Foo Fighters Blast John McCain For Using Their Song

In a story that sounds all too familiar, John McCain has once again angered a group of musicians for his unauthorized use of their music. This time, it’s the Foo Fighters.

The band revealed in a statement how upset they are that John McCain has been using their 1997 hit "My Hero" as his current campaign theme song.

The band writes, "This isn't the first time the McCain campaign has used a song without making any attempt to get approval or permission from the artist. It's frustrating and infuriating that someone who claims to speak for the American people would repeatedly show such little respect for creativity and intellectual property."

They also add, "The saddest thing about this is that 'My Hero' was written as a celebration of the common man and his extraordinary potential. To have it appropriated without our knowledge and used in a manner that perverts the original sentiment of the lyric just tarnishes the song. We hope that the McCain campaign will do the right thing and stop using our song — and start asking artists' permission in general."

This isn’t the first time Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain has found himself in trouble for unauthorized use of music. McCain has also angered bands Van Halen and Heart for his use of their songs "Right Now" and "Barracuda", respectively.

The Foo Fighters made headlines in 2004 for their support of Democratic Presidential Candidate John Kerry. The title of their 2005 record, In Your Honor, was reportedly inspired by the experience. The band’s website currently features a note urging people to vote in the coming election in November.

The band is currently taking a "long break" from touring and recording music and hope to return eventually with a new sense of being.

Report by David Lowe-Bianco.

Comments

[JesusLives]

Ugh, Get ready for like 4 million attacks on McCain.

[devilshalo122]

liberals

[getts182]

They should do what they did in 2004, and start playing at Obama events.

[100%guitarmad]

tut tut tut

[JesusOfSbrbia]

Hasn't someone else used that song without their permission for a campaign?

I read that the whole reason they started campaigning for Kerry was because the 2004 Bush campaign used one of their songs without permission, and although they hadn't really touched politics until then, they didn't want to be misconstrued as Bush supporters.

Pretty sure I read that on Wikipedia a while ago...

[azdv]

I'm from Australia so I hear a bit about the election but haven't followed it closely but FFS give some respect to the Foo Fighters! Destroying a song like that.....the sacrilige and the cheese, just imagining McCain's face and that song, just no...

[flea878]

Well if you heard it on wikipedia it must be true

[heebblow101]

they are absolutly Right, John Mc Cain needs to respect the artists before he starts using there songs without Permission!!! He id the same with Van Halen and Eddie was pissed! Just Because that retard Srah Palin Likes Van Halen gives her no right to use that Song. Buch of Idiots we got that want to run this country!!!

[AlienMetalhead]

A bit picky I think

The one thing that gets on my nerves is that here, in the UK, our news broadcasters have nothing better to do than report on the US candidates. I'm sure they're getting more publicity here than our last election!

[Wayward Sean]

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but if McCain doesn't respect music enough to ask permission, doesn't that sort of signal that he doesn't respect the arts. The government has been pushing to take the arts out of school, and if he doesn't respect them, that could be the end to the arts (including music) in public schools altogether.

[vermilion444]

It's not picky. If you write a song, one with a special meaning to you, no one has a right to just grab it and use it for whatever they want. It's not a political thing at all, it's the fact that they are using Grohl's song without his permission to represent something/someone that he or the Foo Fighters may/may not support.

[ready2breakdown]

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

[The_Trooper14]

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

[Nerdo-sez-bo]

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

[crue29_2008]

I try to avoid politics, because for the record I think they all kinda suck. But in the defense of McCain, how is he not a common man doing extraordinary things? As someone who's best friend is in the military, I have a new respect for anybody who serves in the military. The shit McCain went through certainly qualifies him as an extraordinary person. He was a POW for years, and was tortured and shit. When he was given the chance for release because of his family connections before the rest of his POW companions, he chose to stay and wait for an honorable release. Thats ****in Honor right there, I don't care who you are.

Thats not the point, he shouldn't be using music for his campaign that I'm sure he doesn't understand first of all, second that he didn't ask permission. But on the Foo's part, its a bit harsh to say he's tarnishing the song. As a person (not necessarily as a politician) McCain is an extraordinary person. How can anyone deny that?

[H_ngm_n]

Probably the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

[Starstorm]

^beat me to it

[H_ngm_n]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.

No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.

[Starstorm]

I was agreeing to hellraiser's post

Checked.

[Badreligionrock]

crue29_2008 wrote:

I try to avoid politics, because for the record I think they all kinda suck. But in the defense of McCain, how is he not a common man doing extraordinary things? As someone who's best friend is in the military, I have a new respect for anybody who serves in the military. The shit McCain went through certainly qualifies him as an extraordinary person. He was a POW for years, and was tortured and shit. When he was given the chance for release because of his family connections before the rest of his POW companions, he chose to stay and wait for an honorable release. Thats ****in Honor right there, I don't care who you are.

Thats not the point, he shouldn't be using music for his campaign that I'm sure he doesn't understand first of all, second that he didn't ask permission. But on the Foo's part, its a bit harsh to say he's tarnishing the song. As a person (not necessarily as a politician) McCain is an extraordinary person. How can anyone deny that?

Best post here. The Foo Fighters could stand to be less pompous, and McCain could stand to show a little respect. Handbags at ten paces.

[mr staind]

about the long break:long break means at least 10 years.Davy is expecting to record music at his 50;Is he mad;Kobain will blame him forever

[ihavenoname93]

wow my respect for the foos is cut in half right now

[Grungy2425]

songs about Kurt. not McCain.. lol

[chrisdazzo]

Wow, FF really need to get the stick out of their ass. Regardless of who uses the song, they should be happy that someone's using it!

Bastards all care about getting recognized and paid and crap. Intellectual property? Whatever. Go after music pirates and get back to us.

[Royyor]

chrisdazzo wrote:

Wow, FF really need to get the stick out of their ass. Regardless of who uses the song, they should be happy that someone's using it!

Bastards all care about getting recognized and paid and crap. Intellectual property? Whatever. Go after music pirates and get back to us.

seriously?? Private downloads is one thing, but I wouldn't want some random to start using my music without my permission. What mccain did was disrespectful to the FF's. I would be angry too if i were them.

[davedoom]

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.

[mr staind]

is there a rumour that davy will start a seid-project;
Does any1 know;

[Joe4/4/1992]

chrisdazzo wrote:

Wow, FF really need to get the stick out of their ass. Regardless of who uses the song, they should be happy that someone's using it!

i personally would be damn anoyed if someone used my song without permission

i respect John McCain as a person and i understand that he's a war hero but, no disrespect, i dont agree with his policies or to his positioning of such a person as Sarah Palin amd i think its a shame that a song like "My Hero" might come to be associated with them

[gitarzero89]

well, both sides are a bit wrong here. i applaud Dave for not straight-up bashing McCain, like so many others (including those here on UG) have done. he was pretty fair about the whole thing. but to say that McCain's not a hero, well, i'm pretty sure we know about his wartime experiences and continued loyalty to his country in spite of them.

and, of course, McCain should have asked for permission. that's just protocol. and it would certainly have been a good gesture.

and as much as you don't want to admit it, Randy Bobandy's post got it right. anyone who watches the news knows who Obama's had ties with in the past. it's straight up historical fact.

Hollywood be damned. I'm voting McCain.

[Scitzo Frenic]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.

What the hell have terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs got to do with the Foo Fighters? He's angry because McCain used his song without his permission.

[Renfordoggz]

When you write a song, especially one like My Hero, you use it to express some sort of emotion or something which you hold close. Now for all the people bitching about how if he really cares about his music he wouldn't care....well it seems to me that he favours the democrats so obviously he has all rights to be pissed off if the opposing party uses HIS song...

[TheSilverBeatle]

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

Ironic you call him a tool while proving yourself to be a complete dumb ass yourself. Dave Grohl doesn't give a shit about the royalties. I think he's got enough money to "survive" right now.

It's the same thing as using a song without permission in a commercial...it infringes on copyrights just a little bit. And clearly they don't support McCain so why would they want to become associated with McCain through their own song?

You do know it is illegal to do this right? Already involved in minor illegal activities...wow someone check the polls I'm sure this should put him in the lead for most American's. Too bad you can't just vote Bush in for another term.

[getts182]

Does anyone really think that this is about the money? I REALLY doubt that Dave Grohl, or any of the Foo Fighters, are aching for money. That's not the point. There was a good article on politico.com regarding the McCain campaign's unauthorized use of songs, and the problem a lot of artists have with it is that the use of a song can come across as an endorsement. That was the problem they had in the 2004 election with Bush. He used "Times Like These" on the road, and the Foo Fighters objected. In retaliation, they played at least one Kerry event. I'm not 100% sure what the Foo Fighters' political leanings are, but it could be that they don't want ANY political figure using their music. They may not want to be seen as endorsing ANYONE. That's the bottom line. Someone will inevitably think that the Foo Fighters support John McCain because he used their song at an event, and that's what they have the problem with.

[Philler101]

the thing that bothers me most about these candidates is that they are so immature in their advertisements... example.... the elections here in Canada have no substance except to rip on each other calling each other baby eaters etc... if anything they should have to pay the artist to use a song and then maybe they can say that the artist supports the candidate on the television

[TJ1991]

This isn't exactly the biggest thing in the world, but it's still bloody annoying. Grohl said it himself, it's totally against what the song's about. It wouldn't be so bad if they'd have been asked permission to use it in the first place.

[Prince of Rinse]

Put him in jail! He probably downloaded it illegally. God damn pirate.

[red_hot_chili18]

dave ftw

[break-me-in]

gitarzero89 wrote:

well, both sides are a bit wrong here. i applaud Dave for not straight-up bashing McCain, like so many others (including those here on UG) have done. he was pretty fair about the whole thing. but to say that McCain's not a hero, well, i'm pretty sure we know about his wartime experiences and continued loyalty to his country in spite of them.

and, of course, McCain should have asked for permission. that's just protocol. and it would certainly have been a good gesture.

and as much as you don't want to admit it, Randy Bobandy's post got it right. anyone who watches the news knows who Obama's had ties with in the past. it's straight up historical fact.

Hollywood be damned. I'm voting McCain.

No-one actually brought Obama into this till now. George W Bush had similar ties, he's still President.

But I do agree with your post for the most part.

[Suav Nitebeest]

I'm still waiting for Obama to make "Still" by Geto Boys his campaign song.

[break-me-in]

devilshalo122 wrote:
liberals

Who gives a shit? You say that like it's a bad thing. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you live in America, a country whose political system is that of a "liberal democracy", in that it promotes a certain amount of equal rights for all people, which is an undeniably good thing.

Now to get back to the issue, I think it's good that they haven't taken legal action or anything, but just made it a matter of common courtesy.

[wtf_dude69]

I would rather have a president who did this elected than one who will lead our country to ruin (Obama)

Checked

[triviumfan52]

JesusOfSbrbia wrote:

Hasn't someone else used that song without their permission for a campaign?

I read that the whole reason they started campaigning for Kerry was because the 2004 Bush campaign used one of their songs without permission, and although they hadn't really touched politics until then, they didn't want to be misconstrued as Bush supporters.

Pretty sure I read that on Wikipedia a while ago...

Someone may have already said this (i couldn't be arsed to read everyones post) but, I THINK it was "times like these" which Bush used... Not 100% on that but I seem to recall reading that it was times like these somewhere (also that is what Dave played at Kerry's rallies so I guess that is why...)

[jman6340]

Wow, this makes as a republican musican, this make you wander when the other party's going to show up :/

[connorlawhorne]

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

I'm pretty sure he's mad because McCain is a tool, not because he's not getting paid. I would be pissed if I was Grohl. Having your song played at McCain events gives the message that you support him. I'm pretty sure the Foo do not support McCain...hence the anger.

[lockedandlogan]

I'd just be pumped that McCain was diggin' my music. Everyone talks about how old he is but he's still rockin' the Foo Fighters. This certainly makes him a symbol of hope for the often disrespected older generation.

But in all seriousness I'd be annoyed too.

[Nightfyre]

connorlawhorne wrote:

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

I'm pretty sure he's mad because McCain is a tool, not because he's not getting paid. I would be pissed if I was Grohl. Having your song played at McCain events gives the message that you support him. I'm pretty sure the Foo do not support McCain...hence the anger.

This. You'd think the McCain camp would have figured out by now you're supposed to ASK before using a band's material, but no. They now have 3 big acts very upset with them.

[unix]

Um...I'm not sure that anybody has to ask the artist's permission to play their music. At a big event like a campaign rally, I bet the campaign gets the Record Label's permission, but what the artist says doesn't matter. The other band that was upset was Heart, btw, at the use of Barracuda.

[theotherguy7145]

lockedandlogan wrote:

I'd just be pumped that McCain was diggin' my music. Everyone talks about how old he is but he's still rockin' the Foo Fighters. This certainly makes him a symbol of hope for the often disrespected older generation.

But in all seriousness I'd be annoyed too.

If he respected the musicians then he'd recognize what the song was about, and ask their permission first.
Its wrong

[highwind5150]

I'm with the artists that have complained about the song usage personally. Ask me if you're gonna use my music...just a simple phone call away. Get a yes or no and then move on.

[momowagon]

This is ridiculous. As an artist when you release a song through a record label it is exactly that. "Released" You don't get to decide who gets to play it in their stereo and what context it gets played in. That's the price you pay for the millions you make selling overpriced cd's. If I have a party at my house and I play some foo fighters, Dave grohl doesn't have any right to stop me. Even if that party includes 10,000 people and a major party candidate. I don't have the right to sell the song or use it to sell a commercial product, but I own the right to play it in whatever context I want.

I'm dissappointed in you, Dave. I expected as much from the lezzies (Heart) and the alkies (Van Halen) but i thought you were above this sort of thing. You just went down a notch in my book.

[badfish2829]

Suav Nitebeest wrote:

I'm still waiting for Obama to make "Still" by Geto Boys his campaign song.

+1,000,000
Hell yes! I think he should use "Damn it feels good to be a gangsta" Especially cause of the: "And now, a word from our President" line.

[Mahoru]

What? McCain first uses without permission Van Halen, and now the Foo Fighters for his evil purposes?

I already didn't like him but now it has reached a new level: John McCain, prepare to be bombarded with all my hatred.

PS: the problem isn't only that he used those songs without permission. It's also that the authors of those songs are against McCain and don't want him to taint their songs with his rubbish!

[Smokey Amp]

I can't believe how many people have missed the entire point of the article.

It's pretty sad really...

[xXChimairaXx]

It's not like McCain himself is choosing these songs. Anyways, he is a hero. Respect should be given to him for what he's done for his country, not to some inexperienced, smooth-talking, celebrity/noob/politician. Notice politician came last.

[_GoingBlind_]

chrisdazzo wrote:

Wow, FF really need to get the stick out of their ass. Regardless of who uses the song, they should be happy that someone's using it!

Bastards all care about getting recognized and paid and crap. Intellectual property? Whatever. Go after music pirates and get back to us.

seriuosly? you believe that? So say you right a song and say NAMBLA uses your song on a TV ad, you are gonna be happy that ur song is being used without permission. They don't want thier music being used as something identified with something that don't agree with. They didn't ask for a settlement. They just asked to"please stop using my music to represent you".

[lockedandlogan]

theotherguy7145 wrote:

lockedandlogan wrote:

I'd just be pumped that McCain was diggin' my music. Everyone talks about how old he is but he's still rockin' the Foo Fighters. This certainly makes him a symbol of hope for the often disrespected older generation.

But in all seriousness I'd be annoyed too.

If he respected the musicians then he'd recognize what the song was about, and ask their permission first.
Its wrong

You completely missed the point of that post. It was a joke and I agree that it was stupid of him to do that. Hence the "But in all seriousness, I'd be annoyed, too."

[The_String_Man]

momowagon wrote:

This is ridiculous. As an artist when you release a song through a record label it is exactly that. "Released" You don't get to decide who gets to play it in their stereo and what context it gets played in. That's the price you pay for the millions you make selling overpriced cd's. If I have a party at my house and I play some foo fighters, Dave grohl doesn't have any right to stop me. Even if that party includes 10,000 people and a major party candidate. I don't have the right to sell the song or use it to sell a commercial product, but I own the right to play it in whatever context I want.

I'm dissappointed in you, Dave. I expected as much from the lezzies (Heart) and the alkies (Van Halen) but i thought you were above this sort of thing. You just went down a notch in my book.

you got a point, but if i ask you if somewhat your song is used without permission, what would you feel?

[lockedandlogan]

momowagon wrote:

This is ridiculous. As an artist when you release a song through a record label it is exactly that. "Released" You don't get to decide who gets to play it in their stereo and what context it gets played in. That's the price you pay for the millions you make selling overpriced cd's. If I have a party at my house and I play some foo fighters, Dave grohl doesn't have any right to stop me. Even if that party includes 10,000 people and a major party candidate. I don't have the right to sell the song or use it to sell a commercial product, but I own the right to play it in whatever context I want.

I'm dissappointed in you, Dave. I expected as much from the lezzies (Heart) and the alkies (Van Halen) but i thought you were above this sort of thing. You just went down a notch in my book.

I don't think that the issue is McCain holding parties and playing Foo Fighters. I was under the impression that he used it for campaign advertising purposes. A very different thing all together.

[momowagon]

you got a point, but if i ask you if somewhat your song is used without permission, what would you feel?

I'd feel like I shouldn't let my narrow ideology get in the way of people enjoying my music. Let the listeners determine how my song effects them. Grohl is just telling his fans how he thinks they should vote through cheap media theatrics. He knows full well he has no legal leg to stand on.

[momowagon]

I don't think that the issue is McCain holding parties and playing Foo Fighters. I was under the impression that he used it for campaign advertising purposes. A very different thing all together.

It wasn't being played on TV commercials or anything. Just at live appearances and campaign rallies.

[metalonastrat]

the only reason mccain used the song is to appear "hip", "cool", "other random adjectives". he knows no one under 50 is gonna vote for him.

[MuffinMan]

Politicians shouldn't use songs at all. Just one more thing to distract people from the real issues. We Americans just need bells and whistles, don't we?

[Psycho Pigeon]

They both take your pay checks, they are there to keep the norm not change things.

[dan1985smith]

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

Good think he wasn't using a "hard rock" song then.

[Hamburger89]

Is this really such a big problem? The only problem here is that people might think the foo fighters are republicans since they're music is used, I doubt they would have had much comment if a democrat would have used that song.
Not that I'm republican, but this is just another way of an artist to show what party they vote for without saying it out loud.

[lockedandlogan]

Thank you for attempting to be the voice of reason. Seriously. Just deal, people. I personally enjoy the freedom I have here and I think I'll be better off here either way.

[Useful_Idiot16]

Dave Grohl is a douchebag for this. Just be happy your song is being played for a ton of people. If Obama played anything I wrote I'd be pretty pumped, I hate the guy but that's some heavy publicity.
Let's just hope McCain becomes president so we don't have a bunch of whiny liberals making stuff like this a big deal all the time. Pussies.

[homair]

So I suppose this makes Dave Grohl the new Lars Ulrich? :rolleyes:

[hardrocker64]

Geeeezzzzze!! Chill out Mr. Foo Fighter. Just a song. Maybe we need to dish out some more bailout money to Dave now. I mean relly grow up. and I love the Foos.

[MtLMkR]

much less,,, it's the third band he's done it to, mccain has no respect, even after he's already gotten in trouble he's like "well is STILL don't give a f*ck.. . ..i'm still usin them b*tches' songs without permission cuz i'm gangsta like that."

[dan1985smith]

I heard that song playing after one of Mccain's speeches and I never once thought "Oh, the Foo Fighters must be Mccain supporters!" It's ridiculous. Honestly, I just assume that they are liberals because they are ignorantly part of the media, whether they like it or not.

[cobalt]

After reading, and re-reading the article, I still can't seem to find the part where Grohl claims McCain isn't a hero... which appears to be the major point of panty-knotting in the thread...

All he says, is that the song is a celebration of the potential in the common man. To use the song as a glorification of a single man, McCain, is directly contrary to the ideals expressed in the song. Grohl isn't commenting on McCain at all, just the specific use of his music.

[dan1985smith]

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

humperdunk wrote:

AlienMetalhead wrote:

A bit picky I think

The one thing that gets on my nerves is that here, in the UK, our news broadcasters have nothing better to do than report on the US candidates. I'm sure they're getting more publicity here than our last election!

Uhm you SHOULD care. You realize that if McCain gets elected, the whole world is screwed right? Not just s Americans. And if he should die in office (god forbid) the Sarah ****ing Palin's gonna end up in the oval office, which is even worse.

I want reasons backing that up. Why is the WHOLE world screwed?
I'm going to sit and wait on this one.

So am I. I am at work until 5:30, I will keep checking to see if any intelligent response can be made to this. You and I both know it won't happen, Useful.

[i_am_metalhead]

With all due respect to Dave Grohl, STFU! When you released the song it became free for the public to use as they wish. You don't here Ac/Dc bitching that "Hells Bells" is used at pretty much every high school sporting event.

John McCain is still a normal civilian just like the rest of us. What makes his use of the music any different from our use of it!?

[dan1985smith]

Eddie's'Waitor wrote:

McCain is a twat

Gotta love all the intelectual liberals rolling through here.

[Useful_Idiot16]

Still waiting for that answer from any of these highly intellectual liberals here...if that even makes sense.

[DieYouBastard]

That man is not worthy to lick the mud off Dave Grohl's boots!

[thesecondman]

heebblow101 wrote:

they are absolutly Right, John Mc Cain needs to respect the artists before he starts using there songs without Permission!!! He id the same with Van Halen and Eddie was pissed! Just Because that retard Srah Palin Likes Van Halen gives her no right to use that Song. Buch of Idiots we got that want to run this country!!!

Regardless of my political alignment, I think the true idiot is the one who can't spell words like "bunch" or "sarah" or "I'd" or "McCain" or "absolutely" and can't form even close to grammatically correct sentences. Said person also capitalizes words for no reason, and just removed any right he has to calling anyone an idiot.

[Lethal Dosage]

Um...I'm not sure that anybody has to ask the artist's permission to play their music. At a big event like a campaign rally, I bet the campaign gets the Record Label's permission, but what the artist says doesn't matter. The other band that was upset was Heart, btw, at the use of Barracuda.

Ummm not exactly the record company only gets paid by signing bands and releasing their records, I think you would want the bands approval on things cause if the band is unhappy then there goes a portion of your profit (in the FF's case a large portion of profits). I would be mad too especially if the record company went over my head and did it without asking me first when I spent alot of my time writing and recording the song.

[Matt_1213]

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

COBHC666 wrote:

People are so f-ing stupid. Is it not obvious that mccain is an idiot?? is it not obvious he chose palin as his running mate solely because she has a snatch??!

Americans are so ****ing stupid and pea-brained now, it makes me ashamed to be born here.

Then leave. Or if Obama is elected just stick around. His economic plan is to boost sales of Rosetta Stone when everybody has to learn Arabic.

First, the Foo foos need to put on their big boy pants and get over it.

Come on.... seriously. What has McCain done that was so stupid? Obama picked a guy that is a documented liar and plagiarizer for his running mate. He has said change a billion times, and never discussed what he would change. He's going to give 95% of Americans tax breaks..... but wait....40% of Americans don't even pay taxes. His economic policy like Clinton's and Carter's before him is piss poor and only useful for raising inflation. His health care proposal is no longer possible since the buy out. Which he voted for, and has now bashed. Can you give one good reason, to vote for Obama, other than the media has told you to hate George Bush, and you ignorantly believe Obama when he attempts to tie McCain to Bush.

What one thing is he going to do that will benefit the country?

Everyone read that and stop crying.

Seconded. Every Democrat government has made a mess of things, but the next generation just keeps going back because they're 'new' and 'fresh' and its 'a change'.

And so history repeats itself...again.

[dan1985smith]

Lethal Dosage wrote:

Um...I'm not sure that anybody has to ask the artist's permission to play their music. At a big event like a campaign rally, I bet the campaign gets the Record Label's permission, but what the artist says doesn't matter. The other band that was upset was Heart, btw, at the use of Barracuda.


Ummm not exactly the record company only gets paid by signing bands and releasing their records, I think you would want the bands approval on things cause if the band is unhappy then there goes a portion of your profit (in the FF's case a large portion of profits). I would be mad too especially if the record company went over my head and did it without asking me first when I spent alot of my time writing and recording the song.

Yeah because the Foo Fighters are so poor. I feel sorry for them now, thanks for opening my eyes. /endsarcasm

[getts182]

dan1985smith wrote:

MtLMkR wrote:

much less,,, it's the third band he's done it to, mccain has no respect, even after he's already gotten in trouble he's like "well is STILL don't give a f*ck.. . ..i'm still usin them b*tches' songs without permission cuz i'm gangsta like that."

Kinda like how in the last Presidential debate Obama kept ignoring questions so he could go back to old questions, despite the rules of the debate that don't allow you to do that?

Or Palin, who blatantly said she may not answer the questions that were put forward to her?

[dan1985smith]

getts182 wrote:

dan1985smith wrote:

MtLMkR wrote:

much less,,, it's the third band he's done it to, mccain has no respect, even after he's already gotten in trouble he's like "well is STILL don't give a f*ck.. . ..i'm still usin them b*tches' songs without permission cuz i'm gangsta like that."

Kinda like how in the last Presidential debate Obama kept ignoring questions so he could go back to old questions, despite the rules of the debate that don't allow you to do that?


Or Palin, who blatantly said she may not answer the questions that were put forward to her?

Thank you for making my point even more for me. BOTH sides do it, not just mccain.

[thesecondman]

BTW... I'm digging the political debate... It's probably the most controversial article since I made comments on some Metallica articles.

[getts182]

dan1985smith wrote:

getts182 wrote:

dan1985smith wrote:

MtLMkR wrote:

much less,,, it's the third band he's done it to, mccain has no respect, even after he's already gotten in trouble he's like "well is STILL don't give a f*ck.. . ..i'm still usin them b*tches' songs without permission cuz i'm gangsta like that."

Kinda like how in the last Presidential debate Obama kept ignoring questions so he could go back to old questions, despite the rules of the debate that don't allow you to do that?


Or Palin, who blatantly said she may not answer the questions that were put forward to her?

Thank you for making my point even more for me. BOTH sides do it, not just mccain.

That's absolutely true. Both sides do it. It's not exclusive by any means. It doesn't make any of it right, though, the debate thing, or using the Foo Fighters' (or any artist's) song without permission.

[travlnmn41]

TheSilverBeatle wrote:

You do know it is illegal to do this right? Already involved in minor illegal activities...wow someone check the polls I'm sure this should put him in the lead for most American's. Too bad you can't just vote Bush in for another term.

WRONG, expert. If it's illegal, why isn't Dave Drool pressing charges? You want to talk about illegal activities? We can talk about Obama's ACORN thug buddies all day long. Google "ACORN RICO investigation." Now go back under your Obama rock.

[getts182]

Here's the article from Politico.com that goes over the use of music in campaigns. It's long, but worth the read. It was written by Suz Redfearn.

What is it with Republicans and musical artists?
Bruce Springsteen got piping mad when Ronald Reagan used “Born in the U.S.A.” on the campaign trail in 1984. Then Tom Petty threatened to sue George W. Bush in 2000 when the then-presidential hopeful co-opted “I Won’t Back Down.” And earlier in this year’s primaries, the guitarist from the band Boston got miffed because Mike Huckabee was playing bass (yes, playing bass) on “More Than a Feeling” on the road.
Cease-and-desist letters from musicians have rained down like confetti on Republicans over the years. But nothing compares to the virtual commune full of left-leaning artists who are mad at John McCain right now, though, in most cases, they have no legal basis to stop him from using their songs.
Let’s start with the band Heart, whose thumping 1977 hit “Barracuda” was blasted in the Xcel Energy Center just after McCain’s acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention as the vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, joined him amid dropping balloons. The song was meant as a cool tip of the hat to Palin’s nickname, “Sarah Barracuda,” when she was a cutthroat high school basketball star.
It could have been to the 2008 Republican ticket what Fleetwood Mac’s “Don’t Stop (Thinking About Tomorrow)” was to the Democratic ticket in 1992: a fun and inspiring anthem that would cue up and roll in voters’ heads to positive effect whenever they laid eyes on the vice presidential pick.
Instead, it backfired. The day after McCain’s speech, Heart’s labels, Universal Music and Sony BMG, released a statement asking the campaign to, well, cease and desist.
“The Republican campaign did not ask for permission to use the song, nor would they have been granted permission,” Heart’s Ann and Nancy Wilson wrote on their website. “We have asked the Republican campaign not to use our music. We hope our wishes will be honored.”
They weren’t. The McCain campaign responded by continuing to use “Barracuda” on the trail. “I feel completely f——- over,” Nancy Wilson wrote to Entertainment Weekly.
Van Halen is not happy, either. Right before McCain unveiled Palin as his vice presidential pick in Dayton, Ohio, his team played Van Halen’s “Right Now.” A few hours later, the band’s publicist announced that the campaign was never granted permission to use the track, and said that had permission been sought, it would not have been granted. Ouch.
And then there’s John Mellencamp, who had his agent call the McCain campaign when he learned it was using “Pink Houses” and “Our Country” on the trail in February. “John said to me, ‘Don’t they know whose songs these are? Please tell them who I am: a left-wing Democrat,’” said Bob Merlis, Mellencamp’s publicist.
Then John Hall, co-founder of the band Orleans and coincidentally a Democratic New York congressman, asked the McCain camp to stop using “Still the One” early this summer.
What do all the cease-and-desist letters and testy calls amount to legally, though? Not much, if the songwriters licensed the public performance rights to their music to the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers or Broadcast Music Inc. And the vast majority of artists, including Heart, have done that. Buying an ASCAP or BMI license allows a venue (or a campaign, if it purchases a traveling blanket license) to play any of about 8 million songs during their events. Though it might be a nice courtesy, the licensees are not obligated to call the artist to discuss.
The McCain-Palin campaign told Politico that in 2007 it purchased both ASCAP and BMI licenses that cover the use of tunes for all public events. Campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said, “Our campaign respects copyrights and obtains licenses whenever the law requires, and any suggestion otherwise is flat wrong.”
Though an ASCAP or BMI license is usually all it takes out on the campaign trail, if artists are really mad and feel the use of their music appeared to be an endorsement by them, the artist can sue under various states’ laws about right of publicity, charging false advertising. Another option would be to sue under the Lanham Act, in relation to trademark law.
In the case of “Barracuda,” “You could argue that this is a form of implied endorsement by the members of Heart, and the writers of the song, and you need their permission to do that,” explained longtime music industry copyright lawyer David Altschul.
None of the artists who have spoken out against the public performance of their songs for McCain’s campaign appearances have taken this tack yet.
On the Obama side? So far, no such trouble from the mostly left-leaning musicians whose songs he uses. An Obama campaign spokesman told Politico, “We haven’t heard any complaints from any of the artists whose music we’ve used at any of our events,” and that includes Brooks & Dunn, whose anthemic country song “Only in America” was played just after Obama’s acceptance speech in Denver. Interestingly,

[fredzeskater]

john mccain is a ****.

obama needs to win this, or the entire world is ****eddddd even more.

[Odin]

I'm not American, so I can't comment on the politics over there. As for the point, I agree with Grohl. McCain should have asked for permission. How hard is it to just pick up the phone and call the artist. It's just courtesy, and gives out respect. Any comparison made to a song being used at a party or a high school prom, etc, is retarded. In the instances it's not being used to promote anything, unlike the way in which McCain used the song.

If I was Grohl I'd be damn annoyed about not being asked permission. Personally, if I were Grohl, and someone wanted to use my song for political means, I'd refuse, regardless of who I supported. I wouldn't want my songs used in any way like that.

[dan1985smith]

fredzeskater wrote:

john mccain is a ****.

obama needs to win this, or the entire world is ****eddddd even more.

TOOL

[getts182]

Crap, it cut off my last post. Eh, just go here: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13477.html.

[Useful_Idiot16]

fredzeskater wrote:

john mccain is a ****.

obama needs to win this, or the entire world is ****eddddd even more.

Give me reasons now or that statement is just another MTV driven 13 year old child piece of garbage.

[Mahoru]

Scott O wrote:

"The saddest thing about this is that 'My Hero' was written as a celebration of the common man and his extraordinary potential."

Exactly. And that exemplifies McCain perfectly. Obama is just an empty suit who has never really accomplished anything significant. He came from a middle class background (though he lies and claims he was poor) and can't even pass a background check for the FBI.

Its amazing how Obama supporters ignore the fact that he has ties to a domestic terrorist and a cop killer, and a church that wants "...God to damn Amerkkka!"

BTW, the poster named Mahoru might be the dumbest person on the planet. I hope that no one lets you play with sharp objects.

Well, I say the same, to me you sound like one of the dumbest persons on the planet. It's just a matter of view. Pro McCain's will agree with you and pro Obama's will agree with me, that's it.

You should do a bit of research before claiming something, don't do like your beloved republicans who go as far as claiming false facts about themselves and their opponents

It's not that I'm pro Obama, I'm not even American so I see it from more objective point of view: I'm pro freedom, rights, change, evolution, peace and improvement, and McCain means nothing of those things to me.

[dan1985smith]

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

fredzeskater wrote:

john mccain is a ****.

obama needs to win this, or the entire world is ****eddddd even more.

Give me reasons now or that statement is just another MTV driven 13 year old child piece of garbage.

Exactly why I wrote "TOOL" under his post lol. Isn't it amazing?

[Useful_Idiot16]

dan1985smith wrote:

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

fredzeskater wrote:

john mccain is a ****.

obama needs to win this, or the entire world is ****eddddd even more.

Give me reasons now or that statement is just another MTV driven 13 year old child piece of garbage.

Exactly why I wrote "TOOL" under his post lol. Isn't it amazing?

What's more amazing is how I have seen countless McCain bashing posts and absolutely no information backing them up. How odd is that! Does this mean that people are just jumping on the McCain Bashing Wagon?

[Virtuoosi]

Obama FTW!

[dan1985smith]

Or maybe it means that they are practicing, as Mahoru said, "don't do like your beloved republicans who go as far as claiming false facts about themselves and their opponents." Could it be that maybe, just maybe the liberals are doing this? Could it be? Of course not, I mean the media loves those democrats so obviously they are perfect! /endsarcasm again

I get sick of the mccain bashers. If you really read what they type, you can do nothing but laugh at them.

[JRowe3388]

Matt_1213 wrote:
Every Democrat government has made a mess of things, but the next generation just keeps going back because they're 'new' and 'fresh' and its 'a change'.

And so history repeats itself...again.

What the **** are you talking about? Remember the Great Depression? It took 3 Republicans to put us in it, and a democrat pulled us out.

And then, we were in a deficit with republicans. Then we elected Clinton, and we had a surplus. Given history.

History will repeat itself. Obama will pull us out of the shit that Bush put us in.

[dan1985smith]

Virtuoosi wrote:

Obama FTW!

Here's another genius... thanks for getting your point across

[B.do]

if i were the foos, i wouldnt even take money in order for McCain use my song, hell i'd even pay him not to use it.

[wfbrady09]

heebblow101 wrote:

they are absolutly Right, John Mc Cain needs to respect the artists before he starts using there songs without Permission!!! He id the same with Van Halen and Eddie was pissed! Just Because that retard Srah Palin Likes Van Halen gives her no right to use that Song. Buch of Idiots we got that want to run this country!!!

Speaking of a bunch(notice the spelling) of idiots (notice the lower case). Use some sense before you bash someone.

[dan1985smith]

JRowe3388 wrote:

Matt_1213 wrote:
Every Democrat government has made a mess of things, but the next generation just keeps going back because they're 'new' and 'fresh' and its 'a change'.

And so history repeats itself...again.


What the **** are you talking about? Remember the Great Depression? It took 3 Republicans to put us in it, and a democrat pulled us out.

And then, we were in a deficit with republicans. Then we elected Clinton, and we had a surplus. Given history.

History will repeat itself. Obama will pull us out of the shit that Bush put us in.

You do realize it takes anywhere between 4-8 years for a President's real work to actually surface? For all we know, Clinton has had a big hand in putting us where we are. If I had to guess, i'd say that's true. Do democrats really still think that guy was a great President? I guess they will CONTINUE to vote for people who are willing to blatantly lie, under oath no less, to their entire country.

[Useful_Idiot16]

JRowe3388 wrote:

Matt_1213 wrote:
Every Democrat government has made a mess of things, but the next generation just keeps going back because they're 'new' and 'fresh' and its 'a change'.

And so history repeats itself...again.

What the **** are you talking about? Remember the Great Depression? It took 3 Republicans to put us in it, and a democrat pulled us out.

And then, we were in a deficit with republicans. Then we elected Clinton, and we had a surplus. Given history.

History will repeat itself. Obama will pull us out of the shit that Bush put us in.

But to get in office Clinton said he would never raise taxes for middle class, then he said "Oh I'm so sorry but these taxes have to go UP!"
He was a very good liar indeed.
Now what is Obama saying right now, something about tax cuts for middle class.

[jcthomasva]

This is merely left-leaning artists not wanting their music to be associated with a Republican politician. Democratic politicians use music without "permission" all the time, but do not draw the same sort of ire that Republicans do.

The fact of the matter is that, for non-commercial purposes, "permission" is not required.

I would be curious to see how a disagreement like this would pan out in court, but as far as I'm aware, none of them have gone through litigation other than the filing of cease-and-desist orders.

By Grohl's logic, Harry Truman's appropriation of "I'm Just Wild About Harry" for his campaign perverted the meaning of the original song, which was not about Harry Truman, per se, but a woman's romantic interest, who just happened to be named Harry.

[southern_stylin]

And if Harper or Dion were to do the same thing, not one person would bat an eye.....

Why is the world so focused on the election in the States? Because there is a damn good chance someone is about to get assassinated on live tv.

[dan1985smith]

still waiting, dems... still waiting. Please prove us wrong.

[thecheat3224]

This is ridiculous.

[Tulkas]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

If I, someone who's fairly liberal, wrote a song, and Obama used it without permission I'd be pissed off. I'd probably grant permission if he asked, but I'd expect him to be courteous about it. But someone who's politically opposite from me, I'd be so angry.
Tulkas wrote:
Then leave. Or if Obama is elected just stick around. His economic plan is to boost sales of Rosetta Stone when everybody has to learn Arabic. Racism doesn't make you cool.

What on earth is racist about what I said? You don't think that with Obama in the White House that Iran et. al. won't test him out with defiance of sanctions & bullying on foreign relations?

They'll be itching for Jihad! I know you Obamaist have been wanting to play the race card, but that is just an illustration of your ignorance.

I notice that while you didn't like what I said, and wanted to attack me for being a racist, despite no racist comment you....it must be a liberal thing.....failed to answer my question as to what one positive he would bring to the presidency.

Don't let us get off topic onto things like issues.

[Useful_Idiot16]

Wow, Republicans seem to be dominating this. I'm not impressed Dems, looks like I'm still voting for McCain! LOL.

[dan1985smith]

rockfanatik00 wrote:

**** you randy bobandy and all republicans for that matter

This is the same quality of content we are getting from all liberal posters on this thread. Who's surprised?

[wtf290]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

It's funny to see all of the 15 year lefty Obama turds try to dis McCain on useing some mainstream band's music. Who cares? Almost all commercial bands ***** their music out to the media anyway. Democrats need to be rounded up into camps, everytime i see some liberal bullshit on T.V. or radio spreading propaganda bullshit, i just want to rape and murder about 30 of 'em and send there bodies to Ted Nugent as a thank you gift...

This is why we need to be able to use the emoticon tags outside the forum. So in cases of a post like that,
:facepalm:

[southern_stylin]

Chuck Palaniuk:

"You're polishing the brass on the Titanic. It's all going down, man..."

I suppose this 'forum' does emphasize the difference between YOU (U.S.A.ians) and US (the rest of the free world). While most of the world is thoroughly convinced that we have to all work together to solve the problems we face, you guys are too busy fighting yourselves. North vs. South, Red vs. Blue, Major League vs. American League, or, more locally, Megadeth vs. Metallica.

Hey USA! Don't you realize everyone hates you?

[jshwak]

Wow.. nothing like some politics to get the UG'ers fired up !!

[TheNthDimension]

The band is currently taking a "long break" from touring and recording music and hope to return eventually with a new sense of being.

A new sense of what?

[wtf290]

southern_stylin wrote:

I suppose this 'forum' does emphasize the difference between YOU (U.S.A.ians) and US (the rest of the free world). While most of the world is thoroughly convinced that we have to all work together to solve the problems we face, you guys are too busy fighting yourselves. North vs. South, Red vs. Blue, Major League vs. American League, or, more locally, Megadeth vs. Metallica.

So you're saying there's no conflict of any kind, anywhere in the world, except for the States.
I envy your ignorant bliss.

[Useful_Idiot16]

rockfanatik00 wrote:

**** you randy bobandy and all republicans for that matter

Damn I thought some real intelligence was going to show up soon! Guess I can't hold liberals to that.

[Dreamgirl]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

It's funny to see all of the 15 year lefty Obama turds try to dis McCain on useing some mainstream band's music. Who cares? Almost all commercial bands ***** their music out to the media anyway. Democrats need to be rounded up into camps, everytime i see some liberal bullshit on T.V. or radio spreading propaganda bullshit, i just want to rape and murder about 30 of 'em and send there bodies to Ted Nugent as a thank you gift...

From comments like this it's plain to see what kind of sicko supporters are backing McCain...wow...THANK GOD FOR OBAMA!

[gibsonLP68]

davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.

You are ****ing ignorant. Are you a nigger

[Ricky4635]

I'm Canadien but, I defintaly support Barrak Obama. If anybody else wins the election it's going to be George Bush all over again.

[Vinjar]

understand Foo, wonder if i can find it on youtube, i wanne rank it down to 1 star hope foo dont take a really long break, i want more of them, and i wanne see them live again

[dobby240]

DAMMIT ignorant wankhole start asking people ESPECIALLY DAVE GROHL!!!

[gibsonLP68]

fredzeskater wrote:

john mccain is a ****.

obama needs to win this, or the entire world is ****eddddd even more.

Wtf? What does Obama have to do with the rest of the world? Fucking idiot

[Patrick L]

everyone dissing the foos can shut the hell up.they have every right to protect the rights to their song.

[Black Hole Sun]

There are so many people here who chose a political party because of everyone else. There's the "Let's be a rebel, let's be liberal," people, and then there's the "everyone else is liberal, I can't go with the crowd, let's be conservative." I know there are people who actually have made an educated choice, but the majority haven't.

Also, typical conversation here is:
Liberal: McCain sucks, Obama rules.
Conservative: You're a tool. You haven't given any reasons. Obama sucks, McCain rules.

[eltravo]

flea878 wrote:

Well if you heard it on wikipedia it must be true

actually I saw it on MSNBC...

[IamGod 666]

Ricky4635 wrote:

I'm Canadien but, I defintaly support Barrak Obama. If anybody else wins the election it's going to be George Bush all over again.

Nobody asked your opinion about the election. And On top of that you don't know what your talking about.

[Ginnagan]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.

Somone watches FAUX news too much.

[Dreamgirl]

gibsonLP68 :
davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.


You are ****ing ignorant. Are you a nigger

How Racism Works...

What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the
election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.

With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. consider...

Educational Background:

Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

again...WOW

[Useful_Idiot16]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

There are so many people here who chose a political party because of everyone else. There's the "Let's be a rebel, let's be liberal," people, and then there's the "everyone else is liberal, I can't go with the crowd, let's be conservative." I know there are people who actually have made an educated choice, but the majority haven't.

Also, typical conversation here is:
Liberal: McCain sucks, Obama rules.
Conservative: You're a tool. You haven't given any reasons. Obama sucks, McCain rules.

I've only seen educated responses from the Republicans, except one which I didn't like at all, no one should talk about rape like a joke. Can't say the same for the Dems.

[southern_stylin]

wtf290 :

So you're saying there's no conflict of any kind, anywhere in the world, except for the States.
I envy your ignorant bliss.

Funny, that's not at all what I wrote. I was merely comparing the state of mind that seems apparent in most of the free world that I have visited to the confrontational attitudes of the 'good ol' boys' from the States. But, way to change my statement around to better fit your own derogatory mindset. And besides, the major conflicts that are occuring in less fortunate areas of the world can be directly attributed to the U.S.A.

[Phoenix_24Leas]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

It's funny to see all of the 15 year lefty Obama turds try to dis McCain on useing some mainstream band's music. Who cares? Almost all commercial bands ***** their music out to the media anyway. Democrats need to be rounded up into camps, everytime i see some liberal bullshit on T.V. or radio spreading propaganda bullshit, i just want to rape and murder about 30 of 'em and send there bodies to Ted Nugent as a thank you gift...

*claps* wow Bobandy wow, you are just, just....

Retarded.

I don't have anything against McCain but let's face it, Obama could probly run this country ten times better than McCain could actually do. McCain would only be another Bush and who wants that? Frankly, I don't think universal health care and cheaper tuition is not all that bad.

And Palin is the DUMBEST VP candidate I've ever seen, I hope her leadership isn't as bad as her ignorance cause otherwise we're ****ed.

[momowagon]

Grohl is just telling his fans how he thinks they should vote through cheap media theatrics. He knows full well he has no legal leg to stand on.

Looks like the sheep are lining up to vote for obama.

A Campaign rally is legally equivalent to any large gathering. Prom, office party, whatever. Dave doesn't get to decide who listens to his song and when. He shouldn't have released it if he was so worried about it getting used by people he disagrees with.

[Randy Bobandy]

It could be fun actually if Barry the socialist toilet log wins. Imagine all the fun we will have learning foreign languages, kissing Islams ass and paying out of our paychecks for deadbeats who won't work along with their 12 children black families.


YO YO YO YO YO YO YO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION Y'ALL!

[Phoenix_24Leas]

Oh crap I think I caught myself in a double negative, Universal health care and cheaper tuition=good

[dan1985smith]

eltravo wrote:

flea878 wrote:

Well if you heard it on wikipedia it must be true


actually I saw it on MSNBC...

Actually the other guy said he heard it on wikipedia and that is the only post he was responding to, thus leaving your "correction" irrelevant

[whitestrat279]

I think McCain should use All Summer Long by Kid Rock, since he stole other people's music lol.

And good job to the guy who did the research on all the canidate's school records, its a real eye opener.

[Necrosaber]

gibsonLP68 wrote:

davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.

You are ****ing ignorant. Are you a nigger

Irony.

[dan1985smith]

OK i'm outta here. I can't handle the ignorant left wing liberals any longer! This is getting absurd. Now watch, they are going to start commenting on my posts NOW that i'm gone. Pathetic. peace out, Mccain 08

[dan1985smith]

OK i'm outta here. I can't handle the ignorant left wing liberals any longer! This is getting absurd. Now watch, they are going to start commenting on my posts NOW that i'm gone. Pathetic. peace out, Mccain 08

[Smokey Amp]

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

Wow, Republicans seem to be dominating this. I'm not impressed Dems, looks like I'm still voting for McCain! LOL.

It's good to see that you base your actions/thoughts on other people's opinions.

[FaceXXxxD0wn]

McCain is as ignorant as they come...

[Phoenix_24Leas]

dan1985smith wrote:

OK i'm outta here. I can't handle the ignorant left wing liberals any longer! This is getting absurd. Now watch, they are going to start commenting on my posts NOW that i'm gone. Pathetic. peace out, Mccain 08

ah **** he was right....

and to those that say Dave is being a bitch about money and legal issues, its not about that. If you properly read the article the foos are upset because it's a total perversion of what the song meant to them

[powerstroke]

gibsonLP68 wrote:

davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.


You are ****ing ignorant. Are you a nigger

I wonder who you are voting for. Racist? Elitist? Definitely republican.

[kennyvspenny]

Finally! This is wrong. If you can't ****ing download a Metallica song on Limewire, the PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, someone who is supposed to be a role model (but clearly is not) shouldn't be doing it.

My extreme hate for McCain aside, as an artist I completely agree with the Foo Fighters. And whoever said McCain is ignorant +9.

If he does win in the end, we're fuct. Plain and simple.

[southern_stylin]

I hope Dion and McCain win their respective elections....

I just think it would be hilarious watching them trying to decipher each others accents. That and there is a good chance Dion would totally bitch-slap Pallin for screwing up all the pipeline deals.

[Ir8sob]

southern_stylin wrote:

Chuck Palaniuk:

"You're polishing the brass on the Titanic. It's all going down, man..."

I suppose this 'forum' does emphasize the difference between YOU (U.S.A.ians) and US (the rest of the free world). While most of the world is thoroughly convinced that we have to all work together to solve the problems we face, you guys are too busy fighting yourselves. North vs. South, Red vs. Blue, Major League vs. American League, or, more locally, Megadeth vs. Metallica.

Hey USA! Don't you realize everyone hates you?

it's national league vs. american league.
As far as the world hating us here in the USA you're right. The U.S. should pull out it's troops from all points in the world outside of our borders, stop all foreign aid, opt out of NATO, basically tell everyone we have our own problems to deal with and to deal with your own. Let's see how your govt. handles having to beef up their defense spending, and watch all the arms races that start in the world.

[Necrosaber]

It's just funny seeing most of you. All you guys do is stereotype each other.

If you're pro Obama, you MUST be an MTV watching brainwashed teenager who's just voting for whatever is popular.

If you're pro McCain, you MUST be a money hungry Christian who's probably just voting for him because it's AGAINST what's "in".

For the most part, all I see are people spewing ad campaigns that they just take as truth and covers their eyes and ears to everything else.

How about we all just sit down and look at the damn issues instead of just trying to defend your "team".

[Stratogibson]

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

No he's mad because he doesn't support McCain and he's using his music. same thing happend in 04.

[southern_stylin]

Sorry, National League, good catch. I don't watch much US tv. Nothing but garbage. Damn Fox Network. Have you ever noticed how many pill commercials they have on US tv compared to Canadian? Off topic, I know.....

[Eternium]

Isn't this copyright infringement or something? Unless the record company agreed to it, but I guess they should have mentioned that if they did. If not, sue the guy. He does not have the right to randomly use songs, I'd be pissed off too.

[Dreamgirl]

Necrosaber :
It's just funny seeing most of you. All you guys do is stereotype each other.

If you're pro Obama, you MUST be an MTV watching brainwashed teenager who's just voting for whatever is popular.

If you're pro McCain, you MUST be a money hungry Christian who's probably just voting for him because it's AGAINST what's "in".

For the most part, all I see are people spewing ad campaigns that they just take as truth and covers their eyes and ears to everything else.

How about we all just sit down and look at the damn issues instead of just trying to defend your "team".

How Racism Works...

What if John McCain were a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if Obama were a member of the Keating-5?
What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if McCain were still married to the first woman he said 'I do' to?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the
election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.

With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. consider...

Educational Background:

Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

Nope...just not voting for a bunch of idiots! =D

[SmileOfHavok]

devilshalo122 wrote:

liberals

are awesome.

[napalm890]

H_ngm_n wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.


No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.

LOL so true, I can't believe someone actually believed those campain ads

[Useful_Idiot16]

Smokey Amp wrote:

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

Wow, Republicans seem to be dominating this. I'm not impressed Dems, looks like I'm still voting for McCain! LOL.

It's good to see that you base your actions/thoughts on other people's opinions.

No sorry, I do research for myself and choose my own party. Trust me I used to be one of those little kids who thought Green Day songs were the gospel and George Bush was the devil. Then I started doing my own research and saw that the only party with any sense were the Republicans.

[Dreamgirl]

napalm890 :
H_ngm_n wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.


No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.



LOL so true, I can't believe someone actually believed those campain ads

What's hilarious is watching McCain and his sidekick desperately trying to win this election when it's clearly OVER for them..haha!!!

[jesus-mobile]

Dreamgirl wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

It's funny to see all of the 15 year lefty Obama turds try to dis McCain on useing some mainstream band's music. Who cares? Almost all commercial bands ***** their music out to the media anyway. Democrats need to be rounded up into camps, everytime i see some liberal bullshit on T.V. or radio spreading propaganda bullshit, i just want to rape and murder about 30 of 'em and send there bodies to Ted Nugent as a thank you gift...
From comments like this it's plain to see what kind of sicko supporters are backing McCain...wow...THANK GOD FOR OBAMA!

You forget where you are.

[Stratogibson]

Scott O wrote:

"The saddest thing about this is that 'My Hero' was written as a celebration of the common man and his extraordinary potential."

Exactly. And that exemplifies McCain perfectly. Obama is just an empty suit who has never really accomplished anything significant. He came from a middle class background (though he lies and claims he was poor) and can't even pass a background check for the FBI.

Its amazing how Obama supporters ignore the fact that he has ties to a domestic terrorist and a cop killer, and a church that wants "...God to damn Amerkkka!"

BTW, the poster named Mahoru might be the dumbest person on the planet. I hope that no one lets you play with sharp objects.

Don't let Republicans play with our government. That could be dangerous.

[Useful_Idiot16]

Dreamgirl wrote:

napalm890 :
H_ngm_n wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.


No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.



LOL so true, I can't believe someone actually believed those campain ads

What's hilarious is watching McCain and his sidekick desperately trying to win this election when it's clearly OVER for them..haha!!!

Are you serious??? Do you really think it's over? I can't even believe you can really say that! Must be joking, atleast I hope so.

[CurlyBash]

yuck....

WHY ARE THERE POLITICS ON A METAL-BASED TABS WEBSITE?!?!

if anything, someone should be posting some sort of sex pistols anarchy quote

but for real, that really sucks for McCain.

[Robert I.]

Democrats/republicans, potato/potahto... their the same people, different masks... Now, if a socialist party, or even the commies got elected, that would be a major improvement to society!

[Robert I.]

although, since it's dem/rep in the fight, I have to admit that Obama seems like the safe bet...

[axejam123]

CJE wrote:

Wayward Sean wrote:

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but if McCain doesn't respect music enough to ask permission, doesn't that sort of signal that he doesn't respect the arts. The government has been pushing to take the arts out of school, and if he doesn't respect them, that could be the end to the arts (including music) in public schools altogether.

Of course McCain doesn't support the arts. He barely even supports the American people ourselves.

How can you even say that he doesn't support the American people?? Even if you disagree with his politics, he's running for president specifically so he CAN support the American people, just like Obama. That, and he has done a hundred times more for this country than anyone in this forum.

Someone earlier said the thing about John McCain was ignorant. I say all the people who post things like "his evil agendas" and crazy stuff like that are ignorant. He IS an extraordinary person. It doesn't necessarily qualify him for the presidency, that depends on how many people agree with his philosophies, but he still is extraordinary.

If you don't like America, get the hell out.

McCain 08.

[Useful_Idiot16]

Well it seems the liberal swarm just got home from middle school so I'm going to bow out now.

McCain is going to be our next president, learn to love it.

McCain 08'

[ShreddyKickflip]

Obama is against hunting, weapon possesion rights. and aims to change them. without hunting, the animal population would spiral out of control and kill the animal balance in our ecosystem. which would drive them to move into public places, like new york and seattle. republicans support the second ammendment so none of that would happen. That's why democrats are retarded, they don't think it through. and raising our taxes isn't the answer.

[Mr.Maccy]

Fo fighters are bellends anyway, whinging over the use of a song, get back in the studio you 3 chord horses

[southern_stylin]

So which one (Democrat or Republican) is going to pull all the troops from hotspots, give free heathcare to all, lower taxes and legalize marijuana and prostitution? Anyone? Does anyone actually know what these different parties platforms are? What the hell do these men stand for? So far all I can come up with based on your arguments is that one party is red and one is blue.

[Mahoru]

Stratogibson wrote:

Don't let Republicans play with our government. That could be dangerous.

Completely agree. It's actually funny how Scott O attacked me... maybe it's because he knew I was right and he had no reasons to back a counter attack?

[Ir8sob]

Robert I. wrote:

Democrats/republicans, potato/potahto... their the same people, different masks... Now, if a socialist party, or even the commies got elected, that would be a major improvement to society!

and exactly how would that be an improvement?

[b-rock34]

My vote is for anarchy!!!

[mingoglia]

If I was a mainstream musician I would be flattered if someone wanted to use my song. Having your song heard in public is what makes people such as myself want to go out and purchase the album. I'm sure using these songs can be traced to boosted sales. They'll make their money that way. They'll be compensated and demand for new music will go up. They're just bent because they don't want to be associated with the Republican party. This type of petty act (yes, I said petty) is what causes me to add Foo Fighters to my list of artists in which I'll no longer support.

[Mahoru]

mingoglia wrote:

This type of petty act (yes, I said petty) is what causes me to add Foo Fighters to my list of artists in which I'll no longer support.

For me it's the opposite. I already liked them a lot, but now that I've seen they defend their ideals and don't let anyone use their work for their own interests (which in this case are the opposite ones) I like them even more.

[southern_stylin]

A list of artists you no longer support?

Who the **** do you think you are? You think the Foo Fighters give a rat's ass if you support them or not? What is it about you that makes your support so damn important?

Go ahead and add yourself to my list of random anonymous internet people whose opinion affects anyones life not in the slightest.

[Phoenix_24Leas]

mingoglia wrote:

If I was a mainstream musician I would be flattered if someone wanted to use my song. Having your song heard in public is what makes people such as myself want to go out and purchase the album. I'm sure using these songs can be traced to boosted sales. They'll make their money that way. They'll be compensated and demand for new music will go up. They're just bent because they don't want to be associated with the Republican party. This type of petty act (yes, I said petty) is what causes me to add Foo Fighters to my list of artists in which I'll no longer support.

HOLY CRAP PEOPLE it's notabout the money, it's about the music. Money has no relevance in what they're saying

[zombiekangaroo]

thats why u vote obama

[AStrangleHold]

Personally I'd be honored if John McCain used on of my songs even without permission.. He just doesn't like McCain and so he makes it look so much worse than it actually is..
Mitt Romney '08

[littleleo88]

should have used "the pretender" instead.

compared to senator obama, he'd be a terrible president.

[edgeyyz]

Nerdo-sez-bo wrote:

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.


When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

+100000

[JPetrucci25]

he should use master of puppets.

[GnikNus]

ShreddyKickflip wrote:

Obama is against hunting, weapon possesion rights. and aims to change them. without hunting, the animal population would spiral out of control and kill the animal balance in our ecosystem. which would drive them to move into public places, like new york and seattle. republicans support the second ammendment so none of that would happen. That's why democrats are retarded, they don't think it through. and raising our taxes isn't the answer.

i'm sorry, but lawl

[everlong12]

getts182 wrote:

They should do what they did in 2004, and start playing at Obama events.

that would be tight

[Jacob6293]

come on get over it. he should've used i cum blood anyway.

[southern_stylin]

Well you guys better get on this election quick. McCain's gonna die right away.....

[sowhat360]

H_ngm_n wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.

And you know you're a redneck if....you are Randy Bobandy

[Smithsc]

damn! screw mccain! isnt he dead yet anyhow?

[smalRaptor]

I kind of look like Dave Grohl right now. Not on purpose, but it's the consequence I pay when a haircut and a shave are both long overdue.

[Lou_dog 71]

McCain is a ****ing chode

OBAMA CAN SAVE AMERICA

[TastyMooglePie]

Necrosaber wrote:

It's just funny seeing most of you. All you guys do is stereotype each other.

If you're pro Obama, you MUST be an MTV watching brainwashed teenager who's just voting for whatever is popular.

If you're pro McCain, you MUST be a money hungry Christian who's probably just voting for him because it's AGAINST what's "in".

For the most part, all I see are people spewing ad campaigns that they just take as truth and covers their eyes and ears to everything else.

How about we all just sit down and look at the damn issues instead of just trying to defend your "team".

ZOMG an intelligent comment!

[bamann]

Its just a shame that most of the media, musicians, actors, and unions fall prey to liberal ways. I can understand because most of these groups have money and feel like their better than others. Thats the liberal way. They feel that the common working man is just that. Common! That they cant think or provide for themselves or their families. They believe that they know what is right and good and that they can provide for you because you don't know any better. I understand the click in the business. And, I believe that the foo fighters really had no choice but to say something. It's all about image..which translates to money. Do you believe for one minute that the foo fighters has a political adgenda? Ya, ok. I regress. So I really dont take this to seriously. Now if you were to say something along the lines of Johnny Cougar Mellencamp. Then I would take it to heart.

[southern_stylin]

I don't think Obama is really that concerned with America, that's been out of the reach of most of your Presidents for the last few decades. He will probably do good for the U.S. however. As long as he does something about that useless Iraq invasion.

[imabookie3]

McCain should just cut the shit and start using "search and destroy"

[Mahoru]

"yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats.."

Now if only that was true... so sad it isn't

[little-nicky>:)]

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

fag

[smalRaptor]

I love how all this article is about is misuse of a song. And it's turned into a big fight of people destroying each other's beliefs. Verbally assaulting users who aren't supporting the same candidate as you isn't going to change anything.

[The_Authentic_1]

I'm a registered Republican and if you think I'm voting John McCain then you’re mistaken.

Honestly I see a lot of Republicans on here talking about America and if you don't like America get the hell out Liberals should die etc...etc... To me I've never been a fan of choosing sides between Democrat and Republican. I thought we live in the "United" States of America but here we are even on a simple website standing divided. To me it comes down to the fact that McCain is far too old to be president and they hide his medical records and to be honest the guy is a bit of an old coot. He would more then likely pass away sometime during his term and hey at least I'm a realist and the last person I want running the country is the ditzy moronic Palin.

As for the Foo Fighters and the whole song debacle, it’s their song they can do what they please with it. If they don't want it tied to McCain then they should have the right to make them stop using it. Copyright laws are in place for a reason are you telling me its ok for McCain to publically break the law? If someone was using my material in a national spotlight under contexts in which I don't agree with I'd be just as upset.

[Aerotides]

theotherguy7145 wrote:

lockedandlogan wrote:

I'd just be pumped that McCain was diggin' my music. Everyone talks about how old he is but he's still rockin' the Foo Fighters. This certainly makes him a symbol of hope for the often disrespected older generation.

But in all seriousness I'd be annoyed too.

If he respected the musicians then he'd recognize what the song was about, and ask their permission first.
Its wrong

You guys actually think McCain picked this song? Do you think he sits there and writes all of his attack ads and stuff? Obviously he doesn't. The guy doesn't know how to use a damn computer, he's not out there downloading music on the internets.

[Aerotides]

ampoverload wrote:

foo foghters are abunch of liberal dumbasses. Republicans play the best guitar!!!!!

Stupidest thing I've ever read.

[GimmeFuel]

I could easily bet good money that it's the McCain CAMPAIGN and not John McCain himself who picks the songs he plays.

I love the Foos but this disappointing. If I was a famous musician, I'd feel honored that a presidential candidate used my song at a rally or wherever. Unless the person who was running was a total disgrace, of course.

It's weird how people say Republicans are the "rich party" yet almost every celebrity, media outlet and musician are liberal.

[southern_stylin]

Is it a pre-requisite in the States that the President be fluent in both national languages? Just curious.

[LifesSweetDrug]

flea878 wrote:

Well if you heard it on wikipedia it must be true

I read on wikipedia that I have a big cock. Oh, I wrote that?

[SirJoesephXD]

ok now... you said until 5:30 correct?

I'll admit that Barack Obama isnt neccesarily the absolute best candidate for the commander in chief. But I find hes a better candidate than McCain. If you've enjoyed the past 8 years with perfect content, then fine... vote McCain. Personally I'm voting Obama.
He has respect for the common people, he has at least a plan to fix the economic crisis that apparently is in our heads... meanwhile people are just imagining that theyre losing their jobs and homes.

McCain by far is NO idiot. And I believe is much more qualified for the job of president BUT. He doesnt have proper standings as far as our relations with foreign affairs. I agree with the democratic tickets concept of more of the same. But I think theyre a bit radical. My vote is leaning towards the democratic ticket because of their economic plans. And more domesticly focused attentions.

McCain WILL not help the lower class citizens (and im not sure Obama will either). But i know for a fact that the republican party will not restrain themselves on environmental policies (pollution, fuels, general natural resource policy) and that IS a problem.

It's said by Plato that all wars are fought over money. While money is obviously McCains primary concern. The WHOLE WORLD isnt screwed BUT I'm not sure McCain is equipped with a very good VP. And thats a serious problem. Sarah Palin is NOT Joe Biden not by a mile. While I believe Obama is nearing equal ground to McCain.

Im liberal but if McCain had slightly shifted policies or even a GOOD V.P... i might vote for him.

[Aerotides]

GimmeFuel wrote:

I could easily bet good money that it's the McCain CAMPAIGN and not John McCain himself who picks the songs he plays.

I love the Foos but this disappointing. If I was a famous musician, I'd feel honored that a presidential candidate used my song at a rally or wherever. Unless the person who was running was a total disgrace, of course.

It's weird how people say Republicans are the "rich party" yet almost every celebrity, media outlet and musician are liberal.

Musicians who have causes to write about and people who believe in that cause, can become rich and famous.

[MegaRon]

First Heart, now the Foo Fighters. You know, with Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel, this is going to be one hell of a fundraiser should it ever happen.

[Holy Katana]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

It's funny to see all of the 15 year lefty Obama turds try to dis McCain on useing some mainstream band's music. Who cares? Almost all commercial bands ***** their music out to the media anyway. Democrats need to be rounded up into camps, everytime i see some liberal bullshit on T.V. or radio spreading propaganda bullshit, i just want to rape and murder about 30 of 'em and send there bodies to Ted Nugent as a thank you gift...

You know, Hitler also sent leftists into concentration camps.

[Syn166]

davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.

I'm a Satanic Republican

[Aerotides]

kennyvspenny wrote:

Finally! This is wrong. If you can't ****ing download a Metallica song on Limewire, the PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, someone who is supposed to be a role model (but clearly is not) shouldn't be doing it.

My extreme hate for McCain aside, as an artist I completely agree with the Foo Fighters. And whoever said McCain is ignorant +9.

If he does win in the end, we're fuct. Plain and simple.

Okay, I don't support McCain either, but if you think the man his time to sit behind a computer and open up Limewire then you are an IDIOT. He doesn't even know how to use a computer.

[SirJoesephXD]

And honestly lets stop being idiots... i dont think the Foo Fighters NEED the "publicity" of McCain im pretty sure theyre happy with their millions of international fans. Or maybe their losing sleep wondering how theyre going to pay for their mortgages... oh wait! Bull***t... they have the money and publicity to not even have to KNOW McCain's running for president.

Get serious guys. you would think a community of artists might not be such tools about this but um... Intellectual property is something that is importan to anybody with creativity. Im the same way, I have no problem letting people use beats I make, or Graphics I create, or even things I write... IF they ask.

I dont know if its because not everyone here MAKES their own art or not... but its wrong to just use a song for obvious personal means if it can have real consequences.

If you READ the whole article youd blatantly understand why the FF are upset about it. Theyre not PISSED but obviously theyre upset. And they have every right to be. It could be because very few of you have anything people can ask you to use.

But Dave doesnt need McCains publicity... especially because hes not especially popular with a lot of FF fans... so yeah...

BTW intelligent responses would be nice

[southern_stylin]

Well, at least we'll have a few years before the majority of posters on this site will be allowed to vote. Maybe they'll grow a brain by then and stop letting the new found hormones govern their responses indiscriminately.

[mingoglia]

For the one that posted it "isn't about money". You're right. It isn't about money. In the SAME token it ALSO isn't about using a song without permission. It's about not wanting to be associated with the Republican party. Plane and simple. If it truly was about using the song without permission I'd respect that.

No offense to anyone here but I could not care less about what any musicians views about politics are so I couldn't care less who the Foo Fighers are/are not supporting. Same with actors/actresses. Are people in the spot light automagically smarter than other people? Why should an endorsement from them really matter?

[cloud041089]

did they use ki blasts?

[SirJoesephXD]

Aerotides: It's weird how people say Republicans are the "rich party" yet almost every celebrity, media outlet and musician are liberal.

Just so you know... if the republican party wasnt rich do you think McCain would say the middle class is anybody who isnt making at least 600k a year?

Or maybe Bush wouldnt exclusively be giving tax breaks to the rich.

BTW my aunt makes 6 figures easy and bought a mansion about a years or two ago. She told me she hates George Bush's policies and war, but LOVES how much money shes made while he was in office.

But no... rich people arent profiting in a republican term...

[Plan_B]

lockedandlogan wrote:

I'd just be pumped that McCain was diggin' my music. Everyone talks about how old he is but he's still rockin' the Foo Fighters. This certainly makes him a symbol of hope for the often disrespected older generation.

But in all seriousness I'd be annoyed too.

I think this is the best, and most honest comment on this page.

[LD_Luke D]

rolling stone doesn't seem to like McCain either

[sepsiskiss]

Old people cannot be trusted.

[brentondig]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

With all due respect to Dave Grohl, STFU! When you released the song it became free for the public to use as they wish. You don't here Ac/Dc bitching that "Hells Bells" is used at pretty much every high school sporting event.

John McCain is still a normal civilian just like the rest of us. What makes his use of the music any different from our use of it!?

If Dave Grohl writes a song, that doesn't make it Public Domain music like Yankee Doodle. Hell, McCain should play Yankee Doodle at his rallies.

Having John McCain play this song suggests that the Foo Fighters endorse McCain as their "Hero", and leader of the country. Which is NOT the case.

[SirJoesephXD]

southern_stylin :
Well, at least we'll have a few years before the majority of posters on this site will be allowed to vote. Maybe they'll grow a brain by then and stop letting the new found hormones govern their responses indiscriminately.

Yeah... thats what I was thinking... how many people here are even going to vote or even can vote?

mingoglia :
For the one that posted it "isn't about money". You're right. It isn't about money. In the SAME token it ALSO isn't about using a song without permission. It's about not wanting to be associated with the Republican party. Plane and simple. If it truly was about using the song without permission I'd respect that.

absolutely right... btw

Plane = sic
Plain = correct

[Hobo279]

weezergeek182 wrote:

foo fighters are acting like a bunch of dicks. they did this all with bush lready.

their new song sucks too!

If you're talking about Let it Die...what is wrong with you? I'm just saying, it's one of the best FF songs out there, although it's certainly the most different.

[Randy Bobandy]

Mahoru wrote:

Stratogibson wrote:

Don't let Republicans play with our government. That could be dangerous.


Completely agree. It's actually funny how Scott O attacked me... maybe it's because he knew I was right and he had no reasons to back a counter attack?

Wow, just when i though this thread couldn't get any more retarded....

Republicans = small goverment, big buisness, more jobs.

Democrats = big goverment, which means more control over peoples lives and bigger taxes to fund bullshit welfare programs...

Take your pick.

Hope that clears everything up for the MTV kidzs who got educated of Sponge Bob and cereal boxes.

[soundgarden19]

I hate Mccain what a ****ing maverick.

[sadsadtoaster]

soundgarden19 wrote:

I hate Mccain what a ****ing maverick.

Hell yeah.

[MTVget0FFtheAIR]

Of course i sympathize with the musicians for their music being unfairly played. however, it is quite clear to me that the musicians are more concerned with WHO is playing their songs than simply the fact that they are being played without permission. 99% of their concern in this matter is based around the fact that it is McCain that is playing their music, a politician they do not support. So really this is more about them not liking mccain than it is about their music. that makes it a pretty impure conflict imo. it really tarnishes the ideals of music themselves and so imo these artists are doing more bad than good for "the sake of music"

[thereverendsoup]

There's no such thing as a good band with Republicans in it.

Anyone who thinks the Republican party has anything to do with small government anymore has no right talking about "MTV kidzs who got educated of Sponge Bob and cereal boxes."

[Pinkfloyd35]

Jesus christ, McCain needs to stop this bull. Im sick of hearing of what sleaze bag Republicans can do, and every-time something like this i am not amazed... Mostly just disturbed.

[WarwickFunk]

I understand how the foo's dont appreciate good ol' John using their song and all. But that shouldnt give all of you uneducated liberal propaganda sponges a reason to bash him. If you actually researched what you "believe" in you might figure out that everything you think your supporting is backwards. Stop watching commercials and start reading books for the love of god, and if you dont believe in god then for you country. Thank you, good night and good luck.

[Pinkfloyd35]

sepsiskiss wrote:

Old people cannot be trusted.

Haha

[Braaterz]

Who here thinks John McCain himself actually picked out the song? Yeah...I didn't think so...

[Soozy]

This happened last election too...same song and everything. I think it's just common decency to ask a musician's approval for their music. I'd be upset if someone I didn't support was trying to win voters with my music. You can't blame Grohl

At least Palin didn't convince him to use 'Sexy Back'

[Reebokanonymous]

Grungy2425 wrote:

songs about Kurt. not McCain.. lol

He says the meaning of the song is the potential for every man to be a hero. Not Kurt. And just because the song is out there doesn't mean anyone can use it. All of you probably like to make up your own songs. Imagine someone you hate using that song to glorify himself.

[[travis]]

Foo Fighters just want more attention, as if they haven't got enough.

[<Paper Cuts>]

I hate politics.
I love the Foo Fighters.
This shouldn't mix at all. I don't understand why music is so important in this election anyway, it's all about the economy.
Elect the dead. Serj is perfect.

[Tulkas]

The_Authentic_1 wrote:
To me it comes down to the fact that McCain is far too old to be president and they hide his medical records and to be honest the guy is a bit of an old coot. He would more then likely pass away sometime during his term and hey at least I'm a realist and the last person I want running the country is the ditzy moronic Palin.

As for the Foo Fighters and the whole song debacle, it’s their song they can do what they please with it. If they don't want it tied to McCain then they should have the right to make them stop using it. Copyright laws are in place for a reason are you telling me its ok for McCain to publically break the law? If someone was using my material in a national spotlight under contexts in which I don't agree with I'd be just as upset.

That's one of the most ignorant methods of voting for president I have ever heard.

Also, get your facts straight, virtually all songs that can be played over radio, can be played publicly at venues so long as the party playing them has obtained an FCC license to do so.

Ignorance such as that and the ignorance of thinking voting McCain is voting for 4 more years of Bush will end up getting Obama elected.

Ignorance mind you, not the critical thought, logical deduction, and discussion of issues and solutions to the country's problems.

http://tinyurl.com/truthblog

[Braaterz]

thereverendsoup wrote:

There's no such thing as a good band with Republicans in it."

Umm...How bout the Ramones? Ted Nugent? Kiss? Stevie Ray Vaughan? his brother Jimmie? Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you make outrageous claims

It's kinda like blaming Bush for 9/11 and the economic issues...I mean he probably sent his distant cousins from Afghanistan to fly those planes into the world trade centers to force us to spend a lot of money on a war effort...Heck Bush probably told all those banks to give loans to all those people who couldn't afford them too right? Democratic logic is amazing...

[nothingman34]

Yes, there is no question that John McCain is very brave for his experience in the war, but that doesn't qualify him as a good candidate for president. Look at the political experience from both sides.. Obama is MUCH more educated than McCain, and Biden is obviously a better candidate for VP than the bimbo "hockey mom" Sarah Palin.

Conservatives should pull the cocks out of their mouths..

[highwind5150]

When did this become a political article???

[thereverendsoup]

Braaterz wrote:

thereverendsoup wrote:

There's no such thing as a good band with Republicans in it."

Umm...How bout the Ramones? Ted Nugent? Kiss? Stevie Ray Vaughan? his brother Jimmie? Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you make outrageous claims

It's kinda like blaming Bush for 9/11 and the economic issues...I mean he probably sent his distant cousins from Afghanistan to fly those planes into the world trade centers to force us to spend a lot of money on a war effort...Heck Bush probably told all those banks to give loans to all those people who couldn't afford them too right? Democratic logic is amazing...

All those bands are horrible. My statement stands.

[Exxol]

crue29_2008 wrote:
But on the Foo's part, its a bit harsh to say he's tarnishing the song. As a person (not necessarily as a politician) McCain is an extraordinary person. How can anyone deny that?

im not argueing that he didnt go through hell.. but the fact is, they didnt write the song with an election in mind.. and using it as a theme is kinda like stating that the song is representative of yourself.
in fact, i'd be downright pissed the **** off if some dickwad thought he could use my song in his campaign without permission... especially if i don't support his political views

[Braaterz]

thereverendsoup wrote:

Braaterz wrote:

thereverendsoup wrote:

There's no such thing as a good band with Republicans in it."

Umm...How bout the Ramones? Ted Nugent? Kiss? Stevie Ray Vaughan? his brother Jimmie? Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you make outrageous claims

It's kinda like blaming Bush for 9/11 and the economic issues...I mean he probably sent his distant cousins from Afghanistan to fly those planes into the world trade centers to force us to spend a lot of money on a war effort...Heck Bush probably told all those banks to give loans to all those people who couldn't afford them too right? Democratic logic is amazing...

All those bands are horrible. My statement stands.

Once again my statement stands..Democratic logic is horrible...

[highwind5150]

Can we all agree that there really isn't a politician who hasn't lied at some point or another?? We're going to get one or the other. Obama or McCain. I like McCain he's fought for this country and I can't talk crap on him for that cuz I haven't done that, but I prefer Obama. That's just me.

[Braaterz]

I'll tell ya what if we leave things unsettled in Iraq a failing economy will be the least of our worries...

[thereverendsoup]

Braaterz wrote:

thereverendsoup wrote:

Braaterz wrote:

thereverendsoup wrote:

There's no such thing as a good band with Republicans in it."

Umm...How bout the Ramones? Ted Nugent? Kiss? Stevie Ray Vaughan? his brother Jimmie? Maybe you should know what you're talking about before you make outrageous claims

It's kinda like blaming Bush for 9/11 and the economic issues...I mean he probably sent his distant cousins from Afghanistan to fly those planes into the world trade centers to force us to spend a lot of money on a war effort...Heck Bush probably told all those banks to give loans to all those people who couldn't afford them too right? Democratic logic is amazing...

All those bands are horrible. My statement stands.

Once again my statement stands..Democratic logic is horrible...

Too bad I'm not a Democrat, huh? The Ramones are punk at its most watered down. Ted Nugent is just white trash. Kiss is just awful on every conceivable level. Stevie Ray Vaughan and his brother are blues taken to its wankiest extreme. Weak. All of it.

Really, I'm not going to say Bush was responsible for the economic downturn. He's not. The whole thing has been brewing since the Clinton administration, and no one could've seen it coming until it was too late, anyway. Also, I think the entire "9/11 truth" thing is incredibly full of crap. I don't think the Republicans are evil. I think they're inept. The past 8 years has been a string of half-baked quick fixes for serious problems being pushed through with no one actually thinking about long term consequences or oversight. I don't honestly feel Barack Obama's going to do any better, and therefore, I don't support him (he's gone along with Bush on a lot of his worst ideas, including the Patriot Act and the FISA amendments, which really don't seem to be that far removed from the sort of paranoia that forced Nixon to resign). But I do think pretty much everyone paying attention has noticed the shit hitting the fan for the past 8 years, and I think anyone paying attention understands that John McCain hasn't really been the "maverick" he likes to think he is.

[DimeSatch]

H_ngm_n wrote:


Probably the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

If this is the most ignorant thing you have ever heard then you must be pretty damn ignorant.

All you liberals do is bitch.

[stevezy]

Obama doesn't need the Foo to play for him, he's got DEVO!

[Seidenschnur]

If only Dave knew that I sodomize goats with 'My Hero' blaring in the background. Seriously, why would McCain even use 'Barracuda'? Does that have anything to do with him? Lame shit, so excuse me while I contemplate railin' Palin!

[GunsnRoses5150]

DimeSatch wrote:


All you liberals do is bitch.

and all you conservatives do is bitch about liberals

[syngates07]

Ron Paul Revolution bithces

[scimitar_255]

The one thing that gets on my nerves is that here, in the UK, our news broadcasters have nothing better to do than report on the US candidates. I'm sure they're getting more publicity here than our last election!

Same here. I live in Canada, and we have an election going on right NOW, and the us one is getting more coverage. And the worst part is: there're newspaper articles about this. it's stupid.

[clincher09]

Musicians who are liberals against republicans? Who would have guessed?!?!?!?!

[Coldiscool]

dan1985smith wrote:

Eddie's'Waitor wrote:

McCain is a twat


Gotta love all the intelectual liberals rolling through here.

Ignorance, your picking the worst example of a liberal and stereotyping to all liberals. both democrats and republicans have pros and cons, hence why we need both to keep each other in check.

Anyway back to THE REAL TOPIC I fell that the Foo Fighters can express that they are disatisfied in that there song is being used to support a presidentional candidate without permission. They obviously wrote the song with different meaning, about how everyday people can be special and heroic, mccain is not the common man, with him being a huge famous presidentional candidate.

[Skittles135]

H_ngm_n wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.

No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.

How do you figure Obama supports terrorists, racist churches, and welfare for deadbeats? You are clearly uneducated and ignorant, and obviously take everything that you're spoonfed from the stupid ad campaigns and email attacks. I sure hope you're not voting.

[darkfire_storm]

davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.

wow, new most ignorant post here, i think. congratulations, i think you may have just brought the entire country down a peg. this is the folly of party politics. we end up turning people of the same nation against themselves. isn't it bad enough we have a war with another country? during every election we end up fighting an internal struggle to determine our next leaders. wouldn't that negative energy from party to party be better directed at doing something positive instead of partaking in useless bickering?

as for the article, i can see why Grohl would be upset that they didn't seek permission first. McCain using the FF's song implies to the everyday person that the Foos must support McCain, or else why would they allow him to use their music? at the same time, he might've taken it a bit far, i doubt anyone but him sees the song as "tarnished".

[pucci6d6]

Matt_1213 wrote:

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

COBHC666 wrote:

People are so f-ing stupid. Is it not obvious that mccain is an idiot?? is it not obvious he chose palin as his running mate solely because she has a snatch??!

Americans are so ****ing stupid and pea-brained now, it makes me ashamed to be born here.

Then leave. Or if Obama is elected just stick around. His economic plan is to boost sales of Rosetta Stone when everybody has to learn Arabic.

First, the Foo foos need to put on their big boy pants and get over it.

Come on.... seriously. What has McCain done that was so stupid? Obama picked a guy that is a documented liar and plagiarizer for his running mate. He has said change a billion times, and never discussed what he would change. He's going to give 95% of Americans tax breaks..... but wait....40% of Americans don't even pay taxes. His economic policy like Clinton's and Carter's before him is piss poor and only useful for raising inflation. His health care proposal is no longer possible since the buy out. Which he voted for, and has now bashed. Can you give one good reason, to vote for Obama, other than the media has told you to hate George Bush, and you ignorantly believe Obama when he attempts to tie McCain to Bush.

What one thing is he going to do that will benefit the country?

Everyone read that and stop crying.

Seconded. Every Democrat government has made a mess of things, but the next generation just keeps going back because they're 'new' and 'fresh' and its 'a change'.

And so history repeats itself...again.

Yes, FDR made a mess of things. He was such a horrible president, I can't believe that he pulled America out of a Depression that a republican.

Now I think that both Obama and McCain will lead the country the same, and neither of them will lead it any good.

Everyone stop whining and using up comment space that's originally supposed to be about the Foo Fighters.

George Washington was right, political parties don't help anything at all.

Everyone just vote for who you agree with and whoever gets elected, gets elected. There's nothing you can do about it, except vote for the person you want. So stop trying to change everyone's opinions, because it's easier convincing a Opeth fan to go to a Fall Out Boy concert than to change someone's political opinions. I come to UG not to hear about politics, if I wanted my opinion changed I would watch the commercials, not listen to someone on the internet. Take it to the Politics thread if you insist on talking about it. Not the comment section of a Music article.

[pucci6d6]

that a Preublican started.*

Sorry for the double post.

[tancanada]

wow, dave. right when i start to like you...

everybody's so liberal now.

[AudioMetaRage]

I don't get americans, almost every republican has caused a decifit in the national treasury and you keep voting for them? Even the living standards which decreased while republicans were in power. Thank god, your liberals policy is considered conservative in my country... Happiest Country in the world btw.

[Gordita Supreme]

devilshalo122 wrote:

liberals

Shut up.

You don't even know what the word liberal means.

[rebreh]

Look they sell this song. That means if you buy it then you can play it. I mean if i made a song i would not go and tell people who can play it or not. And not all republicans are not god fearing. In fact Obama is more religous than McCain which is rare because usually it is the other way around.

I honestly can't be arsed going through the comments any more but STOP DISCUSSING POLITICS. This is an article about foo Fighters and Mcain's use of their song. If you insist on discussing who you think should be american president, you will simply be warned.

*kind of checked*

[estranged_g_n_r]

Eww... the Foo Fighters are such disgusting communists.

[blaqk_fiend]

i agree with dave grohl in this particular sitution.
especially after him explaining what the song is about.
Mcain should be using freeaking dinosaur music hes so old

[Trabo]

Screw mccain, and especially, screw sarah palin.

Dont be so whipped, we all know mccain and palin are the worst combination ever. 2 maveriks who suck at there jobs. Seriously, I doubt Grohl cares if you loose repespecet just because you cant respect there opinions. It is THERE music and when its being used for an advertisement, THEY have the right to choose if they want it or not. Mccain and has bitch vp are WRONG.

Ron paul 08 R.I.P

[blaqk_fiend]

*situation

[nodice182]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

With all due respect to Dave Grohl, STFU! ... John McCain is still a normal civilian just like the rest of us. What makes his use of the music any different from our use of it!?

Are you serious?

If you've ever read the copyright warning at the start of a DVD you'll know that even though you may have purchased the movie, you only have the right to view it in a private arena. No schools, oil rigs, prisons, etc.

Permission from the artist should be recieved before using their songs in a public arena. ESPECIALLY in a situation in which a politician is using their material to further their political ambitions.

Sigh.

[RockUAway]

McCain 08'!

Oh, and Foo Fighters need to get their money hungry heads out of their shit hungry asses.

There, topic discussed.

[RockUAway]

Oh, and how many times does it have to be posted that McCain PURCHASED LICENSES to use the songs. The same goes for heart and every other artist. If they don't want people to use their songs, then they can just take them out of the list. They won't be missed. Hell, they've got 8 million more to take their place.

I bet grohl and his drummer, and metallica are all butt buddies.

Kurt shot himself to get away from that moron I bet.

[hooli94]

Nerdo-sez-bo wrote:

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

haha that's funny!

[xXChimairaXx]

Gordita Supreme wrote:

devilshalo122 wrote:

liberals


Shut up.

You don't even know what the word liberal means.

Hmmm. According to Webster's...

Liberal = a person who thinks they know everything and has been brainwashed by a biased mainstream media and used as a tool to support a inexperienced, smooth-talking, celebrity/noob/politician and make him the next president of the United States.

Does that fit your defintion of a liberal?

[dfresh91]

wow that shows how careless mccain is about using other peoples songs, first, barracuda from heart, now my hero. he doesnt respect artists enough because heis a cocky and entilted person and believes he is entitled to everything because he is a big politician and brainwashed all the mindless republicans

[Striketalonx]

In response to Useful idiot:
I believe that McCain will lead America down a slippery slope of lost national respect. When we can't finish a goal (capturing Osama Bin Ladan) and we waste away $10 billion a month in a war that we finished ("Mission Accomplished" May 1, 2003) and we piss at long time allies, the French, who helped us found this wonderful country of ours.

Some people say that Obama is soft on terrorists, but who wants to focus all our troops in the hunt for Bin Laden? (Here's a hint: its not McCain)

McCain's budget will continue the voodoo economics of Bush and the republican party, cutting taxes for the ultra-rich (which is why the republicans are known as the wealthy party, since many of the ultra-wealthy business men who shovel all their money into offshore banks so they can dig through loop-holes and avoid being taxed what they deserve to be taxed to keep this wonderful country running the way it is supposed to are republicans) and digging the whole for the middle class even deeper by taxing health care benefits and trying to cover it up by giving a "tax refund" of $5000 and saying that'll take care of your health plan.

Off of NCHC.org: In 2007, employer health insurance premiums increased by 6.1 percent - two times the rate of inflation. The annual premium for an employer health plan covering a family of four averaged nearly $12,100.

Explain how $5000 can cover a $12,100 bill (and thats only the average) when you add taxing that health care, and rising prices (and on top of that, deregulating the insurance companies, by allowing them to choose a state with the least amount of restrictions raping the average joe across state-lines)

Barack Obama's goal is to raise the taxation on the ultra-rich to where it was during Clinton's term (reminder: we had a surplus back then) and to close the loop-holes that are wearing down "Joe Six-pack" by stealing money from America.

Now you claim Barack Obama is affiliated with Terrorists, or he is Muslim. Here's news for you: Barack was on the same board of advisers as Mr Ayers, but Mr Ayers is now a professor in Chicago, and the Weatherman was a radical group in 60's.. a time when Obama was 8 years old. Now if a guy who, in a time of extreme anti-war protests (which happen to be when you are under 10 years old), cleans up, and makes something of himself in a normal fashion, is on the PTA with you some years later does that make you a terrorist sympathizer? No.

I will admit, many of the liberal posts here weren't too hot, but the conservatives simply can't tell a good thing from a bad.

Case in point? Useful Idiot: Car bras are hideous. ;D

[sprkidjar]

Black Hole Sun wrote:

Also, typical conversation here is:
Liberal: McCain sucks, Obama rules.
Conservative: You're a tool. You haven't given any reasons. Obama sucks, McCain rules.

thats true. the conservatives in this conversation havent given any reason as to why obama is supposedly bad and mcccain is good, and instead their only argument is that the liberals havent given any reasons.

[sprkidjar]

xXChimairaXx wrote:

Hmmm. According to Webster's...

Liberal = a person who thinks they know everything and has been brainwashed by a biased mainstream media and used as a tool to support a inexperienced, smooth-talking, celebrity/noob/politician and make him the next president of the United States.

Does that fit your defintion of a liberal?

if you're gonna use stupid generalizations like that,
you can also say that the definition of a conservative is a thickheaded person who was brainwashed by their uptight redneck parents who refuse to acknowledge anything other than what they believe

[badass4hire]

This doesn't have anything to do with politics. He just didn't ask b4 using the song. i think some people think too much.
better dead than red lol

[GoWithTheFlow]

crue29_2008 wrote:

I try to avoid politics, because for the record I think they all kinda suck. But in the defense of McCain, how is he not a common man doing extraordinary things? As someone who's best friend is in the military, I have a new respect for anybody who serves in the military. The shit McCain went through certainly qualifies him as an extraordinary person. He was a POW for years, and was tortured and shit. When he was given the chance for release because of his family connections before the rest of his POW companions, he chose to stay and wait for an honorable release. Thats ****in Honor right there, I don't care who you are.

Thats not the point, he shouldn't be using music for his campaign that I'm sure he doesn't understand first of all, second that he didn't ask permission. But on the Foo's part, its a bit harsh to say he's tarnishing the song. As a person (not necessarily as a politician) McCain is an extraordinary person. How can anyone deny that?

hes got some honour and guts. but i dont want an old tortured army vet running the u.s. if you think about it if you said i was put in a cage for a couple years in your resume i dont think that will help you get the job.

[The_Authentic_1]

Tulkas wrote:

The_Authentic_1 wrote:
To me it comes down to the fact that McCain is far too old to be president and they hide his medical records and to be honest the guy is a bit of an old coot. He would more then likely pass away sometime during his term and hey at least I'm a realist and the last person I want running the country is the ditzy moronic Palin.

As for the Foo Fighters and the whole song debacle, it’s their song they can do what they please with it. If they don't want it tied to McCain then they should have the right to make them stop using it. Copyright laws are in place for a reason are you telling me its ok for McCain to publically break the law? If someone was using my material in a national spotlight under contexts in which I don't agree with I'd be just as upset.


That's one of the most ignorant methods of voting for president I have ever heard.

Also, get your facts straight, virtually all songs that can be played over radio, can be played publicly at venues so long as the party playing them has obtained an FCC license to do so.

Ignorance such as that and the ignorance of thinking voting McCain is voting for 4 more years of Bush will end up getting Obama elected.

Ignorance mind you, not the critical thought, logical deduction, and discussion of issues and solutions to the country's problems.

http://tinyurl.com/truthblog

Maybe you should remove your head from your ass.

A copyright:
It is a form of intellectual property law. It protects an author or creator from his or her stuff being pirated and used without permission.

There is such a thing as copyright infringment any piece of published material is copyrighted and or trademarked for logos and it requires permission from the author. Any moron with half a brain would know that so please get educated.

As for me voting for Obama its not only because McCain is old that was just an observation for people to think about. I have my reasons but refuse to get too into that seeing as how this is about the Foo Fighters and McCain not the election.

[Wesseem]

They don't care about the song being used. they care about who's using the song. Clearly they support the democrats and the fact that McCain, a republican, used it just pissed them off. It didn't help that McCain did not ask permission either.

Anyways when i think of mccain i just picture him attempting to smile to the crowd as he rapidly blinks. Either he's retarded and can't smile without looking stupid, or it's a very insincere smile.

[dinley]

Nerdo-sez-bo wrote:

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

XD +1

[johnyfacemelter]

the foofighters suck

[Jazzmandtk]

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

+1 I'm so sick of politics

[YetAnotherMuso]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

It could be fun actually if Barry the socialist toilet log wins. Imagine all the fun we will have learning foreign languages, kissing Islams ass and paying out of our paychecks for deadbeats who won't work along with their 12 children black families.


YO YO YO YO YO YO YO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION Y'ALL!

This is why I want Obama to win, because I would desperately like to think that America is not filled with ignorant and prejudiced f*ckstains like this. Sorry for discussing politics but I felt I just had to say that coz I found that comment so distastefully racist...

anyway on topic, yeah I kinda agree with Grohl, that song sooo does not fit with McCain.

[Nirvana6722]

Well, Dave they can pretty much play anything they want unless they are earning money for it. So if you don't like it sue them, see what you can get.

[MinstrelCycle85]

Does anyone honestly expect any better from John McCain? he gloats about being a war hero, when in reality he just crashed tons and tons of fighter jets, wasting taxpayer dollars in the process, and completely no substantial missions, and killing no enemy fighter jets. His whole life is a story of nothing but wasting taxpayer dollars, creating false images for himself, and failing miserably at everything he touches.

checked

Keep political talk to an minimum please.

[B@ssM@st@]

Thank you Nirvana6722, seriously theyre like crying about it... honestly they should take it as a compliment that theyre using their song for a presidential theme song... and MinstrelCycle85 whats wrong with you.... honestly bro uv got some problems

[41plus182]

God, as much as I love the Foo Fighter's music, this is just completely stupid. This would only be an actual issue if McCain was making a profit for playing their music. Cut the crap and quit bitching just because someone you don't like used your song. They DON'T reserve the right to decide who plays their songs, unless its for money. This is no different from say some kid playing the song from a stereo outside in their neighborhood, except the whole neighborhood is there because they simply like that kid, but the Foos hate that kid. And its also not like people are showing up to his rallies to hear that song. The Foos have no legal point here, and I understand thay they support the democratic party, but seriously, the just need leave it alone.

I don't care how much I get flamed for saying any of this so flame on.....

[joekellington]

I think the reason the FF's don't want people to use their song, is the fact that a song in a side of a debate would give the impression that you are for or against one side. IE, people would think the FF are for McCain. It doesn't matter whether they are or not, they ARE in a business, and that is their property. A place like McDonalds wouldn'y put up Obama or McCain ads because they would risk losing customers. The Foo Fighters have the right to not want to be associated with McCain.

It's their work and they deserve to use it how they want.

[DamoPlaysBass]

Nerdo-sez-bo wrote:

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

When I think of John McCain, I think of death.

[//bruce]

idk wtf they're so pissed about.
he did say "hey this a foo fighters song and they love me."

[DamoPlaysBass]

41plus182 wrote:

God, as much as I love the Foo Fighter's music, this is just completely stupid. This would only be an actual issue if McCain was making a profit for playing their music. Cut the crap and quit bitching just because someone you don't like used your song. They DON'T reserve the right to decide who plays their songs, unless its for money. This is no different from say some kid playing the song from a stereo outside in their neighborhood, except the whole neighborhood is there because they simply like that kid, but the Foos hate that kid. And its also not like people are showing up to his rallies to hear that song. The Foos have no legal point here, and I understand thay they support the democratic party, but seriously, the just need leave it alone.

I don't care how much I get flamed for saying any of this so flame on.....

Oh no, it's not for money, it's for the Presidency of the United States of America. Douche.

[HeavyDT]

hmm well i dont give a dam if john mccain served in the military and is a great person and all that. It dosent mean that hes instantly qualified to be president and they have a point your supposed to ask first. I disagree with his views on some of the more major issues and i completely lost any interest in him when he picked palin. Shes a complete gimmick designed to get him last minute voters. It makes me sick to see that because theres at McCains age something might happen to him then we have dum dum palin running the country. Its like a game to him. Someone above said its like a kid in the neighborhood playing his boombox but its not. Since the FF have come out and disproved of it he should really stop.

[41plus182]

joekellington wrote:

I think the reason the FF's don't want people to use their song, is the fact that a song in a side of a debate would give the impression that you are for or against one side. IE, people would think the FF are for McCain. It doesn't matter whether they are or not, they ARE in a business, and that is their property. A place like McDonalds wouldn'y put up Obama or McCain ads because they would risk losing customers. The Foo Fighters have the right to not want to be associated with McCain.

It's their work and they deserve to use it how they want.

But that's the thing. They reserve the right do not WANT to be associated with McCain, but they don't acutally reserve the right to not let him use their music, unless McCain was using their music for a profit, which he's not. I love you Foos, but grow a sack.My previous post explains more.

[Danejerez]

41plus182 wrote:

God, as much as I love the Foo Fighter's music, this is just completely stupid. This would only be an actual issue if McCain was making a profit for playing their music. Cut the crap and quit bitching just because someone you don't like used your song. They DON'T reserve the right to decide who plays their songs, unless its for money. This is no different from say some kid playing the song from a stereo outside in their neighborhood, except the whole neighborhood is there because they simply like that kid, but the Foos hate that kid. And its also not like people are showing up to his rallies to hear that song. The Foos have no legal point here, and I understand thay they support the democratic party, but seriously, the just need leave it alone.

I don't care how much I get flamed for saying any of this so flame on.....

He may not be using the song for money, but he is using it for a political campaign. Like many people before have said, it's wrongfully associating the FF with something which they don't necessarily agree with.

I think of it more like the equivalent of slapping Grohl's face on mccain posters without his permission. It's just not something that you do.

And don't pretend like its just The FF whining about this, Mccain has done this 3 times now, with similar reactions each time.

You think he'd figure it out already...

[delerious186]

its really funny that mccain is the only person getting attacked for something so trivial its not like he's making money off of that crappy song by that crappy band if it wasn't mccain then there wouldn't be an issue and oh if you want to put the devil in the office of the president of the united states then go ahead elect OBAMA he's not against homosexuality or abortion which means he values privilege over responsibility

[Msu_Man04]

41plus182 wrote:

joekellington wrote:

I think the reason the FF's don't want people to use their song, is the fact that a song in a side of a debate would give the impression that you are for or against one side. IE, people would think the FF are for McCain. It doesn't matter whether they are or not, they ARE in a business, and that is their property. A place like McDonalds wouldn'y put up Obama or McCain ads because they would risk losing customers. The Foo Fighters have the right to not want to be associated with McCain.

It's their work and they deserve to use it how they want.

But that's the thing. They reserve the right do not WANT to be associated with McCain, but they don't acutally reserve the right to not let him use their music, unless McCain was using their music for a profit, which he's not. I love you Foos, but grow a sack.My previous post explains more.

Becoming the U.S. President is definitely NOT a profit.

[41plus182]

DamoPlaysBass wrote:

41plus182 wrote:

God, as much as I love the Foo Fighter's music, this is just completely stupid. This would only be an actual issue if McCain was making a profit for playing their music. Cut the crap and quit bitching just because someone you don't like used your song. They DON'T reserve the right to decide who plays their songs, unless its for money. This is no different from say some kid playing the song from a stereo outside in their neighborhood, except the whole neighborhood is there because they simply like that kid, but the Foos hate that kid. And its also not like people are showing up to his rallies to hear that song. The Foos have no legal point here, and I understand thay they support the democratic party, but seriously, the just need leave it alone.

I don't care how much I get flamed for saying any of this so flame on.....


Oh no, it's not for money, it's for the Presidency of the United States of America. Douche.

Im not saying money is more important than becoming president, im saying that from a legal standpoint, McCain can't get into any trouble unless he was actually making a profit from their songs. Using this song isn't going to decide the next president of the United States anyway, which is why the Dave needs to grow a sack. PS sry for triple post.

[gometal12]

Listen. It isn't because they think he's advertising, making money, or any selfish shit like that. If you had made a great song, and given a certain message for it, then if someone started parading it around and you didn't even support the political views, id be pissed off too. It isn't cause of money, or fame, they simply have a right to be angry in this situation whether or not they actually have a legal foothold in the case (which they don't). If someone ran around saying that you supported something that you hated and or disagreed with highly, then you's probably want to strangle them just out of that person's disrespect for you. With music written by your band, that represents who you are, if someone did something like that to me, I'd flip a good old fashioned shit.

[courtkid1012]

They should be honored. All they're doing is trying to make a big thing out of it and get more votes for Obama who doesn't deserve to be president.

[a7xf@n43v3r]

hah. way to get politcal, foos.

I like the music but for the love of god don't look for something to bitch about.

[a7xf@n43v3r]

actually, gometal is right. forget what I just said.

[gometal12]

In addtion, what 41plus said is somewhat true, but they have a right to get angry, but not try to convict him. And no, they don't decide who plays their songs, but once again, they have a right to get mad as hell. It's that they wish he would of had more respect for the arts like sooner comments said. Read about the Foos. They don't go for fame and fortune they do what they love. Not to mention a strong sense of justice like theirs would cause anyone to be a little miffed.

[gringo4573]

41plus182 wrote:

God, as much as I love the Foo Fighter's music, this is just completely stupid. This would only be an actual issue if McCain was making a profit for playing their music. Cut the crap and quit bitching just because someone you don't like used your song. They DON'T reserve the right to decide who plays their songs, unless its for money. This is no different from say some kid playing the song from a stereo outside in their neighborhood, except the whole neighborhood is there because they simply like that kid, but the Foos hate that kid. And its also not like people are showing up to his rallies to hear that song. The Foos have no legal point here, and I understand thay they support the democratic party, but seriously, the just need leave it alone.

I don't care how much I get flamed for saying any of this so flame on.....

wow thats EXACTLY what i was gonna write. cmon, if they didnt want certain ppl using their song, they shouldnt have recorded it and sold it 2 the public. once they do that they have GIVEN that song to the public and it is no longer up to them what is done with it. BUT to get around that they may copyright the song so other ppl cant make money off of it, only them. hey if i was filthy rich, i wouldnt want anybody else 2 have a chance at making a profit-id want it all for myself, wouldnt u?...i hope not. thats what all these bands r doing nowadays. Foo fighters can bitch and moan but they couldve stopped this from happening if they just didnt release the song 2 the public, that way they would have complete control over who uses it or not...but then they wouldnt be able 2 make money off of it.

and to anywone who has a problem with mccain using this song w/out permission-if u illegally download songs from places like limewire, ur getting artists' music without their permission.hyppocrit.

[41plus182]

gometal12 wrote:

Listen. It isn't because they think he's advertising, making money, or any selfish shit like that. If you had made a great song, and given a certain message for it, then if someone started parading it around and you didn't even support the political views, id be pissed off too. It isn't cause of money, or fame, they simply have a right to be angry in this situation whether or not they actually have a legal foothold in the case (which they don't). If someone ran around saying that you supported something that you hated and or disagreed with highly, then you's probably want to strangle them just out of that person's disrespect for you. With music written by your band, that represents who you are, if someone did something like that to me, I'd flip a good old fashioned shit.

Yea just gotta say I still stand firmly with what i said speaking from a legal standpoint. Although from the artist's standpoint like yours, I completely understand. Being angry over being associated with someone they dont agree is understandable, and though they dont reserve the right to actually control who uses that song, and like playing this song is actually going to affect the presidential race at all, they do reserve the right to be mad. Forget what I said about Dave growing a sack. BTW thx for actually writing a comment that acually meant something, unlike most of the ppl here. It seems like ppl with brains are definitely the minority on UG....

[Koelker12]

you go foo fighters, take it to him

[Wetherman]

put it this way, if Wagner was alive at the time would he appreciate Hitler's use of his music to promote the Nazi Party and the Hitler youth? It wasn't simply using the music as background, the structure and crescendos served as the basis of how he'd address his audiences, and managed to impress/persuade a great many people. On a vastly commercial level, and with something as important and controversial as an election, you shouldn't use somebody's song to suit the context without seeking permission. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron. It's pretty serious business.

[i0milesniper]

ok, so i really like the foo fighters and their music, but jesus, everyone needs to settle down about this...and its better if McCain used it for what he did for our country and what he's been through instead of Obama who hasn't done shit for us and disrespects our country....and 3 words for Obama - Black Liberation Theology...that will take over our counrty if Obama becomes president...and to the Australian guy...get your facts straight before you talk shit about a very honorable man...you have no idea what he went through for us. we dont need Obama in office unless we want a Marxist, Racist, quasi-christian, antisemetic government...DONT VOTE OBAMA

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=203 6

[Flying Afros]

davedoom wrote:

He should just use music by Christian artists since the Republicans are such inverted god-fearing hill people.

I was thinking the theme song from Deliverance. The banjo song...McCain probably can't hear anyway.

[fieryfenderz]

i dont understand you guys. He's just using a well known song during a campaign. It's not trying to show disrespect. If he didnt respect the arts at all, he would play no music at all.

[gometal12]

Firey the fact that the article on the Foos is even on here means its a bigger deal. But true he was kind of ignorant, but when your running for president, you need to show respect for culture of all types even though we're only human its understandable why the foos would be pissy.

[gometal12]

Oh and NP at all mr. 41

[metallik1013]

I hardly think any presidential candidate spends a lot of time worrying about their intro music like a f***ing professional wrestler. Someone behind the scenes is screwing up and they're using the opportunity to take a shot at a political figure they oppose. Who's manipulating a situation now?

[ElThomas]

JesusOfSbrbia wrote:

Hasn't someone else used that song without their permission for a campaign?

I read that the whole reason they started campaigning for Kerry was because the 2004 Bush campaign used one of their songs without permission, and although they hadn't really touched politics until then, they didn't want to be misconstrued as Bush supporters.

Pretty sure I read that on Wikipedia a while ago...

Do not believe wikipedia. But i could see it

[DevoidElite]

Ha, I was gonna go on about all you people, what sides you take, etc.
But after reading all this, I can't be assed..

I'll just stick on the article's subject.
Now there's two sides of reaction to this, you've got:
i) The people who tell Dave to "grow a pair" (or something to that effect) mainly because he's got no legal ground to stand on about being mad/annoyed/what-have-you about the use of his song..
and
ii) The true musicians that agree with Dave because they believe in his ideals and they understand that they wouldn't want someone using their songs without permission.

It's mainly legal stance vs. morals.

But this being a GUITAR website, I'd agree with the latter.
I'm not gonna hate McCain for using it. But then again, I live in Australia. So yeah.
The campaign COULD have asked, to just be at least a little bit reasonable.

[Table Salt]

i0milesniper wrote:

ok, so i really like the foo fighters and their music, but jesus, everyone needs to settle down about this...and its better if McCain used it for what he did for our country and what he's been through instead of Obama who hasn't done shit for us and disrespects our country....and 3 words for Obama - Black Liberation Theology...that will take over our counrty if Obama becomes president...and to the Australian guy...get your facts straight before you talk shit about a very honorable man...you have no idea what he went through for us. we dont need Obama in office unless we want a Marxist, Racist, quasi-christian, antisemetic government...DONT VOTE OBAMA

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=203 6

What fact do you have backing up Obama will bring all of this?

And please, remember that there is a strong difference between FACT and OPINION that most people seem to ignore and defy when cementing their feet into beliefs.

[derekmichael]

wouldnt you know... another discussion about politics on a guitar website

most artists are pretty lenient about people using their music. however, dave obviously does not want his music to be associated with politics, and thats the way it should be. music is music, politics is politics, so just let it be. and i really dont see why dumbass mccain would want to use that song for his campaign, because like dave said, the meaning of the song pretty much contradicts what he is using it for. so i totally support his decision and quit making dave seem like a total *******

Checked!

[Dumpster510]

you know that if obama used it w/o permission they wouldn't have a problem...it wouldn't even be an issue. the people here saying it has 0 to do with politics are out of their mind.

[BiZzAr0]

i0milesniper wrote:

ok, so i really like the foo fighters and their music, but jesus, everyone needs to settle down about this...and its better if McCain used it for what he did for our country and what he's been through instead of Obama who hasn't done shit for us and disrespects our country....and 3 words for Obama - Black Liberation Theology...that will take over our counrty if Obama becomes president...and to the Australian guy...get your facts straight before you talk shit about a very honorable man...you have no idea what he went through for us. we dont need Obama in office unless we want a Marxist, Racist, quasi-christian, antisemetic government...DONT VOTE OBAMA

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=203 6

Careful buddy, don't drop your tinfoil hat!

[arcanus trexor]

god, people are ****ing insane. so mccain had a foo fighters song playing? so the **** what? how does that in any way say anything about him not respecting music. i really don't see how listening to music or really using it in any way can be a sign of disrespect towards the art or the artist. art is about the subjective interpretation of it from the perspective of anyone who may glance upon it, the artist's opinion does not override everyone else's. i was already going to vote for obama, but i just lost a lot of respect for the foo fighters. disturbing how many people posting on a site about art are pro-censorship, even the mods...

[evilninja6669]

I find it very disturbing that something like the use of a song is cousing so much anger for the wrong reason. if the foo fighters are really that pissed over a song they made for everyone too hear then they are simply corporate posers like most musicians these days. it makes me sad too see that...to see even van halen like that... ****ing gay. i like the music but im losing the respect i had and i hope that ppl can see and understand that the use of a song is not a big deal and if u make it one then u don't see the bigger picture and ur simply a mindless individual when it come to music.

[arcanus trexor]

Mattalac wrote:

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

You don't understand much do you. Not an artist are you. Well shut it then.

...and you brought nothing in terms of a rational argument to the table.

[momowagon]

The Mccain campaign did pay for the rights to play the song.

The McCain-Palin campaign told Politico that in 2007 it purchased both ASCAP and BMI licenses that cover the use of tunes for all public events. Campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said, “Our campaign respects copyrights and obtains licenses whenever the law requires, and any suggestion otherwise is flat wrong.”

Dave Grohl knows this better than anyone. This whole thing is just a media stunt to get his fans to dislike Mccain.

[arcanus trexor]

momowagon wrote:

The Mccain campaign did pay for the rights to play the song. The McCain-Palin campaign told Politico that in 2007 it purchased both ASCAP and BMI licenses that cover the use of tunes for all public events. Campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said, “Our campaign respects copyrights and obtains licenses whenever the law requires, and any suggestion otherwise is flat wrong.”
Dave Grohl knows this better than anyone. This whole thing is just a media stunt to get his fans to dislike Mccain.

there you go... disgusting.

[littleleo88]

christ. politics is really a sore point between you guys isnt it. just chill guys, you're not going to convince anyone to swap sides through this arguement.

[XAkitAX]

People swear like McCain personally chose the music..

[Shred Penguin]

Neither the Foo Fighter’s or John McCain did anything wrong in this particular issue. John McCain would’ve had no involvement in picking the song to be played at his rallies, someone working for his campaign would’ve been told to go through and “find a song that will make John McCain look good.” So he ended up with “My Hero”. And those people putting the song up hadn’t spent the time to get permission from Foo Fighters because it wasn’t a legal necessity. Does that mean that John McCain doesn’t support the arts? Not at all. Secondly, people say that Dave Grohl is in the wrong for challenging the decision, when all he has actually done was make a statement expressing his upset that he wasn’t given the courtesy of a phone call to ask for permission, a statement that features in newspapers/magazines/internet sites. If people actually respected freedom of speech then he would have every right to say his opinion and issue with the song being played, and even the right to express his own personal political opinion. That’s like saying a band like Rage Against the Machine aren’t allowed to write songs expressing their political opinion because it may influence people’s own opinions.

In terms of the rampant political debate that ensued after this article was posted. Points go to the few people who actually researched and presented some intelligent comments to make, on both the Republican and the Democrat side. Points also go to insightful comments like this:

“Necrosaber :
It's just funny seeing most of you. All you guys do is stereotype each other.

If you're pro Obama, you MUST be an MTV watching brainwashed teenager who's just voting for whatever is popular.

If you're pro McCain, you MUST be a money hungry Christian who's probably just voting for him because it's AGAINST what's "in".

For the most part, all I see are people spewing ad campaigns that they just take as truth and covers their eyes and ears to everything else.

How about we all just sit down and look at the damn issues instead of just trying to defend your "team".”

I urge everyone who wants to support their country to never trust the media and find everything out that you can about the candidates, their policies, their history, how them being president will affect you and the ideas you care about. So the vote you make counts for something.
Disrespect goes to the people who made comments like these:

“Oh if you want to put the devil in the office of the president of the united states then go ahead elect OBAMA he's not against homosexuality or abortion which means he values privilege over responsibility”

What the hell has someone accepting the diverse sexual preferences of every person alive in the world have to do with how good a president they will be? Except that it means they will be supporting every single American citizen instead of just the heterosexual population. Stop discriminating and start paying attention to real issues.

“Democrats need to be rounded up into camps, everytime i see some liberal bullshit on T.V. or radio spreading propaganda bullshit, i just want to rape and murder about 30 of 'em and send there bodies to Ted Nugent as a thank you gift...”

How can you ever hope to prove your point when you say such an insanely insensitive and downright disturbing statement such as this? Rape and murder are not topics of humour. And just for your information. All political parties, in every nation, in every election, spread propaganda through the media. And most media corporations and “news” stations spread propaganda and lies however they see fit. If you don’t like it, do something about it and pressure T.V. or Radio stations to stop being one sided and corrupt.

“You are ****ing ignorant. Are you a nigger”

THIS is one of the most disgusting, ignorant and racist comments I’ve ever seen in my life.

To conclude, all of you have spent your time attacking Obama and McCain when the reality is that either of them would likely make a hundred times the better president than you people could be. If you disagree with it, then run for president and make the country and the world a better place. Or lobby those in power to make changes to society so it IS the way you want it. Or just vote the way you want to and stop complaining that people are voting for the other side, that’s how democracy works. Instead of just sitting on your arse and complaining about what people in power are doing.

[Restlesscow]

Another cheap distraction from an American political party. Cant think of anythng substantial to say, so they just Bull***t their way through.
Also they used this song for a CAMPAIGN without permission. Thats a bit different to just listening to it with a few mates to all those who said "Its released to the public".
Im with the FF's on this one all the way

[JE[F]F]

McCain is a brand of frozen veggies in Australian
^_^

[bambamm89]

The_Trooper14 wrote:

It's a song for Christ sakes, it's not like he's claiming that he wrote it, and if it was really about "art" and "free expression" than Grohl wouldn't care, he's just mad becuase he's not getting paid for the songs use, what a tool

It's got nothing to do with getting paid, it's about respecting another person's arts. I highly doubt that the Foo Fighters want more money, and besides I doubt someone playing a song over a campaign would bring thim that much more. As rich as they are I highly doubt he'd complain about chump change in his pockets.

[git-airman]

Nerdo-sez-bo wrote:

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.


When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

well done, but what about the cold tomato soup and shouting in his sleep?

[Metallidethium]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.


No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.


I couldnt agree more!

[Black Hole Sun]

Tulkas wrote:

Black Hole Sun wrote:

If I, someone who's fairly liberal, wrote a song, and Obama used it without permission I'd be pissed off. I'd probably grant permission if he asked, but I'd expect him to be courteous about it. But someone who's politically opposite from me, I'd be so angry.
Tulkas wrote:
Then leave. Or if Obama is elected just stick around. His economic plan is to boost sales of Rosetta Stone when everybody has to learn Arabic. Racism doesn't make you cool.

What on earth is racist about what I said? You don't think that with Obama in the White House that Iran et. al. won't test him out with defiance of sanctions & bullying on foreign relations?

They'll be itching for Jihad! I know you Obamaist have been wanting to play the race card, but that is just an illustration of your ignorance.

I notice that while you didn't like what I said, and wanted to attack me for being a racist, despite no racist comment you....it must be a liberal thing.....failed to answer my question as to what one positive he would bring to the presidency.

Don't let us get off topic onto things like issues.

Saying we'll be learning Arabic because either he has some vague link to Islam in his past is pretty racist. Notice I wasn't getting into a political debate, I was calling you a racist.

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

Black Hole Sun wrote:

There are so many people here who chose a political party because of everyone else. There's the "Let's be a rebel, let's be liberal," people, and then there's the "everyone else is liberal, I can't go with the crowd, let's be conservative." I know there are people who actually have made an educated choice, but the majority haven't.

Also, typical conversation here is:
Liberal: McCain sucks, Obama rules.
Conservative: You're a tool. You haven't given any reasons. Obama sucks, McCain rules.
I've only seen educated responses from the Republicans, except one which I didn't like at all, no one should talk about rape like a joke. Can't say the same for the Dems.

That's most likely because you're not looking for educated responses from Democrats. Everyone's biased, as much as we hate to admit it.

[lt22]

wow... that's incredibly lame. No matter if it was a democrat or a republican they should ask permission first! and the foo fighters are one of my favorite bands too! just another reason (at least for me) not to like mccain...

[Virtuoosi]

momowagon wrote:

The Mccain campaign did pay for the rights to play the song. The McCain-Palin campaign told Politico that in 2007 it purchased both ASCAP and BMI licenses that cover the use of tunes for all public events. Campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said, “Our campaign respects copyrights and obtains licenses whenever the law requires, and any suggestion otherwise is flat wrong.”
Dave Grohl knows this better than anyone. This whole thing is just a media stunt to get his fans to dislike Mccain.

Theres only one flaw in your logic. Everyone already dislikes John Mccain.

[sidewinder2132]

How many things can John McCain do wrong? Seriously, he has made almost an unprecedented number of mistakes during his campaign. I'm not being biased or anything, just truthful.

Checked.

[Mahoru]

Randy Bobandy wrote:

Mahoru wrote:

Stratogibson wrote:

Don't let Republicans play with our government. That could be dangerous.


Completely agree. It's actually funny how Scott O attacked me... maybe it's because he knew I was right and he had no reasons to back a counter attack?



Wow, just when i though this thread couldn't get any more retarded....

Republicans = small goverment, big buisness, more jobs.

Democrats = big goverment, which means more control over peoples lives and bigger taxes to fund bullshit welfare programs...

Take your pick.

Hope that clears everything up for the MTV kidzs who got educated of Sponge Bob and cereal boxes.

Wow, I didn't think I could find a dumbest answer!
If you think governments are like that you have to get out of your shell.

BTW, your commnent didn't make any sense for me. I've never watched the MTV so STFU

I'm liberal 'cause I've always been and I don't agree with any of the conservative policies, not because now it's popular

[mr staind]

CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT POLITICS AND DISCUSS THE HIATUS!!!! OF FOO FIGHTERS!!!!
MCCAIN AND OBAMA WHO CARES WHO OF THEM WILL BE ELECTED;BOTH OF THEM WILL DO WARS AND TRY TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE (FOR THEM AND NOT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA)POLITICIANS ARE SHITS!!!

[TheBeatlesR0X]

Nerdo-sez-bo wrote:

ready2breakdown wrote:

I couldn't even imagine how he could have used a hard rock song in a campaign ad any way...

Frank Sinatra is who I think of when I think of John McCain.

When I think of John McCain, I think of alzheimers and care homes.

aw that is hilarious

[damskippy]

Wayward Sean wrote:

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but if McCain doesn't respect music enough to ask permission, doesn't that sort of signal that he doesn't respect the arts. The government has been pushing to take the arts out of school, and if he doesn't respect them, that could be the end to the arts (including music) in public schools altogether.

Yeah, they've got to find time in the day to teach important things like "Heather Has Two Mommies". Seriously where are you from and what the hell are you talking about?

I don't care for the Foo Fighters politics, but I gotta agree with them on this one.Musicians have always been walked all over by everyone from the recording industry to music theiving computer geeks that don't feel they should have to pay for the artist's hard work.Some of us actually make a living making music, if you want to give your work away that's one thing, but it happens to be part of my livelihood.Obama sux!

[JBT09]

The world supports Obama.

[damskippy]

JBT09 wrote:

The world supports Obama.

So does Al-Qeada, the leaders of Iran,and the Taliban.Good thing the world doesn't get to vote!

[cobalt]

According to the polls: 12% of the country believes Obama practices Islam.... which means 12% of the country is too dumb to conduct a simple google search to find the truth.

Seriously, Hillary spent weeks digging up dirt on the crazy views of Obama's former CHRISTIAN minister... and now he's a secret Muslim? Idiots.

[cobalt]

damskippy wrote:

JBT09 wrote:

The world supports Obama. So does Al-Qeada, the leaders of Iran,and the Taliban.Good thing the world doesn't get to vote!

Really, support your claims or don't make them; its like a high school essay.

[stueey]

Matt_1213 wrote:

Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

Tulkas wrote:

COBHC666 wrote:

People are so f-ing stupid. Is it not obvious that mccain is an idiot?? is it not obvious he chose palin as his running mate solely because she has a snatch??!

Americans are so ****ing stupid and pea-brained now, it makes me ashamed to be born here.

Then leave. Or if Obama is elected just stick around. His economic plan is to boost sales of Rosetta Stone when everybody has to learn Arabic.

First, the Foo foos need to put on their big boy pants and get over it.

Come on.... seriously. What has McCain done that was so stupid? Obama picked a guy that is a documented liar and plagiarizer for his running mate. He has said change a billion times, and never discussed what he would change. He's going to give 95% of Americans tax breaks..... but wait....40% of Americans don't even pay taxes. His economic policy like Clinton's and Carter's before him is piss poor and only useful for raising inflation. His health care proposal is no longer possible since the buy out. Which he voted for, and has now bashed. Can you give one good reason, to vote for Obama, other than the media has told you to hate George Bush, and you ignorantly believe Obama when he attempts to tie McCain to Bush.

What one thing is he going to do that will benefit the country?

Everyone read that and stop crying.

Seconded. Every Democrat government has made a mess of things, but the next generation just keeps going back because they're 'new' and 'fresh' and its 'a change'.

And so history repeats itself...again.

I'm glad I live in the UK because i don't have to deal with the BS Americans have to. Well, they don't deal with it, alot of you guys just let it happen. But more to the point. If Dave didn't want his song played by McCain, then the song should not have been played.

[damskippy]

cobalt wrote:

damskippy wrote:

JBT09 wrote:

The world supports Obama. So does Al-Qeada, the leaders of Iran,and the Taliban.Good thing the world doesn't get to vote!


Really, support your claims or don't make them; its like a high school essay.

MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD would love to have Barry legitimize his oppresive regime by sitting down and "talking", as Barry says he will do.I never said he was a muslim and I dont believe that, besides what's wrong with muslims?And let's face it, Osama's boy's would love the cut and run strategy Barry advocates, less of them getting killed, what's not to support!If you are running yor life by what polls say you are not thinking for yourself.Vote for who you want to dude, that's what I'm gonna do, Foo Fighters be damned.

[BriGuy7727]

crue29_2008 wrote:
But in the defense of McCain, how is he not a common man doing extraordinary things?

Someone with 12 cars & 8 houses is NOT a common man. He is admirable because he was a POW. However, when he got home after his then wife nursed him back to health, he cheated on her w/a beer heiress. That's NOT admirable. When your wife rocks $300K dresses to a political ralley, you are NOT a common man. Period.

[restless_thrash]

I just dont have the time to read that wall of text comments, but does anyone else think that it's not McCain that chooses the music? I think it'd be in the area of the campaign advertisers.

[Jastul]

you know, for a guys that claims to be really interested in copyright protection he really doesn't seem to give a sh!t about whether musicians have such rights violated, I guess it doesn't matter to him because, as we all know, rock and roll music is the devil, and a good christian doesn't need the devil's permission

[Tulkas]

Black Hole Sun wrote:


Saying we'll be learning Arabic because either he has some vague link to Islam in his past is pretty racist. Notice I wasn't getting into a political debate, I was calling you a racist.
Useful_Idiot16 wrote:

This just screams of you're on ignorance..... it had nothing to do with his race. It has to do with his foreign policy abilities. Because he is of Arabic decent, to suggest that he would want to change the linguistic landscape of the country is stupid! Obama doesn't even speak Arabic.

I made a tongue in cheek remark about the middle east lead by Iran becoming more unstable as a result of Obama/Democratic foreign policy, yet you make a logical leap Superman wouldn't attempt in order to link it to racism. Be ignorant, vote Obama. Don't have a reason for your beliefs or convictions!

[Tulkas]

The_Authentic_1 wrote:

Maybe you should remove your head from your ass.

A copyright:
It is a form of intellectual property law. It protects an author or creator from his or her stuff being pirated and used without permission.

There is such a thing as copyright infringment any piece of published material is copyrighted and or trademarked for logos and it requires permission from the author. Any moron with half a brain would know that so please get educated.

As for me voting for Obama its not only because McCain is old that was just an observation for people to think about. I have my reasons but refuse to get too into that seeing as how this is about the Foo Fighters and McCain not the election.

Well, I explained how it was legal. The FCC license I meantioned actually works within copyright laws, but you're obviously not interested in facts. It's how stadiums can play music for sporting events. What if the Foo Foos don't like the L.A. Dodgers, but the Dodgers play one of their songs during the 7th inning stretch? Too bad, the Dodgers paid the money for the license and have the right too. Educate yourself. I don't ramble on about something I'm not informed about. Apparently I don't speak for us all thgouh.

[sykguitaryst]

the bottom line is foo doesnt want them using their song. what if you were an artist and put out a song and you hate gays (no offense, just sayin) and they use it on a commercial for gay pride or somethin, wouldnt you be pissed? its a mean example but people still arent gettin the damn point. i wouldnt want anyone using my shit without my permission.. thats all im sayin..

[Mahoru]

Some of you can say whatever you want, but I'd bet my hand McCain hasn't paid anything for the rights of the songs. If he had, Van Halen, Heart and Foo Fighters wouldn't be pissed with him because they'd have given their permission.

People can play their songs whenever and wherever they want, as long as its for the music itself. When you use another people's songs for political reasons and without even asking their permission, it becomes illegal, because that's not what they were made for.

[arcanus trexor]

sykguitaryst wrote:

the bottom line is foo doesnt want them using their song. what if you were an artist and put out a song and you hate gays (no offense, just sayin) and they use it on a commercial for gay pride or somethin, wouldnt you be pissed? its a mean example but people still arent gettin the damn point. i wouldnt want anyone using my shit without my permission.. thats all im sayin..

...because you're selfish and vain and assume that you deserve to constantly be given credit for your ideas...

[arcanus trexor]

Mahoru wrote:

Some of you can say whatever you want, but I'd bet my hand McCain hasn't paid anything for the rights of the songs. If he had, Van Halen, Heart and Foo Fighters wouldn't be pissed with him because they'd have given their permission.

People can play their songs whenever and wherever they want, as long as its for the music itself. When you use another people's songs for political reasons and without even asking their permission, it becomes illegal, because that's not what they were made for.

and how do you determine when they are using it for a "political reason"? many foo fighters songs are ambiguous enough that it would make sense to apply them to "political" situations, music itself is political. and whether or not something is being used for a political purpose, is arbitrary as ****. this discussion is political, whether or not it is about who is a better candidate, or if mccain can use the foo fighters songs. the reason why people argue that mccain was using it for a political purpose is because mccain is a politician. it doesn't ****ing matter. mccain needed music for his campaign, it doesn't matter what song he used, anyone could find some excuse to complain. does that mean he shouldn't be allowed to use music simply because he's a politician. he's not in any way defiling some kind of absolute mystical power that the song has. the song is open to interpretation by anyone who listens to it. people need to think for themselves, and by saying that mccain shouldn't be allowed to use their song, the foo fighters are implying that they don't think people are capable of thinking for themselves. what if mccain had been alone listening to my hero? would the song be being used for a "political purpose"? is his own mind not one that he needs to convince just as much as the minds of others? what if he were just with his wife? even if he had no intention of portraying to her that he thought of himself as a hero, the fact that he in some way related to the song might show through, and impact her, and some kind of latent connection that he feels to the song would show through to her. what if two other people were in the room? what if three people were? better yet, what if mccain doesn't see himself as the hero in the song, what if he only values the hero, and sees the character in the song as someone that everyone should look up to? he would only be using the song positively. that being said, once again, i'm not voting for mccain.

[sykguitaryst]

arcanus trexor wrote:

sykguitaryst wrote:

the bottom line is foo doesnt want them using their song. what if you were an artist and put out a song and you hate gays (no offense, just sayin) and they use it on a commercial for gay pride or somethin, wouldnt you be pissed? its a mean example but people still arent gettin the damn point. i wouldnt want anyone using my shit without my permission.. thats all im sayin..

...because you're selfish and vain and assume that you deserve to constantly be given credit for your ideas...

so youre saying i shouldnt get credit for my own ideas? thats probably THE dumbest thing i ever heard, no.. this IS the dumbest thing i ever heard in my life. like i said, they shouldnt have used the song without permission. so yea IM the selfish one for taking my time creating art so some random person can just snatch it up without my permission.. and santa clause DOES exist.. :\

[Mahoru]

To arcanus trexor:

I think it's pretty obvious that a politician who claims to be a hero (when in fact he's done nothing special at all) and uses the song "My Hero" for his campaign, is doing it for political purposes.

And once again I say I'm not voting, I'm not even American. I just see that sure Obama isn't the perfect candidate, but he's proven to be more or less what USA seems to need. But the things McCain does and says day after day have made me realise that if he doesn't even respect art or other people, if he wins we're all screwed.

And as a musician too, I completely understand the Foos attitude, I'd have done like them. I wouldn't want anyone to use my music for any other purpose other than enjoying itself, without asking for my permission.

[arcanus trexor]

sykguitaryst wrote:

arcanus trexor wrote:

sykguitaryst wrote:

the bottom line is foo doesnt want them using their song. what if you were an artist and put out a song and you hate gays (no offense, just sayin) and they use it on a commercial for gay pride or somethin, wouldnt you be pissed? its a mean example but people still arent gettin the damn point. i wouldnt want anyone using my shit without my permission.. thats all im sayin..

...because you're selfish and vain and assume that you deserve to constantly be given credit for your ideas...

so youre saying i shouldnt get credit for my own ideas? thats probably THE dumbest thing i ever heard, no.. this IS the dumbest thing i ever heard in my life. like i said, they shouldnt have used the song without permission. so yea IM the selfish one for taking my time creating art so some random person can just snatch it up without my permission.. and santa clause DOES exist.. :\

that comment was meant to be taken with a grain of salt, i wasn't seriously saying i think you're selfish, obviously i'm intelligent enough to figure out that i don't know you. the point is that simply because you don't want your song to be used without your permission, doesn't mean that that counts as a logical reason for it not to be.

on another note, albert einstein said that "human beings in their thinking, feeling, and acting are not free, but are as causally bound as the stars in their motions". meaning people are merely the product of their environment, and their ideas are not their own. the foo fighters wouldn't have been able to invent "my hero" if it weren't for a pre-created system of music and language, and ideas that were experienced by dave grohl's consciousness, which he had no control over. in my humble opinion, ideas don't belong to you and can't be "owned", they belong to the singular consciousness of humanity.

[BlindS!ght]

at least Dave Isn't like madonna...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3vrmXRdOOs

And she only said that because palin doesn't share the same views as her. Imagine what she would say if McCain used one of her songs (not that he would, just saying).

[crazymnm]

LULZ MCAIN WAS A POW LULZ IMA VOTE FOR HIM

[JAgged edge]

I,M A MUSICAN,IF I EVER HAD A FAMOUS SONG MCCAIN OR ANY ONE WHO BELIVES IN PRO-LIFE AND THINKS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS COMPLETE CRAP!!AND BELIVES IN GOD CAN USE MY SONG.ESSPICALLY MCCAIN HE A WAR VET AND I RESPECT HIM FOR THAT BECAUSE I,M IN THE MARINE CORPS AND ANY ONE WHO BITCHES AND COMPLAINS HOW BAD THE U.S.A IS NEEDS A RELALITY CHECK.GET RIGHT WITH THE LORD THEN YOU,LL HAVE PEACE.

[thelonesoldier]

Apparently McCain's campaign actually paid all the proper licensing and stuff and didn't steal the song or violate any copyright... they just used blanket licensing which doesn't require the band's approval.

I don't support McCain, but I also am strongly against shitty misleading journalism. Whover wrote this article should be fired.

[D3athM4gnetic19]

JAgged edge wrote:

I,M A MUSICAN,IF I EVER HAD A FAMOUS SONG MCCAIN OR ANY ONE WHO BELIVES IN PRO-LIFE AND THINKS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS COMPLETE CRAP!!AND BELIVES IN GOD CAN USE MY SONG.ESSPICALLY MCCAIN HE A WAR VET AND I RESPECT HIM FOR THAT BECAUSE I,M IN THE MARINE CORPS AND ANY ONE WHO BITCHES AND COMPLAINS HOW BAD THE U.S.A IS NEEDS A RELALITY CHECK.GET RIGHT WITH THE LORD THEN YOU,LL HAVE PEACE.

I agree with that, I respect him as a war veteran, but he should not have done this. This hits below the belt for not just the band but all musicians worldwide IMO. I don't think he has much respect for more recent American lifestyle after having done this without band approval.

[SIEGE312]

I think Dave needs to chill out... I highly doubt that McCain sits around thinking of songs to play during his campaign, if Dave wants to go after somebody, take it up with his campaign manager Richard Davis, who would be one of the guys that takes care of things like that. I doubt that John McCain even listens to the Foo Fighters. So, before you go bashing what I've said here, just think for a second, does Senator John McCain really sit around thinking of how to piss off people in the music industry? Or does he have bigger things to worry about, perhaps winning the presidential election?

[mcshane90]

get over it.

[lpfan4ever]

H_ngm_n wrote:

Randy Bobandy wrote:

He's mad at McCain for useing his music, yet not mad at Obama for supporting terrorists, racist churches and welfare programs for deadbeats..

These musicians should just shut the **** up and stay out of politics.

No this is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard in my life. Final answer.

Wow....Has O'bama done anything to support terrorists? He wore a turban 1 time!seriously thats not even funny.....and it doesnt make any sense on topic anyway, and I think you shouldnt be complaining on the forums

[lpfan4ever]

thelonesoldier wrote:

Apparently McCain's campaign actually paid all the proper licensing and stuff and didn't steal the song or violate any copyright... they just used blanket licensing which doesn't require the band's approval.

I don't support McCain, but I also am strongly against shitty misleading journalism. Whover wrote this article should be fired.

they didnt say it was illegal or anything. they only said that the Foo Fighters werent happy about it lol

[lpfan4ever]

JesusLives wrote:

I hate my life... ima kill myself cuz i think i hav no worth in anything...

wow... dont go crazy