God.

Speaking to Prog Magazine, keyboardist Rick Wakeman said: "It’s about time prog got the respect it deserves for the way it’s created, and continues to create, some of the most important music around".

The event has sparked some previously unseen competition between icons from the prog world.

Steven Wilson and Opeth man Mikael Akerfeldt might be friends and collaborators, but both were nominated for the "Guiding Light" award and Mikael said it's brought out their competitive side. "I want to win," he said. "And I know Steve's the same." Bad luck Mikael - Steve won the award this time around!

Prog Magazine award winners:

New Blood: TesseracT

Live Event: Anathema

Grand Design: Pink Floyd "Immersion" reissues

Anthem: Squackett "A Life Within A Day"

Album Of The Year: Rush "Clockwork Angels"

Visionary: Peter Hammill

Lifetime Achievement: Genesis

Virtuoso: Carl Palmer

Guiding Light: Steven Wilson

Prog God: Rick Wakeman

Do you agree with the results? Who would you swap out? Let us know in the comments.

Comments

[iommi600]

VISIONARY: Peter Hammill

Fuck yeah! Van der Graaf Generator never seem to get the recognition it deserves...

[dennis.1960]

I saw Peter Hammill in San Francisco in 1990. Amazing show, intensity, he's got it...

[Tones2]

Most of the catagories are ridiculous. How about best artist of the year? Best song? Etc...

[Garland41]

Are there enough good prog bands out there to have a large enough category for best album, best artist or best song. Maybe they could hold those those catagories every few years. It's good that they are giving prog bands some spotlight for once, but the genre has many different sounds with few bands in between.

[crazysam23_Atax]

I doubt I'm the only prog fan who thinks things like "best album", "best artist", and "best song" are complete and utter bullshit. In most music awards shows that have those things, the only real reason someone wins those is because they sold the most stuff. I really would be disappointed if the Prog Awards started doing that too. Although, I admit, I'm disappointed to not see any newer prog bands on the list besides TessaracT.

[Tones2]

Are you kidding. I have 15,000 songs in iTunes, about 80%of which are progressive rock / metal. I buy about 30 new albums a year, which is about 1% of new prog music each year. There is PLENTY to choose from. These catagories were really lame - it's like something you see on the MTV awards.

[baumaxx1]

Not prog enough. =-P

[L2112Lif]

The awards are your basic awards with creative names attached.

New Blood - best new band

virtuoso - best player

God - HoF, legacy award

etc. You're just not prog enough to understand the depth.

[crazysam23_Atax]

Wouldn't "Lifetime Achievement" be the legacy award?

[L2112Lif]

Individual vs. band, I guess.

[Raven_Flight]

Nice to see some awards with relatively legit nominees and, ultimately, winners.
Nice to see Tesseract getting some recognition. Good for Anathem too, I went to a gig last year and it was damn intense.
And I guess Wilson deserved the award more than Mikael since he is three times more musically active than him, with his numerous projects and record producing.

[jonathan.keeler]

**** yeah! TesseracT

[bonjidonk]

I thinks it's awesome that prog is getting some recognition, but these are some weird award categories.

[mcmuffin999]

come on, its prog! a unique genre deserves unique categories

[The9]

A crap genre. Corrected you

[jfitch832]

I'm a huge TesseracT fan, but I would replace them with Animals As Leaders. TesseracT are amazing, but they've basically put out the same E.P. three times, just reworked slightly. Tosin from AAL could've also been selected as virtuoso. Rush deserves the lifetime achievement also.

[theogonia777]

Neither of them are particularly proggy though. In fact, very few of the modern bands touted about as "progressive rock/metal" are really progressive at all (BTBAM, Protest the Hero, etc). It's actually kind of disappointing how casually the term "progressive" is thrown around these days.

Hey, a band changes time signature a bunch of times, they're suddenly progressive. Oh look, they incorporated a couple of "jazz" chords and keyboards, they must be progressive. What's that, a careless hodge-podge of more-or-less unrelated sections haphazardly thrown together? Yup, super progressive right there!

Seriously, it's just absurd.

[imspazzen]

Yup, "progressive" has basically replaced the term "technical". It's hilarious how many bands call themselves progressive nowadays.

"Yeah our new album has some progressive elements blah blah blah"

I've seen that statement so many times and it always pisses me off. There's no such thing as set progressive "elements". Progressing your bands sound doesn't necessarily mean your music is progressive.

I'm ranting though; progressive is just a genre that defines certain aspects of music even if it isn't true to the definition.

[Charlie4]

@theogonia777 & imspazzen
progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definition


Whether it leans toward rock or metal, prog is prog. From what I've read on progarchives, there seems to be such a thing as elements which would classify music as prog - some that you have mentioned. Archives-forums would be a great place to debate with like-minded, prog-loving indidviduals.

With bands like Mastodon, Porcupine Tree etc. I'd say prog is quite alive and well at the moment.

[Syn166]

I kinda see TesseracT as like Djent with a progressive element to them.

[jfitch832]

I disagree. Listen, those are common elements of progressive music (with the exclusion of " careless hodge-podge of more-or-less unrelated sections haphazardly thrown together?"), but progressive isn't a subgenre you can pigeonhole like that. It's fairly subjective due to it's experimental nature. It may not be "proggy" enough for your standards, but that's your opinion. You mention your dislike of BTBAM being labeled prog, but the fact is no matter what your definition of "proggy" is, BTBAM are it. How progressive AAL and TesseracT are isn't even the point. The point is they ARE progressive, and in my opinion AAL is the best new progressive band.

[Raven_Flight]

Even though I agree with contemporary bands being "incorrectly" labelled as prog, Tesseract sound very prog to me. Their music is strictly based on weird signatures (not just a few) and their songs hardly follow the usual verse/chorus structure at all. I won't say anything about AAL since I haven't listened enough.
When music is just weird, like you said on the last sentence, it's commonly called avant-garde. Listeners mostly don't have a clear picture of how to differentiate these two genres since they have several things in common.

[Astralmoses]

Where does Pink Floyd end and Dream Theater begin? I find progressive to be a very open ended category..unfortunately. Sub Genres just makes music more difficult for the listener to interpret.

[ToolCreedence]

Progressive means they're moving forward in their music. If that means going from standard time signatures to more technical changes, it's progressive. It is evolving...

[sl1pk0t001]

i think Tosin Abasi should have gotten virtuoso as well

[withoutanyname]

This is great! Long live Prog!

[MiseryMonster]

Yeaaa teaseract is the shit!

[biff022]

If you have Prog awards and don't mention Tool it's counterfeit.

[EpiExplorer]

Tool sort of kinda maybe are really not that good, especially when it comes to their amount of prog, compared to any other bands sort of prog.

[Basti95]

Really not that good? Bullcrap. They're just not prog enough.

[Erickson11]

Tool "sort of kinda maybe are really not that good?" Leave. Now. You are not welcome here.

[iommi600]

Great, thought I was the only one to think that Tool is extremely overrated.

[S2S]

It's a know fact that Tool is RIDICULOUSLY overrated and are also constantly name dropped by people that don't really listen to and/or like their songs.

[ToolCreedence]

I completely disagree about them being overrated. Although, they do indeed have a number of douchey fans...

[JMZ08]

With this dude. Never really liked em, gave em a shot and they're blasphemously overrated.

[howrylak1]

I love Tool, but they need to make a new album before they can win these awards. Whats it been like 5 years?

[ToolCreedence]

Almost 6 1/2.

[TheExterminator]

Yeah, because an incredibly boring Alternative Rock band with some Progressive leanings is totally a good example of Prog music.

[LaughingWater2]

Seriously Have none of you heard King Crimsons Last album, they were so directly influenced by Tool and Robert Fripp admitted that "You can hear more tool in king crimson than you can hear king crimson in tool, they are one of the bands that will carry the torch of prog" so i mean who are we to say whats good music if the first prog band are being influenced by them, if Robert fripp dont know what prog is then nobody does

[ToolCreedence]

Construkction of Light was so good. People just like to hate.

[broken ipod]

never seen so much hate for tool before.

[jacobdubya]

While they might have prog "leanings," I don't consider Tool a prog band at all. Which is a good thing. If they were prog, they probably wouldn't be very good.

[ToolCreedence]

Listen to Wings I and II and Rosetta Stoned and tell me they aren't progressive. I don't know what else you'd call that.

[awesomeo4000]

it may have something to do with the fact that they haven't put out any music for more than 6 years ?_?

[MiseryMonster]

TesseracT** ****ing auto correct...

[RichieJovie]

Where is best dance routine?

[blitzbeast]

Devin Townsend would have nailed that category, judging from his "Lucky" vid

[jimmydvn]

who won the 'Extend an originally decent four-minute song with an extra twenty minutes of egostroking widdling' award then?

[theogonia777]

Well look at that. Someone faulting an apple for not being an orange. How original...

[third(-)eye]

To each their own. If you like jerking off to KISS and AC/DC, fine. I prefer musicians with actual... musicianship.

[iommi600]

Woah, a joke about prog songs being too long! Welcome to 1977!

[Guitarmageddon8]

How is exceeding four minutes a bad thing . . . Have you ever listened to anything outside of the rock/metal/pop realm? Would you call one of Shostikovich's symphonies egostroking widdling devoid of emotion simply because of its length? Would you call a novel pointless because it is not as short as a comicbook? Would you call a movie dumb simply because it is not as short as a television show? To maintain the notion that music has to be forced into a 4 minute space in order to be good is ignorent. Is your attension span really that short?

[TheExterminator]

Dream Theater would win that award 10 times out of 10. Seriously, they should have their own sub-genre called "How Not To Do" Progressive Metal.

[third(-)eye]

I so agree with this. So goddamn pretentious.

[420Tool]

Nice to see Rush win an award but there are amazing prog rock bands coming out of Australia right now like Karnivool, Dead Letter Circus, and then there's one's that recently broke up like COG and The Butterfly Effect.

[baumaxx1]

Karnivool might have a crack next year... new album is on the way.

Also, why were there two dislikes for that comemnt?

[SKB]

With Coheed and Cambria's double album out soon, they could be in for a shout at next year's awards

[Vicious_Turtle]

im gald and suprised no mention of priphery animals as leaders or mushugga.

[Blargaha]

But they're not very proggy...

[Vicious_Turtle]

alot of people seem to think so

[Blargaha]

But does that really matter?

[Vicious_Turtle]

general opinion seems to take presidence these days. such as. people thinking justin bieber is a (good ((musicain))

[derek8520]

Writing and recording decent music at the age of 15, Justin Bieber is a talented guy. People are allowed to have different opinions on what "good" music is.

[TheExterminator]

He's talented, for sure. But he's wasting that talent on making generic and mediocre Pop music. It's not a "different opinion", his brand of Pop music simply isn't good. It does not compare to good Pop music like MJ or ABBA. Simple as that. Justin Bieber's Pop music is dumbed-down and marketed to 12 year olds.

[SuperSpurgu]

He isn´t very talented for a 15 year old. I could have made baby when I was 10.

[metallimaiden90]

Shame Mikael Akerfeldt didn't win anything. What a musician.

[dale-banez]

WHURRS MAH BTBAM?!?

[jakka93]

my nipples are hard because of this.

[wafflesyrup]

There is no prog god, though there is a King, and his favorite color is Crimson.

[samhell]

No Mastodon? Dream Theater? Animals as Leaders? Cloudkicker? King Crimson? Fripp? WTF?

[MR.LZZYHALE]

the guitarist is good for animals as leaders but they NEED a singer to break into the mainstream

[samhell]

God I hope not. That will ruin it. I want to love Periphery but I can't stand that screamo/emo "singing".

[GasPipe]

I agree, I really like Periphery until the singing starts. They have a boisterous, kickass sound, but the singing just ruins it for me, doesn't matter which singer it is for some reason.

[dennis.1960]

I'd replace "Prog God" Wakeman with Robert Fripp. Before Wakeman even joined Yes, Fripp & King Crimson defined prog rock. And "Lifetime Achievement" to Genesis? Even Genesis admits in interviews that they were influenced by King Crimson. How could they not give King Crimson the lifetime achievement award?

[L2112Lif]

Dennis, I agree, but you're talkin' to the moon on this one.

[tvdinnerguy7]

Genesis blows, Abacab sucked and everything after it sucked.

[Raven_Flight]

If I remember correctly only the Peter Gabriel fronted era was taken into account. That is more than enough, at least for me.

[damillion]

That list is actually not half bad.

[Diony x]

Virtuoso: Jordan Rudess

[KampfOrange]

Needs more Periphery.

[rebreh]

Did anyone manage to catch the Altdubhop awards?

[frankibo]

I really find it hard to believe that people on here don't consider Protest The Hero, TesseracT, BTBAM, Animals As Leaders and Periphery as progressive metal bands.
"Progressive metal has a strong emphasis on technicality and theoretical complexity. This is done by playing complex rhythms and implementing unusual time signatures and song structure"
That seems like a fairly good description to me of a large part of this genre, feel free to offer an alternative if you disagree though, I just took that from wikipedia. But all of those bands fit into that description despite their differing styles.

[L2112Lif]

Prog is a little bit deeper than simply playing complex rhythms and unusual structures. There's an element of experimentation that marks most progressive music... That it combines the classical rock sensibility with as many genre-inspirations as it can get its hands on. I don't know the specifics on the bands you've listed, but I can see how the lack of their inclusion can be a bit disheartening.

[ironman316]

According to Miriam-Webster, "progressive" is defined as "moving forward or onward", " of, relating to, or characterized by progress", and "making use of or interested in new ideas, findings, or opportunities" -- among other definitions. When you get down to the actual word, all of these bands that everyone labels as "progressive", truly are progressive. There's really no point in arguing what everyone thinks progressive is. It is what it is, and nothing else.

[xplosive59]

Actually a decent list, this being the first awards though they couldn't really throw a curve ball for the life time achievement award, in a few years time however I think we will be seeing the likes of Gentle Giant, Camel, Soft Machine and Aphrodite's Child winning awards which would be awesome!

[erixdream3d]

Interesting for the Prog world but...where THE HELL is Dream Theater!?!?
and they could've considered aslo Circus Maximus for some cathegory I guess..their last album is awesome!

[bobt68021]

irepress anyone?

[ToolCreedence]

Good stuff

[purplexing]

Prog is the most boring genre in this world. It treats music as a technical medium instead of a an art medium. There's not one person that is a prog fan that is not a musician, therefore the experience of the actual sound is tainted by how hard or complex the music actually is. Music should be for everyone, not just for musicians. Now please give me the down votes so that you feel superior.

[scithe37]

There's always one party pooper.

[third(-)eye]

Um... Pink Floyd? Tool? Not THAT technical, yet two of the best prog bands ever. And I don't think you can claim that King Crimson is all about showing off either.

Prog isn't for everyone, just like pop isn't for everyone. It's not about showing off as much as it is about making unique music. At least good prog is anyway.

[purplexing]

You are correct, I am generalizing. Tool and Pink floyd are great bands, but if you scroll up and look at the comments of others, you'll note that people are saying things like "not prog enough" which I find ridiculous. Again, the thinking process should not taint how we enjoy music.

Btw, the point of pop is to be accesible and to sound good, which I prefer over trying to have the most un-rhythmic time signature and tempo over a melody that is too complex to be catchy. I simply just don't believe that there are many people who genuinely dislike pop music, it's more like they convince themselves that pop is bad because of other factors than the actual sound.

[third(-)eye]

I don't think pop is "bad", it's just not for me. I feel like there's so much more to be said with rock than can be done in a verse-chorus structure, a 4/4 time signature, and a 4-chord progression. Granted, there are groups who have done a lot with that formula, and I like some of those bands. But there's a whole world of things that people can't do in mainstream rock.

[LaughingWater2]

But Prog is catchy. Have you not heard In the court of the crimson king or Dark side of the moon or even Tubular Bells?. Money by Pink floyd is in 7/8 which isnt a normal time signature but its still really catchy. I do get what you said about people convincing themselves that pop is bad because of other factors than the sound and thats true . Pop music is ok but its not good enough to make someone cry or feel like they're on another planet, Prog is completely about art, All of Porcupine trees albums have been better than a painting. ELP were the only original prog band to be intrested in showing off and they did make great music but it did eventaully backfire. I actaully know at least 5 people who are into prog but arent musicians. i think you are confusing Prog with Speed and Neoclassical Metal which i dispise. Prog is about music, Porcupine Tree used to do Krautrock and Ambient Trance aswell as Mike Oldfield, which isnt made with any real instruments at all. so i dont think prog is elitist, prog musicians dont really care about how music is made they just care how good it sounds and anyone that does care how its made isnt a real prog fan and sadly there are tons of those people around

[MR.LZZYHALE]

THE WALL beats EVERYTHING even master of puppets and vulgar display of power!!!!

[Raven_Flight]

Just a guess, but maybe you check the wrong set of bands. I love a lot of prog bands and they are usually the ones that do not base their music around wanking with guitar and keyboard solos.
Opeth is one of my favorites and hardly have any technical values. As well as Orphaned Land, later Mastodon, Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Random, Leprous, Karnivool... and I could go on with bands that do not masturbate their instruments.

[iommi600]

"It treats music as a technical medium instead of a an art medium."

Do you realize how utterly stupid this statement was? Have you ever noticed the musical width of a band like King Crimson for an example, going through jazz, classical, etc? I'd say that is far beyond the instrumental wanking you suppose. You're entitled to your opinions and therefore if you don't like prog, that's fine. But wow...

[hellfireshell]

Guiding light: STEVEN FUCKIN" WILSON!!!....**** yeah!

[third(-)eye]

Prog God: Rick Wakeman

WTF. Everyone knows that if you're going to have a category as ridiculous as that, the only possible winner must be Robert Fripp.

[Rands2113]

Next year Coheed and Cambria will get a nod for sure

[whywefight]

I'd love to see some newer bands (BTBAM, AAL, Mastodon)in these lists as soon as they spend two or three years giving all the older bands recognition, ie Tool, Dream Theater, Rush, King Crimson. I mean, Opeth, Tool, and BTBAM destroyed loudwires best of the 21st century metal lists recently, and it was well deserved.

[travislausch]

I have no issues with this list.

[Junior#1]

Not a bad list. But I would have liked to see Dream Theater, Rush, and Tool mentioned, but all in all that's not bad.

[MonkeyFonicBen]

Good to see TesseracT in there!!

[m4ss3 m/]

TesseracT? Excuse me, but Periphery is way more progressive and better than TesseracT. I do love TesseracT too, though..

[TobiasSammet]

Anathema are an explosion of emotions live, they totally deserve it!

[ChamsRock]

I would have changed a few things, but I can't complain.

[Offworld92]

No Coheed in here? Bullshit.

[MagicGuitarist]

Dream Theater?

[Daysleeper_05]

Keith Emerson must be pissed, but Wakeman deserves it. Yes made slightly better music than ELP if you ask me

[dennis.1960]

Ya, but Keith played in a 3 piece so had to fill more space. When Keith went to play a Moog solo, he had to also keep the organ part going where Wakeman had Steve Howe and Chris Squire to keep the song interesting during his solos. I just can't imagine Wakeman ever composing (let alone playing) anything as complex as Karn Evil 9.

[SoulShredder]

Kinda pretentious. But what should you expect, its prog awards lol.

[Juln.]

Where are King Crimson and Dream Theatre? Was hoping to see Mars Volta too.. they never get much recognition :/

[samhell]

Good call on Mars Volta! I forgot about them... doh

[ItsApocalypse]

Volta don't get enough light in the prog community because they don't present themselves as other prog bands do. They are legendary nonetheless.
I agree with what you said though

[Ubergrue]

What? No Animals As Leaders? Tosin And Javier deserve to be on this list. Have they heard "Weightless"? Damn that's an amazing album. I tried listening to TesseracT' "One" yesterday and I just couldn't do it. It felt like a joke compared to Animals's two albums.

[xTony111]

i wish tool was on there somewhere, maybe when their new album comes out it could be eligible. I knew Tesseract would win that one, kind of obvious given their "fame" but Animals as Leaders probably deserved that spot more.

[Deflection]

Mastodon really deserve to be on this list. Kind of shocked. The rest of the list seems good though. Props for Tesseract and Steven Wilson.

[brad777no]

Cynic???

[Silver Blues]

Genesis over Rush in "Lifetime Achievement"? What?

[MikeBTE]

even though not on the list, at least opeth got a mention. they're too superior among other bands to be ignored.

[fraberjam]

No Gorguts, Behold... The Arctopus or Nuclear Rabbit?

[EarlofSandvich]

Thank god Prog is finally getting some recognition

[triviumfan2080]

Dream theater... Petrucci for virtuoso

[6-String_Madman]

Dream Theater not winning any award for this event is a huge travesty.

[the_modfather]

Steven Wilson! Legend

[LaughingWater2]

I hope next year they have Mike oldfield win the Visionary award and have Haken Win the New Blood award, although if they dont give Robert Fripp the Prog God award next year i'll go mental

[jrcsgtpeppers]

wheres between the buried and me and animals as leaders?

come on, i hate award best artist lists. theyre pointless. they need to be renamed most popular prog band awards. or most popular 100 guitarists. or most popular 100 guitar solos.

[ItsApocalypse]

I agree with your first statement 200%
and your second 206%

[ryan_nadon]

Prog awards

No Dream Theater

wat

[ItsApocalypse]

How can you talk best in prog
and then not mention Dream Theater at all?
Why

[brndnstffrd]

Needs more Floyd

[Diek321]

IMO there should be more categories, especially more that recognize "new" or "more recent" bands (of course the pioneers deserve the recognition, but we already know the winners before they mention them... it's just and endless repetition of the same bands we already know deserve the award. There's really no point in most awards going to ELP/Pink FLoyd/Genesis/Yes/Rush/King Crimson/Tool etc. because we already know and love those bands).

...and I agree it'd be great if AAL got more recognition (in all honesty, they are revolutionizing the music world in so many ways, and obviously a lot more than TesseracT [even though I love TesseracT]).

Also I'd like to see PTH, BTBAM and Cloudkicker (or B.M. Sharp), but I personally wouldn't really categorize Periphery as "Prog", they do modulate and have polyrythmics, but I think their music even shares more characteristics with "Pop" than with "Prog". (Again, I really like Periphery, I'm not hating).

[frankibo]

They use polymetrics, not polyrhythms. Very few bands use polyrhythms. They're definitely at the more accessible end of progressive music but are not pop, you're just being silly there.

[axelgarcia1]

sucks Xerath didnt win anything

[Holoogamooga]

It disturbs me a little that the only artists on that list I follow closely are Rush and Steven Wilson. I'm more into Big Big Train and Transatlantic, but it couldn't hurt to look up Tesseract (for example).

Also, as cool as Wakeman is, I agree Fripp should've gotten the "God" award.

[nickfish]

Took their sweet ass time didn't they? well I guess that's prog for you...

[valennic]

I like Tesseract a great deal, but they really need to release some new stuff, instead of just re-releasing their albums like five times. I'm sure they can put out some great stuff, but c'mon. It gets old.

[Metalhead09z]

Surprisingly good list

[MrCheezus]

You can give all of those awards to Rush

[Samko_00]

This list pleases me. However, there are some really stupid comments regarding newer bands that fall under the progressive banner like AAL, Tesseract or Periphery. They might not be to your taste and they might not sound "traditionally prog" but isn't that the point? Those three bands to name a few experiment with new technology, electronic sequencing, a big range of influences spanning from the origins of progressive rock to the present day. But that's the trouble. It seems any modern band that, let's face it, IS progressive but chooses to incorporate genres or styles from the last 10-15 years as well as more traditional influences will be maligned by the wider prog community. You're trying to form strict definitions of a genre based on older bands templates when the genre itself is defined by a forward thinking, changing and evolving sound.

[Diek321]

Exactly, "Prog Pioneers" INVENTED Prog, they didn't DEFINE it.
Most people think that if it doesn't sound like those bands (Genesis/Crimson/Yes/Floyd/Rush/ELP etc.), then it simply isn't Prog.

[Northernmight]

Great, now i'm just waiting for the Avantgarde-Industrial-Rock awards.

I find this a little silly, is what i'm trying to say..

[Diek321]

I'd also love to see Corelia getting a bit of recognition.

[JakeElson]

Bit dissapointed at the lack of Mars Volta
I dont really listen to prog but i deccided recently to try the mars volta, and now they are one of my favourite bands

[shoegazer']

Genesis had some good Prog albums with Phil in the 70s, not to mention the PG albums. They deserve it imo.

[MOEDOG4000]

I wish I would've seen Jordan Rudess' name up here.